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12 Jun 2024 | Ep 42: Legacy Legal Ops v. Start-Up Legal Ops: Susan Packal, Head of Global Legal Ops at Atlassian | 00:34:04 | |
How does the nature of an organization change the design of its legal operations program? How can leaders of all types embrace innovations that legal ops professionals are bringing to legal ops departments? What are the most important things legal ops leaders need to know about the business? Susan Packal, Head of Global Legal Operations at Atlassian, learned the most important aspects of legal ops leadership serving in director and chief of staff positions at dynamic start-ups and legacy brands like Hilton, eBay, Uber, and Twilio, in addition to running her own legal ops consultancy. Along the way, she’s developed methods for building legal ops teams that leverage their proficiency to serve the needs of the core business. Hear from Susan as she sits down with Tyler at CLOC to discuss ways to establish a strong culture in your legal team, elevating the GC role, and recognizing the importance of tough feedback to help guide your career. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-42 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
06 Jul 2023 | Navigating the Legal-Security-Privacy Relationship: Celaena Powder's Experiences at Seismic | 01:00:00 | |
Legal, Security, and Privacy are cut from the same cloth — but it’s common to see friction between these teams. How can GCs and in-house leaders bridge this gap to form productive working relationships? Join us as we dive into the incredible journey of Celaena Powder, VP of Legal at Seismic, as she weighs in on forming unbeatable GC-CISO duos, supporting an enterprise sales motion at a company, nurturing meaningful relationships with Sales AEs to drive business impact, and more. We also discuss strategies for transforming the perception of Legal, building a high-performing legal team, and fostering a culture of growth and support. Tune in now to uncover a goldmine of actionable advice and a behind-the-scenes look into how Celaena leads Legal at Seismic. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-6 Topics: Introduction: 00:00 Finding inspiration for what you want to do in your career: 02:44 Accelerating professional growth when working in small teams: 11:13 Going in-house and becoming VP of Legal at Seismic: 14:08 Transforming the perception of Legal within the org: 18:28 Setting your legal team up for success: 22:30 Navigating enterprise sales as a legal team: 26:22 Leveraging privacy education to drive revenue generation: 32:54 Nurturing productive relationships between Legal and Sales AEs: 35:33 The intersection of the Legal and Security functions: 41:02 Bridging the gap between Legal, Security, and Privacy: 45:00 How the GC’s role will evolve with tech and AI evolution: 54:21 Advice for younger attorneys: 57:30 Connect with us: Celaena Powder - https://www.linkedin.com/in/celaenapowder/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
06 Sep 2023 | Becoming a True Business Partner as an In-House Lawyer | 00:38:23 | |
“Legal just doesn’t understand our priorities.” Legal is often viewed as a cost center and a blocker in fulfilling business needs, instead of a thought partner that can help push the business forward. This perception is a challenge most in-house counsel have to overcome when they join a company. How can you transform legal’s brand, get a seat at the table, and own it so you and your team can become business co-leaders? Join us for this bonus episode as we explore what it takes to become a true business partner as an in-house counsel, with insights from GCs and legal leaders at some of the biggest companies today. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-10 Introduction – 00:00 Megan Niedermeyer and Brenda Perez on becoming true business partners: 01:04 Doug Luftman on building trust and getting a seat at the table: 04:54 Adam Glick on customer-centricity and relationship building: 06:56 Celaena Powder on nurturing productive relationships between Legal and Sales AEs: 11:40 Celaena Powder on transforming the perception of Legal within the org: 14:55 Lydia Cheuk on building a brand for your team and for yourself: 20:14 David Lancelot on using data to build trust and credibility: 25:55 Akshay Verma on what companies and clients really want from lawyers: 31:31 David Lancelot on transforming legal operations to build scalable and strategic legal functions: 34:14 Connect with us: Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft Featured guests: Doug Luftman - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dougluftman Adam Glick - https://www.linkedin.com/in/adglick/ Akshay Verma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshay-verma-esq/ David Lancelot - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlancelot/ Celaena Powder - https://www.linkedin.com/in/celaenapowder/ Lydia Cheuk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiacheuk/ SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
03 Apr 2025 | Ep 92: Why I Left the Big Firm Life to Feed Dogs with Tim Hirsch, GC of Mars Science and Diagnostics | 00:55:40 | |
Can your pets inspire you and shape the direction of your career? How can practicing abroad open doors? And what personal and professional lessons can you draw from training for and completing an Ironman triathlon? Join Tim Hirsch, General Counsel at Mars Science and Diagnostics, as he talks about making transitions: from practicing law in the EU to practicing in the US; working in-house at huge companies like Mastercard to becoming Head of Legal at Collibra, a ten-person start-up; taking the leap to co-found his own business, DoggyChef; and leveraging that experience in pet care into his current role as GC at one of the biggest names in the industry. Listen as Tim discusses the different expectations on lawyers in the US versus Europe, how to have influence in a huge in-house legal team, what it takes to turn an idea into a company, operating a start-up while working full-time, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-92 Topics Connect with us: Tim Hirsch - https://www.linkedin.com/in/timothyhirsch/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
14 Jun 2023 | Mapping Your Career in Law: Akshay Verma's Blueprint for Success | 00:34:51 | |
What do companies and clients really want from lawyers? How can you align your career with your values while pursuing your ambitions? What makes a world-class legal operations team? In the fourth episode of The Abstract, we sit down with the brilliant Akshay Verma, Head of Legal Operations at Coinbase, as he tackles these burning questions and more. Drawing from his extensive two-decade journey, Akshay Verma shares a wealth of wisdom — from his early days practicing environmental law at law firms to leading in-house legal ops teams for companies at various stages and scales. You’ll get the chance to peek into Akshay’s Critical Lawyering Skills course at Santa Clara University School of Law, and listen as he dives deep into topics like charting your path after law school, navigating career transitions, and finding meaningful employment. He also offers advice to companies hiring early-career legal professionals on how to stay competitive and attract top talent. Topics: Introduction – 00:00 Navigating career transitions in law, pt.1 – 1:11 Going in-house and becoming a business counsel – 4:22 The evolution of the legal ops role – 9:02 Navigating career transitions in law, pt.2 – 10:26 Heading legal operations at Meta & Coinbase – 11:35 Leveraging job interviews to lay down the roadmap – 13:40 Akshay’s background in teaching at law school – 15:57 Critical lawyering skills that law school doesn’t teach – 18:05 Integrating your values into career decisions – 20:33 What companies and clients want from lawyers – 25:42 Attracting top legal talent amid changing priorities – 29:14 How legal and legal ops is changing – 31:31 Connect with us: Akshay Verma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/akshay-verma-esq/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com/ to learn more. | |||
19 Sep 2024 | Ep 57: Bridging the gap between Politicians & Corps. with Jules Polonetsky, CEO, Future of Privacy | 01:02:25 | |
Join Jules Polonetsky, CEO and Founder of the Future of Privacy Forum, as he shares lessons he learned from the front lines of ad tech starting in the early 1990s. Starting his career in politics as a New York assemblyman and working his way into consumer protection-focused public roles, he became one of the first chief privacy officers in the tech industry at companies like DoubleClick and AOL at a crucial moment in the history of online privacy. Now his think tank connects policymakers with corporations, and helps both sides answer tough questions about privacy and data. Join Jules Polonetsky, CEO and Founder of the Future of Privacy Forum, as he shares lessons he learned from the front lines of ad tech starting in the early 1990s. Starting his career in politics as a New York assemblyman and working his way into consumer protection-focused public roles, he became one of the first chief privacy officers in the tech industry at companies like DoubleClick and AOL at a crucial moment in the history of online privacy. Now his think tank connects policymakers with corporations and helps both sides answer tough questions about privacy and data. Listen as Jules discusses his uniquely-positioned understanding of privacy issues, the future of AI governance and the chief privacy officer role, advice to lawyers who want to move into the privacy space, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-57 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
09 Dec 2024 | Ep 71: Privacy, Facial Recognition, and Semi-Pro Football with DPO Paul Collier | 00:35:06 | |
What does a Data Protection Officer do? How is it different from your privacy counsel? And how might a DPO help your company with cutting-edge issues like regulations around facial recognition or biometrics? Join Paul Collier, data protection officer at The DPO Centre, as he shares how the skills he gained as a front-line police officer have helped him counsel clients on how to balance complex privacy regulations with business goals. Listen as Paul discusses how companies can use facial recognition technology while safeguarding privacy, how in-house legal departments can work best with DPOs, his side hustle as a part-time semi-professional football referee, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-71 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
25 May 2023 | Becoming a Customer-Centric GC: Adam Glick's Mindset | 00:47:33 | |
Join Adam Glick, a former litigator and Head of Legal at Intercom, as we discuss nonlinear career paths, hiring, building an authentic network, and evangelizing the value of a legal department to high-growth public and private tech companies. Adam has decades of in-house experience, is a profound legal executive, and provides practical advice on becoming customer-centric, so legal serves as an “enabler” for the business. | |||
16 Apr 2024 | Ep 33: Legal Issues in the Gene Editing Space: Lisa Taylor Ash, General Counsel at Shape Therapeutics | 00:46:31 | |
How do you leverage your legal career to launch your own consultancy? What are the winning tactics to be an effective in-house lawyer? Is it possible to merge your love of science with your passion for law? Lisa Taylor Ash, General Counsel at Shape Therapeutics, has the answer to all of your questions. After leading two different legal teams through major acquisitions, starting her own consulting firm, and returning to the GC role, Lisa created effectiveinhouse.com, a website that features legal tactics, samples, and interviews with top in-house counsels across a variety of industries. Hear Lisa as she explains how she was able to position her career at the forefront of cutting-edge biotech, offers practical advice for lawyers hoping to start a company, shares lessons she wishes were taught in law school, and more. Check out some of Lisa’s favorite posts from effectiveinhouse.com below: Minimize Legal Risk Interview with Brett Pletcher, Former GC of Gilead Interview with Brandon Etheridge, GC of the Baltimore Ravens Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
19 Jan 2024 | GCs in the Boardroom: Lisa Harrington, Board Director, Consultant, and CLO | 00:51:01 | |
Joining a board as a GC presents a unique set of challenges: how do you demonstrate value when many boards are looking for members with financial and strategy experience? How do you avoid becoming the de facto legal counsel? And how can you maximize your board experience to expand and strengthen your network and legal skill set? Lisa Harrington, board director, consultant, and CLO, can coach you through this complex process. Currently the board director at A-Rod’s Slam Corp and Iron Horse Acquisitions, Lisa has complimented her career as CLO and corporate secretary with a yearslong journey through public and private board rooms. Join Lisa as she offers her fellow GCs experience-proven advice on the best ways to find your first board seat, thrive on a committee as an expert advisor, and eventually make your way to a role on a coveted public board. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-22 Topics: Introduction: 1:28 Comparing and contrasting GC roles at public and private companies: 4:24 Finding opportunities on to take on board directorships or take on board seats: 8:48 Setting yourself up to get recruited for board membership: 15:01 Describing the ongoing obligations of a board member or director: 21:39 Factors to consider for GCs looking to join a board: 25:08 Non-legal-related advice for drafting your board agreement: 28:17 Making strong connections with operators: 31:53 Going through the IPO process with Iron Horse: 37:49 Participating on a board during an acquisition at Slam Corp: 41:37 Leaving a board role with grace: 44:45 Advice to younger self: 47:10 Connect with us: Lisa Harrington - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisahattonharrington/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
06 May 2024 | Ep 37: IPO, Acquisitions & Board Membership: Nithya Das, Chief Legal & Administrative Officer, Diligent | 00:38:09 | |
How can legal leaders thrive while navigating major M&A and capital market transactions? How do you expand the GC or CLO title and take on broader executive roles? And how do you leverage your experience into a board seat? Nithya Das, Chief Legal and Chief Administrative Officer at Diligent, has taken on each of these challenges and used the lessons she gained from them to advance her career exactly where she wants it to go. Formerly the chief legal and people officer of the so-called “AppNexus mafia” during the startup’s historic sale to AT&T, Nithya has led counsel, operations, and more in the ad tech, food tech, and reg tech spaces. She also brings her expertise to her seat on the board of directors at Outbrain. Hear Nithya as she shares tips about leading in-house counsel through IPO and acquisitions, serving on a board of directors, dealing with personal tragedy during career triumphs, the importance of transparency for establishing trust and loyalty with your team, and more. Diligent will be at CLOC global institute next month! Be sure to catch their speaking session 'Elevating Entity Management' on the 7th and stop by booth 104 to discuss the ways Diligent can help streamline and automate your entity management at scale. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-37 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
23 Dec 2024 | Ep 73: All Things Contracts with Laura Frederick, CEO of How to Contract | 00:57:23 | |
How do you avoid common mistakes in commercial contract negotiation? What about in drafting? And how can you get better at and find more joy in commercial contracting? Join Laura Frederick, Founder and CEO of How to Contract, as she goes deep on all things contracts—everything from how to avoid common mistakes to tips for supercharging your negotiating skills. Listen as Laura talks about her career in contracts working for top energy and renewable companies like Tesla and SolarCity, making the leap to start her own law firm and training business, establishing a yearly conference about all things contracts, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-73 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
26 Sep 2024 | Ep 58: How a lawyer built an AI company with Cecilia Ziniti, founder GC AI | 00:57:34 | |
How should General Counsel and legal teams be leveraging generative AI? How do you get started on your AI journey and what mistakes should you avoid? Where is the AI revolution heading? Join Cecilia Ziniti, Founder and CEO of GC AI, as she discusses how and why she made the leap from working as a corporate lawyer to creating a generative AI product specifically designed for in-house counsel. Find out how her years leading legal for AI-powered tech companies like Replit, Anki, and Cruise (and serving as lead counsel on Amazon’s Alexa) prepared her to create a company offering a groundbreaking product that serves the various needs of lawyers with precision and care. Listen as Cecilia discusses the similarities between lawyers and large language models, how to begin experimenting with generative AI with the goal of making both your professional and personal life smoother, why you can’t let others tell you you’re “just” a lawyer, and why legal professionals should always use emojis. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-58 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
24 Oct 2024 | Ep 62: From Serving in the Army to becoming a CEO with Ethena CEO Roxanne Petraeus | 00:39:32 | |
How can corporate leaders make compliance training entertaining enough that their employees will pay attention? How do you know if compliance training is effective? What has a founder in this space learned about building for and selling to HR and legal? Join Roxanne Petraeus, Co-Founder and CEO of Ethena, as she discusses how her company is changing compliance training by making it more personalised, effective, role-based, and specific to scenarios happening in her clients’ companies. Starting her career as an officer in the U.S. Army, she made the leap from consultant to founder and built a platform that saves time, engages distracted employees, and satisfies regulators. Listen as Roxanne discusses why content is as important as technology, how to measure the success of compliance training, the value of balancing quantitative data with qualitative feedback, and how her company is leveraging AI to better serve their clients, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-62 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
22 Aug 2023 | Going Beyond the GC Role: COO Genessa Stout on Organic Growth | 00:38:28 | |
“How do I expand my scope of work as a GC or in-house lawyer?” The in-house legal industry is increasingly seeing GCs step up to the role of COO, CFO, head of people functions, and more. In fact, expanding your role to cross-functional leadership positions has become an important part of growth for senior legal executives. In episode 9 of The Abstract, we talk to one such leader, who grew her career from a receptionist at a law firm to now the Chief Operating Officer & General Counsel at Tally — Genessa Stout. We discuss: — how she grew into this role organically and came to head functions like finance and HR, — her consumer-centric approach to lawyering, — how she builds trust and culture within the business and her team, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-9 Topics: Introduction: 00:00 From rural roots to plaintiff-side law at Hagens Berman to CFPB: 01:14 Early days at CFPB: 05:41 Transitioning from CFPB to in-house at PayPal: 08:30 From PayPal to a multidimensional leadership at Tally: 13:42 Fostering trust and heading people and operations functions at Tally: 16:45 Navigating non-legal leadership roles and learning curves in other functions: 19:14 Building culture as a GC and a COO: 23:30 Transitioning from GC to different business leadership roles: 27:07 Advice to young attorneys: 30:45 The evolving role of the GC: 33:04 A book recommendation and insight into what keeps Genessa motivated: 35:00 Connect with us: Genessa Stout - https://www.linkedin.com/in/genessastout Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
20 Feb 2025 | Ep 84: Why Lawyers Struggle with Communication with Briefly CEO Adam Stofsky | 01:04:07 | |
Is it possible to carve out a meaningful career in law by following your passions? What's harder: building a non-profit or a business? What do lawyers have to learn from animators? Join Adam Stofsky, CEO of Briefly and founder of the New Media Advocacy Project, as he shares how he used high-production documentary video to advocate for human rights across the globe and started a company to help lawyers better communicate with their clients. Listen as Adam discusses the challenges of non-litigation career paths, founding nonprofit and for-profit companies, the trauma of human rights work, working with creative professionals like animators and voice actors, the importance of bearing witness to human rights abuses, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-84 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
27 Oct 2023 | Leading Teams in High Growth, High Pressure Environments: Seth Weissman, Executive Coach | 00:55:03 | |
What does it take to build up your legal team? Is it possible to work effectively without a foundation of trust and vulnerability? What role does emotional intelligence take in nurturing careers? And how do you proceed in a role when you don’t know how to make the first big step? Seth Weissman is no stranger to navigating difficult business challenges without a roadmap. Now an executive coach, he previously led SolarCity to IPO and acquisition by Tesla as GC and Executive Vice President, and grew Marqeta’s legal team of four to fifty as Chief Legal Officer. Join Seth as he discusses why it pays to approach legal like a businessperson, the importance of mentors, and what it takes to make the switch from GC to executive coach. He also shares lessons from his time working at a mission-driven energy company with Elon Musk on the board. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-13 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Letting unconventional thinking guide your career: 2:27 Working in SolarCity’s mission-driven environment to commercialize solar energy: 7:20 Releasing IPO and selling to Tesla: 13:38 Working with Elon Musk at SolarCity: 18:06 Turning a legal team of 4 into a division of 50 at Marqeta: 22:10 Finding inspiration to become an executive coach: 31:12 Finding an executive coach and justifying the expense: 43:35 Final questions: 50:20 Connect with us: Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn Seth Weissman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethweissman/ Seth’s Blog Page: https://www.sethweissman.com/blog Seth’s Lessons from Racing School: https://www.sethweissman.com/blog/lessons SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
30 Apr 2024 | EP 36: From Paralegals to Legal Ops Leaders: Tommie Tavares-Ferreira, Cedar, and Tom Stephenson, Legal.io | 00:55:19 | |
How do you transition into a legal ops role? What are the new and exciting opportunities for legal professionals without a law degree? How will the legal operations community trailblaze a path for in-house counsels and law firms into the future of business? Tommie Tavares-Ferreira, Head of Legal Ops at Cedar and Tom Stephenson, Vice President of Community and Legal Ops at Legal.io, have an expert understanding of both the legal ops industry and the diverse channels that professionals can take to arrive in the field. Not only are they the hosts of the Dear Legal Ops podcast, but they have arrived via their own journeys from big law firm paralegals and HBO contract manager to running legal ops at major businesses like Credit Karma, Rakuten, and Peloton. Hear Tommie and Tom as they discuss the benefits for ambitious professionals to transition into a legal ops role, how to balance your business skill set with a strategic legal mindset, career paths beyond legal ops, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-36 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
24 Jul 2024 | Ep 48: How a Pilot turned into a CEO: Ben Klein, CEO at Aero | 00:40:59 | |
How do you build a legal and business career from a passion for aviation? What is the transition like from the GC role to that of CEO? And what is it like to run an airline? | |||
20 Jul 2023 | Brand Building for Legal Teams: With Lydia Cheuk, GC at Away | 00:34:16 | |
What’s your legal team’s brand? And by that, we mean, what does your team look like from the lens of the rest of the organization? Join Away’s GC Lydia Cheuk as she shares insights on marketing Legal within the organization, authentically building your personal brand, shaping legal as the first hire at early-stage companies across different industries, and more. We’ll also discuss Lydia’s experience in supporting the business through hypergrowth, a pandemic, and then through the recovery period, as well as offering stability and support during transitions. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-7 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Making the jump from law firm to in-house life: 3:11 Lydia’s journey at an entertainment studio start-up called First Look: 7:03 Hiring at the right time and building a strong team: 09:33 Moving from Media to the Direct-to-Consumer (DTC) sector: 11:56 Building relationships and trust with the executive team: 14:25 Empowering your team and improving motivation and retention: 16:49 Fostering a unified culture and goal within the legal team: 19:13 Driving visibility into legal’s impact and improving legal’s brand: 20:34 Building a brand for your team and for yourself: 24:19 Lessons from Away's hypergrowth phase and pandemic challenges: 28:24 Being on NYU Law’s venture fund jury: 31:37 Closing questions: 33:23 Connect with us: Lydia Cheuk - https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiacheuk/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
15 Aug 2024 | Ep 51: How Rachel Olchowka, balanced the role of GC & CPO @ Fetch | 00:52:52 | |
What do you need to know if you're considering taking on the people function? What's the difference between a chief people officer and a CHRO? And are GCs well-positioned to take on both of these roles simultaneously? Rachel Olchowka, Former Chief People Officer and General Counsel at Fetch and current Chief Administrative Officer at Prizm Insurance, had no hesitations when she volunteered to operate a complex, metrics-driven people function in addition to her responsibilities leading in-house legal at a fast-paced organization. Not only did she learn how to do both roles—she learned how to do them well. Listen as Rachel shares how she was able to find balance between two very different executive positions, know whether expanding into a people role is right for you, establish a game-changing comprehensive parental leave plan, craft culture within a company and executive team, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-51 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
15 Mar 2024 | Ep 27: Taking Businesses & Legal Teams Global: Sarah Binder, General Counsel, Lime | 00:45:36 | |
What is a general counsel’s role in international expansion? How do you balance growth with safety and compliance across diverse countries and markets? And how do you scale your legal team to take on challenges that require in-depth knowledge of local cultures, regulations, and business practices? | |||
04 Jun 2024 | Ep 41: Building Legal Ops at Google: DeAnna Papedis, Head of Legal Contracts & Operations, Google | 00:22:00 | |
How has the legal ops profession evolved over the years? What was it like to be there at the birth of legal ops? And how can you break into the field now? | |||
20 May 2024 | Ep 39: Legal Process Orchestration: Sagi Eliyahu, CEO & Co-founder, Tonkean (w/ cohost Akshay Verma) | 01:04:05 | |
What is the role of tech in making legal and business teams work better together? How can process orchestration improve your intake process and seamlessly connect silos in your organization? And what is it like to build a tech company that serves legal professionals? | |||
03 Oct 2024 | Ep 59: From Lawyer to Angel Investor, Advisor & Dealmaker with Sunjay Mathews | 01:01:40 | |
How do you turn your passion for sports into a career? What does it take to advise pro athletes and celebrities on investments and deals? And how can you start to angel invest yourself? Sunjay Mathews, investor, advisor, and dealmaker in the sports and media sector, was able to make the leap from in-house counsel at FanDuel and DAZN, the biggest names in sports betting and streaming, into a legal and business consulting powerhouse. With his deep understanding of the complex (and often outdated) regulations surrounding sports betting, he began leading at the intersection of crypto and athletics, advising on sports partnerships with FTX and investing in blockchain-reliant companies like BetDex, and joining the board of tixbase. Listen as Sunjay shares lessons from his career at the cutting edge of burgeoning industries, dealmaking with pro athletes, getting started as an angel investor, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-59 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
09 Apr 2024 | Ep 31: Peak Legal Efficiency: Siddharth Manchanda, IndusLaw Partner & Unacademy External GC | 01:02:34 | |
What challenges face the legal team at India’s largest learning platform as they expand beyond online classrooms? How do you execute one thousand new contracts a month, and still find time to problem solve and aid core function? Siddharth Manchanda, Partner at IndusLaw and External GC at Unacademy, has embraced tech and AI in order to free his team from the repetitive manual tasks borne from his company’s fast and massive growth. He’s found that increased efficiency is more than enough to shift the mindsets of traditional lawyers and business teams alike about the power and possibility of tech solutions. Hear Siddharth as he discusses the legal perspective on India’s massive economic growth, dividing his time between an in-house and client services role, the future of legal tech, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-31 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
26 Jun 2024 | Ep 44: How an Opera Singer Became a Legal Ops Pro: Cory Clines, Legal Operations Consultant | 00:51:14 | |
How can training to be a professional opera singer translate into the legal operations profession? How do you build a career in legal ops without any formal training? And what role should technology play–if any–in a strong legal ops program? Cory Clines, Legal Operations Manager at Campari Group, was able to transfer valuable lessons from his life as a conservatory-trained opera singer into his fifteen-year-long career in legal ops, like the importance of collaboration and the need for a shared vision among teams. In his current role and at former companies like Advance Publications and Lloyd’s, Cory was able to leverage his love of technology into managerial roles that revolutionized legal processes with efficiency-maximizing software. Listen as Cory discusses how to develop strong relationships with tech vendors, building legal ops teams from scratch, earning the trust of your GC, the best ways to run an RFP, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-44 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
26 Nov 2024 | Ep 69: Leading Teams Across Borders with Manuel Martinez-Herrera, BetterCloud GM | 00:40:15 | |
What does a general manager role involve? How do you establish your company's first international office? And what skills from lawyering can you draw on to do it well? Join Manuel Martinez-Herrera, General Manager and General Counsel at BetterCloud, as he shares his journey from law school in Spain to offices in Argentina and the U.S., to earning an LL.M at Harvard, jumping from big law to in-house counsel, moving beyond the GC role, and opening his company’s first office in Mexico City. Listen as Manuel offers tips for lawyers who want to move into business roles, why it’s important to explore new and different opportunities, the traits that lawyers and software engineers share in common, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-69 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
04 May 2023 | Unlocking Success in In-House Legal Roles: Lessons from Doug Luftman, ex-DGC @DocuSign | 00:44:23 | |
If you’re an in-house attorney, how do you set yourself up for learning and growth throughout a long career? How should you define success? Is it being named the General Counsel of a high-growth company? Or are there other paths for an interesting and inspiring career? Join former DocuSign Deputy General Counsel Doug Luftman for an in-depth conversation around mentorship, management, and fulfillment at work. We talk through how Doug positioned himself to take on executive-level leadership roles, including as General Counsel of two different tech companies. We’ll also explore how he learned to thrive in high-pressure, cross-functional environments where constant learning and growth were required. And, in what can be a challenging job hunting environment, he’ll share tips for managing unexpected career transitions and emerging stronger on the other side. | |||
05 Dec 2024 | Ep 70: Why GCs need to care about ESG with Christine Uri, Founder ESG for In-house Counsel | 00:42:10 | |
If you're in the C-Suite, what do you really need to know about ESG? Is ESG the new privacy? And should ESG really be so controversial? Join Christine Uri, founder of ESG for In-house Counsel, as she explains the importance of ESG (Environmental, Social, and Governance) to both public and private companies in today’s global regulatory climate. Listen as Christine draws on more than a decade offering sustainability solutions to her corporate clients to explain how GCs can advocate for ESG to fellow executives, why ESG is great for the bottom line, and why, as she puts it, “ESG is the new privacy.” Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-70 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
28 Feb 2024 | Finding Empowerment in Disability: Raj Mahapatra, Senior Counsel at Wilson Sonsini | 00:56:04 | |
How do you turn one of the most difficult moments in your life into the motivation that guides you to make the world a better place? When Raj Mahapatra received his axial spondyloarthritis diagnosis, he was told he would spend his life in a wheelchair. Decades later, he is an accomplished long-distance runner, seasoned general counsel, tech start-up business operator, mission-driven climate advocate, and chairman of the charity that makes life better for people suffering from his condition worldwide. Listen as Raj recounts his journey to leadership, explains the importance of advocating for your personal needs, and shares why it is so important for GCs to never stop asking “why?” Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-26 Topics: Introduction: 1:20 Receiving a life-changing diagnosis in your twenties: 2:45 Changing your perspective on work by living with a disability: 6:27 Incorporating charity into your running practice: 13:17 Going beyond legal roles and into operator positions: 20:41 Fundraising as General Counsel and Head of Intellectual Property at Cervest Limited: 24:45 Reflecting on the experience of building and losing a business as a lawyer: 32:13 Resetting after a difficult work experience: 35:58 Joining Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati as Senior Counsel: 42:19 Building a meaningful life: 51:28 Connect with us: Raj Mahapatra - https://www.linkedin.com/in/rajmahapatra/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
31 Jan 2025 | Ep 81: What Every GC Should Know About Working With Founders with Sarah Irwin | 00:42:01 | |
How do you advise founders and learn to speak their language? Build a thriving legal community in Europe? And navigate the ups and downs of starting your own business? Join Sarah Irwin, CEO and Founder of Irish Tech GC, as she discusses her career as a consultant for tech founders, adviser for GCs looking to build better relationships with their fellow executives, angel investor, and global legal influencer. Listen as Sarah shares how she founded the Irish Tech GC community, why she decided it was time to leave her GC role behind and go all-in on her own company, how she leveraged LinkedIn to create enormous reach, and offers tips to GCs on how they can position themselves as business leaders. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-81 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
31 Oct 2024 | Ep 64: How to build and scale legal teams? | 00:26:15 | |
As top legal leaders across a variety of industries, our podcast guests are no strangers to building teams from scratch and scaling them to adapt to the needs of a rapidly expanding business. | |||
14 Jan 2025 | Ep 77: Thriving Through Change: Insights from Ron Bell, Collective Health CLO and Former Yahoo! GC | 01:01:07 | |
How do you help one of Silicon Valley's most iconic companies, Yahoo!, navigate years of change, stay engaged over almost two decades there, and make the move to health tech when you're ready for something new? Join Ron Bell, Chief Legal and Administrative Officer at Collective Health, as he shares his journey from Chicago litigator and software programming hobbyist to in-house lawyer at some of the hottest tech companies in the world during the dotcom renaissance. Listen as Ron offers his insights on how to navigate the constant and radical changes he’s seen in the tech industry over three decades, the importance of creating spaces of trust and transparency, establishing legal operations in legacy businesses, and why people are so afraid of lawyers. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-77 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
03 Jan 2025 | Ep 75: Must-Read Books for Legal Professionals in 2025 | Bonus Episode | 00:18:21 | |
What are the top books that every legal leader needs to read to succeed in the new year? | |||
27 Mar 2025 | Ep 91: Why Legal Work Will Never Be the Same with SpotDraft's Shashank Bijapur and Akshay Verma | 00:44:08 | |
Why is technology the right leverage point for improving how a legal team works together? What did it take to start and sustainably grow SpotDraft? And how do you transition from a more traditional legal career to one leading a legal tech business? Join Shashank Bijapur, SpotDraft’s Co-Founder & CEO and Akshay Verma, SpotDraft’s COO as they sit down with Tyler Finn at the SpotDraft Summit 2025 and break down their journeys from lawyers to tech executives and legal innovators. Listen as Shashank and Akshay discuss the origins of Spotdraft, offer their expert predictions on the future of legal work and AI, explain why legal operations professionals should aim for COO roles, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-91 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management needs. | |||
28 May 2024 | Ep 40: Leveraging Social Media to Build a Legal Brand: Matt Margolis, Partner, Margolis PLLC | 00:31:06 | |
Can you leverage a joke-filled social media brand to build your own business? How will the practice of law evolve in the age of AI? Is the billable hour going away? Matt Margolis, Partner at Margolis PLLC, went from a single funny and relatable LinkedIn post about frustrations at work to growing a massive brand as @ItsMattsLaw across platforms like TikTok, X, and Instagram. Beyond expanding his network, it aided him as he made the leap from in-house to partner at his own law firm, Margolis PLLC. Hear Matt discuss how he balances social content creation with legal work, starting his own law firm, serving as legal advisor to multiple companies, and how he thinks AI is shaping the future of legal work. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-40 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
17 Jul 2024 | Ep 47: Steering Companies Through Crisis: Chelsea Grayson, Managing Partner at Pivot | 01:00:23 | |
How do you build trust with investors who tap you for the CEO role? How do you prepare yourself to lead companies through some of their toughest moments, including bankruptcy, and guide other companies through their transformations as a board member? Chelsea Grayson, managing partner of corporate restructuring at Pivot > and former CEO and board member of brands like American Apparel, True Religion, and Spark Networks, has steered many ships through rough waters, including post-chapter 11 turnarounds, corporate wind-downs, and firing CEOs for cause. She has transitioned from board member to operator and back again, and is currently sharing her expertise on the boards of Xponential Fitness and Beyond Meat. Listen as Chelsea discusses her legendary journey from law firm partner to GC, CEO, Board Member, and now managing partner of an all-star corporate restructuring company, and offers tips to lawyers who are looking to find a board seat. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-46 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
10 Apr 2025 | Ep 93: Legal's Crisis Stories: SVB, Uber & More | 00:27:22 | |
How do you navigate a crisis? Data breaches, bank collapses, CEO transitions, and global recessions are just a few of the hazards that can challenge general counsels and other executives and threaten the future of their businesses. | |||
08 Dec 2023 | Defining Ethical Use & Dealing with Law Enforcement: Mark Kahn, Partner and Head of Consumer at Protégé Search | 00:47:22 | |
How does legal determine what is acceptable user behavior? How do lawyers weigh the needs of users and concerns from law enforcement to arrive at the best guidelines for responsibly protecting our data? Join Protégé Search Partner and Head of Consumer Mark Kahn as he shares his experiences on the front lines of privacy protection in his roles as VP of Ethical Use at Twilio and Deputy General Counsel at Whatsapp. In a time of major international crises, how do tech companies navigate the difficult questions about ethics, acceptable use, and fairness? We’ll hear about his journey from the Oakland A’s, to the legal teams of tech’s biggest players, to his newest career guiding others on their professional career paths as an executive recruiter. We’ll also get some tips about recognizing when you’re in the right role, how to make a leap to the executive suite, and when to step back from a stressful position. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-18 Topics: Introduction: 00:05 Starting your career in product with your dream organization: 1:22 Working your way up the corporate food chain to Whatsapp: 6:22 How Whatsapp differed from his expectations: 12:39 Knowing when to step back from a stressful role and leave: 18:27 Taking time off and negotiating a role at Segment: 24:13 Working with an executive coach: 29:13 The Segment/Twilio acquisition and carving out a new role for “VP of Ethical Use:” 30:13 Stepping away from law into exec recruiter role: 38:15 Demystifying the job seeking experience: 40:29 “Designing Your Life” and advice to his younger self: 43:23 Connect with us: Mark Kahn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markkahn2/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
03 Nov 2023 | Being a Business-Minded Lawyer: Kathy Zhu, Co-founder, CEO & GC @Streamline AI | 00:34:35 | |
Scuba diving and entrepreneurship have a lot more in common than you may think. From staying calm in high-pressure situations to overcoming challenges and facing your fears head on, it is no coincidence that Kathy Zhu, Co-founder and CEO of Streamline AI, finds solace in both the deep waters of the ocean and the unpredictable start-up world. Join Kathy and SpotDraft’s Tyler Finn as they dive into the pivotal moments that led her to take a leap of faith and co-found Streamline AI, and how her upbringing fueled her drive to overcome and adapt to changing circumstances. They talk about Kathy’s transition from AGC at DoorDash to CEO and co-founder of Streamline AI, how she identified the right co-founder, lessons learned throughout her career, how her passion for scuba diving influences her leadership philosophy, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-14 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Becoming an in-house counsel: 1:30 Persevering during life pivots: 3:45 Taking a leap of faith and building a start-up: 5:24 Identifying the right co-founder: 8:05 Transitioning to CEO of Streamline AI: 10:16 Learning about leadership from scuba diving: 18:01 Leveraging law experience in product development: 22:53 Advice for legal tech buyers on where to start: 26:55 Embracing new technology in law: 30:14 Breaking the mindset of resisting change: 33:49 Resources mentioned in the episode: Legal Intake and Workflow Software Buyer’s Guide: https://hubs.li/Q027tCb00 Connect with us: Kathy Zhu - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathymzhu88/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft Streamline AI - https://www.streamline.ai/ SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
12 Sep 2024 | Ep 55: Why Upwardli CEO Aaron Gregory Took the Leap from GC to Founder | 00:55:23 | |
How do you make the leap from lawyer to founder? How do you craft the perfect pitch? What does it take to fundraise effectively? And how far will your legal know-how take you when you’re accountable for every function in the business? Join Aaron Gregory, Co-founder and CEO of Upwardli, as he shares his journey from general counsel to start-up leader. Starting his career in the highly regulated telecom and fintech industries, Aaron relied on lessons he learned while earning his JD-MBA to start a company that solves the challenges of credit invisibility for more than 50 million people in the United States. Listen as Aaron discusses how he took on the challenges that all first-time founders face–like pitching to VCs, fundraising, and growing into the CEO role—and shifted his mindset from that of a risk-conscious legal leader to a business-focused operator. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-55 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
09 Jan 2025 | Ep 76: Lawtrades Co-Founders on Creating a Gig Economy for Lawyers | 00:57:10 | |
How are marketplaces for legal work transforming the way that we work and the way that we live, creating opportunities for a better match between what you need from work and the work that you do? Join Lawtrades co-founders Raad Ahmed and Ashish Walia, as they discuss their path from dissatisfied law school graduates to running a powerhouse legal services startup that links white collar freelancers to legal departments, with $9.7 million in venture backing and $12 million in annual recurring revenue. Listen as Raad and Ashish talk about taking the leap to start a company, making difficult business pivots, working with leading startup accelerators, bringing the management suite into the gig economy, democratizing opportunities for entrepreneurial lawyers, building strong relationships with clients and investors, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-76 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
25 Feb 2025 | Ep 85: From Coding to the C-Suite with Ryan Nier, GC Nova Credit | 01:00:36 | |
What if you never really wanted or expected to become a lawyer? How do you navigate imposter syndrome? And where do you find meaning in your work? Join Ryan Nier, General Counsel, Chief Compliance Officer, and Head of People at Nova Credit, as he shares his career path from being a self-taught computer programmer who founded his own start-up to a decade as a litigation associate at a global law firm, eventually landing as a general counsel at companies with a positive impact on the world. Listen as Ryan discusses his struggles with imposter syndrome, feeling like the only person in the room with a unique background, hiring great people for roles you’ve never done before, and his side project of creating a documentary podcast about the time he and his brother dug up some (literal) buried gold. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-85 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
27 Feb 2025 | Ep 86: Why In-House Lawyers Need Each Other with Shai Mehani, CEO In-House Connect | 01:03:05 | |
Why build a big tent community of in-house lawyers without restrictions on who can join? How do you manage the transition from in-house lawyer to founder? And can you keep space for your religious faith during the process? Join Shai Mehani, co-founder and CEO of In-House Connect, as he shares why he left his career as a corporate counsel behind to lead a thriving community of more than fifty thousand in-house lawyers that offers connection, education, professional advancement and more. Listen as Shai discusses his journey from matrimonial law to corporate counsel, transforming a regular meetup for lawyers into an extraordinary organization, finding unexpected benefits in fractional work, the best way to quit a job, and the importance of prioritizing personal faith and family over your career. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-86 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
11 Mar 2025 | Ep 88: From Prosecutor to Security Leader – Joe Sullivan (ex-CSO: Uber, Facebook, Cloudflare) | 00:54:05 | |
How do you make the transition from federal prosecutor to security leader? Help secure some of the world's largest technology companies? And build yourself back up after being convicted by a federal jury for your company's handling of a data breach? Join Joe Sullivan, CEO of Joe Sullivan Security and the non-profit Ukraine Friends, as he reflects on the trial and sentencing he endured for a data breach at Uber to interpret the manifold challenges the chief security officers face each day. Listen as Joe shares his journey from the first full-time cyber federal prosecutor in the country to legal and security leader at eBay, Paypal, Facebook, Uber, and Cloudflare, why lawyers need to work closely with security teams, the relationship between security and privacy, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-88 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
29 Aug 2024 | Ep 53: What it takes to lobby for Apple, Google & Intel with Matt Tanielian | 00:44:50 | |
What do you need to know if you're ready to launch a government affairs strategy? How do you find the right lobbyist? And how has lobbying for tech companies changed over the last decade? Join Matt Tanielian, Co-founder of Franklin Square Group, a bipartisan government relations, as he shares key insights from his decades of experience advocating for tech companies and bridging the gap between Silicon Valley and Washington. D.C. From advising senators on foundation internet legislation like the Digital Millennium Copyright Act and the Microsoft antitrust investigation, to lobbying for Apple as it launched its first iPhone in 2008, Matt has been instrumental to tech firms as they navigate the intricacies of Capitol Hill. Listen as Matt discusses how to work with politicians and government relations consultants, the value of joining coalitions and trade associations, the future of AI policy, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-53 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
05 Sep 2024 | Ep 54: Lyft's Kristin Sverchek on Expanding Beyond Legal into Corporate Leadership | 00:48:45 | |
How can C-suite leaders take on challenging political issues that affect their company? How do you pursue a path of professional growth at a company over the course of a decade? What's required for taking on wide-ranging responsibilities at the executive level? Join Kristin Sverchek, President of Lyft, as she discusses how she joined a small start-up as their first general counsel and grew with it as it transformed into a global ride-sharing powerhouse with a multi-billion dollar IPO. Listen as she discusses the unexpected management challenges she faced and conquered internally as her role expanded beyond legal, as well as the external challenges of taking strong stances to protect her drivers in the face of adverse political climates. She also offers advice for lawyers looking to expand beyond the legal function and shares stories about innovating in industries where regulations haven’t been updated in over a century. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-54 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
10 Jul 2024 | Ep 46: What You Wish You Had Known at the Start of Your Career | Bonus Episode | 00:11:01 | |
Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-46 | |||
21 Nov 2024 | Ep 68: From Litigator to Spin Instructor to Chief Legal Officer with Jasmine Singh | 00:49:39 | |
Have you ever considered quitting your job outright because you felt like you were being pulled farther and farther away from your calling? And then finding your way back through a career change that's very different? Join Jasmine Singh, former Chief Legal and People Officer at Binti, as she shares lessons she learned after taking time away from the legal profession about how to recalibrate your career to align with your principles and passions, and how a year instructing a spin class landed her the in-house role that led her all the way to the executive suite. Listen as Jasmine discusses knowing when it’s the right time to quit, how to rely on your network and give back back to your community, realigning your career to match your values, getting your foot in the door as in-house counsel, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-67 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
31 Jan 2024 | Expanding Beyond the GC Role | Bonus Episode | 00:22:47 | |
Interested in expanding beyond the traditional role of General Counsel? SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
09 Jan 2024 | From FBI Dreams to Big Tech Legal: Alice Bisgrove, VP & Associate General Counsel, Procore | 00:35:40 | |
After an unexpected detour from her initial plans to join the FBI, Alice Bisgrove built a career in tech law working for tech giants like Cisco and Procore. In this episode, she discusses how she remained a legal generalist for over a decade at Cisco, taking on new roles and building relationships across the massive organization. Alice describes her transition to Procore as it grew from an established startup to a public company. From her impactful career journey, we will learn lessons on collaboration, problem-solving perspectives, and continually adapting to new opportunities. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-21 Topics:01:07 Introduction 04:36 Moving into the tech field 09:57 Sensing when an applicant is hungry to work 11:01 Staying curious as a corporate generalist at Cisco 15:03 Driving alignment after identifying a major problem 20:24 Building trust with stakeholders in your business 21:42 Finding ways to maintain customer centricity 25:46 Transitioning to Procore Technologies 27:38 Working cross-functionally 30:08 Management role and building a team 32:11 Book recommendations 33:54 Advice to younger self Connect with us: Alice Bisgrove - https://www.linkedin.com/in/alicebisgrove Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
21 Jan 2025 | Ep 78: Blueprint for the Ultimate Legal Ops Team with Steph Corey, CEO UpLevel Ops & Co-Founder LINK | 00:53:30 | |
How can general counsels and legal operations leaders work better together? How do you cultivate a high-performance culture across your legal team? And what makes for a thriving community of legal ops professionals? Join Steph Corey, CEO and Co-founder of UpLevel Ops and Link, the Legal Innovators Network, as she unpacks her career leading legal operations, starting at HP in the 90s, leading operations at Flex and VMware, co-founding the game-changing CLOC and Link conferences, and launching her own consultancy. Listen as Steph discusses how she built community in an isolating legal role, whether or not you need a law degree to work in legal ops, how to hire the best talent for your team, and merging with The L Suite to bring general counsels into the legal operations conversation. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-78 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
10 Oct 2024 | Ep 60: Sharing Legal Secrets Onstage with Playwright and ex-Etsy and Vroom GC Sarah Feingold | 00:34:27 | |
Where's the intersection in a career as a creative and as a lawyer? What stories would you tell if you were writing a play about your career in startup law? How do you go and convince some accomplished actors to sign up and perform it off-broadway? | |||
22 Dec 2023 | Championing Inclusion, Ethics & Compliance: Junna Ro, Head of Strategic Legal Initiatives, UC Office of the President | 00:51:31 | |
When you disagree with your boss, should you let it go or take a stand? How do you lean into your integrity and vocalize your beliefs, especially when you aren’t aware of the strength of your own voice? And how do you advise your company to do the right thing, as well? Junna Ro, the head of strategic legal initiatives for UC Legal at the UC Office of the President, has spent decades inhabiting leadership positions in the insurance and tech industry, both as the former general counsel at Metromile and the chief ethics & compliance officer at CSAA. But entering the world of legal without the connections and role models of her law school peers, she also knows what it’s like to be an outsider. Join Junna as she shares her passion for diversity, inclusion, ethics, and representation, as well her journey to discovering the power of speaking out and standing up for your convictions. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-20 Topics: Introduction: 1:09 Taking a break from legal work and reflecting: 2:22 Book recommendations: 9:23 Sharing the cultural context of your upbringing: 12:11 Existing as both a legal outsider and a legal insider: 15:16 Finding the courage to speak up in high-pressure moments: 17:34 Defining the difference between ethics and compliance in legal: 23:16 Moving into a General Counsel position at Metromile: 26:49 Taking a stand against Asian hate: 33:55 Advising executive teams on taking a stand on social issues: 39:23 Offering advice to leaders about tackling difficult topics: 44:16 Reflecting on failures: 44:56 Advice for young lawyers: 46:56 Connect with us: Junna Ro: https://www.linkedin.com/in/junnaro/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
29 Mar 2024 | EP 29: What's Next for Legal Ops: Jenn McCarron, President of CLOC | 00:52:11 | |
What can a strong community offer a legal ops professional working alone within their organization? How do you deal with the stress of a chaotic project management role while fostering change? Will legal ops eventually shift away from legal and into the business and tech sphere? | |||
26 Mar 2024 | Ep 28: From Law Partner to Top Recruiter: Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa | 00:34:38 | |
How do executive recruiters take legal careers to the next level? What do you need to handle the transition from big-name law firm partner to a role helping people build careers of their own? How can you distinguish a good interview from a bad interview? Richard Hsu, Managing Director at Major, Lindsey & Africa and host of the Hsu Untied podcast, has expert advice to share about how to ace the job interview for executive legal roles and the podcast interview with influential thinkers like Mark Cuban and Tony Robbins. Going deep on legal and podcasting, Richard shares essential tips on how to project confidence and say the right things when you’re face to face with a hiring manager (or celebrity) who can take your career to the next level. | |||
15 Dec 2023 | Taking the Helm as an Interim Executive: Vanessa Gage, General Counsel, Cedar | 00:34:02 | |
What does it mean for a lawyer to take on an interim role? Yes, there will be more work and your time will be divided across functions. But you will also get the opportunity to reevaluate why things are the way they are, and make positive improvements for your legal team. Join Cedar General Counsel Vanessa Gage as she shares advice on how to make the most of an interim executive roles. Vanessa stepped into the role of interim CFO at Cedar following a surprise executive departure—just weeks after she the started at the company. But it wasn’t her first time taking on an interim position. Find out how she was able to tackle the challenges—and rewards—that lay ahead. This episode, recorded before Cedar filled their CFO role, offers a glimpse into Vanessa’s perspective as she temporarily extends beyond her purview as general counsel. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-19 Topics: Introduction: 00:48 Moving from Deputy General Counsel to Interim GC at Opendoor: 3:03 Advice for lawyers stepping into interim positions: 5:49 Catapulting into a GC role at Cedar and taking on the responsibility of Interim CFO: 11:07 Advice for GCs who find themselves taking on additional interim roles: 17:17 Pushing the business forward without tying your successor’s hands: 21:40 Preparing to step back from your interim role: 27:12 What you are proud of and book recommendations: 31:25 Connect with us: Vanessa Gage: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vgage/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
28 Jan 2025 | Ep 80: Insights on Privacy with Ron De Jesus, the Industry's First Field Chief Privacy Officer | 00:45:01 | |
How do you become a leader in the privacy space? Use video and content to make privacy and the profession more accessible? And define a whole new type of privacy role? Join Ron De Jesus, Field Chief Privacy Officer at Transcend, as he shares what it’s like to be the first in the compliance industry to take on his innovative new role leading dialogues and creating spaces for discussion about the future of privacy. Pulling from his experience leading privacy at dating app companies like Grindr and Tinder and fashion houses like Tapestry and Coach, Ron leads with his extensive domain knowledge and first-hand understanding of privacy-related issues. Listen as Ron discusses how he conducts interviews with privacy regulators, politicians, and activists in his video series “Field Notes,” the future of the CPO role in the age of AI, managing corporate reputations after privacy complaints, how to break into privacy without a law degree, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-80 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
19 Jun 2024 | Ep 43: Why Foreign-Trained Lawyers are Essential: Flavia Naves, Of Counsel, Hathaway & Kunz, LLP | 00:34:31 | |
If you're a foreign-trained lawyer who wants to move to the U.S., how do you find a job? Why should companies look to foreign-trained lawyers in an increasingly globalized world? And how should you navigate moments of big career transitions? Flavia Naves, former general counsel at Circle, relocated to the United States after studying law in her native country of Brazil, and went on to become an authority on law and regulation related to crypto, fintech, digital payments, and much more. In addition to her long lost of leading legal roles, she is also a board member, of counsel at Kunz and Hathaway, and commissioner of the State of Wyoming’s Stable Token Commission. Listen as Flavia shares the challenges she faced as a foreign-trained lawyer, why she advocates for mentorship and specialized training, what it’s like facing unexpected career transitions, and how she came to realize that her biggest differences are her biggest strengths. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-43 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
23 Apr 2024 | Ep 35: Growing Your Personal Brand and Legal Network on LinkedIn: Brittany Leonard, GC at Civix | 00:34:49 | |
How do you build a personal brand on LinkedIn that strengthens your ties to the legal community, grows your network, and even helps other lawyers? And how do you convert that brand into a successful and rewarding consulting business with an impressive client base? Brittany Leonard, General Counsel at Civix, started her journey to LinkedIn legal community influencer at the beginning of the pandemic, and went from a single post with minor engagement to an in-house advice powerhouse with more than 26,000 followers. Now she runs a successful consulting business where she trains GCs and businesses to understand the power of a personal brand to get new clients and grow revenue. Hear Brittany as she shares tips for growing your own presence on LinkedIn, starting a consulting business, breaking out of the networking-event malaise, dealing with abusive workplaces, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-35 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
05 Oct 2023 | Navigating Ownership Transitions From PE to Public Holdings: Brian Chase, GC, ServiceChannel | 00:41:02 | |
Mergers and acquisitions, private equity buyouts, and transformative deals are part of business. But what's it like for the lawyers making them happen? Get an insider look at high-stakes corporate transformations from Brian Chase, GC of ServiceChannel. Brian shares a candid glimpse into the complexities behind major corporate moves as he delves into his experiences navigating company changes under different owners, handling new responsibilities, and adapting to shifting corporate structures along the way. We also discuss: — what it means to be “more than just legal” as a general counsel, — what it’s like to work at an early-stage company and set the foundation for the legal team, — how to overcome budget constraints and train your team members to fill the gaps in your team, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-12 Topics: Introduction: 00:00 Navigating transitions in ownership structures and responsibilities: 01:13 Lack of communication leading to frustration regarding desired roles and responsibilities: 07:30 Being the GC of a subsidiary in a public holdings company: 10:03 Building internal credibility and expanding beyond legal: 12:14 Identifying your strengths and weaknesses, and communicating them: 15:39 Brian’s experience as employee #31 at Foursquare: 20:03 The importance of networking in growing your career and opening up to opportunities: 26:00 Training people up to fill gaps in your team and overcome budget constraints: 30:41 The evolution of the structure of in-house legal teams: 33:36 Concluding questions around failures and learnings: 37:09 Resources mentioned in the episode: Take the StandOut Assessment: https://www.tmbc.com/standout-assessment/ Register for the SpotDraft Summit 2023: https://www.spotdraft.com/spotdraft-summit-2023-newyork Connect with us: Brian Chase - https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-r-chase/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
02 Jul 2024 | Ep 45: What Executive Recruiters Need from GCs: Joelle Khoury, Consultant at Egon Zehnder | 00:37:58 | |
What does a former GC-turned-executive recruiter wish she'd known about creating a personal brand, working with search firms, and negotiating the offer? How do executive recruiters help take careers where they need to go—not just to the next level? And when is the right time to start building a meaningful relationship with executive recruiters? Joelle Khoury, consultant at Egon Zehnder, built a towering career as an in-house counsel at private equity giants like Saban Capital Group and Fifth Wall and at law firms including Cooley LLP and Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher LLP. But when the time came to make a change, she pivoted from leading to legal to helping other lawyers find the career paths that best suit their interests. Listen as Joelle shares insider tips on how to reach out to executive recruiters, navigate the interview and offer processes, the wrong way to approach a negotiation, and when to reassess whether the profession you’ve chosen is still the right one for you. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-45 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
22 Jun 2023 | Riding Tech Booms and Busts as a Lawyer: Perspectives from David Lancelot | 00:46:45 | |
Join us for an inspiring conversation with David Lancelot, a seasoned legal leader who has fearlessly embraced the ever-evolving world of technology. While being a tech lawyer is undoubtedly exciting right now, David's journey dates back to a time when it was considered too daring to venture into this domain. With firsthand experiences of seeing the dot-com boom, surviving the crash, and now witnessing the resurgent growth of the tech industry, David's wisdom is invaluable. We had the pleasure of sitting down with him to uncover his extraordinary path, starting from his role as GC at a high-risk tech start-up to leading a global team spanning the globe at eBay Classifieds. During our conversation, we dive into David's strategies for scaling legal teams, establishing trust internally and especially with CFOs, driving impactful change within his team and the entire business, and championing the importance of legal ops. But above all, we uncover key insights that legal professionals and leaders need to position themselves and their teams as true co-leaders within the business. If you're a tech lawyer looking to navigate the thrilling world of technology with confidence, this episode is a must-listen. Topics: Introduction – 00:00 Working in tech start-ups from the early days – 1:35 Being the first legal hire at QVC – 4:43 Surviving the tech market crash & navigating lay-offs – 10:16 Playing in global legal markets & building an international team – 14:35 Scaling the legal function like a business team – 21:24 Building trust with CFOs & earning resources for legal – 25:51 Optimizing processes & bringing in legal ops – 28:16 Driving change within your team & the business – 32:19 Using data to communicate & build trust internally – 39:14 The future of legal & legal ops – 43:53 Connect with us: David Lancelot - https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidlancelot/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com/ to learn more. | |||
08 Feb 2024 | Building, leading, and scaling legal teams | Bonus Episode | 00:37:48 | |
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22 Nov 2023 | Privacy, Ad Tech, and AI: Julia Shullman, GC and Chief Privacy Officer, Telly | 00:43:08 | |
New technologies are advancing faster than ever. How can we rely on our experience to solve unforeseen privacy issues as our personal data makes its way to places we never imagined it could end up? Julia Shullman, Telly’s GC and Chief Privacy Officer, has spent nearly two decades advocating for privacy in the complex ecosystem of advertising technology. She has learned that one of the most important things a Chief Privacy Officer can do is acknowledge what they don’t know and rely on the expertise of other teams to build smart products that protect user data. Join Julia as she reveals her thoughts on where these essential consumer safeguards are headed as we enter into an era of AI and business-first thinking. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-16 Topics: Introduction: 0:18 Blending hardware, software, and privacy at Telly: 1:00 Finding your way from M&A to privacy law: 4:16 Transitioning into ad tech at AppNexus: 6:37 Identifying the necessary attitude to be successful in privacy: 10:42 Overseeing the transformation from AppNexus to Xandr at AT&T: 13:10 Taking on a GC role at TripleLift: 15:45 Building trust with executive team and partners at Vista Equity Partners: 22:07 Stepping away to found a privacy and policy consulting firm: 25:57 Advice to lawyers searching for their next GC role: 32:12 Considering the future of the chief privacy officer role: 33:24 Speculating on the future of privacy and AI: 36:17 Book recommendations: 41:34 Connect with us: Julia Shullman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-shullman/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
21 Mar 2025 | Ep 90: From Engineer to Top Lawyer at Adobe and Microsoft with Dana Rao | 00:58:03 | |
How do you make the transition from IP lawyer to general counsel in a typical path? Help Adobe navigate a transition to the cloud, and then the AI era? And make time for your family through all the ups and downs? Join Dana Rao, former general counsel at Adobe and IP and Licensing expert at Microsoft, as he discusses how he capitalized on his electrical engineering background to skyrocket himself from a patent attorney to the forefront of some of the most consequential technology decisions of the last two decades—including topics like copyright, AI, litigation, and more. Listen as Dana explains how he became invaluable to Janet Reno’s justice department, how to make ethical business decisions, influencing legislation to combat patent trolls, and more more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-91 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
15 Apr 2025 | Ep 94: Why Legal Teams Break and How to Fix Them with Manu Kanwar, CEO LexSolutions | 00:59:19 | |
How important is the culture of an organization to its success? How can legal leaders cultivate high-performing cultures for their teams and their companies? And why is this something that a lot of legal teams struggle with? Join Manu Kanwar, Founder and CEO of LexSolutions, as he shares how he improves his clients’ legal teams and why he focuses on strategy, culture, and relationships as the cornerstones of legal innovation. Listen as Manu discusses strategies for changing work cultures, fixing toxic situations, and maintaining a healthy self-image, why he left Yahoo! after ten years to start his own legal consulting firm, the problem with “doing more with less,” and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-94 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
14 Feb 2025 | Ep 83: The 2025 Legal Ops Playbook with Brightflag's Kevin Cohn & Priori's Matt Wheatley | 01:16:26 | |
What does 2025 hold for legal tech and the legal ops profession? Will legal ops ever become a standard part of every in-house legal team? Join us in this very special episode as Tyler invites Kevin Cohn, Chief Customer Officer at Brightflag, and Matt Wheatley, VP of Client Strategy at Priori, for a very special, no-holds-barred discussion about legal operations in an ever-changing industry. Listen as Matt and Kevin share their thoughts on legal ops conferences, gender and wage disparities, whether legal ops is more of a legal role or an operational role, 2025’s uncomfortably tight labor market, AI disrupting the legal ops field, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-83 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
13 May 2024 | Ep 38: Product Counseling at Nest, Apple, and a Climate Change Startup: Vineet Shahani, GC, Mill | 00:45:03 | |
How do you step into and thrive in the role of product counselor? How does the work of a product counselor change from organization to organization? And how can you recalibrate your legal career to focus on environmental issues and climate change? | |||
22 Feb 2024 | Data, Privacy, and Podcasting: Andy Dale, GC & CPO, OpenAP | 00:47:17 | |
In an always-changing ad tech industry, how have privacy and data protection emerged as two of the largest challenges that organizations need to face? Whether it’s streaming platforms, engineering AI models, or aligning key industry stakeholders, these topics are evolving faster than the world can keep up with. OpenAP GC & Chief Privacy Officer Andy Dale has been leading conversations about privacy and data protection for more than a decade. He shares stories and advice from his time as the only privacy counsel at Mastercard, an organizer of some of the first privacy and data-focused industry groups, overseeing privacy at standards-making body OpenAP, and co-hosting his popular and influential podcast for more than 80 episodes, Data Protection Breakfast Club. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-25 Topics: Introduction: 0:00 Predicting the importance of data protection and recalibrating your career: 3:24 Connecting laws and data in the privacy sphere: 6:52 Leading privacy diligence during SessionM sale to Mastercard: 11:25 Identifying your interests to determine your next professional move: 15:26 Working across competitive lines at OpenAP: 19:35 Predicting the data and privacy ecosystem ahead: 24:36 Viewing AI through privacy and data protection: 27:50 Evolving the Chief Privacy Officer role: 30:19 Advice to junior lawyer breaking into privacy: 33:48 Co-hosting a podcast about privacy and data protection with over 88 episodes published: 38:22 Privacy-related book recommendations: 44:06 Advice to younger lawyers: 45:16 Listen to an episode of Andy’s Data Protection Breakfast Club podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trevor-hughes-ceo-at-iapp/id1559290322?i=1000514250595 Connect with us: Andy Dale - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andy-dale-7705b83/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
29 Nov 2023 | Big Risks and Big Rewards: René Paula, GC & SVP of Legal & Business Affairs, Vaxxinity | 00:44:07 | |
What does it take for a lawyer to expand their remit and become an operator, a business strategist, or even a founder? Beyond speaking up, what do you need to take on in order to advance from the traditional legal role of in-house counsel? René Paula, Vaxxinity’s GC and Senior Vice President of Legal and Business Affairs, knows a lawyer needs to be able to speak multiple languages. Not just spoken languages, but the languages of math, finance, and accounting. It helped fuel his marathon career, including financial transactions at HSBC, counsel at Amazon’s Audible, new ventures at Anheuser Busch, closing a sale to Accenture, and taking Vaxxinity public. Join René as he discusses the challenges and triumphs he’s faced and emphasizes the importance of maintaining an intimate connection to your financial numbers. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-17 Topics: Introduction: 00:15 Recounting the experiences that shaped you as a leader: 2:14 Entering the world of financial services at HSBC: 4:18 Moving into tech at Amazon’s Audible: 6:13 Transitioning from in-house lawyer to founder at Sonar: 11:01 Spearheading Zx Ventures at Anheuser Busch: 16:39 Expanding beyond legal and chasing big enterprise at Bionic: 19:49 Selling your professional services business to Accenture: 22:43 Returning to legal and operations at Vaxxinity: 25:29 Positioning yourself as an operator from a General Counsel role: 32:24 Mistakes you’ve made and seen others make: 38:10 Book recommendations: 41:39 Connect with us: René Paula: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rpaula/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
17 Apr 2023 | The Limits, and Limitlessness, of the Legal Function | 00:56:01 | |
A typical legal department has some clearly defined responsibilities: commercial contracts, regulatory compliance, employment law, and perhaps government affairs. Yet, legal touches nearly all the other functions in a business and has a unique vantage point. What happens when legal is asked — or chooses — to take on more? Join Apollo.io Chief Legal Officer Megan Niedermeyer and Senior Legal Operations Manager Brenda Yun Perez for a practical conversation about the limits, and potential limitlessness, of what the legal can take on. We’ll talk through real-world examples like establishing a Deal Desk, owning HR, and other operational processes they’ve chosen to take on as they’ve pursued personal and team growth. And we’ll discuss how to decide if legal should give something its led back to another team in the business. | |||
17 Oct 2024 | Ep 61: How to lead Legal without a JD with Zoe McMahon, HP, Head of Legal Ops | 00:35:54 | |
What skill set should the Chief of Staff to a Chief Legal Officer of a major international corporation need? How do you build trust with a Chief Operating Officer? How do you cultivate the right culture with a large legal and compliance team? Join Zoe McMahon, Chief of Staff, VP of Legal Strategy and Operations at HP, as she shares stories and lessons from her thirty-year career at the world’s second largest computer manufacturer. Starting her career in environmental responsibility, Zoe has transferred her skills to a diverse roster of teams, including HP’s global human rights office, privacy, and legal operations. Listen as Zoe discusses how she drives change from within, why she loves working on the forefront of developing legal and business fields, her fascination with long-term change, why she values strong relationships, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-61 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
07 Nov 2024 | Ep 65: Why GCs Need to Understand Geopolitics with Sean West | 00:49:49 | |
Do general counsels need to care about geopolitics? Is now the right time to start a legal tech company? And should you consider growing your team in a place other than Silicon Valley, like Rwanda? Join Sean West, Co-Founder at Hence Technologies and writer at Geolegal.substack.com, as he explains how he became a geopolitical forecaster for corporations and hedge funds at Eurasia Group, then chose to co-found a tech company that brings geopolitical insights to general counsels and executives at a time of rising international volatility. Listen as Sean explains why CEOs are becoming chief geopolitical officers, why government affairs teams are increasingly falling under the purview of the general counsel, how he develops his predictions in a constantly changing world, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-65 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
13 Mar 2025 | Ep 89: From Hackathon to Legal Game-Changer with Hannah Konitshek, Founder, Legal.io | 00:43:08 | |
How do you build a legal marketplace with more than 75,000 community members? Find the right investors to join you on the journey? And help the business navigate the inevitable pivots that will come along with its growth? Join Hannah Konitshek, COO and Founder of Legal.io, Business Operations and Strategy, as she dives deep into the business of legal tech, and how a relationship built during a hackathon transformed into the premiere marketplace for in-house legal talent. Listen as Hannah explains how attending law school in San Francisco guided her legal career, founding and growing a start-up with a legal background, how to balance your convictions with investors, and learning that the biggest risk is not taking a big enough swing. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-89 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
06 Mar 2025 | Ep 87: Building a Culture of Integrity with Rob Chestnut, former Airbnb Chief Ethics Officer | 00:51:43 | |
What role does integrity need to play in your company's culture? How can legal teams and corporate leaders foster it? And where do you get started if you want to write a book on it? Join Rob Chesnut, author of Intentional Integrity: How Smart Companies Can Lead an Ethical Revolution, as he discusses his path from prosecutor at the Department of Justice to tech industry legal leader at eBay, Chegg, and Airbnb, and how integrity and ethics became the cornerstone of both his career and his personal philosophy. Listen as Rob discusses scaling global legal teams for some of the biggest disruptors in the world, embedding integrity into your company’s corporate culture, transitioning from general counsel to author and thought leader, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-87 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
22 Aug 2024 | Ep 52: How Vanessa Wu, GC @Rippling tackled Silicon Valley Bank's collapse | 00:49:12 | |
How do you raise nine figures in financing in twelve hours as the first Twitter-fueled bank run is happening around you and you feel the pressure of hundreds and thousands of employees depending on your ability to finish the deal so their paychecks clear? | |||
17 Apr 2025 | Ep 95: How Adidas Is Scaling Legal Ops with Alex Herrity, Director, Global Legal Solutions | 00:52:35 | |
Where is the legal innovation space headed? Is this an area where European businesses are actually investing more deeply than their American counterparts? And how can you transition your team to focus more on innovation and a little less on the law? Join Alex Herrity, Director of Global Legal Solutions at Adidas, as he offers expert takes on the future of legal tech and legal ops, including adopting new technology like AI, leaning into change management, scaling innovations globally, and more. Listen as Alex discusses his transition from lawyer to “legal tech guy,” the growing acceptance of ops roles in inhouse legal departments, legal innovation’s big moment, hosting the Law://WhatsNext podcast, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-95 Topics Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
19 Nov 2024 | Ep 67: The Future of Crypto Regulation with Heath Tarbert, Circle CLO and Former CFTC Chair | 00:58:23 | |
What is the transition like from government service to a C-suite leadership role at a cutting edge tech company? How are regulators thinking about crypto and other financial innovations? And is public service something that's still inspiring or something that we ought to aspire to? Join Heath Tarbert, Chief Legal Officer and Head of Corporate Affairs at Circle, as he draws on his extensive and prodigious career in public service–serving as Chair of the Commodity Futures Trading Commision, associate White House counsel, Supreme Court clerk, special counsel to the Senate Banking Committee, and more–to break down the legal side and wide-ranging impacts of financial markets around the globe. Listen as Heath discusses the intersection between law, finance, and public policy, the future of cryptocurrency, the value of humility, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-67 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
30 Dec 2024 | Ep 74: Advice to Young Lawyers | Bonus Episode | 00:15:20 | |
What’s the best advice you can offer to young lawyers who are just starting their careers? What do you wish you’d known then that you know now? These are the questions we ask each of our guests at the end of every episode of The Abstract. Listen to some of our favorite answers from the legal leaders and C-suite executives who visited the podcast in 2024 and hear tips about trusting your gut, building strong relationships, taking surprising career paths, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-74 Topics:
SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
19 Apr 2024 | Ep 34: From Prosecuting to Leading In-house at a Tech Startup: S. Michael Lee, GC & COO at Engaging.ai | 00:31:06 | |
How do you approach, accept, and move on from career transitions, both planned and unexpected? What does it take to transition from decades in public service to roles leading legal at tech startups and law firms? And how can you leverage your network to bounce back after an unexpected layoff? S. Michael Lee, General Counsel and COO at Engaging.ai, has conquered many of these tense moments. Starting his career as the first Korean-American prosecutor in the Santa Clara County DA’s Office, he brought lessons learned from his experience as a trial attorney to his second chapter as an in-house counsel and—eventually—legal and business leader. Hear Michael as he discusses why your network is essential to finding your next role, why you shouldn’t limit yourself or your job prospects, and the importance of honoring your roots in your professional life, Annual Compensation Report: https://salary-report.spotdraft.com/ Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
31 Jul 2024 | Ep 49: Will AI change Legal Work Forever?: Joe Green, Chief Innovation Officer, Gunderson Dettmer | 00:48:49 | |
How is AI going to change the practice of law? How is one of the most forward looking law firms adapting? And will the billable hour go away? | |||
06 Feb 2025 | Ep 82: How Carta Built a Legal Team from Scratch & Scaled 10X with April Lindauer, GC | 00:31:43 | |
How do you build a fintech juggernaut and redefine how employees think about ownership in businesses, navigate regulatory roadblocks along the way, and build a global team to make it happen? Join April Lindauer, General Counsel at Carta, as she discusses her start-up’s tremendous journey from 200 employees to more than 2000, as the software platform that allows users to manage equity, build businesses, and invest in the companies of tomorrow as they expand into an ever-growing list of international markets. Listen as April offers tips for working with regulators, navigating several financing rounds, building out legal operations, working with great outside partners, and hiring the perfect team, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-82 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
09 Aug 2023 | Navigating IPOs and Acquisitions: GC Gary Spiegel Takes Us Behind the Scenes | 01:02:40 | |
Enabling a successful IPO is an important milestone in a GC’s career. For Gary Spiegel, it was a passion he’d pursued ever since he transitioned from the regulatory world into Silicon Valley. Join us as Gary takes us behind the scenes into his experience: -navigating two acquisitions in two years, from MySQL to Sun Microsystems to Oracle, -fulfilling his dream of becoming an IPO GC at Anaplan, -helping them again go private in a blockbuster acquisition by Thoma Bravo. Along the way, we’ll also discuss what goes into building large legal teams and setting them up for success, finding growth opportunities within legal as well as other functional areas, and more. This is an episode you don’t want to miss. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-8 Topics: Introduction: 00:00 Gary’s start with regulatory law and shift to the business side: 01:32 The journey from MySQL to Sun Microsystems to Oracle through multiple acquisitions: 06:58 Supporting a company as its first GC and taking over the legal function from the CFO: 15:54 The right time to join a company as the first legal hire or GC: 22:22 Behind the scenes to Anaplan's successful IPO: 27:18 Thoma Bravo's acquisition of Anaplan and Legal’s role in ensuring success: 33:54 Building a team of 20+ people and setting them up for success: 37:16 Communicating the value of legal within the business: 43:00 Leveraging legal expertise as a springboard into other roles: 49:18 Strategies for managing stakeholder relationships and balancing legal support: 52:00 The future of in-house legal roles: 56:56 Connect with us: Gary Spiegel - https://www.linkedin.com/in/gspieg/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
17 Mar 2023 | Dive into The Abstract | 00:00:50 | |
Next month, we’ll be launching our new podcast: “The Abstract.” Join Tyler Finn, Head of Community and Growth at SpotDraft, as he interviews leading general counsels, chief legal officers, and legal executives. Our conversations will cover how they’ve nurtured their careers, grown in their roles, become true operators within their businesses, and even taken on other C-suite positions. Tyler spent half a decade building the legal community as an Advisor to TechGC, which grew in membership by nearly 10x during his tenure. He also has deep expertise leading privacy and public policy as a member of in-house legal teams at a variety of high-growth start-ups like Foursquare. We’re so excited to introduce you to some of the leading in-house legal minds of today and tomorrow. Join us as we work to go beyond the practical and make sense of the “The Abstract.” | |||
08 Aug 2024 | Ep 50: How beating cancer twice helped him become the "Zen" GC: Dan Haley, GC, Guild | 00:55:26 | |
How do you help CEOs transition out of the business? How do you project calm in a time of crisis? Can you draw on the experience of beating cancer twice as you navigate the challenges of executive leadership? | |||
17 Sep 2024 | Ep 56: Poker helped me negotiate contracts, says Andrew Woods, GC @PubMatic | 01:02:47 | |
Can playing cards teach you to be a better lawyer? How do you make it in Silicon Valley without the traditional big law firm experience? And how do you make the jump to public company general counsel? Join Andrew Woods, General Counsel at PubMatic, as he discusses the unique path he forged from professional poker player to legal star. From founding a think tank at Harvard focused on poker and law to breaking into tech and privacy as Director of Legal and Associate Counsel at Twitter, Andrew relies on his belief in the value of autonomy, mastery, and significance to guide him towards work that makes him happiest. Listen as Andrew discusses his love for game theory, landing a fulfilling job leading legal at a tech company, hiring lawyers based on their ambitions instead of their experience, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-56 Topics: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
23 Jan 2025 | Ep 79: Understanding the Future of Patent Law with Patsnap's Matt Veale | 00:28:28 | |
How is the rise of AI going to affect the intellectual property field and patents? What are some common mistakes that GCs make when setting up a patent strategy? Or tips that our guest has learned from years as a patent examiner? Join Matt Veale, European Patent Attorney and UPC at PatSnap, as he leads us into this podcast’s first-ever deep dive into all things patents and IP, sharing expert advice on the best way to work with examiners to bring your innovations to the world. Listen as Matt discusses why he thinks IP is the most important thing in the world, the importance of data analytics, bridging the gap between lawyers and R&D, building a strong patent strategy, the future of IP law, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-79 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
10 Nov 2023 | Navigating Public Scrutiny & Adversity as a GC: Mark Marin's Candid Insights | 00:36:01 | |
How do you navigate being in the public eye of a high-profile company? What happens when you become embroiled in a public controversy and your company doesn’t have your back? This is just one of the themes we will be delving into with Mark Marin, Puffco’s General Counsel, on this episode of The Abstract. In this incredibly candid conversation, Mark will take us through: — the challenges he faced during his time at Barstool Sports, a notorious media company; — the challenges that led him to Barstool Sports, namely a bankruptcy and two different acquisitions at his previous companies; — and his current role at Puffco, a start-up within the cannabis industry. Learn what it takes to truly overcome adversity as a GC. This is one episode you don’t want to miss. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-15 Topics: Introduction: 0:25 Jumping into the fast-paced start-up world at Quirky: 2:31 Discovering a silver lining during bankruptcy: 6:40 Navigating being acquired twice in the span of a short time: 10:17 Learning from trying to merge cultures during company acquisitions: 14:58 Grappling with adversity as Barstool Sports’ first General Counsel: 18:50 Finding support during career challenges: 27:20 Venturing a new path in the cannabis industry: 30:40 Parting advice for younger attorneys: 33:17 Resources mentioned in the episode: Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek: https://simonsinek.com/books/leaders-eat-last/ Connect with us: Mark Marin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-marin/ Tyler Finn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn SpotDraft - https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
14 Nov 2024 | Ep 66: Tennis & Media Law with Peter Steckelman, SVP, Tennis Channel | 00:51:03 | |
What lessons from tennis can you apply to your day-to-day life? How do you build a career as a dealmaker working with high-profile talent? How has the entertainment industry, and what it needs from its lawyers, changed over the years? Join Peter Steckelman, Senior Vice President of Business and Legal Affairs at the Tennis Channel, as he shares stories from his uniquely wide-ranging career in entertainment law, including working in-house work at Disney, Fox Entertainment, Warner Brothers, Mattel, and Konami. Listen as Peter serves up stories about his lifelong love for tennis, negotiating with celebrity athletes, and the joys of working in film, television, video games, streaming, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-66 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
04 Apr 2024 | Ep 30: Leading Legal in Complex Regulatory Environments: Hardeep Singh, GC, CRED | 00:56:14 | |
How is tech changing India’s financial services industry? How do you deal with complex regulations that change as rapidly as tech products do? And how can a multinational company expand into India’s culturally, geographically, and linguistically diverse market? Hardeep Singh, General Counsel at CRED, has faced these challenges head-on. Starting his career in litigation, he moved on to in-house counsel for Uber in Delhi and helped pioneer solutions to improve the city’s public transit. Now he leads the legal team at CRED, a reward-based credit card payment app that integrates with India’s massive mobile payment system. Hear Hardeep as he shares his experiences structuring M&A deals, navigating nuanced regulations, leading legal for a dynamic design-based product, and finding motivation from solving real world problems. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-30 Topics: Introduction: 1:17 Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
28 Sep 2023 | From NASA to HR Tech: Evan Ferl, Chief Strategy Officer & GC, Bambee | 00:42:53 | |
Where does legal end and strategy begin? Taking on new tasks and new roles can help you expand beyond the traditional GC role. But are enthusiasm and attitude enough to skyrocket you to bold new places in your career? Join Bambee Chief Strategy Officer & GC Evan Ferl for an exciting discussion about following your passions and using legal to inject positivity into your organization. We’ll hear tips for advancing your career to match your ambitions, activating your creativity, and find out how Ferl expanded beyond legal in his roles at Hired, Poshmark, Bambee, and his many personal ventures, like Neatworking. We’ll also discuss how making mistakes can be an essential key to success and how to capitalize on your enthusiasm. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-11 Topics: Introduction: 00:00 Finding your passion working in legal: 02:14 Starting his career at NASA with a cold email: 06:23 Exploring work at big and small companies: 11:10 Expanding beyond legal: 14:06 Approaching strategy and corporate development from a legal perspective at Poshmark: 19:05 Finding ways to activate creativity: 23:48 Transitioning into a strategy role at Bambee: 26:12 Identifying the inflection point to begin a new venture: 28:39 Launching the Neatworking newsletter: 32:23 Improving your writing practice: 37:23 Advice for younger lawyers: 40:34 Connect with us: Tyler Finn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tylerhfinn Evan Ferl: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evanferl/ Evan’s newsletter: https://evanferl.substack.com/ Evan’s children’s story book: https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/maxs-big-day-evan-james-ferl/1142525323 SpotDraft Summit 2023: http://surl.li/lufqw SpotDraft: https://www.linkedin.com/company/spotdraft SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
29 Oct 2024 | Ep 63: From Prosecutor to GC at Enfusion with Matt Campobasso | 00:55:13 | |
How can the general counsel become a true partner to the executive team? How about in the context of a public company? How can the general counsel ensure that that same can-do attitude that they bring to the table pervades the rest of their legal team? Join Matt Campobasso, General Counsel at Enfusion, as he shares stories and lessons from his unique legal career: starting as a prosecutor outside of Chicago, litigating at a firm for more than a decade and becoming partner, then transitioning to in-house and leading legal at a publicly-traded fintech company. Listen as Matt discusses how his time in the courtroom shaped his approach to in-house legal, how to build a department of independent, driven lawyers, cultivating a business mindset in your team, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-63 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. | |||
12 Apr 2024 | Ep 32: From Product Counseling at Apple & Meta to the Crypto World: Nguyen Vu, DGC, OKX | 00:44:54 | |
How do you realign your legal career in order to break into the tech industry and product counseling? What are the major differences between headline-grabbing big tech companies and ambitious start-ups? And should the goal of every in-house counsel be a GC title? Nguyen Vu, deputy general counsel at OKX, leveraged his persistence, skills, and showmanship to redefine himself as a tech attorney. Starting off as a lawyer working in telecoms regulation, Nguyen was able to land a major product role at Apple, become the “mini GC” of digital currency at Facebook, and lead international product teams at successful fintech and crypto startups. Hear Ngyuen as he shares the valuable lessons he’s learned about regulation, consumer protection, motivating your team, steering your career in the direction you want to take it, and more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-32 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading CLM platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. Visit https://www.spotdraft.com to learn more. | |||
18 Dec 2024 | Ep 72: Lobbying for Better Telehealth Regulations with GC Adam Greenberg | 00:55:18 | |
What do you need to know about managing government affairs for heavily regulated, high growth brands? Is it perhaps the most interesting part of a GC's job? And will it actually lead you to Washington D.C. or maybe other slightly less glamorous cities? Join Adam Greenberg, Advisor and Fractional General Counsel at APG Advising, as he shares lessons from years as top in-house counsel at healthcare start-ups Warby Parker and Ro about lobbying state legislatures to make telehealth more accessible to customers across the United States. Listen as Adam discusses the legal needs of direct-to-consumer businesses, working with lobbyists and legislators at a state level, sharing notes with your closest competitors to change regulations, destigmatizing embarrassing medical topics, and much more. Read detailed summary: https://www.spotdraft.com/podcast/episode-72 Topics: Connect with us: SpotDraft is a leading contract lifecycle management platform that solves your end-to-end contract management issues. |