Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast (Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar)

Sarvy, Scott, and new co-host Jennifer Jhun interview Professor Tom Stapleford about his past work on historical epistemology, his more recent work on the engineer and statistician (and co-founder of the National Bureau of Economic Research) Malcolm Rorty, and about his current book project, which considers how to craft government statistics that conform to democratic principles. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Carlos, Scott, and Gerardo are joined by Ivan Moscati, Professor of Economics at Insubria University in Italy, to discuss his book, Measuring Utility: From the Marginal Revolution to Behavioral Economics (2018, Oxford University Press). 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

François, Çınla, and Jennifer interview Till Düppe, Professor of Economics at Université du Québec à Montréal, about his work on lived epistemology, Gérard Debreu, Sidney Weintraub, and other topics.  

François, Jennifer, and Çınla chat with Roni Hirsch, Assistant Professor in the Department of Government and Political Theory at the University of Haifa, about her research on profit, uncertainty, risk, Frank Knight, John Hicks, and other related subjects. 

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall are joined by Maria Pia Paganelli, Professor of Economics at Trinity University and one of the world's leading Adam Smith scholars. Topics include the significance of reading Adam Smith in the modern age, recent trends in Smith scholarship, how studying Smith affects one's outlook on society and politics, and the value of exercise to professional success in academia. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer interview Professor Edmund Phelps, Director of the Center on Capitalism and Society at Columbia University and winner of the 2006 Nobel Prize in Economics, about his new memoir, My Journeys in Economic Theory (May 2023, Columbia University Press).

In this month's episode, Çınla, Scott, Jennifer, and Carlos are joined by Antoine Missemer and Marco Paulo Franco to discuss their work on ecological economics and their forthcoming co-authored book on the history of the field. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jenn and Scott are joined by Cléo Chassonnery-Zaïgouche, Research Associate at Cambridge University's Centre for Research in the Arts, Social Sciences and Humanities, to discuss several of her recent research projects. Topics include economists and econometricians as expert witnesses in American court cases, Milton Friedman's controversial paper "Capitalism and the Jews," Tim Leonard's book Illiberal Reformers, and the history of CSWEP, the American Economic Association’s Committee on the Status of Women in the Economics Profession. 

Links to papers discussed in this episode:

"How Economists Entered the 'Numbers Game': Measuring Discrimination in the US Courtrooms, 1971-1989":

 https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/abs/how-economists-entered-the-numbers-game-measuring-discrimination-in-the-us-courtrooms-19711989/313D29D444F656B990B151829E32719F

“'There Is Nothing Wrong about Being Money Grubbing!' Milton Friedman’s Provocative “Capitalism and the Jews” in Context, 1972–88": 

https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/53/2/313/167843/There-Is-Nothing-Wrong-about-Being-Money-Grubbing?redirectedFrom=fulltext

"Race in the History of Economics: The Missing Narratives?": https://journals.openedition.org/oeconomia/8158

"'Economics is Not a Men’s Field’: A History of the American Economic Association’s Committee on the Status of Women in the Economics Profession": 

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3510857

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society:

http://historyofeconomics.org

Gerardo, Scott, and Carlos talk with Robert Leonard, former President of the History of Economics Society and Professor of Economics at Université du Québec à Montréal. The discussion ranges from the history of game theory to the "Buddhist economics" of E. F. Schumacher, Professor Leonard's latest research subject, to his experiences studying under the late Craufurd Goodwin, a legendary figure in the field of history of economic thought.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Jenn, and Scott are joined by Rebeca Gomez Betancourt, Professor of Economics at Université Lumière Lyon 2 and current President of the Latin American Society for the History of Economic Thought (ALAHPE). Discussion topics include the history of feminist economics, the "missionary" work of economist Edwin Walter Kemmerer, and Professor Gomez Betancourt's work with ALAHPE and the History of Economics Diversity Caucus. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jenn, Carlos, and Scott are taking off the month of August, but will return with a new episode and some exciting news in September! 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, Carlos, Sarvy, and Scott are joined by three early-career scholars to discuss how the pandemic has affected their teaching and research, their conference experiences and their career prospects. 

Marina Uzunova is a PhD candidate in philosophy at the Free University of Amsterdam. 

David Coker is a PhD candidate in economics at George Mason University. 

Dorian Jullien is a professor of economics at University Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall discuss a few recent additions to the literature in the history of economic thought. Topics include the disagreement between Adam Smith and Edmund Burke over the East India Company, the evolving conceptualizations of "poverty" in African languages, and the role that policymakers' epistemic limitations may have played in the current "democratic crisis" in many Western democracies. 

If you are inclined to read the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Gregory M. Collins: "THE LIMITS OF MERCANTILE ADMINISTRATION: ADAM SMITH AND EDMUND BURKE ON BRITAIN’S EAST INDIA COMPANY"

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/limits-of-mercantile-administration-adam-smith-and-edmund-burke-on-britains-east-india-company/4003B9E2C8C6175246EBCC68D96C4290

Rhiannon Stephens: "BEREFT, SELFISH, AND HUNGRY: GREATER LUHYIA CONCEPTS OF THE POOR IN PRECOLONIAL EAST AFRICA"

https://academic.oup.com/ahr/article-abstract/123/3/789/5025220?redirectedFrom=fulltext

François Facchini and Mickael Melki: “THE DEMOCRATIC CRISIS AND THE KNOWLEDGE PROBLEM”

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/polp.12330

Here are links to Scott's work that he references in the episode:

"IGNORANCE AND THE INCENTIVE STRUCTURE CONFRONTING POLICYMAKERS" 

https://cosmosandtaxis.files.wordpress.com/2019/08/scheall_ct_vol_7_iss_1_2.pdf

F. A. HAYEK AND THE EPISTEMOLOGY OF POLITICS: THE CURIOUS TASK OF ECONOMICS

https://www.routledge.com/F-A-Hayek-and-the-Epistemology-of-Politics-The-Curious-Task-of-Economics/Scheall/p/book/9781138289956

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Scott, Jennifer, and Çınla are joined by Margaret Schabas, Professor of Philosophy at the University of British Columbia, to discuss her work. Professor Schabas is the author of numerous articles and several books, including The Natural Origins of Economics, published in 2005, and A Philosopher’s Economist: Hume and the Rise of Capitalism, co-authored with Carl Wennerlind, and published by University of Chicago Press in 2020. These books, especially the latter book on David Hume, constitute the main topics of the discussion.

Çınla, Jennifer, and Scott are joined by Ann Mari May, Emeritus Professor of Economics at the University of Nebraska, to discuss her new book, Gender and the Dismal Science: Women in the Early Years of the Economics Profession.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Scott Scheall, Gerardo Serra, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak are joined by François Allisson, Senior Lecturer in the Walras-Pareto Center at the University of Lausanne, Switzerland. Discussion topics include Nikolai Sieber, the first Russian translator of Marx, Professor Allisson's work on the reception of marginalist economics in Russia, and life at the Walras-Pareto Center.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this month's episode, Çınla, Jennifer, and François speak with Professor Cheryl Misak, University Professor of Philosophy at the University of Toronto, Fellow of the Canadian Royal Society, and Guggenheim Fellow, about Frank Ramsey: A Sheer Excess of Powers, her highly regarded biography of the influential mathematician, philosopher, and economist. Other topics include Professor Misak's work on Charles Sanders Peirce and the pragmatist tradition at the University of Cambridge. 

In this episode, Çınla and Jenn interview Altuğ Yalçıntaş, Professor of Institutional Economics at Ankara University. Discussion topics include Professor Yalçıntaş' work on the history of the Coase Theorem, the need for research ethics in economics, and what it's like to do graduate work under the supervision of certain well-known economists. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer and François are joined by Julien Gradoz for one of our occasional episodes focused on the work and lives of early-career scholars in the history of economic thought and economic methodology. Julien is a recently minted PhD from the University of Lille. Topics include his experiences in graduate school, writing his dissertation, career prospects in the field, and Julien's research on the economics of product quality. 

Here is a link to some of Julien's recent work (may be paywalled):

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-institutional-economics/article/abs/managing-repugnance-how-corestigma-shapes-firm-behavior/D6DD4071A3C3A4DCCFCD6D239D34324D

In this episode, Carlos, Scott, and Jenn are joined by Professor Steven Medema, Research Professor of Economics at Duke University and Associate Director of Duke's Center for the History of Political Economy. Topics include the history and meaning of the Coase Theorem, Professor Medema's recent book, The Economics Book: From Xenophon to Cryptocurrency, 250 Milestones in the History of Economics, and the question of progress in the field of the history of economic thought. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Scott, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature in history of economic thought and methodology.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Counterfactual Thinking and Attribute Substitution in Economic Behavior

John Davis and Theodore Koutsobinas (2021), Review of Behavioral Economics: Vol. 8, No. 1, pp 1-23

Neoclassical Supply and Demand, Experiments, and the Classical Theory of Price Formation

Sabiou M. Inoua and Vernon L. Smith (2022), History of Political Economy: Vol. 54, No. 1, pp. 37–73

What’s (Successful) Extrapolation?

Donal Khosrowi (2022), Journal of Economic Methodology: Vol. 29, No. 2, pp. 140-152

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, Scott, and Jennifer speak with Annalisa Rosselli, Senior Professor of History of Economic Thought at Tor Vergata University of Rome and Luiss University of Rome. Discussion topics include Professor Rosselli's work on the significance of speculation for the history of economic thought, Piero Sraffa, John Maynard Keynes, and the economic lessons taught by World War II. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall are joined by Alain Marciano and Jean-Baptiste Fleury, co-winners of this year's Craufurd Goodwin Prize for Best Article in the History of Economics for their article "The Making of a Constitutionalist: James Buchanan on Education." In addition to their joint project on Buchanan, Marciano's forthcoming biography of Buchanan, Nancy MacLean's infamous book on Buchanan, Democracy in Chains, the discussion considers Fleury's work on the history of the law-and-economics tradition, his use of textbook material in his historical work, and what makes a successful collaborative project in the history of economics. 

Alain Marciano and Jean-Baptiste Fleury - The Making of a Constitutionalist: James Buchanan on Education

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall are joined by the new co-editor of the Journal of the History of Economic Thought, Professor Jimena Hurtado of Universidad de los Andes. Discussion topics include the economic philosophies of political theorists Jean-Jacques Rousseau and Alexis de Tocqueville, the modern significance of classical economics, the importance of field work to development economics, and the leading role of Latin American scholars in today's community of historians of economic thought.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Sarvy, Carlos, Jenn, and Scott, are joined by James Ashley Morrison, Assistant Professor in the Department of International Relations at the London School of Economics. The conversation is focused on Professor Morrison's forthcoming book on the history of the gold standard. Topics include the roles that J. M. Keynes and Winston Churchill played in Britain's return to the gold standard in 1925, the political-economic significance of the gold standard, the relationship between the disciplines of political economy and IPE (International Political Economy), and Professor Morrison's approach to writing history. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this month's episode of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar, François, Çınla, and Jennifer sit down with Marcel Boumans, Past President of the History of Economics Society, and Professor of History of Economics and Head of Section of Applied Economics at Utrecht University School of Economics. Topics include Professor Boumans' work on the historiography of mathematical economics and the meaning of art for the history of economics. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Today’s economics: one, no one and one hundred thousand

Angela Ambrosino, Mario Cedrini & John B. Davis

Neither Populist nor Neoclassical: The Classical Roots of the Competition Principle in American Antitrust Law

Nicola Giocoli

Before NBER: Warren Nutter's Soviet Research at the CIA

Daniel Kuehn

Carlos, Sarvy, and Gerardo speak with Ryan Walter, Associate Professor at the University of Queensland. Topics include Professor Walter's work on the meaning and significance of classical economics and political economy, the historiography of intellectual history, and his own experience as a podcaster. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, our intrepid hosts interview Keith Tribe, Senior Research Fellow at the University of Tartu, about his work on a range of topics in economic history and the history of economic thought, including the subjects of his books Land, Labour, and Economic Discourse (1978), Strategies of Economic Order: German Economic Discourse, 1750-1950 (1995), and The Economy of the Word: Language, History, and Economics (2015).

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

François, Jennifer, and Çinla chat with former Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar co-host Scott Scheall about his work on the methodology of the Austrian School of economics and the problem of policymaker ignorance. Scott's new book, Dialogues concerning Natural Politics, is available for free on his Substack page, The Problem of Policymaker Ignorance, where you can also find his new podcast, The Week in Policymaker Ignorance.

Çinla, François, and Jennifer are joined by Glory M. Liu, assistant director for the Center for Economy and Society and assistant research professor at the SNF Agora Institute at Johns Hopkins University, to discuss her new book, Adam Smith's America: How a Scottish Philosopher Became an Icon of American Capitalism. 

In this episode, a recording of a discussion held at Arizona State University as part of the Center for the Study of Economic Liberty's Perspectives on Economic Liberty series, historians of economic thought Sandra Peart of the University of Richmond and Joseph Persky of the University of Illinois-Chicago discuss John Stuart Mill, his relationship with his friend and, later, wife Harriet Taylor-Mill, and his writings on, and ever changing attitude toward, economic freedom. 

Video of the event can be found here: https://csel.asu.edu/media/videos

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

We're taking a break for the month of August to enjoy the remnants of the summer. Talk to you again on September 15th.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Scott, Gerardo and Carlos review three recent additions to the literature in the history of economic thought and economic methodology: Gerardo discusses a paper on the role of the “economic priest” in the cooperative movement in Ireland in the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries; Scott reviews a paper addressing two contrasting views of ecological rationality in the works of Vernon Smith and Gerd Gigerenzer; and Carlos discusses a paper about the evolving meaning of “consumption” as an economic concept and the role of intoxicants in crafting its early uses.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

THE CLERGY, ECONOMIC DEMOCRACY, AND THE CO-OPERATIVE MOVEMENT IN IRELAND, 1880–1932
Patrick Doyle
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01916599.2020.1747226

TWO TYPES OF ECOLOGICAL RATIONALITY: OR HOW TO BEST COMBINE PSYCHOLOGY AND ECONOMICS
Erwin Dekker and Blaž Remic
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1350178X.2018.1560486

INTOXICANTS AND THE INVENTION OF ‘CONSUMPTION’ 
Phil Withington
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/ehr.12936

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jenn, Çınla, and Scott discuss a number of recent additions to the literature in history of economic thought and methodology. 

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Searching for a Tide Table for Business: Interwar Conceptions of Statistical Inference in Business Forecasting

Laetitia Lenel

History of Political Economy (2021) 53 (S1): 139–174

https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/53/S1/139/175168/Searching-for-a-Tide-Table-for-BusinessInterwar

Behavioural Insights Teams (BITs) and policy change: An exploration of impact, location, and temporality of policy advice

Ishani Mukherjee and Sarah Geist 

Administration and Society, 52(10), 1538-1561

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0095399720918315

Knowledge, behaviour, and policy: questioning the epistemic presuppositions of applying behavioural science in public policymaking

Magdalena Małecka

Synthese, Volume 199, 5311–5338

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s11229-021-03026-6

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, François, and Çınla talk with Professor Kayoko Misaki, Professor of Economics at Shiga University in Hikone, Japan, about her recent book, Léon Walras’s Economic Thought: The General Equilibrium Theory in Historical Perspective. 

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall interview Stephen Meardon, Associate Professor of Economics and Director of the Center for the Study of Western Hemispheric Trade at Texas A&M International University. Discussion topics include Professor Meardon's work on the history of American trade protectionism and the relevance of this history to contemporary circumstances, as well as his tenure as editor of Journal of the History of Economic Thought.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, a recording of a public lecture held at Arizona State University, co-host Scott Scheall talks with Bruce Caldwell and Brad Bateman about the work of F. A. Hayek and John Maynard Keynes, as well as the professional relationship and personal friendship between the two famous economists.

ERRATUM: At one point late in the episode, Scott mentions a postcard that Keynes sent to Hayek, in which the former praised the latter's famous Road to Serfdom. In fact, it was a letter, not a postcard that Keynes sent to Hayek. 

Co-host Scott Scheall interviews Tyler DesRoches, Senior Sustainability Scholar and Assistant Professor in the Julie Ann Wrigley Global Institute of Sustainability at Arizona State University. The conversation encompasses the ever-growing significance of interdisciplinary approaches to social inquiry, environmental economics and its history, the history of theories of natural capital, and the relation between philosophical and economic accounts of well-being.

Now that the school break is over, Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar will return with our standard three-person interview format next month. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Çınla and François are joined by Kseniia Lopukh, Associate Professor of Economics at National Taras Shevchenko University of Kyiv, to discuss her work on the famous Ukrainian economist, Mikhail Tugan-Baranovsky, as well as the economic history of, and history of economic thought in, Ukraine.

Jennifer, Çınla, and Scott are joined by four early-career scholars to discuss their research projects, experiences in the field, and career ambitions. 

Christina Laskaridis is Lecturer in Economics at the Open University and Fellow at St Edmund Hall University of Oxford.

Ana Paula Londe Silva is a Ph.D. candidate in History of Economics at the Federal University of Minas Gerais.

Max Ehrenfreund is a Ph.D. candidate in History of Science at Harvard University.

Edoardo Peruzzi is a PhD candidate in Economics at the Tuscan Universities (Florence, Pisa and Siena) and Visiting Scholar at Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, recorded at the 2019 Annual Meeting of the History of Economics Society, co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall are joined by five historians of economics still in the early stages of their careers to discuss several of the issues confronting young scholars in the field. The co-hosts are joined by Anna Noci of the University of Insubria, Matthieu Renault of the University of São Paulo, Chung-Tang Cheng of the London School of Economics, Matthew Panhans of the U.S. Federal Trade Commission, and Raphaël Fèvre of Cambridge University.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

In this episode, Scott Scheall sits down with Stefan Kolev, Professor of Economics at the University of Applied Sciences Zwickau, to discuss a range of topics, including the history and significance of the German Ordoliberal economists, the "Old" Chicago school of economics, the proper meaning of the term “neoliberalism,” and Stefan’s upbringing in post-communist Bulgaria.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Hobbes and the political economy of population – Brian Smith

Motivated ignorance, rationality, and democratic politics – Daniel Williams

Beyond the Sonderweg: defining political economy in 19^th-century Germany – Luiz Felipe Bruzzi Curi and Ian Coelho de Souza Almeida

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Join co-hosts Gerardo Serra, Scott Scheall, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak as they summarize and discuss a few contributions to the recent literature. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak and Scott Scheall are joined by Hans-Michael Trautwein, Professor of Economics at the Carl von Ossietzky University of Oldenburg and Past President of the European Society for the History of Economic Thought (ESHET). The conversation covers the relationship between business-cycle theorizing and macroeconomics, the current state of macroeconomics ten years after the financial crisis, the study of economics and its history in China, and Hans-Michael's argument that historians of economics are the field's "last generalists." 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Carlos attends the 7th Latin American Conference of the History of Economic Thought in Curitiba, Brazil, and talks with Jimena Hurtado of Colombia's Universidad de los Andes, Jose Edwards of Chile's Universidad Adolfo Ibáñez, Felipe Almeida of Brazil's Federal University of Paraná, Rebeca Gomez Betancourt of the University of Lyon in France, and Alexandre Mendes Cunha of the Federal University of Minais Gerais about the past, present, and future of the Latin American Society for the History of Economics (ALAHPE).

In this episode, Çınla, Scott, and Jennifer interview Judith Favereau, Associate Professor of economics at Université Lumière Lyon 2, about her interesting work on the methodological aspects of field experiments in economics. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

This unique episode features Gary Mongiovi of St. John's University and David Levy of George Mason University discussing their particular perspectives on the work of James Buchanan, winner of the 1986 Nobel Prize in Economics, and father of public choice economics and constitutional political economy. The episode begins with an excerpt from Professor Mongiovi's presentation at the first Winter Institute for the History of Economic Thought, held at Arizona State University in January. Mongiovi interprets Buchanan as (what Marx called) a "vulgar economist," who offered disguised ideological arguments as scientific analyses. In a roundtable discussion conducted after Mongiovi's talk, Professor Levy, co-author with Sandra Peart of the forthcoming book about Buchanan and his Virginia School of Political Economy, Towards an Economics of Natural Equals:
A Documentary History of the Early Virginia School, argues that understanding Buchanan's economics requires a more nuanced interpretation. A fruitful scholarly discussion between Mongiovi and Levy follows. 

For the symposium on Nancy MacLean's Democracy in Chains referenced in Professor Mongiovi's lecture, see:

https://www.emerald.com/insight/publication/doi/10.1108/S0743-4154201937B

For information on Levy and Peart's forthcoming book, see the book's page at Cambridge University Press:

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/towards-an-economics-of-natural-equals/8BFAF197C4ACF4724B70AC398C18A5A0

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In another of our occasional early-career scholars episodes, Çınla, Jennifer, and François speak with Hannah Glasson and Dominic Walker, both currently fellows at Duke University's Center for the History of Political Economy, about their interests in the history of economic thought, experiences in graduate school, the academic job market, and their various research projects. 

Gerardo, Scott, and Carlos talk with philosopher of economics Catherine Herfeld, Assistant Professor of Social Theory and Philosophy of the Social Sciences at the University of Zurich. Topics include Herfeld's work on the various meanings and uses of the rationality principle in economics, the challenges of straddling the disciplines of economics and philosophy, and the pros and cons of different methods of research in the history of economics. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In this wide-ranging episode, co-host Scott Scheall interviews Ross Emmett, Professor of Political Economy and Director of the Center for the Study of Economic Liberty at Arizona State University. Discussion topics include Ross's work on Frank Knight and the circle of economists around Knight at the University of Chicago, Robert Malthus's contributions to economics, and Ross's friendship with the influential historian of economic thought Warren Samuels. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

In Episode Twenty Three, Professor Richard van den Berg of Kingston University London joins Carlos, Scott, and Gerardo to talk about the life and times, and economic ideas of Richard Cantillon, the early 18th-century Irish-French economist, banker, and financial rapscallion. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Scott Scheall, Gerardo Serra, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak discuss a few recent additions to the literature in the history of economic thought. Topics include the intellectual relationship between David Hume and Jean-Jacques Rousseau, the visit of a delegation of radical American economists to Mao's China during the Cultural Revolution, and the evolution of the structuralist research program in Latin American monetary economics.

If you are inclined to read the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Ryu Susato: “How Rousseau Read Hume’s Political Discourses: Hints of Unexpected Agreement in Their Views of Money and Luxury”

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09672567.2018.1499788

André Roncaglia de Carvalho: “A Second-Generation Structuralist Transformation Problem: The Rise Of The Inertial Inflation Hypothesis”

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/secondgeneration-structuralist-transformation-problem-the-rise-of-the-inertial-inflation-hypothesis/E7DA5C0A3C34381502F3C71D8B81A476

American Radical Economists in Mao’s China: From Hopes to Disillusionment
Isabella Maria Weber and Gregor Semieniuk

https://emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/S0743-41542019000037A005

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Jennifer, François, and Çınla are joined by Laetitia Lenel, Professor of Cultural History of the Economic in the Institute of History at the University of Duisburg-Essen, to discuss some of her recent work on the role of narratives in economics.

Jennifer, Çınla, and François chat with Alex Thomas, Assistant Professor of Economics at Azim Premji University in Bangalore, Karnataka, India about his research and teaching. 

Çınla, François, and Jennifer chat with Danielle Guizzo, Associate Professor in Economics Education at the University of Bristol. Topics include Professor Guizzo's work deconstructing economic expertise and her recent papers on the economics of Barbara Wootton, best known as a sociologist and criminologist, and on the relationship between public economics and John Rawls, the famous political philosopher. 

Jennifer, Scott, and Çınla are joined by Bruce Caldwell, Director of the Center for the History of Political Economy and Research Professor of Economics at Duke University, and Hansjörg Klausinger, Associate Professor Emeritus in the Department of Economics at The Vienna University of Economics and Business, to discuss their newly-published biography of F. A. Hayek, titled Hayek: A Life, 1899-1950.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Sarvy, Scott, and Carlos interview Jeff Biddle, Professor of Economics at Michigan State University and Past President of the History of Economics Society. Topics include the relationship between Biddle's historical work and his work as a labor economist, the history of agricultural economics, the business cycle work of Wesley Clair Mitchell, and Biddle's forthcoming book on the Cobb-Douglas production regression. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla and Jenn chat with Helen McCabe, Associate Professor in Political Theory at the University of Nottingham, about John Stuart Mill and his attitude(s) toward socialism. Professor McCabe is author of John Stuart Mill, Socialist, published in 2021 by McGill-Queen's University Press. 

Jennifer, Çınla, and François talk with André Lapidus, Professor Emeritus of the History of Economic Thought in the Laboratoire PHARE at University of Paris 1 Panthéon-Sorbonne, regarding his work on David Hume, the history of ideas about usury, and economic historiography. 

In this short, preliminary episode, Co-hosts Scott Scheall, Gerardo Serra, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak introduce you to a new podcast about the history of economic thought, Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer are joined by Alexander Linsbichler, Senior Postdoc with the Institute of Philosophy and Scientific Method at Johannes Kepler University in Linz, Austria, and Lecturer of Philosophy and Economics at the University of Vienna, to discuss his work on rational reconstruction as a philosophical method, Austrian Economics, and the Vienna Circle of Logical Positivism. 

Maria Cristina Marcuzzo, Professor of Political Economy at the University of Rome La Sapienza, joins co-hosts Scott Scheall, Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, and Gerardo Serra for a wide-ranging discussion of her work on Keynes and Cambridge economics, the relationship between Keynes and his great rival, Friedrich Hayek, the contemporary relevance of Marxian economics, as well as the present state and future of the field of history of economic thought. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Our scheduled interview had to be canceled at the last moment, so we took the opportunity to have a short chat with out new co-host, François Allisson, Senior Lecturer at the Walras-Pareto Centre for the History of Economic and Political Thought at the University of Lausanne.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org.

Jennifer, Çınla, and Scott discuss some of their own recent research, what it takes to develop a successful research project, and offer some advice to graduate students and early-career scholars in the history of economics.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Scott Scheall, Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, and Gerardo Serra are joined by three historians of economics still in the early phases of their respective careers -- Maria Bach of the American University of Paris, Kelly Goodman of Yale University, and Erich Pinzón-Fuchs of Universidad de los Andes -- for a discussion of the many fascinating challenges that confront young scholars in the field.  

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

In our 50th (!) episode, we interview our soon-to-be-former co-host Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak about his many and varied research interests. Topics include Carlos's work on early modern political economy, British trade in the 1620s, G.D.H. Cole's work on economic planning during the interwar period, Nicholas Georgescu-Roegen's work on economic development, and the influence of the "Vanderbilt Boys" on academic economics in Brazil. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, Çınla, and François interview Carl Wennerlind, Professor of History at Barnard College, Columbia University. Topics include Professor Wennerlind's newly-published book, Scarcity: A History from the Origins of Capitalism to the Climate Crisis, co-authored with Fredrik Jonsson, the history of political economy in early modern Sweden, and A Philosopher's Economist: [David] Hume and the Rise of Capitalism, written with Margaret Schabas, and published in 2021. [NOTE: Professor Schabas appeared on the show to discuss the book in May 2022, Episode 56.]

In this episode, Gerardo, Carlos, and Scott interview Ivan Boldyrev, Assistant Professor of History and Philosophy of Economics at Radboud University. Topics include Ivan's work on economics and performativity, the history of economics in Soviet and post-Soviet Russia, and the significance of Hegelian philosophy and critical theory for economic thought. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Gerardo Serra, Scott Scheall, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak interview Mauro Boianovsky, Past-President of the History of Economics Society, about his work on the history of development economics, the influence of Latin American scholars on contemporary history of economics, his experience as a graduate student with the post-Keynesian economic tradition at Cambridge, and the importance of travel writing to historical scholarship on economic thought. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar: A History of Economics Podcast is supported by the History of Economics Society: www.historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer discuss a number of recent additions to the literature.

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

Macroeconomics under pressure: the feedback effects of economic expertise by Matthieu Renault

Thorstein Veblen and Socialism by Geoffrey M. Hodgson

Ukrainian Financial Reforms in 1917-1922 by Kseniia Lopukh

In this episode, Carlos, Sarvy, and Gerardo interview Fabian Muniesa, Director of Research at the Centre de Sociologie de l'Innovation (CSI), a research center of L'École des Mines de Paris. Discussion topics include Muniesa's earlier work on performativity and how it evolved, valuation studies, ethnographic approaches to economic sociology and business education, and the work and legacy of David Graeber.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Çınla, François, and Jennifer interview Pedro Garcia Duarte, Senior Research Fellow with the Insper Institute of Education and Research in Sao Paulo, Brazil, and co-editor of Journal of the History of Economic Thought, about his work on the history of macroeconomics. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Jennifer, Çınla, and François are joined by Spencer Banzhaf, Professor of Economics and Director of the Center for Environmental & Resource Economic Policy at North Carolina State University, to discuss the history of environmental economics and, especially, his new book Pricing the Priceless: A History of Environmental Economics.

Scott, Carlos, and Jenn are joined by Michele Alacevich of the University of Bologna to discuss his new book, Albert O. Hirschman: An Intellectual Biography:

http://cup.columbia.edu/book/albert-o-hirschman/9780231199827

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In this one-on-one interview, co-host Gerardo Serra talks with Felwine Sarr, author of Afrotopia (2016) and professor of economics at Gaston Berger University in Senegal. Topics include the relevance (or lack thereof) of development economics to conditions in African economies, the significance of African philosophy for thinking about the economic problems of the continent, and the status of the field of history of economic thought in Africa.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-host Scott Scheall is joined by Malcolm Rutherford, Professor of Economics at the University of Victoria in British Columbia, Canada, and 2014 Distinguished Fellow of the History of Economics Society, to talk about Professor Rutherford's work on the American Institutionalist economists.

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Sarvy, Carlos, Gerardo, and Scott discuss several recent additions to the literature in history of economic thought and methodology. 

If you are interested in reading the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls):

ADDRESSING THE AUDIENCE: PAUL SAMUELSON, RADICAL ECONOMICS, AND TEXTBOOK MAKING, 1967–1973

YANN GIRAUD

Journal of the History of Economic Thought, Volume 42, Issue 2

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/abs/addressing-the-audience-paul-samuelson-radical-economics-and-textbook-making-19671973/C160BF7367B5A43F9B1B292A939904E2

A FACTORY AFIELD: CAPITALISM AND EMPIRE IN JOHN LOCKE'S POLITICAL ECONOMY 

LUCAS G. PINHEIRO

Modern Intellectual History, Published Online October 1, 2020

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/modern-intellectual-history/article/abs/factory-afield-capitalism-and-empire-in-john-lockes-political-economy/FD6B1584129D54BCF6D64ACADD51B696

MICHAEL POLANYI’S NEUTRAL KEYNESIANISM AND THE FIRST ECONOMICS FILM, 1933 TO 1945

GÁBOR ISTVÁN BÍRÓ

Journal of the History of Economic Thought, Volume 42, Number 3

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/abs/michael-polanyis-neutral-keynesianism-and-the-first-economics-film-1933-to-1945/3013E469C730D7A95B9E1715D9860E3A

JOHN MAYNARD KEYNES, H. G. WELLS, AND A PROBLEMATIC UTOPIA

PHILLIP W. MAGNESS AND JAMES R. HARRIGAN

History of Political Economy, Volume 52, Issue 2

https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/52/2/211/151718/John-Maynard-Keynes-H-G-Wells-and-a-Problematic

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, Gerardo Serra, and Scott Scheall summarize and discuss several recent contributions to the scholarly literature in the history of economic thought. Topics include the funding practices of the Ford Foundation in 1960s Latin America, as well as the continuing relevance of both the socialist calculation and Hayek-Keynes debates to contemporary economics and, especially, economic policymaking. 

If you are inclined to read the papers discussed in this episode, here they are (unfortunately, some may be behind paywalls): 

Patrick Iber - "Social Science, Cultural Imperialism, and the Ford Foundation in Latin America in the 1960s"

https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/9781315200828/chapters/10.4324%2F9781315200828-6

Richard Sutch - "Reading Keynes at the Zero Lower Bound: The Great Depression, The Liquidity Trap, and Unconventional Policy" 

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-the-history-of-economic-thought/article/reading-keynes-at-the-zero-lower-bound-the-great-depression-the-liquidity-trap-and-unconventional-policy/72E234973C73D7574722AE16BC64967E

Thomas Uebel - "Calculation in Kind and Substantive Rationality: Neurath, Weber, Kapp"

https://read.dukeupress.edu/hope/article-abstract/50/2/289/134727/Calculation-in-Kind-and-Substantive?redirectedFrom=fulltext

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Co-hosts Gerardo Serra, Scott Scheall, and Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak chat with Secretary of the History of Economics Society, Marianne Johnson of the University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh. Topics include Professor Johnson's work on the American Institutionalist economists, her thoughts on Democracy in Chains, historian Nancy MacLean's controversial book about James Buchanan and Virginia political economy, and about her experiences doing research in and about the country of Albania. 

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

The co-hosts are joined by Professor Sandra Peart to discuss her many and varied contributions to the history of economic thought. Professor Peart is Dean and E. Claiborne Robins Distinguished Professor in Leadership Studies and President of the Jepson Scholars Foundation at the University of Richmond. She is also the most recently named Distinguished Fellow of the History of Economics Society, which the Society confers on those who have contributed a lifetime of study to the history of economics. Topics include Adam Smith, John Stuart Mill, James Buchanan, and, of course, her esteemed co-author, David Levy. 

In this episode, Çınla and Scott discuss their experiences using podcasts as a teaching tool in the classroom and the value of using episodes of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar to teach the history of economics. 

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In this episode, Scott and Gerardo and new co-host, Sarvnaz Lotfi, are joined by Jennifer Jhun, Assistant Professor of Philosophy at Duke University and Faculty Fellow with Duke's Center for the History of Political Economy. The discussion revolves primarily around the uses and abuses of modeling in economics and other fields, such as epidemiology, the usefulness of models for policy purposes, and the significance of ceteris paribus clauses and equilibrium theorizing in economics.

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Jennifer, Scott, and Carlos are joined by Manuela Mosca, Professor of History of Economic Thought at the University of Salento in Italy. The conversation is focused on Professor Mosca's work on the role that concepts of power have played in economics, especially her book, Monopoly Power and Competition: The Italian Marginalist Perspective, which won the 2019 Jospeh J. Spengler Book Prize, awarded by the History of Economics Society.

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Kevin Hoover, Professor of Economics and Philosophy at Duke University, joins co-hosts Scott Scheall, Carlos Eduardo Suprinyak, and Gerardo Serra. The discussion covers an array of topics, including the current state of macroeconomics, the need for a degree of pluralism in economic science, the relationship between Hoover's work in economics and philosophy, the economics of the original pragmatist philosopher, Charles Sanders Peirce, and the tolerant attitude typically embraced by the international community of historians of economics.

Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar is supported by a grant from the History of Economics Society: http://historyofeconomics.org

Carlos, Scott, and Jenn are joined by Çınla Akdere, Assistant Professor of Economics at Middle East Technical University in Ankara (and soon-to-be co-host of Smith and Marx Walk into a Bar). Topics discussed include the relationship between economics and literature, the use of literature as a tool for teaching economics, and the economic significance of various of the works of Charles Dickens and Stephen King.

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