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How do you apply fragrance? Well, that is a many-pronged question, pondered for many years and with varying degrees of authority on the matter.  Tl;dr: it depends. How far do you want your scent to emanate? How many enemies do you have? Why doesn't perfume ever last as long as you want it to, no matter how much you douse yourself?  (That we can help with.) Your hosts will answer these queries and many more things that no one and everyone asked us on the matter, imparting our fragrant knowledge on the most effective ways to smell like whatever it is you wish to smell like.  

[Fragrances mentioned: D.S. & Durga St. Vetyver, Kendall Jenner Olive]

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The best compliments are ones where you feel understood, known, and sometimes maybe a little too seen. This is where fragrance serves as a homing beacon. Here is a fun little ep about the most memorable scent compliments we've received, as well as copious encouragement to compliment other peoples' fragrances. Why? Because it's nice and makes people feel nice, and sometimes it's just nice to smell nice things and say that out loud. 

[What we smell like today: Mind Games Caissa, D.S. & Durga Mahogany Kora]

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We are having a nice little convo with Bec Morgan of Armani Fragrances to talk all things Privé, My Way, and the lasting legacy of Acqua Di Gio. 

[What we smell like today: Persons Of Interest Vanille Bombe, BDK Parfums Gris Charnel Extrait]

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You mean to tell me a boy made this smell?? Matthew Herman, the co-founder of everyone’s favorite candle brand, Boy Smells, joins us to talk about creating the candle brand with his partner David, pivoting from fashion to fragrance (and underwear), what happens when Kacey Musgraves slides into your DMs (the Slow Burn collaboration, that's what) and why a “genderful” lifestyle is so much more enriching than genderless. [Fragrances mentioned: Maya 1, Maya Base, GAP Dream] Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Once again we are talking about body odor and all the agents of its disguise we have at our disposal, with cosmetic chemist and co-founder of Hume Supernatural, Melissa Christenson.

[What we smell like today: Elorea Be By My Side,  mannn idk]

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You know those cool, eye-catching candles that pop up on your Instagram feed (usually in a very aesthetic post) and are so VIVID that it's like you can smell them from your phone screen? Yeah, we know them too. Known for their striking packaging and uniquely quirky and luxurious scents that can fill your studio apartment as well as they can fill your chalet,  Otherland creates interesting home scents for  interesting people. Brand founder Abigail Stone comes on the pod to talk about what it's like creating a candle brand, having the world's most prestigious perfumers making their scents, and the thoughtful engineering that actually goes into candle parts and packaging that are the difference between candles that behave and candles that suck (you know the ones). 

[Fragrances mentioned: Kilian Love, Don't Be Shy Extreme; Akro Dark and Akro Haze]

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Now that another Memorial Day has been memorialized, that means it's officially summer — the season of skin. And smelling  scents on other people's skin. So, that got us thinking... what kinds of scents do people compliment the most? And what do they have in common? How do certain scents develop a reputation beyond their intended context? And most importantly, what scents can we wear  manipulatively for nefarious or promiscuous purposes? Here are our personal findings, from our experience.

[What we smell like today: Louis Vuitton Attrape-Reve, CK One Summer Daze]

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The scent of Sexy™ as far as we the people know it in the mainstream has been delivered by Victoria's Secret. We have Adriana Medina, VP Perfumer at Givaudan, who's created such tentpole scents as Bombshell and Tease, to explain Victoria's secret of Sexy™ with us.

[What we smell like today: MEMO Paris Italian Leather, Le Monde Gourmand Fraise Fouettée]

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Addictions are the hedonistic and sometimes dangerous expression of our indulgences, so it should be of little surprise that scents are a huge indicator, enabler,  and even keeper of our fondness for these experiences that may be toxic in nature—but definitely not in this fragrance concept. That's the sweet spot that Akro hits, a new perfume brand from Anaïs Cresp, Jack Miskelly, and Olivier Cresp, the nose behind the six fragrances in their initial offering (and behind  Angel, Light Blue, Nina Ricci Nina, Black Opium—so many hits!!).  We speak with father-daughter duo Olivier and Anaïs about Akro's olfactory spin on some familiar addictions, and how indulging them through scent can be a powerful experience all its own. 

[Fragrances mentioned: Bel Rebel Bubble Gum, Akro Awake]

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It's 2023 and three years after launching this podcast, we have yet another maybe annual awards that acknowledge the year's triumphs and the year's flops, with minimal pivoting to scent trends, brand follies, and however else we were confused and flabbergasted by fragrance this past year.

Episode Rundown:

~ 10:17 Tynan smells like Hermés Twilly Tutti

~ 15:30 Sable smells like Ex Nihilo Musk & Supernatural Oud oils

~ 18:35 Let the awards ceremony begin

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Carbon emissions = bad. Perfume = good. This is the basic math behind Air Company's second product ever: AIR EAU DE PARFUM, a fragrance made from CO2 emissions. How do you make perfume from [gestures all around] the air?? We have Greg Constantine, co-founder of Air Company on the pod to tell us about his humble operation that literally turns carbon emissions into useful things like vodka, perfume, and jet fuel — all essential items for our planet's uncertain future. 

[What we smell like today: Skylar Vanilla Sky, Air Company Air Eau De Parfum]

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On this, the holiest week of tax season, we've decided to examine the sinnery of scents — specifically the seven deadly sins and what they would smell like. Also, beauty marketing has reached a new level of unawareness. Oh yes, and we get down to musing about which of the 7s we're personally guilty of, and which fragrances would scent a sin. That's all. Enjoy!

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[What we smell like today: Oribe Desertland, Malin + Goetz Strawberry]

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Juliette Has A Gun's founder Romano Ricci may be more of a Mercutio in the Shakespeare-coded and metaphorical world of this episode. With Not A Perfume, Anyway..., Mmmm..., Ode To Dullness, and others, Juliette Has A Gun has undone haute parfumerie's formalities and proven that levity can be luxury as well. We speak with Ricci about the risk of launching an unserious fragrance brand in the height of mid-aughts fragrance culture, his roots in fragrance and fashion legacy, and how fragrance can be invisible armor.

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You asked, and we deliver. Not that wouldn't have thought to do so of our own accord, but it just so happens all our interests and obsessions align with the release of Ariana Grande Cloud 2.0 Intense —  the more dramatic newborn sibling to our beloved Cloud.  In this episode,  we review the new fragrance (obviously), we break down the nuanced differences between the Intense and the original, we disagree about the word "boyfriend," and also Dolly Parton's fragrance (sorry), we reinvent the fragrance wheel by inserting "cloud" as a scent profile category. Yes, we have it on good olfactive authority that Cloud is a unique and recognizable enough accord that its name deserves respect and promotion. Also because everyone seems to be clocking Cloud as a dupe for this or a "this is the only perfume people compliment on me" that. It's time. We graciously took it upon ourselves to name several contenders that illustrate exactly what we mean.

[What we smell like today: Maison Margiela Replica Autumn Vibes, By Kilian Apple Brandy]

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Things we are talking about in this episode: 

• How all of Miami smells like BR540.
• Morning Swood.
• Elorea's new fragrance collection: Timeless Legacy.
• The polarizing (between us) Frederic Malle X Acne scent.
• Lube.
• Lube.
• And more Lube — with Dave Shanfield of GoodParts

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Every year we concoct the most unique, intriguing, clever, and correct awards categories for smells and scents in the Smell Ya Later universe. This year is no different, except yes it is because we've added new categories that explore the depths of our scent logic that you can only find on Smell Ya Later.

This year's categories are:

• The Honda Award For Best Accord or Note
• The Hi diva, you know, I’m just not feeling this one Award for Biggest Flop
• The Industry Plant - Best Fragrance That Smells Like Libre
• They’re here, they’re queer, and they’re not going anywhere…? Award for Best Body Spray
• The Tynan Sinks Award for Biggest Fruit
• The “Touch My Body” by Mariah Carey Award for Best Smelling Body Product
• The Kris Jenner Award for Note We Want to Get Really Famous
• The Chappell Roan Award for Best Overnight Success
• The That’s That ME Espresso Award for best Coffee Fragrance
• The Anna Delvy honorable mention for best scam scent
• The Sav’ring All My Love For You Award for Best Savory Scent
• The Eras Tour Award for Longest Lasting Fragrance
• The Missionary Position Award for Best Vanilla Scent
• Best Idea We Had
• The “Ladies And Gentlemen, H.E.R.” Award For Best Girl Smell
• The Pink RAZR Award for Best Y2K Scent
• The “This Shit Again?” Award for Best Flanker//The “She’s You, But Stronger” Award for Best Flanker//The REEEMMMIIIXXX 🔊🔊🔊Award for Best Flanker

[What we smell like today: St. Rose Out Of The Blue, Will Levis No8 Parfum De Mayonnaise]

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Mugler Angel is one of the most famous fragrances ever. The iconic star-shaped bottle is instantly recognizable as is its scent — unapologetically sweet, sticky, hot, and heavy. It gets in your nose, your eyes, your mouth, and sets up shop in your brain with all its gooey, candy-like floof.  Its overwhelmingly abundant make-up is what we affectionately refer to as "shit on shit." You either love it or can't stand it. 

There's more to her than just dozens upon dozens of notes and accords, though, as we've learned and you can too, in this episode — like the genesis of the fragrance, what untraditional ingredients made it not just another fragrance but an innovation of what fragrance could be, what inspired the bottle, how many takes it took to get the scent right, and just how many goddamn flankers its spawned (a lot). 

[What we smell like today: Mugler Alien, Replica When The Rain Stops]

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We finally lawyered up... to find out how and why scents are trademarked. We'll smell you in court!

[What we smell like today: Universal Flowering There Is Bliss Then There Is You]

 

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We have the perfumer of the moment, Frank Voelkl on for this benchmark episode of Smell Ya Later. We talk scent trends, signature perfume styles, how one fragrance he created is solely responsible for Big Sandalwood's rise, why everyone is obsessed with scents that smell like nothing, and his favorite scent that he's made.

[What we smell like today: Fzotic Vetiverissimo, Kayali Deja Vu White Flower]

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"Skin scents" are a newly trendy fragrance aesthetique that we can all thank/blame the people who brought you  'no-makeup makeup' and con culture. Just kidding (maybe)! We've had a vague idea of what skin scents are—transparent, musky, "natural"-smelling, non-perfume-y fragrances that mold to the wearer's skin chemistry—but not what's actually in the juice. So we took it up with the molecule master Geza Schöen, perfumer and founder of Escentric Molecules. The fragrance brand's debut fragrance isolated Iso E Super, the molecule that started it all. This lab creation is what gives skin scents that  je ne sais quoi responsible for the radiant, ethereal, intimate quality that skin scents have come to be known for. Schöen gives us a breakdown of this molecule as well as all of the molecules in the Escentric Molecule line, along with comprehensive insight into synthetic aroma molecules and their value to the fragrance industry. 

Also, for loyal listeners or anybody who read this far down in this episode note, grab 15% off of Escentric Molecules' 10pc Discovery Set and/or M+ Discovery Set on LuckyScent.com with the code 'SMELLYA'. 

[What we smell like: Issey Miyake L'Eau D'issey Pour Homme, Marc Jacobs Daisy Eau So Intense]

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Those who know better know that money smells like balls, but when it comes to smelling rich, wealthy, or classy, people have opinions that may or may not be misinformation  set to a soundtrack of Lana Del Rey remixes on everyone's favorite clock app. It's a vibe, it's a mood, it's perhaps an ill-conceived aspiration that says nothing of wealth itself but the idea of a certain level of taste and what it means to live a life of conspicuous consumption. So, we stay wondering. Why does everyone want to smell rich, anyway?

[What we smell like today: DS & Durga Pistachio, Snif Natural Talent]

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It's the most capitalist time of the year! Haha! But honestly how else would we show our nears and dears just how much we care about them if not via material items with indisputable monetary valuations? OK, but for real though, not to brag — these gifts are actually really good. We've outdone ourselves. They're delightful, functional, and they all smell incredible (duh). Like, you COULD just get them for yourself but...look, we're not the boss of you. Your brilliant hosts have curated a gift guide SO COMPREHENSIVE that you won't even REALIZE how good your lives could've been smelling until this thoughtful and clever episode aired.

[What we smell like this episode: Escentric Molecules 05, Imaginary Authors Cape Heartache]

 

What's on the list:

Pura Smart Home Fragrance Diffuser,

Sibling Candle Kit,

Canopy Humidifier,

Fancy Japanese Incense,

Flower subscription,

Sanctuary by Apotheke,

Altar Candle by Byredo,

Fig Bodywash by Harry’s,

Replica Discovery Set

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What if you could use your sense of smell to fall asleep quicker and rest more deeply?  We have vice president and perfumer at Givaudan Olivier Gillotin on the pod to tell us about Dreamscentz™, the tech that aids the creation of scents scientifically designed to promote better sleep. We get into the research and the application of how these scents are created and how scent can affect mood for overall wellbeing. 

[What we smell like today: Phlur Missing Person, Juliette Has A Gun Not A Perfume Superdose]

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You may have noticed how the co-hosts of this podcast audibly cringe every time we talk about a fragrance that is marketed as an "oriental" scent. It feels icky and wrong and way tone-deaf. Because it is. But why does the fragrance industry continue using such an outdated term in such a blasé matter-of-fact way? It's not like there aren't a ton of other more accurate descriptors that could be used to better explain a fragrance. It remains a mystery, however, one that more and more people are starting to rightfully question, ourselves included. While there isn't much discourse on this problematic topic, we reference this flare dot com article by Madelyn Chung for its in-depth research—a perfect springboard for your co-hosts to bounce off of and, as the kids say, go awf.

[Fragrances mentioned: Kilian Intoxicated, Black Phantom; Kayali Sweet Diamond Pink Pepper, Maison Margiela Replica Matcha Meditation]

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This is the Smell Ya Later perfume primer. In our careers as beauty writers and editors, we've sniffed a fair amount of fragrances and learned a fair amount of behind-the-scenes fragrance industry stuff, in general. Are we experts? God, no. But do we know more about perfume than the average mouthbreather? Yes. Here is a brain-dump of all that information so you will never again confidently say "sill-age" when it is indeed "si-yahhzh." Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

As this episode title suggests, this is another classic chat, featuring listener voice memo guidance, new smells, October vibes (?), seasonal scents not being a thing except for fall (and maybe summer), scents we want to smell but haven't yet, etc. Surprisingly! With very minimal spiraling! They said it couldn't be done!  Enjoy :)

[What we smell like today: Matiere Premiere Crystal Saffron, Easu Vert Purple Noon]

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LUSH is perhaps best known for bath bombs with the biggest bloom. However, they also have some of the most unique and memorable fine fragrances -- all handmade with a combination of thoughtfully sourced naturals and synthetics.  This episode, we speak with LUSH's perfumer and creative buyer about all how a handmade brand creates such potently memorable and earth-friendly fragrances as they do. 

[What we smell like today: LUSH Rentless, LUSH Lust]

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A hangtime discussing the BBC documentary about child labor in the Egyptian jasmine supply chain, scented lip balms are everywhere, normalizing not having takes on everything (in beauty coverage ), Binaurale's kooky fragrances, a poppers-themed (?) Boy  Smells candle, how a brand's signature scent is its strongest leverage, and how the fragrance You is the dangling carrot in the Glossier buyout rumors. 

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It's our episode with the brand that your hosts grew up with, formed our nascent scent-ualities around, and forever have a soft spot in our gummy little hearts for... Bath & Body Works. It was the mall oasis where for less than $20 you could form your identity within clouds of Warm Vanilla Sugar, Sun-Ripened Raspberry, and Juniper Breeze.

Chrissy Montera, Associate VP of Marketing at Bath & Body Works joins us on the pod to talk about her impressive tenure at the brand, building the legacies of scents that we've come to associate with our adolescence, and how Bath & Body Works endures to this day as the brand that grew up with you.

[What we smell like today: Catbird Tarot Deck, Maison Margiela Replica Music Festival]

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We thought we had heard the last of what luxury fragrance could be, and then came Aeir. Founded by disciples of the tech, luxury, and designer goods worlds, we have Enrico Pietra and Rodrigo Caula on to talk how about fragrance can be a vehicle to express how luxury is so much more than cost and expense. With the innovation of extractionless molecular scent-making, custom packaging made from thoughtful materials, and designed to highlight how chic those materials can be, Aeir's first offering is four scents that smell as lux as they look. 

[What we smell like today: Maison Crivelli Iris Malikhân, Bvlgari Orom]

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This episode features the ultimate anti-aging ingredient: a concentrated dose of Nostalgia. Today we’re taking a trip back to middle school (sorry) with the six GAP Scent fragrances. Yes, THOSE fragrances. We deep dive into six of the originals, pulling apart what makes them so unique, so iconic, and why they’re seared into our collective consciousness. And best of all, we’ll clue you in on how you can get your hands on them (because they never really left). [Fragrances Mentioned: GAP Heaven, Grass, Dream, Dream More, So Pink, Om; Britney Spears Hidden Fantasy]Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

What smells repel and attract us? What does Love™ smell like vs what love actually smells like to us? Why are so many for men fragrances so bad? Why does cum smell like bleach? These questions and more are presented and circumvented on our third annual Valentine's Day episode.

[What we smell like today: Margiela Replica On A Date, Imaginary Authors A whiff of Wafflecone]

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Eleasium's mystically oceanic and intuition-formed debut scent is a single perfume oil inspired by dark, cold water, pomegranates, mermaids, seashells, pearls, and...attachment theory. We have Courtney Brunson, founder of Eleasium (and our former colleague from xoJane days) on this episode to chat about her career in brand copy and product development, moving to Paris, and making her first fragrance, Attachment Oil.

[What we smell like today: Margiela Replica Coffee Break + Afternoon Delight, Bianco Profumo Remix]

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There are certain fragrances that carry connotations of the types of personalities who wear them loud and proud. And for those unfortunate few fragrances who did nothing wrong other than hang around the wrong crowd of certain men about town... they have come to be the  aromatic warning waft for the fuccboi™. For reasons unknown to all but the marketing teams behind their mass success, these certain fragrances are implicitly known by anyone with a beating heart as the scent of fuccbois. Your hosts discuss what these scents all have in common, how egregiously they have proliferated toxic masculinity, and our own traumatic experiences with these top offenders.

[What we smell like: Marc Jacobs Daisy Love, Escentric Molecules M+ Iris]

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We go through a broad catalog of the celebrity fragrances we grew up with, and the evolution of the modern celeb fragrance format. Also:

• A lil catch up with what's new from some  of our fave brands
• Is butter a gourmand
• Being romantically chaotic
• But not professionally chaotic
• New York City smell destinations
• Aluminum is bad for your brain apparently
• But saunas are good
• Who do we want to make a celebrity fragrance?

[What we smell like today: Bvlgari Dolce Estasi, Juliette Has A Gun Not A Perfume Superdose]

 

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It's another bi-annual Q&A for your hosts. Things we cover in this mid-2022 edition:

• how to be a beauty writer
• do we clean our own homes?
• red flags
• green flags
• (one frags, two frag)
• quit your job
• sable still cannot fully smell things
• scents we like
• scents we don't like
• makeup we like
• makeup we don't like
• thick smells
• don't be dry
• don't subscribe
• the importance of tact
• the importance of being in love with us
• etc

[What we smell like today: Being Frenshe Cashmere Vanilla, Kilian Adults]

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What is the perfume spray threshold? How many sprays do you spray? We asked, we researched (went on Reddit), and we sprayed, all in the interest of Sprayology™ (not to be confused with anything remotely involving science). 

[What we smell like today: Snif Crumb Couture, Diptyque Eau Nabati]

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Your hosts go back in time, and then forward, and then back again, and a bit around... to recount how they got into fragrance, with what fragrances and when, and how they have all come to define the sophisticated, broad, and omniscient palette of scent that they both possess today ;)

[What we smell like today:  Le Labo Tonka, Le Labo Thé Matcha]

 

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We've got the D.S. in D.S. & Durga and the brand's perfumer, David Seth Moltz, to Zoom with us about how he and his partner Kavi Moltz went from a musician/waiter and architect (respectively) to create one of the coolest and most unique modern American perfume brands around. David breaks down our favorite scents from the line, scrambles our little bunny brains with some olfactory knowledge, and explains how starting their fragrance brand isn't all that dissimilar from starting a band. Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Another bi-annual round of AMA Q&As submitted by our dear and loyal SYL listeners. We cover all sorts of topics, including career stuff, beauty products that are just OK, Tynan's eternal scourge with Santal 33, things to buy, things not to buy, the capitalist success paradigm, and other things of absolutely no libelous nature whatsoever. Get to know a bit more about the SYL hosts... six months after they did one of these interrogation episodes  previously. 

[Fragrances mentioned: By Kilian Rolling In Love, Atelier Cologne Musc Imperial]

 

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Everyone knows that when you start smelling that sweetly tropical scent of sunscreen on everyone's skin, summer is officially here. But what is that particular scent that we all seem to just know? We do a not-that-deep dive into our favorite sunscreen brands' telltale fragrances and get into what our favorite classic summer fragrances are for getting into all the kinds of trouble that only this hellishly horny season can enable.

[What we smell like today: Louis Vuitton On The Beach, Coppertone "Scent of Summer" (It doesn't actually exist as a product, sorry)]

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Deep in the Lower East Side, you will find New York City's own Temple Of Beauty, AKA Aedes Perfumery. The artisanal fragrance boutique has carried some of Europe's most elite brands under one roof since 1995. We talk to co-founder Robert Gerstner, who along with his co-founder Karl Bradl, opened one of New York City's most unique fragrance boutiques, which brings some of Europe's best artisanal scents to the states. Gerstner shares some fragrance-shopping insight, like why the coffee bean smell-reset thing is bullshit, what you should actually smell to neutralize your nose when testing lots of fragrances, and why you should get over fragrance shopping intimidation. Also, Naomi Campbell's eyedrops of choice. 

Also pertinent: Aedes De Venustas, the shop's house line of fragrances, offers some of the most exquisite scents this side of the Atlantic — a  bit of European sophistication and flair handmade in New York with the energetic attitude that this city imbues unto all those who dare make a name for themselves here.

[What we smell like today: Ex Nihilo Amber Sky, Gucci A Gloaming Night]

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We know it's 2021 or whatever, but we're starting off the year by dusting off this vintage gem from early days that we just...never published for some reason. Never too late to right a wrong! Recorded in early September 2020, this episode is all about the way scents have become pins in the maps of our lives, harkening back to places, environments, and contexts that employ the likes of SpaghettiOs, automobile paint, garbage water, hot dog carts, and much more as odor anchors in our travels. [Fragrances mentioned: Hermes Sur La Lagune, Tom Ford Lost Cherry]Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

In which we rank in order of what we like, Bath & Body Works' 12 best-selling holiday scented candles. 

We also address a listener question about our favorite household/unconventional scented product.

And talk about other things such as: all these new albums out suddenly, making scents with Persons Of Interest and Joya Studios, the latest D.S. & Durga studio juice, getting turned down by Le Labo, etc, etc, etc.

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[What we smell like today: By Kilian Gold Knight, Bond No.9 Chelsea Nights]

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Your spoiled hosts have been holding out on you. We get SO many scents sent (jinx!) to us that we often don't have time to discuss them on the pod without derailing the whole episode. So this is an episode dedicated to the scents (fine fragrance and otherwise) that have enchanted and captivated us as of late.

[What we smell like today: Elorea Heaven, Marissa Zappas X Liara Roux Whore]

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In which we list off fragrance discovery sets we like/are good/worth it for you to explore a brand and collect as many tiny smells for your personal collection and enjoyment. But not before a half-hour cold open featuring our thoughts about our writing careers, Sable being (problematically) sprung, Tynan's conflicted feelings about personal essays, and other bullshit you either love or hate.

[What we smell like today: Abel Pause, Imaginary Authors In Love With Everything]

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How do you create the smell of fear? We have just the person on to ask! Liam Findlay of Aroma Prime talks about how scents are used in immersive and entertainment applications like theme parks, amusement attractions, and museums to enhance the experience and shift the vibes – anything from stoking anticipation before a roller coaster to recreating a lifelike olfactory environment of a Viking hut.  He's also just released a children's book with a scent-focused narrative, called The Doomtown Dummies.

Episode rundown:

11:13 ~ Tynan smells like Parfums De Marly Althaïr

15:21 ~ Sable smells like Margiela Replica Autumn Vibes

25:25 ~ Our interview with Liam Findlay

55:05 ~ If we were ghosts what would we smell like?

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Oh, you like gourmands? Name five flavors. Le Monde Gourmand can give you dozens more than that. We have Ann Somma, chief brand officer of Tru Fragrance  & Beauty to chat behind the makings of your favorite retailers' fragrances (American Eagle, Anthropologie, Urban Outfitters, Wrangler Jeans...) and how one of those secret fragrances seen only in Urban Outfitters stores struck out to become its very own brand, now jumping to bigger retailers like Ulta, and developing its own following on social media with cute, edible (and French-sounding), and collectible scents.

 

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This is a jewelry and condiment podcast now. For one episode, at least. We have jewelry designer Jennifer Fisher on to discuss how she is Tynan's favorite jewelry designer and also her first upcoming scent based on her upbringing in Southern California and her dedication to condiments.

[What we smell like today: La Perla Let The Dance Begin, Christian Louboutin Loubicharme]

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It's our version of Spotify's Wrapped, featuring our most worn smells, most mentioned brands and scents, genres, artists (perfumers), and scents of the year. 

[What we smell like today: Mugler Angel Muse, Gucci A Chant For The Nymph]

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In light of viral articles, this episode is an abbreviated guide to fragrance etiquette according to your hosts. We cover wearing whatever the hell you want, removing the classism judgments from perfume, reserving one's prejudice for fuckboy scents, complimenting the way people smell (or not), and  other logical nonsense.

[What we smell like today: Marissa Zappas The Pink Bedroom, Escentric Molecules M+ Guiaic Wood]

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What's it like to be a perfumer? Is it like going to Hogwarts School of Whiffcraft & Whiffery? In some ways, yes. And in some ways...not no. Luckily, we have perfumer Marissa Zappas on to tell us about her journey into the olfactory arts, what it's like going from the corporate world of fragrance to carving her own independent path in scent sorcery, and why it's better to study for a smell test when you're ovulating. Find out more about Marissa Zappas at her website and on Instagram at @marissazappas.

[What we smell like today: Kayali Invite Only Amber, Commodity Velvet+]

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The mysterious, Canadian fragrance brand Persons Of Interest has a habit of popping up in all kinds of good-smell convos by those in the know. Their non-descript bottles bear compelling titles like Sex & Cigarettes, Buried Past, and Two Wolves that speak for themselves. We spoke with the brand founder Dino Caracciolo all about his initial successful men's grooming and skincare line, how a retail rejection prompted a revenge fragrance brand, and the takeoff success of that brand without  the traditional pushy marketing that so many fragrance brands must rely on for exposure. 

[What we smell like today: Aedes De VEnustas Corfu Kumquat, Byredo Bibliotheque]

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We're joined  by Kilian Hennessy to talk about the world of Kilian Paris, the sensuality and creativity in his perfumery, and what makes a really iconic scent. 

 

[What we smell like today: Kilian Black Phantom "Memento Mori", and Kilian Good Girl Gone Bad]

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If you've watched any beauty YouTube (or Instagram) in the past decade you're likely well aware of Huda Beauty. But the brand's co-founder Mona Kattan also has an extremely high-profile (perhaps the highest) side hustle with KAYALI, a very fancy fragrance brand. Perhaps you've heard about it from Tynan absolutely losing it over Sweet Diamond Pink Pepper in previous episodes, or more likely from Mona herself because she is much more influential than we, and also she runs the brand, obviously. 

Well, lucky for us, Mona has a new scent that's perfect for now (summer) and also forever! Utopia Vanilla Coco 21 (which Sable will undoubtedly refer to as UVC21), is Kayali's seventh fragrance and the antidote to a year+ long lockdown. She talks about bringing the scent to life and how Kayali got its start from her passion for scent and perfume, the immersive culture of fragrance in Dubai, and what it's like running a few of the world's  most beloved beauty brands.

[What we smell like today: Lisse Bo, By Kilian Good Girl Gone Bad]

 

 

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We all remember navigating the mall through the huge beauty floors (because you always had to enter the mall through a department store for some reason) where your friendly fragrance sales associates would be demo-ing the latest,  pungiest (you know what I mean), designer-iest fragrances. Well, we have always wondered what it's like to have one of the most glamorous jobs at the mall: perfume girl. So we decided to talk to one former fragrance demo (and current illustrator and artist extraordinaire), Lauren Tamaki, who has over 10 years of behind-the-counter experience shilling scents to the world (well the part of the world that visited Canadian department stores). Selling fragrance is not unlike speed dating — you're getting to know someone's desires and aspirations and what makes them cringe or go weak in the knees — all in just one sense. It is also not unlike a well-heeled territorial game of survival of the spritziest, as Ms. Tamaki tells us from her time on the sales floor. 

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[What we smell like today: Victoria's Secret Tease Crème Cloud, Burberry Hero]

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We have Courtney Rafuse, perfumer and founder of Universal Flowering on to talk about perfume for yearning and the romance of perfumery.

[What we smell like today: Korres Saffron Orris,  Universal Flowering Purple Afternoon]

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If you've ever wondered why scent isn't incorporated into other experiential endeavors like cinema, museums, reenactments, or  performance itself, you are not alone. However, Andreas Keller, owner and curator of Olfactory Art Keller  decided to make it real, with a downtown gallery in NYC dedicated to the art of smell. He tells us all about it in this episode, as well as how and why everyone smells things differently (something he learned from fruit flies), the trouble with smells, the lack of critical vocabulary around smells, NFTs: are they good or evil for art smells?, and how people interact with things differently once smells are involved. 

[What we smell like today: Lolita Lempicka Mon Premiere, Maluma Royalty Amethyst]

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Before the tomato-ssance, there was Flamingo Estate. Richard Christiansen's humble Los Angeles farm is where the vegetal scent trend gained the luxury home reputation. His home, place of work, and brand has quickly made a name for itself in all things farm-to-credenza, agriculture awareness, farmer-friendly, and salt (and herb, and flower, and vine) of the earth. Christiansen chats to us about the COVID-driven collapse of his creative agency that led to his rebirth as a farmer, the importance of ritual and ceremony, and how he personally texts and calls Flamingo Estate's top customers every week (if that's you, please text him back, it's not a bot, we swear!).

[What we smell like today: Orabella Nightcap, d'Anam Harvest Season] 

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It's the episode that we (mostly Tynan) have all been waiting for. We're doing Valentine's Day with an early surprise episode discussing scents of former lovers and former lives, a semi-accurate and entirely too broad discussion of aphrodisiacs, and...edibles? Grab a box of conversation hearts, don't you dare text your ex, and join us in celebrating the most wonderful time of the year. 

[What we smell like this episode: Maison Margiela Replica Lazy Sunday Morning, Byredo Seven Veils] 

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Here's a one-off special, a minor departure, a host-turned-guest episode where Tynan interviews Sable about her debut essay collection Die Hot With A Vengeance. We cover the process of the book deal, the writing of the book, the convoluted nature of our current beauty culture and the precarious positions we find ourselves in for its pursuit, and (almost) everything you'd want to know about the book of the summer — because it's officially out today! 

You can also find the perfume made for the book of the same name here, which we covered in a previous episode. 

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Peanut perfume, nuclear florals, textile accords, spiritual smells — these are a few directions perfume may be going in 2024 and beyond. Some of our predictions for this year have been spot-on while others are still cooking, and that is enough encouragement to keep us following our noses to give you another scent trend forecast for the next year to come.

[What we smell like today: Dedcool Sunlit Blooms, Persons Of Interest custom scent]

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What do our noses have in store for the new year? Lots of new smells, fragrance habits, new nomenclature,  where you'll be smelling things, how you'll be sharing scents, and who will be launching scents.

 

[What we smell like today: Phlur Tangerine Boi, Matiere Premiere Parisian Musc]

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Sex sells, but you can't fuck a fragrance. You can, however, fuck a celebrity (if you're lucky or maybe try really hard), and combining the two has been the standard for how to sell a fragrance since forever probably. The spokespeople are however getting kookier and by way of more interesting choices... hotter? Now that it appears that clout and a certain It-ness of cultural relevancy garner more intrigue and more dollars, the people in our fragrance ads are perhaps less familiar but wholly more inclusive and interesting. Anyway, all that and such, but we shall be using this flimsy structure of a topic to go on about hot people in fragrance ads. 

[What we smell like today: YSL Libre, Mugler Alien Musk Extraordinaire]

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Spring is canonically a season of bare knees, vitamin D-derived dopamine, crushes, and for many, the expiration of their winter and fall cuffs. An uncuffing season, if you will. In this yap-centric episode, we cover some of our foolproof 'get back out there' scents, and a whole lot of other scent-adjacent behaviors that put the sprung in spring. 

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We are catching up with a slew of new scents we've been smelling lately, including Kylie Jenner Cosmic, DS & Durga Black Magenta, Donna Karan Cashmere Collection, Fine'ry's shameless dupes, and more. 

Visual things we mention on this non-visual platform:

• Arabelle Sicardi on how Dupe Culture Is Ruining Everything
• The croissant charm necklace
• The new Kacey Musgraves Boy Smells candle

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Have you ever wondered how so many celebrities have perfumes? We have (obviously). So we asked Steve Mormoris, CEO of Scent Beauty and former CMO at Coty Beauty, how and why famous folks like Cher, Dolly Parton, and Beyoncé create fragrances—and how Lady Gaga's Fame perfume was originally meant to smell like sperm and blood (and whose sperm it was based on). 

[What we smell like today: Boy Smells Violet Ends, Almost Guilty Internal Affairs]

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Nothing against Fruits™... but we're yapping about new smells we've been smelling, these influencer scents, a new bar of banana-scented soap, visits to the Firmenich archives — you know, the regular stuff. We also answer a  Hotline listener query concerning scents for horny librarians ;)

 

 

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We are exploring "beast mode" fragrances as a concept, as a way of wearing scent, and as a trigger. It could very well be the antithesis of summer fragrances, just happening to have a resurgence in relevance as summer approaches. While we don't believe in seasonal scents, summer tends to have a hold on fragrance wearers' perceptions of the existence of summer scents as a concept. With respect to that, we discuss our favorite scents that go as long as the days are this time of year. 

[What we smell like today: L'Objet Oh Mon Dieu!, BDK Rouge Smoking]

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Pals in pod, Emilio Quezada & Evan Shinn, AKA  Dewy Dudes join us for our first roundtable on the eau dude scent, king behavior, and the collective trauma of Axe body spray. What are the dudes spraying these days? What's the difference between a hot-boi and a fuck-boi? What's a pick-me scent? What do they call Axe in England? All these questions and more are addressed in this episode. 

[What we smell like today: Lush Cardamom Coffee, Nomenclature Psy_Cou]

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There have been some events happening in the world that can be smelled and then thought about: The Fenty ParFUM: What it smells like. What it's made of. What's the deal with that logo. Also, Rihanna's government name is Robyn?? (It is.)  Also, all these scented stunt products from IKEA and Ford. Plus, some very fascinating and confusing scientific discoveries in a bug's nose about how olfactory receptors work -- that while being very exciting, we are not entirely sure what it means? But we're trying. And that's what matters. Sort of. 

 

New science about how olfactory receptors works: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-021-03794-8

That Ford Mach-Eau gasoline(a) perfume that NO ONE CAN BUY: https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/feu/en/news/2021/07/14/ford-mach-eau.html

[What we smell like today: Ex Nihilo The Hedonist,  Burberry Her]

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We have John Molloy, co-founder of MEMO Paris, Floraiku, and Hermetica, to regale us with the joys of creative partnership, the intricacies of creating three unique luxury fragrance brands, and the art of shadowing with fragrance. 

[What we smell like today: Vilhelm Parfumerie Faces Of Frances, D.S. & Durga Crush Balls]

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Atelier Cologne is not only a prolific collection of fragrances but also an olfactive retelling of the love story between the two founders, Sylvie Ganter and Christophe Cervasel. Can you stand it? Brand Ambassador and Atelier Cologne's first employee Ross Barry joins the pod to take us through the history of the brand from how it started, how they stay true to their nature-derived and environmentally sustainable practices, and how the brand keeps current in the increasingly competitive beauty and fragrance landscape. He also airs out the brand’s dirty laundry which of course, we love, and you will too. [Fragrances mentioned: The Nue Co. Forest Lungs, Tom Ford Costa Azzurra] Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Internet tastemaker, podcast superstar, and candle vlog darling, T. Kyle, joins us to talk candle vlogs, the formative (and homophobic) smells of his teen years growing up in New Jersey, and his most cherished New York City scents. He teaches us the 101 basics of candle lingo and how to stop your expensive candles from burning in that annoyingly wasteful way (you know the one). Binge T. Kyle's candle vlogs here: https://www.youtube.com/c/TKyleMacMahon/videos . [Fragrances mentioned: R.E.M. by Ariana Grande, Chanel Chance, Cloud by Ariana Grande, Mahogany Teakwood by Bath & Body Works, Thank U, Next by Ariana Grande, New Bond Street by Bond No. 9] Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

A little catch-up convo with the hosts, inventorying our recent scent faves, fave-nots, and what our scents of summer are doing the most (and the least). Plus:

• Sable learned that Martha's Vineyard is not affiliated with Martha Stewart
• Tynan remains in his Vanilla Era
• Why doesn't anyone respect vanilla?
• Sable bought big pants
• A new cherry bombshell enters the villa
• Trying so hard to understand Phlur
• How to antagonize a lover with cake
• The one "for men" fragrance we like
• The one "for men" fragrance we cannot stand
• Foundation is NOT dead
• Sable went on (another) date
• What is the scent of summer '22?

[What we smell like today: Calvin Klein CK One, Mancera Velvet Vanilla]

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When two scent podcasts collide... we have fellow New Yorker and perfume podcaster Emma Vernon on this week's episode to talk about all the behind-the-mic business of making a podcast, the uniquely weird and fun idiosyncrasies of talking about smells online. It's a good hang chat!

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It's a brand new year, which doesn't actually mean... a thing. BUT we do have our first episode of 2022 kicking off with our made-up scent resolutions AKA the "ins" and "outs" of smells and scents, plus, as it turns out, lots of things that have nothing to do with either. 

[What we smell like today: Elorea Fire, Maison Francis Kurkdijian Gentle Fluidity Gold]

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Guerlain perfumer Delphine Jelk joins us in this episode to chat about the "Guerlainade" way of perfumery, the importance of bees to fragrance, the legacy of Shalimar, and how Le Maison Guerlain has maintained its perfumery legacy for nearly 200 years.

Episode rundown:

0:00 ~ A cursory glimpse into making the Die Hot With A Vengeance scent 

13:30 ~ Sable smells like Future Society Floating  Forest

16:54 ~ Tynan smells like Paco Rabanne Fame Parfum

27:20 ~ Interview with Delphine Jelk

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Would you rather lose your cell phone or your sense of smell? Apparently, a lot of chuckleheads would be OK with losing their sense of smell. BUT! Did you know just how integrated your sense of smell is to your mental and physical well-being, your ability to sniff out an ideal mate, and experiencing a full spectrum of emotions (and flavors!) in 4kHD? Tim Apple could never.

Neurologist and smell-specialist Rachel Herz kindly blows our smooth little minds with heaps of information about just how underrated and underestimated the sense of smell is — like how pheromones are a myth, how you can detect various diseases and illness through body odor, how hanging out with babies and other pregnant women can make you more fertile, and how Big Brother may very well soon be using odor profiles to track us. Listen to this episode and never take your sense of smell for granted again! And then immediately go read Rachel Herz's books: The Scent of Desire, Why We Eat What We Eat, and That's Disgusting.

[Fragrances mentioned: Maison Margiela Replica Bubble Bath] 

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This episode has everything: Satanism, cinnamon-flavored colonialism, misogynistic food groups, and the Hamburglar. We take it upon ourselves to do a two-person roundtable of all things pumpkin spice and its reign over autumn in the North American hemisphere. In this episode, we give you a semi-accurate history of pumpkin spice lore, we talk about what we love about the ubiquitous fall scent, and then shit-talk everything about it that we don't, while calling out all the products that took it upon themselves to pumpkin spice themselves for the season. [Scents mentioned: Ex Nihilo Celeste Cuir, Lush I'm Home]Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Many-something years ago in a megamall complex far, far away... is where some of the most poignant scents of our formative years were found, sprayed, and burrowing into the recesses of our brains to forever timestamp those specific scents for probably ever. We're talking about our most nostalgic scents, name-checking the body splashes we built our identities around, and Tynan goes on a tangential rant about his distaste for deodorant (with some legit deodorant reccs, so it's not without its merit). Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Added fragrance in beauty products gets a bad rep these days. But given the likelihood that most products "don't work" anyway, may we at least reap some sensorial joy out of greasing up our slowly deteriorating mortal vessels with our little creams and potions, please? If you can slather it, we've smelled it, and this episode contains our favorite non-fragrance fragranced products. 

What else:

• Tynan doesn't know how to do laundry
• Sable is the worst rock star
• I'm a little lad who loves Botox and cream 
• The Ariana Grande Cloud Atlas Ultimate
• Sable was not a teenage klepto ;)
• Is there such a thing as a round fetish?
• No, I'm seriously asking
• The surprise best lip product for male-identifying makeup wearers

[What we smell like today: Diptyque Kyoto, Dior Vanilla Diorama]

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It's vacation season or whatever, which got us thinking about travel scents and the smells of some vacations we've had — you know, all those unfamiliar and exciting smells far from home. Tynan has a designated vacation scent, and Sable  likes finding new smells when elsewhere. Other tangents include but are not limited to: Why Pride month and all these dedicated months are a little cringe, "Clean girl" beauty, that D.S. & Durga NFP, country music, and something something conspiracy. So yeah, it's one of those episodes.

[What we smell like today: Regime Des Fleurs Tears, Cacharel Yes I Am Delicious]

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Did you know that ice cream does not have a scent? Neither did we. Well someone decided to do something about it, I guess, and here we are. Salt & Straw, premium ice creamery hailing from Portland, OR has teamed up with premium fragrance makers Imaginary Authors (also from Portland) to make edible fragrances you can spray on your ice cream to enhance the experience of your pint plundering. We tried to mute as much of the mouth sounds as possible in this experiential episode but we had to give you a live taste-smell sesh for the occasion.

[What we smell like today: Ex Nihilo Fleur Narcotique Extrait, Nemat Vanilla Musk]

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For our 100th episode, we're covering 100 of the best smells of all time, in no particular order.  This is part 1. 

[What we smell like today: StrangeLoveNYC DeadofNight, Kayali Vanilla Royale Sugared Patchouli 64]

 

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Before there was Secretions Magnifique, there were magnificent secretions — that aromatic cocktail made by one's own body-ody-ody and it has been dubbed "vabbing" (a portmanteau of vagina and dabbing).  Wearing one's own snail trail as a perfume to pull goes in and out of the zeitgeist, and thanks to TikTok it has been yanked back into it once more. Your hosts graciously, articulately, and elegantly explain the ins and outs of vabbing and its misleading philosophies with whatever science has found so far for us — including debunking human sex pheromones, destigmatizing vaginal odors, and other sensical items.

[What we smell like today: Golf le Fleur French Waltz, Kayali Vanilla]

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We interview Keta Burke-Williams, founder of Ourside, a NYC-based fragrance brand by outsiders for outsiders. 

Episode rundown:

~ 1:00 Sable still can't smell things

~  5:40 Talking about the Allure Best Of Beauty Fragrance award winners

~ 17:00 Fragrance book merch?

~ 19:40 Tynan smells like Victoria Beckham Portofino '97

~ 26: 06 Our interview with Keta Burke-Williams

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We have Alia Raza, founder of Régime Des Fleurs on this episode to talk about how she went from a video artist to launching a perfume brand, the romance of fragrance and scent, collabing with very cool friends, and what it's like to run a niche luxury fragrance brand without venture capital. 

[What we smell like today: Ariana Grande Cloud Pink, Mugler Alien Goddess Supra Florale]

 ~ 1 - 3 mins: Sable's adventures in sinusitis 

~  7 mins: Sable's book updates; editing is wild, writing is wild

~  15 mins: Critical thinking in beauty culture is wild

~  21 mins: Tynan, what do you smell like today?

~  26 mins: Sable, what do you smell like today?

~ 32 mins:  Interview with Alia Raza

~ 1:03: That was cool, OK bye

 

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A little post-autumn, pre-winter catch-up episode featuring all the new celebrity scents we have not smelled yet, the new non-celebrity scents we have smelled, the Black Friday of it all, Thanksgiving of it all, Sable's first visit to the ER, Tynan in peak 'changing my mind' era, and predictions and forecasts for the fruits and vegetable scent trends to come. 

[What we smell like today: Boy Smells Cameo, Phlur Father Figure]

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Two of our favorite contemporary independent perfumers Marissa Zappas and Courtney Rafuse (of Universal Flowering) have teamed up to create Gumamina, a new fragrance concept brand that launched with the swan duo Odette and Odile.

[What we smell like today: J.LO Glow, Tom Ford Vanilla Sex]

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Commodity was one of the first fragrance brands to launch on the Internet, pioneering the fragrance DTC model. And then, a few years after its launch, it vanished. Quietly, suddenly, tragically. And now... IT'S BACK. The re-founder and CEO Vicken Arslanian joins us to talk about rebooting the beloved brand, breathing new life into it without changing its DNA, and even Commodity 2.0's debut scent.

 

[What we smell like today: By Kilian Roses On Ice; By Kilian Angels’ Share]

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One could argue that music and fragrance are parallel art forms, especially when you realize that so much fragrance language borrows from music (notes, accords, compositions). And sometimes they become one when people sing about perfume, name-dropping certain fragrances or simply smelling in song. In this episode, we discuss the songs of smells that we are aware of and a whole lot of ones we are not. 

[What we smell like today: Ex Nihilo Iris Porcelana, Hermes H24]

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It's been a minute (three weeks) but due to unforsmelled circumstances, we took a little-medium break. But now we're back on the very same bullshit that we are known and loved for: talking about smells we like. In this very casual catch-up chat, Tynan and Sable discuss new scents they like, new scents they would like to smell, and the beginnings of what is shaping up to be a Scentboi Summer™ (you heard it here first). That's pretty much it. This one bounces around quite a bit, which may cause listeners with pivoting sensitivies  some minor anguish. But for everyone else,  it's pretty much the same oversharing and oversmelling you've come to expect.

[What we smell like today: Boy Smells Cowboy Kush & Cashmere Kush, Celine Black Tie]

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Whoever said never meet your idols never told Tynan, who has manifested such a meeting with none other than mega influencer and scented candle queen, Jackie Aina. Excuse the jittery energy, as we get into it with our girl, who's had a prolific career, from dropping out of college, joining the army, dominating YouTube, interviewing the president of the United States (!!!) and of course, launching cheeky candle brand, FORVR MOOD.

 

[What we smell like today: Idolette Venus, Lake & Sky Midnight 07]

 

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Welcome to Smell Ya Later's inaugural episode. Your hosts, Tynan and Sable talk about their fragrant backgrounds, why writing about and describing fragrance is so complicated, why they started this smelly podcast, their current TOP THREE SCENTS, and some other stuff, too. It's the first episode, had to get all this housekeeping out of the way first, you know? Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

One fragrance brand we give a lot of (deserved) lip service to is Ellis Brooklyn. And now we finally have brand founder and NYT beauty journalist Bee Shapiro on this episode to talk about how the brand came about and its evolution into the new fragrance landscape.

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Dark Rum. Cannabis. Peppermint. No, not the remnants of a hotel room Hunter S. Thompson just checked out of — these are some of the Hall of Fame scents slung by the chic and minimalist lifestyle brand Malin + Goetz. Peek into any shower in a 1BR in Chelsea and chances are you've seen a bottle of Malin + Goetz body products. Chances are you and your S.O. have fought over and then shared said body products, replenishing in equal measure, to keep the bottle count low and the suds plentiful. We talk to the eponymous founders about how and why they created a simple, elegant, and functional solution to bathroom clutter while elevating the entire concept of putting stuff on your body at all with the most invigorating and memorable scents. [Fragrances mentioned: Tom Ford Bitter Peach]Find more info, episodes, and merch at Smellyalater.live Leave us a voice message on the SYL Hotline at Speakpipe.com/smellyalater and we may respond on a future episode. Follow us on Instagram @smellyalater.mp3 Leave a (nice) comment & (5-star) review wherever you stream, and if you feel so inclined, respond to our Spotify episode prompts please!😇 As always, thank you for listening <3

Imagine only being able to make a perfume when the raw materials are in peak season. That's how April Gargiulo developed Understory, the singular perfume oil from her brand Vintner's Daughter. A year after its original launch, it's back again—round 2—with some slightly evolved aromatic tweaks. This is how a winemaker creates a perfume oil.

[What we smell like today: Victoria's Secret Bare Magnolia, Mindgames Sisa]

 

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We finally did it. Our  obsession with celebrity fragrance brings us to interview queer pop icon Haley Kiyoko about her first fragrance Hue. Two years in the making, it's being released into the world like... tomorrow, but not after a slew of ideations on how to create the kind of scent that feels like a "virtual hug." Before you ask, it's made for everyone by which we mean, it's made for anyone needing an aura of safety and security where one can feel their most authentic. So yeah, that's pretty much everyone, right? Haley talks about what it's like being a queer pop artist in a mainstream space, her favorite scent memories, and why music and scent are such powerful means of expression.

[Fragrances mentioned: Mugler Angel Nova, MIX:BAR Tangerine Squeeze and Blackberry Tonic, Ex Nihilo Honoré Delights]

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It's been one whole American year for Smell Ya Later. 49 episodes later, we've decided to celebrate and commemorate ourselves  by foisting our opinions onto our listeners once more using the most official and indisputable format we know of: an awards show. We thoughtfully penned the categories and have selected the winners with the gravitas and focus of red-pill-blue-pill methodology. We would like to thank our listeners for tuning in weekly to this very important, innovative, and groundbreaking audio program. We could not do this without your enablement. 

[What We Smell Like Today:  Abel Cobalt Amber, Le Labo Santal 33]

The Awards:

Most problematic fragrance

The Frank Voekl award for best skin scent

Best celebrity fragrance that isn’t Cloud

Most triggering scent

The Glow by J.Lo award form most nostalgic fragrance

Best Fuckboy Scent

Worst Brand

The Sky Ferreira Award for most underrated fragrance or brand

The Shit on Shit Award

The award for best smelling product

Best smelling man

Best smelling men’s product

Best fragrance product that’s not a fine fragrance

Celebrity we wish would do a fragrance

Best spiral

Best cloud

Biggest spray

Smelliest Smell

Rihanna Award For Most Hyped Smell

Best Attempt

Sexiest Armpit

Britney Spears Award For Best Comeback Brand

Yeezy Award For Sucking Up The Most Air In A Room

Mariah Carey Award For Best Note

The Honda award for best accord

Most Influential Smell

Best Feeling To Smell Things To

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