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23 Jun 2021Alice Ko: Why is focusing on your strengths important?00:53:53

I am excited to welcome my fabulous guest, Alice Ko, a businesswoman, an entrepreneur, and Strengths for Teams coach. She founded a remote digital marketing agency, Pivot six, and for the last 15 years, she was building businesses and working with teams around the globe.

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To start, Alice shared with us her daily routines and healthy habits, as well as the story of her early life as a child of Chinese immigrants in Canada and the beginnings of her career. She early recognized her ability to assess the moment and look into the future. Working with different teams, she realized that at the end of the day, whatever you do, it all comes down to the people you are working with. This encouraged her to become a coach for teams.ย 

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We talked about how focus moved from projects to people in the last decade and how to fill the gap between different generations. We agreed that the secret is in micro-shifts.ย 

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Alice taught us about CliftonStrengths methodology. Many studies and research have shown that a set of strengths makes an individual unique, so everyone should focus on their strengths instead of weaknesses.ย 

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Using the example of an overachiever, Alice showed us how the methodology works and what people with achiever strength can do to avoid burn-out, which is a natural result of overusing this strength.

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We talked about the range of skills and how some of the best leaders choose their coworkers to make success even more certain. We also reflected on the past year and what changes Alice noticed happen in teams.ย 

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Alice shared how she decided to start working remotely from Colombia four months a year. She also talked about learning and choosing the right content. Right now, she is learning about philosophy, blockchain, and cryptocurrency.ย 



Key Takeaways:

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Introduction (00:41)

How does your day start? (02:24)

About Alice's early life (03:13)

When did you decide to become a coach? (07:20)

What shifts did you notice while coaching teams? (11:20)

Generational differences in teams (13:20)

About CliftonStrengths methodology (16:00)

About overachiever (22:04)

About strengths partnerships (24:44)

Specialization vs. a range of skills (28:41)

Observation on teams in 2020. (34:25)

About Colombia and working remotely (38:57)

Ongoing learning and passion in your life (44:30)

What is the best advice you have been given? (48:46)

If you could have coffee with anyone, who would that be? (53:15)



Additional Resources:

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Follow Alice on Linkedin

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Learn more about Pivot six

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Find the book "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World" by David Epstein

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

12 May 2021From dating site to British Empire Medal with Mike Bandar00:43:29

I am delighted to welcome amazing Mike Bandar, a serial entrepreneur, a founding partner of Turn Partners, the start-up studio focused on the acquisition, turnaround, or creation of digital businesses.

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Mike is telling a story of his entrepreneurial journey, how he started from a young age(13) and developed and scaled multiple businesses. He is sharing what he learned during the way and how it helped him be more resilient. Mike is embracing the concept of staying in the learning zone and constantly improving.


He has received various awards and accolades including being awarded a British Empire Medal from the Queen of the United Kingdom for his coaching and training work within entrepreneurship and a Doctorate of Science (DSc) for his contribution to enterprise and entrepreneurship.

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Through Turn Partners, Mike co-founded Hopper HQ the Instagram planning and scheduling tool, working with thousands of influencers, brands, and agencies around the world. He is also co-founder of the fast scaling platform Waybook, a tool for business owners and senior leaders to easily document their systems, processes, and know-how which become highly effective onboarding, training, and reference material for teams.

Key Takeaways:

  • Introducing Mike Bandar (00:33)
  • Where does your energy come from? (04:44)
  • Are you born to be an entrepreneur? (07:00)
  • Ground zero - The early wins are the bestย  (10:13)
  • Mikeโ€™s view on being an entrepreneur - Is that something anyone can do it? (11:45)
  • Exploring the model of co-founders in Mikeโ€™s businesses (15:26)
  • Highs and lows in Toy Boy business - what were the outtakes? (18:40)
  • The digital world - which direction consumers should take? (23:01)
  • How are you safeguarding the privacy of your customers? (26:40)
  • Importance of setting personal challenges (29:36)
  • Finding your learning zone (33:50)
  • Mikeโ€™s words to young people coming out of university or school in this peculiar time (36:04)
  • What has been the best piece of advice you have ever been given? (39:16)
  • If you could have coffee with anyone, who would that be? (40:33)

Additional Resources:

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Follow Mike on Linkedin and visit his website

Learn more about Turn Partners

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

26 May 2021Challenging yet magical journey of an entrepreneur with Sahar Hashemi00:44:49

I am beyond excited to welcome Sahar Hashemi, my first entrepreneur guest who successfully built a coffee company. She started as a lawyer, but soon she and her brother founded the Coffee Republic, the first UK chain of coffee bars. After scaling and successfully selling it some years ago, she identified the new market segment - sugar-free sweets and founded Skinny Candy.ย 

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She is a claimed author of two books - a bestseller "Anyone can do it" translated into multiple languages, and her latest "Startup forever."ย 

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She is also a renowned speaker on international platforms, a multi-award winner including an OBE for services to the UK economy and to charity, and on the board of the Scale-up Institute.

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Sahar shared a story about why and how she turned her love for coffee ritual into a successful coffee bar business. She remembers her first market research and a moment she found the gap that needs to be filled, but also how she learned that people hate new ideas until you make them tangible.

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We reflect on the differences between building a startup and running a company as two completely different roles and how selling a fully grown business feels like.ย 

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Sahar shared her thoughts about the process of writing a book about her entrepreneurial journey and then entering another one with Skinny Candy.

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She believes women make amazing entrepreneurs because of their natural qualities: we are the perfect consumer, we are emotional about what we do, chatty, multitasking. All those qualities are actually qualities that make a great entrepreneur. This inspired her campaign "Buy Women Built" to support female entrepreneurs.

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Sahar advises people with business ideas never to ask others for validation but try to make it happen. As you make it happen, you will figure out whether or not it's a great idea.ย 

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Her advice to those women who fear starting their own business is just to go for it because women are obviously the answer, especially in this pandemic recovery time. They should have confidence and use their feminine power because the economy needs more women.



Key Takeaways:

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  • Introducing (00:30)
  • About the idea of starting a coffee business (03:32)
  • How did a lawyer decide to become an entrepreneur? (10:32)
  • Are there things you would do differently now? (18:02)
  • About book writing process (23:25)
  • Going back for more: starting the Skinny Candy (25:49)
  • The new venture is coming (29:13)
  • Sahar tips on exposing an idea (33:33)
  • What is shifting for women in business now after Covid? (37:44)
  • What is the best piece of advice you've ever been given? (41:38)
  • If you could have coffee with anyone, who would that be? (43:28)

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Additional Resources:

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Follow Sahar on Linkedinย 

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Learn more about the Coffee Republicย 

Find Sahar's booksย 

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

02 Jun 2021Entrepreneurship is about leaving the safety blanket behind with Dr. David Jack00:38:20

On the show today, we have spectacular Dr. David Jack, one of the new-generation medical doctors who have become pioneering health and wellness entrepreneurs. He pursued a clinical career in plastic surgery and aesthetic medicine worldwide before landing in London, where he runs his own clinic. In 2018, he launched Dr. David Skin Care based on the demand of clients. Along the way, he launched a number of other exciting businesses in the health and wellness space.

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We talk about what happened with our skin last year. David has noticed a change in how people feel about it because they focus on skin health more. Since we spent so much time in front of Zoom, we are more aware of how our skin looks, and David explains how blue light coming from our screens affects our skin.ย 

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David shared with us consumer trends in the world of skincare and how coming back to normality reflects on his business. He generously gave us advice on choosing face UV protection and what quality indicators to look for in a product. He also talked about skin aging and health in general and how to reverse the damage that happens to our skin.

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We have heard about David's road from being a successful plastic surgeon to becoming an entrepreneur. He talked about his experience of launching a product line and how he decided to take a leap and become an entrepreneur.ย 

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David shared his career challenges with us, such as being judged, doing marketing for health and wellness products, and formulating new products, which is a time-consuming process. On the other hand, he is super excited about growing his skincare brand, new products he is working on, launching in the US, and, of course, about his book "Vain Glorious: A shameless guide for men who want to look their best."



Key Takeaways:

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Introducing (00:50)

What happened to our skin during the Covid-19 pandemic period? (02:42)

Longterm consequences of increased screen time (04:29)

Do blue light filters really work? (07:13)

Consumer trends (08:08)

Myths in skincare world: UV protection (11:22)

Anti-aging (16:05)

The genesis of Dr. David Jack product line (18:40)

What made you take the entrepreneurial leap? (25:00)

What was the biggest challenge for you? (28:49)

What are you passionate and excited about today? (32:17)

What would you've been doing if you weren't doing this? (35:01)

Who or what has been the biggest inspiration in your life? (35:56)

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Additional Resources:

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Follow Dr. Davids work on various channels

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Learn more about Dr. David Jack Skin Care

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Find the book "Vain Glorious"

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

21 Apr 2021From Great Britain athlete to Forbes-recognized businesswoman with Kike Oniwinde00:27:31

I'm excited to welcome Kike Oniwinde, founder and CEO of BYP network and the winner of many awards. You can find her on all lists that matter, such as Forbes 30 Under 30, 25 Leading Black British Business People To Follow, Computer Weekly's Most Influential Women in UK Tech, and 100 Bame leaders influencing the tech sector. Also, she is a former professional athlete.

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We talk about the year 2020 and how Kike and her business ended up thriving instead of just surviving.ย 


Kike is taking us back to the beginning of her career and tells us the story of how her dream of becoming an Olympic champion evolved into something else. She remembers the time when she first thought: "where are all those black professionals?"

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Kike talks about how competitive sport made her what she is today, especially the "I could do better" mindset. She adapted to her later entrepreneurial career.ย 

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We talked about the 2020 challenges for both athletes and entrepreneurs, wrapping up with ways for leaders to find more time for themselves.ย 

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Kike shared with us what keeps her going and what she is excited about in the future.ย 



Key Takeaways:

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Reflecting on the previous year: fundraising, growth, team expansion, innovation, and initiatives. (2:31)

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How is business conducted online? (6:36)

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Beginnings of Kike's career (8:23)

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How are you coping with challenges? (15:38)

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How do you find time for yourself? (18:53)

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Looking out in the future, what are you excited about? (21:39)

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Superpowers (23:19)

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Lesson from the last year (24:54)



Additional Resources:

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Follow Kike on Linkedinย 

Learn more about BYP network

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

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29 Jul 2021How Native American Green Entrepreneur Robert Blake launched a solar enterprise00:34:24

In this weekโ€™s episode, I had the pleasure to talk with Robert (Bob) Blake. He is a tribal citizen of the Red Lake Nation of Ojibwe Indians and the founder and CEO of Solar Bear, a solar installation company based in the US, in Minnesota.

Bob shared with us how he got inspired to start the company after a personal family tragedy that profoundly changed his life. Like every great entrepreneur, he identified a problem and went about finding the solution. He decided to combat climate change by creating renewable energy microgrids and harvesting solar power.

Once he started the business, Bob engaged the community through non-profit projects and youth education programmes. He provides previously incarcerated citizens with training and a chance for a second act in their lives, engaging solar energy and a goal of fighting climate change with an opportunity to start a new life. We talked about his circular approach and commitment to a circular economy - he believes that healing is in the environment and that saving our planet is also saving our people.

Robert is a passionate, knowledgeable pioneer and a true advocate of changing our children's future. โ€œThe kids are going to have to be prepared for the climate crisis and we donโ€™t want them to feel like they donโ€™t have the tools to deal with it,โ€ he said.

He inspired me and I hope he will do the same for you!

Key points of discussion:

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Introduction (00:32)

Key facts about fossil fuels and renewable energy (02:50)

The genesis of Solar Bear - How and why Bob started his company (05:00)

How did the renewable energy industry evolve and what was the response of your community? (09:15)

Bobโ€™s circular approach - Healing is in the environment (11:04)

Non-profit work with former inmates - saving the planet by saving people (16:56)

How have Bobโ€™s origins formed him and made him who he is today (20:12)

What was the biggest influence on you from being in the Native Nation while growing up? (25:28)

Have you experienced the โ€œAmerican dreamโ€? (27:29)

What are the things you are excited about? (29:10)

If you could have coffee with anyone, who would it be and why? (31:50)



Additional Resources:ย 

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Follow Bob on Linkedin

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Learn more about Solar Bear

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website




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19 Jan 2022There Is Absolutely Nothing Wrong with You | Gerad Kite00:32:59

My guest today is Gerad Kite, internationally recognized as an acupuncture master and a fertility expert. Gerad trained in five element acupuncture of which he is now a master and teacher based in London. He started the first-ever NHS acupuncture service in the UK in 1993, based at King's college hospital, predominantly working with patients with AIDS and terminal illnesses.

Gerad is a renowned author. His latest book 'The Art of Baby Making' came out in 2020, and he has gained a reputation as the daddy of all fertility experts. Gerad has gone through much change in his life and enabled many to make lasting change in theirs. His discovery of acupuncture was a true epiphany and in our conversation, he tells me all about that moment and the life-changing journey he embarked on.

I loved learning about his early approach to work and his rigid mindset, how limiting that eventually was and how somewhere like San Francisco in the 80s could offer such a world of liberation and change. Gerad reminded me that we are so often more programmed to think and behave in a certain way than we realise. And that something, often is about taking a risk. โ€œIt doesn't have to be a big risk but take a step outside of the box and take a risk,โ€ he says.

Points of discussion:

(00:00) Introduction

(01:44) What was it like to leave London and move to San Francisco?

(04:53) How did you change your mindset and go into acupuncture?

(09:11) Five element acupunctureย 

(11:39) After the years of training and practice in acupuncture, what shifted in you?

(18:09) How Gerad became a fertility expert

(22:03) What are seasons teaching us about changes in life?

(25:19) How to get back to the mindful living

(26:00) Why do people struggle with change?

(28:26) One piece of advice from Gerad

(29:15) Future focus and plans

(30:09) Key takeaways by Dee

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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

28 Mar 2024Frances Atkins, legendary chef on resilience building at any age, never looking back and trusting your instincts00:35:28

You will love my guest, Frances Atkins, mega chef and Second Curver.ย  She shares her incredible journey to becoming to a renowned British chef.ย  We discuss her early passion for cooking and her determination to follow her culinary calling despite societal expectations. From starting as a dishwasher in a male-dominated kitchen at the Box Tree restaurant to honing her skills in renowned establishments across Europe, Scotland Frances shares her relentless pursuit of culinary excellence and the key life learnings she adopted on the way. She puts passion at the centre of it all, "passion is the driving force behind any successful career. If you truly love what you do, it will fuel your perseverance and dedication."ย 

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We also discuss some of the pivotal moments in Frances' life, including her temporary retirement after getting married and her subsequent realization that she couldn't stay away from the kitchen. Having gone through many second curves, Frances emphasizes the importance of trusting one's instincts, being brave in the face of challenges and never looking back.ย 

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Forge forward is her mantra!ย  Frances would love to welcome you to Paradise with FR&J at Daleside in Harrogate.

Guest contact info:
Instagram | Website

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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12 Aug 2021Fashion tech start-up,Whering, champions eco-friendly consumer experience00:38:53

Today it is my great pleasure to introduce Bianca Rangecroft, the founder and CEO of Whering, the fashion tech app that allows you to digitise your wardrobe and see and style what you own.

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Bianca spent the first 4.5 years of her career in Banking at Barclays and Goldman Sachs in London. She worked on two big fashion IPOs, which is how she got a feel for this industry and began exploring demographics and how the sustainability pain point was evolving. While working on the Stitch Fix IPO, she started thinking about how she could harness machine learning to democratize the personal styling landscape.

Bianca explained that her route into the sustainable fashion space really stemmed from being a frustrated consumer: โ€œI wanted to help Millennial and Gen Z users, like myself, escape the buy-use-dispose model, but I had a hard time finding access to sustainable styling advice.โ€


She decided to resolve the โ€œI have nothing to wearโ€ dilemma and took the leap and started her entrepreneurial journey in 2020. Her app, Whering is designed to help people rediscover what they already own and empower conscientious consumers to do better with their wardrobe and buy in a way that is more eco friendly.ย 

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Key points of discussion:

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Introduction (00:32)

If you could have coffee with anyone, who would it be and why? (00:53)

Why Bianca decided to build a fashion tech app (02:11)

Why clothes are so fundamental (04:57)

How is the Whering app empowering conscientious consumers to do better with their wardrobe (06:11)

The effect of fast fashion and our societiesโ€™ desire to consume (10:35)

Sustainable innovations in fashion(13:43)

What have been the biggest challenges in building a sustainable brand? (17:59)

Biancaโ€™s hardest moment in the business (24:27)

The biggest challenge in the sustainability entrepreneurship journey so far (30:31)

What was the greatest piece of advice you have been given (33:56)

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Additional Resources:ย 

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Follow Bianca on Linkedin and Instagram

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Learn more about Whering

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

15 Feb 2024An Entrepreneurial Journey: Exploring New Second Curves with Tom Arden00:57:18

Tomโ€™s entrepreneurial journey has been nothing short of inspiring. His transformation from a biology student to a thriving entrepreneur who co-founded PENGARNA has been a tale of determination and sheer hard work. Yet, what strikes me most about our conversation is his decision to step back and take a much-needed break from the business.

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Tom shares his reflections on the evolution of his work life. He talks about the intense effort that went into the launch and growth of PENGARNA, as well as the incredible learning period in the agency's early years.

My conversation with Tom serves as a reminder that life isn't a straight line and that sometimes, taking a step back, recognising the special seeds of talent and brilliance within us can lead to leaps forward and getting on to the next second curve. His unique perspective on work, identity and personal growth left me, and hopefully, you with plenty to contemplate.ย 

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In all our busy lives, we can learn from Tom to press pause occasionally, reassess our direction, and most importantly, not shy away from stepping off the beaten path. Remember, it's the detours that often lead to the most exciting discoveries and the next second curve.

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I look forward to catching up with Tom in a few months and seeing where his next second curve takes him. You must join us to hear all!ย 

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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11 Apr 2024Navigating a Good Divorce: Insights and Wisdom from Sarah Armstrong00:44:42

My guest is the fabulous second curver Sarah Armstrong, a trailblazing businesswoman and author of the book "The Mom's Guide to a Good Divorce: What to Think Through When There Are Children Involved".ย 

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Like many couples, Sarah and her husband faced challenges that led to her considering divorce. They both knew it was not an easy decision, but they were determined to make the best out of the situation, especially for Grace. Sarah witnessed ugly divorces among friends and knew she needed to approach her own situation differently. As a result, she focused on making Grace the priority throughout the process.ย 

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We discussed her book, "The Mom's Guide to a Good Divorce: What to Think Through When There Are Children Involved," and how it became a powerful tool for many people going through similar situations. The book provides practical guidance and emotional support for parents and Sarah stressed the importance of compartmentalizing emotions during this challenging time. She recounts how her daughter Grace's innocent and wise remark about a "good divorce" became the catalyst for writing the book.

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Sarah is on a mission to change society's perception of divorce and to promote the concept of a divorce should not define one's life negatively and that everyone deserves happiness and fulfillment, regardless of marital status and with the right support can find a way to move forward.ย 

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Guest contact info:
Facebook | Website



We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

07 Dec 2021How a near-death experience shifted my path | Cassius Rayner00:43:09

Cassius Rayner is a multi-award winning filmmaker, writer and lecturer. His passion is producing film content using iPhones, capturing stories globally on a variety of social issues. He embraces new technology and runs workshops in smartphone video.ย  He is the founder of the Go Film It, a video production company and also He is also a lecturer at ScreenSpace Ealing Studios in mobile filmmaking.ย  ย  Most recently he won the award for Best Short Film for Dead Eye at the Stockholm Film Festival.


Cassius has been working as a camera operator and director in film since 1992. He was 30 years old when his life suddenly changed, when he was stabbed by two youths in South London.ย  They hit a major artery and he would have bled to death had it not been for an off-duty nurse who found him and saved his life.

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Points of Discussion:

Introduction (00:00)

What passed through your mind during your near-death experience? (01:45)

How did you feel about life during the recovery process? (05:18)

Did that trauma send you into a new direction? (07:24)

How did you emotionally cope with recovery? (08:24)

What did you learn about the gangs and these sorts of behaviours? (11:11)

Career pivot and the work with marginalized young people (19:45)

Mobile filmmaking and opportunities that come with new technology (29:05)

How has Covid affected you and your work (32:35)

How do you feel about change? (36:04)

What are you looking forward to? (37:38)

Key takeaways (40:45)


If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com
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07 Mar 2024Unpacking the Journey of Self-Transformation with Tracy Woodward00:36:20

I am so excited for you to hear in direct from my incredible and inspiring guest, major Second Curver Tracy Woodward, a trailblazer of the beauty and wellness industry. Get ready for some practical learning on self-talk, the importance of telling yourself you can and why self-care is truly healthcare.ย 

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Tracey is a highly respected titan in the world of wellbeing. She is an industry thought leader, sits on multiple boards and is an active investor in the space. She is also Co-creator for Kalmar.ย 


Tracy's journey from working on a beauty counter to becoming a renowned wellness expert is a testament to her resilience and determination. Starting out, Tracy's curiosity and deep connection with customers and their well-being set her apart.

Personal hardships led to a fundamental shift in Tracy's perspective, and she took action by prioritising her health and making significant lifestyle changes. Her journey improved her physical health and wellbeing and radically strengthened her confidence and self-esteem.

Tracy and I discussed beauty, wellness and personal growth. She shares her insight and wisdom on finding real purpose in life and emphasises the vital need for focus, โ€˜a lack of focus means that you'll have a lack of determination, you'll have a lack of tenacity and you'll have a lack of energy for life.โ€™ย 

Put your seatbelt on and take notes!!

Use code SC35 for 35% off products at https://kalmarlifestyle.com/

Guest contact info:
Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn


We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

30 Jun 2021Meet The Entrepreneurs00:05:53

Meet Entrepreneur

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Hi everyone, we have already reached the end of season one. I hope you've enjoyed hearing about the incredible journeys and stories of my guests, entrepreneurs of all ages and stages. They shared great insights on how to be a better leader, a more efficient manager, a more determined businessman, and how to create meaningful products and businesses. They also examined how business can help motivate social change. We discussed topics such as leadership, trust, communication, reinvention, ideas, motivation, delegation.

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In today's episode, I wanted to share some of my personal highlights which I hope you will love listening to.ย 

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Thank you for listening and stay tuned, next week we will start with season two "Meet the Environmentalist".


Additional Resources:

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Follow Dee on Linkedin

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website



08 Nov 2021Christine Handy Cancer disruptor00:49:40

The story of how extreme health issues led to a life-changing epiphany

Today I am happy to welcome
Christine Handy, mother, model, humanitarian, cancer survivor, and author of โ€œWalk with me,โ€ a novel based on her experiences of dealing with multiple cancers and soon to be made into a film. Today she devotes her life and energy to supporting, helping and motivating others.

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Christine told us the story of her health challenges right from the moment they started. After her first surgery, it took her a year to recover. She realised her illness was a wake-up call.

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After her second surgery, Christine had a complication and noone, including doctors and family believed that she was unwell. She shared with us how this impacted her emotionally. When she finally got a second medical opinion, the infection was so bad that she needed urgent surgery.ย 

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Christine also shared the story of how she first discovered she had breast cancer and fell into deep despair. Her life and her career as a model had been built on how she looked and external considerations. With the passing of time, she found courage and rebuilt her trust in others and started to have self-esteem for the first time. She also realised that her life purpose was to help others.ย 

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After all of the hardships she went through, Christine wrote a book about her experiences which is being made into a film and became a motivational speaker. Her trauma transformed into creative fuel. Among many inspiring projects she is working on, Christine designed a swimsuit line for women that had mastectomies.

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Points of Discussion:

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  • Introducing (00:42)
  • The impact of health challenges and the moment it started (01:15)
  • At what point did you recognize that you wanted to shift something in your life? (04:52)
  • Complications after second surgery (06:09)
  • How long did it take to recalibrate from that experience? (13:36)
  • How did you cope with ongoing crises? (17:40)
  • About self-talk (20:32)
  • What did you learn about yourself? (22:54)
  • The moment when things started to shift (24:23)
  • The moment you felt ready to go forward (29:25)
  • Do you think this world has moved on in terms of women and how we feel about ourselves? (36:25)
  • Tips on focusing on yourself (39:02)
  • What is the advice you give people who are in moments of pure struggle? (40:41)
  • How to find your purpose (42:42)
  • Who has been a guide for you? (44:43)
  • Big and exciting things ahead of you (46:08)
  • Key takeaways (47:52)

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Additional Resources:

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Follow Christine on Instagram

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

03 Mar 2022How Mental - Inspiring Story of Social Entrepreneur George Taktak00:36:00

George Taktak and I had a fabulous high-speed conversation about the highs, the lows, and the challenges of humanizing and scaling mental health support. We also discussed how George's creative talents, he is both an artist and a poet, contributing vitally to his high growth business and his wellbeing.

George is an entrepreneur, mental health activist, and founder of How Mental - a social movement of more than a quarter of a million people whose mission is to make mental health care accessible to all. The Genesis for How Mental started some years ago, born out of Georgia's own struggles and his experience of a harrowing mental pain.

He was so beautifully honest and inspiring to talk to. I am always amazed by his passion, his knowledge and his refusal to accept the status quo.ย 

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Points of discussion:

Introduction (00:00)

Georgeโ€™s experience of working as a bankerย  (03:01)
Dealing with the loss of a family member (05:31)
How did George turn the corner and started his next step on the journey (11:54)
How is he supporting himself today (16:04)
View on isolationism of technology (21:35)
Growth of How Mental movement (23:27)

Role of creativity (27:25)

The biggest moment of change/epiphany (30:24)
Takeaways by Dee (34:21)



If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

02 Feb 2022Powered by Plants: Vegan Campaigner and Ultramarathon Runner Fiona Oakes00:35:30

Fiona Oakes is renowned as a British endurance runner and vegan athlete. She is the fastest woman in the world to run a marathon on all seven continents and the north pole. She has competed in over 100 marathons and set five marathon course records around the globe, including the Antarctic Ice Marathon.

Fiona has been vegan since the age of six. She participates in endurance sports to demonstrate that her diet is not prohibitive to performance and to raise awareness of her Tower Hill Stables Animal Sanctuary, which she founded in 1996. At her sanctuary, she cares night and day for 500 rescued animals to which she has devoted her life.

She has some really important things to say about โ€˜modern veganismโ€™ and was a sage reminder of the fact that, like all things, a choice to do better for others is often very simple. Itโ€™s only that, as humans, we make it complicated.ย 

Thank you to Fiona for sharing her incredible life story with us all this week. I hope you will enjoy hearing from her as much as I did.ย 

*** If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com I would love to hear from you!

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Points of discussion:

(00:00) Introduction

(02:44) Fiona reflects on though childhoodย 

(05:13) What changed to get you running?

(06:45) The genesis of Fiona's veganism

(14:10) Moments of change during the North Pole marathon

(18:33) What have you learned about yourself(20:47) What has changed in veganism from when you started promoting it?

(24:55) What does luxury mean to you?

(25:44) What does the change mean to you?

(27:43) What have you learned working with the animals all these years?

(31:03) Fiona's advice to a person that feels a bit stuck

(33:18) Key takeaways by Dee

23 Nov 2021Change Requires Courage |How Emma Slade became Buddhist nun00:45:02
I welcomed Emma Slade, who after studies in Fine Art went into banking, becoming a successful financial analyst. Some years ago, she was in Jakarta on a business trip when she was held at gunpoint. After this profound trauma, she went on a journey which led her to make some fundamental changes in her life. Emma shared the story of how the moment of intense fear made her aware that she wanted to do more with her life. It changed her priorities and gave her the sense that being alive is not to be taken for granted.

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She talked about how yoga helped her in the process of letting go of many things and of the role that Buddhism played in her life from a young age. In 2014 she has ordained a Buddhist nun in Bhutan.

Points of Discussion:

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  • Introducing (00:52)
  • The change after trauma (01:31)
  • About yoga, meditation and Buddhism (04:30)
  • How do you keep the continuity? (10:53)
  • Do you believe in chance? (11:50)
  • Becoming a Buddhist nun (12:54)
  • Epiphany of motherhood (14:04)
  • About happiness (20:49)
  • Advice for the people who are trying to escape the prison of themselves (22:30)
  • About change and uncertainty (26:10)ย 
  • How do you use your previous experience in your work today? (29:27)
  • How can people find purpose today? (35:33)
  • What is your biggest concern in the world today? (38:06)
  • The question people ask you the most (40:02)
  • Key takeaways (42:17)

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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

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26 Jan 2022Extraordinary Journey from Inmate to Fitness Entrepreneur | Coss Marte00:35:30
My guest today is Coss Marte born and raised on the lower east side in New York, the son of Dominican immigrants and raised by a single mother who struggled to support her family.
21 Mar 2024How to unleash the Power of Transformation at Any Age00:35:25

My guest is the fabuIous Second Curver Bobbi Parker Hall, fitness entrepreneur and wellness coach who shares her inspiring journey and how she motivates individuals of all ages to become the best version of themselves. Bobbi shares some of her second curving secrets which I hope will also motivate you.ย 

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We cover all bases on challenging times from the menopause to major upheavals in her marriage. Despite the obstacles, Bobbi discovered strength through fitness and exercise, which became her guiding light. Bobbiโ€™s story is a reminder to me and hopefully to you of the power of perseverance, the importance of pushing past self-doubt and crucially, learning how to invest in ourselves so we can shine.ย ย 

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We touched upon the stigma surrounding ageing particularly for women and the need for society to embrace the fact that women can be beautiful and vibrant at any age. Age 50 is the new 30. Bobbi also talks about her latest second curve, as she goes through a new moment of growth and transformation which is so life-enhancing to hear about. โ€œPatience is the name of the game when you are transforming.โ€ย 

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Bobbiโ€™s story will inspire you to take risks, embrace change and second curve. Her unwavering determination serves as a powerful reminder that it's never too late to embark on a new chapter and make positive changes and that the most important thing is to believe that you can do it. "It's just stepping into that empowerment and then all of a sudden, things just open up for you."

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Guest contact info:
Instagram | Facebook

We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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15 Apr 2021Welcome to Double Espresso With Dee00:02:33

Hi, I'm Dee Stirling, a storyteller, a lover of languages and language. I am also a businesswoman and co-founder of the Centre for Entrepreneurs. Welcome to my podcast, Double Espresso with Dee. Over coffee, I will get curious with my guests about their journey in business and in life, and how they practice living courageous, creative, and interesting lives. In my first series, I will be talking to some incredible entrepreneurs both new and aspiring, and those who have been down the road for years about their stories and their journeys.

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15 Dec 2022Life After Prison: Ex-Inmates Deserve Redemption00:02:57


Today we will look back to our interview with Coss Marte, an ex-inmate who is now a successful entrepreneur and founder of ConBody.

Speaking to Coss has been so incredible. His raw honesty, incredible journey, and desire to make something good out of something so bad has been very moving. During our interview, we touched upon a wide variety of issues, but the one story that stayed with me was our discussion about redemption. Coss shared with us how hard was to start from scratch when he was out of prison.

โ€œGiving people a second chance that was one thing that I was struggling with when I came home.โ€


โ€œThree felonies on my record โ€ฆ It was like a stamp for life. So ConBody was basically born out of desperation,โ€ he said.


In this short excerpt from the interview you will hear his thoughts on inmate redemption and what could society and large corporations do to help bring them back to positive ways once they are out.

08 Jun 2022How to Navigate through Radical Life Change | Emma Slade00:10:40

In this 10 minute short, we discuss change, how to accept it, embrace it, and flow with it as part of life and part of growth.

My guest today has known and navigated radical change. The Incredible
Emma Slade was a high flying financial analyst when her life took a massive turn. She was held at gunpoint in Jakarta. Emma survived, and coming out on the other side, she went down a long road to a new way of living. Today, she is a Buddhist nun.ย 

Emma tells me about this extraordinary life-changing moment, and how she knew she wanted to do something meaningful with her life. She shares with us her thoughts on handling change, making change, and finding our own unique direction in life.

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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

11 May 2022The Truth About Taking Risks In Life | Gerad Kite00:13:38
Many of my guests have talked about the importance of taking risks to show yourself what you're made of and grow in every aspect of your life. All of them believe that if you play it too safe, you will miss out on the many adventures and opportunities that life brings. I always say, give it a go take the leap. What is the worst that can happen?
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My dear friend and guest, Gerad kite is a big proponent of going out of your cosy zone and taking a risk. Many years ago within a space of a few weeks, he left behind a successful business in London, which he built in his early twenties and moved to San Francisco with one suitcase and nowhere to stay. Today we will hear how he was feeling while taking a risk and changing his life.

Over the coming weeks, we will launch the Double Espresso With Dee shorts. 10-minute podcast episodes with key soundbites from my amazing guests. We will revisit themes that matter to you, risk, letting go, overcoming adversity, embracing failure, making a change, identity, how to be you and many more.

If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

Visit my website: https://dee.biz/
19 May 2021Female financial future with Tamara Gillan00:46:23

I am very happy to introduce you to my guest today. It is spectacular Tamara Gillan. She is a serial entrepreneur, a warrior for female empowerment and equality, founder of two award-winning agencies (including Cherry London), and founder of The WealthiHer platform.

She is also a major change agent, award winner, a speaker - I would say an action girl.ย 

Tamara shared with us the genesis of The WealthiHer network. She accepted the challenge of women's economic empowerment, and the network was launched in a record time of just six months. They did massive research to find a deep understanding of gender economic differences, but also values, motivations, and needs behind women's financial decisions.ย 

We talked about female entrepreneurship, leadership, and managing female-dominant teams. We discuss how working from home affected our professional habits and what we can learn from the working environment during Covid.ย 

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Key Takeaways:

Introducing Tamara (1:05)

About The WealthiHer network (3:20)

What happened after starting a movement like this? (8:11)

What have you learned from this experience? (13:02)

Challenge of remote-working women (18:19)

What are exciting focal points for your team right now? (21:25)

Tamara's life in partnerships (25:20)

How do you make a game plan? (27:12)

Beck to the time Tamara launched her first business (28:53)

What are the big things going on in your life today? (33:59)

How do you manage different aspects of your life? (36:09)

The piece of advice in the new world order (42:16)

If you could have a coffee with anyone, who would that be? (45:20)



Additional Resources:

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Follow Tamara on Linkedinย 

Learn more about Cherry London and The WealthiHer network

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

27 May 2022How To Fail Forward and Be Proactive with Sian Sutherland00:10:48

One of the subjects that comes up time, and again is failure. In this short, I discuss failure with the epic and spectacular Sian Sutherland. She is a serial entrepreneur, having launched a branding agency, set up a restaurant that in short order had a Michelin star and built an innovative global skincare business, which was subsequently sold to the hut group a few years ago. Sian leaned into her calling and co-funded A Plastic Planet, a global campaign organization with a single goal to ignite and inspire the world to turn off the plastic tap for good.

With Sian, we unpack the brilliance of failure, embracing what we don't know and being our own unique selves.

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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

05 Feb 2024Second Curvers Trailer00:01:46

It is never too late or too early to be who you want to be.

Second Curvers are a growing community of people who see life as a flow, embracing new roles, new jobs, new challenges and being themselves, rather than standing in line and comparing themselves to the person in front.

To second curve is to embrace a radical reinvention. The only thing it requires is the courage to act and step into the unknown. One little step. Anyone can second curve. Second curving is not defined by age.

Are you in your twenties in a job you dislike? Are you retired and bored? Are you stuck in a rut and canโ€™t see a way out? The biggest barrier to getting on to the next curve is You! Second Curvers podcast is all about WORK!

Our new podcast launches on Tuesday 6th February.

Are you a Second Curver, ready to be ignited?

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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25 Oct 2021From neonatal nurse to inspirational rugby player | Zainab Alema00:45:24
I am happy to welcome Zainab Alema, known as Zee or The Bulldozer. In 2020, she was named the Sunday Times Grassroots Sportswoman of the Year. The year before, she set up Studs in the Mud, a charity providing equipment and funding to help and encourage women to play rugby.ย 

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Zee is a British-born Ghanaian, a wife, and a mother of three very young children. After her career playing rugby and working at night full-time as an intensive care neonatal nurse, she is now focused on rugby full-time, playing for Richmond, and aspiring to represent her country.

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She has gone through much change and seeks to be an agent of change, breaking through stereotypes in the world of competitive sport and beyond.ย 

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Zee fell in love with rugby at the age of 14, when she didnโ€™t even know women played rugby. She has played ever since, with highs and lows along the way.ย 

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She was different from her teammates and at times felt lonely, so she nearly quit, but knowing that there are other black female rugby players in the world, such as โ€‹โ€‹Maggie Alphonsi, helped her keep going and move forward.

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Zee shared with us how she managed to create her own path, the one that no one took before her. Today things have changed and she plays in the most diverse team she has ever played.

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We talked about the importance of Ghanaian culture to Zee and how it adds another dimension to her identity. She explained her nickname Bulldozer, both as a rugby position and a metaphor for her ability to smash stereotypes.

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Zee also shared her biggest challenges and how she managed to find the balance in her life. Currently, she is working on her dream of playing for England, whilst inspiring many people of different colours, cultures and beliefs to chase their dreams as well.




Points of discussion:

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Introduction (01:25)

The moment you fell in love with rugby (01:55)

Almost giving up at University (03:06)

How did you find the physicality of being on the pitch? (05:38)

Did you ever want to no longer wear the headscarf in order to fit in? (08:13)

What sort of reception did you get as a young person on the field? (10:40)

Are people more inclusive and accepting today? (13:37)

Ghanaian tradition and background (15:31)

About smashing stereotypes (17:22)

Do you think you are re-inventing rugby? (20:06)

How do you feel when you are on the pitch? (21:45)

What was the biggest challenge for you? (22:18)

About balance (23:17)

What have you brought from your nursing career to the pitch? (25:16)

Being a role model (26:29)

Dream of playing for England (28:12)

How do you think taking the leap has changed you? (32:55)

Where do you think you will be in 5 years? (36:59)

Do we need more change? (38:50)

A piece of advice (41:20)

Key takeaways from the interview by Dee (43:00)

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Additional Resources:

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Follow Zee on Linkedin

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Learn more about Studs in the Mud

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

09 Jun 2021How Renna Brown-Taher started her jewellery business00:38:16

I am excited to welcome my friend Renna Brown-Taher, founder and creative director of Renna Jewels. She is a master of arts and gemologist based in NYC who decided to take an entrepreneurial leap and start her own business. Now she is taking over the world with her jewellery, featuring pages of many popular fashion magazines.

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She took us back to when she was nine and when the Renna Jewels collection started. She fell in love with one special kind of shell, Coffee Bean Shell, she used to gather at Laguna Bech, California, and treasure with her mother. When she graduated from Barkley, her mother presented her with a bracelet made of those shells. Wearing this bracelet she got many compliments of how great and unique it was, and that motivated her to start designing jewellery with seashell motives.

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She shared what makes a jewel special and the biggest challenges in the first days of Renna Jewels. She didn't know from the beginning that she wanted to be an entrepreneur. She just knew she wanted to be creative. So, figuring out business concerns was a step-by-step process for her. The moment when people from all over the world started buying the product was the most exciting one.ย 

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Renna shared with us that she doesn't hire anyone for any job until she has done it herself first. She also talks about ethics and sustainability as core values of her brand. Gold recycling, transparency about stone origins and mines, human rights are some of the key topics when it comes to jewellery.ย 

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We discussed the subject of laboratory-grown stones, which are in most cases harmful to the environment. Still, there are some carbon-neutral labs.ย 

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Renna considers herself as her target audience and always tries to make something she can express with. She reflects on last year and the changes it brought both to her customer and her business. At the same time, she has big plans for this summer.




Key Takeaways:

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  • Introduction (00:50)
  • The genesis of Renna Jewels (03:36)
  • How did you find what is unique about your jewellery? (06:27)
  • Challenges of starting a business (08:09)
  • What were you most excited about on this journey? (12:23)
  • Ethics and sustainability in jewellery business (12:58)
  • What is your opinion about stones grown in the laboratory? (18:53)
  • Who do you design for? (20:05)
  • Last year in your business (22:56)
  • How did you use your time differently last year? (26:24)
  • Looking ahead, what are you excited about? (28:50)
  • The biggest influences on your life? (32:15)
  • The most important learning from the corporate world? (35:24)
  • If you could have coffee with anyone, who would that be? (36:12)



Additional Resources:

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Follow Renna on Linkedin

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Learn more about Renna Jewelsย 

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

30 Nov 2021Surviving cancer was a life changing experience | Annee De Mamiel00:36:12
Today, my guest is Annee de Mamiel, world-renowned skin health specialist, and founder of natural skincare rangeย  De Mamiel - activated by science and designed to treat the impact of stress on the skin.ย  ย 

Annee de Mamiel grew up in rural Australia. And after an early career in the pharmaceuticals industry, she pivoted into finance and excelled as a trader on the financial markets. She also pursued her love of sport and became one of Australia's top women triathletes. Then, the sudden death of her dear mentor made her question her life and, as a result, she made some quick and drastic changes. Later, following her cancer diagnosis, she continued to change and evolve her purpose. Today we discuss her journey, her challenges, and her epiphany moments.


Points of Discussion:

Introduction (01:00)

Why the pharmaceutical industry? (1:29)

Highlights of finance career (03:45)

Time of career change (06:10)

Was it a risk to leave the world of finance and money? (08:05)

Cancer diagnosis and coping with it (09:05)

Changing aspects to survive (15:07)

Setting up a business and new road (19:15)

What have you learned about yourself by building a business? (22:45)

Interconnections between three elements and where does imbalance lie (24:30)

Annee's secret of living a healthy life (26:40)

How do you handle change, and how do you feel about it? (30:50)

What would you say to a 20-year-old self? (32:15)

Key takeaways (33:04)

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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

10 Feb 2022How Genocide Survivor Taban Shoresh Rebuilt Her Life and Became an Aid Worker00:44:34

My guest today is the incredible Taban Shoresh, a former child genocide survivor who suffered imprisonment as a four-year-old with her family, during the Saddam Hussein regime.ย 

Over time Taban adjusted to life here, but the trauma of her experiences never fully left her. She married at a young age and settled into her university studies and subsequent career. Little by little. She came to realize that the relationship she was in was highly abusive and she feared for her life once more. Somehow, however, she finds the courage to escape.

By 2014, she set up the Lotus Flower, a not-for-profit for women and girls impacted by conflict and displacement. Since its launch, it has supported ISIS survivors in three camp based centres. And to date has helped over 40,000 women and girls.

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Points of discussion:

  • Introduction (00:00)
  • Going back to Taban's childhood (02:43)
  • Coming to the United Kingdom (08:51)
  • Embracing both Kurdish and British culture during teen days (10:30)
  • Leaving abusive marriage (15:08)
  • Epiphany moment (24:09)
  • The genesis of Lotus Flower organization (32:27)
  • How does Taban manage her foundation and life (38:46)
  • Taban's advice on how to go through hardship (40:01)
    Closing words by Dee (41:58)




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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message at Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

04 Apr 2024Embracing Reinvention: The power of micro steps and taking the leap with Sahar Hashemi00:44:00

Sahar Hashemi is just the greatest!

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You will want to hear every piece of wisdom from ultimate second curver Sahar Hashemi OBE. A hugelyย  inspiring serial entrepreneur, author and speaker, she is known for her remarkable journey and contributions to the world of business and entrepreneurship. In her best-selling book, Anyone Can Do It, she advocates that anyone who really wants to be an entrepreneur can be one. We discuss the power of small steps and micro shifts in moving forward and how second curvers can apply her motto of leap and the net will appear. It is all about making the first step and not worrying about having all the answers.ย 

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Sahar shares her personal experience of following the beaten path, after a degree in law she joined a law firm but quickly realised it wasn't for her. She vividly describes her transformative moments and shares stories of her multiple businesses (Coffee Republic, founded with her brother and Skinny Candy) and Buy Women Built, the fast growing consumer movement she launched, shining a light on amazing brands built by women.ย ย 

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"The true high, the real joy, doesn't come from the end result or the fruits of your actions. It comes from being fully engaged in what you're doing, being busy and being in the flow every day."ย 

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Sahar's story serves as a testament to the incredible results that can arise when we have the courage to step into the unknown and create a life that truly resonates with who we are.

Sahar is the author of the entrepreneurship best seller โ€œAnyone Can Do It: Building Coffee Republic from Our Kitchen Table - 57 Real Life Laws on Entrepreneurshipโ€

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Guest links:
Instagram | Website

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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25 Aug 2021Tom Mustill: Environmental films that can truly make an impact00:36:52

I am delighted to have Tom Mustill as my guest today. He is an environmental director, producer, writer, the founder of Gripping Films. He creates stories, connects people with the world and some of the burning issues around climate. He made films for BBC, Channel 4, Channel 5, National Geographic, won many awards and worked with many pioneering environmentalists and scientists of our days and some of the legends like David Attenborough himself.ย 

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Tom shared the story of how he became a filmmaker. He is a conservational biologist who always loved documentaries about nature. So he decided to use storytelling as a conservation tool and started making films in 2006, first as a producer and later as a director. The first film he directed was Inside Nature's Giants for Channel 4.

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We talked about challenges Tom faced during filming and how he chooses projects that move him and that can move other people as well. He shared feelings he had when his films reached millions of viewers and described their impact on decision-makers and the general public. A story can be impactful in loads of different formats, and there doesn't have to be a call to action for people to actually take action.

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As we were wrapping up for today, Tom explained how the filmmaking industry can reduce carbon and plastic waste to become more sustainable and told us what film he would make if he knew it is his last one.

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Right now, Tom is finishing his book, and soon it will be available for readers.

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Key points of discussion:

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When did it all start for you? (01:17)

What was the first film that you put together? (03:24)

What have you seen that changed you as a person? How do you choose your projects? (08:40)

About the starting concept and the impact of Tom's films today (13:26)

Have you seen any changes in people as a consequence of your work? (23:09)

The most impactful films (31:10)

Sustainable filmmaking (34:44)

Who would you have coffee with if you could have it with anyone? (39:07)

If you were going to make one last film, what would it be about? (40:33)

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Additional Resources:ย 

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Follow Tom on Linkedin

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Learn more about Gripping Films

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

21 Dec 2021Reflections on inspiring stories of change and personal growth00:10:42
As Iโ€™ve discovered in the last couple of months, from speaking to all of my extraordinary guests, sometimes it takes a week to decide our destiny. Sometimes it happens in a moment. And sometimes itโ€™s an ongoing journey of discovery.

As we come to the close of another year, this is such a valuable message for us to remember. There is so much possibility ahead of us if we can only listen to our instincts, trust the process, lean into challenge and change, and not be afraid of our power.ย 

So my invitation to you today is to take my guests as your inspiration. To ask what is stopping you, to listen, truly listen to the answer, and then go forth into a new year ready for change.ย 

Thank you, happy new year, and I look forward to sharing more incredible stories with you in 2022.

If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

14 Oct 2021Change Sessions introduction00:05:20

โ€™m delighted to introduce you to season 3 of the show - Change Sessions. In this season I will talk to incredible people who've experienced huge pivotal moments of real change, by choice or by circumstance. From stories of reinvention and inspiring career pivots to the dramatic shifts that happen in moments of crisis. These sessions on change will explore how we feel at that crucial point of creating new lives for ourselves, and what we can learn from the experiences of others. I will be speaking to everyone from Buddhist nuns and Bollywood actresses to CEOs, adventurers, and authors. I'm excited and inspired to hear and share their stories. Together we will uncover the truth about what it takes to make a change and hopefully paint a picture for you of how we feel when our lives experience a transition. However big or small. The overwhelming message from everybody is that no matter what, keep walking, keep moving. Keep doing, keep changing. As we know, nothing happens if it remains an idea in your head.

โ€œFor what it's worth, it's never too late, or in my case too early to be whoever you want to be. There's no time limit. Stop whenever you want, you can change or stay the same. There are no rules to this thing. We can make the best or the worst of it. I hope you make the best of it. And I hope you see things that startle you. I hope you feel things that you've never felt before. I hope you meet people with a different point of view. I hope you live a life you're proud of. If you find that you're not, I hope you have the courage to start all over again.โ€ - Eric Roth




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Follow Dee on Linkedin

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Visit our website

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24 Mar 2022Healing Journey After Childhood Trauma | Pirie Jones Grossman00:46:32

My guest today is the incredible Pirie Jones Grossman. Pirie started working in L.A. and over the following 20 years became a well-known actor and then a very high profile presenter and TV host for E! Entertainment, Fox, NBC, CBS and ABC.ย  She was famous, fabulous, and part of an L.A. power couple. But privately, she struggled deeply after hitting rock bottom. Pirie left L.A. for good and settled in Sun Valley, Idaho. Over time, she broke through, found herself and decided to change her life.ย 

Today, Perry is an international bestselling author, a soul-centred, transformational life coach and TEDx speaker and co-founder and co-host of podcast Own Your Throne. I highly recommend reading her amazing book Conversations With Pirie: 30 Stories of People Who Reinvented Themselves

Today through her own experiences, Pirie works with clients to empower their life path, enabling them to learn and recover from their life events, and rise like a phoenix to fulfil their potential.ย 

I am sure you will love our conversation as much as I did.ย 

Points of discussion:

Introduction (00:00)

Going back to Pirie's early childhood (02:45)

Moving past childhood trauma (07:59)

Building the next chapter (10:37)

Pirie's first marriage (13:46)

Moving to L.A. and starting a professional career (15:21)

Second Marriage and suicide attempt (20:18)

Leaving LA (24:39)

Becoming a mother (28:54)

Road to reinvention (34:51)

Coaching as life mission (40:07)

Final words by Dee (44:23)



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If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

22 Feb 2024How Animals Asia Became a Force for Change and the power of not giving up00:50:12

I am so delighted to welcome Second Curver Jill Robinson and share her inspiring journey to end the bear bile industry in Asia. Her life changed in 1993 after a harrowing visit to a South China bear bile farm. Jill took a stand and launched Animals Asia, an organization committed to raising global awareness about bear bile farming and to ending it for good.

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We delve into the challenges Jill faced, navigating cultural and financial obstacles while striving for meaningful change. She emphasizes the importance of trust and collaboration and to not giving up, attributing the success of Animals Asia to these principles. Despite facing eviction campaigns and endangerment, Jill's commitment to respectful engagement has propelled Animals Asia from a five-member foundation to a 400-strong staff running sanctuaries, with plans for a third on the horizon.

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Jill shares heartwarming stories of the bears they have rescued. Looking forward, she envisions continued growth and impact, with plans to repurpose sanctuaries once bear farming is eradicated. Her story is a powerful testament to perseverance, being open to second curving despite obstacles and converting a seemingly insurmountable challenge into a global symbol of hope and transformation.

Guest contact info:
Twitter | Instagramย 

Latest petition to end dog meat trade in Vietnam

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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05 May 2021Life is too short to blend in with Sian Sutherland00:54:54

I am so beyond happy to welcome the legend - Sian Sutherland, a serial entrepreneur across many disciplines and sectors from advertising to Michelin-star restaurant, film production, and skincare startup. On top of all, her attention is now focused on the titanic problem of plastic. So she and her incredible co-founder launched the Plastic Planet.

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Sian shared with us the raw story of her beginnings. She was the first entrepreneur in her family and sort of a black sheep. Unlike her siblings, who had an academic future planned, she made her rocky road through life, starting with the first job at the age of seventeen. On the other side, she had an incredibly supportive family and total encouragement, which helped her become who she is today.ย 

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We talk about the importance of failures and how they made us more empathetic, grounded, connected persons. So, Sian re-branded the term "failure" into "growth." We need to applaud people for trying, and if they fail, we have to applaud them for having grown into that failure.ย 

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The first business Sian launched was a restaurant. She wanted to leave her job in advertising to start a restaurant business she had zero experience with, so she simultaneously did 3 jobs for a year. After that, she finally opened her restaurant.ย 

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This was a fantastic five-years-experience. Sian describes it as a rollercoaster. She also thinks that women are biologically adept at re-invention, so she got back to her marketing roots and started a branding and marketing agency.ย 

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We talk about the position of naivety and how empowering is the benefit of not knowing. This is something that has played a huge role in Sian's decision to build her next business - a pregnancy skincare brand Mama Mio. If you have a will, you will find a way. If you can run the restaurant, you can run the country.

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Finally, she left Mio too, and she talks about her feelings back then. That business was a part of her identity she loved. Still, she realized she had to jump off. At the time, she was asked to consult the board of Plastic Ocean Foundation. She advised them on releasing the documentary film "A Plastic Ocean" and realized this was her next thing.ย 

Sian shared with us the story of the very beginning of the idea behind the Plastic Planet. They wanted to give people a choice to buy something different, become free of guilt, and start prototyping the future.ย 

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She is aware that plastic pollution is not slowing down. Plastic Planet is initiating dialogue between important stakeholders and at the same time building a global resources library.

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Sian's message for people who are starting their business is: "Don't find a trend, find a need, or go even further - find a movement and build a community." She also has a question you need to find the answer to if you want to build a successful business: "How is it converted to sales?"

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"Life is too short to blend in," "Embrace your naivety as your superpower," and many other inspiring pieces of advice from Sian are waiting for you in this episode.ย 

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Listen to it until the end, and find out even more about how incredible Sian does her thing and still makes time for mini-breaks with friends and family.



Key Takeaways:

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Introducing Sian Sutherland (00:33)

The beginning: Sian as an entrepreneur - when did that start? (04:20)

What was your first job ever? (06:26)

At what point did you come to the attitude: "I'm going to give it a go because I have nothing to lose?" (09:14)

Re-branding the failure (09:55)

What was the first business you launched? (11:03)

How did you feel when you were exiting businesses? Leaving Mio (20:04)

Emotions of transitions: starting the Plastic Planet (23:35)

What was the first step for the plastic-free concept? (28:35)

Prototyping the future (33:01)

What is your vision for the next 6-12 months? (35:29)

What are the top tips you would give to people who are starting their business? (39:16)

How would you encourage young people to just do their own thing? (43:36)

Importance of mini-breaks and holidays (49:17)

What would you've been doing if you weren't doing this? (51:09)

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Additional Resources:

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Follow Sian on Linkedinย 

Learn more about Mama Mio and Mio brands

A documentary film on misuse of plastic - A Plastic Ocean

Learn more about Plastic Planet

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

28 Apr 2021The Power of Social Intelligence Insights with Jackie Cuyvers00:28:16

My guest is another incredible entrepreneur and my dear friend, Jackie Cuyvers. She is a tech entrepreneur and social intelligence expert. Jackie is also Co-Founder and CEO of leading tech company Convosphere, a social intelligence agency working with clients across a range of different industries.ย 

I have to add that she is also a mother of three. She is doing the MSc at Oxford University in the Social Science of the Internet and supporting young female entrepreneurs along the way.

In the beginning, Jackie explains what social intelligence is and how it helps businesses understand consumer behavior. They analyze public conversations that have already happened, and they do it globally in different languages.

We talk about changes made by pandemic experience and how social intelligence replaced traditional research technics such as focus groups.ย 

Jackie remembers how she evolved along with the tech industry and how her career combined art, science, and technology.

She shares her perspective on privacy and mass data collection and why she thinks that concern is misplaced.

Jackie encourages young people who are building businesses to try things out, prioritize and focus. She also recommends a book she recently read, "Delete: The Virtue of Forgetting in the Digital Age."

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Key Takeaways:

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Introducing Jackie Cuyvers (1:07)

What is social intelligence? (2:10)

Which sectors can benefit more from this type of technology? (4:15)

How pandemic experience influenced social intelligence? (6:31)

Privacy and cross-related clients matter (8:25)

What was the beginning for you in this industry? (10:23)

Looking to the year behind us in terms of privacy (13:56)

What would the Jackie-today say to the Jackie-15-years-ago? (17:28)

What have you learned through your life experiences so far? (19:22)

How do you see women entrepreneurship today? (21:17)

What is your secret for having the fullness of a life on so many fronts? (24:04)

If you weren't doing this, what would you be doing? (25:28)

Book recommendation (26:24)




Additional Resources:

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Recommended book - "Delete: The Virtue of Forgetting in the Digital Age" by Viktor Mayer-Schรถnberger

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Follow Jackie on Linkedinย 

Learn more about Convosphere

Follow us on Instagram

Visit our website

22 Sep 2021Tessa Hempson: We Have the Power to Make the Incredible Change00:49:42

Today I am excited to welcome a scientist and marine conservation specialist Dr Tessa Hempson. She is an ecologist, a coral reefs specialist, and a writer. She studied botany and zoology, conservation biology, and worked extensively across Africa. Today she is the Principal Scientist and Program Manager of Oceans Without Borders and at the same time an Adjunct Researcher at the ARC Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Studies at James Cook University in Australia.ย 

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During her PhD studies in coral ecology, Tessa even worked as a helicopter underwater evacuation instructor โ€‹โ€‹for the Australian Defence Force. She told us about this extraordinary experience and what she learned from it.

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We reflected on last year's challenges, especially those regarding connection with the community, which is crucial for Tessa's work. She emphasized the importance of building strong local capacities and shared how special it was to return to Africa after the lockdown.ย 

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Tessa took us back to her childhood, the experience of growing up in nature, and the moment she realized that studying oceans is her call.ย 

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In the ocean space, little things civilians can do to preserve nature can really make a difference. There are so many simple things we do in our daily lives, choices we make about tiny things that can make a huge impact. For example, reducing plastic usage, recycling, and being informed where our food comes from. Every time we spend money, we are creating a statement on creating consumer demand. So if we demand local products, we are directly impacting the amounts of carbon in the atmosphere. And there is, of course, voting and making your voice heard in the political space.

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Tessa shared her views on seafood consumption in western, privileged societies where there is a choice. Her advice is to get informed, eat less, and try to eat those lower species on the food chain, such as sardine, instead of predators such as tuna.ย 

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She told us about her life-changing experience of diving deep into the ocean in the Mozambique area, but also the terrifying one of witnessing the coral bleaching.

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A lot of environmental problems come from ignorance, and that is something we can deal with. Tessa is sure that there is always hope and that we have the power to make the change.ย 



Key Takeaways:

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Introducing (00:23)

Experience of working as a helicopter underwater evacuation instructor (02:20)

Over the past year, who would you have loved to have had coffee with and why? (04:46)

How has this last year been for you? (07:00)

What are the childhood memories that made you who you are today? (11:47)

When did you decide to focus on oceans? (15:44)

Where are you today in terms of your approach to environmental issues? (18:45)

What is your view on consuming fish? (22:53)

Hopes and concerns (27:46)ย 

Experiences that changed you (32:28)

Swimming with sharks (36:42)

The most terrifying experience (41:50)

How hopeful are you about slowing the process of coral bleaching? (44:17)

Where is home for you? (48:46)ย 

What is your big focus in the next few years? (51:47)

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Additional Resources:ย 

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Follow Tessa on Linkedin

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Learn more about Oceans Without Borders

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Follow us on Instagram

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Visit our website

08 Feb 2024Unlocking the Power of Everyday Creativity with Accidental Icon Lyn Slater01:12:18

I love Lyn Slater. That is it!ย 

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She is the ultimate second curver. An academic, an author, a model, a stylist and Accidental Icon, Lyn has appeared on the cover of world-renowned magazines and modelled for some of the biggest names in fashion and luxury including Valentino, Dior and Uniglo.ย 

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Lyn speaks about her journey from being an academic to becoming a global fashion icon. She emphasises the importance of embracing unconventional ways to express yourself, being open to new experiences and learning, and the ability to adapt and evolve, second curving from one role to another. Discussing her fashion journey, she explains how she started her blog as a creative outlet and to connect with women of all ages. She actively encourages everyone to start somewhere and emphasises the importance of experimentation.

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Lyn talks about the importance of authenticity in her work and how it has helped her connect with her followers. She shares how she has recently become more open and vulnerable, writing more intimately about her experiences and feelings.

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She discusses her perspective on ageing and the stereotypes associated with it in society and stresses the importance of challenging these stereotypes and embracing creativity and opportunities that come with at any age, always being open to getting on to the next curve. She comments, โ€œI have great respect for young peopleโ€ฆ and I think that normally when we talk about ageism, we think it's about older people, but it's also directed towards younger people 100%.โ€ย 

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Lyn shares her belief that everyone has creative skills in their everyday lives that they may not fully realise or utilise. She encourages listeners to embrace these skills and to see every experience as a creative challenge and opportunities to keep second curving. โ€œThe secret is I respond to everything that happens to me in my life as a creative challenge, as an opportunity to be creative in coming up with a response or a solution that is outside of the box.โ€

Lyn is the author of an amazing book โ€œHow to Be Old: Lessons in Living Boldly from the Accidental Iconโ€ that is going to be available from 12th March. You can preorder the book here: https://sites.prh.com/howtobeold?ref=PRHFF0250EC3180&aid=28914&linkid=PRHFF0250EC3180

Guest contact info:
Instagram | Website

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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29 Feb 2024How Not Knowing Can Be A Superpower? - with Sian Sutherland00:58:29

I absolutely love Sian Sutherland!

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In this episode I have the absolute pleasure of sitting down with serial Second Curver, the incredible Sian Sutherland, co-mastermind behind A Plastic Planet and PlasticFree. You are going to get some vital types for embracing what you donโ€™t know and how this can be your new superpower.ย 

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Sian has been second curving since her early twenties, guided by her instinct, her passions and applying โ€˜radical naivetyโ€™ and the spirit of why not to all her ventures. She has jumped in fearlessly since her first venture launching a restaurant, which won a Michelin-star restaurant within a year, without any prior experience and subsequently creating Mio, a globally successful skincare brand despite having no industry background. Her unyielding belief that not knowing something can be a superpower was simply awe-inspiring. "I think that radical naivety of not treading the traditional path and embracing the fact that you don't know things is really, really empowering."ย 

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We also touched upon the topic of retirement. She says โ€œI don't want to retire, and there is something about having to earn that gives you that bit of grit.โ€ She embraces the need to continuously earn and stay driven, always open to the next second curve. She also talks about the vital importance of grit. Unlike those who can afford to take risks without consequences, Sian sees every endeavour as a make-or-break situation.ย 

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Sian is a second curving powerhouse now on her next curve with anย 

unwavering commitment to making a positive impact with A Plastic Planet. She sees businesses as powerful agents of change in creating a sustainable future. Her belief in the potential of collaboration and her rallying cry for all of us to step up and protect our planet left me feeling inspired and motivated and I am sure it will too for you.

Guest contact info:
Instagram | Plastic Planet | PlasticFree

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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15 Nov 2021The unstoppable power of letting go - Our choices create our reality | Jill Sherer Murray00:43:42
Jill Sherer Murray is an author, award-winning journalist, life coach and founder of โ€œLet go for itโ€ a lifestyle brand that enables people to enhance their lives by learning how to let go of what is holding them back. ย 

Jill is the author of โ€œBig Wild Love: the unstoppable power of letting go,โ€ published in 2020. Her TEDx talk about letting go now has over 3 million views.

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Today we talk about how the changes in her life have forced her to look in the mirror and answer some very hard questions. Jill shared a pivotal moment when she decided to end a long relationship that wasnโ€™t working. Despite the pain, she learned that the biggest love story we have is ultimately with ourselves. Jill decided to throw herself into embracing change and taking true responsibility for her choices.

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Introduction (01:01)

The pivotal moment (03:05)

How did you adjust to the change? (06:52)

Why do you think human beings struggle with change? (12:27)

Moving forward, both physically and emotionally (15:55)

How did you change your approach to dating? (17:39)

How slowing down due to Covid affected us psychologically (20:25)

How to own your own choices (22:24)

The hardest part of change (24:25)

The fundamental role of instinct and intuition (30:27)

The powerful combination of loving yourself and letting go (35:42)

Advice for someone who is facing major change (39:11)

What is your mission in life today? (41:37)

Key takeaways (43:50)

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Additional Resources:

Follow me on IG: https://www.instagram.com/deedoubleespresso/

Visit my website: www.dee.biz

email: doubleespressowithdee@gmail.com

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14 Mar 2024Pivoting to Climate Tech for Greater Impact with Eliot Brooks00:45:25

I had the best time talking to Eliot Brooks, an amazing human being and serial entrepreneur. Eliot and I met a long time ago when he joined our programme at Centre for Entrepreneurs.ย  Eliot began his career in finance and technology before co-founding Thriva, looking for a solution to his own health problem. Today Thriva is a prominent UK home diagnostics company. Over 7 years as COO, Eliot helped scale the company to over 100 employees, with a turnover exceeding ยฃ150m. In 2021, he gained recognition on Forbes 30 Under 30 for Thriva's role in COVID-19 antibody testing. In late 2022, Eliot turned his attention to the climate emergency. He co-founded Cocoon, to focus on decarbonizing sectors like Steel and Cement, responsible for 14% of global greenhouse gas emissions.

Eliot is a true second curver, having successfully grown his first venture, he could no longer ignore his inner guide, sending him in a new direction to address a major challenge which he was passionate about. Again, he was brave and took the jump and he tells us how he did it here.ย 

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Eliot speaks compellingly and openly about risk-taking, resilience, learning from failure and aligning his passion with his work. He shares his views on how being an entrepreneur is more about working smartly and trusting your instinct, using the synthesis of learnings and experiences to lead you to the right decisions.

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To those wrestling with their current status quo, Eliot's advice is to embrace change. To figure out if a passion can be transformed into a venture, he suggests beginning by documenting and turning that into an outlet, a mode of self-exploration to guide that leap towards fulfilling entrepreneurship or a new path.

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You will love Eliotโ€™s story. It is a brilliant example again of how career progress isn't exclusively about a straight-line trajectory, but about leveraging lifeโ€™s cumulative experiences into something you are passionate about.

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Guest contact info:
LinkedIn | Website

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We would love to hear from you. Do send me a dm on Instagram (@secondcurvers) or email us at hello@secondcurvers.com

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23 Feb 2022Underwater Epiphany - A Story of How Eddeene Became a High Jeweller00:30:14
Itโ€™s a special joy to interview your friends, and I feel so lucky to have talked to ร‰dรฉenne today. She has such an incredible vision and the real grit to keep going, no matter what.

ร‰dรฉenne is a high jeweller having founded her jewellery house in Paris in 2003 after a major life-changing epiphany.

We talked about her life-changing experience and transition from businesswoman to a high jeweller. I loved her insistence that we have to keep looking for experiences all the time, not watching the trains go past, but jumping on the right one when it comes along. And her epiphany at the bottom of the lake is just such a hypothetical train. But it is also a testament to the power of nature and how the answers are always there, if only we were listening.ย 

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Nature plays a big part in her work - from the butterfly to ivy leaves and precious stones. And this links her own belief about trusting her instincts, thinking in her heart about what she wants to do with her life, and how she wants to enjoy it.ย 

We discuss her incredible story, this moment of radical change in her life and why we all need to feel the fear and embrace it because surprises await us.


Points of discussion:

Introduction (00:00)

Epiphany story (02:53)
Starting over - pursuing a new career (05:51)
The biggest challenges Edeenn had in the early years of becoming a fine jeweller (10:52)
The creative process (15:30)
Changing the personal name (18:05)
What excites you the most, today? (22:12)

Edeenneโ€™s advice to someone who needs to make the change (24:34)

If you could make one piece for one person in the world, who would that be? (26:42)
Takeaways by Dee (28:05)



If you have a question or feedback on the series send me a message on Instagram (@deedoubleespresso) or email me at doublespressowithdee@gmail.com

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