Recruiting is No Joke (Joel Lalgee)

Solo episode this week! I talk about recruitment content, social media strategy and answer questions from the audience.

Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

The job market is brutal right now, especially for folks in marketing and HR. Job scams are everywhere, AI is making things more complicated, and finding the right talent feels more competitive than ever. To top it off, some hiring practices are less than ideal, and many people are just not ready to leave their current jobs. It’s enough to make you wonder—are these so-called “ghost jobs” just setting us up for disappointment?

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," Joel hosts a solo episode packed with vital updates and insights. He starts by expressing gratitude to listeners and encouraging them to leave reviews. Exciting news follows: Rec Fest, a major recruitment event in Nashville, is just around the corner. Joel offers a discount code to make this valuable networking opportunity even more accessible.

Joel also introduces a new community platform tailored for job seekers, designed to provide essential resources and support. He gives a shout-out to podcast sponsor Source Whale for their impactful recruitment tools. Reflecting on a recent Google ad for their AI tool, Gemini, Joel highlights a growing concern: while AI is marketed as a time-saver, many professionals find it adds to their workload and stress.

In addition, Joel addresses the current job market, prevalent job scams, and the crucial role of remote work flexibility. He shares a poignant viral video of a young woman distressed by her high-pressure job, emphasizing the need for companies to cultivate empathy and support. Joel discusses how economic pressures, like rising inflation, contribute to workplace anxiety and stresses the importance of leaders checking in with their teams.

Tune in, stay informed, and don’t miss out on the upcoming episode with our exciting guest host.

In this episode:

• (00:03) Introduction and gratitude 
• (02:10) Rec Fest in Nashville and  discount code
• (02:36) Community platform for job seekers
• (03:09) SourceWhale Sponsorship acknowledgment
• (04:17) Discussion on AI and Google's Gemini
• (11:38) Job market insights
• (13:20) Talent pipelining
• (16:18) Walmart's return to office frustration
• (18:39) Corporate hiring trends
• (20:31) Anxiety in corporate culture
• (21:16) Impact of layoffs and workload
• (22:05) Inflation and employee stress
• (22:52) Empathy in leadership
• (23:41) Retention vs. job satisfaction
• (24:28) Community for job seekers
• (25:18) Closing remarks and gratitude

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Donald Knight is the CPO at Greenhouse Software. He leads with a people-first mentality hoping to unlock the potential of Greenhouse talent globally. With a laser focus on the connection between people and the processes that serve them, Donald and his team create proximity by building bridges focusing on enhanced experiences that nurture culture and develop people. He is responsible for providing global strategy and leadership in developing, overseeing, and administering people programs. Before Greenhouse, Donald served as Senior Vice President of Global Talent for Edelman, where he helped shape the HR brand as a proactive, insightful, and collaborative solution provider.

Destiny Quinn is currently leading the Talent Acquisition department at Material Bank - (no they aren't a bank) by providing situational coaching, and managing all aspects of delivery to ensure individual and team goals align with broader HR and overall company strategies and goals. Destiny has both agency and internal experience and is a wealth of knowledge. I can't wait to reconnect and chat about everything TA! Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.Join us as we discuss his journey and challenges and get his insights on the future of TA.

People analytics is a growing practice among companies but very few truly understand it, myself included.

From headcount planning to understand the performance of your team there's a lot to cover.

Tune into Wednesday's episode of Recruiting is No Joke where I'll be talking with Konstantin Tskhay, PHD to hear how he is working with companies on this very thing.

We will be discussing everything people analytics!

Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it live.

Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.

See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

If you don't know Tim, who are you? So looking forward to hosting this chat and learning about Tim's background, story, and thoughts on everything recruiting-related. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to a new Episode of Recruiting is No Joke, a podcast and liveshow dedicated to the TA industry. This week I welcome Kara Mignanelii. Kara serves as SVP of People and General Counsel for the Global Strategic Management Institute (GSMI), a leader in professional educational events and industry trade shows. In her role, Kara oversees multiple core functions of the business, including human resources, event production, and legal compliance. She has contributed to the growth of GSMI from corporate formation in 2008 to the creation, execution, and acquisition of industry-leading events and trade shows over the last decade. In 2011, Kara created one of the industry's leading talent acquisition events, the Social Recruiting Strategies Conference, which is currently part of Talent Acquisition Week, along with the Employer Brand Strategies Conference and the Talent Sourcing Strategies Summit. Kara is the Co-founder of Mignanelli Winery, a family-owned boutique producer focused on premium Pinot Noir with fruit sourced from Anderson Valley, Santa Cruz Mountains, and Santa Lucia Highlands. www.mignanelliwinery.com Kara is a proud alumnus of Rutgers University and Golden Gate University School of Law. She resides in San Diego with her husband and two energetic boys. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke Episode 14

A live show and podcast for recruiters and TA leaders.

There are two reasons, I am really excited about today's show.

We have Jane Curran - Global Head of Talent Acquisition at JLL. Jane leads a team of 300 TA pros that fills 30,000 positions a year.

She's been in recruiting since 1999 and previously worked with Accenture and Kohl's. I'm stoked to have this time to learn and hear her story!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

This week I welcome Joe Aburdene, Sr. Director of Managed Services from Findem AI: Joe has a 20-year career in the Recruiting space: - 14 years at Aerotek/Allegis - 9 years of staffing/services sales - 5 years in an operations and strategy role - 4 years in tech-enabled sourcing solutions leadership - 1 year of RPO sales - Responsible for delivering results across a wide variety of industries and skills nationally and globally Looking forward to hearing about his journey and what he is up to in the industry. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Krista Scarborough Tan has been in the TA space since 2008. She started in the Agency space and grew to the Head of Talent operations managing 40 Million in P&L. She then moved into an internal recruitment role and continues to coach and lead talent strategy at various startups. I'm looking forward to catching up and learning about her journey and her thoughts on the current market. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Welcome to Episode 6 of Recruiting is no Joke

I'm honored to have The one and only Brian Fink with me today -

Currently the Global Technical Sourcing Manager at Twitter, in the past he's worked with Apple, RentPath, and AWS.

On top of this Brian is a great follow on Linkedin for recruiters, he posts helpful and encouraging content and is a great representation of who he is in real life. (We chatted last Friday and I came away with actionable advice I've been using)

Brian is a true recruiting leader and influencer and I'm super happy we get a chance to chat again

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

On this week's Recruiting Is No Joke Show: I'm meeting with Riley Stefano She's currently with Datadog leading the Employer Brand Marketing Team. She's successfully tracked a 120% increase in the volume of inbound applicants. Prior to Datadog, she was at Hubspot working on employer brand content. I'm really excited to have this in-depth conversation with Riley and dig into the Employer brand.

Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Have you ever felt like searching for a job has become a full-time job in itself? With today's job market growing increasingly complex and brutal, it seems like every step toward securing employment is met with yet another hurdle. So, how do you navigate this treacherous terrain? And as an employer, how can you leverage platforms like LinkedIn to find the talent that stands out in this crowded field?

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we have the pleasure of speaking with Melissa Grabiner, a leading LinkedIn authority and talent acquisition expert. Melissa joins us to delve into the current job market and the hurdles job seekers are navigating today.

We explore the tough realities facing job seekers, including a notable TikTok video that highlighted the experience of one candidate who faced 1,623 rejections. Melissa offers her expertise on crafting a compelling resume and LinkedIn profile, the importance of proactive job searching, and the impact of authenticity in content creation.

We discuss the critical need for persistence, effective communication, and strategies for standing out in a crowded job market. Melissa challenges the misconception that using an "Open to Work" banner on LinkedIn makes candidates seem desperate, advocating instead that transparency about job searching is a strength.

Despite the current challenges, Melissa remains hopeful that the job market will eventually tilt back in favor of candidates. She encourages job seekers to stay resilient and proactive, emphasizing that leveraging networks and taking initiative are essential for navigating these turbulent times.

Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies for your job search. And don’t forget to subscribe to "Recruiting is No Joke" for more expert advice and career tips.

In this episode:

• (01:19) Introduction to Melissa Grabiner
• (02:46) Melissa's motivation for creating content on LinkedIn
• (05:49) The importance of authenticity
• (06:47) Monetizing content on LinkedIn
• (08:37) Building an audience takes time
• (10:51) Balancing multiple responsibilities
• (12:03) Melissa’s business helping job seekers  with resumes and LinkedIn optimization.
• (12:58) The challenges of content creation
• (15:08) Job market challenges
• (15:25) Reactions to a job seekers' story
• (17:40) Melissa's thoughts on job seekers' struggles
• (17:52) Importance of a strong resume and LinkedIn profile
• (18:47) Differentiating yourself in job applications
• (19:41) The value of follow-up messages
• (21:05) Proactive job searching
• (22:23) Shifts in job market dynamics
• (23:19) Candidate experience and ghosting
• (24:20) Candidate experience insights from UPS
• (25:18) Job searching vs. dating analogy
• (26:19)  LinkedIn open to work banner controversy
• (27:30) The reality of job searching
• (30:11) The importance of proactive networking
• (31:03) Job market trends and future outlook
• (32:40) Historical context of job market changes
• (34:29) The need for continued effort in job searching
• (35:25) LinkedIn support services
• (36:02) Finding the right help
• (36:29) Patience in networking
• (37:13) Local opportunities
• (37:47) Closing remarks

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started...

This week on Recruiting is no Joke, I'm joined by Dan Lockhart Head of Technical and Product Recruiting at Event store. Dan has many years of experience as a talent leader, speaker, and writer. We will dive into his background, and his thoughts on the industry and discuss his balance between job-seeking, running a business, and surviving in the TA space. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

With over 20 years of experience in the tech recruiting industry, Tim Farrelly co-leads the Coit Group. This Hudson RPO company specializes in building high-impact teams for the world's most influential and beloved tech brands. As a global leader in recruitment process outsourcing (RPO), COIT offers cutting-edge talent solutions and consulting to early-stage, mid-market, and Fortune 500 companies across the tech sector. Tim's mission is to fuel high-velocity growth and success for their clients, leveraging networks and know-how to bring them top performers in engineering, sales, product management, marketing, operations, and other in-demand roles. Coit values hustle, honesty, transparency, client satisfaction, and fun, and partners with clients as a dedicated extension of their team. Feel free to join in and ask Tim questions about the agency market and RPO process. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to this week's episode of Recruiting is no Joke: Currently the Global Vice President of Talent, Mobility and Rewards at HelloFresh. Previously, Global Head of Talent Acquisition at Zalando focussed on Technology Hiring and prior to that the Director and Head of Strategic Hiring at Wipro and Wipro Digital. In addition to currently a RL100 Core Member & TTC Community Manager. An accomplished people leader with experience in various HR roles, with a passion for Talent Acquisition, Talent Management, Inclusion and Diversity, Mobility, Rewards and learning & development and employers branding. Across my career, I have been strategic in embracing digital innovation and automation to transform organisations HR / People functions. From Talent Acquisition processes, Global Mobility, D&I Strategies to early careers for Graduates and Interns. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I am with Leah Daniels Leah’s experience in the Talent Acquisition space spans the recruiting funnel from top to bottom. Most recently, Leah was an executive with the programmatic job ad platform Appcast, where she originally began as the VP of Business Development and Alliances and ultimately became the GM of SaaS operations where she oversaw strategy and key software growth. Prior to joining Appcast, Leah was the Director of Product Strategy at Monster in the Software Solutions group. Earlier in her career, Leah also held the position of Director of Global Alliances and Business Development with Bullhorn. Leah is a Boston University Alum where she graduated with a degree in Psychology an Sociology. Leah’s position as a leader in the industry began with several positions she held at ZoomInfo working with large enterprises seeking hard to find talent and later was granted a patent on detecting early behavior of candidates in social media. As always say Hi and let us know what questions you have. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Recruiting is no joke Episode 12 -

Scott Schefferstein started recruiting 10 years ago at a boutique agency and since has worked at companies like GE Digital and Netflix.

He now runs talent at a Series-A software company that is helping some of the world's leading travel organizations increase revenue.

We will discuss Scotts time a Netflix, his career trajectory, and the differences between working at a worldwide known brand and a start-up!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Going through a layoff is never easy, and bouncing back with a new job can feel like an uphill battle. It gets even harder when you're bombarded with bad advice online.

Join us on "Recruiting is No Joke" as we chat with the amazing James Hudson, a talent acquisition expert. He'll share real-world tips on navigating the job market after a layoff and crafting a solid plan for your next career move.

Remember, finding a job is more like a marathon than a sprint. Let's work together to get you back on track and moving forward in your career. Tune in for this important conversation with James Hudson, only on "Recruiting is No Joke"!

In this episode: 

• (2:11) – James Hudson begins telling the listeners about his journey in Talent and Acquisition, including his Linkedin content journey.
• (2:58) – The auto accident that changed everything. 
• (4:00) – James sees an opportunity via Linkedin to share real insights.
• (4:44) – The audience on Linkedin begins to grow. 
• (5:04) – James lands a weekly column in Forbes. 
• (7:09) – The conversation goes deep into James and his content strategy and reviews popular posts. 
• (9:42) – James speaks on followers and their views on career coaching and resume writing services offered by recruiters. 
• (10:33) – James makes an interesting point about the most prolific content creators. 
• (10:55) – The value a recruiter has to offer as a content creator. 
• (12:00) – James voices concerns about recruiters. 
• (12:42) – Social media exploitation from the realm of career and recruiting advice. 
• (13:49) – Joel and James review another post/video and provide cautionary perspectives.
• (16:50) – James discusses the danger of speaking in absolutes. 
• (17:41) – James says anyone speaking in absolutes is not a recruiter, they’re a salesperson.
• (18:52) – The importance of testing your resume if it isn’t working. 
• (20:20) – Joel and James review another video, this one featuring James. 
• (21:30) – Things to do when facing a layoff, according to James.
• (22:10 – Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs and how it applies to business and job seekers. 
• (23:00) – Why James and his most viral post matter and resonate with listeners. 
• (24:08) – Advice for recently laid-off workers. 
• (24:34) – The 90-minute rule for job seekers. 
• (24:38) – Don’t forget to practice gratitude. 
• (25:05) – What got James through the dark times. 
• (26:08) – The importance of finding your job search rhythm. 
• (26:31) – The gift of time that comes with being laid off. 
• (28:02) – Needs following a layoff are situational and change from day to day. 
• (31:05) – James offers job seekers his best piece of advice. 
• (31:51) – Job searches are marathons, not sprints. 
• (34:13) – The power of community and tips on networking. 

What if I told you that the future of recruitment isn't confined to office perks and flexible hours anymore? Picture a world where virtual reality interviews redefine the hiring process, where your next boss might be an AI, and where company culture thrives as a vibrant, evolving force. Welcome to a frontier where recruitment meets innovation, and corporate culture isn't just a buzzword—it's a dynamic, living ecosystem shaping the workplaces of tomorrow.

Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we feature Devyn Mikell, President of QualiFI, to discuss current trends and challenges in the recruitment industry. QualiFI is a screening platform designed for high-volume recruiting. It assists in managing candidates from the initial phone screen through to the final interview, including scheduling and live video interactions with customers.

During the conversation, we delve into the impact of remote work, employee mandates, and the ongoing talent shortage in healthcare. Our conversation also touches on the ethical implications of political discussions in the workplace and the surprising decline in demand for software developers. Additionally, we react to news stories, including Wells Fargo's firing of employees/‘Mouse Jigglers’  for unethical practices. This episode offers valuable insights into the evolving landscape of recruitment and corporate culture.

In this episode:

• [01:07] - Introduction to  Devyn Mikell
• [01:13] -Introduction to QualiFI and what it does
• [01:41] - QualiFI's clientele base
• [02:05] - Challenges in healthcare recruitment
• [03:26] - Devyn's thoughts on the role of AI in healthcare jobs: supplementing or risky?
• [04:28] - Reaction to news story: Wells Fargo firing mouse jigglers
• [-6:13] - Ethical concerns in sales: Remote work trends and productivity
• [09:40] -Devyn's biggest challenge has been building a remote-first company
• [11:35] - Remote work mandate at Dell/Thecorporate escapee video
• [14:33] - Reaction to Dell's return to office policy
• [16:21] - Challenges of switching back to in-person work
• [17:57] - Remote work challenges
• [19:37] - Navigating political conversations at work
• [30:34] - Decline in software developer demand
• [34:22] - Gen Z's interest in skilled trades
• [36:23] - The ego and humility
• [37:28] - Events and networking

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Recruiting is no Joke - Episode 11 With Laura Gassman Director of Talent at 1906

Laura has a strong agency and corporate recruitment background and currently leads talent at a cannabis startup in Denver.

Join us today as we discuss -

How she got started in recruitment,

The biggest challenges her team is facing,

How do you recruit in a start-up,

How do you recruit during economic uncertainty...

And soooo much more.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Is the return-to-office trend finally losing steam? In this week’s episode, Joel Lalgee tackles a growing corporate misstep as companies like Dell struggle with flawed return-to-office policies that penalize parents and strain employee well-being. You’ll also hear a rare, heartwarming layoff story—yes, you read that right! Joel highlights how empathy can turn even the toughest moments into opportunities for growth.

As Gen Z loses faith in traditional college paths, there’s a growing movement towards skilled trades. Joel dives into why more young people are choosing hands-on careers and how industries like construction are evolving to meet the demand. Plus, if you’re juggling multiple jobs or considering a side hustle, you’re not alone. Joel breaks down the rise in multi-job holders and what it means for the future of the workforce.

Tune in for raw takes on the future of work, the return of layoffs, and why flexibility isn’t just a perk—it’s a necessity. Whether you’re a recruiter, job seeker, or curious about the trends reshaping work, this episode offers insights that will keep you ahead of the curve.

In this episode:

00:04: Introduction to the episode

00:37: Overview of the week's episode

01:07: Meet the host, Joel Algee

01:35: New segment announcement and how to stay in touch

02:27: Sponsor message: Source Whale

03:58: Feel-good moment: Layoff with empathy

08:21: Thoughts on the return to office policies

13:42: Dell's childcare policy controversy

16:20: Final thoughts and call for feedback

16:36: Teens losing faith in college and rise in skilled trades

17:28: Rise in Vocational Programs

20:26: Introduction to Multiple Job Holders

22:31: Conclusion and Closing Remarks

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive.

Kelly Burlage is the VP of Talent Acquisition at Lineage Logistics. Kelly manages a large global team of recruiters at all levels. She is a passionate leader and brings a wealth of knowledge to her team. Join us as we discuss Kelly's journey and challenges and get her insights on the future of TA. Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.

Have you ever felt like your job application disappears into a black hole, never to be seen by human eyes? You name it, I've heard it. 'It must be a robot, 'ATS just reject everyone,' or the classic, 'No one even reads my resume.'

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we're thrilled to have Russell Ayles, the founder and CEO of UNRiVALLED recruitment agency. With decades of experience in internal recruitment, Russell brings a wealth of knowledge to our discussion.

During our conversation, we dive deep into a controversial video by Jerry Lee, the CEO of WonSulting. The video in question showcases a fake resume with the name "Kiss My Nuts" that somehow managed to secure interviews. We fiercely debate the video's underlying message, pondering whether it's a stark revelation of recruiters prioritizing keywords over the entirety of a resume's content.

Throughout our conversation, we dissect the recruitment process, underscoring the undeniable importance of relevant experience and how phone interviews play a crucial role in evaluating a candidate. We also touch upon the often overlooked disconnect between corporate executives and their employees, the elusive concept of a hidden job market, and how the culture of a company can significantly influence its recruitment practices.

Wrapping up the episode, we share some practical job application tips and take the time to debunk common myths surrounding the hiring process. Our goal is to shed light on these critical issues and help both recruiters and job seekers navigate the complex world of recruitment with a better understanding and more realistic expectations.

In this episode:

• (00:00:37) - Introduction to Russell Ayles  
• (00:01:50) - Russell's journey to becoming a LinkedIn Top Voice.  
• (00:05:34) - Choosing and using an ATS, focusing on candidate experience.  
• (00:08:41) - Russell's transition from career coaching to founding Unrivalled.  
• (00:09:57) - Discussing the challenges faced in business and entrepreneurship.  
• (00:11:34) - Reaction to Jerry Lee's "Kiss My Nuts" resume experiment.  
• (00:15:24) - Debating the experiment's purpose and recruiters' responsibilities.  
• (00:16:35) - Authenticity and impact of Jerry Lee's video.  
• (00:17:50) - Role of keywords in recruitment and talent acquisition.  
• (00:19:29) - Why certain resumes pass screening processes.  
• (00:20:24) - Recruiters' emphasis on specific skills.  
• (00:23:33) - The influence of resumes on job suitability.  
• (00:26:19) - Elon Musk's $56 billion request and employee implications.  
• (00:29:28) - Trust and culture in corporate environments.  
• (00:32:32) - Comparing US and Australian corporate cultures.  
• (00:33:21) - Culture differences in small vs. large companies.  
• (00:34:11) - Aligning recruitment with company culture.  

Have you ever wondered what it takes to land a job in GovTech or defense tech? In this season-opening episode of Recruiting is No Joke host Joel Lalgee sits down with Tommy Weinert, recruitment lead and founder of Mount Indie, a dynamic agency specializing in government and defense tech recruiting. Tommy shares his unique journey into the world of clearance jobs, focusing on recruiting top-tier engineering talent for roles that require security clearances. From his beginnings in audiovisuals to now leading a thriving recruitment agency, Tommy reflects on the importance of speaking up, seizing opportunities, and adapting in a fast-paced, competitive industry.

The conversation takes a deeper dive into the complexities of recruiting within a small, specialized candidate pool and how Mount Indie’s success stems from actively listening to clients and tailoring solutions. Tommy also opens up about the challenges of balancing confidence and imposter syndrome, emphasizing the value of taking risks for personal and career growth.

But that’s not all. The episode explores some hot-button topics in today’s professional landscape, including diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I). The speakers examine the often-polarizing nature of DE&I discussions and how these conversations carry emotional weight in the workplace. They also touch on the appropriateness of sharing political views on LinkedIn, with a LinkedIn poll revealing that most respondents believe political discourse should be avoided on the platform. These reflections spark a larger conversation on maintaining professionalism while navigating sensitive topics in today’s digital world.

Additionally, Tommy and Joel offer valuable job-seeking advice, emphasizing the importance of applying directly through company websites rather than relying solely on LinkedIn. This strategic approach, they argue, can significantly enhance engagement with potential employers and improve a candidate’s chances of standing out in a crowded job market.

Tune in for a candid and insightful episode packed with actionable advice, career wisdom, and a fresh perspective on recruitment in a rapidly evolving world. Whether you’re a job seeker or an agency leader, this episode offers essential tips for navigating the complexities of today’s recruiting landscape.

In this episode:

(00:03) Introduction to the podcast

(00:36) Announcement of new format

(02:32) Guest introduction: Tommy Weinert

(03:00) Insight into clearance jobs

(04:03) Working with government contractors

(04:20) Tommy's journey into recruitment

(06:07) Imposter syndrome discussion

(08:52) Starting own recruitment agency

(10:11) Agency structure and growth

(12:02) Current events and TikTok discussion

(12:56) TikTok's ban and national security

(14:01) Tommy's experience with TikTok

(15:24) Mixed signals about TikTok

(17:39) Reflections on data security

(19:03) The impact of TikTok layoffs

(19:36) Reactions to LinkedIn controversy

(20:51) The risks of platform dependency

(22:24) The need for content creation skills

(24:11) Federal workers returning to office

(25:12) Remote work trends post-COVID

(26:24) Conflicting views on office return

(27:09) Speculation on workforce reduction

(28:14) Federal employee remote work statistics

(29:19) Predictions for candidate pool chaos

(29:53) DE&I polarization

(31:42) Emotional nature of D&I

(33:59) LinkedIn poll on politics

(35:31) Impact of political discussions

(36:27) Nuance in political conversations

(40:45) Job-seeking...

Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I'm with Joy Banfield Vp of Talent at Designity - an on-demand marketing company. Joy is a strategic people operations leader who earns her seat at the table by going beyond "traditional HR." As an experienced Chief of Staff and true Organizational Generalist, she brings a strategic mindset - tying company success to employee experience and engagement. As Vice President of People at Designity, she leads Talent Acquisition, People Operations, and Employee Engagement initiatives. With a heavy focus on building, nurturing, and retaining top talent. She's an HR Department of one, and focused on building scalable hiring systems that will support the projected growth of the organization. Joy creates great content and is a leader that brings a wealth of experience. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

A job seeker submits their application. They wait. And wait. But there’s no call, no email—just silence. What they don’t know is that their fate was sealed in milliseconds, judged by AI-driven algorithms they’ll never see, for reasons they’ll never understand.

Are we witnessing a revolution that will elevate recruitment to new heights? Or are we on the verge of losing the human touch in hiring forever? 

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Matt Pietsch to unravel the truth behind recruitment’s rapid evolution.

With decades of experience in human capital management, Matt has seen it all—the rise of cutting-edge HR tech, the fragmentation of applicant tracking systems, and the growing pains of an industry struggling to keep up with change. But with AI transforming hiring at an unprecedented pace, one question looms large: Are we making recruitment more efficient, or are we losing the personal touch that truly makes a difference?

Matt and Joel dive deep into the current job market, exposing the hidden challenges candidates face and the technology gaps recruiters must overcome. Can a more unified system bring order to the chaos? And in a world where automation is king, how do we keep genuine human relationships at the heart of hiring?

But that’s not all. The debate over remote work versus returning to the office is more intense than ever. How do companies measure productivity fairly? Are younger workers really craving in-person collaboration, or is flexibility the ultimate key to success? And what about working parents—how can they navigate a workforce that wasn’t built with them in mind?

With fresh insights, bold predictions, and a no-nonsense look at the future of human capital management, this episode is a must-listen. The future of work is changing—are you ready to adapt? Let’s dive in!

In this episode:

(00:03) Introduction to the episode

(01:12) Guest introduction

(01:48) Matt's background in recruitment

(02:01) Early recruitment experience

(02:45) Client relationships in recruitment

(03:15) Volume of calls in early career

(04:32) Evolution of recruiter value

(06:00) Face-to-face interactions in recruitment

(07:21) Progression in Matt's career

(08:26) Experience with startups

(09:33) Understanding HR tech landscape

(11:09) Innovation in ATS market

(13:16) Total talent management concept

(14:48) AI's impact on recruitment

(15:29) Candidate experience challenges

(17:18) Human interaction in recruiting

(19:13) Disconnect in recruitment processes

(20:14) The evolution of recruitment technology

(21:36) The future of recruitment staffing

(22:00) The impact of technology on human interaction

(23:39) The importance of face-to-face interaction

(24:36) Building an offline brand

(25:37) Value over discounts in sales

(26:06) Shifting focus to value in job applications

(28:00) ROI in employment relationships

(29:09) Changing dynamics of job security

(29:40) Discussion on remote work

(30:45) Deferred resignation announcement

(31:47) Flexibility in work environments

(32:42) Measuring productivity

(33:36) Remote work benefits

(34:36) Young workers' preferences

(35:33) Impact of return-to-office mandates

(36:34) Corporate decision-making

(37:15) Commuting challenges

(38:53) Childcare challenges

(40:14) Measuring productivity challenges

(41:05) Outlook for hiring market in 2025

(42:32) Networking opportunities

(43:09) Closing remarks

About Matt...

Welcome to a new ERA of Recruiting is No Joke - We've got a brand new sponsor @metaview and I'm delighted to be hosting the CEO on our first episode as partners.

Siadhal is the co-founder and CEO of Metaview, the AI-powered interview note-taker loved by recruiters at companies like Brex, Robinhood, Quora, and Genentech. Prior to founding Metaview in 2018, he was a Product leader at Uber.

Massive Thanks to Metaview for partnering with the Recruiting is no Joke podcast and Realest Recruiter brand.

Welcome to Recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals. This week I am with Christine Redd - VP Talent at AlertMedia Christine is a dynamic, agile HR leader with a passion for match-making people to careers. With a strong background in high-growth, fast-paced SaaS environments, coupled with various facets of Human Resources experience, she has a unique advantage when it comes to leading People teams....not only being creative, proactive, and urgent but also being highly organized and data-driven. She has had the pleasure of successfully recruiting top talent for start-ups, large tech giants, and everything in between. The ultimate candidate and employee experience is my specialty. As always say Hi and let us know what questions you have. Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.

Jamie Leonard had a vision for a new refreshing conference for recruitment and TA professionals...

We are going to hear how RecFest came to fruition.

Join us Friday as we chat about the most exciting recruiter event, landing in the US in Nashville next week.

Special shout out to Metaview the best sponsor ever!

Welcome to Recruiting is no joke a live show for recruiters! This week I welcom Jennifer Kusch: Jen Kusch serves as the Head of Talent Acquisition for GCC & Pakistan at ENGIE, drawing on over two decades of HR Management expertise. Based in Dubai, she spearheads the recruitment strategies and initiatives across the GCC and Pakistan, ensuring the acquisition of top-tier talent that aligns with ENGIE's vision and goals. Before joining ENGIE in January 2022, Jennifer carved out a successful career pathencompassing roles such as HR Business Partner, Corporate Trainer, University Relations and Intern Manager, and Senior Recruiting Manager. Her recruitment prowessis evidenced by the nearly 1,000 employees she has personally brought on board,ranging from long-haul truck drivers to high-ranking C-suite executives. Jennifer has a Masters in Human Resource Management from Keller Graduate School, Phoenix, and a Bachelors in Psychology from Brigham Young University, Provo. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Is finding the right talent like searching for a needle in a haystack? In today's fast-paced world, building strong communities and trust and balancing in-person and online events is more important than ever in recruitment. Whether it's the personal connections made face-to-face or the wide reach of online platforms, the best recruitment strategies blend both worlds.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we host a live recording at the Unleash conference, featuring guests Krista Tan from Talent Collective, Summer Delaney from CollabWORK and Ray Culvert from Talent Partners. We delve into the heart of recruitment, touching on the pivotal roles of community building, trust, and the dynamic between in-person and online events. We discuss CollabWORK’s innovative approach to connecting employers with the hidden job market through trusted community spaces, highlighting their AI-driven job distribution and impressive engagement rates. We also address the challenges within the talent ecosystem, emphasizing the need for better communication and follow-through in the recruitment process. Together, we underscore the role of technology and community in enhancing the recruitment experience for candidates and employers alike.

In this episode:

• [00:53] Introducing Talent Collective
• [01:51] Building a community
• [03:31] Impactful stories
• [04:38] In-person vs. virtual events
• [06:15] Growth and leadership
• [08:21] Building a community
• [09:08] Engagement in the community
• [10:07] Connecting with Talent Collective
• [12:31] Introducing CollabWORK
• [13:44] Defining community
• [14:31] Successful communities
• [16:39] Online and in-person communities
• [17:16] Background of CollabWORK
• [17:27] Katie Couric and career journey
• [17:57] Building trust and community partnerships
• [19:43] HR tech community and advocacy
• [20:30] CollabWORK's value proposition
• [21:26] Trust and attention in recruitment
• [22:16] Community referrals and job click rates
• [25:31] Hidden job market and community connect
• [26:29] Community expansion and personal branding
• [27:11] Engaging in professional communities
• [30:22] Connecting with CollabWORK
• [31:29] Talent Partners and talent ecosystem
• [33:06] Recruitment challenges and AI in pre-screening
• [34:32] AI for candidates
• [36:43] Recruiter job security
• [38:14] Automating recruitment
• [39:28] Recruiter responsibility
• [41:07] Networking and community building
• [42:16] Future of job boards
• [43:35] Unleash conference takeaways

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Did you know that the landscape of job searching is changing rapidly? Big companies and their strict rules are becoming less popular. This shift has sped up because of big changes like the pandemic. The pandemic showed us that working from home can work well. At the same time, technology, especially AI, is making job searches easier and faster.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we welcome Serge Boudreau and  Shelley Billinghurst from the "Recruitment Flex" podcast. The conversation delves into the intricacies of the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search process

During the conversation, they discuss their professional backgrounds, their work at Hire Value, and the importance of mentorship and relationships in business. Shelley and Serge share insights on starting a business, the evolving job search process, and the impact of technology and parental involvement in interviews. They also touch on the power shift towards job seekers and the rise of remote work and the gig economy. Shelley discusses the significant power shift to job seekers in 2021 and 2022, driven by the rise of remote work and the gig economy. However, she noted that the traditional corporate grind still holds sway in many companies.

The conversation provides valuable insights into the recruitment industry, the importance of mentorship, and the evolving dynamics of the job search process.

In this episode:

• [00:37] Introduction to Serge Boudreau & Shelley Billinghurst
• [01:25] Shelley’s background and podcast origin
• [02:28] Serge's background and podcast origin
• [05:09] Podcast growth and authenticity
• [05:59] Hosting events and industry relationships
• [08:58] Collaboration and business expansion
• [13:59] Advice for starting a business
• [16:21] Importance of real relationships
• [17:49] Entrepreneurial coaching and advice
• [20:14] The importance of empathy for job seekers
• [21:24] Challenges faced by recruiters and job seekers
• [24:09] Use of technology in job interviews
• [25:52] Impact of AI on job interviews and assessments
• [30:12] AI auto apply tools and their impact
• [34:39] Challenges in recruitment marketing and candidate screening
• [36:39] Involvement of parents in job interviews
• [40:57] The thank you note debate
• [46:09] Shift away from corporate grin
• [51:53] Impact of pandemic on work preferences
• [53:32] Viral sensation and online attention

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Like it or not, Gen Z is taking over: From politics to the workforce, how do we bridge the gap between decades of experience and fresh new energy? What happens when seasoned professionals in their 70s find themselves working alongside ambitious 20-year-olds who are reshaping the work landscape? With Gen Z bringing their tech-savvy skills and fresh perspectives into the mix, it’s inevitable that some challenges will arise.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we're thrilled to welcome Danielle Faraj, a leading LinkedIn voice and Gen Z workplace expert.

In this episode, we delve into the generational divide in the workforce, focusing on the unique challenges faced by Gen Z employees as they enter the job market. Danielle explores how these challenges are often misunderstood and discusses strategies for fostering a supportive and inclusive workplace culture.

We address common stereotypes about Gen Z, such as the notion of entitlement, and how these perceptions echo criticisms faced by millennials in the past. Danielle highlights how platforms like TikTok and Instagram have empowered Gen Z to voice their experiences and hold companies accountable.

Join us as we examine evolving workplace expectations, communication barriers, and shifts in professional etiquette. Danielle shares insights on bridging generational gaps, emphasizing the importance of mentorship, clear communication, and adaptability for creating a positive work environment.

In this episode:

• (00:55) Introduction to today’s topic
• (02:24) Introduction to Danielle Faraj
• (03:01) Danielle's background
• (05:11) Toxic work experience example
• (06:49) Decision to leave a job
• (07:16) Positive work experience at Wade and Wendy
• (09:26) Realization about Gen Z's role
• (10:40) Influential figures in Gen Z discussion
• (11:39) Critique of Simon Sinek
• (12:46) Comparison of generational experiences
• (15:11) Discussion on Gen Z job retention
• (17:58) Contextualizing job market changes
• (20:04) The corporate ladder and transition
• (21:25) Corporate loyalty and layoffs
• (21:36) Cohesiveness in work environments
• (22:25) Generational work expectations
• (23:22) Productivity and remote work
• (25:36) Generational judgments
• (26:57) Remote work vs. office work
• (28:35) Gen Z's work preferences
• (30:03) Trust issues with leadership
• (32:00) Corporate trust erosion
• (34:46) Generational poll results
• (37:35) Gen Z's flexibility in time management
• (39:28) Workplace timing expectations
• (40:25) Toxic work environment experiences
• (41:20) Communication of workplace expectations
• (42:12) Gen Z etiquette training
• (42:52) Critical skills for Gen Z
• (44:08) Recruitment and cultural fit
• (46:01) Accountability in leadership
• (46:30) Social media and employee voice
• (48:14) Gen Z's motivation and awareness
• (50:08) Empathy in understanding generations
• (50:48) Danielle's upcoming projects
• (52:06) Podcast closing remarks

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing...

Embarking on a job search journey can be a challenging and humbling experience, regardless of one's level of expertise. In the podcast "Recruiting is No Joke," listeners gain valuable insights to navigate through the complexities of the job market and secure the careers they deserve.

In this episode, we revisit some of the most impactful moments from past episodes while sharing feedback from our audience. Join us as we reflect on key learnings and memorable discussions, aiming to equip listeners with the knowledge and tools needed for success in their career pursuits.

Additionally, we'll provide a sneak peek into the exciting updates and enhancements planned for the podcast. Whether you're a seasoned professional or just starting your career journey, our goal is to empower you with the resources to seize opportunities and achieve your professional aspirations.

In this episode:

• (1:02) – Joel goes deep about his followers and the direction of the podcast. 
• (1:40) – The focus of the podcast moving forward is discussed. 
• (2:30) – The guest format plan is revealed. 
• (4:40) – The comments from the post are shared on-air.
• (5:14) – Advice for job seekers. It takes more than just applying.
• (5:41) – Randomly applying is not the way, apply for jobs that fit your skillset. 
• (6:12) – Joel shares that recruiters were hardest hit by the slowed job market. 
• (7:00) – Plenty of jobs, but the jobs don’t match the people according to Joel. 
• (7:12) – Joel offers job seekers advice. 
• (8:38) – Joel offers a sobering reality on today’s job market.
• (9:30) – The comments from video #2 are discussed. 
• (10:43) – Joel encourages listeners to keep working on the road to finding a job. 
• (10:50) – Apply, network, update your resume. 
• (11:50) – Tools are great, but the resume will still need to work for you. 
• (12:15) – Joel mentions what he looks for in an applicant’s job history. 
• (12:45) – The things applicants should emphasize on their resumes. 
• (13:52) – Focus on accomplishments, not responsibilities. 
• (14:44) – Joel shares insights from a good friend who also happens to be a peer. 
• (16:50) – Joel gives his take on what comes next. 
• (17:10) – AI and Automation led to layoffs, but now we’re in growth mode. 
• (17:25) – The election will tell the hiring story once we know which way it goes. 
• (18:20) – Joel discusses his job seeker poll results. 
• (19:10) – Joel encourages listeners to participate in his poll. 
• (20:07) – Closing thoughts from Joel on shows to come. 

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to...

Recent Gallup findings show employee engagement is at its lowest in a decade, even worse than during the pandemic. In this thought-provoking episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Josh Drean, co-author of "Employment is Dead: How Disruptive Technologies are Revolutionizing the Way We Work." Together, they dive deep into the seismic shifts reshaping the modern workplace, from the lingering effects of the "Great Resignation" and "Quiet Quitting" to the growing chasm between corporate profits and employee compensation.

Josh and Joel explore the critical role of employee experience design in fostering engagement and retention, particularly as younger generations redefine their relationships with work. They challenge traditional corporate practices, arguing that companies must prioritize employee well-being and adapt to evolving workforce expectations to thrive in the long term.

The conversation takes a hard look at the pitfalls of traditional employee engagement surveys, using a striking example of employees being fired after an "anonymous" feedback session. This underscores the urgent need for trust, transparency, and actionable change in workplace culture.

Looking ahead, Josh and Joel envision a future of work powered by decentralized, skill-based employment models enabled by web3 technologies. They discuss how these innovations could democratize opportunities and redefine the employer-employee relationship.

The episode wraps up with Josh sharing insights from his book and promoting his upcoming events, while Joel encourages listeners to join the conversation and rethink the future of work. Let’s dive in!

In this episode:

(00:00:03) Introduction to the Episode

(00:01:36) Guest Introduction

(00:02:20) Overview of the Book

(00:02:50) Employee Engagement Trends

(00:03:55) Reflection on 2021

(00:05:57) Employee Experience Design

(00:07:18) Culture vs. Employee Satisfaction

(00:08:34) Short-Term Gains vs. Workforce Needs

(00:09:58) Shifts in Employee Mindset

(00:11:10) Rise of Content Creation

(00:12:50) Bank CEO Salaries vs. Employee Raises

(00:13:08) Employee Frustrations at JPMorgan Chase

(00:15:55) The Contractual Nature of Employment

(00:16:56) Resentment in the Workforce

(00:17:54) Job Market Realities

(00:18:04) Employee Retention vs. Engagement

(00:19:37) HR Limitations and Automation

(00:20:18) Diversity and Inclusion News

(00:21:31) Impact of Political Changes on D&I

(00:22:05) Equity in the Workplace

(00:23:26) Generational Divide in HR Perspectives

(00:24:24) Corporate Compliance and D&I Efforts

(00:26:38) Public Perception of D&I Value

(00:28:04) Future of D&I Over the Next Four Years

(00:28:42) Rise of the Gig Economy

(00:29:50) The Importance of Trust in Employee Surveys

(00:30:16) The Consequences of Honesty

(00:31:42) The Disconnect in Workplace Culture

(00:32:40) Employee Expectations vs. Reality

(00:34:57) The Creator Economy as a Model

(00:39:44) The Future of Work and Decentralization

(00:41:06) Skill Verification and Employment Dynamics

(00:44:04) The Role of Education in Freelancing

(00:45:12) Promoting Engagement and Connection

About Josh Drean

Josh Drean is a visionary leader in the future of work, employee experience, and decentralized work models. As a co-author of "Employment is Dead", Josh challenges traditional workplace paradigms and advocates for innovative approaches to employee engagement and satisfaction. With a deep...

Did you know that your employer brand could be the game-changer in attracting top talent today? In the latest episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee dives into the exciting world of employer branding with insights from industry pros like Maria Katris (Built In), Tannum Sullivan(Golden Hippo), and Celinda Appleby (Visa).

Broadcasting live from Breakfast USA in Nashville, Joel and his guests discuss how recruitment has transformed from a simple transaction to a savvy marketing strategy. Maria highlights how candidates are now doing their homework on companies just like they would when making a big purchase. This makes building brand awareness and keeping potential candidates engaged super important, even when you're not hiring.

Tannum shares why it’s crucial for recruiters to focus on building real relationships with candidates. Personal touches and valuable content can make all the difference!

Celinda chimes in on the need for authenticity in employer branding, reminding us that what you promise during recruitment should align with the actual employee experience. Authentic stories and consistent messaging are key to winning trust.

Want to know how AI fits into all this? Tune in to Recruiting is No Joke and don’t forget to subscribe for more insights on navigating the future of recruiting!

In this episode:

(00:36) Live interviews at Breakfast USA

(02:25) Maria Katris introduction

(03:14) Recruitment as marketing

(05:13) Candidate awareness and engagement

(06:48) Shifting mindsets in recruitment

(08:54) Challenges in implementing new strategies

(10:21) Building community and talent pools

(14:01) Global recruitment trends

(16:26) Content creation for global markets

(18:02) Authenticity in employer branding

(18:17) Employer engagement through raw video

(19:14) Market differences in recruitment

(19:52) Future of recruitment technology

(20:42) Resources for recruiters

(21:14) Power of video content

(22:05) Introduction to Golden Hippo

(23:39) Building employer brand from scratch

(24:27) Impact of employer branding on hiring

(24:50) Getting leadership buy-in

(26:10) Measuring employer branding success

(27:22) Common employer branding mistakes

(28:45) Authenticity in employer branding

(31:10) AI in employer branding

(33:04) Pitfalls of using AI

(34:34) Encouraging employee participation

(35:41) Employer branding and career videos

(36:52) Recruitment strategy integration

(37:27) Finding Golden Hippo

(38:43) Future of recruitment marketing

(39:44) Using Gen AI in recruitment

(41:02) Common employer branding mistakes

(41:58) Balancing aspirational and authentic branding

(43:23) Focus group strategies

(44:20) Leadership challenges in recruitment

(45:00) Talent attraction metrics

(45:35) Team structure in talent attraction

(46:08) Video content in recruitment

(47:52) Future of employer branding

(49:04) Tracking candidate journey

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Are you keeping up with the latest trends in the recruitment industry? From the increasing influence of Artificial Intelligence in resume crafting to the evolving standards of content on LinkedIn, the landscape of job hunting is constantly changing. But amidst all these changes, one thing remains constant: the importance of authenticity.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Adam Posner, CEO of NHP Talent and fellow podcast host.

In our conversation, we delve into the most recent trends within the recruitment industry, with a particular emphasis on the influence of Artificial Intelligence in the crafting of resumes and the caliber of content on LinkedIn. We underscore the necessity of maintaining authenticity in job applications and adopting a strategic methodology when networking on LinkedIn. Our conversation encompasses the criticality of pinpointing the appropriate audience for brand collaborations, the hazards associated with an excessive dependence on social media platforms for conducting business, and the changing dynamics of remote and hybrid work structures. Furthermore, we engage in a dialogue about the societal progression towards a better work-life equilibrium and the imperative for lucid communication in the process of synchronizing candidate expectations with the ethos of a company's culture.

In this episode:

• [00:00:37] Introduction to  Adam Posner  
• [00:02:37] Discussion on podcast episodes  
• [00:03:26] Impact of AI on resume generation  
• [00:09:17] Quality of content on LinkedIn  
• [00:13:24] Thought leadership and building a quality network  
• [00:16:55] Building a quality network on LinkedIn  
• [00:18:18] Thought leadership and content quality  
• [00:21:27] Impact of AI in recruitment  
• [00:23:31] Remote work and work-life balance  
• [00:29:15] Hustle culture and work priorities  
• [00:31:26] Work from home revolution  
• [00:32:42] Young engineers' preference for office work  
• [00:34:13] Controversy over interview attire  
• [00:35:10] Importance of presentability in interviews  
• [00:37:39] Challenges of recruiting in lean teams  
• [00:38:59] Upcoming events and podcast release schedule 

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Imagine this: In a world buzzing with AI-powered job searches and LinkedIn's latest features, does the humble cold call still have a place in recruitment? Let's dive into how traditional tactics like cold calling stack up against today's tech-savvy methods

"Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we talk with Lysha Holmes, owner of Qui Recruitment in the UK. Qui Recruitment was established in 2005 to provide a consultative and informed service within the recruitment market.  Lysha has been a guest on our podcast before, bringing valuable insights. 

We explore the evolution of cold calling in recruitment, the impact of digital communication, and the crucial role of personal branding on LinkedIn. Lysha emphasizes the art of a compelling opening line in cold calling—it’s not just about making a call, but about forging a connection. We also delve into using LinkedIn for lead generation and building relationships through content creation. With LinkedIn's new features like video feeds gaining traction, Lysha highlights their appeal to Gen Z, underscoring video's rising importance. We also discuss AI's potential to enhance the candidate experience by improving communication and maintaining respect throughout the hiring process. This conversation is a treasure trove for recruiters, offering practical tips on mastering cold calling, leveraging AI, and building a strong personal brand to thrive in today's recruitment landscape. Let’s dive in!"

In this episode:

• [00:58] Introduction to Lysha Holmes
• [04:25] The Importance of Cold Calling
• [11:29] Evolution of Communication Methods
• [18:23] The Role of Personal Branding and Content Creation
• [18:31] The suggested tab on LinkedIn and its similarity to TikTok's "for you" page.
• [19:18] Observations and opinions about the suggested content on LinkedIn
• [21:58] Use of video on LinkedIn
• [23:00] The preferences of Gen Z for consuming video.
• [24:04] Audience demographics on TikTok
• [27:58] Advice for creating video content
• [30:30] Following up after job interviews
• [31:46] Balancing persistence and respect in job seeking
• [35:07] The importance of persistence
• [36:32] Readjusting recruitment metrics
• [37:50] Improving the candidate experience with AI
• [38:44] Learning from online dating apps
• [40:45] Focusing on joy in the job search
• [42:23] Gratitude and adding value in the job search
• [47:33] Networking and being non-judgmental

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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On this week's show Recruiting Is No Joke Show:

I meet with Kirk Kimball, he's worked for a ton of recognizable brands like Conagra and Danone. He now leads HR and TA at Barkbus a really cool LA based startup that does mobile pet grooming.

Most of his recruiting isn't done on Linkedin, so if you're looking for creative sourcing strategies like Instagram and Facebook you won't want to miss this episode.

Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it live

Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.

See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to another episode of recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals.

This week I'm excited to chat with Jennifer Paxton (her/hers) Co-founder of Jamyr, and former VP of people at Smile and Privy!

Jen has over a decade of experience in the industry in Agency and in-house roles. She has led global teams and is now building a company that is focused on something extremely close to my heart - Video content.

Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Today I am excited to discuss a topic close to my heart.

Recruitment marketing - I'm joined by Mackenzie Moore (People and Talent leader) and Austin Beveridge (Head of Marketing) from Arc Technologies a full-service finance platform for SaaS, a Series A funded start-up.

We will discuss how they've been partnering together to increase top-of-funnel candidate interest in the company.

Is this scalable?

What have the results been?

How can you apply this to your own TA team?

We will also hear their stories and how they Fell into recruiting!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

This week I'm with David Jaramillo.

From agency to in-house corporate to RPO recruiting with experience in Hospitality, Retail Services, Financial Services, IT, Real Estate, and Healthcare--David has a rich background in TA!

David has been developing and evaluating strategies in the areas of sourcing, analytics, branding, and new technologies used by Talent Acquisition to source and recruit the best.

As Recruiting leader he has overseen teams recruiting in IT, HR, Finance, Accounting, Decision Science, Sales, Collections, Marketing, Internal Controls, Compliance, Physicians, Real Estate/Property Management, and University Relations.

Remember to say hi and have questions ready!

Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

This week I'm with Deanna Brousseau Director of Talent Acquisition at AltaML an AI startup based in Alberta.

Deanna is an empathetic Talent Acquisition that advocates for an equitable, elevated, and fun recruitment experience in the candidate journey. She's dedicated to attracting, retaining, and elevating incredible humans that are excited about the AI industry.

Deanna has been in the space for the past decade and brings a wealth of knowledge.

Join us for this live show and always please drop by and say hi, and ask questions, we will try and get to as many as possible.

Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

This week I am honored to be joined by Clarisce Tolston - PHR AIRS Tolston - Head of TA at HealthTrackRx the nations leading PCR-based infectious disease laboratory.

Clarisce leads the talent strategy as well as DEI initiatives. She has been in recruiting since 2008 and spent 5 years contracting for large companies like Microsoft, Direct TV, and Lexus.

I am excited to discuss her story and hear her thoughts on DEI in recruiting and discuss where we still need to improve.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Welcome to Recruiting is NO joke - A live show dedicated to the Recruiter FAM! This week I'm joined by Michael Kascsak. Michael Kascsak is a 20+ year veteran of the Talent Acquisition industry. He has led Recruitment organizations for such companies as BofA, Capital One, CBRE, PayPal and Google. During his tenure Michael has implemented a wide scale of HR Technology and Resource Management strategies. Along with this, his dedication and top priority is the development and growth of his teammates and business partners. Michael’s leadership style is to create an environment that allows for everyone to bring their authentic self to work and to always be learning from each-other. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Have you ever wondered how a seemingly thriving workplace could conceal a tragedy, or if your job security is at risk due to layoffs and deceptive scams? What if a radical shift like a four-day workweek could transform our work lives, or if massive strikes signal a desperate need for change in how we treat our workforce?

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee explores pivotal stories and trends affecting the recruitment industry. He begins with a tragic case where a Wells Fargo employee was found dead at her desk after four days, sparking a critical discussion about corporate culture and employee well-being. Joel then introduces "career cushioning," a proactive strategy for preparing for potential layoffs, and offers practical advice on effective networking. He also touches on the recent Labor Day strikes in U.S. hotels, highlighting growing concerns over worker conditions and their broader industry impact. Additionally, Joel examines Japan's potential move to a four-day workweek and raises awareness about job offer scams. Throughout the episode, Joel incorporates personal anecdotes with industry insights, urging listeners to stay informed and take control of their careers.

In this episode:

(02:15) Wells Fargo tragedy

(05:13) Career cushioning 

(08:05) Networking strategies

(13:32) Four-day workweek in Japan

(16:16) Job offer scams warning

(18:05) Labor Day strike

(18:58) Hospitality worker shortage

(19:52) Teaching job challenges

(20:44) Healthcare worker issues

(21:36) Manufacturing job realities

(22:30) Need for better job incentives

(23:20) AI and automation in the workforce

(24:04) Wrap-up and future topics

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Are we truly seeing the full picture when it comes to Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) and their role in hiring? Can algorithms really replace the nuance of human judgment? As AI continues to evolve, is it possible that we’re overlooking the essential human element in the hiring process?

In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," we’re delighted to feature Mike Peditto, Director of Talent at Teal and known as "The Realistic Recruiter." Join us as we unravel the intricacies of recruitment, from the impact of Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) to the evolving role of AI in hiring. We dive into a thought-provoking LinkedIn post by Stephen Rothberg that critiques ATS filters for resume keywords and underscores the need for human oversight in the hiring process. We also explore the legal aspects of AI-driven decisions, the balance between technology and human judgment, and the significance of maintaining a polished online presence. Plus, discover how Teal empowers job seekers with essential tools and resources.

Don’t miss a special segment where Mike shares insights from his podcast, "Corporate Pizza Party," co-hosted with industry experts. They offer a candid look at corporate life and practical job search advice, blending humor, honesty, and critical perspectives on the recruiting world. Tune in for an engaging discussion that promises both laughter and valuable takeaways.

In this episode:

• (00:37) Introduction to Mike Peditto
• (02:02) Mike's content creation journey
• (03:40) Discussion on content creation
• (03:43) Corporate pizza party podcast
• (05:31) Recruitment content culture
• (06:21) LinkedIn post discussion
• (07:22) ATS technology and candidate ranking
• (09:00) Legal implications of AI in hiring
• (10:41) The role of recruiters in screening
• (14:10) AI screening tools
• (16:49) Quality vs. quantity of applicants
• (17:43) The future of recruitment tools
• (18:50) Poll results on AI in recruitment
• (19:37) Enhancing candidate experience
• (20:04) AI and resume screening
• (22:27) Authenticity in job applications
• (24:51) Interviewing techniques
• (26:57) Bias in hiring decisions
• (31:21) The role of recruiters
• (34:20) LinkedIn profile judgments
• (35:09) Petty hiring managers
• (36:11) The impact of LinkedIn photos
• (36:59) Recruiters' unwritten rules
• (38:51) Navigating content tone
• (41:15) Finding Mike Perdido online
• (42:05) Teal's mission and tools
• (43:31) How Mike's content creation journey led him to work with Teal.

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in...

The job market, even when the economy is robust, can be a challenging place. Knowing how to search and what prospective employers are looking for makes the search easier. But in this age of technology, having access to solid insights is a must.

Today on “Recruiting is No Joke”, we sit down with Tom Woodhams. Tom is a recognized thought leader in the recruiting space, known for his work in helping find Data and Software Engineering talent. Tom stops by today to talk trends, give resume tips, and help listeners navigate the job search terrain. 

If your job search hasn’t produced the results, you thought it would, join us for a deep dive as we expose hidden gems you might be overlooking. It’s an incredible conversation with the one and only Tom Woodhams … today on “Recruiting is No Joke.!

In this episode:

• (3:45) – Joel and Tom discuss one of his more popular posts.
• (5:00) – Joel and Tom go deep on the topic of resume tailoring. 
• (6:52) – Understanding the value of keywords in a job description.
• (7:10) – People often have challenges writing their own resumes. 
• (9:10) – Joel shares his perspective on resumes and accomplishments. 
• (10:44) – Tom shares his views on keyword filtering. 
• (12:40) – Seasoned recruiters and reading through the lines. 
• (14:50) – Joel emphasizes show not tell. 
• (18:21) – The conversation moves to the intricacies of the application process. 
• (19:00) – Tom opens up about Easy Apply. 
• (23:51) – Possible changes to the traditional interview process. 
• (28:01) – Conversations on remote work and employee sentiments. 
• (31:53) – Recruiting and remote work are discussed.
• (33:10) – The conversation turns to the voice employees found during COVID.
• (34:19) – Joel mentions that employees want flexibility. 
• (37:37) – Tom believes hybrid is the new remote.
• (38:34) – Tom gives jobseekers his best piece of advice. 

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Super excited for Episode 3 of Recruiting is no Joke.

Join Nick Martuscelli Talent Director from Barstool Sports

We will be hearing about:

His journey to his current role,

Life as a talent Director,

His biggest Challenges,

How he is using his brand to boost recruiting and

So much more.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

James has been in the TA space since 2007. He started in the Agency space and currently works for Epicor as the Global VP of Talent. I'm looking forward to catching up and learning about his journey and thoughts on the current market. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. 

Candidate Experience has been getting more attention in the last few years and rightly so.

With all the attention there are now companies that are being to help with this issue.

From Ghosting to poor feedback the issues are clear.

Well, tune into Wednesday's episode of Recruiting is No Joke where I'll be talking with Kyle Connors CEO and Co-founder of Candidate.FYI

We will be discussing the current state of candidate experience and what he's doing to change it for the better!

Add this event to your calendar so you can catch it live.

Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show:

Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.

See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Ginette Harvey, a seasoned talent acquisition expert with nearly two decades in the industry. Ginette shares her journey from unexpectedly falling into recruitment to leading a multi-million dollar business, launching her own diversity consultancy, and now building a global blockchain talent acquisition company.

The conversation dives deep into the power of human connection in an AI-driven world, the importance of social selling, and how recruitment businesses must pivot in the face of changing technology. Ginette also opens up about the challenges of scaling a company, hiring the right talent, and why she believes business success boils down to having a solid, repeatable formula.

And of course, we couldn’t ignore the latest buzz in the business world! Joel and Ginette unpack Elon Musk’s controversial email demanding federal employees justify their jobs, the shifting dynamics of leadership, and Klarna’s embarrassing AI blunder—where the company laid off two-thirds of its customer service team, only to realize humans are still essential.

If you’re in recruiting, leadership, or just love a good industry shake-up, this episode is packed with insights, laughs, and a no-nonsense look at where work is headed.

In this episode:

(00:00:03) Introduction to the Podcast

(00:01:03) Guest Introduction

(00:01:45) Ginette’s Recruitment Journey

(00:02:58) Setting Up a U.S. Business

(00:03:22) Transition to Consulting

(00:04:24) Global Nature of Blockchain

(00:06:06) Importance of Human Connection

(00:06:52) AI's Impact on Recruitment

(00:08:16) Building Relationships Post-Pandemic

(00:09:20) Adaptability in Recruitment

(00:11:05) Success Formula in Recruitment

(00:13:01) Hiring Practices and Turnover

(00:15:35) Market Challenges and Opportunities

(00:16:56) Adapting Business Development Strategies

(00:18:43) Agility in Business

(00:19:53) News Discussion: Elon Musk's Email

(00:20:54) The Importance of Motivation in the Workplace

(00:22:32) The Impact of Leadership Styles

(00:26:26) The Role of AI in Customer Service

(00:27:23) Reality Check on AI Chatbots

(00:30:05) Balancing AI and Human Interaction

(00:35:37) The Value of Human Connections

(00:37:17) Guiding Principles for Relationship Building

(00:39:11) The Lost Art of Adding Value

(00:40:13) Upcoming Events in Blockchain and AI

(00:41:01) Connecting with Jeanette

(00:41:22) Closing Remarks

(00:41:54) Final Thoughts

About Ginnette Harvey

Ginnette Harvey is a seasoned recruitment entrepreneur with over 17 years of experience in the staffing industry. In 2021, she co-founded BlocHaus, a leading blockchain recruitment firm dedicated to connecting exceptional talent with pioneering organizations in the blockchain sector.

Prior to founding BlocHaus, Ginnette played a pivotal role in the growth of SThree's North American business, serving as a founding member and ascending to the executive team and U.S. board during her 15-year tenure. 

In 2021, she launched Harper & Gray, a company committed to helping organizations diversify their workforce and promote diversity, equity, and inclusion (DE&I) in the workplace. 

Recognized for her contributions to the staffing industry, Ginnette was named one of the top 100 most influential leaders in staffing in North America by Staffing Industry Analysts. She also serves on the Women's Leadership Council for the American Staffing Association and is a certified professional...

Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guest is Omar Khateeb founder of JobPixel. Job Pixel is an easy-to-use video branding platform that empowers brands to collect, distribute, and engage the world with authentic video. Companies can easily request videos from their employees, customers, or even job candidates. Whether you want to engage your customers, attract talent, or just have an easy way to collect and leverage video for your organization, JobPixel is making video accessible to companies. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Have you ever wondered how your recruitment process could be transformed for the better?

In today's dynamic business landscape, where time is of the essence and competition for top talent is fierce, traditional recruitment methods may fall short of meeting the demands of modern organizations. But what if there was a way to streamline and optimize the entire process? What if technology could revolutionize the way companies attract, assess, and hire candidates?

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we shift our focus to the Unleash conference, where we engage with some of the brightest minds in the recruitment industry. In this episode, we are thrilled to share the wealth of knowledge and insights from representatives from UPS, Medtronic, and Rockwell Automation (Matt, Mark and Patrick).

In our conversation, Matt discusses the benefits of using Fountain for recruitment automation and enhancing candidate experience. Mark Smith from Medtronic shares insights on skills-based hiring, recruiting from non-traditional backgrounds for roles requiring dexterity, and fostering an inclusive culture. He also talks about leveraging AI to improve recruitment processes. Patrick Fenn from Rockwell Automation describes his journey in recruitment and his role in hiring for the company. The episode delves into the use of technology in recruitment and the importance of employer branding.

In this episode:

• [00:00:49] Automation and improving candidate experience
• [00:02:42] High-volume hiring and process changes
• [00:04:32] Candidate experience and surveys
• [00:05:44] Enhancing candidate communication
• [00:10:55] Leadership and candidate experience
• [00:12:33] Data and predictive analysis
• [00:16:11] Employer branding and hiring at Medtronic
• [00:17:14] Skills-based hiring philosophy
• [00:17:36] Microscopic assembly skills
• [00:18:30] Recruiting for micro assemblers
• [00:21:37] Creating a culture for manufacturing
• [00:25:16] AI tools for recruitment
• [00:29:20] Candidate experience and AI
• [00:34:18] Global hiring responsibilities
• [00:34:45] Internship recruitment strategy
• [00:35:20] Phenomenon of internship hoarding
• [00:36:44] Candidate experience and automation
• [00:38:06] Evaluation of recruitment automation tools
• [00:39:06] Recruiter feedback and AI adoption
• [00:39:51] Advanced CRM and pre-matching tools
• [00:40:36] Recruiter workload and trust building
• [00:41:28] Recruiter-manager relationship and transparency

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

Welcome to episode 10 of Recruiting is no joke podcast

I am pumped to be joined by Jessica Williams, MIPH, HRPM, SHRL, CMHR, SPHR, SHRM-SCP Williams and Kim Schell from Refine Labs.

Refine labs are all over Linkedin. Jessica is no different, she is leading by example and has some of the most insightful content I've seen. Kim has also had a few viral posts - A layoff post comes to mind 😉

Join us as we discuss their journies into recruiting,

How content helps with candidate flow,

DEI and what they are doing from the front lines and much much more!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

With 20+ years of Executive experience in People Strategy and HR, Barbie is not your typical CHRO. She's taken her experience and translated it into building a thriving business supporting others who are doing the same. As a Fractional CHRO/CPO, She helps small to mid-sized organizations during times of transition and transformation to build actionable and sustainable People Strategies that drive business goals. Barbie has almost 50k followers on Linkedin and creates great content and valuable insights that are authentic. Please drop by and say hi!!! Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.

Welcome to Episode 17 of the Recruiting is no Joke podcast -

This week I welcome Melanie Naranjo VP of People at Ethena. Melanie has been in the talent space since 2015 and has quickly risen to a high level. She is now the VP of People at Ethena a compliance training platform.

Join us as we discuss how she got started in the people space and her journey into leadership.

Thanks to Brighthire.com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Are you still clinging to the belief that a polished resume is your golden ticket to landing that dream job? It’s time to rethink. In today’s whirlwind of recruitment trends, LinkedIn updates, TikTok tips, and social media frenzy, your online presence is just as crucial as your resume. With giants like Salesforce, Walmart, and Zoom pushing people back to the office, and mouse jigglers surfacing amid heightened monitoring, not to mention the rising layoffs and burnout in healthcare, there’s so much more to consider. Ready to navigate this brutal job market? 

In this episode of "Recruiting is No Joke," we dive into the complexities of today’s job market and how social media is reshaping recruitment. We kick off the conversation with a warm introduction to Lauren Surman, founder of LWL Consulting and our insightful co-host.

The conversation explores the tension between social media and traditional resumes, particularly in light of a viral post suggesting that social media presence may outweigh resumes in hiring decisions. We analyze this notion, highlighting that while social media is crucial for visibility, resumes still hold significant value. We also cover the balancing act between client searches and business development, tackle the issue of burnout in healthcare, and offer guidance on addressing employment gaps. We wrap up by discussing return-to-office mandates, the role of leadership in cultivating office culture, and the benefits of in-person interactions. This episode provides a thorough look at the evolving recruitment landscape, blending practical insights with a touch of humor to help job seekers and recruiters navigate these challenging times.

Tune in to discover actionable tips on balancing your social media presence with your resume, insights into overcoming burnout, and strategies for thriving in the current job market.

In this episode:

• (01:03) Introduction to  Lauren Surman
• (02:10) Lauren's show overview
• (03:42) Lauren's business growth
• (04:19) Outbound recruitment strategies
• (05:33) Discussion on resume vs. social media 
• (07:09) Lauren's take on social media's importance vs resume
• (09:24) Impact of social media on hiring
• (10:37) LinkedIn poll results
• (14:07) Job market overview
• (15:47) Industry-specific hiring insights
• (18:07) The importance of part-time jobs
• (18:41) Navigating job interviews with side hustles
• (19:15) Bridge jobs and their value
• (19:47) Advice for presenting current work
• (20:39) Openness to employment gaps
• (21:49) Transparency in recruitment
• (23:02) Job market realities
• (25:33) Corporate job market trends
• (27:21) Return to office mandates
• (29:11) Tracking employee activity
• (30:42) Remote work preferences
• (31:41) Office dynamics and budget concerns
• (33:27) Leadership and office presence
• (35:26) Remote work and pizza
• (36:20) Preparing for layoffs
• (37:51) Job market anxiety
• (39:57) Candidate questions on layoffs
• (42:15) Chipotle's controversial LinkedIn promotion offering free food 
• (43:00) Misleading job applications
• (46:23) Recruitment and job boards
• (48:51) Closing remarks and Lauren's upcoming projects

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for...

Did the COVID-19 pandemic unveil more than just a health crisis? Like it or not, the pandemic exposed a myriad of challenges within our work environments that were often overshadowed by the comfort of in-person interactions. Suddenly thrust into remote work, we discovered gaps in communication, decision-making processes, and even our ability to connect meaningfully.

"Today on 'Recruiting is No Joke,' we sit down with Heba Youssef, Chief People Officer at Workweek and host of the "I Hate It Here" podcast and newsletter to delve into  the evolving landscape of recruitment and workplace dynamics.

During the sit-down, we discuss the impact of the pandemic on work environments, employee engagement, and the challenges of maintaining work-life balance. Heba emphasizes the importance of honesty in employer branding and critiques the trend of "coffee badging." We also explore the future of work, including remote and gig work, and the role of AI in HR. We wrap things up by delving into digital worker management and its ethical implications.Tune in to gain valuable insights and stay ahead in the ever-evolving world of work!

In this episode:

• (01:12) - Introduction Hebba Youssef 
• (03:28) - Impact of the pandemic on work
• (06:00) - Work culture and employer branding
• (10:39) - Coffee badging and remote work
• (12:26) - Engagement and return to office
• (15:03) - Strategies for getting employees back to the office
• (16:55) - Promotion and remote work
• (17:45) - The office and commercial real estate
• (19:05) - Remote work and inclusivity
• (20:11) - Remote work and job market trends
• (22:54) - Automation and AI in layoffs
• (24:13) - Gig economy and AI
• (25:42) - Merger of Careerbuilder and Monster
• (29:39) - AI and its limitations
• (35:00) - Upcoming events and plans
• (36:13) - The AI employee announcement
• (37:06) - Reactions to the announcement
• (38:13) - Comments on the announcement
• (39:24) - Industry frustrations
• (41:53) - Taylor Swift SEO issue
• (43:43) - HR and recruiting frustrations

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Have you ever wondered what the future holds for the job market and how technology will redefine the way we find and fill positions? Well, you're not alone. In the ever-evolving world of recruitment, staying ahead of the curve is not just a goal; it's a necessity.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Marcus Sawyerr, an expert in talent acquisition and AI technology. Marcus's journey in recruitment is a testament to the power of innovation and inclusion. 

In our conversation, we delve into the significance of AI wearables within the recruitment sphere, the ever-changing dynamics of the job market, and the critical nature of adaptability for those seeking employment.

Throughout our discussion, Marcus imparts invaluable advice on the art of networking and the crafting of a personal brand. We also examine the merits of aligning individual capabilities with the current demands of the job market. Our conversation extends to the comparison of job stability in startup environments versus established large corporations, and we highlight the escalating necessity for professionals in sectors that are experiencing a high demand but suffer from a low supply of skilled individuals.

As the episode draws to a close, we reflect on the themes of personal development and the pivotal decisions that shape one's career trajectory.

In this episode:

• (00:01:05) - Introduction to Marcus Sawyerr  
• (00:01:58) - Marcus Sawyer's experience in the recruitment space
• (00:03:03) - The evolution of AI in recruitment 
• (00:04:20) - AI Wearables and technology trends 
• (00:13:40) - The practical use cases of new technology
• (00:15:53) - Two contrasting predictions about the recruitment market  
• (00:17:49) - The nature of predictions and the need for quantitative measures 
• (00:18:38) - Big tech firms over-hiring during talent war  
• (00:19:36) - Evolution of recruiter role  
• (00:20:32) - Market-specific talent demand
• (00:21:42) -Geopolitical influence on the job market 
• (00:25:20) - Challenges in job search 
• (00:27:33) - Importance of building a network and personal brand  
• (00:30:20) - Navigating modern job search  
• (00:32:44) - Importance of in-person networking  
• (00:35:39) -The importance of strategic job search  
• (00:36:23) - The illusion of dream job scenarios and the need for realistic expectations 
• (00:36:31) - The advantages and challenges of working for a big tech firm
• (00:37:22) - Job stability in the evolving technological landscape 
• (00:38:22) - Comparison of job stability in startups versus large corporations  
• (00:39:57) - The economic value of different professions based on supply and demand.  

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He...

Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a podcast for the recruitment industry. Today I'm excited to chat with Danny Cahill - Who has spend 20+ years owning and buildingHobson Associates - One of the nation's largest privately held search firms. He also runs, According to danny is the largest online coaching system in the staffing industry. Danny is a winner of the Industry's Highest Honor, The NAPS Lifetime Achievement Award He's a Best-selling author. with Harper's Rules that won The Axiom Award for Business Fiction His latest book, an intensely personal memoir, Aging Disgracefully, is in bookstores and on Kindle and has reached Amazon best-seller status Danny is also an Award winning Playwright with Off Broadway credentials Join as we discuss Agency recruiting: What makes a good agency recruiter, how can agency recruiters adapt in tough markets and hear his perspective on what 2024 will bring us. Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Today I'm joined by Petter Ludden, the Director of recruiting for Blind a tech community where professionals share honest insights anonymously.

Join us as we chat about the current market, what candidates are saying about making moves, and of course his own journey into recruiting and tech

Thanks to our sponsor BrightHire. com, is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Go to Brighthire . com and tell them Joel sent you!

Ever wondered how working from home affects a company's ability to innovate and find new talent? The shift to remote work has changed a lot about how companies operate. From how we work together to how we hire new people, the way things are done is evolving.

Today on “Recruiting is No Joke”, we sit down with Rani Mavram, CEO of Complete. Complete is a platform for startups to manage and scale their compensation strategy, keeping cash bonuses and benefits front of mind.

During our conversation, we talk about the subtleties of remote work and its impact on innovation and recruitment. We explore the equilibrium between remote and in-office work, the critical role of company culture, and tactics for handling compensation workflows. Our discussion also delves into the importance of a company's compensation philosophy, the necessity for clarity in job postings, and our responsibility as recruiters to enlighten candidates about compensation. Moreover, we touch on how remote work influences recruiting and the creation of an inviting office atmosphere. We wrap up the episode with anticipation of delving into AI in sourcing in future discussion

In this episode:

• (01:09) – Overview of Complete
• (02:36) – The complexities of compensation packages and the need for better literacy 
• (03:45) – Nike's CEO weighs in on how remote work affects innovation
• (O5:07) –  Rani shares his take on remote work, collaboration, and innovation
• (07:23) –  Joel presents results from a LinkedIn poll about remote work
• (15:29) –  Rani talks about the importance of employee development
• (11:03) –   Rani examines how remote and in-office work settings influence recruiting
• (13:51) – The importance of an appealing office space and the hurdles of balancing remote work with office culture.
• (17:40) – The value of investing in employee development
•  (18:24) –  Rani describes an interactive offer platform's features
• (19:13) – Engagement with different sections of the offer platform
• (21:04) – Using video in recruitment to add authenticity and human connection 
• (22:51) – Increasing compensation expectations among job seekers
• (24:42) – The importance of comprehending total compensation
• (27:52) – The need to educate candidates about compensation packages
• (29:30) –  Rani explains a company's compensation philosophy and its role in attracting and retaining talent.
• (34:28) – The challenges and significance of transparency in compensation
• (36:10) – Internal pay parity and understanding pay progression over time
• (37:14) – Salary transparency
• (38:15) – Offer evaluation
• (39:14) – Empowering hiring managers
• (39:42) – The impact of remote work on innovation
• (40:17) – How to learn more about Complete
• (40:44) –  Potential future conferences and the value of resources
• (41:51)  – Upcoming AI and sourcing discussion

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and

Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke a podcast for the recruitment industry. This week I am joined by Meghan (Martinez) Immordino Sr. Director of Talent at MediaBrands. A well known advertising company based in New York. Join us as we discuss her journey in recruitment, Current market trends, How her team is leveraging technology and, Her predictions for 2024! Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guests are Alex Her, Cali O'Rourke, and James Ellis Today the format of the show will be a round table hosted by myself. We will be talking about employer branding - What is it, how does it work, and where is it going...

Thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show. Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you.

See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Did you know that the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has overestimated job numbers by nearly a million since March? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee discusses the job market, recruitment practices, and job seekers' challenges. He begins by thanking listeners for their support following the podcast's rebranding, which boosted downloads. Joel then critiques the Bureau of Labor Statistics for overestimating job numbers, highlighting the tougher-than-reported job market. He also explores "ghost jobs," where companies post openings without intent to hire, causing frustration for job seekers. Joel emphasizes the importance of realistic expectations and encourages proactive job searching.

In this episode:

• (00:03) Introduction and rebranding
• (01:13) Job market statistics
• (02:24) The reality of job market
• (03:22) Playing a video on job market
• (06:06) Interest rates and job market validation
• (07:46) Concept of ghost jobs
• (09:06) Pipelining strategy 
• (13:26) Recruiter poll on ghost jobs
• (17:05) Job application strategies
• (19:01) The great resignation prediction
• (19:52) Counter offers on the rise
• (20:41) Job market shift
• (21:35) Future hiring trends
• (25:03) September surge discussion
• (27:38) Expectations for job seekers
• (30:31) Engagement and feedback invitation
• (31:24) Upcoming events and live sessions

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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This episode is brought to you by Sourcewhale, the ultimate platform for streamlining your recruitment process and connecting with top talent efficiently. Discover how Sourcewhale can transform your hiring strategy and empower your team to thrive.

This episode of 'Recruiting is No Joke Live' takes a deep dive into the shifting landscape of recruitment. With a focus on finding common ground between technological advancements and human-centric approaches, our guests will unpack key trends and techniques reshaping the industry.

Bias Reduction with AI

We explore one of AI's most significant promises: the potential to reduce bias that has historically plagued the hiring process, aiming for a more equitable, transparent practice. How can AI improve candidate experiences and enhance job matching?

Decoding HR with People Analytics

Our experts discuss the innovative ways people analytics is transforming HR decision-making. By enabling a comprehensive understanding of the employee lifecycle, can we anticipate and address future challenges more proactively?

Human Connection in an AI-Driven World

Despite leaps and bounds within the AI space, there's a vital component that remains irreplaceable - human interaction. Our conversation grapples with the essential but often overlooked role of human touch within recruitment process automation.

In this episode

• 00:00:04: Introduction to the episode
• 00:01:07: Discussing people analytics
• 00:02:04: Using data for decision making in HR
• 00:03:42: The connection between recruitment and people analytics
• 00:04:21: The use of AI in recruitment
• 00:07:15: The application of data in an organization
• 00:08:10: Importance of doing something with the data
• 00:09:11: The future of people analytics
• 00:10:45: Remote work and office culture
• 00:15:00: Debunking the fear of AI
• 00:16:59: Importance of solving problems with AI
• 00:18:24: Potential benefits of AI for recruitment and work life balance
• 00:19:43: Learning about Technology and Accessibility
• 00:21:03: The Problem of Mundane, Repetitive Tasks in Jobs
• 00:21:28: Diversity and Bias in Job Applications
• 00:24:19: Identifying and Addressing Bias in Hiring Process
• 00:26:48: Brief Discussion on Effect of Technology in Hiring
• 00:29:41: The Need for Human Contact and Interaction in Hiring
• 00:31:41: The Positive Impact of Technology on Job Processes
• 36:57: What is People Analytics?
• 37:34: Tools and Skills for Transitioning into People Analytics
• 40:15: The Future of Data Analytics
• 43:32: The Impact of AI in Analytics
• 45:07: The Future of Job Applications
• 48:40: Advice for Startups in the Analytics Industry.
• 00:49:15: How employee experience changes with people analytics
• 00:49:44: What matters more - people or technology
• 00:50:10: Hypothetical fight: LinkedIn vs Indeed
• 00:50:51: Where to connect with the speaker
• 00:51:20: Embracing change and the power of data

About Joel...

Welcome to Recruiting is No Joke, a live show dedicated to the recruitment industry. Today's guest is Darren Bush - As the Head of TA for GFGO at Ericsson, he brings over two decades of extensive experience in the recruitment landscape. Before Ericsson, he worked in various industries, starting his career in an agency for Michael Page and later moving to Project Management teams where he implemented RPO and VMS solutions. For the past four years, has focused on Talent Acquisition, aiming to bring innovation and change to the recruitment sector. I am an active voice on LinkedIn, discussing Recruitment technology and challenging outdated hiring practices.. Thanks to BrightHire.com for sponsoring the show. BrightHire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Petar Petrov has been in recruiting for coming up to 10 years. He's worked at a number of start-ups as both a tech recruiter and now runs talent at VideaHealth a Boston-based health Series-A startup.

Everyone wants to work in the start-up and tech world but I'm not sure if most really know what it's like.

Join us as we discuss what it's like to recruit when you don't have a massive brand.

We will hear his story as well as discuss trends and challenges he is seeing with talent.

Thanks to Natalie Muchnick for joining us too!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Andrew Lewis is the head of Talent Acquisition at Higg. He has almost a decade of recruitment experience and has worked inhouse and agency. He is also a prolific poster on Linkedin where he shares his insights on Talent. Join us as we discuss his journey and challenges and get his insights on the future of TA. Please drop by and say hi!!! (Please don't ask about open jobs, DM me for that) Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter. Thanks to our newest Sponsor Teal: Teal is an all-in-one job search platform that provides job seekers with an integrated Resume Builder, Job Tracker, LinkedIn Optimization, Contact Management, and many more tools—including GPT-powered AI functionality!—to run an effective job search. Over 150,000+ people have trusted Teal to land their next job. Install their Chrome extension and get started for free at www.tealhq.com.

Are you a job seeker trying to find your way in today’s tricky job market? Let’s be real—networking can feel like the magic key to unlocking career opportunities, right? But with so many people competing for the same roles, what challenges are you bumping into? And how has remote work changed the game for us all?

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee dives into the ever-changing landscape of recruitment and job searching. He highlights the vital role of networking and shares insights from the recent Breakfast USA event in Nashville. Joel also tackles the current job market hurdles, touching on a viral story about Summer Meyers’ unconventional LinkedIn strategy. He sheds light on economic narratives that often overlook the real struggles faced by job seekers and discusses the effects of return-to-office mandates.

The episode goes further to explore generational workplace dynamics, the redefinition of professionalism, and the value of mentorship. Joel encourages you to think outside the box when job hunting.

Ready to unlock your career potential? Tune in and discover strategies to help you stand out in this competitive landscape!

In this episode:

• (00:03) Introduction to the episode
• (00:37) Live event experience
• (01:12) Value of networking
• (04:26) Viral job search story
• (08:01) Job market dynamics
• (10:43) Return to office mandate
• (13:46) Employee sentiment on office return
• (17:21) Generational workplace issues
• (19:15) Generational perspectives on professionalism
• (21:37) Mentorship in the workplace
• (22:35) Defining professionalism
• (23:31) Engagement with the audience
• (24:19) Podcast wrap-up and future plans

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Have you ever wondered how recruiters tackle the tough world of government contracting? Imagine the pressure of matching candidates to roles that require top security clearances, all while dealing with a job market that's anything but straightforward.

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Benjamin Mena, the founder of Select  Source Solutions and host of the Elite Recruiter Podcast. They dive deep into the latest trends in recruitment, with a particular focus on the government contracting sector. Benjamin shares his insights on the challenges of filling specialized positions within government jobs and the complexities that arise with the USA Jobs portal.

They also discuss the impact of AI on recruitment processes and job security, offering a glimpse into the future of recruitment roles as technology continues to evolve. The conversation shifts to the ongoing trend of layoffs in the tech industry, exploring its implications for both recruiters and job seekers.

Benjamin emphasizes the importance of networking and uncovering hidden job markets, while also touching on the role of corporate culture and identity in job satisfaction and layoffs. The discussion also covers the evolving role of cover letters and why job seekers need to be proactive and adaptable in today’s job market.

Tune in to gain valuable insights and strategies to enhance your recruitment efforts.

In this episode:

• (01:29)  Benjamin's background
• (02:44)  Content creation discussion
• (04:40)  Government contracting insights
• (05:25)  Talent supply and demand
• (06:39)  Challenges in government job applications
• (07:34)  Remote work and government jobs
• (08:14)  Corporate office space dynamics
• (09:59)  Layoffs in the tech industry
• (11:00)  Impact of AI on employment
• (12:03)  Recruiting efficiency through AI
• (13:29)  Future of recruiting teams
• (14:47)  Short-term focus of companies
• (16:44)  Market predictions and economic outlook
• (17:17)  Impact of debt on layoffs
• (17:32)  AI's role in layoffs
• (18:06)  Fear of job loss
• (19:11)  Cultural impact of layoffs
• (19:36)  Corporate cost-cutting measures
• (20:35)  Corporate culture and profit
• (21:10)  Identity and work
• (21:39)  Preparing for layoffs
• (22:14)  Balancing work and life
• (22:42)  Remote work and cost of living
• (23:40)  Cover letters discussion
• (25:39)  Hiring managers' views on cover letters
• (26:59)  Poll on cover letters
• (30:32)  AI in job applications
• (31:12)  Interview AI tools
• (32:04)  Recruitment challenges
• (33:03)  Understanding the numbers game
• (33:55)  The dangers of "one itis"
• (34:35)  Maintaining a recruitment pipeline
• (36:47)  Hidden job market insights
• (37:43)  Job market realities
• (38:28)  Effective LinkedIn outreach
• (40:07)  Recruiters' true role
• (41:01)  Learning from mistakes
• (42:17)  Being specific in requests
• (45:11)  Avoiding open-ended questions
• (47:02)  Short and direct communication
• (48:38)  The reality of recruiter workloads
• (48:55)  The ideal recruitment process
• (49:03)  Corporate restructuring...

Erin McDermott Peterson previously led Talent Acquisition and RPO for some of the most successful organizations in the world including Accenture, Aon Hewitt, and Amazon. Having led TA teams in Europe, (with 3 years as an ex-pat in Frankfurt, Germany) as well as India, and North America, and led process improvement projects with multiple SMB companies as a consultant with PeopleResults, she now translates her unique global experience as Head of Talent for Great Hill Partners, a Boston based Private Equity firm. Erin oversees talent acquisition for the firm and has the privilege of working with their 39 growth-stage portfolio companies as they scale.

Erin has a degree in Psychology from Concordia College in Minnesota and is a frequent speaker and writer on talent and career topics. She’s the founder and host of “Big Fish in the Talent Pool”, the Podcast for Talent Leaders. 

Happy 2023! After a short break, we are back with another Live episode of Recruiting is no joke.

This week I'm excited to chat with Vanesa Cotlar, MBA Cotlar, VP of People & Culture at PolicyMe a Series A funded insurance company.

Vanesa has a deep background that includes many years as a consultant to C-Level and Senior executives on corporate and business strategy.

She has been leading the people function, for the past 18 months, at PolicyMe and is an avid content creator on Linkedin always producing highly valuable content for the HR community.

Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Are we truly witnessing job growth, or is it just another statistical illusion? The U.S. August jobs report claims 142,000 new positions and a dip in unemployment to 4.2%, but can we really trust these figures? Is the much-anticipated September surge on the horizon, or simply wishful thinking? And why are recruiter job postings climbing when so many Australians are taking on multiple jobs just to get by? Could this be a sign of economic resilience—or a red flag we’re overlooking?

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke host Joel Lalgee takes a closer look at the August jobs report, questioning the accuracy of the numbers and warning that revisions could be coming. He challenges the idea that 142,000 jobs were actually created and stresses the importance of digging deeper into the data for a clearer understanding of the job market.

Joel also explores the emotional toll job searching can take, sharing the struggles of job seekers who face rejection after countless applications. He offers practical advice on staying resilient and tips for those labeled "overqualified" to better tailor their applications and showcase their true value.

Wrapping up, Joel discusses the growing trend of people in Australia balancing multiple jobs and the risk of burnout that comes with it. 

Curious to know what these trends mean for your career or business? Tune in to Recruiting is No Joke, and don’t forget to subscribe for more insights on navigating today’s complex job market!

In this episode:

(01:16) August jobs report discussion

(01:46) August jobs report video

(02:53) Job market skepticism

(03:36) Job seeker experiences video

(05:28) Job search challenges highlighted

(06:35) Analysis of job types added

(08:32) Understanding unemployment rate

(10:12) Critique of common job search advice

(12:07) Job market realities

(13:55) Economic overview and layoffs to cut costs

(14:53) Introduction to September surge

(16:29) Reality check on September surge

(18:39) Conclusion on job market trends

(19:27) Discussing the August jobs report

(21:14) Emerging job trends in Australia

(22:08) Impact of extra jobs on workers

(23:40) Closing remarks and future topics

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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I am delighted to have Britteny Soto, Director of Talent Acquisition, Justice Equity Diversity, and Inclusion & Enablement for Encamp.

Join us as we discuss her journey to her current position,

What TA struggles she's facing,

What she cares about most in her role,

And why she loves what she does!

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Welcome back to another episode of Recruiting is no Joke - This week I am super excited to chat with Katie Conti - VP of TA at Healthedge a digital transformation company in the healthcare space. Katie has a strong resource and consulting background that has helped her immensely in transforming the TA team. I'm excited to hear about her transition into talent acquisition to hear her perspective on how teams can operate in a lean and efficient manner. Thanks to BrightHire com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Today I am joined by Bonnie Dilber - Recruiting Manager at Zapier

Not only is Bonnie leading recruitment strategy at Zapier, but she is also an avid poster on Linkedin and is not afraid to discuss hard-hitting topics.

She has over 50,000 followers and for good reason - She gives advice to job seekers, takes on remote work life, and shares insights into Culture and DEI.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Are you tired of sending generic outreach emails into the void, hoping for a response? Do you find yourself lost in the sea of sales pitches flooding your inbox? In today's hyper-connected digital landscape, personalization is no longer just a bonus—it's a necessity. As the importance of personalization in outreach becomes increasingly evident, businesses are seeking innovative ways to connect with their target audience and stand out from the crowd.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we sit down with Scott Littrell, the VP of Sales at SourceWhale, to delve into the intricacies of sales, cold calling, and the power of personalization in outreach. SourceWhale is the industry-leading business development and headhunting platform built for modern-day recruitment.

We discuss the challenges of sales and cold calling, highlighting the necessity of personalization in outreach to boost reply rates. Scott shares his strategies for breaking into large accounts, emphasizing the importance of understanding the market and targeting the right accounts. We also discuss the role of content creation on platforms like LinkedIn, with Scott advising sales teams to post valuable content to build relationships. The episode provides actionable insights into effective sales strategies and the evolving landscape post-pandemic.

In this episode:

• [00:57] Introduction to Scott
• [01:13] Introducing today’s topic (Sales and Cold Calling)
• [01:39] SourceWhale's services  
• [02:07] Multi-channel approach  
• [03:02] Challenges in outreach  
• [05:02] Introduction of SourceWhale's personalized outreach capabilities  
• [06:12] The power of personalization  
• [10:38] Content creation and influencer marketing  
• [13:08] The importance of value-driven content 
• [15:39] Focus on best accounts  
• [18:21] Personalization and outreach  
• [19:06] Post-pandemic strategy  
• [20:05] Effective outreach strategies  
• [21:26] Content creation and outreach  
• [25:16] Cold calling and multi-channel outreach  
• [26:41] Data analysis on cold calling  
• [32:28] Challenges and success in cold calling  
• [35:42] Authenticity and value in sales  
• [35:49] Motivation and confidence in sales 
• [36:29] Effective cold calling  
• [38:52] Cold call openers  
• [42:24] Follow-up and relationship building  
• [44:39] Adapting sales strategies  
• [45:02] Closing and networking  
• [46:16] Conclusion and call to action

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Welcome to Recruiting is no joke a live stream and podcast dedicated to the recruitment industry! This week I am joined by the Impact Networking recruitment team - Joe Skurski and Michael Borland: We will be discussing how to elevate the candidate experience, attract talent against the big-name brands and how they are using AI and new tech in their recruitment process. As always drop by and say hi! Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

Ready to dive deep into recruitment strategies and tech innovations that are shaping talent acquisition? In this special episode recorded live at RecFest USA, Joel Lalgee sits down with Amy Cropper from TriCentis, Asud Anderson from Equinix, and Brian Fink from McAfee. You’ll hear unfiltered insights on how these leaders are using AI to revolutionize sourcing, build global talent pipelines, and address the ever-changing landscape of recruiting.

Brian Fink kicks things off by sharing how McAfee’s AI-driven deepfake detection is enhancing tech hiring and protecting digital identities. He emphasizes the value of staying excited in the recruiting field and the impact of building tech teams aligned with a strong mission.

Amy Cropper then delves into strategies for transforming hiring at a scaling B2B company, sharing candid advice on navigating challenges when budgets are tight, and the power of transparency in attracting top talent.

Asad Anderson wraps up by exploring how Equinix manages global sourcing through personalized outreach, data-driven strategies, and the art of building trust with passive candidates. He shares practical tips for crafting authentic employer branding and ensuring your EVP resonates across diverse global markets.

Don’t miss these actionable takeaways and expert perspectives on what’s next in talent acquisition!

In this episode:

00:00:04: Introduction to the episode

00:00:37: Recap of last week's live interviews

00:01:20: Introduction of guests for this episode

00:02:04: Live from RecFest USA

00:02:22: Interview with Brian Fink from McAfee Security

00:02:57: Discussion on the September surge in recruitment

00:03:30: Brian Fink on McAfee's new deep fake detector

00:04:41: Insights from RecFest and the importance of D&I

00:05:47: Recruitment marketing and employer branding

00:06:34: Strategies for building community in recruitment marketing

00:08:43: How to start with content creation for talent leaders

00:09:36: Using mediums like Medium for engaging developers

00:10:41: Employer branding mistakes and using video

00:12:13: Crafting job descriptions and storytelling

00:13:47: Future of recruitment skills and technology

00:15:51: Introduction to AI and Personalization

00:16:13: Strategies for Authentic Communication

00:17:15: Techniques for Personal Video Messaging

00:17:33: Predictions for 2025 in Hiring

00:19:01: Where to Find Brian Fink Online

00:21:45: Introduction to Amy Cropper from TriCentis

00:23:41: Discussing AI at RecFest

00:24:39: Automating Basic Recruiting Tasks

00:25:03: Use Cases and AI in Recruiting

00:26:12: Transformations at TriCentis

00:26:55: Preparing for Future Growth

00:27:49: Key Strategies for New Leadership Roles

00:29:16: Engaging Candidates with a Growth Story

00:30:31: Honest Conversations About Startups

00:30:33: Discussion on layoffs and the unpredictability of the job market

00:31:01: Advice on personal development and networking for job seekers

00:31:23: Growing a company in uncertain times

00:31:30: Thoughts and predictions for the talent acquisition space in 2025

00:32:21: Strategies for optimizing...

Welcome to another episode of recruiting is no joke - a podcast for TA and HR professionals.

This week I'm excited to chat with Todd Raphael a recruitment content legend who is currently working with Skyhive an exciting HR tech company.

Todd has a unique perspective on the recruitment industry and market and has been involved in marketing, business development, and events.

He spent 14 years with ERE and led all the media and events. He is extremely well-known and connected in the TA space and I'm honored to have him as a guest.

Thanks to BrightHire. com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Have you ever applied for the perfect job, only to realize it never really existed?

What if the job market isn’t just competitive—but haunted? Across job boards and career sites, ghost jobs linger—positions that were never meant to be filled or were quietly abandoned by companies. But job seekers aren’t the only ones being deceived. Fake candidate profiles are also flooding the market, leaving recruiters chasing applicants who don’t exist.

These digital phantoms—jobs and candidates alike—waste time, drain energy, and blur the line between reality and illusion. Are you applying for a job that was never real? Or are recruiters screening candidates who don’t even exist?

In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, host Joel Lalgee sits down with Stephen McGrath, Product Experience Manager at Poetry, to uncover the truth about ghost jobs and their impact on candidates. With over 15 years in recruitment—spanning agency, RPO, and in-house roles—Stephen shares deep industry insights, breaking down the role of RPO and ATS systems, the rise of AI in hiring, and the growing disconnect between companies and job seekers.

Joel and Stephen also tackle the recruitment industry’s biggest challenges—including layoffs, technology shifts, and the often misunderstood role of recruiters. They explore how humor, authenticity, and video content can reshape recruiters’ reputations while bridging the gap between candidates and employers. From harsh candidate feedback to the realities of modern hiring, this episode dives deep into the evolving world of recruitment—offering transparency, empathy, and a fresh perspective on the future of hiring.

In this episode:

(00:00:03) – Introduction to the episode

(00:01:06) – Guest introduction: Stephen McGrath

(00:02:04) – Understanding RPO

(00:03:34) – Role of ATS

(00:03:37) – Overview of Canada ID

(00:04:39) – Introduction to ghost jobs

(00:05:56) – Candidate experience issues

(00:07:22) – Overview of Poetry

(00:08:58) – AI in recruitment

(00:09:50) – Evaluating AI tools

(00:12:32) – Challenges in recruitment processes

(00:17:54) – Trends in contract work

(00:19:23) – Recruitment technology insights

(00:20:08) – Job market dynamics

(00:20:48) – Layoff patterns

(00:21:48) – Transparency in business

(00:23:01) – Employee loyalty and stability

(00:24:03) – Cultural misrepresentation

(00:25:32) – Recruiter challenges

(00:27:39) – Caring in recruitment

(00:29:02) – Career guidance initiatives

(00:29:56) – The recruiter's care

(00:30:50) – Recruiters' bad rap

(00:31:27) – Hurtful comments

(00:31:52) – Disgruntled candidate reads

(00:32:37) – Changing the narrative

(00:33:21) – Authenticity in recruitment

(00:34:44) – Video content focus

(00:36:37) – Humor in recruitment

(00:37:54) – Connecting with candidates

(00:40:07) – Final thoughts and advice

About Stephen McGrath

Stephen McGrath is a seasoned recruitment professional and technology innovator based in Glasgow, Scotland. With over 15 years of experience in the industry, he has worked across agency, RPO, and in-house recruitment before transitioning into recruitment technology. Stephen played a key role in building Canada ID, which was later acquired by Isomers. Now, as the product experience manager at Poetry, he focuses on gathering feedback and refining technology to enhance the recruitment process. Passionate about improving recruiter efficiency, Stephen continues to bridge the gap between recruitment and

Welcome to Episode #2 of Recruiting is no joke.

This week's guest Adam Walters heads up recruiting for Polygon.io a series A funded fintech start-up!

Join us for this afternoon session where we'll hear what start-up recruiting life is really like and get his take on how to attract top talent.

Adam has a strong background in agency recruitment focusing on tech startups, then we had an offer he couldn't refuse, heading up talent at a fintech startup.

Here is his story.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

Like it or not, the recruitment landscape is evolving rapidly. Success now requires embracing advanced technology alongside understanding human connections. By blending AI for efficient data handling with the essential human touch of relationship building and niche market expertise, recruiters can thrive in this changing industry.

Today on "Recruiting is No Joke," we are joined by Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka, CEO and co-founders of Hire Genius, an essential all-in-one cloud-based recruitment toolkit. Our discussion delves into the dynamic recruitment landscape, highlighting the crucial roles of relationship-building, adapting post-COVID, and leveraging AI effectively.

Gary Elden OBE emphasizes that understanding client needs and building rapport are foundational for successful recruiters. Post-COVID, the recruitment market has shifted, requiring adaptability. While cold calling remains integral, Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka stress converting these into warmer relationships.

They underscore the benefits of specialization, actionable data, and navigating challenges for solo recruiters. Balancing technology and personal interactions is key, alongside focusing on niche markets for industry success. Dan Malka advocates for integrating AI meaningfully rather than superficially, cautioning against over-reliance for productivity.

Whether seasoned or starting out, insights from Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka provide valuable guidance for thriving in recruitment’s evolving landscape. Let’s dive in!

In this episode:

• [00: 51 ] Introduction to Gary Elden OBE and Dan Malka
• [01:27] Introduction to Hire Genius
• [03:26] Importance of recruitment background in developing HR technology
• [06:22] Evolution of recruiter skills 
• [08:11] The role of relationships in recruitment
• [11:47] The role of cold calling in recruitment
• [16:37] The future of networking in recruitment
• [17:51] Adapting recruitment strategies
• [18:29] Leveraging AI in recruitment workflows and coaching clients
• [19:45] End-to-end workflow automation
• [21:42] Challenges of AI adoption
• [22:38] Outsourcing and language accent
• [24:52] Efficiency and productivity
• [26:03] Actionable data and market insights
• [29:11] Management style and remote work
• [30:47] Shift in recruitment dynamics
• [33:25] Solo entrepreneurship and technology
• [34:39] Transition to recruitment consulting
• [36:06] Market challenges and learning opportunities
• [36:25] Barriers to entry
• [37:38] Challenges for job seekers

About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for recruitment. In 2019, he discovered content marketing, publishing his first posts on Linkedin. Since then, he has grown to over 400k followers, and his content has been seen over 1 billion times. In 2023, he started a business specializing in coaching recruiters, marketing consulting, and influencer partnerships.

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Welcome to Recruiting is no Joke a podcast for the recruitment industry. This week I am joined by Amit Parmer founder of Cliqify - We are chatting social media content for recruiters.

Special thanks to Metaview for sponsoring the show: Metaview is the AI assistant for interviewing. It completely removes the need for recruiters to take notes during interviews because their AI is designed to take world-class interview notes for you. See the magic for yourself for free on your first 5 interviews. Head over to www.metaview.ai/nojoke to get started.

This week's guest is Adam Rosenfield -

Adam is an experienced SaaS recruiter who specializes in scaling talent acquisition for seed stage to Series D tech companies.

His accomplishments include scaling a global team 7x, building out our diversity and inclusion plans, and working to earn a US "Best Places to Work" honor in 2022.

Adam has had agency and internal experience over the past decade and brings a ton of value.

Thank you to our Sponsors Brighthire.com the only interview platform that can help you remove bias and improve your quality of hire.

This week I welcome Mark Smith Global head of TA at Kraft. Mark has operated as a Talent Leader for over 20 years and has worked with some huge companies including Randstad, Caterpillar, Amazon, SC Johnson, and The Kraft Heinz Company.

Mark is a true leader and I'm honored to get 30 minutes with him today.

Join us as we discuss how got started in recruiting, his journey into leadership, his biggest challenges, and even dive into his predictions for the 2023 market.

Thanks to Brighthire . com for sponsoring the show. Brighthire is the fastest way to raise your quality of hire. Leading TA teams use BrightHire's interview intelligence platform to transform their quality of hire, reduce bias in every hiring decision, and unlock new insights for teams to grow smarter.

Have you ever wondered if the increasing reliance on AI in hiring is slowly eroding the very human touch that makes recruitment so personal? In this episode of Recruiting is No Joke, Joel Lalgee sits down with Jessica Begley, COO of Very, to explore key topics such as recruitment trends, employee engagement, and the role of AI in the workforce. Jessica shares her journey from Chief People Officer to Chief Operating Officer and emphasizes the importance of treating employees as individuals. The discussion covers strategies for engaging a remote workforce, the risks of AI implementation, and the crucial need for upskilling in the evolving job market. They also address recent layoffs at Workday and Meta, underscoring the emotional toll and the need for transparent communication. The conversation delves into job market segmentation, discussing the challenges faced by skilled workers, wisdom workers, and knowledge workers, while also addressing issues like overqualification for entry-level roles and the impact of job report revisions on economic decisions. Finally, they offer practical advice for job seekers on the power of networking and building meaningful professional relationships.

In this episode:

(00:00:03) Introduction to the episode

(00:01:38) Guest introduction

(00:03:03) Jessica's career journey

(00:04:41) Importance of people in business

(00:09:26) Engagement strategies

(00:10:38) Creating a people-centric culture

(00:13:45) Intentionality in engagement

(00:15:34) Recent layoffs discussion

(00:16:01) Impact of AI on jobs

(00:17:56) Identifying replaceable jobs

(00:19:33) AI in corporate strategy

(00:20:18) Implications of AI on workforce

(00:21:12) Upskilling employees

(00:22:14) Zapier's hiring philosophy

(00:23:40) Meta layoffs and employee perception

(00:24:20) Communication and transparency issues

(00:25:31) Skill set definition challenges

(00:29:57) Understanding job segmentation

(00:30:03) Challenges for wisdom workers

(00:30:41) Networking for executive roles

(00:31:10) The role of knowledge workers

(00:32:01) Job growth analysis

(00:33:01) Hiring challenges in trades

(00:34:15) Overqualification issues

(00:34:36) Job report revisions

(00:36:03) Economic decisions impact

(00:37:07) Interconnected economic systems

(00:38:28) Government worker exits

(00:39:09) Networking advice

(00:41:27) Long game mentality in networking

(00:42:23) In-person interaction opportunities

(00:43:09) Sustainable networking practices

(00:45:24) Closing remarks

About Jessica Begley

Jessica Begley is the COO of Very, a leading provider of IoT hardware services. With a diverse background in human resources, Jessica transitioned from Chief People Officer to Chief Operating Officer, bringing her expertise in people management, employee engagement, and organizational development. She is passionate about fostering people-centric cultures and navigating the evolving landscape of technology and recruitment.

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About Joel Lalgee 

Joel Lalgee is an internationally known recruitment leader and coach who has helped thousands of recruiters build their brands online. In 2015, Joel started recruiting for a small start-up agency in Milwaukee. He quickly found his passion for...