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To support the show and access our Royals Deep Dive episodes, plus our 100+ bonus episodes on Patreon, click here! Part 1 of our royals deep dive recapping The Palace Papers by Tina Brown! We get into many overlooked parts of royals history, like the true meaning behind Meghan's dark eye make up and low bun during her sit down with Oprah, how Princess Diana got tricked into her tell all interview with Martin Bashir, the tumultuous childhood of Prince Philip, and the drama at Diana's funeral that had the queen fuming for years.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren speaks to us across the airwaves from Portugal. Listen along as she gives us all the details on her business class transatlantic flight in true nouveau riche, basic b fashion. Chanler discusses her upcoming plans for her birthday and strategies for avoiding a meltdown. Finally, we intro a new segment, "What Lauren's Reading." This week, Lauren's tome of choice is "T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us" by Carole Hooven. The book seeks to illustrate how the hormone to testosterone can explain the documented, cross-cultural differences between men and women. We start at the beginning, though, and chat about how ancient practices of castration were the first indicators of a powerful substance in a man's nether regions ultimately leading to the discovery of Testosterone. Buckle tf in. For an extra weekly episode of Pop Apologists every Friday, check out our Patreon where you can subscribe and keep the podcast alive. Visit http://patreon.com/popapologists for an additional hour of nonsense each week. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and Lauren catch up from across the pond. First, the gals dig into Denise Richard's most recent IG post and ask one burning question: wtf is happening on IG these days? Then, they regale each other with transatlantic tales from the weekend and discuss the disturbing news about Afghanistan. (Move over, Christiane Amanpour!) Finally, they embark on NYT's 36 questions that lead to love. Do they want to be famous? Would they rather have the body or mind of a 30 yr old forever? You know their answers already, but listen along as the Pop Apologists confirm their reputations as thirsty, shallow bitches. Buckle in, bb's. Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Thank you to Athena Club for making the most incredible shave kits and sponsoring this episode! Go to athenaclub.com and use code POP for 20% off! BEST RAZOR OF ALL TIME. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we dive into the disturbing, sick world of beauty standards on social. Why are celebs like Denise Richards posting photos of themselves that are as detached from reality as Chanler's spending habits? What impact are filters that distort and "enhance" having on young girls and women? What do we do when instagram makes us feel like total shit about our bodies, faces, and lives? What is the difference between plastic surgery and an edited photo if both aren't "real?" We have an honest conversation about the way instagram has changed our perception of ourselves, our experiences, and what we do to safeguard our mental health in this brave new IG era. Buckle in, baby! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jen Shah has surrendered herself to prison and we debate whether Lauren would go full lesbo or not behind bars. We chat Kate’s tragic BAFTA lewk, Megan Fox’s instagram antics, and Lauren shares a recent marital dispute in line at Wendy’s. Finally, we question a deep mystery of our time: why doesn’t the VPR cast seem richer? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Lauren is away on the high seas, Chanler invites her newest and hands down funniest friend Joe Peacock on the pod to do a complete critical analysis of Taylor Swift. Before we get into the woman of the hour (of a lifetime really) we discuss some iconic pop cultural moments from Joe's youth, e.g. Britney Spears Baby One More Time album release, Reese Witherspoon and Ryan Phillipe's demise and why he none of his offspring follow him back on IG. We juxtapose the thirst of Ryan Phillipe with the wonderful subtlety of Brad Falchuck's social media ~ a Pop Apologist classic ~ . Then we get to the matter at hand and discuss our thoughts on her first self-titled album, Taylor Swift. Then we reflect on Joe Jonas's massive impact on Fearless and all the T-Swift former flames scorned and immortalized on Speak Now. *Swifties and stans, beware, we do not hold back. Please also note that we accept full responsibility for listening to the "stolen version" of some of these albums, it was a necessary evil for the production of this podcast. Screw Scooter Braun. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are back with a full run down of Lauren's trip to Greece, from Mykonos to Paros, Antiparos, Milos, and finally Santorini. Lauren gives her most prescient travel tips for each location. Which was a hit and which you could skip, and what to budget for when hitting land of yachts and feta. Chanler regales us with a truly harrowing trip to the airport, getting her apartment in NYC, and recent quirky moments staying at Deb's. It's a classic catch up between sisters finished out with some top line commentary on Scott Disick's DM to Younes and his inevitable break up with Amelia. Buckle in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and I get into a little postmortem about last week's controversial episode. We chat poor financial habits and the reasons why we blame our parents for our ineptitudes as grown adults. We get into the Gabby Petito murder and discuss the disturbing timeline of events that led to her remains being found in Yellowstone. Finally, we touch on the new LulaRich doc and discuss whether or not the state should be involved in protecting people from MLM schemes. Buckle in, bb's! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp - Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip - Start getting rewards for brushing your teeth today, go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a quip Smart Electric Toothbrush! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan discuss the latest news on Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez’s marriage and speculate why Ben and Jennifer might be selling their $60 million dollar home if it’s not for a divorce. The gals chat about the upcoming E! reality series starring Denise Richards and her daughters and their questions about the family’s digital income streams. They dive into TJ Holmes’s recent comments about Amy Robach and chat about which details strain credulity. Lauren and Chan discuss the statements from a Matty Healy source that furthers the conclusion that Matty is truly the smallest man who ever lived. The gals discuss Donald Trump’s recent statements about Taylor Swift and what kind of presidential debate they can get on board with. Finally, Lauren and Chan give their thoughts on Travis Kelce’s recent car wash video and why they think it’s such a refreshing change for Taylor.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Men you should run from. Yep, that's right – this week we are diving into all the unsavory characters you will meet in your dating years that you should run from like your life and sanity depend on it. Think it's a good idea to date someone who plays an instrument? Think again. What about a man who loves a casual flip flop? *Shudder* We are here to bring you the unvarnished truth about the wolves in hot guy clothing who will inevitably find a way into your heart unless you steal yourself against their advances with the solemn truth-telling extolled on this episode. Buckle in, ladies. 🚩🚩🚩🚩 Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are joined by Jena Kingsley, host of Dear Media's Social Studies podcast, to discuss the things people love but, frankly, we hate. This includes charcuterie boards, people who post on LinkedIn, the demand for tipping everywhere you go, grocery store check out donation requests, the big water bottle trend, and more. Join us for a full hour of toxic negativity and leave refreshed and renewed with the stunning knowledge that you are not the only person annoyed by virtually everything. Buckle in! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler and I bemoan our shared agony over starting a retinol regimen, as we are both undergoing the infamous retinol burn. We then dive into the Kravis engagement; that's right, our favorite punk rock couple, Travis Barker and Kourtney Kardashian, are betrothed! 🌹☠️💎 After celebrating this happy news and dissecting Kourtney's relationship history, we turn to darker subject matter: the breakdown of Lala Kent and Randall Emmett. We walk our listeners through their relationship timeline, revisit the homewrecking behavior that began their relationship, and discuss our thoughts on whether this separation will last. Finally, we get into the recent nuptials of Meghan King Edmonds to Cuffe Owens, nephew to President Biden (who attended the ceremony!) and also dish on the reaction from Meghan's ex husband and possibly the devil incarnate, Jim Edmonds, and his likewise malevolent fiancé, Kortnie O'Connor, as published in the Daily Mail. Buckle tf in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You asked, we answered! This week, Chanler and I answer all your questions including what do we do for a living and what items we splurge on vs save on. We take a swing at heavy hitters like "Are fancy coffee machines worth it or should I stick with my drive through Starbucks?" and "What was it like being named Chanler growing up?" We give our book recommendations, life recommendations, etc. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan have a deep dive with everything you need to know about Sherri Papini, the California woman who carried out a real-life “Gone Girl” hoax. On November 2, 2016, Sherri went out for a run and mysteriously vanished without a trace. Three weeks later, a badly beaten Sherri was found on the side of the road 150 miles away from home, claiming that she had kidnapped and tortured by her captors. Listen as Lauren and Chan discuss the elaborate web of lies that Sherri Papini told everyone and how she managed to keep up the charade for years. Hear what happened after Sherri’s lies caught up to her and learn about the chilling signs which show Sherri’s concerning behavior is nothing new.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices (Test 2.) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we sit down with our beloved sister, Courtney, to chat about the importance of maintaining a sense of self and identity while raising kids. Courtney shares her fertility journey and the wisdom she wishes she had had during her years struggling to get pregnant and then white-knuckling through her three pregnancies. We chat the importance of putting energy into your relationship with your partner while raising young children and how clear priorities can help set a foundation of peace in the home. Next week we will be back with part two of our conversation on all things bouncing back after giving birth, fitness, and nutrition. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our reaction to New York Mag's article, "How to Behave" and a selection of our own rules of behavior on polite decorum. Tune in to hear all our thoughts on allergies at dinner parties, social rules around A-listers, texting, plane behavior, tipping, & more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains graphic details concerning the death of Laci and Conner Peterson. In a two part series, Lauren and Chan are diving into the disappearance of Laci Peterson, a California woman who went missing on Christmas Eve 2002 when she was 8 months pregnant. Her husband Scott Peterson was convicted of her murder in 2004, but there are remaining questions that have some people wondering if it is possible that Scott did not actually kill Laci and their unborn baby, Conner. In part two of this two part series, the gals discuss Scott Peterson’s continuous lies about his affair with Amber Frey, the discovery of Laci and Conner’s bodies,  Scott’s arrest and trial, and Scott’s efforts to prove his innocence. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* First, Chan gives us an update on our wisened Facebook Marketplace friend (the saga continues...)! Lauren shares about a tumble in the streets of PR that almost sent her to the ER....and finally, we give our thoughts on Prince Harry's 60 Minutes interview and his appearance on the Colbert Report. Thanks for being Patreonies! <3 <3 <3  CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we get into a passionate conversation about the musical genius and queen of cringe herself, Ms. Taylor Swift. We discuss Taylor’s inability to evolve in her taste level beyond the 9th grade and question her aesthetic choices in all things Red (Taylor’s Version). Chanler shares her emotional journey watching the short film and I hold nothing back as I question the last three minutes of what was otherwise perfectly enjoyable 2014 Tumblr porn. Finally, I share a recent experience being rightfully humiliated by Sharon from customer service at Delta Airlines. Buckle in, baby. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to support the show, access 100+ bonus episodes, and and listen to our coverage of the Johnny v. Amber trial in full on Patreon! Camille v. Amber continues as Amber's cross examination takes up the majority of day 17 and finally concludes. Listen as we dissect every detail, including: - the terrifying dagger shown to the jury that Amber gave Johnny in 2012 - the absurd audio where Amber tells Johnny repeatedly to "s" her "d"  - the moment when Camille offended Amber - the horrible things Johnny told iO about Amber - Amber slipping up and seemingly admitting she leaked photos to TMZ - Testimony from Rocky Pennington, ex-bff of Amber and witness to the trailer park incident John Bledsoe, our favorite legal expert, even calls in and weighs in on the matter at hand! xx Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today’s deep dive is a double feature: the love story of not just one, but two of our US Presidents and their wives. This episode focuses very little on politics and a lot on love. No matter which side of the aisle you find yourself, buckle in and enjoy these two love stories. Listen in to hear all about how Barack and Michelle Obama met, fell in love, endured eight years as the First Family, and found each other once again outside of the White House. Next, hear all about Donald and Melania Trump’s love story, which has the common thread of enduring harsh criticism and media speculation, all the while remaining by each other’s sides.  Lauren and Chan have a fantastic announcement! Casita Jewelry is one of Lauren and Chan’s favorite jewelry brands, and they are so excited that Casita Jewelry is the August sponsor for Pop Apologists! Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we posit an aching question: Is the Golden Bachelor, Gerry Turner, potentially too good to be true? We are then thrilled to welcome our guest Zack Peter from “No Filter By Zack Peter” to the podcast to discuss everything Real Housewives! We chat all about RHONY and why Zack would give the season a B- , Bethenny’s Reality Reckoning and what we think Bethenny is really after, and RHOBH’s unraveling marriages. We also touch on a Dorit and PK conspiracy theory, and Zack’s interview with Erika Jayne, where no topic was off-limits.  Click here to try the most magical gummies by EarlyBird CBD! Use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan have prepared a deep dive on the trial of Karen Read, a Massachusetts woman who is being accused of murdering her Boston police officer boyfriend, John O’Keefe. The gals give an overview of this ongoing trial, which is the opposite of an open-and-shut case. They discuss the many details that are not adding up from his trial, including deleted phone calls and text messages, middle of the night internet searches, a potential police conspiracy and massive coverup, a federal investigation, and so much more. This case has Lauren and Chan truly wondering what could have happened to John O’Keefe, since the evidence is anything but clear and convincing.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com  to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp.  Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/stunning today and get 10% off your first month.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we answer some of your burning questions. We give our analysis of the show Bad Vegan and Alec and Hilaria Baldwin’s ever-expanding family. Hear who has an upstairs face vs. a downstairs face, as well as who had some subtle work done recently. We discuss who should receive the credit for our illustrious vocabularies, and Lauren’s childhood pastime of attending academic conferences in preparation for life as a career poet. Lauren shares why she lives in Puerto Rico. We talk about the true struggle of early to mid-twenties and trying to find their respective career paths. Also, hear cautionary tales of the cool, glamorous jobs that are actually life-sucking hell holes. We chat growing up in Orange County and compare East Coast vs. West Coast snobbery. Finally, we chat our first luxury purchases, which leads to the single greatest gift Lauren ever gave to Chanler. Spoiler: it wasn’t a luxury. Buckle in! Lauren and Chan’s morning skincare routines and favorite face products. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals break down all that we know about the chilling University of Idaho murders. Listen to the timeline of events leading up to the murders, how law enforcement were able to zero in on alleged murderer Bryan Kohberger, and what new details have emerged since his arrest.  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are diving into listener questions as well as some hot topics! We cover Kylie Jenner's dramatic weight loss, debuted at Paris Fashion Week, as well as the long-awaited reveal of her baby son's name....Aire, as in "billionAIRE" 😏 We chat the TikTok rumor that Liam cheated on Miley 14 times, and finally dig into your q+a including our most embarrassing moments, how to get your boyfriend to propose, our advice for getting out of a slump, and more! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Covid bride quandaries. Long distance relationships. This week we are giving our uncredentialed advice on all the pickles our listeners have found themselves in. We chat destination wedding drama, how to deal with your boyfriend's baby momma, whether or not to pursue an MBA, body positivity struggles, and how to not be bitter when everyone around you is getting engaged. Finally, we discuss how soon is too soon to leave a new job, and the dark time Lauren donned a neon orange visor to sling smoothies at her mortifying Jamba Juice job in high school. Buckle in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While the normal episode is coming out a day late this week, the gals were not going to leave listeners hanging! Enjoy this episode with the not only a Q&A from Lauren, but also some riveting storytelling from the frosting on the Bledsoe family cinnamon roll, the one and only Wyatt Grow!Listen as Wyatt regales Lauren and Chan with two riveting tales from David the Unicycler, a Nantucket staple, one of which includes a very famous face. Lauren then gives some advice from listener questions: What’s a good side hustle idea for a recently single mom? When is a good time for someone to try Ozempic? How to tell in-laws that you need some space? What do you say when your sister goes overboard with lip fillers? How do you handle it when it feels like your life has fallen apart? Lauren then finished out the episode by answering some quick listener questions: An unexpected Puerto Rico girl’s trip itinerary Her take on manifesting Her favorite book Her favorite gift to give a friend How many children she would like to have and what her timeline is looking like Is a move to New York City in the future? Lauren and Chan have a fantastic announcement! Casita Jewelry is one of Lauren’s favorite jewelry brands, and they are so excited that Casita Jewelry is the August sponsor for Pop Apologists!  Head to casitajewelry.com to get any piece of jewelry 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren shares two twists of fate with corporations she has dealings with: Zara and JetBlue. Chanler shares depressing memories of being single on Valentine's Day, eating solo meals of Subway tuna at the BYU Wilkinson center year after desperate year. & then the gals turn their thoughts to Secrets of Playboy, A&E's docu-series about Hugh Hefner. Blessedly, Kate Casey of Reality Life with Kate Casey joins to give her thorough analysis of the series, tell us about her experience attending a strict boarding school as a kid, chat the Lisa Barlow hot mic incident, and finally solve a burning mystery for us: why people hate Erika Jayne but are ambivalent about Jen Shah. It's a great episode, y'all. Buckle IN. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists The beloved Walking Pad link: https://amzn.to/3GwqyB7 Check out Kate Casey's incredible podcast where she recaps the latest and greatest in all things documentaries and reality television, Reality Life with Kate Casey. Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren recently had her eyes opened to the possibility that Taylor Alison Swift, modern poet and prophetess, has been laying Easter eggs for years that she has in fact had romances with women. The gals are not ones to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon, but the evidence to support #gaylor is compelling. Lauren gives proof to the validity of this theory through social media posts, photos, and lyrical evidence that Taylor has been showing fans all along that she is more than just a LGBTQ ally. Chan then leads a detailed explanation of the Brooklyn and Nicola Peltz Beckham wedding lawsuit and countersuit between the Peltz family and their wedding planners of nine days, Plan Design Events. Brace yourself for some truly astounding details of what goes into planning the wedding of A-list and billionaire offspring, as well as how quickly things went south.  Casita Jewelry is giving all listeners 30% off during the month of August using code POPAPOLOGISTS. Visit casitajewelry.com to see the entire collection, including Lauren and Chan’s diamond tennis bracelet.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are so excited to have Dr. Jonathan Zelken on the podcast. Dr. Zelken is a board certified plastic surgeon based in Newport Beach, CA. After receiving his undergraduate degree in biology from Cornell University, he continued on to a degree in medicine at Tufts University, completed his plastic surgery training at Johns Hopkins Hospital, and then completed a microsurgery fellowship in Taiwan to further perfect his technique. Dr. Zelkin has learned from the best of the best to become one of the country’s leading plastic surgeons, specializing in facelifts, facial contouring, and a wide variety of plastic surgery techniques since opening his practice in 2016. Dr. Zelken's website and Instagram account are full of stunning before and after photos, featuring his flawless work and attention to the smallest of details on a wide variety of procedures. As the facelift expert of Newport Beach, Dr. Zelken is making his patients look like they are aging backwards, and we are so excited to hear his thoughts on all things related to plastic surgery. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Chan Tinder Swindles Ben into coming on the pod! Benler gets into their recent gorgeous trip to Casa Atkinson in Puerto Rico and get into all the Q&A about their luv story like...how they met, the winding road to their first date, who said I love you first (buckle in baby!), Chan's serial killer trait, the moment Ben knew he loved Chan, and more. Sorry for all the gushing folks, blame it on our vacation mood and the honeymoon phase. Xoxo Chan Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Follow Twin Flames on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Pop Apologists listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Pop Apologists want you to start living a happier life today. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

TRIGGER WARNING: This episode contains references to suicide, sexual abuse, and child sexual abuse. And of course it does, we're talking about Keith Raniere! That's right, this week we have a total, complete, and comprehensive guide to The Vow Season II on HBO Max. None other than the incredible Kate Casey joins to debrief this harrowing new season. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week the gals catch up with some of pop culture’s hot topics: Coachella: where people wait two hours for gross nachos and you can’t find a port-a-potty anywhere. Megan King helped Lauren’s Coachella FOMO evaporate with an all to real account of the hellscape that is a music festival.  Princess Kate’s “deep regret” and the real reason why Meghan isn’t attending the King’s coronation next month.  Kravis’s wedding special on Hulu, which had some highs (gorgeous photos and a fantastic yacht) and some lows (impersonal toasts “You guys are the best” and MGK’s performance). Why Leonardo DiCaprio needs to pick a lane: Is he saving the environment with Greta Thunburg or rocking a gold chain at Coachella? To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We are so thrilled to bring you our interview with Arielle Lorre, beloved influencer and host of The Blonde Files podcast. Arielle tells us all about how she got started as an influencer during the height of the BBG craze on Instagram. We get into crazy diets we've tried in the past and the changing cultural landscape on social media. Arielle gives her take on the Kardashians and their impact on body image. We get into plastic surgery, body positivity, and how our own personal journeys have evolved over time. Finally, we dig into all things Hollywood, like how to get a table at any restaurant you want, if Hollywood secret sex clubs exist, and what celebrities are really like in real life. Many thanks to Arielle for coming on the pod and don't forget to check out her podcast, The Blonde Files, and her Instagram account, @ariellelorre. Thank you to our fav wine company, Spade and Sparrows, for sponsoring this ep! Use the following link to get your next bottle! https://spadeandsparrows.com Many thanks to our other sponsor, Canva Pro, for supporting this episode today! Go to canva.me/pop for a 45 day free extended trial of Canva Pro! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are diving into the lives and romance of country music royalty, Tim McGraw and Faith Hill. Hear how Tim went from pursuing a law degree and Faith went from working at McDonalds to become two of the biggest country music artists of the 90’s and 2000’s. The gals discuss Tim and Faith’s whirlwind love story of  the 90’s and why they should serve as marriage inspo for all couples. Finally, listen in as Chan tells the story of pulling out all the stops to try and meet Tim McGraw during her college days.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are home at last. Lauren extolls the virtues of Spirit airlines, despite the aggressive dad energy of her pilot. Chan’s journeys through Altercation City, a series of dark events on her journey back to NYC. The gals get into celeb cheating rumors that shake Lauren and Chan to their core. They discuss Real Housewives drama and the toll that money and fame can take on family relationships. Finally, they dish on Gwyneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk’s Goop podcast episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join us today as we do a deep dive into the horrific case of Lori Vallow, who is currently on trial in Idaho for the murder of her two children, JJ and Tylee and conspiracy to commit murder of her husband Chad Daybell’s first wife, Tammy Daybell.  We discuss how this seemingly typical mother of three became entangled in religious extremism and end of days fringe groups, which led to delusions of being an exalted being who is tasked with removing the dark spirits that have taken over bodies of loved ones, and leading the 144,000 to the second coming. TW: This episode discussed the gruesome details of murder, specifically the murder of children. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are diving into all the drama surrounding Blake Lively, Justin Baldoni, and the movie It Ends With Us. The gals give their take on Meghan Markle’s recent visit to Colombia, where she surprised everyone with her Spanish speaking skills. They also discussed what could have been if the British royal family and media had embraced Meghan’s strengths, rather than take issue with her from the start. Lauren and Chan discuss the terrifying story of Mike Lynch’s superyacht capsizing off the coast of Sicily. Finally, the gals discuss the five members of the ketamine ring who are being charged in connection to Matthew Perry’s death.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pop Apologists has received 3 million downloads, so it was time for Lauren and Chan to celebrate with a trip to Guana Island! After hearing about the relaxed and luxurious all-inclusive experience, it is easy to see why Lauren (and now Chan!) love this island so much. In a true stroke of luck, one of their follow vacationers had some Nashville celebrity tea, and the gals heard all about it. Prepare yourself for funny stories about Taylor Swift and her mom Andrea, as well as wholesome stories about Keith Urban and Nicole Kidman that will only increase your love for the couple. Chan shares her annoyance with Lauren’s Serena Joy energy toward her vacation outfit planning, e.g. naked dresses, and Lauren gives her reasoning for encouraging a more country club casual look. In the end, the gals took a note from Taylor Swift and packed fits to make the whole place ✨shimmer✨, at least for a few minutes, before changing back into their more comfortable linen and gingham attire.  The gals then discuss the text messages between Jonah Hill and his ex-girlfriend Sarah Brady. The misogynistic ways that Jonah requests Sarah to behave in the name of “boundaries” is giving them serious incel vibes and serves as a major word of caution for anyone who has a partner that tries to dim their light because it makes them insecure. Lauren and Chan bring other perspectives into the discussion, such as House in Habit’s defense of Jonah Hill, where she uses Simone Biles level mental gymnastics to spin Jonah’s behavior into “maintaining healthy boundaries” and somehow paints Sarah Brady as the problem. For anyone wondering where Lauren and Chan have gotten some of their best looks, you’re in luck! The gals have their Amazon storefront ready, so visit this Amazon link for direct access to some of their must-haves: https://amzn.to/46EMCbc Pop Apologists is doing another $500 shopping spree giveaway! Now through August 15th you can enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about Dorit & PK’s separation announcement, which was rumored to have been coming for months. The gals discuss Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s recent trip to Nigeria, where Meghan referred to Nigeria “my country.” They dive into Justin and Hailey Bieber’s pregnancy announcement + vow renewal as well as Selena Gomez’s well-timed decision to turn off Instagram comments the week before the pregnancy announcement. Finally, Lauren and Chan chat about The Eras Tour’s most recent shows, which now feature music from TTPD, and Travis supporting Taylor at her final Paris show.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gals are so excited to have Victoria from J. Brooks Jewelers joining the podcast today to talk about all things fine jewelry. Listen and learn, because Victoria knows exactly what to look for in a fine jewelry purchase and has her finger on the pulse of all things trending in jewelry right now. Today we cover: The real difference between a high quality jeweler compared to online low priced retailers The reasons why a jewelry piece online might be priced much lower than similar items… it’s not always because you’re getting a great deal Victoria walks Lauren and Chan through exactly what people should be looking for in a diamond and what will start altering the visual quality of their piece Why J. Brooks Jewelers are so particular about the cut of a diamond Engagement ring trends: Lab grown vs. natural diamonds Instagram giving everyone diamond dysmorphia  The difference between natural diamonds, lab grown diamonds, and moissanite The cash vs. trade resale value on diamonds The best non-engagement ring investment piece someone can buy The best watch brands that hold their value All about the J. Brooks Bridal Collection The difference between gold, gold plated, and gold vermeil The investment value of quality jewelry pieces over quantity The history of the Chan chain necklace The history behind J. Brooks jewelers 2023 fine jewelry trends J. Brooks and Pop Apologists have partnered up for a fantastic giveaway! One winner will receive $1,000 to spend at J. Brooks! Listen to the episode and head to our Instagram account for all the details. This episode is brought to you by J Brooks Jewelers and Pop Apologists. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The first part of our deep dive into all of Gwyneth Paltrow's lovers through time. This week, we unpack everything through the Pre-Martin era, including one Brad Pitt and Ben Affleck. But before we get there, we chat miracles at the dentist office, a small bad trip on a boat, and songs that stir Chan. Enjoy! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we take on the seminal task of dissecting the life and lovers of Natalie Portman. We take our listeners on a journey, from the moment Natalie was discovered in a pizza parlor as a child through her rise to fame as the esteemed Hollywood actress and Oscar winner we know her as today. More interestingly, however, we pull out a magnifying glass on the slew of relationships and pen pals that have left their mark on Natalie's beguiling heart. This includes (but is not limited to) her torrid romance with Gael Garcia Bernal that ended in her flying to Argentina to confront him and his mistress when she got word that he was cheating with a co-star. We dig into the cringe-y emails between Natalie and Jonathan Safran Foer, who was so taken with their Gmail thread that he LEFT HIS WIFE FOR NATALIE, mistakingly assuming that he was participating in a requited love. Friends, Natalie's life is one of earnest intelligence and sexual fervor, and we lead you through it with no detail spared. So this Wednesday, we invite you to pour a cocktail, get cozy, and buckle in for THE LIFE AND LOVERS OF NATALIE PORTMAN. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are joined by special guest Indy Blue to chat about all things related to “The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.” The gals dive into the complicated dynamics of not just the women on the show, but how the show relates specifically to Utah Mormon culture and what it looks like to be Mormon in today’s world. They look at the relationships between the women and their husbands, the perception of the level of sinning, the issues the women on the show face as a result of being raised in a religious patriarchal society, and the real impact of MomTok.  ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A full deep dive on the VPR scandal that has shaken the nation to its core followed up by a break down of The People & Selena Gomez vs. Hailey Bieber. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan have their beloved brother-in-law Wyatt Grow join the podcast to answer listener questions and share some wisdom. Wyatt and the gals answer the following: How to get my boyfriend to propose? How does he feel about Courtney’s spending? What he wishes he knew before having children? How did you know you were ready to have kids? Which Bledsoe sister would he want to be stranded with on a desert island? What would he do if he was president for the day? How would he handle dividing up the fictional Bledsoe estate? Which Bledsoe sister would he ask to help bury a body? How to show up in a marriage when you’re feeling tired and stressed? What should you be looking for in a partner? How to handle mood swings with a male partner? What is his favorite thing about being married into the Bledsoe family? ​​Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kim passes the baby bar! Lauren’s baggage saga concludes with a happy ending for everyone except the JetBlue reimbursement office. We chat the New Yorker profile on Jeremy Strong and Lauren’s new book, Lifespan by David Sinclair. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to The Trial of David Foster, where Lauren and Chan examine this Canadian songwriter & producer’s marriages and misdeeds. Listen as the gals dive into David’s five marriages to discuss his relationship patterns and the toll it has taken on those in his orbit. Join Lauren and Chan as the judge, jury, and executioner regarding this man’s bad behavior, complete with the gals’ take on why David hated being on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills + why they think he and Yolanda Hadid (wife #4) split. Finally, listen in as  Lauren and Chan discuss the interview where Katherine McPhee (wife #5) tells the tale of her and David’s love. Buckle in, because this is a trial you won’t want to miss. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While Lauren is honeymooning in paradise, Chanler is joined by the legendary Joe Peacock and together they revisit celebrity relationships that we all forgot existed. Reese Witherspoon and Jake Gyllenhaal (as well as uncover Jake’s origin story as a villain) Sandra Bullock and Ryan Gosling Jake Gyllenhaal and Kirsten Dunst Ryan Gosling and Rachel McAdams Ryan Reynold and Alanis Morissette Chan and Joe also discuss evidence of Taylor Swift being surrounded by Yes Men ™️ and why she needs an editor back in her life. If you want to get straight to the celebrity couples skip the first 10 or so minutes!  To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chanler sit down with heavy hearts to describe to week that has transpired. Originally chasing wild tales with everyone else online, they find themselves with a newfound sense of nausea as they ponder whether it’s truly possible that something is horribly wrong with Kate Middleton, and this isn’t just the internet being the internet and going down wild rabbit holes. Listen along as the girls share everything they have heard about what is going on with Kate, from trusted sources to random DM’s from total strangers. Lauren and Chan present a cohesive narrative of what they are told is going on behind the scenes, their hope for was is happening (spoiler alert: a woman on the mend from an early 40’s facelift). Buckle tf in, though, bc unfortunately all evidence seems to point to something much more sinister. 😭 A note from Lauren and Chan: “WE PRAY NONE OF THIS IS TRUE!” To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we are bringing you a massive skin deep dive on everything you need to know to get that infant glow. If you're anything like us, all the product recommendations on social media can leave you with decision fatigue and feeling a bit overwhelmed. We sat down with Sara Moran and Claire O'Bryan from The Skin Clique to get expert recommendations and a comprehensive skin care plan for everyone who is as lost as we are. We also chat the breakdown of Kim K and Pete Davidson and the new trailer of Sister Wives at the top of the show! Buckle in! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about the latest developments in the never-ending Brad Pitt vs. Angelina Jolie lawsuit. The gals dive into the subtle statement from Brad and Angelina’s children and what it says about what likely happened behind closed doors at the Jolie-Pitt home. They discuss the latest airplane horror story involving a flight traveling from Doha to Dublin, which comes just a week after the disastrous Singapore Airlines flight that killed 1 and injured 30 others. Finally, Lauren and Chan take a look at Bethenny Frankel’s latest TikTok antics, where she takes a note from Pretty Woman and then accuses a luxury brand of being *gasp* elitist.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It’s a deep dive on two the planet’s most attractive humans, Tom Brady and Gisele Bundchen. From the beginning— a blind-ish first date to the event that turned their worlds upside town just two months into their relationship. To the middle— a surprisingly low-key wedding approach and the clear conclusion that Gisele is the heart of the family. And the end- “It’s not working if it only works for you, Tom” and a short-lived retirement. Hear about the impact of Gisele the Good Witch and Deb’s thoughts on why Tom couldn’t stay retired. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are deep diving into the many paramours of eternally enigmatic Angelina Jolie. Listen along as we break down her early relationships, including living with her boyfriend at the tender age of 14. We cover Angie's torrid affair/marriage with Billy Bob Thornton and finally, her wedded union and then divorce from the mayor of Dilf-city himself, Mr. Brad Pitt. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The gals give their thoughts on Raquel Leviss going back to her birth name of Rachel, and why it might do her some to good to lay low for another 3-6 months before returning to the scene as wholesome Rachel. Lauren tells Chan about a recent drunken night where she and Kagen watched the 2020 Taylor Swift documentary on Netflix. In a moment of true marital bliss, Kagen saw the light and suggested that he and Lauren go to one of Taylor’s concerts. It was quite possibly the easiest “yes!” of Lauren’s life, second only to saying yes to Kagen’s marriage proposal. Lauren and Chan dig into the newest season of The Kardashians, specifically Kim and Kourtney’s feud that reached a fever pitch after Kourtney’s wedding. The gals discuss why Kim feels an extra level of competition with Kourtney and why she can’t take joy in Kourtney’s happiness. Lauren and Chan aren’t fighting over Italian weddings and Dolce and Gabbana campaigns, but they can relate to the sister strife that comes when when they both want to have their own identities and individual brands. Regardless, Lauren and Chan agree that family is their top priority, which doesn’t always seem to be the case for the Kardashians when they get a fantastic business opportunity. Finally, Lauren and Chan discuss the mysterious case of Carlee Russell, the woman who disappeared without a trace after allegedly seeing a toddler wandering on the side of the highway, only to return home 48 hours later. Mainstream media is giving one set of facts, but the detectives at TikTok are painting an entirely different picture. The $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15th! Enter by posting an Instagram story that tags @popapologists and contains a link to your favorite episode of the podcast.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Equal parts praise and reprisal, I sit down with Chanler and discuss at length both her and Joe's commentary as well as my own extensive thoughts on the album of the year: Midnights by Taylor Swift. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A nostalgia ep! In honor of Mother's Day, we are chatting all the lessons Deb taught us as kids growing up. But before we dig into Lessons from the Book of Deb, we cover some hot topics in pop culture including swirling rumors that Joe cheated on Taylor, Scandoval updates, and Harry & Meghan having dinner with Gwyneth Paltrow & Brad Falchuck. MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are joined by travel advisor Alexandra Stockton to talk about all things travel. Alexandra specializes in luxury travel across the globe and answers listener questions such as: -why using a travel advisor is the way to go -when is the best time to book a hotel -which vacation destinations are overhyped and overcrowded -where to travel if you’re looking for a sugar daddy -where are some of the best honeymoon locations -which locations at the best for vacations in the US -what a travel advisor does for a group trip -why she stays away from AirBNB and VRBO properties Lauren and Chan also share their go-to airport style, their packing philosophy, and their biggest travel hack.  You can find Alexandra Stockton at alexandrastockton.com or on Instagram at @alexandrahstockton or @alexandrastocktontravel Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com  to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, considersubscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Uncovering everything that has come to light in the past 48 hours about the cheating scandal that has rocked the nation. We discuss key insights from Stassi Shroeder's podcast as well as Kristen Doute's most recent episode. Finally, we chat Lisa's appearance on WWHL and other rumors swirling around the VPR dark web. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* Listen in for the drama that almost ended Lauren's wedding in an international lawsuit before it even began! The gals get into all the anxiety leading up to the big day, which of Lauren's biggest fears came true, and the dream wedding purchase she sold her tennis necklace for. Click here to listen! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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This week we get into Chanler’s embarrassing disclosure during a presentation at work, why she thinks female empowerment and Melinda Gate’s “Moment of Lift” is boring af, and all our thoughts on the illuminating interview with Melinda by Gayle King. Lauren questions the integrity of Gayle’s journalistic career and then back tracks like a coward upon Chanler’s admonishment. We discuss the article “The Movie Star & Me” which alleges sexual harassment by Jake Gyllenhaal in the workplace, and share our own personal experiences with sexual harassment while just trying to work soft and get by. Finally, we chat the about having a savings in your twenties, NYC's current vibe, and reveal Feb's Giveaway winner. Buckle in! Thanks to this weeks sponsors! Follow Twin Flames on Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, or you can listen early and ad-free by subscribing to Wondery Plus in Apple Podcasts or the Wondery App. Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP.For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Pop Apologists want you to start living a happier life today. As a listener, you’ll get 10% off your first month by visiting our sponsor at BetterHelp.com/popapologists. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Lauren and Chanler sit down to discuss the tragic announcement that Kate made via video statement on Friday to the world. They give their full thoughts on the video statement, including how they now feel about their "Where TF is Kate" series given the news. The gals discuss the timing of the announcement, whether the royal family can be trusted, and why this conversation matters more than every at a time when faith in institutions is at an all-time low. They also get into the mysterious death of the Boeing whistleblower, a man who died just as he was supplying information in court about alleged negligence in one of the largest aviation companies in the world. Finally, Lauren and Chan debrief on Ariana finally moving out of the house she and Tom Sandoval shared. Buckle in! To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We chat Will Smith slapping Chris Rock at the Oscars and debate whether this was a display of toxic masculinity or a culture bereft of normalized, ceremonial, male-on-male combat. We further explore the role Scientology may have played in the slap heard round the world. Then, we are joined by wedding planning expert and host of the The Big Wedding Planning Podcast, Michelle Martinez, to answer all your (and Lauren's) questions about weddings. Should you leave your florals to a trusted expert or swing by Ralph's the Friday before the ceremony to DIY it on the cheap? All your questions and more are answered on this intensive wedding deep dive. Buckle in! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are joined by Ryan from the So Bad It’s Good with Ryan Bailey podcast to talk all about part 3 of the Vanderpump Rules Reunion. They chat all about what they loved about this season of VPR, which cast members have shown the most (and least) amount of growth, and what they would love to see in future seasons of VPR. Plus, Ryan and Lauren talk all about Ryan’s recent Eras Tour experience in Stockholm and how they think Taylor Swift’s music and career will evolve over the next decade.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Answering all your plant medicine questions and much more. You guys are going to LOVE this episode. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we chat Kim Kardashian's new skincare line, SKKN, the new documentary on Hulu about Teal Swan, "The Deep End," and end with a dissertation on why our listeners should become the masters of their own universe. ✨ To support the show and access 100+ bonus episodes, sign up for the Patreon by click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

MERCH IS HERE! Click here to check out our limited drop of Work Soft hoodies and hats. Get yours before they're gone! As if you needed another reason to rejoice, the pop culture drought has ended! That’s right, we have some hot topics to discuss today: Alex Cooper having Gwyneth on Call Her Daddy The Hollywood insider gossip we are dying to know King Charles’s coronation and Meghan’s casual, unplanned hike  Taylor Swift’s new romance with Matty Healy Scandoval updates Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Breaking down every song on Midnights, Taylor Swift's album of absolute bops & bangers, baby!!!!!!!!!! & of course Chan brought your favorite Joe Peacock to take on the task. Buckle in, Swifties! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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*PATREON* This week we are bringing you a smattering of topics and quite the candor! We chat our friendship with Heather Gay and our feelings about her loyalty to Jen shah, our Current thoughts on Bravo/housewives including RHOSLC. We give a breakdown of the Boston man who murdered and dismembered his wife and a recap of the Michael Haight's murder of his wife, 5 kids, & mother in law. Finally, we have a candid discussion on all things Ozempic/adderall/phentermine/ silver bullet weight loss pills and a long overdue rehashing of Melissa Wood & her long lean crimes. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who the f are we? How did the podcast begin? What kind of exercise do we (and Courtney) do? What self tanner do we use? What is a non-chuegy bridesmaid gift? How did our partners respond when we sent them Richard Marx's 1989 romantic ballad "I'll Be Waiting?" with zero context? Do we think Tom Cruise is gay? What is on our summer bucket list? Listen along as we bring it back to the basics, catch up, and mention it all. <3 Support the show and access 100+ bonus episodes, sign up for the Patreon by click here! Get a Bolalá beach puff! My new favorite thing! https://www.bo-lala.com/collections/beach-puff My fav self tanner! https://amzn.to/3N67lKF Walking Pad link! https://amzn.to/3azRPsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler and I chat about the abysmal snack options on American Airlines and the casual cruelty of asking passengers if they even want the complimentary snacks on board. We then get into the festival from hell, aka Astroworld, and discuss Travis Scott's history of encouraging chaos and violence at his shows. Finally, we consider the Kardashian culpability in all of this. Is America's royal family simply tone deaf and thoughtless, or maniacal witches fit for the stake? Buckle in, bb's. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Nutrafol — Go to Nutrafol.com and enter promo code APOLOGISTS to save $15 off your first month’s subscription plus free shipping. US customers only, for a limited time. BetterHelp — Go to Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Quip — Go to getquip.com/pop to save $10 on a Quip Smart Electric Toothbrush Zocdoc — Go to Zocdoc.com/pop and download the Zocdoc app to sign-up for free and book a top-rated doctor Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

*PATREON* Listen in for all the tea on Prince Andrew's marriage to and divorce from Sarah Ferguson and finally, at long and dear last, Tina's take on Prince Andrew's cavorting with Jeffrey Epstein. CLICK HERE TO LISTEN! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In this episode we get into Chanler's encounters with two very different New York strangers, a dramatic revisit of Pamela Anderson's final IG post and Lauren's corresponding disappointment with her less-than-soulful-adult life, the delicious 12-min GP's Architectural Digest video featuring her Montecito home. We also fully dive into Soy Georgina and Lauren's obsession. Plus, some Q+A on the birth order in our family, sister fights (yikes!), dispelling the WalkingPad negative reviews, does John Bledsoe think divorce is inevitable (also dark!), Chan's thoughts on the beautiful yet soul sucking Euphoria, Greece v. Spain as vacation destinations, Chan's NYC foodie spots, and more! To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, FitOn, Dooney&Bourkey, and Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Check out Dooney & Bourke’s newest, most exciting collection at Dooney.com/POP. For 20% off your first order, visit Dooney.com/POP and use the code POP before April 30, 2022. Join over 10 million people getting their FitOn. Work out for free anytime, anywhere. Text POP to 64-000 to join FitOn for free! Text POP to 64-000! That’s POP 64-000. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are diving back into another chapter “The Palace Papers” where Tina Brown spills the royal tea on William and Kate’s romance. The gals discuss the shocking breakup when the relationship got too serious for William, the master plan that had William running back to Kate, the surprising #1 supporter of Kate, and the eventual Kenyan proposal. Hear all about Kate’s bachelorette party, where she sings about how she had to “fight for this love” and our thoughts on Kate’s wedding looks. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we chat Lauren's 32nd birthday trip to Anguilla, Chan moving in with Ben, Jen Shah pleading guilty to wire fraud, and then begin our deep dive into the love story of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes. Fast forward about 15 minutes if you want to skip the personal life gobbley gook and get right to the celeb gossip. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We discuss Sophia Richie’s wedding, the leaked letter from Meghan Markle and King Charles, Taylor Swift papped 3x in NYC, Blake Lively’s lack of a stylist and our, The Great Unfollowing (TM Chanler Bledsoe), VPR, & Savannah Chrisley’s troublesome Southwest flight. To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we are bringing you the first part of our deep dive into the extraordinarily entertaining article on Meghan Markle from The Cut! To hear the rest of this four part series on Patreon, click here! Part 3 was released today on Patreon and part 4 is coming Friday, September 16th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan give some life updates, including Lauren’s upcoming travel conundrum and Chan’s dream birthday gift. The gals dive into Gywneth Paltrow and Brad Falchuk potentially having some trouble in their Montecito paradise and the tabloid article that had a surprising amount of insight. They take a look at another pair who may be consciously uncoupling, Sara Foster and longtime partner Tommy Haas, and why marriage was never in the cards for them. Lauren and Chan talk about the video where Travis Kelce mentions “The Taylor Swift Effect” and why Travis really is the perfect partner for Taylor. Finally, the gals chat about Harry and Meghan’s recent launch of The Parents’ Network and why it is important to take a balanced approach with Meghan Markle.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our new episode this week will come out on Thursday due to severe scheduling conflicts and transatlantic crossings, so enjoy part 2 of Chan's T-Swift deep dive with Joe Peacock, Lauren's new sworn enemy. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chanler sends the innocent company, MakeSpace, into a state of emergency due to an embarrassing lack of spatial awareness. Lauren complains about overly chatty customer service representatives and the new ubiquity of tipping expectations. We recap the last week with our family in Utah with our grandma and our thoughts on Lilibet Diana, newly born sorta royal. Lauren discusses being shamed by Deb for getting multiple ear piercings and juxtaposes this with Gywneth Paltrow and Apple Martin’s birthday piercing tradition. Finally, we don our teal colored veils and go full Serena Joy Waterford on Em rata and Scott Disick for unseemly IG behavior. Buckle in, bb's! Many thanks to our wonderful sponsors! With HelloFresh, you get fresh, pre-measured ingredients and mouthwatering seasonal recipes delivered right to your door. Go to HelloFresh.com/12pop and use code "12pop" for 12 free meals, including free shipping! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mary Fitzgerald joins to discuss all things real estate and the hit show she stars on, Selling Sunset on Netflix. Listen along as Mary divulges how the show began, how filming works, how she got her start in real estate and the difference between the shows portrayal of working in real estate and the reality of being an agent. Mary dishes on what it takes to really be successful in real estate and the gritty behind the scenes of selling a home. She tells us about dating Jason and their journey from a couple to business partners and best friends. Mary discusses the rumors behind her and Romain getting married before their wedding day on the show and the incorrect way the show portrayed their relationship in season 1. She also discusses her thoughts on the 75M listing, who she would choose from the cast to be her real estate agent if she was selling her house, and her go-to snacks and meals. We are so grateful for Mary taking the time to sit down with us! Thanks to Canva Pro for sponsoring this ep! Go to Canva.me/pop to get your free 45-day extended trial. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week our very own sis, Ash Johnsdottir, the enigmatic and eldest Bledsoe comes out of the shadows and joins the pod to regale our listeners with family tales growing up as a Bledsoe sis. Ash tells the story of choosing to change her last name to “Johnsdottir” and our parent's reaction to her foregoing our family name. We share family memories of growing up with Ash as a sister/family terrorist, a unique experience to say the least. :) Ash gives her thoughts on growing up with Lauren and Chanler, and what they were really like as kids. Finally, Ash shares her skin care philosophy including what she believes is the holy grail of all skin care products and her unique approach to purchasing sunscreen. For part two of our interview with Ash with even more skin care scoop, be sure to subscribe and listen to this week's Patreon episode on Friday. To learn more about Ash's face serum, visit https://www.johnsdottirapothecaries.com Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just when you thought we had nothing left to say, we’re back with another hour of total nonsense. Chanler reveals how her first week in NYC is doing and Ben’s dark comments about her choice of footwear. If you’re still awake after this portion, listen along as we discuss #freebritney post the conservatorship hearing heard around the world. We then reveal our PR strategies for Erika Jayne to somehow resurrect her public image from the depths of hell Tom’s criminal activities have plunged her into. The conversation goes completely off the rails and we take a nostalgic walk down memory lane as we reveal the most romantic movie trailer of all time. Trigger warning to all of you who so passionately loathed Songs That Stir Us. Finally, we reveal our favorite things of the week in a new segment, “Latest & Greatest.” Thank you to Canva Pro for sponsoring this ep! Go to Canva.me/pop45 to get your free 45-day extended trial. Thank you also to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After a long and luxuriating holiday weekend, we return to the airwaves to recount how we respectively celebrated the 4th. Chanler travels to the East Coast and meets her man’s family; Lauren does what she does best and #yachts all around PR. We then dive into the alarming details of The Bachelorette’s Clare Crawley decision to remove her breast implants, why Pete Davidson is removing all of his tattoos, the lame reasons why we are not cut our for tattoo life, and finally what it means to be “demisexual” and why it suits our tender hearts. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The smartest Bledsoe sis, Ash, is BACK to get into all things midwifery, pregnancy, giving birth, and postpartum care. Ash is an absolute wealth of knowledge and as a certified professional midwife, she isn't giving fraudulently uncredentialed, bad advice like Chanler and I do regularly. Ash tells us all about why a home birth is actually safer for women in many cases than a hospital birth and explains the truly shocking statistic that over thirty percent of babies are delivered by C-section in US hospitals. She gets into pregnancy nutrition advice and explains why it is so critical to stay active and eat mindfully during pregnancy. Finally, she tells us about her scariest moment as a midwife and gives some truly phenomenal advice about how to emotionally grapple with not having a good birth experience. Ash is incredible and we are so happy to have her back on the pod. Can't get enough of Pop Apologists?! Join us on Patreon where we release a brand new, additional episode every Friday! Visit patreon.com/popapologists to support the pod and access our weekly bonus episode! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! To learn more about Ash's face serum, visit johnsdottirapothecaries.com Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Finally, thank you to Athena Club for making the most incredible shave kits and sponsoring this episode! Go to athenaclub.com and use code POP for 20% off! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

David Yontef, BFF of our most beloved housewives and host of the super successful podcast Behind the Velvet Rope, joins to give us all the insider Bravo tea. We explore some of the great questions of our time, like did Heather Dubrow get Braunwyn fired from RHOC? Where does the Dubrow fortune come from? How does one become friends with reality stars and perhaps even A-listers? Did Braunwyn fake her alcoholism for the show? Was Kelly Dodd fired bc of her politics or did Heather Dubrow get her ousted from our screens? We may be left with more questions than answers, but the investigative journey is in itself one toward enlightenment. Finally, David regales us with his conspiracy theory on Erika Jayne's divorce and the dark secret pact he imagines Tom made with Erika pre-divorce. David is the real deal of podcasters; he has interviewed all the housewives and is besties with many of them, and holds back no secrets. Check out his pod, Behind the Velvet Rope, to get all the hottest celeb and Bravo interviews, out five days a week! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week we get into a spirited debate over a nagging question Lauren can't get off her mind: how does wealth flow from ultra rich celebs to their normal, civilian family members? Does Taylor Swift party on yachts with the Hadid sisters while her brother grinds away from 9-5 at Allstate Insurance? How is the playing field artificially leveled to avoid vast chasms of resentment on both sides?! We get into a heated conversation about this and then turn to an even hotter topic: J-Lo's and Ben Affleck's nostalgia tour of Europe with PDA-packed throwback pics. Finally, Chanler gives a stunning recap of @houseinhabit on IG's deep dive on JFK Jr., and Lauren issues her thoughts on the news that Prince Harry is writing a memoir. Buckle in and hold onto your hats! Can't get enough of Pop Apologists?! Join us on Patreon where we release a brand new, additional episode every Friday! Visit patreon.com/popapologists to support the pod and access our weekly bonus episode! Many thanks to this week's sponsors! Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Need to make a gorgeous, beautifully designed presentation? Check out Canva Pro! Visit canva.me/pop45 for a FREE 45-day extended trial. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Just a good ole-fashioned chat with Chan about a step-heavy funeral, Adam Levine's infidelity, the unceasing drone of Covid protocols on Coyote Pass as Christine and Kody come to terms with their dissolution, and an update on Chan's sinful situation. Buckle in!! To support the show on Patreon and access our 100+ bonus episodes, including our Royal's Deep Dive, click here! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This weekly dispatch finds Chanler in the idyllic Nantucket Island, where she is happily ensconced in a world of picturesque scenery and wealthy, well groomed families. We chat about her trip and the serenity that comes from being surrounded by the well heeled, which prompts Lauren to share her anachronistic fantasy about the ideal motherhood lifestyle. We then turn our attention to all things Olympics and chat about the Netflix doc Athlete A, which is a riveting documentary about USA Gymnastic's history of exploiting and abusing its athletes. We chat about Simone Biles and applaud her for prioritizing her own safety and sanity over the Olympics Industrial Complex. 👏🏻 For the second half of the ep, we interview Sara Vafi of Casita De Luz, a direct to consumer fine jewelry brand based out of Los Angeles. Sara is an absolute wealth of knowledge and breaks down the jewelry biz for us. She shares how to get stunning pieces at a fraction of what brands are selling them for, the benefits of starting a brand with Etsy, the newest hottest trends in jewelry, and her philosophy on building your collection. We were so thrilled to have Sara on the podcast! To check out Casita De Luz, click here and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for a little discount at checkout! ✨ For an extra weekly episode of Pop Apologists every Friday, check out our Patreon where you can subscribe and keep the podcast alive. Visit http://patreon.com/popapologists for an additional hour of nonsense each week. Thank you to BetterHelp for sponsoring this ep! Visit Betterhelp.com/popapologists for 10% off your first month As you all know, we love Spade and Sparrows wine. It is absolutely delicious and the bottles are gorge. Visit www.spadeandsparrows.com to find your closest bottle. Enter code POP15 at checkout to get 15% off your first purchase. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week Chan and I catch up on our Valentine's plans and my upcoming travels. We discuss dating advice from our parents growing up and one very important marriage tip from our dad, the divorce attorney. We get into current shows we are loving. the biggest culture shock since moving to Puerto Rico, thoughts on chic dining habits, and more trivial nonsense we can't believe anyone cares to hear us discuss. We love y'all so much. ❤️ Buckle innnn. To support the show and access our bonus episodes, visit https://www.patreon.com/popapologists The beloved Walking Pad link: https://amzn.to/336ze3A Many thanks to our sponsor of this week's episode, Hello Fresh! Go to HelloFresh.com/pop16 and use code pop16 for up to 16 free meals AND 3 free gifts! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Click here to access the full episode! We cover day 11 of the trial including:  - Johnny's "salty CPA" who dishes on Amber's pricey wine habit and rants over her divorce demands - The director of the ACLU's testimony revealing just exactly how much "Amber" has donated - Revelations from two of Depp's security detail who witnessed Amber and Johnny in explosive fights  - Testimony from the security guard who picked Amber up the morning she dumped a grump Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan are joined by Dana Omari-Harrell from @igfamousbydana to dive into the beauty practices, products, and trends that have listeners wondering whether they are legit or just scams. They chat about the creators on Instagram who are claiming to transform your face through facia massage and facial HIIT training. The gals discuss the beauty device that both Chanler and Dana love and why it actually works. Dana shares her thoughts on microneedling at home vs. a med spa. Finally, the gals dive into which procedure Dana hates and her opinion on popular trends such as Morpheus8, buccal fat removal, and Sculptra.  Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off.  To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Lauren & Chan are back for an emergency episode diving deep into the 10 year situationship between Taylor Swift and Matty Healy. But first, the gals discuss their evolving appreciation for THE TORTURED POET'S DEPARTMENT. Lauren specifically returns to the chat with an even mightier change of heart and newfound appreciation for both the title track, Down Bad, and My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys. Then, the sisters tackle the ten year situationship between the volatile The 1975 frontman and the American icon, Taylor Swift. They discuss everything from the rumored beginnings of the relationship in 2014 up until the the smallest man who ever lived ghosted their treasured Taylor. Listen along for the full scoop on Taylor and Matty on this EMERGENCY DEEP DIVE ❤️‍🔥 Taylor Swift & Matty Healy 💔 EVERYTHING WE KNOW. BUCKLE IN. Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Go to EarlyBirdCBD.com to get our favorite CBD/THC gummies and use code POPAPOLOGISTS20 for 20% off. To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Friday! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lauren and Chan chat about another misstep by the Montecito Markles, as reports have come out detailing one of the more recent examples of the couple’s entitled behavior, this time being their request to join President Joe Biden and Dr. Jill on AIR FORCE ONE following the Queen’s funeral. Their requests were declined, as one cannot just hitch a ride with the President, Sussexes or not. This blunder serves as a reminder that maybe the Bidens are not as Team Sussex as the Markles might hope, despite Meghan thinking that Dr. Jill had sent her cloaked messages of support in the form of Oscar De La Renta fashion choices. The gals then dive into the persistent rumors that there is trouble in paradise for Harry and Meghan on both the financial and relationship fronts. As most of their business deals have not panned out, and they have not become Oprah-level dignitaries, they seem to be at a crossroads. Lauren and Chan eagerly await the return of Meghan’s Instagram and are ready to click on her Reward Style links, should that blessed day ever come. They leave the road from Montecito and take a much darker road to Gilgo Beach, where Chan leads a deep dive on the Gilgo Beach Murders and the recent arrest of Rex Heuermann, a married father of two and *gasp* architect. From being an unsolved case that plagued Long Island, learn how investigators cracked the cold case using cell phone data, new DNA testing, and a major tip from the “handler” of one of the murder victims. This case is absolutely horrifying, and serves as a chilling reminder that there are people out there who have secret double lives.  The Pop Apologists $500 shopping spree giveaway is open until August 15! To enter, post a link to your favorite Pop Apologists episode, why you love the podcast on your Instagram stories, and tag @popapologists.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices