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20 Dec 2021 | 135. No Substitute For Nature with Zac Goldsmith | 01:03:33 | |
There’s no pathway to capping our global temperature rise to 1.5 degrees Celsius without protecting and restoring nature. That’s the lay of the land according to The Rt Hon Lord Goldsmith, Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment - our final guest for 2021. At the close of a year that’s seen enormous momentum to incorporate forests and land use well and truly into the climate agenda, Lord Goldsmith shares insights into the context and his vision for the next twelve months. So, where do we stand now? Among the remarkable outcomes of COP26 was a commitment to halting and reversing forest loss and land degradation by 2030. Signed by 141 countries, the Glasgow Leaders’ Declaration on Forest and Land Use covers an incredible 90 percent of global forest. We also saw meaningful progress at this year’s Convention on Biological Diversity in Kunming. And the direction of travel? Our ultimate challenge and goal, Lord Goldsmith says, is to reconcile our economy with our natural world – and now has to be the turning point. So! Join us for a reflection on some major moments on the podcast this past year and a look into this turning point moment. Can we reduce emissions by 7% each consecutive year from here on out? And - we have a holiday-themed song this year as our last song of the season! A special acoustic performance of “It’s Christmas” by Callum Beattie. Stick around for it! Thank you for a great season!
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Mentioned links from the episode:
Read: Glasgow Leaders’ Declaration On Forests and Land Use Donate: Steps To Hope
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Thank you to our guest this week:
Zac Goldsmith (Rt Hon Lord) Minister for the Pacific and the International Environment
UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs
Foreign, Commonwealth & Development Office
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Callum Beattie is our musical guest!
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DONATE: Steps To Hope
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06 Oct 2022 | 170. Australia is Back! | 01:15:36 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism. As always, we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson are joined by guest co-host and friend, Dean Bialek. Dean has worked on climate change for years in his native Australia, which is especially relevant to today’s episode. The team spends some time Down Under一well, proverbially speaking一conversing with Aussies-extraordinaire Zali Steggall, Australia’s most renown international alpine skier, Teal Movement founder, and current independent member of the Australian Parliament for Warringah; and Mike Cannon-Brookes, climate activist and Co-Founder and Co-CEO of software juggernaut Atlassian Corporation Plc. Our guests weigh in on Australia’s new government, its audacious climate bill, and how a nation chock-full of renewable resources (but historically low political will) could be about to pivot to climate superpower status. We also have an update on the Environmental Music Prize from Edwina Floch, Founder of The Environmental Music Prize as well as a music track from the Winner of the Prize, King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard. You won’t want to miss this inspiring podcast episode一It’s definitely ace!
NOTES AND RESOURCES
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Thank you to our guest co-host, Dean Bialek!
Dean Bialek Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram - Thank you to our guests this week!
Zali Steggall | Member Australian Parliament for Warringah Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube | Website
Mike Cannon-Brookes | Co-founder and Co-CEO of Atlassian
Atlassian Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | YouTube - Congratulations to our musical guest and winner of the 1st Environmental Music Prize, King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard!
King Gizzard and The Lizard Wizard Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | BandCamp | Website
Go watch their Prize-Winning Music Video “If Not Now, Then When” on YouTube **Note from Clay** - It’s f***ing awesome Listen more from the Environmental Music Prize and sign up for their newsletter to stay tuned for next year's prize!
Edwina Floch
Environmental Music Prize Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | YouTube
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21 Sep 2021 | 115. Turning Around in a Storm with David Shukman | 00:27:04 | |
Our struggle with the Climate Crisis begins with naming it, facing it, and engaging it. Last week, the latest NDC Synthesis Report published showed that global emissions are on track to rise by 16% by 2030. With science screaming at the top of its lungs to get us to cut emissions 50% by 2030 to avoid catastrophic warming and climate tipping points, this 16% number says unequivocally, “we are headed in the wrong direction” as BBC Science Editor David Shukman tells us on today’s episode. So that’s where we’re at. How do we face this moment with stubborn optimism? Tom dials up David to wrestle with the reality of how short our NDCs are of achieving the Paris Goals, and what mindset and ambition it will take to get our world’s biggest emitters to transparently confront this issue and reverse the course of rising emissions.
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Links mentioned in the episode:
Climate change: UN warning over nations' climate plans - David Shukman Young People's Voices on Climate Anxiety, Government Betrayal and Moral Injury: A Global Phenomenon
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Thanks to our guest this week:
David Shukman Science Editor | BBC News
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Paul Dickinson
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30 Aug 2019 | 19. Climate Justice is Social Justice with Isra Hirsi | 00:46:15 | |
This week, as Greta arrives in New York after her 2 week long sailing journey to the UN, Christiana, Paul, and Tom weigh in on how the world is feeling a collective shift in momentum from national movements to global movements. Later on in the episode Tom sits down with Isra Hirsi, Executive Director of US Youth Climate Strike and daughter of US Congresswoman, Ilhan Omar. We ask her what it's like to be 16 and running a successful activist organization, and we get her thoughts on intersectional representation within the global climate change movement. | |||
24 Apr 2020 | 49. The Third Mass Bleaching Event with Emma Johnston (COVID and Climate #5) | 00:55:17 | |
HAPPY 50TH EARTH DAY!!! This week we celebrate Earth Day with a return cameo from High Level Climate Action Champion, Nigel Topping. Nigel gives us an inside update on the unknowns of COP26, and gives us an exclusive on how coordination and ambition is going in the midst of the pandemic. And for our main interview - The Great Barrier Reef has sustained a third mass bleaching event in 5 years. Will it survive? Emma Johnston, Dean of Science and Professor of Marine Ecology and Ecotoxicology at The University of South Wales in Australia breaks it down for us. She does a deep dive on what bleaching is, why the bleaching is happening so frequently, and she answers the question, "Will the coral survive?" Tom's TED Talk: https://bit.ly/3aAkxDI W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Instructions: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm
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23 Nov 2023 | 221. TIME100 Climate: Stories of Leadership | 00:55:58 | |
This week on O+O… our hosts discuss the US-China ‘Sunnylands statement’; China’s positive 2024 emissions news, and ask how we hold this positivity, alongside the recently published UN report that warns of lack of global progress on climate change and the inexorable rise of greenhouse gas emissions, without our heads exploding! Our guests this week are Simon Mulcahy and Shyla Raghav from TIME, both responsible for founding TIME CO2, a division focused on providing businesses with the trusted content, solutions, applications and community that accelerate investment in climate solutions, and progress towards net zero. They recently released their TIME 100 CLIMATE inaugural list which includes our very own incredible Paul Dickinson. Music this week comes from completely DIY self taught Indie-alt-pop musicians and producers Bad Sounds, with their song ‘Beggin’. NOTES AND RESOURCES
GUESTS Shyla Raghav, Chief Climate Officer, TIME Simon Mulcahy, President Sustainability, TIME
TIME CO2
MUSICAL GUEST Bad Sounds Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Spotify | YouTube
EXTRA LINKS Submit your awkward family climate questions via video or voice note to contact@globaloptimism.com OR comment the question on our Instagram Post
Check out The Climate Question’s Episode on COP - ‘What has COP Achieved?’
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10 Apr 2020 | 47. Solidarity and Self-Interest with Professor Joseph Stiglitz (COVID and Climate #3) | 00:53:45 | |
Tom, Christiana, and Paul are back together (in their separate homes) and we continue our series, searching for how to emerge from the COVID-19 Pandemic better prepared to combat the climate crisis! This week we get a tour of solidarity economics and a treasure trove of economic wisdom from Nobel Memorial Prize Winner, Professor Joseph Stiglitz. The gang chats about what they've been up to in self-quarantine, they discuss the severity of the income inequality crisis, and Professor Stiglitz reveals to us that these stimulus packages being approved by national governments are proof that we have always been able to afford preventing climate change. W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: Link to our Livestream from Monday: Twitter: https://bit.ly/2yN1I2N Facebook: https://bit.ly/2XqcExO YouTube: https://bit.ly/39ZoeT9
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18 Sep 2020 | 70. BP's Road to Rebuilding Trust with CEO Bernard Looney | 01:08:36 | |
This week we sit down with the CEO of BP, Bernard Looney. Following BP's announcement to be net-zero by 2050 and cutting oil production by 40% by 2030, we talk about the beginning steps to rebuilding trust and what it looks like to transition an oil and gas company away from oil and gas. --- Our special musical guest this week is Gecko: Website | Twitter | Youtube | Instagram --- Keep up with Christiana here: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook --- Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn --- Join @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn --- Dont forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
26 Jul 2019 | 14. Outrage + Optimism LIVE Q+A! | 00:53:01 | |
Last week we asked all of you to submit your burning questions on climate change, and this week we answer them LIVE and on the air! Questions came in from all around the world, and we tackle them head on. We discuss if having children is being responsible, what are the chances of Boris Johnson doing a good job as Prime Minister, and "Paul, from London" confronts us on why Paul from London isn't allowed to join for the interviews. This episode was streamed live to our Twitter, YouTube, and Facebook pages! | |||
28 Oct 2022 | Bonus. Hali Hewa: Gender and the Climate Crisis with Sofanit Mesfin | 00:27:25 | |
Welcome to the fifth episode of the Hali Hewa Podcast. ‘Hali Hewa’ is a Swahili term for ‘climate ' and this podcast series is hosted and produced by Kenyan climate activist, Abigael Kima. In the lead up to the COP27 international climate negotiations, which are now just a month away, Abigael interviews African climate change experts and activists on the issues that matter most to them. Guests sign off each episode by sharing what they feel the COP27 conference must deliver on. Our guest today is Sofanit Mesfin. Sofanit is a gender specialist working as the Regional Gender and Social Inclusion Coordinator at Ripple Effect, formerly known as ‘Send A Cow’. Ripple Effect works with smallholder farmers to equip them with knowledge and skills enabling them to improve their livelihoods and thrive. Farmers working alongside Ripple Effect learn more, grow more and sell more. They can feed their families nutritious food, and by having a surplus to sell can invest in their farms, send their children to school and build sustainable agri-businesses. In this episode, Sofanit takes us through her journey working with women farmers in different African countries to deliver training programs that help them adapt to a changing climate. She explains how and why women and children are disproportionately affected by the impacts of climate change, and what Ripple Effect is doing to ease the burden on women, children and their households. Sofanit also explains how other stakeholders can come on board to support this kind of work, ensuring that more and more communities get support to build resilience and secure a healthy future for themselves and their children. Sofanit signs off the show by sharing what she wants the upcoming COP27 climate conference in Egypt to deliver in November. Enjoy the show! Learn more about Ripple Effect Linkedin | Facebook | YouTube | Twitter | Website [Note: I recently had the privilege to visit women farmers in Busia and Bungoma in the Western Region of Kenya. I learned a lot from them about methods to improve food production, and how these practices allowed them to better their lives and that of their families. Follow the Hali Hewa Podcast on social media to see these interviews] | |||
15 Aug 2019 | 17. How Canada Came Back with Catherine McKenna | 00:35:02 | |
With Canada's warming rate blazing at a speed of two times the normal rate of growing global temperatures, the clock is ticking. This week, Paul and Christiana discuss the triumphant return of Canada to the table on global climate talks after a decade of absence, and later in the episode Christiana sits down with Catherine McKenna, the Canadian Minister of the Environment and Climate Change under Justin Trudeau. They get nerdy with it on climate policy and really wrestle with the uncomfortability of what it feels like to be in the midst of a transition on energy. | |||
18 Oct 2019 | 26. Saving the Planet Begins at Breakfast with Jonathan Safran Foer | 00:48:12 | |
With a little too much going on in the world of climate change, we try something new this week with Christiana, Paul, and Tom each bringing something they are outraged by or optimistic for. Later, we hear from American novelist, Jonathan Safran Foer. His latest and greatest work, "We Are The Weather" is a fresh look at the climate crisis, with a challenge to start saving the planet with your breakfast. Think you're up for it? | |||
20 Mar 2020 | 44. Caring in the Times of Corona | 00:47:56 | |
As the news rolls in everyday from COVID-19, we take a pause to reflect on this past week. The sudden change in human behavior, how governments have done massive interventions to protect citizens, the ambition and action of businesses to slow contamination, and lastly, how humans have rediscovered humanity in caring for one another. Christiana brings a list of amazing things happening in the the midst of the pandemic, and Tom shares a bit about how a revelation during his time as a Buddhist Monk could change the world. Send us your stories of how you're experiencing this new normal: podcast@globaloptimism.com ATTN: W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm | |||
07 Nov 2024 | 270. What Does This Trump Presidency Mean for Climate? | 00:58:10 | |
As the news of Donald Trump’s 2024 US election victory makes headlines around the world, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson unpack Trump and Harris’s campaign and discuss the implications of a Trump-led administration on US climate ambition, both domestically and internationally. Or as Tom puts it, “What the hell just happened in the US?” Join the hosts as they analyze potential shifts in policy, how business and finance could counterbalance federal setbacks, and what this means for COP29, NDCs, and global multilateral efforts. During their discussion, the hosts pose some crucial questions: how would a US withdrawal from the Paris Agreement impact global decarbonisation progress? What role will China play as the climate leadership landscape shifts? Amidst these turbulent times, we’re thrilled to inject a dose of much needed optimism by welcoming Congresswoman-Elect Yassamin Ansari to Outrage + Optimism. Fresh from her election to the US House of Representatives for Arizona’s 3rd District, Yassamin joins us with her inspiring perspective on leading progressive change at the federal level. Her election, which makes her the second ever Iranian American to be elected to Congress, brings hope for resilient climate leadership despite federal setbacks.
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GUEST Congresswoman-Elect Yassamin Ansari Website | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter (X)
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13 Dec 2021 | 133. Innovative Finance to Fast-Forward Climate Solutions with Hiro Mizuno | 00:39:28 | |
COP26 saw announcement after announcement from the financial sector, but we have questions. First off, why the sudden wake-up? What will follow? And, critically, will it be enough to address the climate crisis? Here to help us make sense of the fast-moving developments is Hiro Mizuno, Special Envoy of U.N Secretary-General on Innovative Finance and Sustainable Investments. Hiro shares his deep insights into the financial landscape since the shift towards recognition of the systemic risk posed by the climate crisis. Reaching back to the Industrial Revolution, Hiro talks us through the role of the finance industry in accelerating change. Financial institutions’ competitive nature may well drive their transition to net-zero business models and portfolios – but it’ll be the next twelve months that prove the worth of the COP26 announcements, Hiro reminds us. Covering regulation, GFANZ, public trust, carbon pricing, and much more, this is a wide-ranging conversation not to be missed.
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Thank you to our guest this week, Hiro Mizuno!
Hiro Mizuno Special Envoy of U.N Secretary-General | Innovative Finance + Sustainable Investments
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21 Oct 2021 | 121. Small Countries, Big Vision with Nicola Sturgeon | 00:50:57 | |
*inhales deeply* Fresh off the TED Countdown Stage and moments after the ‘Green Carpet’ at The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021 AND a week and a half away from COP26 - Has there ever been a more exciting moment? This week we give our first-hand experience at TED Countdown, discussing ‘the moment’ and what followed when Christiana was moderating a discussion on the TED stage about our theories of change with Ben van Beurden, Chris James and Lauren MacDonald. Also Christiana and Tom recall a few exciting moments from the Earthshot Prize Awards and the future investment in scaling these 5 award winning solutions to meet our rapidly approaching climate targets. In an incredible interview, our very special guest this week is First Minister of Scotland, Nicola Sturgeon. We met her at her residence in Edinburgh to discuss this new vision she has for small countries collaborating on climate action, and the phenomenal TED Talk she had just delivered (ensured by a standing ovation). Tom says, “it was one of the best I’ve ever seen.” And in perfect harmony with this week’s subject- An amazing song this week from DIVEST - we hear them play ‘Something’s About to Change’. It’s really, really good. Enjoy the show!
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Mentioned links from the episode:
Absolutely Required Viewing: Decarbonizing fossil fuels: An unedited discussion from TED Countdown Summit Follow Up Read: Christiana Figueres reflects on the emotionally charged climate debate that riveted TED Watch: The Earthshot Prize Awards 2021
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Thank you to our guest this week, Nicola Sturgeon!
Nicola Sturgeon First Minister of Scotland
Office of the First Minister
Scottish Government
Net Zero Scotland
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The incredible DIVEST was is our musical guest this week
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Give them a follow and check out their new EP - Mercury Retrograde
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09 Sep 2021 | 113. Time's Up! We Need Everyone to Fight for 1.5 | 00:30:03 | |
Season 4 is here! The past few months have been astonishing. It’s no news to anyone that climate change is here, right now. In fact, it’s reported by the Washington Post that in the US, nearly 1 in 3 people live in a county hit by a weather disaster in the past three months, and even more terrifying, 2 out of 3 live in a place that experienced a multi-day heatwave. Time is up. We can’t squabble and scapegoat ourselves into a better future. Let’s swallow the alarm clock and take action on climate! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise __ Mentioned links from the episode: Nearly 1 in 3 Americans experienced a weather disaster this summer - Washington Post — Join the conversation online: Christiana Figueres
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13 Feb 2024 | 231. Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection - Part Two - Living WITH Nature | 01:03:37 | |
This week, Christiana Figueres and her guest co-host Isabel Cavelier Adarve introduce the second episode in their mini-series, Our Story of Nature: From Rupture to Reconnection. In this episode, Living With Nature, the hosts share a series of conversations with experts from the worlds of food, the economy, energy and design to illuminate how our man-made systems are rooted in a separation from the natural world. You’ll hear insight and fresh ideas from author Kate Raworth, Founder and Executive Chair, EAT Gunhild Stordalen, energy strategist at Rocky Mountain Institute Kingsmill Bond, author of the Earth Transformed: An Untold History, Peter Frankopan and co-founder of Biomimicry, Janine Benyus. With appropriate outrage, Christiana and guests will explore how the climate crisis, the energy crisis, the inequality crisis and the food crisis all share the same deep root: extractivism based on extrinsic principles. They argue that this extractivism not only depletes the planet—the very soil of the Earth itself—it also depletes our human soul. With characteristic and bold optimism, Christiana, Isabel and guests will argue that if we can overthrow the tyranny of GDP, invest in harvesting rather than in extraction, and if we design our world mimicking nature’s genius, we might yet create a future where humans and nature thrive in balance. This episode is part of a series that shines a new light on humanity’s fundamental relationship with the rest of nature as key to responding to the climate crisis and to transitioning into a regenerative future. Do not miss the third and final episode, Living As Nature, in which Christiana and Isabel invite listeners to contemplate what it will take for each of us to fully awaken to our interconnectedness as, perhaps, the starting point - the foundational stone - without which no new home can be built for a truly regenerative future. Please don’t forget to let us know what you think here, and / or by contacting us on our social media channels or via the website.
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GUESTS
Arturo Escobar, Professor Emeritus of Anthropology Kate Raworth, Author of Doughnut Economics and Co-founder of Doughnut Economics Action Lab Krista Tippett, award-winning journalist, author and host of On Being podcast Dr. Gunhild Anker Stordalen, Founder and Executive Chair of EAT Foundation Kingsmill Bond, Energy Strategist at RMI Janine Benyus, Co-Founder Biomimicry 3.8 and Biomimicry Institute
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20 Jan 2021 | BONUS: U.S. Inauguration Special with Gina McCarthy | 00:52:39 | |
Today we witness history, the 59th United States Presidential Inauguration. And a long time coming, right? It’s been 4 years of destructive and incompetent leadership on climate from the United States federal government, but today the U.S. is BACK. Not only formally back in the Paris Climate Agreement, but back at the table with leadership and new positions in the White House creating the policy, action, and messaging around climate action. So who better to talk to on this historic day than the incoming National Climate Policy Chief, and a beloved friend of this podcast, Gina McCarthy. Most recently President and CEO of NRDC, she was also the 13th administrator of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency under President Obama, where she ushered in a paradigm shift in national environmental policy, which expressly linked it to global public health. Literally on her way to receive her COVID vaccine in DC so she can work at the White House, Gina pulled over to talk about what we can expect from this new office, new administration, and new moment. — Help us shape Season 3 of Outrage + Optimism by filling out our short listener survey! – Thank you! — Thank you to our guest this week, Gina McCarthy! Follow Gina McCarthy on Twitter Click Here to listen to our previous episode with Gina. — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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18 Jul 2019 | 13. Seeking Fairness in an Unfair World with Angel Gurría | 00:40:05 | |
This week we ask, “In a fair world, who shares the responsibility of reducing carbon emissions?” Christiana goes for a run and comes back with an insightful metaphor to help us, Tom shares about his trip to coal country in West Virginia, and Paul Dickinson explains what the OECD is and why you should know about it. Later in the episode we talk with Angel Gurría, Secretary General of the OECD. He shares why a “big, fat, price on carbon.” is how we truly change our behavior, and our world. | |||
16 May 2024 | 246. Trump's Oily Offer, Mobilizing Young Climate Voters and The State of Scientists | 00:38:12 | |
This week, with Tom away, our hosts are joined by Dr. Sweta Chakraborty, Climate Behavioural Scientist & CEO of North America, We Don't Have Time. Together they wrestle on the spectrum of outrage and optimism with the news of Trump's message to oil and gas executives, the part young people play in the climate vote and what impact the survey of IPCC scientists published in the Guardian had on the global community. Please remember to keep sending in your conundrums for our up and coming ‘How to Live a Good Life’ series. Email us at podcast@globaloptimism.com or send a voice message to Outrage + Optimism.
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GUEST Dr. Sweta Chakraborty, Climate Behavioural Scientist & CEO of North America, We Don't Have Time LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter (X)
We Don’t Have Time Facebook | LinkedIn | Twitter (X) | Instagram | YouTube
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26 Sep 2024 | 259. Live! From Climate Week NYC with Mission 2025 | 00:58:10 | |
In this special episode, our hosts are live at Climate Week New York, joined onstage by a stellar line-up of influential voices from government, the private sector, science, civil society and academia. This flagship event highlights how transformative climate strategies can be supercharged. The conversation centers on the push for ‘positive tipping points’ across three key themes: energy, nature & food, and finance. Supported by Mission 2025 Partners and convened by Groundswell – a collaboration between Global Optimism, Bezos Earth Fund, and Systems Change Lab – alongside the Climate Group, the event showcases leaders from various sectors driving impactful change. Mission 2025 is a coalition of bold leaders, including mayors, governors, CEOs, investors, athletes, musicians, and everyday citizens, all rallying governments to strengthen their national climate commitments (Nationally Determined Contributions) in alignment with the Paris Agreement goal of limiting global warming to 1.5°C. Known as the 'Defenders of Paris,' Mission 2025 Partners arrived at Climate Week NYC with exciting updates. New organizations are stepping up to support governments in setting more ambitious climate plans, accelerating action that can unlock trillions in private investment, boost renewable energy, help industries thrive in a low-carbon economy, and ensure equitable living standards for all. Tune in to hear the latest from Climate Week NYC and how global leaders are working together to shape a sustainable future!
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GUESTS
Simon Stiell, Executive Secretary of UN Climate Change Jennifer Morgan, Special Envoy for International Climate Action Tim Lenton, Professor of Earth System Science at University of Exeter Veena Balakrishnan, Political Scientist, Intersectional Environmentalist. Co - Founder, Youth Negotiators Academy LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter (X) Renata Koch Alvarenga, Disaster Risk Financing Specialist, World Bank I Master of Public Policy, Harvard University I Founder and Executive Director, EmpoderaClima LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter (X) Vaishali Nigam Sinha, Co-Founder of ReNew and Chairperson Sustainability Günther Thallinger, Member of the Board of Management of Allianz SE, Investment Management, Sustainability Peter Bakker, President & CEO at World Business Council for Sustainable Development (WBCSD) Helen Clarkson, Chief Executive Officer at Climate Group Nigar Arpadarai, Climate Change High-Level Champion for COP29 LinkedIn | Instagram | Twitter (X) HE Ana Toni, National Secretary for Climate Change at the Ministry of Environment and Climate Change, from Brazil as COP30 Presidency
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11 Sep 2020 | 69. Climate Action is a Team Sport with Uber's Dara Khosrowshahi | 00:56:40 | |
It all started one cold night in Paris in December 2008. Two American friends visiting the city couldn’t get a taxi and this frustration inspired them to ask ‘what if’? What if it were possible to order a car ride with a simple tap on your mobile? Since both came from successful San Francisco tech backgrounds, it wasn’t surprising that this personal experience led to the creation of the company that is today the global tech on-demand transportation platform, Uber. Now Uber is all grown up. It’s a publicly listed company, known for fuelling the gig economy – and has become embedded in our language and culture. The company operates in over 10,000 cities in 69 countries with a variety of services beyond personal rides including UberEats, cycle share schemes and more. Uber however has not stopped asking ‘what if’ and has chosen this crucial decade to set itself the challenge of integrating global climate targets with a seamless user experience. Outrage + Optimism hosts, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson talked to Uber’s CEO Dara Khosrowshahi about the company’s announcement this week of its commitment to meet the goal of net zero by 2040, a bold and necessary step to tackle the climate crisis. We are fascinated by the potential this has for changing the culture of the 5 million active drivers and for millions of Uber riders taking 18 million trips between them every day. To fuel the greener electrified system, app users will have the option to favour drivers of hybrid and electric cars through Uber Green, and in future, can select from different forms of mobility based on their priorities at any given moment – cost, time, or carbon. Uber says they will literally put the power on our fingertips to contribute to the greening of our cities. You can listen to the whole episode here. Why does Uber’s announcement this week really matter to people who live in cities around the world? The Paris Agreement, signed by 195 counties in 2015, calls for a unifying goal to reach net zero emissions by 2050. This is based on the global scientific consensus that doing so will allow us to stay below 1.5C of global warming, beyond which it becomes more economically and socially disruptive to live with the effects of climate change. According to the EPA transportation accounts for 28.2% of the greenhouse gas emissions in the United States of America. Most of this comes from the emissions of cars, trucks, ships and other forms of transportation. Over 90% of the fuels used in transportation are from fossil fuels, mainly oil (or petroleum) sources. These not only cause damage to the environment, they cause the air pollution around the world that results in the premature deaths of 7 million people every year, according to the World Health Organisation. During the COVID-19 crisis, people with underlying respiratory health issues have been more likely to die when they contract the virus, so we need to converge the solutions to the climate change, inequality, health and economic crises. Cities, where the vast majority of Uber rides take place, account for 70% of global carbon emissions and are home to more than half of all people on earth. As the world continues to urbanise, making cities sustainable is one of the biggest challenges – and opportunities – that we have. We will need resilient cities that support a good quality of life for all. By 2050 there will be 9 billion of us on the planet and 68% of us will live in cities. This means the frontlines of climate change are the cities of the world and moves like Uber’s will make cities more liveable and critically enable urban populations to survive and thrive in a new co-created urban economy. By committing to net zero by 2040, Uber plans to play its part in tackling the most pressing issues facing humanity in this, the most decisive decade in human history. Dara Khosrowshahi’s letter explaining the company’s commitment is available to read here: https://www.uber.com/en-GB/newsroom/leadership/dara-khosrowshahi/ --- Our special musical guest, Emmanuel Jal: --- Keep up with Christiana here: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook --- Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Join @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn --- Dont forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
04 Dec 2020 | 81. Climate Justice and Racial Justice with David Lammy | 01:03:18 | |
Around the world In 2020, we saw an unprecedented rise in activism surrounding Black Lives Matter and the call for racial and social justice. But if there’s one enormous takeaway for those marching for the climate, it is that our fight for climate justice is inextricably linked to our fight for racial justice. BIPOC have suffered, are suffering, and will continue to disproportionately suffer the harshest effects of climate change. Unacceptable. So what clear actions can organizations, individuals, and institutions take to rectify this massive injustice? Taking us to the heart of the matter this week is our guest, British MP David Lammy. David Lammy was the first black Briton to study at Harvard Law School and practised as a barrister before entering politics. He has served as the MP for Tottenham since 2000 and as Shadow Secretary of State for Justice and Shadow Lord Chancellor in Keir Starmer's Shadow Cabinet since 2020. David is one of Parliament’s most prominent and successful campaigners for social justice. His recent TED Talk titled “Climate Justice Can’t Happen Without Racial Justice” has amassed millions of views and has become required viewing for anyone involved in climate action. Stick around to the end for a special musical performance from Blackout Problems!
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31 May 2019 | 6. Looking for Leadership with Ben Rhodes | 00:39:58 | |
The Paris Agreement requires countries to increase their climate ambition every 5 years and the first test of that arrives in 2020. Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss the political outlook and which countries can lead this with the US so firmly out of the picture. Christiana then discusses the issue with Ben Rhodes, former Deputy National Security Adviser to President Obama, and specifically discusses his experience with Modi and Xi and what it will take for them to lead the world to greater climate action. | |||
13 Dec 2022 | 183. And Then a HERO Comes Along | 00:34:55 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. Who are our heroes? How do we select them? In addition to parents, families, partners, friends, comic book characters, or others on your list, you might want to add today’s guests. In this episode, co-host Christiana Figueres speaks with climate activists Mauricio Porras and Anuna De Wever about HERO一a climate tech startup on a mission to empower people to accelerate change in the world. Co-founder Porras and advisory board member De Wever share the inspiring story behind this extraordinary organization and platform一which enables subscribers to provide critical financial support to those on the frontlines of climate action. Links on how to subscribe are below! As climate activists, they are all too familiar with how draining such work can be. Most activists, in fact, must hold down other jobs to support themselves. This often becomes exhausting, and untenable一which can negatively impact the campaign’s momentum. Find out how HERO creatively addresses this very real need for financial support while sharing highlights of activist journeys and connecting climate “mobilizers” (their term) with broader communities worldwide. It’s an uplifting conversation that touches on tech, finance, innovation, communication, climate, and some of the true heroes of the climate movement. You won’t want to miss it! As the holiday season approaches please consider supporting the activist community by subscribing to a policy circle of your choice.
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22 Jun 2023 | 205. How To Talk About Climate Change So People Will Listen | 00:50:35 | |
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09 Mar 2023 | 191. The Stories of Women are Precious | 00:54:09 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.
This week, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson interrupt their previously scheduled programming一the launch of the O+O miniseries discussed last week一to celebrate International Women’s Day (recognized annually on March 8) with CEO & Leadership Activist Fabian Dattner. The team also covers big news about our oceans’ future and closes with music from Child Seat.
Tom starts with the news that after nearly 20 years, members of the United Nations have finally agreed on the United Nations High Seas Treaty, an international framework to protect biodiversity in international waters. It’s a massive achievement that protects the migratory routes of some of our most iconic species and demonstrates significant multilateral cooperation.
Oh, and negotiations were led by Rena Lee, Singapore’s Ambassador for Oceans and Law of the Sea Issues and Special Envoy of the Minister for Foreign Affairs一another great reason to celebrate International Women’s Day.
On a related note, Christiana references a disturbing statistic from a report prepared by GWL Voices for Change and Inclusion, an advocacy group of 62 current and former senior women leaders, that women have held just 12% of top positions at 33 of the largest multilateral institutions since 1945. Clearly, we still have a ways to go in the pursuit of gender equality.
Next, the trio welcomes CEO & Leadership Activist and the founder of the global leadership consultancy the Dattner Group, Fabian Dattner. The group discusses Dattner’s work at the nexus of leadership, support for women, and STEM (science, technology, engineering, and mathematics). While it may sound like an unconventional combination, Dattner explains how it all came together一initially in a dream一and later in her Homeward Bound initiative. It is, our co-hosts agree, an unassailable mix of what our world desperately needs and could use more of.
Later, Dattner brings up her trip to Antarctica and how the concept of success is as dangerous as the concept of failure. For many women, Dattner explains, success can be framed as an elusive ideal. She counsels that if you aren’t willing to fail, there’s nothing you can achieve because success is mostly a string of failures. These are just some of the topics from the group’s lively exchange!
Finally, the episode closes with the track “Burning” from indie rock powerhouse Child Seat.
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Here’s the 20023 Edelman Annual Trust Barometer referenced in the episode.
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22 Nov 2019 | 31. How to Face The Mess We're in Without Going Crazy with Joanna Macy | 00:45:52 | |
As the US approaches Thanksgiving week, we quiet ourselves for an intimate interview with environmental activist, Buddhist scholar, and deep ecologist, Joanna Macy. She shares why we should suffer with the world as we experience the climate crisis, and why that's a tall order for our current political economy. But before that, Paul almost curses about how frustrating Bjorn Lomborg is, and Tom and Christiana share exciting details about their new book, "The Future We Choose" Pre-sale Available Now! | |||
03 Jul 2020 | 59. Richard Curtis Wants to Make Your Money Matter | 01:00:43 | |
This week, a LIVEstream episode! We were joined by activist and filmmaker, Richard Curtis, for his second time on the podcast! His latest initiative, Make My Money Matter is a campaign to shift the £3 trillion invested in UK pensions away from fossil fuels, arms, and meat production over to clean energy, healthcare, and human rights. This initiative is helping vegans not unknowingly invest in meat production, helping doctors not unknowingly invest in tobacco, and the list goes on. Amazing stuff. And later on in the episode, another Outrage + Optimism first! A live musical performance from Beans on Toast of his song, "On & On". Check out the music video for "On & On": https://bit.ly/2YTfRWL --- Want to watch the livestream of this episode? You can view it here on facebook: https://bit.ly/2YRopNZ Get informed about what your pension can do at: https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk Really excited that this is our first episode partnering with SoFar Sounds! You can learn more about supporting artists around the world through live shows and performances at https://www.sofarsounds.com Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media! | |||
30 Oct 2020 | 76. Decision Time 2020 with John Podesta | 01:11:17 | |
Election Day is next Tuesday, November 3rd. It cannot be ignored - How the US will vote next week will have global consequences. What does the outcome look like as we see it just before Election Day, and how on Earth did we get here to this one single decision that will shape what feels like everything for generations to come? In our search for understanding (and peace of mind) we pose all of our concerns, worries, and questions to one of the leading experts in US politics and US climate policy, John Podesta. John Podesta served as White House Chief of Staff to President Bill Clinton, served as an advisor to President Barack Obama, and was Chair of Hillary Clinton's 2016 presidential campaign. With 52 years in presidential politics, and with the experience of running a campaign against Republican candidate Donald Trump, we sit down for an insightful view on what chances Democratic candidate Joe Biden has of winning the presidency this time around, as well as a forecast of what we should expect next week on Election Day. Stick around after the conversation to hear a musical performance from the band OK Go!
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11 Dec 2023 | 225. COP28: The Snapshot vs The Movie | 00:20:10 | |
With much of the world’s media focusing on the language of the final text at COP 28 to determine the success or failure of the COP and Dr Sultan’s presidency, Tom, with the help of friend of the show and High Level Climate Champion for COP 26, Nigel Topping; and H.E. Razan Al Mubarak, UN Climate Change High Level Champion for COP 28, take a different lens on what has been unfolding at COP 28 aside from the phase out/down controversy. NOTES AND RESOURCES
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09 Dec 2021 | 132. Getting Over The Line at COP26 with Alok Sharma | 00:59:15 | |
Countries have stepped up. Projected emission trajectories have come down. But let’s be real for a moment- We are still not doing enough, fast enough. So what did this year's host of the COP26 get right, and what is still in play as we prepare for COP27? Today we talk with Alok Sharma, President of COP26 and the man in the spotlight of the Glasgow negotiations just a few weeks back. As Alok takes us back through his experience at COP26 keeping 1.5°C front and center, the grounding truth of how The Glasgow Pact directly impacts the lives and livelihoods of millions of people becomes crystal clear. In this episode we hear from his perspective how fighting climate change must be both a personal experience and global effort, and how building trust was a precious commodity in the discussions, holding the key to all the parties mutually agreeing to get an agreement over the line. But, how is this hard-earned political trust perceived outside the negotiation halls? It seems an increasingly challenging task to ensure that this is communicated in a digestible way to all the stakeholders working tirelessly for the phasing out of fossil fuels, climate justice, adaptation, as well as loss and damage. Listen in to discover the presidency’s plans on how to ensure that no small piece of the process allows it all to tumble down like a big jenga tower. And stick around after the conversation for a cinematic musical experience with Sarah Class!
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09 Feb 2023 | 186. The Breakthrough Effect | 01:05:13 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss US President Joe Biden’s State of the Union address, a possible green race to the top across the G7 nations, and how to identify positive economic tipping points with Kelly Levin, Co-Director of the Systems Change Lab and Chief of Science, Data and Systems Change for the Bezos Earth Fund, which provides grants to support the climate and nature. The team agrees that United States politics, as witnessed through the lens of the annual State of the Union speech, seems like a slugfest, with jabs from both sides but no winner. Still, they admire Biden’s multiple references to climate change as a global security issue affecting vulnerable people一rather than more political drama. Also worth discussing: Could Biden have a chance at winning reelection in 2024? The trio weighs in. Next, Kelly Levin discusses the Breakthrough Effect, a groundbreaking report on how to trigger a cascade of tipping points to accelerate the net zero transition. She outlines the three super leverage points that could prompt the “tipping of the tipping points” to bring about planet-saving climate action. Electric vehicles (EVs), green ammonia, and alternative proteins play a role. The co-hosts contend this is a welcome concept一that if we can trigger the right leverage points, we can cause a global cascade of positive climate change. From there, we can go from a linear to exponential transformation. It’s almost a relief to think it’s possible, especially in the face of grinding, slow change that seemingly won’t be fast enough to save the planet. You won’t want to miss this fascinating conversation! Finally, alt-pop singer-songwriter Panteon closes the episode with the beautiful acoustic track “Archipelago.”
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02 Oct 2020 | 72. No Room for Being Cynical with Ted Danson | 01:06:50 | |
Plenty of outrage this week after the first U.S. Presidential Debate and disappointing news about the biodiversity pledge. But a conversation with Ted Danson offers hope and insight from his remarkable life and commitment to the worlds oceans. When Ted met environmental lawyer Bob Sulnick he become involved in a movement to prevent digging for oil wells in Santa Monica. Buoyed up by the victory, Danson accelerated his involvement by helping create the American Oceans Campaign in 1987, which eventually became Oceana in 2001. You can learn more about Oceana by visiting them here
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05 Nov 2021 | 127. Live from COP26! Energy For People and Planet | 00:43:42 | |
Coming to you LIVE from Energy Day at COP26! So, energy and climate change. Where should we start? With both the IEA World Energy Outlook and the IPCC AR6 Scientific assessment that came out this year declaring that coal has peaked, we also know that gas and then oil must also peak and see their way to the museums, as Christiana would say. 1.5C has been the only north star at COP26 to doing things like consigning coal to history, and every step towards decarbonizing our economy paints a clearer and clearer understanding more than ever before that we have to start now to cut emissions in one half by 2030 and restore and protect nature, at the same time. But how does this apply to the developing world? The right to development is unquestionable, morally and also economically. But whilst those in rich and middle income countries received energy from fossil fuel sources that enabled their development, the situation that put us in is forcing us to think differently about providing clean, low carbon, and affordable energy to ensure societies that are bearing climate impacts the most harshly are also given an equal and equitable pathway to develop. So where do we begin to provide accessible, clean, affordable energy to all? What are the challenges, what are the benefits, how will this new fund support billions of people to live better lives - and how fast can it be achieved? Tune in to find out!
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04 Oct 2019 | 24. It's Time to Rebel with Gail Bradbrook | 00:42:03 | |
This week, we prepare for mass civil disobedience with the International Rebellion beginning Monday, October 7th. We get on the line with Gail Bradbrook, co-founder of Extinction Rebellion and hear her explain the shared human experience behind mass civil disobedience, and finding ourselves in deeper purpose through grief and suffering. We may or may not also bring up a few other light topics like ceremonial ayahuasca, spiral dynamics, and Suffragettes. | |||
02 Jun 2022 | 156. Why It's "Not Too Late" with Rebecca Solnit and Thelma Young Lutunatabua | 00:53:06 | |
Reactions to the now infamous presentation of the suspended HSBC Head of Responsible Investing, Stuart Kirk, is still a source of considerable outrage here at Outrage + Optimism. Kirk’s presentation entitled "Why investors need not worry about climate risk" peddled such dangerous climate disinformation that it prompted Christiana to refer to it in her brilliant op-ed in Investor Week as one of the most irresponsible public statements we have heard in years. In this week’s episode brace yourself for Paul’s no holds barred account of what he really thinks about Stuart Kirk’s views and hear Christiana expand on why opinions like Kirk’s threaten the emergence of stakeholder capitalism. Tom’s insightful analysis further links the growing movement of incumbents rallying against ‘woke capitalism’ with the corporate disclosure of emissions and climate risk that is about to be regulated in the US and the EU.
Thankfully our main interview this week features a previous, much loved, Outrage + Optimism guest Rebecca Solnit, and the inspirational Thelma Young Lutunatabua whose Not Too Late project offers us the tools to tackle this current wave of disinformation, and provides tangible stories of hope. Hear how the project aims to invite newcomers to the climate movement, as well as providing climate facts and encouragement for people who are already engaged but weary. Listening to these two incredible women speak about Not Too Late ‘rang a bell of truth in our souls’ as Thelma so beautifully puts it in the interview. Sit back and be sure to enjoy the remarkable track Preacher Man by Mica Millar.
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25 Nov 2021 | 130. Opening Hearts with Elizabeth Wathuti | 01:06:45 | |
With the ink still drying on The Glasgow Pact, we’re already hearing the results from Glasgow being labeled in binary terms like “Success” and “Failure” While we know that some stunning pledges and progressive language in the Pact came from some of the negotiations, it is also true that historically these pledges have not been met completely, or have been missed entirely. Full stop. So with millions of humans suffering under the systemic injustice of rising global emissions, how do we meet this moment to reduce those global emissions and break those unjust systems of oppression? And how does the COP process make those necessary changes politically possible? And in the next eight years?! Maybe it’s as simple as starting with silence. This week we speak with Elizabeth Wathuti, environmentalist and climate activist from Kenya. She is the founder and president of Green Generation Initiative, and Head of Campaigns and Daima Consortium Coordinator for the Wangari Maathai Foundation. Elizabeth brought the house down at COP26 this year with her speech in which she led a moment of silence followed by the urgency to every Head of State in the room to “ please open your hearts”. You won’t want to miss what she has to say to us on the show! Stick around ‘til the end for an incredible music track from Knomad Spock! _ Excerpt from Elizabeth Wathuti's speech at COP26, reproduced courtesy of the UN. Excerpt from the Opening Ceremony of the World Leaders Summit at COP26, November 2021. Available here: Elizabeth Wathuti at COP26 “Please Open Your Hearts” Speech — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Mentioned links from the episode: Read: Martin Wolf’s piece in The FT __ Thank you to our guest this week, Elizabeth Wathuti! Elizabeth Wathuti Environmentalist | Climate Activist Twitter | Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn — The incredible Knomad Spock is our musical guest this week! Knomad Spock Twitter | Facebook | Instagram — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson: — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
22 Mar 2021 | BONUS: What The Hale Does This Mean? with Thomas Hale: Net Zero Goals | 00:18:31 | |
A bonus episode for you this week! With science demanding that in order to stay below 1.5C we must reach “net zero” greenhouse gas emissions by 2050 at the absolute latest, how do we get there? We know we can’t keep emitting as we currently are and just offset to balance it out. We need radical cuts and that means a complete reshaping of the global economy and most business models. Arguably, anyone could shape their net zero goals differently, unless we can compare these (literally) hundreds of commitments that have been made - and hundreds, even thousands more that will continue to come. So here’s a question - what does :net zero” actually mean? Is it the same as carbon neutrality, or any of the other terms we hear and read about? This week, Tom Rivett-Carnac dials up for a quick chat with Dr. Thomas Hale, Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University. He’s part of a team that has just released a report - Taking Stock: A global assessment of net zero targets. The report is the first quantitative analysis of the robustness of the different types of net zero targets and provides a baseline against which we can compare country, city, or company level net zero commitments. __ Heard something about climate change you don’t understand, or a term that isn't clear to you? Tweet us @GlobalOptimism starting your question with 'What the Hale', tell us what you want to know and we'll get the answer directly from Dr. Thomas Hale for you! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn __ Dr. Thomas Hale Associate Professor of Global Public Policy, Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford Blavatnik School of Government, University of Oxford __ Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
09 May 2019 | 3. It's an Emergency with William Hague | 00:43:36 | |
This week Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss what has been happening in the UK from mass civil disobedience to the declaration of a climate emergency and the first week without coal since 1882. We then discuss all this with William Hague, former Foreign Secretary under David Cameron and ask him how politicians on the right can get engaged in responding to the climate crisis, and whether he thinks the moment to take to the streets has now arrived. | |||
27 Apr 2023 | 197. What If Our Best Times Are Ahead Of Us? | 00:55:59 | |
Welcome to another bumper episode of Outrage + Optimism!
This week we kick off with a rather triumphant Paul Dickinson revelling in the news that Fox News personality, Tucker Carlson, has parted ways with the corporation. First David Malpass, now Tucker Carlson... We can’t help but wonder who else features on Paul’s mysterious list? Don’t worry Tom, you are quite safe. For now… Christiana, Tom and Paul cover other big news in the US including Biden’s re-election bid; a White House commitment to put $1 billion into the Green Climate Fund; the announcement of the launch of Carbon Management Challenge; and an anticipated Biden vs Trump showdown. The recent G7, IMF and World Bank gatherings also come under the hosts scrutiny. Our interview this week is with two formidable and fantastic women: (Mama) Mary Robinson (Chair of the Elders) and Hafsat Abiola, (President, Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative), who together have launched Project Dandelion, an incredible initiative that has grown out of the Connected Women Leaders network. Finally, we play a brief clip featuring Mary Robinson taken from a short film entitled How Do We Get the World Off Fossil Fuels Quickly and Fairly? This film, recently made and released by our fantastic friends and partners over at TED Countdown serves as the second installment of their brilliant TED Countdown Dilemma Series. Be sure to watch the many varied viewpoints offered by an impressive line-up of guests here.
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Mary Robinson, Chair of The Elders Instagram | Facebook | Website | Twitter | YouTube
Hafsat Abiola, President, Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram
Women in Africa (WIA) Initiative Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook | Website | Twitter | YouTube
Connected Women Leaders (CWL) and Project Dandelion
TED Countdown
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AND - The Environmental Music Prize is BACK for 2023! YOU can take climate action by watching music videos and voting for your favourites to win the $20,000AUD prize!
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04 Dec 2023 | 223. COP28: Will The Word ‘Out’ Be In? | 00:58:27 | |
This week on Outrage + Optimism our hosts give a crucial update from Dubai’s COP28 opening days. With Tom and Paul dialling in direct from Dubai and Christiana offering an outside perspective, the hosts ask: Will the word 'out' be in? What role will governments play in the climate crisis going forward? How brave was it for Dr Sultan to launch with a COP outcome (loss and damage) on day 1? They also discuss the incredible commitment from 134 countries to the food systems declaration, and much, much more in this packed episode. To close this week's episode, we have Louise Harris with ‘We Tried’, a moving and beautiful song about the climate crisis and what will happen if we don’t act. The song became the first ever climate song to reach UK iTunes No.1 and all proceeds go to climate causes.
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Louise Harris Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | DistroKid | YouTube | Spotify
‘We Tried’ is just the beginning of Louise's music activist journey, with plans to release an entire Climate Album in 2024 if she can raise enough funds for it. You can donate to her GoFundMe if you would like to see more songs and videos like ‘We Tried’ from Louise.
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02 Mar 2023 | 189. We Are in Listening Mode | 00:47:43 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson discuss the amazing reviews they’ve received on the podcast and take the opportunity to thank listeners for participating with us in trying to save our planet. The team also announces an upcoming special project they’ve been working on and chats about the nomination of Ajay Banga as World Bank President. A frightening new study on the accelerating rates of extinction is also discussed, and there’s music from Bailen. Paul starts with highlights from the results of a listener feedback survey. First, a whopping 87% of respondents said they’d taken action on climate change since listening to the podcast, which includes sharing the podcast一a key part of our mission一and for which we’re deeply grateful. Plus, only 43% of those listening work in the climate space. That means we’re breaking out of the climate bubble and bringing people outside of climate into the conversation. “Astonishing!” declares Christiana. Wait until you hear the rest! Next, Tom introduces a fresh theme on O+O related to personal projects each of the co-hosts will work on individually and bring to the podcast. Over the next few weeks, Tom will begin the series on different approaches to change一momentum and perfection. He’ll explore whether they can work together, and if so, how? Exciting stuff is on the way! In the following segment, our co-hosts weigh in on the World Bank presidential nomination of Ajay Banga, previously President and CEO of MasterCard. They agree he’s a hopeful choice for, among many other things, bringing climate issues back to the World Bank, which stands in contrast to the positions held by outgoing president David Malpass, a climate denier. Finally, the trio discusses the alarming new study by lead author Dr. Yuangeng Huang of the China University of Geosciences on the steady destruction of biodiversity and how it’s likely to suddenly tip over into total ecosystem collapse. All agree the study didn’t get the coverage it should have, and that it’s critical we’re focused now on strategies and capital allocations to protect and reverse habitat destruction. Climate won’t matter if this doesn’t get done. Again, thank you for taking the time to respond so thoughtfully to our listeners’ survey and to help us improve the podcast.
And before you leave please don’t miss the beautiful three-part family harmonies of Bailen on their moving ballad “Eyelashes.” Correction: We would like to apologise for the mispronunciation of Dr Yuangeng Huang's name during the episode. NOTES AND RESOURCES
To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Find out more about Ajay Banga, the U.S. nomination to lead the World Bank. Here is The Guardian’s coverage of Dr. Yuangeng Huang’s study on ecosystem collapse. Here is Dr. Yuangeng Huang’s study itself. More on Elizabeth Kolbert’s The Sixth Extinction: An Unnatural History referenced in the episode.
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11 Feb 2021 | 88. Living on Planet Earth with Oliver Jeffers | 01:06:27 | |
According to new research by a team of U.S. and U.K. scientists published in Environmental Research, Fossil fuels alone are responsible for more than 8 million premature deaths annually. That’s 1 out of 5 deaths. Let that sink in for a moment. 1 out of 5. This figure underscores a fact absent from much public debate and discussion about climate change. While the fight to stop greenhouse gas pollution by curtailing fossil fuel use is framed in terms of how it would improve the future, it’s also true that fossil fuels are killing millions of people right now. And right now is the time to change our thinking. But when Climate scientists and activists are continuously imploring us to ‘look at the bigger picture’ to address climate change right now, what does this mean? How do we do it? These are questions that our Outrage + Optimism guest, Oliver Jeffers tackles in this week’s interview with Christiana, Tom and Paul, as he delves into how he performs this perspective shift by ‘simple optics’ in his award winning picture books and visual art. Whether brought on by an experience of art, science, religious practice, grief, love or parenthood, there is a need for us all to undergo a change in perspective and see beyond our day to day concerns and routines to grow an awareness of ourselves as a human family with a shared duty to protect our Earth, our home, from growing climate catastrophe. Art like Oliver’s, provides the perfect vehicle for this transformational and necessary journey which we hope you will all join us on. Music this week from the incredible Presidio. Listen in! — Thank you to our guest this week, Oliver Jeffers. Instagram | Facebook | Twitter
Oliver delivered a series of free art classes for children (and adults) in partnership with Harrods in which he demonstrates how to draw some of his best loved characters from his books. His website also includes more free activities for children and their families. An Ode to Living on the Earth is Oliver’s fantastic Ted Talk. The Moon, The Earth and Us is Oliver Jeffers 2019 art installation. This Way Up is the upside down map that Oliver Jeffers referenced in the interview. More of Oliver Jeffers’ art work is available here. These are the temporary tattoos that Clay wants. Here is the Dipped Painting Project. — Our musical guest this week is Presidio! Stream their latest EP - ‘Telepathy’ - Listen to “Unwind” — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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14 Oct 2021 | 120. Taking Business Net Positive with Paul Polman & Andrew Winston | 00:50:35 | |
For the first time ever, we are all in-person bringing you this episode from the TED Countdown Summit in Edinburgh! TED Countdown is an event that officially kicked off on 12th October and encompasses four days of inspiring talks, collaboration, connections and commitments to meaningful action for a better world ahead of COP26. Our guest today is Paul Polman, return Outrage + Optimism guest and a celebrated business leader who made sustainability the heart of a global consumer business’ growth agenda in his former role as CEO of Unilever. He is joined by one of the most widely read, published and acclaimed writers on sustainability, Andrew Winston, to talk about the new book the two have co-authored, “Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take”. We unpack the ways the book re-frames how business can put a lasting end inequality and climate change. Can every business be Net Positive? Find out! Stick around for a track of epic proportions from musical guest, WACO.
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Mentioned links from the episode:
Go buy Paul + Andrew’s new book: Net Positive: How Courageous Companies Thrive by Giving More Than They Take
TED Countdown! Blog (Day 2) | Twitter | Instagram
Clay Recommends - Visualizing Climate Change: An Open Call For Photography
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Thank you to our guests this week, Paul Polman and Andrew Winston!
Paul Polman Influencer, business leader, campaigner
Andrew Winston Writer, Adviser/Speaker on Megatrends & Sustainability, Consultant on Corporate Strategy
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Amazing music this week was from WACO!
WACO Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Spotify
You gotta see their punkishly cosmic music video for “A New Future”
They have a physical copy of their latest record for sale out on Venn Records, made from leftover waste vinyl: “Hope Rituals” - Buy It!
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26 May 2022 | 155. Huge Wins for Future Generations in Australia and Wales with Sophie Howe | 01:09:22 | |
Finally, some optimism for future generations! First, in Australia, the massive success of the so-called ‘teal’ female candidates, who are not aligned to either of the major political parties, but have essentially swept to power across a number of states. This, along with long-awaited Labour victories…Does this mean the climate wars are over in Australia? We dialed up Dean Bialek, lead negotiator and legal advisor to the world’s island states (AOSIS) in negotiations that led to the 2015 Paris Agreement on climate change and current Head of Policy & International Strategy at CWP Global, to give us a quick update on what this major swing in Australian politics means for climate! And for our main interview this week, we sit down with Sophie Howe, Future Generations Commissioner for Wales. Her role is linked to the Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act, which requires public bodies in Wales to think about the long-term impact of their decisions. Described by the Big Issue Magazine as one of the UK’s leading Changemakers, her interventions have secured fundamental changes to land use planning policy, major transport schemes and Government policy on housing - ensuring that decisions taken today are fit for the future, and especially future generations in Wales. And this week a special Outrage + Optimism EXCLUSIVE performance, 'Quémalo' by Kathy Palma (ft. Reyli Barba).
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Mentioned links from the episode:
READ: The Welsh Government’s 2015 Wellbeing and Future Generations Act LISTEN: Repsonse to Listener Review - 4 O+O Episodes on Food Systems
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Thanks to our guest this week, Sophie Howe!
Sophie Howe Future Generations Commissioner for Wales
The Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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And thank you to Dean Bialek for joining us!
Dr Dean Bialek Head, Policy & International Strategy CWP Global
CWP Global
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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Kathy Palma!
Kathy Palma Spotify | Apple Music | YouTube | Tidal | Instagram | Facebook | Website
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Tom Rivett-Carnac Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn
Paul Dickinson
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03 Jun 2021 | 104. Big Hits to Big Oil & Adam Gardner on a Music Climate Revolution | 01:21:16 | |
This week, we talk about the absolute shake up of a week Big Oil had, and a Music Climate Revolution that starts TODAY. First up, a shareholder vote to add three new members to the Exxon board succeeded as part of a strategy by activist hedge fund Engine No. 1 to address the twin concerns of climate change and Exxon’s poor financial performance. One of the new board members is our good friend, Andy Karsner! He joins us at the top of the episode for a quick update on what these seats at the table mean for the Oil and Gas industry moving forward, but especially for humanity and the climate. Second, the unprecedented ruling by a Dutch Court which ordered Royal Dutch Shell to cut its carbon emissions by 45 percent from 2019 levels by 2030 happened. To give us an incredibly exciting executive summary is Lead Campaigner of the case against Shell, Friend of The Earth’s Nine de Pater. And finally for our main interview, we are joined by Co-Founder and Co-Director of Reverb, Adam Gardner, who is also the vocalist and guitarist of the band, Guster.. From intention to action, he expresses the work that Reverb has been doing over the last 18 years to disrupt industry norms and increase the climate positive impact of the music touring industry. Acknowledging the unprecedented influence and reach that musicians have at their disposal, Adam, the newest stubborn optimist recruit, explains how environmentalism can be united with fans’ passion to drive positive change and achieve meaningful environmental, social justice and community gains. And this week for music, we have the privilege of spinning the famous “Satellite” by Guster. Join us, won’t you?
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Watch the Trailer for Breaking Boundaries on YouTube Watch Breaking Boundaries on Netflix
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Thank you to our guest this week, Adam Gardner! Adam Gardner Co-Founder and Co-Director of Reverb | Vocalist and Guitarist for Guster
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A special thank you to Andy Karsner and Nine de Pater
Alexander “Andy” Karsner Board of Directors | ExxonMobil
Nine de Pater Lead Campaigner | Friends of The Earth
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Our musical guest this week is Guster! Spotify | Apple Music | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website
Get your tickets to Guster: On The Rocks
This is Clay’s favorite Guster Song: “One Man Wrecking Machine”
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Check out the song by Moondog that Paul mentioned: Enough About Human Rights
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09 Nov 2023 | 220. Inequality Is At The Root! | 00:39:14 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week, Christiana joins us from Singapore where she has been attending the inspirational Earthshot Prize Awards, a week of climate and nature-based workshops and events, culminating in a prize awarded to 5 winners who are scaling the most innovative solutions to the world’s toughest environmental challenges. She points to the fact that the prize itself also represents a mindset, by acknowledging that we do have what it takes to tackle these issues if we support and finance incredible initiatives such as these. The three hosts also discuss the recent concerning polls around the US Presidential Elections suggesting that our democratic institutions are not delivering solutions to the systemic global challenges we now face. They also touch on other topics; as insurance companies forecast more climate destruction, what does an uninsurable future look like? How do religion and faith communities deliver in the climate crisis?
Music this week comes from DL Rossi, a Singer-Songwriter from the Metro Detroit area of Michigan. His latest single “With Two Feet” speaks to the random nature of life, and the lessons learned from just being able to show up and work through things as they come.
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The Earthshot Prize Awards
MUSICAL GUEST DL Rossi Website | Facebook | Instagram | Bandcamp | Spotify | YouTube
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29 Nov 2023 | 222. Moments of Truth | 00:59:46 | |
This week on Outrage + Optimism our hosts discuss the leaked documents revealing how Adnoc, the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company and Dr. Sultan were planning to use COP 28 meetings with other countries to promote deals for its national oil and gas companies. With Dr Sultan set to give his speech on Thursday, our hosts ask what needs to happen to restore the faltering trust in his presidency and avoid derailing the COP agenda at such a vital time. Our guest this week is Nathaniel Stinnett who founded the Environmental Voter Project, which targets inactive environmentalists, transforming them into consistent voters to build the power of the environmental movement, something which may prove critical given the news that Trump would scrap the landmark IRA and BIL legislations if elected. To close this week's episode, we have Chris Redmond, Co- Artistic Director of Hot Poets with his poem ‘Blink’, with a beautiful musical accompaniment by The Tongue Fu Band (music written by Riaan Vosloo). The poem was commissioned by 3M as part of a series of poems in collaboration with UNFCCC's Resilience Frontiers.
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GUEST Nathaniel Stinnett, Founder & Executive Director of the Environmental Voter Project ARTIST Chris Redmond, Artistic Director - Hot Poets (the film of ‘Blink’ will be released on Thursday 30 November on YouTube and across Hot Poets channels) Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | TikTok The Tongue Fu Band
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19 Dec 2024 | 278. Pets, Preppers and Personal Carbon Budgets | 00:43:01 | |
How can you reduce the environmental impact of your cat or dog? What’s the best way to prepare for climate breakdown? And how should you talk to children about climate? Christiana, Paul and Tom wrap up the year by answering an eclectic and insightful selection of your questions.
Plus: they digest the fourth and final COP of the year, known as the Desertification COP, which took place in December in Saudi Arabia and reflect on their own feelings at the end of a challenging year for the climate movement.
Huge thanks to our community of listeners for all the great questions submitted and all the support this year. Apologies if we didn’t get to your question this time but do keep sending them our way. See you in 2025!
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08 Apr 2021 | 96. Climate Action Is the Adventure of Our Lives with Bertrand Piccard and Dee Caffari | 01:00:55 | |
This week, the climate solutions are here, and they’re neatly labeled.
You may have heard of Bertrand Piccard, the explorer, balloonist, and ‘inspioneer’ who was the first to circumnavigate the globe in a solar powered aircraft in 2016. Well, since then, he’s been on a mission to support climate friendly technologies. With his Solar Impulse Foundation, he is close to having found, assessed and labeled 1000 cleantech solutions that have a positive impact on both the environment and the economy. Now he’s making sure that they get used. In our interview with him this week, we discuss his commitment to create and nurture innovative new ways of thinking that reconcile ecology and economy, providing a compelling argument for business and governments to act today to achieve planetary health and profit with his ‘Tao of Economics’.
And with Tom taking a well earned break away from hosting, we are delighted to introduce a special co-host for this episode, Dee Caffari, MBE! Dee is the first woman to have sailed single-handed and non-stop around the world in both directions and the only woman to have sailed non-stop around the world a total of three times! Yes, you read that right. Having witnessed personally the problem of single use plastics on ocean health, she uses her platform to raise awareness on Ocean health, sustainability, and a new danger - microplastics. Her fascinating first-hand experience and deep thinking on climate change makes determined ambition a reality.
Our adventure awaits!
Hang tight after the interview for a live musical performance from Easy Wanderlings!
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Thank you to our guest this week!
Bertrand Piccard Chairman of the Solar Impulse Foundation | Explorer | Psychiatrist | Inspirational Speaker
Solar Impulse Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin
Check out the climate solutions here: Solar Impulse Solutions
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And thank you to our guest co-host this week:
Dee Caffari, MBE Chair of the World Sailing Trust | World Record Holder | Author and Ocean Advocate Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | LinkedIn | Website
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Our musical guest this week is Easy Wanderlings! Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Website
WATCH: Sofar Mumbai Performance
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As Christiana mentioned in the episode, check out Seaspiracy on Netflix.
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14 Feb 2020 | 39. Science! Leadership! Action! with Rainn Wilson, Dr. Gail Whiteman, and David Perry | 00:49:01 | |
This week we deviate from the normal episode with 3 of our friends! First, we meet up with Rainn Wilson (Dwight Schrute / The Office U.S.) and Dr. Gail Whiteman to talk about @ArcticBasecamp's new campaign, "Speak Science To Power" and how we can give power to scientists and bring science into corporate boardrooms everywhere. Later on David Perry (Indigo Ag / Terraton Initiative) tells us why carbon shouldn't be vilified and how we can solve the climate crisis by looking right where we're standing. Pre-order "The Future We Choose" now! GlobalOptimism.com | |||
27 Mar 2020 | 45. Coming Back Stronger with the Teaching of Thich Nhat Hanh (COVID and Climate #1) | 01:00:55 | |
We're doing something new! This is the first episode on a multiple week journey to discover how we can come back from the crisis of COVID-19 better and stronger in our fight against climate change. In this episode, we are joined by Sister True Dedication and Brother Phap Dung, senior monastics at Plum Village, a monastery started by well-known Buddhist Teacher, Thich Nhat Hanh. Paul brings us an isolation game, we play for you some clips of our life right now in this strange time, and Christiana schools us on her article published in TIME Magazine this week. Visit Plum Village: Plumvillage.org ATTN: W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm | |||
28 Jun 2019 | 10. Trumps' Roll Back of Science with Gina McCarthy | 00:42:39 | |
This week we explore the roll back of President Obama’s Clean Power Plan by the Trump EPA and the replacement with a new rule that will increase emissions and damage human health. We also explore the wider attack on science taking place inside the Trump Administration. Then we talk to Gina McCarthy, former Administrator of the EPA and author of many of the rules in the Clean Power Plan. She lets us in on what is happening, and what still makes her optimistic. | |||
02 Nov 2021 | 125. Banking on Net Zero with Noel Quinn | 00:51:46 | |
The way to Net Zero is through the bank. One of the major questions at COP26 is, “How are we going to finance the transition to Net Zero?” From shifting investments away from fossil fuels, to boosting the speed and scale of green companies bringing forward the necessary solutions to creating a sustainable future for people and planet. ...And profit.
This week, we’re joined by Group Chief Executive of HSBC, Noel Quinn. He recently committed HSBC, with an impressive $3 trillion balance sheet, to have a completely Net Zero portfolio by 2050, and have their own supply chain and operations Net Zero by 2030. All the while significantly expanding their investment in green finance, creating a philanthropic program and clean technology venture fund. We are also joined this week by guest co-host Kelly Clark, Director of Finance & Capital Market Transformation at The Laudes Foundation. Her day job is reimagining our current economic system and redefining value to go beyond shareholder interest. It’s a fascinating conversation and essential to bring about the radical systems change we need to see. Join us!
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Links Mentioned in the Show:
LEARN: GFANZ WATCH: Livestream COP26 from anywhere READ: Noel Quinn’s letter on Net Zero
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Thank you to our Guest & Guest Co-host this week!
Noel Quinn Group Chief Executive | HSBC
HSBC
Kelly Clark Director Finance & Capital Market Transformation | Laudes Foundation
Laudes Foundation
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Race to Zero
COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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07 Nov 2020 | 77. U.S. Election Special: A New Optimism with Ben Rhodes and Todd Stern | 01:02:41 | |
The US election winner has all but been formally declared, with Joe Biden on the cusp of electoral victory. But after all the votes are counted, we see that there was record turnout for both Democrats and Republicans. What mandate does a Biden administration have to lead again globally on climate action? This week we talk with two experts with first hand experience in US climate policy. Ben Rhodes, former Deputy National Security Advisor for President Obama, and Todd Stern, who was the United States Special Envoy for Climate Change leading up to the Paris Agreement. Stick around to the end for a special music performance by MF Tomlinson! ---
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29 Jul 2022 | 166. No Mud, No Lotuses: The Last Episode of Season 5 | 01:35:26 | |
So here we are! 30 episodes later we have finally arrived at the end of Season 5 of the Outrage + Optimism podcast. And what a rollercoaster it has been for all of us in the global climate community since the start of the year! We are due to take a well-earned break over August before we return with gusto in September for Season 6 - but before we go - in this dynamic episode, we take you on a whistlestop tour of the last six months of the podcast, narrated with a present day lens from our hosts, Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson. We hope you will enjoy revisiting the wisdom and inspiration our guests and hosts offered up over the last six months. Even though it has often felt we are in dark times, we invite you to draw from these episodes the gritty determination to believe that we have what it takes to move the trajectory we are currently on to a safer, more resilient and just world. To paraphrase the teaching of Thich Naht Hahn that Christiana recalls in her interview with Plum Village: “No mud, no lotuses’. And in true Outrage and Optimism fashion, playing us out is the talented Australian TV weather presenter and musician, Jessica Braithwaite. Jessica contacted the team recently to share her positive feedback and offer us the use of her single ‘Hello (You Got My Heart)’ to play out the final episode of this season. We jumped at the chance and invited her to reflect on what it means to working as a musician (and weather presenter) in an ecological crisis. We loved her answers - be sure to check out more of her music! Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | TikTok
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08 Jun 2023 | 203. Tomfoolery! Red Herrings! | 01:14:34 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. We were very fortunate to speak to Maurits Dolmans, attorney and partner of Cleary Gottlieb Steen & Hamilton LLP, and a rising star of the Net Zero Lawyers Alliance, who helped us understand the baseless allegations and coordinated propaganda employed by Republican groups (such as Consumers’ Research and the State Financial Officers Foundation) to delay and obfuscate meaningful climate action, while putting voters’ pensions, investments and livelihoods at risk. Expect high octane outrage from this episode! Relief in the form of our talented musical number comes this week from Constant Follower and their track “The Merry Dancers on TV”. Check out their links below. Don’t miss our LIVE Online Podcast Recording & Q+A on Monday, June 12, 2023. Click the link to register and save your spot! Letter from 23 Attorney Generals to the Net Zero Insurers Allianz that Paul mentioned in the episode.
Maurits Dolmans LinkedIn | Blog Co-Authord by Maurits Constant Follower Instagram | Linktr.ee | McAll’s Story Check out UK-based Charity - Help Musicians | |||
06 Apr 2022 | 147. IPCC Report: It's Not Too Late to Mitigate with Ko Barrett | 00:40:35 | |
The World’s scientists have come together on behalf of the web of life to deliver the most comprehensive review of how we can mitigate the effects of climate change. So what’s in this latest IPCC report? The latest from Working Group III covers a broad spectrum of topics: from mitigation pathways and in-depth sectoral analysis to finance, international cooperation, net-zero and carbon dioxide removal… Let’s simplify that - Mitigation. This report lays out how we’re going to mitigate the effects of climate change. Because make no mistake, climate change is here and gaining speed. It’s up to us to listen to the scientists and follow their guidance to slow it down. So, here to guide us through this new report is Ko Barrett, Vice Chair, IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) and Senior Advisor for Climate, NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration). Ko is widely recognized as an expert on climate policy, particularly on issues related to climate impacts and strategies to help society adapt to a changing world. Not only was she one of the first women elected to serve as a vice chair of the IPCC in 2015, but she oversaw this latest report, gracefully and skillfully convening the global scientific consensus on this crucial report on Climate Change. An incredible achievement. This report informs business leaders, policy makers, activists, influencers, artists…everybody. Listen in to hear what makes this report unique, how to avoid doomism on climate, and what it’s going to take to get to a livable future.
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READ: WG3 AR6 IPCC Report
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Thanks to our guest this week, Ko Barrett!
Ko Barrett Vice Chair | IPCC Senior Advisor for Climate | NOAA
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14 Aug 2020 | 65. Hope, Rage and What We’re Going to Do About It with Jonathon Porritt and Lily Cole | 01:02:09 | |
This week! 2 Authors, 1 Crisis. Do we have a "Hope In Hell" to survive the climate crisis, or do we have "Reasons To Be Optimistic" in the face of it? We talk with longtime activist Jonathon Porritt and famous model and actress Lily Cole about their brand new books, and find out the role that both rage and hope play in pushing us to ask ourselves in light of the climate emergency, "What are you going to do about it?" --- Lily Cole's Book "Who Cares Wins": https://amzn.to/3gXdjNU Jonathon Porritt's Book "Hope In Hell": https://amzn.to/3kIjYxI --- Our musical guest this week is James Hersey! --- Join @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram --- Dont forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
27 Sep 2019 | 23. Innovating Breakthroughs with Sir Richard Branson | 00:45:47 | |
It's been a busy week at the UNGA! We signed The Climate Pledge with Jeff Bezos from Amazon, saw world leaders stepping up their climate ambition, heard Greta Thunberg's scathing speech, and even had time to fire up the ol' anti-echo machine. Later in the episode we catch a few minutes with Sir Richard Branson, the man behind Virgin. We get into the green innovations he is working on, and discuss his bigger vision on how airline travel becomes sustainable. | |||
17 Nov 2022 | 178. COP27: Why the Money Flow is Slow | 01:01:01 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson share their reflections on COP27. We also have music from South Africa’s Daily Maverick, featuring the brilliant vocalist, Anneli Kamfer. Tom is back from Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt, where he spent several days at COP27, the UN’s annual climate conference. The trio discusses whether the international commitment to contain global warming to 1.5°C一now that the target seems to be moving out of reach一is as robust as it should be. Is conference messaging, such as “[We are] resolved to pursue efforts,” as strong as it should be? Next, there’s good and bad news on “Loss and Damage.” This refers to the responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer countries suffering disproportionately from its consequences. Hear the breakdown and where the group stands on the progress of this critical issue. Other COP27 discussions cover balancing collective global action with internal political realities, strides in reversing deforestation, and Tom’s birthday! You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation!
Before we go to the music, hear our incredible ‘pass the mic’ segment where Zoe, our roving reporter, spent an afternoon capturing diverse voices from COP 27 delegates in the halls and corridors of the conference. Finally, we finish with our musical selection: “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction,” by the Daily Maverick, featuring the celebrated vocalist Anneli Kamfer.
Enjoy the show!
NOTES AND RESOURCES To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Explore more about COP27. It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective.
MUSIC Listen to the full track “20Twenties: Eve of Destruction” from the Daily Maverick featuring acclaimed vocalist, Anneli Kamfer. Learn more about the Daily Maverick and the Our Burning Planet initiative. Here’s a well-known version of Eve of Destruction, written by 19-year-old PF Sloan in 1965 and recorded soon after by Barry McGuire.
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01 Apr 2021 | BONUS: The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 2 | 00:46:43 | |
Welcome to Volume 2 of The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist!
Every week on the podcast we feature a musical artist who is thoughtful about the role of art and artists in the climate crisis. This week we bring you a collection of those artists in playlist form as an extended listening experience.
So without further ado, Vol. 2.
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The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist Vol. 2:
(0:59) James Hersey - My People Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(3:16) Mystery Jets - Wrong Side of The Tracks Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(7:07) Mesadorm - Easy
(11:15) Presidio - Clockout
(13:33) I See Rivers - We Don’t Get More Time Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(16:10) MF Tomlinson - Sum of Nothing Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(19:46) Beans on Toast - On and On Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(24:17) Gecko - End of The World Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(28:37) Desiree Dawson - Mountain Tops Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(31:21) Rhys Lewis - Better Than Today Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
(35:06) Alex Serra - Everything is Changing
(39:47) Saunder Jurriaans - Easy Now
(42:55) Emmanuel Jal - We Want Peace Twitter | Facebook | Instagram
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03 Apr 2020 | 46. Let's Get Ethical with Dr. Fatih Birol (COVID and Climate #2) | 00:54:53 | |
Week 2 of our series on emerging stronger and better equipped from the coronavirus is here! As many if not all national governments are rolling out stimulus packages to address the economic affects of COVID-19, why should economic stimulus packages be focused on the clean energy transition? Our interview this week is about the importance of ethics-based stimulus packages with Dr. Fatih Birol, Executive Director of the International Energy Agency. Also - Christiana and Paul hold the fort down while Tom is away working on his TED Talk and they discuss what new ways of living in the pandemic that should stick once we return to "business as usual." W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm | |||
23 Jan 2020 | 36. The Great Australian Inferno with Kevin Rudd | 00:53:52 | |
It's 2020! We're back! It's the "super year" for climate and the most consequential decade in human history! This week Tom and Christiana talk with former Prime Minister of Australia, Kevin Rudd. Kevin shows us the roots of why the Conservative Party in Australia and the Murdoch media empire are perpetuating a state of climate inaction, and why he's optimistic that the Australian fires are the turning point for humanity and our climate. "The Future We Choose" Pre-order now! | |||
18 May 2023 | 200. Lifelines VS Deadlines: The Need For Science Based Policy (Part One) | 01:22:46 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future.
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08 Nov 2021 | 128. COP26 Halfway Point: A City of Two Tales With Nigel Topping | 00:32:29 | |
It's the halfway point of the COP26 climate discussions in Glasgow, UK! Pledges over the past week from world leaders could be transformational, keeping the Paris Agreement's ambition in reach. The devil is in the detail of delivery and, As we head into the second week of the negotiations, government Ministers and negotiators get down to business, with final agreements due to land on Saturday this week. Momentum from the pledges of the past week reverberated around the world, yet the youth movement, alongside many of the most vulnerable nations showed how much further we have to go. On this episode we take stock with a great friend of the show, the UK's High Level Climate Action Champion, Nigel Topping. Start your week with our digest of what's happened and what needs to happen next. — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — WATCH: Livestream COP26 from anywhere — Nigel Topping Twitter | LinkedIn | Instagram — Race to Zero COP26 - UN Climate Change Conference Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn Don't forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! | |||
25 Mar 2021 | 94. The Risk of Living Under a White Sky with Elizabeth Kolbert | 00:58:53 | |
With CO2 in the atmosphere now reaching levels 50% higher than when humanity began large-scale burning of fossil fuels during the industrial revolution, time is running out and some ecosystems are on the brink of collapse. In light of this, some scientists and engineers are asking the question, can we act in time to save them? What do we do if we cannot reduce emissions in time? What tools will we have to save humanity? This week we talk to Elizabeth Kolbert, Pulitzer-Prize winning author, activist, The New Yorker journalist, about her latest book Under a White Sky, a fascinating work that is asking the big questions: having meddled so much in our natural ecosystems, are we now able to save them and ourselves from the devastating effects of climate change? What form will these interventions take? Are the proposals such a genetically modified coral or solar geoengineering even possible? Will our sky be white? Join us for a delightfully sobering conversation. And stick around later in the show for a musical performance from Saunder Jurriaans! — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! — Thank you to our guest this week, Elizabeth Kolbert!
Elizabeth Kolbert
In 2015, Elizabeth wrote a phenomenal article on Christiana in The New Yorker. Highly recommended reading!
Grab a copy of Elizabeth’s new book, Under a White Sky: The Nature of the Future!
Elizabeth is a Pulitzer-Prize winning author, and her books are available for purchase here:
— Our musical guest this week is Saunder Jurriaans! YouTube | Facebook | Instagram | Spotify
Check out Saunder Jurriaans’ debut album ‘Beasts’ — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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28 Jul 2023 | 211. You’ve Got Questions, We’ve Got Answers | 01:05:22 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. For the final episode of the season, Christiana, Tom and Paul answer many of your fantastic questions including: ‘We hear a lot of talk about planting trees to sequester carbon, but most of our planet is covered by ocean, and the ocean is absorbing most of the heat. Should we be doing more to plant and restore seaweed, seagrasses, and mangroves?’; ‘If anything would be possible and all of us would work together towards one goal - what would your ideal world look like?’ and “Are we gonna be OK?”’ Thank you so much to everyone who took the time to send through a question to our hosts, you made this a very special episode. Apologies if we weren’t able to get to yours, please do go and engage with us on social media and share your thoughts. Music this week comes from our very own fabulous host, Christiana Figueres, check out the video of her rap here. Feel free to spread the love!
We will welcome you back in September with a very exciting not-to-be-missed interview, followed by episodes sharing insights into New York Climate Week, COP and many more important events which will see us through to the end of the year.
NOTES AND RESOURCES
Christiana’s incredible rap video can be found here.
Adam McKay’s video can be found here. The song mentioned by Paul from Gracie Fields can be found here. Here is a link to the lawsuit against big oil companies by the city of San Francisco.
Learn more about the Paris Agreement.
It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective
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01 Oct 2024 | Trailer: How To Live A Good Life In A Climate Crisis | 00:01:15 | |
How to Live a Good Life in a Climate Crisis The Outrage + Optimism team are excited to bring you a series that confronts the big questions we ask ourselves whilst living in a climate crisis. Join hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett Carnac and Paul Dickinson as they grapple with issues like what we should eat, whether we should fly, and how to live with purpose and joy in these uncertain and overwhelming times. First and second episodes released on 3 October. | |||
10 Feb 2022 | 138. Just Look Up! with Adam McKay | 01:09:07 | |
Today, an earth-shattering comet of an episode as Christiana, Tom and Paul talk to the phenomenally talented Adam McKay about his 4 time Oscar nominated film Don’t Look Up! Writing and directing a comedy film about climate change is not a challenge for the faint hearted. Not only did Adam McKay take this challenge on, in doing so he created a tour-de-force which dominated global news feeds after its release, quickly took the position of 2nd most watched Netflix original and got EVERYONE talking about climate change. Listen as he describes his journey of growing climate awareness, how he doesn’t think he will produce another piece of work that ISN’T about climate change, and the breaking news that France will be hosting its own series of ‘Just Look Up’ days as a result of the film. The hosts are also super charged this week as they tackle the global energy crisis head on, taking us on a whistlestop tour of the major issues that are being played out against an ever increasingly tense geopolitical backdrop. Can gas ever be considered green? What are the implications of this crisis on a swift green energy transition and stability of net zero ambitions? We think you’ll agree, we really did have it all this week didn’t we? And! Stick around til the end because playing us out this week is the incredibly talented Sibusile Xaba with his single ‘Angisenalutho’.
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JOIN: Don’t Look Up’s Count Us In Initiative! (And bring a friend!) READ: What if Climate Change Were Like a Comet? By Emily Atkin of HEATED WATCH: Rowanbank’s Positive Imaginings Films LISTEN: The Last Podcast Ever Made: A Don’t Look Up Podcast
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Thanks to our guest this week, Adam McKay!
Adam McKay Writer | Director | Producer
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The fantastic Sibusile Xaba is this week’s musical guest!
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25 Jun 2021 | BONUS: The Stubborn Optimist's Playlist Vol. 3 | 00:42:17 | |
Welcome to Volume 3 of The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist!
Every week on the podcast we feature a musical artist who is thoughtful about the role of art and artists in the climate crisis and this week, we bring you a collection of those artists in playlist form as an extended listening experience.
Enjoy the music!
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The Stubborn Optimist’s Playlist Vol. 3:
(1:28) Aaron Frazer - Bad News Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube | Spotify
(5:17) Alfred Nomad - Speaking
(6:10) Alfred Nomad - Justice Spotify | Bandcamp | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook
(8:50) Mel Chante - Air Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website | Youtube
(11:56) Asher Monroe - Speaking
(12:35) Asher Monroe - Midnight Masquerade Spotify | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website
(15:53) Milky Chance - We Didn’t Make It To The Moon Twitter | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube
(19:20) Guster - Satellite Spotify | Apple Music | Instagram | Twitter | Facebook | Website
(23:52) Marie Spaemann - Circles Instagram | Facebook | Website | YouTube
(29:42) Vivii - Speaking
(31:11) Vivii - One Day Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | Soundcloud
(35:03) Eliza Shaddad - Blossom Our musical guest this week is Eliza Shaddad! Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Spotify | Apple Music | YouTube
(38:15) Easy Wanderlings - Dream To Keep Us Going Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | Website
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21 Jul 2022 | 165. Moral Imagination, Patient Capital and Averting Collective Climate Suicide with Jacqueline Novogratz | 01:07:25 | |
Crippling heat, fire, and death in the U.K., Europe, and the U.S. are bringing the climate emergency to our literal doorsteps. At the same time, political antipathy一in the lack of climate depth among Britain’s leadership candidates or the collapse of sweeping climate legislation in the U.S., for example一seems to be adding fuel to the fire. Co-hosts Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson, and especially Christiana Figueres, are outraged! They explore what this means for the climate agenda going forward and, of course, how compassion, inclusion, and optimism must be part of the solution. Will deaths in the streets of Madrid and 40+°C (102°F) temps in the alleys of London compel us to wake up and see what’s happening? Next, how do we use the tools of capitalism without being controlled by them? In this segment the gang explores the differences between traditional and enlightened capital and their connections to poverty, moral imagination, and climate – joined by visionary entrepreneur, philanthropist, and best-selling author Jacqueline Novogratz. Novogratz, described by Forbes as one of the World’s 100 Greatest Living Business Minds (2017), is the head of the global nonprofit impact investment fund Acumen. Novogratz explains, “What is the problem we’re here to solve, and how do we use the tools we have to solve them? Investment has always been [one of those] tools…but we see investment as a means, not as an end in itself.” Listen in as they deconstruct patient capital, off-grid solar, outrage over ongoing divisiveness, and how moral imagination as corporate strategy might just work a little magic for the future.
NOTES AND RESOURCES
Check out more of Gabrielle Sey’s Music here, and be sure to spin her cut of “Patterns” and add it to your summer playlist! Learn more about Acumen and its inspirational founder, Jacqueline Novogratz. You Can buy Novogratz’s 2020 work “Manifesto for a Moral Revolution: Practices to Build a Better World” here, or in the US, here. You can buy Novogratz’s bestseller, “The Blue Sweater: Bridging the Gap between Rich and Poor,” here, or in the US, here. To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. | |||
04 May 2024 | 244. Movies, Mosses, and Stories to Change The World | 00:50:19 | |
This week, Tom and Christiana are in Seattle recording in the Amazon studio where they are joined by special guest Kara Hurst, Chief Sustainability Officer at Amazon. Together they bring you an eclectic mix of topics of outrage and optimism ranging from the introduction of the Bechdel test for climate change, storytelling with the national geographic and mosses! The nature sounds that close the podcast come from One Square Inch located in the Hoh Rain Forest at Olympic National Park. Thanks goes to Quiet Parks International for allowing us to use the audio of this oasis of calm and quiet. We hope you enjoy it as much as we do!
NOTES AND RESOURCES
GUEST Kara Hurst, Chief Sustainability Officer at Amazon
MUSIC / SOUND Gordon Hempton, Bioacoustician and Co-Founder of Quiet Parks International Instagram | Twitter (X) | Facebook
Check out the full recording and more at One Square Inch.
Learn more about the Paris Agreement.
It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective
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28 Nov 2019 | 32. Closing the Emissions Gap with Patricia Espinosa | 00:38:01 | |
After a devastating UNEP Emissions Gap report details how governments are not doing enough to meet the 1.5C Paris Agreement target, Tom and Paul ask the question, "Can we still do this?" Later, Christiana joins her successor at the UNFCCC, Executive Secretary Patricia Espinosa, for the scoop on what we should expect out of COP25 beginning Monday in Madrid. "The Future We Choose" Pre-sales are available now! | |||
28 Oct 2021 | 123. Ramping Up for COP26! with Matthew Phillips | 00:43:55 | |
If you haven’t heard, COP26 is about to happen. This week we embrace the complexity that is a COP (Conference of the Parties), and try to frame what is going to happen in the next 2 weeks so we don’t lose focus on limiting global heating to 1.5C. We’re joined by Communications Director of COP25 & COP26 Climate Champions, Matthew Phillips. Matthew is inextricably linked with the process of COP26 and shares his wisdom and unique insight into what a successful COP26 looks like. So if you’re thinking about the logistical nightmares of COP26, what the Heads of State might say, how NDCs are going, or how inequities are being addressed at the COP this year, this conversation is for you. Stay til the end for a beautiful soundscape of children’s voices from Positive Imaginings. Enjoy!
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Links Mentioned in the Show:
WATCH: TED Countdown
Learn More: Rowanbank Environmental & Arts Education
LISTEN: Positive Imaginings Children’s Soundscape
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Thank you to our Guest Co-host this week!
Matthew Phillips Communications Director | Climate Champions
High Level Climate Champions
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18 Feb 2021 | 89. The Ministry for the Future with Kim Stanley Robinson | 01:10:15 | |
On Friday, The United States will officially be back in the Paris Climate Agreement! *cue appropriate volume of fanfare* And while in a week where Dallas, Texas is colder than Anchorage, Alaska - our co-host Paul Dickinson takes us on a short list of topics discussing the social cost of carbon recently updated by Joseph Stiglitz and Lord Nicholas Stern to match the severity of the climate crisis, as well as a listener question regarding the unregulated growth and steadily growing emissions of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. But all of this in context, with the US “still in” as it’s being promoted - We anxiously await the United States’ Nationally Determined Contribution which should be announced anytime between now and late April. Once that number comes through, the race to COP 26 will be at full speed where the very first 5 year check in of global accountability and ambition towards a net-zero 2050 and beyond will happen. So with the world’s largest economy on track to boost the global coalition of nations dedicated to this collective goal, will we be able to achieve emission reductions fast enough to avoid catastrophe? This week our guest is legendary science fiction writer, Kim Stanley Robinson, whose prolific career includes the international bestselling Mars trilogy, and more recently Red Moon, New York 2140, Aurora, Shaman, Green Earth, and 2312. Stan joins us for an exclusive look into the themes of his latest book: The Ministry for the Future, which offers an unflinching look at what our future may hold even in 2025 if we do not address runaway climate change. Optimistically he says, “We are all living in a science fiction novel we are coauthoring together.” So, what future will we write? Sci-Fi Pop Music this week from French duo, Toukan Toukän! — Thank you to our guest this week, Kim Stanley Robinson. Grab a copy of his latest book - ‘The Ministry For The Future’ Facebook | Twitter (Unofficial) — Our musical guest this week is Toukan Toukän! Music video for ‘Konowoulen’ Facebook | Instagram | YouTube | Website — Keep up with Christiana Figueres here: — Tom Rivett-Carnac: Instagram | Twitter | LinkedIn — Paul Dickinson is on LinkedIn! — Follow @GlobalOptimism on social media and send us a message! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn
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06 Jun 2024 | 249. US Elections: Could Trump Surprise Us On Climate? | 00:46:55 | |
This week’s episode kicks off with Tom and Paul discussing the critical events shaping global democracy over the last week including Trump’s convictions, the first head to head debate between Rishi Sunak and Keir Starmer ahead of the July 4th UK elections and Modi’s unexpected election result. They provide thoughtful analysis of the question: how much is climate change impacting these global democratic events? We also feature a brilliant conversation Christiana had with Ian Bremmer, President and Founder of Eurasia Group and GZERO Media where they discuss Trump and what his possible re-election could mean for climate action. Could a second Trump administration surprise us on climate?
NOTES AND RESOURCES
GUEST Ian Bremmer, President and Founder of Eurasia Group and GZERO Media LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter (X)
Learn more about the Paris Agreement.
It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective
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26 Jun 2024 | Presenting: 'We Are The Great Turning' | 00:31:41 | |
This week, something unique for our listeners from the podcast 'We Are The Great Turning'. As Joanna Macy approaches the end of a long life dedicated to healing our imperiled planet, she begins the conversation with Jessica Serrante, her student and dear friend, “standing afresh with what it’s like to live on Earth at this moment.” As we look into the face of the climate crisis, injustice, and war, difficult feelings arise; all are welcomed. You are invited to join them at Joanna’s kitchen table, and invited into a deeper sense of your belonging and love for our world.
In this episode:
We recommend starting a podcast club with friends or family to do these practices together. Links and assets to help prompt reflection and build community can be found with every episode on WeAreTheGreatTurning.com.
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10 Nov 2022 | 176. COP27: Loss and Damage in the Spotlight | 01:14:12 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. First up we have some exclusive news... *drumroll*... We are excited to announce that Outrage + Optimism is now part of the TED Audio Collective! This news represents an exciting continuation of the collaboration between our organizations, which began with our strategic partnership with TED Countdown. The TED Audio Collective is a curated collection of podcasts sharing ideas on a range of subjects, including psychology, business, and design. Be sure to check out some of the other podcasts in the collective! Back to this special COP 27 episode... co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Paul Dickinson talk long-distance with co-host Tom Rivett-Carnac, who’s on the ground at the COP27 UN climate conference in Sharm El Sheikh, Egypt. Also, Christiana interviews Simon Stiell, the latest Executive Secretary of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC), and the podcast announces a new partnership with TED Audio Collective. First, Tom calls in from COP27, where the top item on the agenda is “Loss and Damage,” which refers to the historical responsibility of industrialized nations for the climate crisis and the moral case for compensating poorer and developing countries suffering the brunt of its many devastating effects. What is fair, really? Next, Christiana discusses getting things done, accountability, and the power of meditation with UNFCCC Secretary Simon Stiell. They expand on COP27 and the role of oil and gas companies in the conference. You won’t want to miss this engaging conversation. The team closes with their reflections on the midterm elections in the United States (votes are still being counted) and what a divided Congress means for President Biden’s climate agenda. And finally, producer Clay brings us the goods on O+O’s new partnership with the TED Audio Collective and today’s tune from British guitar-goddess and artist, Anna Calvi: “Don’t Beat the Girl Out of My Boy.” Enjoy the show!
NOTES AND RESOURCES To learn more about our planet’s climate emergency and how you can transform outrage into optimistic action subscribe to the podcast here. Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE Also, explore more about COP27 It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast - Proof! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Want to join our Book Club? Read Jon Alexander’s ‘CITIZENS’ and email your question from the book to contact@globaloptimism.com to be invited to an invite-only session with Jon and us! Go listen to Abigael Kima’s coverage of COP27 on the Hali Hewa Podcast
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04 Feb 2021 | 87. The Future of Urban Transport | 01:08:30 | |
This is our fourth and final episode of an Outrage + Optimism investigative series on The Future of Transport. In 2019, UN Secretary General stated that “cities are where the climate battle will largely be won or lost” and he couldn’t be more right. With seven out of ten people expected to live in urban areas by 2050, and cities currently consuming ⅔ of the world’s energy, the need to transition off of fossil fuel based urban transport has never been more urgent. But how do we solve deadly air pollution, traffic congestion, overcrowding while securing racial justice and a just transition for marginalized communities? The answer might surprise you. From flying taxis and high speed pods, to better bus routes and bike lanes, the urban transport solutions of the future look as unique and varied as the cities they might one day serve. The future of sustainable cities will mean that billions of citizens can safely get around and enjoy healthy, equitable lives in our urban spaces. From Sao Paulo to London, Montreal to Kampala, Our hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson speak to transport planners, pioneers and professors, all rising to the challenge of creating more sustainable cities.
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Kevin Manaugh: Associate professor in the Department of Geography and The Bieler School of Environment at McGill University Twitter | LinkedIn | Twitter (McGill)
Pia Heidenmark Cook: Chief Sustainability Officer, Ingka Group Twitter | LinkedIn | Twitter (IKEA)
Robin Chase: Co-founder of Zipcar, Veniam, NUMO Twitter | LinkedIn | Twitter (NUMO)
Claire Birungi: Institute for Transportation & Development Policy, Country Manager, Uganda Twitter (ITDPA) | Facebook (ITDPA) | Instagram (ITDPA)
Sergio Avelleda: Urban Mobility Director at the World Resources Institute Ross Center For Sustainable Cities LinkedIn | Twitter (WRI) | Facebook (WRI) | LinkedIn (WRI)
Jay Walder: CEO Virgin Hyperloop LinkedIn | Twitter (VH) | Facebook (VH) | LinkedIn (VH) | Instagram (VH) | YouTube (VH)
Florian Reuter: CEO Volocopter LinkedIn | Facebook (Volo) | Instagram (Volo) | Twitter (Volo) | LinkedIn (Volo)
Shirley Rodrigues: London’s Deputy Mayor for Environment and Energy Twitter | Twitter (LDN) | LinkedIn
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24 Sep 2021 | 117. The Seeds Are Sown for a Food Revolution with Agnes Kalibata | 00:28:24 | |
Following the success of UN Food Systems Summit, or as it’s also known- “The People’s Summit” we get a chance to speak to the driving force behind it, UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy for the Food Systems Summit, Agnes Kalibata. Formerly Rwanda’s Minister of Agriculture and Animal Resources (MINAGRI) from 2008 to 2014, she drove programs that moved her country to food security helping to lift more than a million Rwandans out of poverty. Now as Special Envoy, her efforts toward progress of the delivery of the SDGs, and to prioritise Food Systems in the global conversation around climate change are coming to a 2 year culmination. Besides this summit being the first time the UN has called a summit dedicated to food systems, it is engaging more than 100,000 people from 147 countries through 900 independent multi-stakeholder dialogues on food system transformation. UN Summits are often mostly prepared statements by member states. This move to put people and dialogue at the center was a radical return to destroying our siloed thinking when it comes to global issues. The Food Revolution begins with a Thought Revolution, and people are at the heart of systemic change.
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Dr Agnes Kalibata UN Secretary-General’s Special Envoy | 2021 Food Systems Summit
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06 Dec 2019 | 33. The Green Belt Movement with Wanjira Mathai | 00:40:55 | |
This week we have an inspiring conversation with Wanjira Mathai as she talks about The Green Belt Movement, the interconnection of sustainability, and how to combat corruption & greed. We discuss the announcement by the European Investment Bank to stop funding fossil fuels, how psychology professionals plan to work on climate change, and Paul takes us on his trip to the Magic Kingdom. "The Future We Choose" Pre-sales are available now. | |||
01 Dec 2022 | 181. A U.S. Special: Making The Irresistible Irreversible! | 01:17:00 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres and Tom Rivett-Carnac go deep into U.S. domestic energy policy with guests U.S. Secretary of Energy Jennifer M. Granholm and White House Deputy National Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi. First up, the critical topic of energy justice: Granholm updates the team on the Justice40 Initiative, in which an unprecedented 40 percent of federal energy investments are earmarked for disadvantaged and historically underserved communities that are overburdened by pollution. The plans, which seek to reckon with deep-seated inequities, are ambitious, exciting, and groundbreaking. Speaking of action, Tom and Christiana’s next guest is optimist and White House Climate Advisor Ali Zaidi. He contends the U.S. is on a positive linear trajectory and accelerating exponentiallyーnot just in clean energy or emissions reduction but in terms of the political economy backing these actions. Get the scoop on how federal agencies and departments are pushing forward together. We finish the episode with the beautiful track “Until the Day” by Los Angeles-based singer-songwriter BEL. Additional details are included in the show notes below.
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Find out more about the Justice40 Initiative Ali Zaidi, White House Deputy National Climate Advisor Learn about the National Climate Task Force
Here’s more on the Inflation Reduction Act 2022 and the 2022 Budget Resolution And Reconciliation: How We Will Build Back Better legislation
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27 Oct 2021 | 122. What The Hale?! Introducing the Net Zero Tracker with Thomas Hale | 00:28:05 | |
Tom Hale is BACK and here to announce the official Launch of the Net Zero Tracker! So yes - this week we have Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University, Tom Hale, who joined us back in March of this year discussing the launch of a report “Taking Stock of commitments to Net Zero”. That report put a spotlight on the credibility of a wave of government and business net zero commitments at the time. He is now returning more triumphant than ever with a significant update - The launch of a publicly available Net Zero Tracker! It’s a big deal. Our host, Paul Dickinson jumps in to ask, What the Hale IS the Net Zero Tracker? And how is it creating radical transparency that will lead to actually limiting global heating to 1.5C? In tandem with the Net Zero Tracker is a new release as well, The Net Zero Dashboard Codebook - Filled with terms to bring absolute clarity to Net Zero pledges, promises, and commitments...so what the Hale do all these terms mean? Stick around for our classic Lightning Round. The Race to Zero continues!
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Oxford English Dictionary Climate Words Added NYT Visualization of Emissions Pre-Paris vs Current vs Pledged vs Necessary for 1.5C
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Thomas Hale Associate Professor in Global Public Policy at Oxford University
Blavatnik School of Government
Net Zero Tracker
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16 Nov 2022 | 177. Future of Food: Live from COP27 | 00:43:28 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue on building a sustainable future. In this special episode we bring you the conclusion of our celebrated Future of Food series, recorded live from COP 27. Outrage + Optimism host Tom Rivett-Carnac pulls together an incredible line up of leaders to explore how food might act as the connecting force that engages communities and individuals and brings us all together in a united global movement. First, Tom takes the opportunity to catch up Per Heggenes, the CEO of The IKEA Foundation, to hear why food is of huge importance to his organisation's work and why Per believes food needs to stay top of the global agenda. Next, Tom convenes a fascinating and diverse group of guests in a unique and quirky setting: a blue shipping container repurposed in collaboration with Museum for the United Nations UN Live team and The IKEA Foundation using Global We portals, to bring the voices of people on the frontline of climate change, directly into the heart of climate conversations at COP27 via full length screens, set up in diverse global locations. Listen to the fascinating contributions from Tom's IRL guests Paul Polman, Business Leader, Former CEO of Unilever and co-author of Net Positive; Liesbet Steer, Executive Director of the Education Commission; and Sophia Kianni climate activist, Executive Director of Climate Cardinals and the youngest member on the United Nations Secretary-General's Youth Advisory Group on Climate Change; and our Global We portal leaders from Kigali Sarah Kenkuyu, Program Manager at GiveDirectly Rwanda; Kristian Gasaro, activist, Greenpreneur and photographer; and Tanignigui Siriki Soro, a writer and community leader from the Ivory Coast. The resulting conversation is as diverse and as fascinating as our guests themselves.
Enjoy the show!
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The IKEA Foundation Website | Twitter | LinkedIn | Facebook | Instagram | YouTube Museum for the United Nations Website | Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn GUESTS: Per Heggenes Twitter | Paul Polman LinkedIn | Website | Twitter | Liesbet Steer The Education Commission Sophia Kianni LinkedIn | Twitter | Instagram | Facebook Sarah Kenkuyu GiveDirectly LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook | Instagram Kristian Gasaro Tanignigui Siriki Soro Want to participate in the COP27 Civic Imagination Lab? REGISTER HERE Also, explore more about COP27 It’s official, we’re a TED Audio Collective Podcast! Check out more podcasts from The TED Audio Collective Go listen to Abigael Kima’s coverage of COP27 on the Hali Hewa Podcast Click through to listen to more of our episodes on The Future of Food | |||
15 May 2020 | 52. Jane Fonda Has Been Getting Arrested | 01:16:30 | |
This week on the podcast we get outraged at the logical fallacies that comprise Michael Moore's new film, "Planet of The Humans" and we call up Jonathan Koomey, Climate Energy Expert from Stanford University to give us an objective look into the claims of this film. In our main interview, we sit down with Jane Fonda. Recipient of various accolades including two Academy Awards, two BAFTA Awards, seven Golden Globe Awards, a Primetime Emmy Award, the AFI Life Achievement Award, and the Honorary Golden Lion...need we go on? She tells us about the transformative experience of civil disobedience, and how celebrities have a unique opportunity to be "repeaters" as she calls it, to send the message on climate all across the world. Come join the conversation on social media! --- W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm | |||
06 Jan 2021 | BONUS: A Great Regeneration with Andrew Higham and Mission 2020 | 00:41:29 | |
A special bonus episode for a little inspiration as 2021 begins! Christiana Figueres and the Outrage + Optimism gang chat with Andrew Higham, Chief Executive of Mission 2020 as its mission comes to a close. Mission 2020 was born out of the Paris Agreement to harness the momentum it brought about to ensure the urgency of the global climate conversation would be followed up by ambitious and daring action. Despite the coronavirus pandemic, 2020 did mark a turning point in tackling the climate crisis, with unprecedented commitment to achieving net zero emissions by 2050 at the latest, from governments, countries, regions, companies, investors and citizens. Now that 2020 has come and gone, what needs to happen next? Through consultation with hundreds of climate leaders from the grassroots to the highest levels and from all around the world, we chat with M2020 about the underlying principles of the “Prelude to A Great Regeneration” which sets a vision for the remaining nine years of this Decisive Decade. By 2030 we have to cut greenhouse gas emissions globally by at least 50% and actively restore our natural world. Woven through the rich visions, it is our hopes and dreams for the future, and a common desire for something altogether new to emerge from this moment: a world that is kinder, braver, more equal and more just.
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25 Apr 2019 | 1. The Power of Outrage and Optimism with David Attenborough | 00:44:51 | |
In this first episode, Christiana, Tom and Paul discuss why both outrage and optimism are needed to confront the issues of our time. Following on from this, Christiana and Tom have a discussion with David Attenborough about the school strikes, his career, and how we can use outrage to change the world. | |||
15 Sep 2022 | 167. We Like To Call It Piñata Syndrome | 01:11:44 | |
Welcome back to a brand new season of Outrage + Optimism! We have missed you, friends! This summer break in the Global North was yet another massive climate summer with much to talk about. We kick off this jam-packed episode acknowledging the sad passing of Queen Elizabeth II with personal reflections from the hosts Christiana, Tom and Paul as well as a touching conversation with Henry Dallal, a photographer who was regularly commissioned to capture Queen Elizabeth during the last few decades of her reign. Christiana offers us a unique insight from Gastech, the world's largest gas, LNG, hydrogen, and energy event that saw lone-climate-advocate Christiana deliver a strong speech to 40,000 executives on their role and moral duty to tackle emissions in their industry. A speech that is not to be missed and you can watch the full version here. The hosts turn their attention to the key events of the summer that offered the global community both hope and sorrow as the world watched with keen optimism as the implications of Biden’s IRA legislation unfolded, Australia successfully passed a key climate bill through government, and India, Australia and Egypt submitted new NDCs ahead of UNGA and COP 27. With heavy hearts however Christiana, Tom and Paul considered the devastating impact of the Pakistan floods that left a third of the country under water, mass crop failure, many lives lost including children, and vital infrastructure destroyed. The very real impacts of climate change are already hitting so many people in the global south, that issues of loss and damage and financial aid from the global north must surely form part of the discussions between world leaders in this year’s big climate events. We will of course be here throughout the rest of the season with the help of our very special guests, to bring you all the insights and analysis from these big events.
Notes and Resources
Thank you to our phone guest this week, Henry Dallal!
Henry Dallal | Photographer
Be sure to check out Henry Dallal’s Book, ‘Addressing Climate Change’
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Thank you to our musical guest this week, Gabriela Eva!
Gabriela Eva Instagram | Music | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter | Dot Com
Check out Gabriela’s lyric video for ‘Pulling Faces In The Wind’ Be sure to spin ‘Feng Shui’ this weekend!
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There’s a solar-powered boombox in a park in Queens, NYC that plays LL Cool J’s music from noon to 5p every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and yes it’s 100% real.
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15 Jun 2023 | 204. LIVE Q+A on Lifelines VS Deadlines | 00:51:30 | |
Welcome to another episode of Outrage + Optimism, where we examine issues at the forefront of the climate crisis, interview change-makers, and transform our anger into productive dialogue about building a sustainable future. This week we are excited to share our Live Lifelines vs Deadlines Q&A session packed with brilliant questions from some of our listeners! Alongside our regular hosts, we welcomed back the fabulous Fiona Macklin and Dylan Tanner co-hosts of the original mini-series with Paul Dickinson, and were thrilled to once again offer O+O listeners the chance to peek behind the curtain on our live recording. Listen to the episode to find out how our hosts feel about what place the oil and gas companies should have at COP28, and should they be there at all? And is it time for the climate movement to unite around one single issue, and what should that be? We close this week's episode by sharing an inspiring video which shows the moment 200 South African firefighters landed in Canada to help fight the wildfires.
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Fiona Macklin, Senior Adviser, Groundswell at Global Optimism
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16 Sep 2021 | 114. 30x30: Nature Needs More with Rita El Zaghloul | 00:37:01 | |
Today, only 15 percent of land and 7 percent of our ocean are protected. Nature needs more. The science is very clear – to prevent a mass extinction crisis, support a growing global population, and address climate change, we must conserve at least 30% of the planet by 2030. ...So why now? The science is very, very clear - If we act now we can limit the disaster, and we could even reverse the trends of climate change in an equitable, just fashion. But how? This week we’re joined by Rita El Zaghloul, Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica. She is the driving force behind ambition at The HAC’s 30x30 campaign, slamming the pedal to the metal on their aim to agree to this plan at the COP15 Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) in October. The best part about it? It centers indigenous leadership and indigenous rights, while mobilizing financial resources both publicly and privately to ensure protected areas are properly managed, all the while protecting at least 30% of the planet by 2030; We know our situation is dire. But we also know it’s going to take everything (aka Nature) and everyone (aka People) to keep us below 1.5 degrees. The HAC’s 30x30 campaign is one of the roadmaps there. Nature is counting on us. What future will we choose? — Christiana + Tom’s book ‘The Future We Choose’ is available now! Subscribe to our Climate Action Newsletter: Signals Amidst The Noise — Our Guest This Week: Rita El Zaghloul Coordinator of the High Ambition Coalition for Nature & People on behalf of Costa Rica
High Ambition Coalition (HAC) for Nature & People — Musical Guest This week: Mr Bruce
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06 Jun 2022 | 157. Presenting: ‘Who Cares Wins’ with Lily Cole and Christiana Figueres | 00:45:59 | |
Today, a special bonus episode in your feed from British model, actress, climate activist and podcaster, Lily Cole. In this episode of ‘Who Cares Wins’, Host Lily Cole interviews Christiana Figueres on how to maintain daily optimism, why more women in leadership will deliver a better world, and how systemic change and a livable future can begin with me and you.
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30 Jun 2022 | 161. The Power of Disclosure with CDP’s Paul Simpson | 00:57:22 | |
This week, our hosts Tom Rivett-Carnac and Paul Dickinson sit down for an exclusive interview with Paul Simpson as he exits his role as CEO of CDP after co-founding the organization over 20 years ago. CDP began in a basement with a few committed individuals to bring about a livable future through the disclosing of environmental data from companies around the globe. While it may have had humble beginnings from a small basement office and only a few employees in 2000, today CDP reports directly on current disclosures that cover over 13,000 companies covering around 64% of global market capitalization. So as Paul Simpson wraps up his last few hours on the job, we look back into the roller coaster ride of how CDP discovered that disclosure of information was a latent power that existed in the world, and how they transformed it into a positive force moving both business and government towards a Paris-Aligned trajectory. And of course it’s just not our podcast without some amazing music, so this week we have the rootsy band Our Man In The Field with an intimate performance of their single, ‘Thin (I Used To Be Bullet Proof)’.
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14 Apr 2022 | 149. Presenting: ‘The Way Out Is In’ with Christiana Figueres | 01:54:48 | |
As many around the world turn inward this week, we bring you a special episode featuring Christiana Figueres from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast. Many of us are looking for a way out of the crises we face. Climate, biodiversity, ecological, nature, health, wealth inequality…not to mention the deeply personal, familial, and interpersonal. A quick log in to twitter, checking the news, or reading the latest IPCC report reveals to us that we are on a path towards breakdown. We know there is a pathway out of this ‘atlas of human suffering’ as United Nations Secretary-General António Guterres recently said, but how do we chart that path? This week, we suggest that the way out of suffering is in it. Today we are sharing an episode from ‘The Way Out Is In’ podcast, produced by Plum Village, the Buddhist Monastery founded by the Late Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh. Thich Nhat Hanh and his teachings were a vital support to Christiana in the lead up to the Paris Agreement and beyond. In this episode, you’ll hear co-hosts Jo Confino and Brother Pháp Hữu invite Christiana on to share deeply about what brought her to Plum Village, both now and years ago during her first encounter with Thich Nhat Hanh; her journey to a spiritual practice that helped her overcome a personal crisis, and the transformative power of practices such as ‘deep listening’ and ‘interbeing’ on the negotiation process of The Paris Agreement. So get comfortable, settle in, and join us for a special listen to Episode #21 of ‘The Way Out Is In’ - Being the Change We Want to See in the World: A Conversation with Christiana Figueres [Content warning: This episode includes mentions of suicidal thoughts at 00:25:00 for approximately two minutes – listeners who could find this discussion distressing may wish to skip this section.]
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Next ‘The Way Out Is In’ Recommended Episodes To Listen To: Zen and The Art of Saving The Planet Wise Leadership w/ Lindsay Levin WATCH: ‘A Cloud Never Dies’ on YouTube READ: ‘Zen and The Art of Saving the Planet’ by Thich Nhat Hanh DOWNLOAD: The Plum Village App
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15 Jul 2022 | 164. The Supreme Court's EPA Ruling: Is the Crisis of Climate a Crisis of Democracy? | 01:12:16 | |
With the US Supreme Court's ruling on the EPA still sending shockwaves through some quarters of the climate community, we ask in our second special episode this week: is this a sign that the tide is turning against environmental regulation, or should we be careful not to mistake the tide for the current? In this episode, co-hosts Christiana Figueres, Tom Rivett-Carnac, and Paul Dickinson take leave of UK politics (in the most part) and take a look across the ‘puddle’ at what many have described as the devastating ruling delivered by the US Supreme Court on the EPA’s power to regulate green house gas emissions. We hear from two very special guests, Gina McCarthy former EPA administrator and now the first National Climate Advisor to the White House, and John Podesta, the founder and chair of the Board of Directors for the Center for American Progress, and former counselor to President Barack Obama.
NOTES AND RESOURCES Have you enjoyed listening to this new format of Outrage + Optimism? We have had great fun making these last two episodes so as Tom suggests in the show, let us know what you think by dropping us an email at contact@globaloptimism.com.
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22 May 2020 | 53. The Power of Nature with Tom Crowther | 01:15:19 | |
It's International Biodiversity Day and we're celebrating in style! We talk with Prof. Dr. Tom Crowther of Crowther Lab, ETH Zürich, who captured the imagination of the world with the idea that our world could support another trillion trees, and how that could restore a new world through carbon drawdown, create a better world with more biodiversity, provide the roadmap to a regenerated world which right now we can only dream of. His research has galvanized many to begin restoration efforts, including the least likely of suspects, Donald J. Trump. What do you do when a climate denier supports your work on climate change? Tom Crowther answers in this episode. We also discuss the four principles Nature-Based Solutions which, among all the emerging guidelines and standards, are critical for successful restoration and conservation, avoiding "green-washing" of solutions that cover up escalating emissions. After the interview, Christiana and Clay spring a guess-that-animal-sound game on the rest of the Outrage and Optimism team and one particular host refuses to lose. Come say hello to us online! --- W.H.O. COVID-19 Safety Guidelines: https://bit.ly/3di7SYm | |||
04 Jun 2021 | BONUS: Richard Curtis, Amina Mohammed, Mark Carney, Christiana Figueres and More On Making Your Pension Clean Up | 00:44:39 | |
This week, a bonus! Our own Christiana Figueres spoke at the Net Zero Pensions Summit, hosted by Richard Curtis, the famous filmmaker and co-founder of Make My Money Matter, an organization elevating the voices of citizens to demand that pension funds invest in line with the values of their members. In this episode you’ll hear from: Richard Curtis Filmmaker | Co-Founder of Make My Money Matter
Alok Sharma MP COP26 President Designate
Mary Robinson Chair of The Elders | Former President of Ireland | Former UN High Commissioner for Human Rights
Amina Mohammed Deputy Secretary-General of the United Nations
Nigel Topping High-Level Climate Action Champion for COP26
Mark Carney UN Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance
This bonus episode gives you a flavour of the Net Zero Pensions Summit, and we hope it will propel you to take a step and logging it on CountUsIn.org.
Enjoy!
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As an individual, join the movement demanding Net Zero Pensions here: https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/net-zero/
If you can represent a business, be a Net Zero Hero and please sign the Green Pensions Charter here: https://makemymoneymatter.co.uk/charter/
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24 Jul 2020 | 62. Taking Dirty Energy To Court with James Thornton and Dr. Tara Shine | 01:18:22 | |
Since the adoption of the Paris Agreement, legal systems around the world are beginning to witness the power of citizens, organizations, and businesses fighting legal battles to protect Earth. But who's side is the law on? This week we talk about how the tides have turned in favor of Earth in court with CEO of ClientEarth, James Thornton. We hear about how ClientEarth is mending the relationship between humanity and the Earth through the law, and James shares some amazing news from China regarding citizens being able to sue the Chinese government in environmental cases. Stick around for the amazing story of how €30 shut down a coal mine. And our special guest co-host this week is Dr. Tara Shine. Science and policy adviser, explorer, tv presenter, and author (to name a few), Tara joins us to discuss the intersection of human rights and environmental rights, and intros us to her exhaustibly-researched-yet-incredibly-practical book, 'How To Save Your Planet One Object At A Time'. --- James Thornton's Organization, ClientEarth: https://www.clientearth.org Follow ClientEarth on Twitter and Facebook --- Stream ‘A Billion Heartbeats’ by Mystery Jets: https://spoti.fi/30Dn3WM Listen To Mystery Jets Podcast: https://bit.ly/2CJBAZ1 This week's music is brought to you in partnership with SoFar Sounds. See live performances and learn more about supporting artists at: https://www.sofarsounds.com --- Check out Dr. Tara Shine's book - 'How To Save Your Planet One Object At A Time': https://amzn.to/30I1y79 --- Join @GlobalOptimism on social media! Facebook | Twitter | Instagram --- Dont forget to hit SUBSCRIBE so you don't miss another episode of Outrage + Optimism! |