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A couple weeks ago we covered school lunches for our adult listeners, but this week we let the kids take over! Time for Lunch is HRN's first-ever kids' show, and this episode is all about going back to school. 

What do kids in Japan have for lunch at school? When in history were school lunches first served? Do you like to have pizza on Fridays? It’s that time of year where kids all around the world are going back to school! No matter what school looks like for you this year, chances are that lunchtime is still an important part of your day. This week on Time For Lunch, Hannah and Harry talk to friends all around the world about what their lunches look like now that we’re back in school. School lunch expert, Andrea Strong tells about her dreams for NYC’s public school lunches and we learn a tasty Japanese lunchtime treat. 

If you’d like to hear your voice on the show, ask a grownup to help you record yourself using the voice memo app on an iPhone and email your questions, jokes, and recipes to timeforlunchpodcast@gmail.com. 

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Behind a great meal is often a well crafted recipe. This week on Meat + Three we are opening up the cookbook to explore how foodways are preserved through text. We talk to librarians, YouTubers, cooks, publishers, about the history of cookbooks and the state of the cookbook publishing industry today. From Black cookbooks to an artist’s reimagining of a community cookbook in Maine, we are reading widely. If you can’t get your nose out of the cookbook, this week is for you!  

Further Reading:

You can check out the Maine Community Cookbook anthology here.

You can view Rachel E. Church’s “Women of Windy Hill” artist book here.

Visit Rabelais to view a large selection of rare and out-of-print American cookbooks.  

Follow Melinda Sekela’s Unboxing Betty Project. 

Find all things Kayla Stewart here, and learn more about Ms. Emily and Gullah Geechee Home cooking here.

You can find Katie Parla’s latest work on her website. 

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Whether it’s for a Rosh Hashanah brisket or an end-of-summer barbecue, more and more people are buying meat from local suppliers. This week on Meat and Three, we spotlight the people who prepare our meat before it reaches our plates. We hear from butchers who are working to introduce consumers to new cuts and create more localized food supply chains. We investigate an innovation in retail that allows for socially distant shopping and we explore the staggering distances some small meat producers have to travel to reach a slaughterhouse. Plus we hear from one master of charcuterie who isn’t using meat at all. 

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What’s an age-old tradition used to enhance and flavor food? The condiment. Across the world condiments are added into and on top of dishes as a purveyor of a specific flavor. In the United States, ketchup and mustard are refrigerator essentials, while many Koreans have an entire fridge to ferment kimchi. While condiments are characteristically a side dish to the main show, this week we’re putting them in the spotlight. From hot sauce to pasta sauce, learn about the importance and variety of classic flavor enhancers. Plus, hear more about a climate-change induced condiment shortage and the craze of a cult classic sauce brought to life. 

Further Reading:

Follow Claire’s daily condiment adventures on Tiktok.

Read Lindsey’s work from Paris here.

Check out the many dijon mustards Eric creates with Brassica Mustard.  

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While the 2022 World Cup is in full swing, we at Meat and Three are taking on the challenge of investigating the relationship between food and sports. From the missing drink that’s dominating world cup discourse to the one available in plenty at Wimbledon, learn about the foods we associate with sports and how they affect our personal and national identities. Then, take a trip to the cooking competitions of the medieval Arab World and learn about how sailors prepare their kitchens for competitions that last days and even weeks. 

Further Reading:

To learn more about the construction of this year’s World Cup, read Pete Pattisson’s work. 

Explore Tony Collins’ historical work on sports and society and Sarah Gee’s work "Sport, Alcohol and Social Inquiry: A Global Cocktail."

Check out Nawal Nasrallah’s cookbook, "Delights from the Garden of Eden: A Cookbook and History of the Iraqi Cuisine."

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What can a nascent fruit tree tell us about camaraderie? How can increasing investments alert us to the challenges of capitalism? Meat and Three explores what HRN’s shows are saying about growth. We’ll nurture curiosity in the garden, weigh the pros and cons of the fake meat industry, and consider the role of restaurants in gentrifying neighborhoods. 

Further Reading and Listening:

Learn more about starting your garden journey on Feast Yr Ears episode 202: Garden Now!

Enjoy our episode about peaches on our podcast for kids: Time for Lunch episode 7: Peaches!

Dive deeper into ideas about combating gentrification through intentional hospitality on Tech Bites episode 250: Put the Giving Into Thanksgiving With the Neighborhood’s Table. 

Find The Neighborhood’s Table Community Survey Results here.

Listen to the full episode of Tech Bites episode 248: The Age of Unprecedented Investment in Food Tech with Rachel Konrad to hear more on investment in food tech. 

You can read more of Alicia Kennedy’s writing on her blog, “From the Desk of Alicia Kennedy.” 

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In this first episode of Love Letters to the Lower East Side Girls Club, we introduce you to your host and producer, Sasha DuBose (they/she), and the girls they taught during the Fall 2024 Flavor and Folklore after-school program at the Lower Eastside Girls Club. Tune in to follow along as Sasha shares the exciting things that they taught the LESGC Members, and the lessons learned in the process. And a few delicious recipes (and heehee hahas) too! 

This episode of Love Letters was brought to you by the LESGC Flavor and Folklore Members Amelia Rodriguez, Astan Kaba, Shayla James, Rae McGee, Noni Johnson, Symone Carre, Melissa Gregory, and Imani Hughes.

For more information about The Lower East Side Girls Club, click here. 

Check out more information about HRN’s storytelling education programming (updates coming soon!) here. 

Listen to Sasha’s stories on Meat & Three here.

Here is one of Sasha’s many recipes for collard greens.

If you want to have a Black Ass Tuesday of your own, check out Sasha’s all-time family favorite.

If you want to make Rae and Imani’s Jamaican staple, click here.

Learn more about the history behind Symone’s favorite Haitian dish, click here.

Heritage Radio Scholars offers high school students the opportunity to learn audio reporting techniques while discovering how food shapes the world around them. The program empowers young girls to connect with their culture, community, and themselves through food — all while honing their storytelling skills. HRN collaborated in Fall of 2024 with The Lower East Side Girls Club to create the Love Letters to the LES Girls Podcast through our newest iteration of the Heritage Radio Scholars Flavor and Folklore, a 10-week after school high school program serving the girls and femmes of the LES Girls Club. 

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club is exactly what it sounds like. HRN’s Digital Media Educator Sasha DuBose shares her experiences teaching the food storytelling course of their dreams. Combined with anecdotes from the girls she taught, the Love Letters Podcast highlights just how special this program was for everyone involved. The podcast series premieres February 14th, so expect something in the mail!

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club was reported by the LESGC Flavor and Folklore Members Kiyerra Braveboy, Astan Kaba, Shayla James, Amelia Rodriguez, Symone Carre, Noni Johnson, Imani Hughes, Rae McGee, and Melissa Gregory, with support from Santanah Thomas. 

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club is produced by Sasha DuBose and Taylor Early.  

Our audio engineer is Sam Gerardi.

Support the Heritage Radio Scholars program by becoming a member!

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Mother’s Day will look a little different this year without being able to go out for brunch or gather with relatives. Although celebrations may be limited, this week on Meat and Three we’re exploring the power of family recipes and the ways mothers inspire creativity in the kitchen all year round. 

Kevin Chang Barnum speaks with the founder of Eat, Darling, Eat a website chronicling mother-daughter relationships through the lens of food. Katie Philo interviews cookbook author Andrea Nguyen about the influence of her family history on her culinary career. Kat Johnson shares the secret to her mom’s oatmeal drop cookies. The producers of Modernist Breadcrumbs discuss another kind of mother, the one involved in cultivating yeast.

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This week on a special Super Tuesday-themed Meat and Three, we get ready for a big day at the polls by looking at the intersecting worlds of food and electoral politics.  We’ll bring you everywhere from Australian voting booths with a special sizzle, to a diner in New Hampshire that regularly plays host to future presidents.  

First, Rowan O’Connell-Gates takes us to the campaign trail with a story about candidates’ attempts to woo voters with food.  Kevin Chang Barnum explores Australia’s voting laws and how they created a tradition known as democracy sausage.  The Speakeasy host Sother Teague compares recent politics to the cultural climate that led to prohibition.  Finally, Ruby Walsh explains the risks of eating in public as she examines how one photo derailed a British Labor Party leader’s career.

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Recently, HRN traveled to Feast Portland, a west coast food festival that showcases truly delicious bites and deep talks about the current state of the food and beverage industry.  Since 2012, the festival has also raised over half a million dollars to help fight hunger.

In this episode, we’ll bring you some highlights from our conversations there, with a particular focus on what food business success looks like today. You’ll hear Salt & Straw co-founder, Tyler Malek in conversation with Dana Cowin, host of Speaking Broadly, chef Maya Lovelace speaking with Alex McCrery of Opening Soon, as well as discussions with Megan Sanchez of Güero, and food blogger Gaby Dalkin. 

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This week on Meat and Three we’re embracing the spooky spirit of Halloween. From zombies to witches, we’re exploring the odd… the occult… and the taboo in the world of food. First, we’ll delve head-first into real-life brain eating with organ meat expert, and cookbook co-author Michael Harlen Turkell. Then, we’ll learn about the New York rat infestations spurred by Covid-19 with rodentologist Dr. Bobby Corrigan. Ryder Bell takes us into the mysterious world of ghost kitchens and we travel back in time with Tash Kimmell  to uncover what might have been the real culprit behind the Salem Witch Trials. 

Further Reading:

Check out Linda Caporeal’s Ergot theory  here 

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In episode 2 of Rice Revelations, Producer Sasha DuBose (they/she) finally talks about rice! From grappling with the impact of enslavement to finding levity in the links between West African and Gullah Geechee cultures, Sasha uses rice as a tool to peer deeper into herself. She blends her personal experiences with research from historian Dr. Edda Fields Black and geographer Dr. Judith Carney — creating an “academic baddie link up” for your ears. 

Notes & Credits:

Rice Revelations was conceptualized and produced by Sasha DuBose. You also heard from the beloved Taylor Early at the top of the episode.

The Rice Revelations Logo is designed by Sasha’s sister, Kennedy DuBose.

Learn more about Dr. Judith Carney and her research here, and get your own copy of Black Rice here.

Learn more about Dr. Edda Fields-Black and her research here.

If you want to learn more about the fight to preserve Gullah Geechee Culture, click here.

Learn more about how climate volatility is impacting the Gullah Geechee community by clicking here.


From the Pantry is a limited series developed by HRN’s Director of Education and Creative Development Taylor Early, focusing on illuminating HRN’s two-fold mission of educating community members in response to a changing world and cultivating the next generation of food media leaders. This series is made up of four narrative arcs researched, scripted, and produced by one of alumni fellows. Each fellow pulled concepts, ideas and conversations from HRN’s archive (the pantry) and created stories that explore the personal significance and broader cultural meaning of what they found.

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For many people, the word “farming” connotes food production. A means to an end; plant the seed so we can later eat the harvest. While food yield is, no doubt, an important part of agriculture, this week we look toward the bi-products of the process itself. That is, the various healing elements the experience of farming and gardening bring. 

We first look at how farming and gardening provide moments of solace and reprieve for those currently and formerly incarcerated. Natasha Kimmel looks at how The Insight Garden Program uses agriculture programs in prison to teach everything from leadership and communication to respect and empathy. Hannah Fordin talks with Ironbound Farm about their regenerative farming program which aims to foster social development and provide employment for chronically underemployed groups. We then travel to Thailand where Emily Kunkel talks with Radical Grandma Collective, a group of grandmothers using farming to fight against a toxic goldmine threatening their bodily health. Finally, Lisa Held, host of The Farm Report, talks with an Alabama teaching farm about their transition from an after-school program to a community produce provider in the face of Covid-19.

In March, HRN began producing all of our 35 weekly shows from our homes all around the country. It was hard work stepping away from our little recording studio, but we know that you rely on HRN to share resources and important stories from the world of food each week. It’s been a tough year for all of us, but right now HRN is asking for your help. Every dollar that listeners give to HRN provides essential support to keep our mics on. We've got some fresh new thank you gifts available, like our limited edition bandanas.

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We’re back! To start our fourth season, we're celebrating HRN’s 10th birthday with a very special episode about HRN's home, Brooklyn. Not only is it the birthplace of food radio, but it's also home to some buzzy neighborhood pollinators and the urban farmers who care for them. We have an interview with Eric Adams, Brooklyn's Borough President, who shares his transformative health journey. Our neighborhood of Bushwick has changed a lot over the past decade, from its culinary renaissance to the complicated implications of gentrification, and we take a look at how businesses have shaped – and continue to shape – our community. Finally, we have a look towards 2020, as we consider how challenging, yet crucial, the census count will be in Bushwick.

This program is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

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From piping hot pizza to the satisfyingly boxed Chinese food, takeout and delivery have been a part of our lives for over a century. This year, however, delivery went from a convenience to a necessity. Covid-19 forced restaurants and supermarkets to adapt quickly. The country has been faced with the question: How can we get food safely and efficiently? One answer has been delivery. 

First, we take a step back and see how takeout and delivery have been at the forefront of social and economic change throughout the 20th century.  We hear from one delivery driver about how his job has and hasn’t changed since the start of quarantine. Brandon Hoy, co-founder and COO of Roberta’s Pizza in Brooklyn, tells us how his restaurants are using new and innovative ways to streamline their delivery service amid Covid-19 safety regulations and staff shortages. Lastly, The Big Food Question  helps us answer some of our most pressing pandemic-related delivery queries. 

Further Reading:

History of American takeout and Delivery

Find Rev Cianco’s free webinars on Youtube, like this one and this one about delivery. And Rev’s bootcamp will pick up again in the fall. To get in touch with Rev and keep up with upcoming events and additional resources, visit his website here or find him on Instagram and Facebook.

Subscribe to The Big Food Question (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS) 

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On our season five finale of Meat and Three, we take you where no other podcast has gone before… into the heart of The Lettuce Club. Kat Johnson gets some help from student journalist, Heidi Stang, to tell the story of a group of students at the University of Minnesota Duluth racing to see who can eat a whole head of lettuce the fastest.

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Like the rest of the education system in the US, culinary schools and work-study programs have been acutely disrupted. Classes aimed at training chefs, bakers, and bartenders are inherently hands-on. Plus, there are a lot of people who get training through work opportunities like  international study programs or externships in professional kitchens. On this bonus episode, reported by Macgill Webb, we hear personal accounts of how COVID-19 has impeded culinary education.

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Seeds are the source and symbol of life. In our modern food system, with fewer and fewer people physically involved in the practice of agriculture, it’s easy to forget that our sustenance comes from the heroics of these persistent organisms. 

With spring just around the corner, we’re sowing the seeds of knowledge and empathy through four unique stories. We dig into why some seed sellers’ shortage of seeds was actually due to an abundance of zealous home-gardeners. We harvest ideas from an episode of Fields, a new urban farming podcast on HRN, on how seeds are the world’s first and only time travelers, and what they can share with us about the future. We forage through the world of invasive species, and how they can be a proxy for migratory groups and sentiments towards immigrants. Finally, we conclude with a story on the cultural importance of heirloom seeds in the Cherokee nation and their historical struggle to attain seed sovereignty. 

Further Reading:

Fields: This episode featured “Episode 1: Seeds and Time Travel.” Subscribe to Fields wherever you get your podcasts (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

If you want to learn more about the increased seed demand, you can read Lisa Held’s article in Civil Eats, The COVID Gardening Renaissance Depends on Seeds—if You Can Find Them

Learn more about artist Jan Mun’s work with “invasive” species and mycoremediation – using fungi to break down toxic chemicals – on her website. 

You can follow Marisa Prefer’s work with weeds and urban landscapes  at invisible labor and Pioneer Works.

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On this week's episode of Meat and Three, we are heading back to school. This year, the first day at school looks a lot different. From daycares to universities, every institution is operating under a different model – and that includes their plans for how students will eat. We bring you reports from cafeterias, take a look at how schools are supporting students who require subsidized lunch, and explore some tips for teaching young kids about nutrition from the comfort of their homes. 

Further Reading:

If you live in Alabama and need to access food resources for your county, go to aub.ie/foodguides. 

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Big triumphs are often followed by bigger letdowns. Our series premiere is about hitting a snag.

Vallery Lomas won season four of The Great American Baking Show, but her season never aired due to sexual misconduct allegations against one of the show's judges, Johnny Iuzzini.

Mikkel Borg Bjergsø was once a champion runner. After opening his brewery, Mikkeller, he found the steady supply of beer had a negative effect on his stamina. The solution to his problem became a world-wide phenomenon.

Alison Roman released her acclaimed cookbook, Dining In, in October 2017. When her recipe for Salted Chocolate Chunk Shortbread Cookies went viral, she became their Instagram "stage mom" and had to learn to deal with some unexpected haters.

Finally, one of the biggest triumphs for NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio was the installation of universal free lunch for all public school students. While City Hall celebrated, workers in lunch rooms across the city faced the realization that they would soon be understaffed and overworked.

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About the episode art: this week, we found ourselves inspired by not one, but two expert bakers! We decided to write our episode title in flour, and luckily for us, our flagship sponsor, Bob's Red Mill, has plenty of great flours to choose from.

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Today on Meat and Three we’re talking acknowledgement and celebration as a tool for social change and sustainability. And we’re doing so by celebrating our own archive; our reporters look back at some of their favorite stories from the HRN airwaves. 
 

Further Reading: Check out the original episodes referenced in our episode below! 

Elizabeth’s story: Dyed Green: Call of the Wild with Lucy O'Hagan

Discover more about Wild Awake Ireland, here. 

Addison’s story: Taste of the Past: Valerio Farris and Cuisine of the Spanish Roma

Jessica’s story: Taste of the Past: Dr. Nicola Nice and Reading Between the Lines and Lives of Vintage Cocktail Books

Hannah’s story: Gastronomica: Chef Malcolm James Mitchell and the fight for hospitality reform 
 

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Elizabeth Fisher, Addison Austin-Lou, Jessica Gingrich, and Hannah Chouinard.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode was Armen Spendijan.

Includes music from the album Be Happy With Who You Are by HoliznaCC0.

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In the United States, the first recorded eating competition is said to date back to 1916, when new immigrants showed off their new American patriotism by eating as many hot dogs as fast as possible. Today, we take a deeper look into that well-established Fourth of July tradition and try to figure out how (and why) competitors push their stomachs to the limits.

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We're back from Slow Food Nations – a festival of flavor, culture and exploration organized by Slow Food USA. This year's gathering focused on identifying tangible solutions to problems in the food system and developing specific actionable items for positive change.

Towards the end of the festival, the Slow Food International press office sent an email with the subject line “Slow Food Nations embraces equity, inclusion and justice in food.” It outlined Slow Food USA’s formal commitment to food justice and dismantling structures that perpetuate inequity and exclusion. It just so happens that it intersects nicely with HRN's mission of making the world more equitable, sustainable, and delicious….

Today, we bring you three interview excerpts that embody the new Slow Food USA manifesto:

EQUITY: John Ikerd holds a PhD in Agricultural Economics and spent much of his career at Land Grant Universities. He believes that there is a way to solve the issue of equity. It requires us to view food as a public utility and place a larger emphasis on human relationships.

INCLUSION: Adrian Miller served as the Deputy Director of President Bill Clinton’s Initiative for One America – the first free-standing White House office in history to examine and focus on closing the opportunity gaps that exist for minorities in this country. After leaving the White House, Adrian became a writer focusing on soul food – using his expertise to elevate voices of color in the food world.

JUSTICE: Tara Rodriguez Besosa participated in the Slow Food panel, When Disaster Strikes, that grappled with topics like vulnerable communities, food waste on a large scale, and devastation. Tara speaks with HRN about her efforts to decolonize Puerto Rico’s food system and help farmers rebuild after last year’s devastating hurricanes.

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Beer before wine, you’ll be fine? Prevailing wisdom says you can avoid a hangover by consuming drinks in the correct order, but does it hold true? This week on Meat + Three, we’re exploring the interactions that happen within our bodies, on our plates, between cultures, and in laboratories. While some interactions mean a hellish hangover, others bring us delightful recipes or medical innovations.

We speak with scientists about the unexpected results on a mixed drink, get advice from all over the world on how to avoid a hangover, learn the secrets of Roberta’s delicious pizza dough, and celebrate the culinary convergence of Texas and India.

This program is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

Photo by Mackenzie Kelley for Indian-ish.

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A food memory is never just the meal itself. It’s the people who cooked it, the chatter around the table, the distance traveled and time waited just to taste this food. Today, we’re serving up a smorgasbord of experiences from each member of the Meat and Three team. From fresh-squeezed juice in Mexico City to the late-night fast food haunts of competitive swing dancers, we’ve got messages from the whole team on the food they love, and the places that make that food come alive with meaning. 

Further Reading:

If you wanna hear the story of how Chef Eric See got his restaurant from concept to opening day, check out The Build. For more info about the wine we drank, check out Sapere, brought lovingly from Napa to Ursula by the lovely sommelier Sacha. After binging the season, NYC locals; go have a bite and a drink at Ursula (and tell Eric that Taylor sent you!)

For more of the hilarious Chala June, check out their Instagram!

Find out more about Kalustyan’s,  Rocky’s Historic Eastern Market, Sunny and Annie’s, and Vynil Beer.

If you want to catch Addison in action behind the sushi bar, you can find her here.

Episode Credits
This episode of Meat and Three was sent lovingly to you from our whole team: Danielle Flitter, Asha McElroy, H Conley, Hannah Chouinard, Sophia Hooper, Elizabeth Fisher, Addison Austin-Lou, Jess Gingrich, Sam Gerardi, and Taylor Early. 

Our lead producer on this episode was Sophia Hooper, with support from Sam Gerardi.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode is H Conley.

Our theme song was composed by Breakmaster Cylinder.

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On this week's episode of Meat and Three, we explore what happens when food is consumed through a screen. From a simple TV or computer monitor to the more complex VR goggles, the sensory experience of food is fundamentally shifted with the mediation of a virtual barrier. 

Kat Johnson first ponders the significance (or lack thereof) of fruit cameos on cable news. Next, Tash Kimmel looks at how urban foraging is aided through a virtual platform. We then move to the world of virtual reality. Emily Kunkel examines how VR can be used to unlock new therapeutic and utilitarian applications of food, and Dylan Heuer talks with Jenny Dorsey about how she uses VR to bring political and metaphorical meaning to the dinner party format. 

Further Reading:

Learn more about Asian in America and Studio ATAO.

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This week on Meat and Three, we’re breaking out our magnifying glass to explore the smallest corners of the food world. We start with the microbial and scale our way up from there, but only by a bit. From the tiniest of farmers to deceptive industrial practices, we set out to prove that the most interesting of stories can come in the smallest packages. 

If you’re fascinated by the prospect of cultivating microbes at home, we have just the event for you. On Wednesday, March 8th, Harry and HRN will be hosting “Fermentation Never Sleeps” at Farm to People in Bushwick, Brooklyn. It’s a panel discussion and tasting, and it’s all about inviting microbes into your personal culinary canon by approaching fermentation in a way that works for you. Click here to learn more and reserve your tickets. 

Further Reading:

Subscribe to Fields now to be the first to know when they launch their new season this Spring. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS). 

Marti Buckley is a writer based in San Sebastián, Spain. Marti writes extensively about Basque cuisine and culture.  Check out her book on Basque cuisine, La Cocina Vasca here. You can learn more about her upcoming projects here.  

Ted Schultz is an entomologist at the Smithsonian Musuem of Natural History. Here you can learn more about his research on fungus farming ants. 

You can visit Edgar Dworsky's website here.

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With the future of food policy looking murky, we turn to experts in the field to help us understand the realities of the bureaucracy surrounding food security, farming rights, and pesticide regulation. We speak to scientists whose research influences the policy we see on the congressional floor. We hear from nonprofits working to navigate the endless maze of food assistance programs and advocate for those on the receiving end. And, we break down the legislation influencing the future of food sovereignty in the US. There are rarely clear answers or defined conclusions when it comes to the policy surrounding one of humans’ most basic needs. But, as we head into the new year, we hope these stories serve as a reminder that there are people working towards a more equitable and sustainable food future for all. 

Further Reading:

To learn more about the current state of debt relief for Black farmers, read this article from Civil Eats

To read up on the latest updates about soil carbon storage, check out this article from The Counter

To read the full language of the amendment and public commentary you can take a look at the Maine election guide from November 2021 as well as the Ballot Pedia page

For more Maine farming statistics, check out the 2020 state agricultural report.

To learn more about the corporations who own the majority of the worlds’ seed patents, you can read this Deutsche Welle article

For stats on hunger in the U.S., go to Feeding America’s website

To learn how you can get involved and take action on policy regarding school meals, check out FoodCorps’ Action Center.

To learn more about some of the nutrition provisions in the Build Back Better Act, check out this report from the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities.

To learn more about the Natural Resources Defense Council, go to their website here.

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This week on Meat and Three, we’re sharing a special episode that addresses recent police violence and revisits HRN’s tribute to Philando Castile, a school cafeteria worker who was killed by a police officer on July 6, 2016 in Falcon Heights, Minnesota. We also had the privilege of speaking with Philando’s mother, Valerie Castile, who provides an update on the work she’s doing through the Philando Castile Relief Foundation to support families who have lost loved ones to gun violence, pay school lunch debts, and enact police reform.

HRN will be donating 10% of our membership drive proceeds from today until June 15 to the Philando Castile Relief Foundation, to support the important work being done by Valerie Castile and her family. Visit heritageradionetwork.org/donate to make your gift

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In order to honor indigenous foodways and culture, we need to start talking about them in the present tense. Let’s look to the future in order to dismantle a colonial past! In this episode we explore some of the ways indigenous communities are revitalizing ancestral foodways and centering them in contemporary conversations about cuisine. Focused in the American Southwest, our reporters explore a Navajo farm producing culturally appropriate baby foods, a restaurant collectively run by the 19 Pueblos of New Mexico, and a restaurant/online indigenous marketplace based in Denver. 

Further Reading:

Check out the menu at Indian Pueblo Kitchen, and plan a visit to the Indian Pueblo Cultural Center. 

Aside from a supervisor at Indian Pueblo Kitchen, Channing Concho is also the drummer for Suspended, an all-female metal band. You can find their music here! 

Read more about Tocabe on their website or in this article ; you can also read about Tocabe Indigenous Marketplace in the New York Times.

Learn more about Bidii Baby Foods by visiting their website

Credits:

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Addison Austin-Lou, Jessica Gingrich, Elizabeth Fisher, and Hannah Chouinard.

Our lead producer on this episode was Addison Austin-Lou, with support from Sophia Hooper and Sam Gerardi.

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Almost a month ago, Hurricane Florence wreaked havoc on the Carolinas. She displaced thousands of residents and caused billions of dollars in damages. Just this week, Hurricane Michael ravaged a section of Florida's panhandle that has already faced decades of hardship, due to climate change, disappearing industry, and the BP oil spill. Apalachicola, one of the small, historic fishing towns that received a direct hit, is home to a shrinking oyster industry. Michael could be one of the final blows to that economy. Sadly, hurricane season has become a cycle of damage and repair that we're becoming all too familiar with. We'll continue to follow developments in the panhandle, and this week on Meat + Three, we take a look at the recovery efforts underway in other areas of the southeast, including North Carolina.

Our stories this week look into the Waffle House Index, World Central Kitchen's recovery efforts, the affects of flooding on small and large farms, and a very different type of storm: the kind that can happen on social media.

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From coffee shops to cocktail bars, the world of beverages has been turned upside down by the pandemic. You can’t always drink what you want. And now, more than ever, you can’t always drink where you want. But even before Covid-19, transformations in the production line, farming practices, and workplace inclusivity have affected what we drink. 

In this episode, splash into the world of beverages – from the drinks we sip on to the places we imbibe. We’ll investigate the ways access, history, legislation, and simple circumstance may limit the beverages we consume. We’ll explore how to make the most of the ingredients lying around the dustiest of liquor cabinets. And for those who are tired of making at-home drinks, we’ll hear from a North Carolina state representative and bar owners about the state of to-go cocktails. We’ll learn about the future of the American craft cider industry and its potential to diversify the labor force backed behind it. Finally, we’ll delve into the increasingly popular caffeinated drink Yaupon, whose history tells a story of cultural resilience. 

Additional Resources

Check out John deBary’s flowchart and plenty more cocktail tips in his book, Drink What You Want. If you’re interested in learning more about non-alcoholic drinks, give Proteau a try. 

Hard Core: This episode featured “Episode 6: What’s Next for American Craft Cider?” Subscribe to Hard Core wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

Thirsty? Sip on some Yaupon Brothers American Tea. 

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Explore sustainability below the surface! While seafood production and consumption continue to increase, the ocean’s finite supply is vulnerable to overfishing and environmental degradation. We look at what it means to sustainably farm, manage and capture seafood. We’ll examine the environmental benefits of the leafy greens living in the ocean and learn how Indigenous people have historically managed oyster fisheries. Plus, we meet a company redesigning the lobster trap to protect surrounding sea life and get to know activists protecting their local ecosystems from industrial expansion. 

Further Reading:

Check out Daybreak Seaweed’s products and mission here.

Learn more about the long history of sustainable oyster fisheries by reading the Nature article published by Dr. Reeder Meyer and her colleagues.

Read about the lobster trapping/right whale controversy through this article by Sara Besky: Lobsters, Whales, and Traps: The Politics of Endangerment in the Gulf of Maine

Learn more about Crystal Canney’s work at Protect Maine’s Fishing Heritage Foundation as well as Dwayne Shaw’s organization, the Downeast Salmon Federation. 

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Pirate radio founders in Italy, Nonnas in Staten Island, pig farmers in coastal Georgia, and seaweed entrepreneurs in Maine – these are just a few of the characters you'll meet in this week's episode. We look at a word that's central to our mission – HERITAGE – by exploring flavor preservation, family recipes, and both land-based and aquatic farming practices. Our food heritage is something to be celebrated and fiercely protected, and it takes a diverse group of people to give our culinary history the recognition it deserves.

This program is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

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Following Black History Month, we consider what it means for Black food leaders to cultivate a better future for their communities, and thus, for all. From producing new techniques for use in rural agriculture to increasing representation as food entrepreneurs, members of Black communities across the country are looking inward to move forward. By responding dynamically to community needs, they demonstrate that the power and vision for transformation come from within.

Further Reading:

Want to hear more from Zella Palmer on Culture & Flavor? Subscribe now to get the episodes as they launch! (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

Listen to the full Fields episode on Universe City and Afro-Indigenous Food Sovereignty featuring Alexis Mena here. 

Learn more about Nancy Rosborough’s truffle technology at Mycorrhiza Biotech here. 

For more information about Acta Non Verba Youth Urban Farm, visit their website.  

Check out Cloudy Donut’s delectable flavors. 

Jerrell’s BETR BRGR can be found in lower Manhattan and in Hoboken, New Jersey. Check out their website.

Good Part & Co is a Black-owned juicebar in Baltimore, right outside of John Hopkins University. For more information, check out their website.

Deb Freeman is a food anthropologist and writer focusing on Black culinary history. You can listen to season 1 of Setting the Table here, and keep up with her work here.

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In this episode of Meat and Three, we are trying to move beyond western medical definitions, and thinking outside the box to better understand disordered eating. Disordered eating has a history of visibility as a negative disease, and largely impacting a small population. Historically, young, white women and girls are depicted in the media and in literature with eating disorders. However, the phenomenon of disordered eating, which we’re using here to mean “eating outside of the norm” contains far more nuance in who and how it is actually experienced. We’re diving into the nuance soup to explore what a Girl Dinner is and could mean, a medical anthropologist's perspective on intuitive eating, and the impact of fad diets and social media on our collective psyches. 

Further Reading:

Listen to Annie Koempel’s entire interview on Gastronomica here. 

Check out Zoya Rehman and her work on Instagram.

Revisit Meat and Three’s previous episode about Diet Culture.

If you want to watch TikTok user thatdarnchat’s video, head over to TikTok here. 

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Today’s episode delves into rules and restaurants. Anyone who works in a restaurant will tell you, success depends on following a strict code of conduct. Sometimes the rules are clearly written down. Sometimes they’re unspoken. But the underlying goal is usually the same... to avoid chaos, ensure food safety, and guarantee customers’ satisfaction.

Hannah Fordin takes a look at the people who cause fear when they step into a NYC restaurant---the health inspectors responsible for enforcing the rules of food safety.

Nina Medvinskaya visits a small midtown eatery to learn more about the importance of determining whether food is kosher.

Dylan Heuer investigates why a potential new legal ruling is causing controversy in the restaurant industry and beyond.

Finally, we share the answer to a food rule we get asked about all the time at HRN. When is it safe to eat oysters?

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Celebrate and honor Juneteenth on this episode of Meat and Three! We’ll discuss the culture, food, and history of this important holiday that recognizes the emancipation of enslaved African Americans. Learn about soul food with a creative twist, discover the food history behind the holiday, and be inspired by a chef giving back to his community. 

Further Reading: 

Pre-order Nicole’s new book, Watermelon & Red Birds: A Cookbook for Juneteenth and Black Celebrations. Listen to Nicole’s interview on our own HRN’s A Taste of the Past this June! Check out the June 2011 and 2013 Hot Grease episodes you heard. 

Start your soul food journey with Adrian Miller by checking out his James Beard Award winning book Soul Food: The Surprising Story of an American Cuisine, One Plate at a Time.

Learn more about Smoky Johns and Brent Reaves on the restaurant’s website and Instagram.

Follow Chef Chris Williams's work in Houston on Lucille’s and Lucille’s 1913’s websites.  

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COVID-19 is here, and as of this week, plans for reducing its impact are starting to affect Americans’ day-to-day lives. Hundreds of events have been cancelled or suspended, including SXSW and the remainder of the NBA’s season. The stock market is basically a financial roller coaster due to global uncertainty in the face of COVID-19, and President Trump instituted a ban on travel from Europe, with the exception of the UK. However, the virus continues to spread in communities across the country.

In a public health crisis, it can sometimes feel like the food system is being reshuffled before our eyes. That’s why this week we are taking a look at how outbreaks, both past and present, shape the way that we eat.

We have stories about COVID-19's effects on NYC's Chinatowns, how World Central Kitchen mobilized to provide emergency food logistics for the Diamond Princess in Japan, the locust plague wreaking havoc in East Africa and South Asia, and why food fraud is so dangerous and hard to detect.

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Food and debate are a natural pairing. Whether it’s politics at the dinner table, check paying privileges, or how rare you’d like your ribeye, a meal can bring out fiery passions and strong opinions. But, have you considered that your opinions could just be wrong?

This week, we're diving deep into the world of food myths and setting the record straight. We’ll be tackling sushi sexism, demystifying MSG, defending the Wisconsin Old Fashioned, and breaking down skin contact wine.

Further Reading:

Visit Chefs Peggi Ince-Whiting and Addison Austin-Lou at Kyoto Japanese Restaurant in Salt Lake City! 

For more on female sushi chefs, check out this article from Financial Times, and listen to this episode of HRN’s very own Japan Eats!

You can find Dr. Debbie Fetter’s blog dedicated to breaking down hot topics and myths in nutrition here!

You can find the original 1995 FDA-commissioned report on MSG here, the 2007 Honheim consensus from Europe here (note that MSG falls under “added-as-flavor” glutamate measurements), and the European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) 2017 evaluation of additive glutamic acid–glutamates here.

The following links are two meta analyses on MSG studies, discussing results, issues of applicability to human subjects, and more. Meta Analysis 1 Meta Analysis 2

For a comprehensive history of MSG, and a multifaceted critical analysis of its use in industrial food production, take a look at Dr. Sarah Tracey’s 2016 thesis, Delicious:  A History of Monosodium Glutamate and Umami, the Fifth Taste Sensation. Dr. Tracey’s collaboration with TedEd is an excellent sample of some ideas within the paper.

For another ode to the Wisconsin Old Fashioned, take a look at Toby Cecchini’s personal essay in the New Yorker, dedicated to the cocktail.

For more on the makings, history and flavors of orange wine, listen to this episode of Natural Disasters from the HRN archives. 

This episode was reported by Addison Austin-Lou, Sam Gerardi, Hannah Chouinard, and Elizabeth Fisher.

Sam Gerardi was the Lead Producer on this episode, with support from Sophia Hooper.

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It’s the final episode of our series on global trade, and we’ve got our eyes set on the future.

In the past, trade was hindered by distance and limited communication, which today’s internet and fast travel routes have helped to mediate. These days, trade is confronted by new issues: global inequalities that force people to migrate, machines so efficient they’re making human labor redundant, and alarming threats to cybersecurity.

We’ll start by looking at the borders that still divide countries, and the people whose profession it is to cross them. Then, we’ll hear about job automation, and why sitting back and letting robots do our work for us may not be as relaxing as it sounds. Next, we’ll dig deep into the dark corners of the internet. And finally, to conclude our series, we’ll travel to the “new” Silk Road.

Further Reading:

You can find a longer interview with Alyshia Gálvez on a November episode of Meant to be Eaten. To read more about how NAFTA impacts public health and people’s lives in Mexico, check out her book, Eating NAFTA.

You can explore the Dark Web more through Robert Gehl’s book. 

Listen to Eating Matters’ full interview with Robyn Metcalf on Episode 137 and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

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Food insecurity in the U.S. is nothing new, but it has only been exacerbated by the pandemic. As food accessibility conditions shift and problems take on new proportions, communities continue to respond in new ways. Some have implemented matching programs at local farmers markets, others have installed community fridges for neighbors in need of groceries. Join us in this episode of Meat and Three as we explore how people are collaborating to combat food insecurity. 

Further Reading and Listening:

Check out this map of community fridges in NYC.

Learn more about the Ridgewood Tenants Union.

To learn more about the Center for Regional Food Studies, check out their site. 

Click here to learn more about the work of Berkeley Food Network. 

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Wind your way through the world’s markets, both physical and financial, to find out how they’re changing. This week on Meat + Three, we explore global food trade. First, we follow the journey of deliciously sweet dates – from markets in the Middle East to Missouri. Then, Cathy Erway introduces us to Lizzie Collingham’s book, Taste of Empire, which tells the story of the British Empire's lasting influence on on world through 20 significant dishes. Finally, we try to understand how climate change is shifting global food markets by examining the "canary in the coal mine" of agriculture: vineyards.

This program is supported in part by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

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This week, we have a bonus segment about what it takes to end hunger in America. Back on episode 10, we brought you a few highlights from our trip to Slow Food Nations. Many of you reached out about one segment in particular: a clip of our interview with John Ikerd. So this week, we bring you that interview in its entirety.

We first heard Ikerd speak at the Slow Food Leadership Summit, and became intrigued by one of his big ideas. He believes that there is a way to solve hunger in the U.S. It requires us to view food as a public utility and place a larger emphasis on human relationships.

Ikerd holds a PhD in Agricultural Economics from the University of Missouri, and his career focus was agricultural extension. In 1984, he became the director of Extension Agricultural Economics at the University of Georgia. However, in the 80s, his way of thinking began to shift. The US was experiencing a farm crisis, and Ikerd began to see failures of the policies he had been advocating to farmers. He reoriented his work towards sustainable agriculture and economics, and brought this outlook to the Land Grant system. He returned to the University of Missouri in 1989, under a cooperative agreement with the USDA, with a mission to develop research and educational programs related to sustainable agriculture.

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We’d like to talk to you about food waste. Up to 40% of food in the United States is wasted. That’s about 400 pounds of food per person every year. But who can really fix the problem? Does the responsibility of reducing food waste lie with farmers, restaurateurs… or with us consumers?

We look at how one foreign government figured out a way to get individual citizens to get actively involved in solving the crisis.

Our other stories this week investigate the waste created by American's obsession with greek yogurt, New York City food establishments’ role in cutting down on food waste, and most simply: why is food waste such a big problem?

We also bring you a developing story out of Brooklyn: the recent and sudden closure of Pilotworks. 175 local food businesses were left stranded after the venture-capital backed food incubator and production kitchen ceased operations with less than 24 hours warning.

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This week’s episode is our second installment of our Money Talks series. In this episode, we explore how the large functions of the global economy intersect with the changing food industry. First, we look at the legacy of Pilotworks, a culinary co-working space showing the possibilities and limitations of a silicon-valley like approach to the food space. Next, we learn about the link between banking and climate change and how a bank account can support sustainable agriculture. For our last two stories, we hear two different perspectives on venture capital funding in food. 

Further Reading:

To keep up with all the latest on shrinkflation and Edgar Dworsky’s finds, check out his website: https://www.mouseprint.org/

To learn more about Walden Mutual, you can visit waldenmutual.com

To read the Los Angeles Times Op-Ed on the environmental impact of banking, here. 

You can find Chloe Sorvino’s reporting here or find her on twitter. 

Chloe’s new book is Raw Deal: Hidden Corruption, Corporate Greed, and the Fight for the Future of Meat. 

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When we talk about agriculture in the U.S. there is often an archetypical  American farmer that comes to mind. Perhaps they’re in overalls, maybe a cowboy hat, but they’re almost always white. The white farmer trope has become a fixture in America’s invented agricultural past. However, American agriculture has long relied on  the labor and expertise of Black people, while perpetually writing them out of history. 

Produced by our intern Tash Kimmell, this episode will explore the fraught history of Black agriculture in the US. From land grabbing, to shady USDA lending practices, to the government's most recent attempts at righting the wrongs of a racist past. 

Further Reading:

To learn more about Dr. Gails non-profit visit farmstogrow.com

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Debates around what’s traditional or authentic are constantly spinning in the culinary world— so much so that numerous organizations have been formed to protect the authenticity of various dishes and production methods. In Mezcal’s case, there is an organization whose name translates to The Mexican Regulatory Council for the Quality of Mezcal. The stated purpose of this group, and others like it, is to uphold quality through strict regulations and guidelines. But how do these regulations potentially push people out?

This week on Meat and Three, we’re unpacking the meaning of authenticity in the culinary world. We explore the pressure authenticity can have on individuals and how there may be more than one “right” version of the way to cook a dish.  

Further Reading:

Learn more about researcher Kathleen Ja Sook Bergquist here.

Jenny Herman is a doctoral fellow in the Cultural Studies department at KU Leuven in Belgium. Her current research focuses on the relationship between nationalism and culinary heritage initiatives. You can read more about her research here. 

Check out David Schlosser’s full interview on Japan Eats!

Read Elaine Castillo’s article, Colonialism in a can, in full. 

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When you think of corn, you might think of the 90s metal band (spelled with a ‘K’ and embodying a raucous explosion of angst and anger). More likely, corn conjures images of a summer barbeque: bright yellow ears grilled, buttered, and eaten straight off the cob.

However, the story of corn is more expansive and complicated than these contemporary reference points. Right now, industrial corn farming consumes 96 million acres of United States farmland (the US is the world’s largest producer of the crop). It receives billions of dollars in government subsidies every year, and it has turned the once-rich grassland of the midwest into the industrial corn belt, a vast monoculture with weak, pesticide-ridden soil.

This week, we unpack the role that corn plays in our ecosystems, economies, and the experiences of farmers. We start with a story about organic corn being fed to livestock. Then, we dive into the world of ethanol, and learn why it may not be the answer to our energy needs. We explore the complicated politics of corn legislation and how it affects farmers. Finally, we learn about the spiritual history of corn, and how people are keeping that history alive today.

Further Reading:

If you want to learn more about industrial corn farming, you can check out this article in Mother Jones, or you can read part one of Michael Pollen’s The Omnivore's Dilemma, which is all about corn.

To learn more about corn in Oaxaca, check out Yira Vallejo and Jonathan Barbieri’s work on the film Los Guardianes del Maíz.

If you’re interested in keeping up with Korn fans, you can check out Patrick’s Korn covers on his YouTube channel. You can also listen to Justin Wilson’s full episode about Korn on his podcast, Deprogrammed.

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Many of us probably have family recipes that have been passed down from generation to  generation. These recipes, which have transcended time, are a reminder of how elders in our family tree continue to have lasting influences on our lives, even and especially in a time of isolation.

This week, we dedicate our stories to elders, grandparents and family members who came before us. First, we follow a food delivery program for elders on a rural island in Maine as they bridge the distance to build community. Then we  take a seat at the table to learn how retirement home residents are rejoicing in the simple act of dining together. We journey to Georgia, where a farmer is continuing a century-long family legacy and we dive into the various ways food is used to remember ancestors around the world.

Further Reading and Listening:

Check out Robyn Grant’s research and work with The National Consumer Voice for Quality Long-Term Care here. 

You heard a clip from Episode 1 of Jupiter’s Almanac. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts.(Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

You can pre-order Matthew Raiford’s book Bress 'n' Nyam: Gullah Geechee Recipes from a Sixth-Generation Farmer here.

Learn more from Dying to Eat: Cross-Cultural Perspectives on Food, Death, and the Afterlife

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Before this new episode of Meat + Three, we take a moment to remember Anthony Bourdain, who passed away today.

Bourdain was in France working on an upcoming episode of his award-winning CNN series "Parts Unknown." His close friend Eric Ripert found Bourdain unresponsive in his hotel room Friday morning (June 8, 2018). CNN reported that the cause of death was suicide. Bourdain was 61 years old. We send our love and condolences to his family, friends, and team at Zero Point Zero.

If someone you know exhibits warning signs of suicide, call the U.S. National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 800-273-TALK (8255).

Today's topic is water. On June 2nd, the World Health Organization and UNICEF released a report that 2.1 billion people do not have access to safe drinking water at home. At HRN, our most vocal advocate for clean H20 is Katy Keiffer, host of What Doesn’t Kill You. Lately, she’s been jumping into the topic of water contamination in the heartland. We bring you excerpts from her recent shows that dive into the issue of nitrate-laced water in two farming communities.

Rural areas are more affected by water pollution, but that doesn’t mean urban areas are immune to their own water woes. Hannah Fordin spoke to a reporter who just broke the story that hundreds of New York City’s water tanks could be contaminated.

Our last story looks into high-end waters and what lengths bar owners and restaurateurs will go to find the perfect level of bubbles in their bottles.

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When the leaves start to fall and temperatures begin to drop, one of our favorite things to do is celebrate the funk in food. This week, we bring you four stories about fungi and fermentation. From the magical properties of cheese rinds and sourdough starters – to the complex processes behind co-fermentation and myco-cultivation, this FUNKY show has something for everyone on a mission for great flavor in every meal.

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Happy Halloween to all you Gastro Ghouls and Goblins out there! This week, we’re telling you spooky stories from history, film, and beyond. First up, we hear from Jess Krainchich about the bygone practice of “sin eating” at Victorian era funerals. Then, Nicole Cornwell delves into the genre of agri-horror, to explain why you see so many farmhouses in horror movies.  We learn about the banana industry’s frightening backstory, as H Conley talks with nature and science writer, Dan Koeppel, about the spotted past of America’s favorite fruit. Finally, we hear from apple-grower and cider-maker, Eric Schatt, as well as operations coordinator at Turtle Tree Seed, Jordan Walker, about the mysterious practice of biodynamics. Let’s go bury some cow skulls down by the river! 

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This week, we bring you a report about how migrant children separated from their families at the US border are being housed and fed. Do they have enough to eat, and are the foods provided safe and culturally appropriate? We speak to Rachel Merker, director of Policy and Research at First Focus, a bipartisan advocacy organization dedicated to making children and families the priority in federal policy and budget decisions.

Because our theme is youth, we turn the mic over to our two summer interns, both recent high school graduates. Mary Margaret McCartney reports on recent efforts to modernize home economics classes and Victoria Harvey looked into an organization ensuring that free summer meals for kids are just a text message away.

We also hear from a teen chef who's talked his way into working in some of New York City's top kitchens, including Ramen Lab and the recently shuttered Momofuku Ma Peche. He's got 61,000 instagram followers, and big plans for the future.

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Over the summer, consumers called out food companies for racist imagery, names, and political positions. We saw a wave of hashtags, open letters, and boycotts – and in many cases, companies were pressured to make changes. For our season eight opener, we step into the tumultuous landscape of food branding.

Two stories this week focus on how high schoolers are holding brands accountable – from a California teen who launched a boycott on Trader Joe’s to a group of students who stood up to Goya’s CEO after he praised President Trump. Then, we hear from companies who are carefully considering their brand and public image in a time when consumers are more tuned in than ever before, and aren’t afraid to call out problematic marketing.

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Trade is innately human. Whether it’s baseball cards, lunchbox items or recipes, people have been exchanging goods, services, practices, and ideas since prehistoric times. Driven by curiosity and power, or most commonly money, trade has created the modern, globalized world we know today. To better understand the past, present, and future of trade’s huge web of interconnectivity, we’re traveling back in time with Meat and Three’s first ever 4-part mini-series. 

We first look at history's most significant trade route: The Silk Road. We explore how the expansive caravan and maritime routes marked the first period of vast global interchange with Najmieh Batmanglij. We then dig into economics with Don Boudreaux to explain the implications of free trade and some central characteristics of our current globalized model. 

And don’t forget to stick around for the next three episodes as we take a deeper dive into the ingredients that make these routes so delicious. Subscribe to Meat and Three on your favorite podcast app.

Further Reading:

Get your own copy of “Silk Road Cooking: A Vegetarian Journey” by Najmieh Batmanglij here

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Does place affect who we are? From the edible schoolyards of the west coast, to the soul food of the south, we’re taking you on a journey to find out what shapes identity. How do we relate to the food and space around us? What traditions will we carry into the future? Come with us to explore the HRN archives, and discover what makes us, well, us.

Further Reading:

Listen to Adrian Miller’s interview here

Learn more about American food on A Taste of the Past  here

Listen to the full interview with Alice Waters on Inside Julia’s Kitchen here.

Explore Heart and Soul Food: A Celebration of Black Women here

Find Paulo Shin’s conversation about BBQ here

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Taylor Graham, Bean Metcalf, Jessie Nicely, Hieu Huynh, and Kia Damon.

Our lead producers on this episode were Bean Metcalf and Jessie Nicely, with support from Kia Damon and Taylor Graham.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode was Sam Gerardi.

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This week we take a break from our series on trade to present one of HRN's newest shows, Let's Talk About Food. Hosted by Louisa Kasdon, LTAF is a live storytelling event; because everyone has a food story. From our first mouthful of applesauce in front of​ ​our adoring family, to our first bite into a jalapeño pepper, and everything in between, food is at the heart of the human experience. We love it. We need it. Food is family and ritual. Fun and work. Sophistication and guilty pleasure, scarcity and overabundance. Food makes us ecstatic and sometimes crazy. Food delights and disappoints. Can you think of a connector that binds us together more universally or seamlessly than our shared relationships with food? That’s what we do in this podcast: Share entertaining, evocative, celebratory, complicated and funny food stories. 

Lydia Shire - How much do I want this recipe?

Lydia Shire is simply one of the country’s leading chefs. Named to every high honor in the culinary world, including becoming the first female executive chef at a Four Season’s Hotel. Lydia began cooking in Boston at 21, as a young divorced mother with three small children. Her story of her drive, ingenuity and skill is inspirational, allowing her to rise to become one of the first female Executive Chef at a Four Seasons hotel, and launching numerous restaurants in her hometown, Boston including Scampo where she shares the executive chef honors with her son. For more about Lydia Shire, visit www.scampoboston.com

Annie Copps - Singles Awareness Day

"Valentine’s Day can be a real clunker for a single person. Twenty years ago I made the mistake of going out for Sunday brunch the morning after Valentine’s Day. You’ve heard of a marijuana haze? This was a post-coital haze. Everyone else in the restaurant had just rolled out of bed with their partner. That’s when I decided to start Singles Awareness Day."

Annie is a chef, cook author, writer, cooking teacher and TV and radio personality. In addition to cooking at many restaurants, she has been the food editor of Boston Magazine and Yankee Magazine. To learn more about the irrepressible Annie Copps, visit www.intellibelly.net

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Come along for a food (policy) tour of HRN’s home city and state of New York. We speak to a local Queens business owner about how to-go cocktails saved his business during the pandemic and we’re introduced to an organization that’s helping street vendors bounce back from their financial losses. We hear from residents from the Big Apple who are hoping that curbside composting comes to their neighborhood. Plus, we talk with a professor at Cornell University, whose research on soil health and climate smart farming educated lawmakers to pass the New York State’s Soil Health and Climate Act. 

Further Reading:

To learn more about the new to-go cocktail policy, check out EaterNY’s full report here.  

If you were intrigued by Mojitos Restaurants 20 different mojito flavors here’s their website and they’re located on the corner of Northern Boulevard and 81st Street in Jackson Heights, Queens, NY. 

Read about the legislation Intro 1116-B here. 

Explore the work of the Street Vendor Project here.

Find a GrowNYC Food Scrap Drop-Off near you here.

To learn more about efforts to improve New York State’s Soil Health, check out https://www.newyorksoilhealth.org/.

Learn more about the role that farms can play in climate change mitigation with HRN’s new podcast No Farms No Future from the American Farmland Trust.

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As the looming threat of the climate crisis worsens and the world continues to endure the devastation of Covid-19, industries across the globe have had to pivot. ‘Pivot’ entered our daily vernacular during the onset of the pandemic, but discussions around efficiency and equity continually deepen and evolve. This week on Meat and Three we’re resurfacing conversations that rethink our food system, reimagine hospitality, and aim to rebuild the restaurant industry. Plus, we look at the rebirth of bar pizza!

Further Reading and Listening:

Read Joe Fassler’s article about regenerative agriculture for The Counter here.

Inside Julia’s Kitchen: This episode featured Episode 134: Meet Nina Compton. Follow Inside Julia’s Kitchen wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

U Look Hungry: This episode featured Episode 59: Rebuilding After the Hurricane with Donald Link. Listen to more from the archived show U Look Hungry on HRN’s website.

Opening Soon: This episode featured Episode 82: A New Kind of Hospitality Community Space with Libby Willis of KIT. Follow Opening Soon wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS) 

The Big Food Question: This episode featured Episode 44: What is Regenerative Agriculture, Really? Follow The Big Food Question wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcast | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

Pizza Quest: This episode featured Episode 12: The Pizza Yodis Return with Adam Kuban to Make Bar Pizza. Follow Pizza Quest wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcast | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

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What obligations do we have to the foodways we’ve inherited? As whole ways of life go extinct in the face of globalization and modern technology, what do we save, and why? Our reporters seek out the protectors of tiny taters, bacterial breads, and Aztec agriculture to understand how the past informs our present.

Further Reading:

Listen to the full episode of Dyed Green with Dan Saladino and Sally Barnes here, and check out his book, Eating to Extinction: The World’s Rarest Foods and Why We Need to Save Them.

Learn more about Susan Ray Brown’s Salt Rising Bread Project here, and read Dan Wharton’s cookbook and memoir, Taming the Wild Yeast.

If you’d like to visit the chinampas in Mexico City, visit https://hechoenxochimilco.com/ to plan a tour with Rafah.

Want to learn more about the Four Corners Potato? Check out this article in Archeology Magazine. 

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Sophia Hooper, Jessica Gingrich, Addison Austin-Lou, and Sam Gerardi

Our lead producers on this episode were Sophia Hooper and Jessica Gingrich, with support from Hannah Chouinard

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode was H Conley.

Photo Credit: Jessica Gingrich, Xochimilco 2019

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Frankfurter, wiener, glizzy, hot dog - whatever you call it - the food is a global staple and has become an American icon. It’s time to celebrate National Hot Dog Month on Meat and Three! While the tubed food is pervasive throughout the rest of the world, it is a multi-billion dollar industry in America. Whether hot dogs are kosher or vegan, hailing from Coney Island or Chicago, we’ll take a look at their history and how they are made and consumed today. Travel back all the way to the stone age, get an education from Hot Dog University, and even take a trip to a hot dog factory floor!

Further Reading:

Bruce Kraig is an emeritus professor of history at Roosevelt University in Chicago and the author of two books on hot dog history: Hot Dog: A Global History, and Man Bites Dog: Hot Dog Culture in America.

Read Frederick Kaufman’s book, A Short History of the American Stomach and his wonderful articles: The Secret Ingredient about kosher food and Fat of the Land about hot dogs. 

John Carruthers is a journalist, cook, and hot dog connoisseur. You can read his books Eat Street and ManBQue.

Grab a bite at Grilled on Suydam street in Bushwick, or grab a booth at Abe’s Pagoda for your next night out.

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Meet four more HRN Hall of Fame inductees – they're all writers who have changed the way we talk about food. We take a look at the journeys that shaped their literary voices, explore the culinary landscape they work with, and examine the transformative effect their work has had on what we eat and where it comes from.

The name Michael Pollan is synonymous with books which have inspired millions to think and eat differently. It’s no surprise he joins our Hall of Fame with best-selling classics like The Omnivore’s Dilemma and The Botany of Desire. Dr. Temple Grandin is the author of more than a dozen books. By redesigning the process for handling animals in meatpacking plants and slaughterhouses, she’s probably eased the suffering of more animals than any person in history. Elizabeth Andoh, who has appeared on HRN eight times over the last four years, is the author of six books on Japanese cooking, including two IACP award-winners, An Ocean of Flavor and Washoku. And finally, former HRN host, Jessica B. Harris is a foremost scholar on the food and foodways of the African Diaspora. She is the author of twelve critically acclaimed cookbooks documenting African American food and food culture.

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Food insecurity impacts millions, but communities are rising to meet the challenge – especially in a climate where many are unsure if there will be continued federal aid for relief programs. This episode of Meat and Three dives into the innovative and compassionate efforts reshaping food access in Chicago, Oregon, and Texas. From traditional food pantries to mutual aid programs, we spotlight organizations providing holistic care for our neighbors in need.

Further Reading:

Don’t forget to sign up for our Weekly HRN Newsletter to get all the latest news from our storytelling communities. Sign up is at the bottom of our homepage!

Read more about the Black Panther Party’s Free School Breakfast program here. 

Check out Ravenswood Community Services and the work they do. If you are interested in volunteering for their Tuesday night pantry, Saturday pantry, community kitchen, or after school pantry, please sign up.

What to learn more about the Greater Chicago Food Depository? Visit their site to learn about all their programs and efforts across Chicagoland. 

Get more information on Greater Chicago Food Depository’s Retail Food Rescue Program.

VeggiesRx is a program supported by the Chicago Botanic Garden and Lawndale Christian Center. To learn more about the Farm on Ogden and other programs on site. 

Learn more about the USDA’s GusNIP grant program! 

The Farmer’s Market fund can be found here.

Can you double your spending power at the farmers’ market? Check out Double Up Food Bucks.

Want to support your local Food Not Bombs? Find your nearest one here, and see what the Laredo Food not Bombs is up to on instagram. 
 

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Ash Tyler, Bean Metcalf, and Zariel Grullón.

Our lead producer on this episode was Ash Tyler, with support from Maya Okindo, Hieu Huynh, Jessie Nicley, and Kiki Canuto.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode was Sam Gerardi.

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A dessert with many names, baked and shared around the world, the King Cake is most recognized in the U.S. for its relationship with Mardi Gras. This week on a bonus episode of Meat and Three, we learn more about its origins, and treat ourselves to the decadent King Cake, not once, but twice. 

The HRN team overnights one directly from Randazzo in New Orleans and then learns how to make our own with Jake Cohen in The FeedFeed Test Kitchen. Lastly we hear from Chef John Caluda who has been making King Cakes since the '90s.

This week, we’re exploring the creative strides being taken — both on the large-scale and individual-level — to avoid excess waste. Alicia Qian visits a driveway in San Jose, California that has become a hub for stocking up on vegetables and restoring community. Then, Tash Kimmell heads to Oakland, where a grocery store and cafe is using a circular economy model to promote sustainable shopping. In Brooklyn, Matan Dubnikov and Karina Peña-Andreatos explore how one restaurant created local partnerships to offset their food waste. And finally, we tune into a segment of Time for Lunch, to how to preserve vegetables with an easy pickling recipe. 

Further Reading:

Learn more about the Midwest Center for Investigative Reporting’s recent findings on consumerism and food waste here. 

Vinder is a marketplace that connects local food artisans direct to local consumers. The model is like Etsy meets Ubereats, but for hyperlocal food. To learn more about Sam Lillie and Vinder, visit their site here.

To learn more about zero-waste grocery shopping, visit MudLab’s site. 

Stay connected to Lighthouse through their website and Instagram, or visit the restaurant in Brooklyn or Nolita. 

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When we first began reporting this episode, we wanted to tell stories about foods, drinks, and experiences that fall outside what is typically considered “authentic.” We coined the term “purposefully IN-authentic” and ran with it until we couldn’t run any further. What we found instead is that choosing the road less traveled because it is the road that feels most true, might be the most exemplary form of authenticity. From entire cuisines, to community practices, to individual choices, to specific places (uh-um, Margaritaville), this episode celebrates a new definition of authenticity: commitment, genuineness and unabashed ingenuity. 

Further Reading:

Listen to Meat and Three Episode 192, Identity Crisis: Authenticity in a Changing Food Landscape, to hear this season’s initial discussion about the effects of narratives of authenticity in our foodways. 

For more from Dr. Alex Orquiza, check out his book, The Taste of Control.

Learn more about Pepper and Two Mamas Farm. 

Find out more about Yuna Asriyan and the non-alcoholic brands that she works with, like Prima Pavé, Feragaia, and Pathfinder at the Catchall Collective. 

Listen to Yuna delve deeper into the value and psychology involved in the non-alcoholic space on this episode of the HRN show The Speakeasy. 

For a deeper look into Margaritaville in Times Square, read this Eater article. 

Find Susan Sontag’s Notes on Camp, here. 

Credits: 

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Sam Gerardi, Hannah Chouinard, Elizabeth Fisher, and Jessica Gingrich. 

Our lead producer on this episode was Elizabeth Fisher, with support from Jessica Gingrich.

Meat and Three is produced by Taylor Early and H Conley.

Our audio engineer for this episode is Armen Spendjian.

Our theme song was composed by Breakmaster Cylinder.

This program is supported, in part, by public funds from the New York City Department of Cultural Affairs, in partnership with the City Council.

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Ramadan, the holy Islamic month where Muslims around the world abstain from food and drink (among other things) began this week. Just like virtually everything else, it’s being impacted by the coronavirus pandemic. In this episode, Danya AbdelHameid talks to Leila, Anum, and Nyuma, three twenty-something Muslims living in Maryland, Florida, and New Jersey, respectively, about their Ramadan traditions and how they're navigating Ramadan in quarantine.

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So far, our series on global trade has focused on ingredients that are either sweet or spicy, and that shaped international trade routes. As our stories make clear, there are ups and downs when talking about the globalization of our foodways. So this week, we go from sugar and spice to bites! We’re going to talk about the role that animals have played in the history of the food trade. Then, we have two stories about bite-sized foods with global footprints.

Note: This series started with episode 100, From the Silk Road to a Globalized World: An Introduction to Trade, and we recommend starting there if you’re just tuning in!

Further Reading:

Marilyn Noble’s Roundtable on Coronavirus and Meat Consumption for The Counter

The Economic Impact of Black Death

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This entire year has been one huge change after another, forcing us all to take a deeper look at how we used to live and wonder what the future holds. Our stories this week explore how society is rapidly changing before our eyes.

Dylan Heuer looks at how Covid-19 is affecting the way mothers balance work and life. An excerpt from HRN’s Queer the Table featuring Soleil Ho shows how assumptions about the audience for food writing and restaurant reviews are being upended. Alicia Qian ponders pumpkin spice and the implications that come with such “basic” trends. Armen Spendjian brings us a report on how UT Austin’s campus dining program has changed for the Fall semester. 

Further Listening/Reading:

Listen to episode 15 of The Big Food Question: How can Growing Your Own Food Address Issues of Food Sovereignty and Access?

Read more from Katherine Goldstein about bailing out American mothers here and anti-mom bias in the workplace here, plus listen to The Double Shift wherever you get your podcasts. 

Listen to episode 15 of Queer The Table - A New Kind of Restaurant Critic: Soleil Ho

Preorder Jaya Saxena’s new book, Crystal Clear: Reflections on Extraordinary Talismans for Everyday Life here.

Listen to episode 87 of Meat and Three - School Lunch in the Age of Social Distancing

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This week, on Meat and Three, we’re revisiting our kitchen joys, to bring a bit of levity to life during lockdown. While we’re witnessing an explosion of quarantine-friendly food trends, many are also experiencing fatigue from all the time spent in the kitchen. We’ll explore a few ways to introduce greater joy into your culinary routines, learn how to master the “quarantini,” hear how some cooks are combining food with an outdoor adventure, and discover how food media is keeping up with the demand to produce more recipes than ever.

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This week is all about changemakers: members of the HRN Hall of Fame who are challenging the way we think about food. Journalist Maryn McKenna tells us about the history of chicken production in the United States – from the overreaching effects of antibiotics on the industry, to the frenzy over the launch of Popeye’s fried chicken sandwich. Continuing on the poultry theme, Raj Patel, author of A History of the World in Seven Cheap Things, talks about how poultry companies exploit cheap labor through the guise of addiction treatment.

For our last two segments, we hear from Hall of Famers whose work supports communities they care about, locally and abroad. Ysanet Batista explains the origins of Woke Foods, a cooperative that is “revolutionizing diets by making plant-based food accessible, irresistible, and rooted in the lands of our ancestors.” Lou Bank speaks about turning his love of agave into S.A.C.R.E.D., an organization improving the quality of life in rural Mexico.

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The bacon egg and cheese has long been a staple in New Yorkers' diets. A bodega classic, the BEC is cheap, portable, and delicious. The breakfast sandwich, typically wrapped in wax paper and foil, is an unlikely candidate for upscaling. Yet, in the last several years, it has started to pop up on the menus of the city’s trendiest eateries. This week, we’re taking a look into the bacon egg and cheese’s newfound high-end status. Julia Press follows the sandwich from a midtown food cart to a downtown Mediterranean eatery, to learn why it’s inspired so many creative iterations.

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Some foods are forbidden due to special diets, policies, or cultural stigmas. What do these taboos say about us and the way we eat? We've got stories about black rice, cutting carbs, the intersection of roast duck and government policy, and human milk. We try to understand the effects of forbidding foods and what happens when people consume them anyway.

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It’s officially spring which means it’s time to swap out the winter blues for some color. This week on Meat and Three we are deep diving into our closet of archives and dusting off some stories to welcome in the season of new beginnings. From spring delicacies, to cooking with flowers, to Ramadan and more, we are bringing you a unique collection of topics that encapsulates the essence of spring renewal and tradition. 

Join us on April 12th for the second installment of our spring live event series with a panel on “Foraging Like a Local” at Farm to People in Bushwick, Brooklyn. Dana Cowin, host of HRN's Speaking Broadly, will be joined by Melissa Metrick, host of HRN's Fields, to talk about exciting ways to see, taste and experience the natural world whether among the concrete or the trees. For more information or to reserve tickets go to heritageradionetwork.org/eventseries.

Further Reading:

Each story from this week was pulled from a different series on HRN. Click the links below if you want to hear the full pieces.

"Beware the Easter Bunny Industrial Complex!"- A Springisode | Life's a Banquet

Blowfish & Other Spring Delicacies in Southern Japan ⎸ Heritage Radio Network On Tour

Cooking with Flowers | Cooking in Mexican From A to Z

Cover Crops for Improved Soil and Water | No Farms No Future

Fasting and Feasting in Quarantine ｜Meat and Three

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In need of an end of summer refresh? Us too. Join us as we dive into the cool waters of history, which we’ve spiked with rum for the occasion. We’ll explore the surprising chronicle of the Mojito through the past lives of its ingredients and their vital mixture. Cheers!

Further Reading:

Discover Rob’s comprehensive guide to rum at Rob’s Rum Guide.

Learn about Tristan Donovan’s work on Fizz and more here. 

Find Ian Williams’s book, Rum: A Social and Sociable History of the Real Spirit of 1776 here.

For more cocktail content check out Greg Benson on Back Bar or The Speakeasy.

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On this very special bonus episode of Meat and Three, we hear from our 2024 Julia Child Foundation Writing Fellow Loan Ngyuen, and get a glimpse into the new show she has spent the last 6 months developing. Nourishing Change dives into the story of three generations behind the longest running vegan restaurant in Philadelphia, as well as Loan’s own story with veganism. In this pilot episode, Loan touches on themes of cultural food access, community health and vegan soul food.

Further reading:

Keep up with Loan’s adventures beyond HRN here and here!

Next time you're in Philly, stop by the Nile Cafe!

Check out Loan's Vegan Cheesesteak Food Tour Map!

For more on why Nonwhite Americans are eating less meat, take a look at this article from NPR.

Learn more about vegan/vegetarian cheesesteaks at the links below:

• Basic 4 Café thrives for decades at the Terminal
• Philly Vegan History Walking Tour 
• r/PhiladelphiaEats recent recommendations for vegan cheesesteaks
• A redditor's recipe for a vegan Philly cheesesteak

Here's the list of restaurants, non profits, urban farms, and food distributors Loan spoke with. All of these make up just a part of the Philly food system:

• Nile Cafe
• Philly Vegan Society
• Philly Share Food Program
• Philly Orchard Project
• Drexel Innovation Food Lab
• Ruben, Alex, Melissa, Tevon, Juliana
• Weavers Way Food Coop- Germantown
• Germantown Community Fridge
• Philly Food Not Bombs
• Vetri Community Partnership
• City of Philadelphia Dept. of Health
• City of Philadelphia Dept. of Parks and Recreation
• Miss Rachel’s
• Pietramala
• Tomo Sushi
• Tattooed Mom’s
• Pandemic Pantry
• Vietlead Resilient Roots Farm
• Dirtbaby Farms
• The Community Grocer
• Philadelphia Wholesale Produce Market

This bonus episode of Meat and Three was developed, researched, lead produced, and reported by our 2024 Julia Child Foundation Writing Fellow Loan Nguyen.

H and Taylor were honored to support Loan through the stewarding of this story development.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

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Coming clean. Opening up. Seeing right through. Today, we’re talking all things transparent in the food world. From restaurateurs shaking things up with radical financial disclosure, to an enchanting clear dessert, our stories today explore the many meanings of transparency. What can we learn when we’ve got nothing to hide?

Further Reading and Listening:

You can learn more about Irene Li’s latest venture, Prepshift, which aims to improve transparency around restaurant hiring, training, and regulatory compliance here! You can also find more information there about bringing open book management to restaurants. And there’s always Mei Mei Dumplings.

Listen to What Doesn’t Kill You episode 194: What Is Really In That Packaging? Mike Schade Reviews the State of Food Packaging and How It Affects Our Health and the Environment.

Find out how your favorite retailers rank on the toxic chemical Report Card on the Safer Chemicals Happy Families Website. 

To learn more about raindrop cakes and their history here  or here …or  here or here!

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This week on Meat and Three we explore all things tangy, sour, and sharp in an episode about acid. We look at how one bar is finding creative ways to stop wasting citrus. Then we hear from an HRN host who travelled the world to learn about vinegar and we experiment with reducing acidity in coffee. We also continue our conversation about grog, jumping from the 18th century to the present day to discover some refreshing cocktail recipes. 

Further reading and listening:

If you’re in NYC, take a trip to Pouring Ribbons to try out their cocktails. You can also make your own citrus stock.

Hear more from Michael Harlan Turkell on episode 110 of Japan Eats! Subscribe to Japan Eats!  on your favorite podcast platform and never miss an episode!  (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS). 

Plus hear more from Michael Harlan Turkell on his HRN podcasts The Food Seen and Modernist Breadcrumbs. And check out his book “Acid Trip: Travels in the World of Vinegar.

Enjoy these Low-acid coffee recommendations.

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This week, we explore happy accidents: the unexpected, serendipitous moments that we don’t plan for and don’t often see coming. These happenstance occurrences shaped the food world by leading the way for new foods, new ways of cooking, and new careers. 

We have stories about the spontaneous fermentation of lambic beers, the microwave’s origin story, the career trajectory of bartender Sother Teague, and the mistake that led to the creation of America’s favorite breakfast cereal.

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In episode 3 of Rice Revelations, Producer Sasha DuBose (they/she) takes us into the kitchen to make bread. Sasha’s bread baking experience makes the historical knowledge she learned in the previous two episodes become tangible. As they’re in the kitchen convening with the ancestors and saying “chile” more times than anyone could count, she hopes that listeners feel inspired to find themselves in their ancestral foods, whatever that may mean for them.

Rice Revelations was conceptualized and produced by Sasha DuBose. You also heard from the beloved Taylor Early at the top of the episode.

The Rice Revelations Logo is designed by Sasha’s sister, Kennedy DuBose.

Craving your own slice of Carolina Gold Rice Bread? Check out Anson Mills’ recipe here. 

Learn more about the history of rice bread and how some Southern bakers are bringing it back here.

Learn more about the legacy of African American bakers here.

Sasha’s okra stew recipe can be found here

From the Pantry is a limited series developed by HRN’s Director of Education and Creative Development Taylor Early, focusing on illuminating HRN’s two-fold mission of educating community members in response to a changing world and cultivating the next generation of food media leaders. This series is made up of four narrative arcs researched, scripted, and produced by one of alumni fellows. Each fellow pulled concepts, ideas and conversations from HRN’s archive (the pantry) and created stories that explore the personal significance and broader cultural meaning of what they found.

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One month down, eleven to go! Statistically, you’ve probably broken your resolution by now, so what better time to investigate why those new year diets never stick? This week, we bring you stories of how food is set to change in 2019. Eater’s Ryan Sutton shares his restaurant trends predictions (hint: a focus on regional Chinese cuisines). If you live in New York City, expect to see a change in street meat containers this year. The city has banned styrofoam! It’s great news for the environment, yet a costly transition for vendors. Finally, 2019 is bringing technological advances that could (literally) change the flavors of our food. We hear from scientists working to develop a spicy tomato using gene editing (also known as Crispr).

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Valentine’s Day traditions are all about showing love to those closest to us. Whether you’re a romantic or a cynic, the holiday is inescapable and it is difficult to keep from indulging in one way or another.

Our stories this week dig into some hard truths associated with Valentine’s rituals. Kevin Chang Barnum tells about the anxieties within the dairy industry. Ruby Walsh speaks to Tasha Marks, food historian and artist, about the legacy of the sugar sculpture. Jess Krainchich provides some hope in an interview with ethical chocolate company Fine and Raw. And finally, Kat Johnson travels to Alabama to bring us a story of an unusual delicacy: deer heart tartare.

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As the seasons come and go, we bear witness to the growth and decay that happens in the environment around us. And currently in the Northern Hemisphere, the leaves have fallen, and the days are shorter and colder as Winter Solstice approaches. This week on Meat and Three, we’re examining the many processes of decay, from the natural decay within landfills and compost, to the manufactured decay of infrastructure and industry.

Further Reading:

For more on Scott Kellogg’s work, check out Episode 13 of Fields.  

If you would like to hear the full episode behind Matthew Martin’s story, head to Episode 49 of the Big Food Question. 

Learn more about The Oakland Institute's research on Episode 361 of What Doesn’t Kill You. 

Find the unabridged conversation between Jenna Liut and Ev Crunden in Episode 157 of Eating Matters.

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This week on Meat and Three, we are examining what happens the moment the check arrives. We hear about the lived experience of being a tipped worker before turning to academics and advocates to explain the history and politics of tipping. Then, we talk to an expert on pay-what-you-can restaurants on the role of such establishments in the fight against food insecurity. Oftentimes, the ways we pay for our food goes unquestioned yet these guests prompt us to reimagine paying for our meals to better support the dignity of workers and eaters alike. This week teaches us that a few dollars can make a big difference. Join us next week to talk about big money as we explore the role of banking and finance in the food industry. 

Further Reading:

Saru Jayaraman is the President of One Fair Wage and the Director of the Food Labor Research Center at University California Berkeley. 

Listen to Shiftwork by the Restaurant Workers’ Community Foundation on Heritage Radio Network

You can read more about the history of tipping and its origins in the Reconstruction period here. Learn more about Restaurant Workers United on their website or on twitter @restaurauntwrkrs. 

You can follow the work of One World Everybody Eats at their website. Look for the “Find A Cafe” tab to see if there is a pay-what-you-can cafe near you. Check Taste Community Restaurant in Fort Worth Texas.

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It’s a new year, and with it comes new bites, new recipes, and, for many, new meal prep. While this practice is designed to make life easier, there are a few obstacles that you might encounter when preparing meals ahead of time.. Tune in to this week’s episode of Meat and Three as we discuss the realities of meal prepping, including struggles the very real struggles of making a meal for a family of five, finding specific ingredients in a cultural food desert, and cooking with ADHD.
 

Further Reading:

To read more about women’s unpaid labor, you can find The New York Times article here.

Learn more about Hieu’s journey for pork belly here. 

Visit Zariel Grullón’s website to learn more about their work and wellness journey.

For a better solution to managing food waste at home, check out Mill—the odorless food recycler. 

Visit the Atwater Village Farmers Market the next time you’re in Los Angeles! 

Get all the latest tricks and tips in eco-friendly and sustainable living with the Commons app. 

This episode of Meat and Three was reported by Taylor Graham, Hieu Huynh, Jessie Nicely, and Kiki Canuto.

Our lead producer on this episode was Taylor Graham, with support from H Conley, Kiki Canuto, Ash Tyler, Maya Okindo, Bean Metcalf, and Jessie Nicely.

Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

Our audio engineer for this episode was Sam Gerardi.
 

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Heritage Radio Scholars offers high school students the opportunity to learn audio reporting techniques while discovering how food shapes the world around them. The program empowers young girls to connect with their culture, community, and themselves through food — all while honing their storytelling skills. HRN collaborated in Fall of 2024 with The Lower East Side Girls Club to create the Love Letters to the LES Girls Podcast through our newest iteration of the Heritage Radio Scholars Flavor and Folklore, a 10-week after school high school program serving the girls and femmes of the LES Girls Club. 

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club is exactly what it sounds like. HRN’s Digital Media Educator Sasha DuBose shares her experiences teaching the food storytelling course of their dreams. Combined with anecdotes from the girls she taught, the Love Letters Podcast highlights just how special this program was for everyone involved. The podcast series premieres February 14th, so expect something in the mail!

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club was reported by the LESGC Flavor and Folklore Members Kiyerra Braveboy, Astan Kaba, Shayla James, Amelia Rodriguez, Symone Carre, Noni Johnson, Imani Hughes, Rae McGee, and Melissa Gregory, with support from Santanah Thomas. 

Love Letters to the LES Girls Club is produced by Sasha DuBose and Taylor Early.  

Our audio engineer is Sam Gerardi.

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Check out more information about HRN’s storytelling education programming (updates coming soon!) here.

On January 31st, the United Kingdom officially withdrew from the European Union. As Britain leaps into the unknown, it leaves its population in anxious anticipation of the nation’s future. At first, this seismic shift in global politics may feel abstract. After all, most Britons resumed their usual routines on February 1st. But, slowly, citizens will see the consequences of Brexit - and, in all likelihood, food will be the first place that people will begin to notice changes. We talked to experts to find out how Brexit is shifting what the UK will eat and drink in the future.

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With summer on the horizon, we’re revisiting one of our all-time favorite stories! Harry Rosenblum, host of Feast Yr Ears shares the history of lemonade stands and enlists his daughter, Moxie, to provide some invaluable operational advice. Plus, HRN board member and resident accountant JoAnn “Flash” Fleming has financial tips for all you lemonade entrepreneurs.

Why are we rerunning this story now? Believe it or not, running a lemonade stand in New York without a permit is a fineable offense. Last year, the health department shut down a 7-year-old’s roadside operation for failing to pony up the $30 for a year-long permit. This caught the attention of state senator Jim Tedesco, who is now sponsoring a bill dubbed “Brendan’s Lemon-Aid Law” – named after the boy whose stand was shut down.

Last week, the bill was passed by the Senate Health Committee with bipartisan support. It now awaits further committee review in both the state Senate and Assembly before heading to Governor Cuomo’s desk for his signature. If passed, the law would take effect immediately and exempt kids 16 and under from paying a $30 yearlong permit fee to run a lemonade stand.

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Today we feature episode 1 of HRN's newest show, Agave Road Trip. Agave Road Trip provides gringo bartenders with firsthand knowledge about heritage agave spirits from Mexico, including mezcal, raicilla, bacanora, and destilado de agave. 

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In March, HRN began producing all of our 35 weekly shows from our homes all around the country. It was hard work stepping away from our little recording studio, but we know that you rely on HRN to share resources and important stories from the world of food each week. It’s been a tough year for all of us, but right now HRN is asking for your help. Every dollar that listeners give to HRN provides essential support to keep our mics on. We've got some fresh new thank you gifts available, like our limited edition bandanas.

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At its core, food is fuel. Every living organism on earth relies upon some form of sustenance to get through the day. Today, humans have a very different relationship to food than past generations. On top of having access to virtually any food we desire, our understanding of nutrition has greatly expanded.

In the olden days, it was normal for professional athletes to eat steaks and drink beers before their games. Now there's dozens of diets and nutritional ideologies wrapped up in the sports world. With all this information, the new question becomes: what information should we trust? We talked to all different types of athletes and several nutrition experts this week to find out the myriad ways that food is used to enhance physical fitness and performance.

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We know and take for granted that foods will look and feel like we expect them to. So it’s especially disorienting when food doesn’t give us that anticipated sensory experience. This week, we’re looking at food that is not as it seems. We’re peeling back the layers of texture, taste and technique that help some foods imitate others. First, we’ll savor the layered and whimsical field of artificial fruit flavoring. We’ll watch as food deceives, in the sinister world of olive oil fraud. And when it duplicates, like the food that’s stamped out of a 3D printer. Finally, we’ll consider some of the ethical choices facing the emerging meat substitute industry, which risks reproducing the same inequalities as “real” meat production.

Further Reading:

Browse the catalogue or reach out to Joshua Cobos through Dolce Foglia’s website.

For more on artificial flavoring, from blue raspberry to snacking, follow Dr. Nadia Berenstein’s work on her website, or follow her on Twitter.

To learn more about the 3D printed food projects at BeeHex, check out their website here.

For more info on the cell-based meat industry, check out episode 7 of Fields and subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

To hear Beatrice Ughi’s full conversation on A Taste of the Past, listen to episode 362 wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS).

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Exclusivity and inclusion can greatly influence our relationships with food, and even create fanatic communities around certain food brands. But we’ve been wondering, what’s the line between what’s trendy and cult-y? We take a hard look at that question and how it plays out in our consumption today. Plus we discover some surprising connections between familiar food brands and fringe religious groups and far-fetched beliefs about health, wellness, and nutrition. 

Further Reading and Listening:

Interested in learning more about the Rancho Gordo Bean Club? Check out their website.

Carlnita Greene, Tina Sikka and Leighann Chaffee all contributed chapters to Food Cults: How Fads, Dogma, and Doctrine Influence Diets (2016), a book edited by Dr. Kima Cargill, a professor of psychology at University of Washington whose research focuses on nutrition and overeating.

Learn more about the psychology of eating from Chaffee’s most recent book, co-authored with Stephanie p. da Silva and released in January 2022.

And, read more from Dr. Greene in her book on gluttony and gourmands, or in this volume that she edited on foodscapes.

Learn more about Benjamin Lorr’s work investigating the modern day supermarket in his book, The Secret Life of Groceries and in this article.

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Ever since the sizzling news about Chinese tariffs on pork dropped, we knew we'd have to do a Meat + Three episode about pork. This week's show features a deep dive into the tangled relationship between American soybeans and Chinese pork with help from Bettina Ring, Virginia's Secretary of Agriculture and Forestry, and Loren Puette of ChinaAg.

To build up our strength to tackle such a dense subject, we first visit our friends at Heritage Foods to learn their expert tips for making a next-level BLT with your summer tomato and lettuce bounty (hint: perfect bacon = perfect BLT).

Executive Director Caity Moseman Wadler gets to the bottom of the term "legislative pork" with help from Katy Keiffer of What Doesn't Kill You and Esther Trakinski, a Food/Adjunct Professor at NYU.

Finally, we look into the Fatback Pig Project, a group formed in 2013 that is helping put small-scale pig farmers back to work in Alabama.

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About the episode art: after making some delicious BLTs with the Heritage Foods team, we got creative with the leftover bacon! (And then ate it, of course.) Thanks to Patty Lee and Ben Tansel for their food styling expertise!

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Food sovereignty foregrounds all of our conversations on Meat and Three. If communities are unable to feed themselves freely, safely and sustainably, food cultures can not thrive. From seed banks preserving Indigenous crops, to Israeli control of Palestinian food systems, we kickstart our 16th season by revisiting stories from the Meat and Three archives that center food sovereignty as imperative to maintaining diverse, nourishing food cultures.

Further Reading:

Listen to the full story with Valarie Segrest and Clint Carroll, here. Additionally, listen to Valerie Segrest’s TedTalk all about food sovereignty: tedxseattle.com/talks/food-sovereignty. 

Find the original story Meat and Three episode about Native Seeds/Search here, and check out ways to support and purchase seeds at Native Seeds/SEARCH. Learn more about the Biden-Harris Administration’s National Seed Strategy Keystone Initiative. 

Listen to the original story with Pat Gwin, here, and learn about the present day popularity of the Cherokee Nation Seed Bank. 

Here is the original episode of our final story about seam zones and the history of Israeli occupation in Palestine.  Learn more Palestinian olive harvests here. 

If you’re interested in learning more about Palestinian food sovereignty, check out this list of resources compiled by the land, an Amsterdam-based farming social project. If you are interested in learning more about how you can support relief efforts, check out Gaza Mutual Aid and the different ways you can support their mutual aid on the ground in Gaza. 

This episode was reported by Jessica Gingrich, Sam Gerardi, Addison Austin-Lou, and Hannah Chouinard. Our lead producer on this episode was Elizabeth Fisher, with support from Sophia Hooper. Meat and Three is produced by H Conley and Taylor Early.

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The clothes we wear day in and day out can impact our sense of self-worth, or become a fundamental form of self-expression. From books to online personas to restaurants, we can’t help but cultivate an aesthetic. This episode of Meat and Three is all about what we wear and what it communicates to the world around us. 

Connect with artist Lotte Ooms on instagram or via her website. 

Discover all things Morgan Lynzi on her instagram or her website.

If you want to hear the rest of Christine’s conversation with Dr. Morgaine Gaye, check out episode 439 of HRN on Tour. 

If you want to hear the rest of John’s conversation with Clara Kirkpatrick, or the other 6 episodes in the series, subscribe to Eat Your Words Presents: Saved by the Bellini wherever you get your podcasts.

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This week on HRN we are examining how folks are changing the world of food and how food has always been a part of changing the world. We are traveling through space and time to bring stories of trailblazers and revolutionaries–those who are truly breaking bonds. 

First, we reflect on how the Persian diasporic community is connecting to cuisine in the context of the women-led revolution underway in Iran. We also hear about how a group of women banana workers in Latin America have transformed their unions. Next, we travel to Japan to hear how one sushi chef is carving out space for women in a male-dominated industry. Finally, we hear how a group of Black chefs in the Netherlands feed their community and beyond while raising awareness about the history of enslavement. If you are hungry for inspiration come and listen!

Further Reading:

You can find Dana Frank’s book Bananeras: Women Transforming the Banana Unions of Latin America here. 

You can find Naz Deravian’s cookbook Bottom of the Pot here and read her blog here

Look to Aviva Chomsky’s essay, Globalization, Labor, and Violence in Colombia’s Banana Zone, for further reading.

Check out this interview with Iris Munguia, the lead organizer for the Coordination of Banana Unions in Honduras (COSIBAH). 

You can learn more about Adela Torres, the General Secretary of Colombian agricultural workers union, here.

Learn more about Keti Koti and Arya and Ira Kip’s work here, and check out this video about the unresolved colonial history of the Dutch.

Check out Yuki Chidui’s Instagram here.

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With the first signs of color beginning to emerge on the trees, we’re taking a look at tried and true fall food favorites… and flipping the script. This week on Meat and Three, we’re shaking up your idea of all things autumn. Moving past the notorious pumpkin spice latte, we’ll look at maple syrup’s seasonality, apple flavors that are more than just bottled essence, the transcontinental history of squash and more.

Further Reading:

Let’s Get Real: This episode featured Episode 76: Biting into a Pumpkin Spice Flavored Halloween Hershey’s Kiss Is Worse Than Biting into a Razor Blade. Listen to more from the archived show Let’s Get Real on HRN’s website.

HRN Happy Hour: This episode featured Episode 99: Spice Up Your Soda. Follow HRN Happy Hour wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS) 

Eat Your Heartland Out: This episode featured Episode 18: The Sweetness of Midwestern Maple Season. Follow Eat Your Heartland Out wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS) 

Beer Sessions Radio: This episode featured Episode 566: Cider from the Place of Regenerative Ag and the Case for Reparations in Finger Lakes, NY.  Follow Beer Sessions Radio wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

Cooking in Mexican from A to Z: This episode featured Episode 4: The Triple Bounty of Squashes. Follow Cooking in Mexican from A to Z wherever you get your podcasts. (Apple Podcast | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

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The HRN team is heading down south to South Carolina to attend the Charleston Wine + Food Festival again. In honor of HRN’s return, we’re revisiting some of our favorite moments from the 2020 festival. While two years (and a pandemic) have passed since our last trip to Charleston, these conversations about sustainability, inclusivity, and the joys of eating still resonate. 

Further listening:

Follow Heritage Radio Network on Tour and don’t miss our upcoming interviews from Charleston Wine and Food Festival 2022. (Apple Podcasts | Stitcher | Spotify | RSS)

Plus here are the Heritage Radio Network on Tour episodes you just heard excerpts from: 

-Episode 350: Amy Mills at Charleston Wine + Food 2020

-Episode 359: Glenn Roberts + Brian Ward at Charleston Wine + Food 2020

-Episode 356: Chefs Fatmata Binta and Digby Stridiron at Charleston Wine + Food 2020

-Reem Assil at Charleston Wine + Food 2020

-Episode 337: Eric Asimov at Charleston Wine + Food 2020

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