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09 Feb 2022#100 Andy Orders A New Van!00:25:50

Its harder than ever to get a sweet set of wheels these days but Andy figured it out. Have you! 

Covid has killed the buzz on vehicle buying. Whats our there? Not a whole damn lot that's for sure. Andy takes us thru the quickest way to get a new cargo van during the pandemic. 

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11 Feb 2022#101 How much is too much?00:39:52

The boys discuss a listeners question of how much is too much to charge. 

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16 Feb 2022#102 To train or not to train.00:17:35

Eric and Andy answer a listeners question about training and where to find more information. 

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17 Feb 2022#103 Face tattoos & Chad00:48:35

By request: What's your guys' thoughts on visible tattoos and service techs?

The guys invite Chad back to talk about service workers and face tattoos. The conversation is extended out into the IG universe to hear from some friends in different trades as well. In the end we learn that Andy's nana needs some welding done at her house and Chad is way into Starter hats. Ugh, its a long one lol.

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22 Feb 2022#104 Technical Work Wear00:16:31

Ditch the canvas and denim. There are so many types of work clothing you should be looking into. If you're interested you can use Eric's Truewerk discount code:MECHANICAL15 to save a little bit of dough. Those Carhartt pants, were they your dad's? 

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24 Feb 2022#105 Meeting the challenge00:31:32

Eric and Andy talk about dealing with customers who have houses full of things. 

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01 Mar 2022#106 Bonus Tattoo Discussion00:09:07

Eric and Andy discuss a listeners email. 

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03 Mar 2022#107 The Greatest Journeyman - Rehashed00:42:52

We're looking back on some of our most downloaded episodes this week. Episode #6 "The Greatest Journeyman" is in the top three for listened to by our awesome audience so we thought why not take a look back, see if we could expand on the topic of what it takes to be a great journeyman. 

Or what it takes to be a bad journeyman...either way we hope you enjoy this episode and thanks to everyone from us here at MTGA for listening! 

If you like what you hear from us please smash the subscribe button. If you already subscribe and haven't rated us on your favorite podcast app PLEASE DO! Your rating will help others find us and that helps us all make trades great again!

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08 Mar 2022#108 Bonus - After Hours Calls00:11:45

Eric gets a call in the middle of the night....

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17 Mar 2022#111 Apprentice Pods - Revisited00:48:10

The guys are out this week but we wanted to revisit one of our most downloaded episodes. A year ago Chad joined us as we talked about the next generation of apprentices and how things are changing in the trades. 

Training today's youth has evolved in ways we probably didn't expect. The controversial "Apprentice Pod" concept, first talked about here on the MTGA podcast was introduced by none other than our very own Eric Aune here in this episode! Lol, part two to this train wreck will air next week. We hope you enjoy it again or for the first time, just don't tell Chad he did a good job. 

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22 Mar 2022#112 It's a trap!00:11:11

More after hours talk but this time Andy's custy is trying to buy his loyalty. Would you take the $100? 

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10 Mar 2022#109 Matt Blomquist Build_Learn_Teach00:54:30

Eric and Andy talk with Matt about the the Building Trades program at Taylorville high school in Taylorville, Ill. 

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15 Mar 2022#110 Running for the Benji00:11:18

Andy shares a story of a customer offering up cash to the first tech onsite for an after hours call. 

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24 Mar 2022#113 Apprentice pods, part 2, part duex00:53:02

Part 2 of the Apprentice pods episode from a year ago for you enjoyment while Eric and Andy spend a little time away with family.  Enjoy!

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29 Mar 2022#114 What’s the Tip of the day, To Tip or not to Tip?00:11:26

Eric and Andy chat about getting tips as a mechanical contractor, do you get them and should it be expected?

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31 Mar 2022#115 Calculating your rates00:59:32

How to set your rates, pay yourself and save for the future. 

The guys are regrouping after some family time away from the daily grind. Here is a rerun of one of the most talked about topics in our 100+ episodes. 

There are countless books, videos and experts who can teach this subject, we are not any of those but we have done it ourselves. If you want to listen to a couple small business owners talk about calculating an hourly rate ans what goes into it please give this a listen. 

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05 Apr 2022#116 The boys are back! Bonus00:15:18

The guys are back in the studio (their garages lol) for a bonus episode talking about an email sent in from a listener. 

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08 Apr 2022#117 Story time with Eric & Andy00:42:12

Eric tells a story about an interaction with a contractor recently that brings to light how important timely communication is with customers. 

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14 Apr 2022#119 Getting Paid: Credit Cards!00:38:28

Back to the basics on how to handle the accounting and what to do when taking on credit payments. Eric says raise the prices across the board, Andy has a different take on it. How do you handle credit payments for your business? What are some best practices? The guys talk about this and more. Thanks for listening to the Make Trades Great Again podcast from mechancial-hub.com 

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19 Apr 2022#120 Judge Andy & the 2 amigos00:21:34

Its a show about nothing. Don't tell Larry David, we can't afford to pay for the rights to that tagline. Anyway, Chad joins the guys for this week's bonus episode and per usual there's a lot to unwrap with this one. Thanks for listening, please consider rating us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you stream us. 

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12 Apr 2022#118 Reward Miles00:15:29

Andy and Eric share some tips on using a credit card in business to help offset the costs of travel. 

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21 Apr 2022#121 Making mistakes, making it right.00:42:17

Eric and Andy talk about taking care of the details when a job doesn’t  go right or when things don’t seem to last.

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26 Apr 2022#122 Getting through Lull00:13:06

The boys talk about spring time slow downs in a service business. They discuss a few possible causes and a few ways to get though it all. 

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28 Apr 2022#123 As the world turns w/ Bob Baker00:56:26

The famous Bob Baker of Instagram plumbing fame joins the guys to talk about new and old tech in the plumbing and heating trades. New tools, materials and mindsets for success in business, we hit on it all. Thank Bob, it was fun having you on! 

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03 May 2022#124 Andy will never get the 14 minutes of life back - Bonus00:21:24

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05 May 2022#125 Healthy till you’re not…00:52:41

Eric and Andy discuss a recent health scare and then talk about a few things you can do to be proactive with your health. 

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11 May 2022#126 The Prime Sized Chicken00:21:14

The guys talk a bit about the economy and a few ways a contractor today can help prepare for slower times. 

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12 May 2022#127 The cheapest employee you'll ever hire!00:30:38

Andy gives us the details on the answering service he's been using for a few months and how its changed things for the family business. The guys also talk quite a bit about the management software they've been using and some of the cool features that are making them money right away. 

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17 May 2022#128 Big Brother Bonus!00:11:59

Ever feel like you're being watched? Ever work with your brother? How about for your big brother? Hahaha Eric thought he was gonna have to break up a fight on the job recently so the guys talked about it. 

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19 May 2022#129 Finding the perfect customer00:39:51

Eric and Andy talk about changing tactics and skills offered in search of the perfect customers. Less may be more in this case . 

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24 May 2022#130 It's getting hot in here!00:11:28

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26 May 2022#131 The perfect customer part II00:33:32

We go a ton of messages and feedback on the concept of the "perfect customer", thank you! This week the guys talk more about identifying those times when opportunities come along that just don't fit the direction your business is going. 

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31 May 2022#132 Bonus - Proactive or Reactive?00:11:01

Quick discussion about being reactive or proactive in our day to day. 

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14 Jul 2022#133 Then & Now: What's changed for the better in our trades00:55:05

For the longest time it seemed nothing was advancing in the trades. Same jobs, same materials, same tools...same attitudes. 

This week the guys come back from vacation to talk about one of the most listened to topics on the first 132 episodes: New Technology

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19 Jul 2022#134 Bonus - Who ya gonna call?00:16:11

Ray Parker Jr, is that you? This week Eric is considering finding a mentor, but not just any type of mentor. Listen up to this bonus episode to see what the guys are talking about. 

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28 Jul 2022#137 What it sounds like when doves cry00:35:50

Okay this one takes a turn at the end no one saw coming but first the guys talk about the a few different topics like "flex scheduling" and moving the policies and procedures out of your head and writing them down  so someone could takeover for you in your business. 

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02 Aug 2022#138 Are we really stuck on this 7 to 3:30 thing?00:26:03

Younger generations aren't entering the trades for about a million reasons. Everyone talks about recruiting but rarely about the reason why kids might not want to learn a trade, or work on a construction site...

Maybe we need to look at the rigid work schedule? Maybe there's some wiggle room to be flexible on start times as long as the deadline is met? See what the guys are up to as ERic sets out to make Andy's skin crawl. 

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21 Jul 2022#135 What to Charge revisited Part 100:44:07

We revisit a popular topic from the past, What should I charge for my time?

Eric and Andy dive into the calculation of an hourly rate. Make sure to catch us next week for part 2. 

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26 Jul 2022#136 What to charge part 200:29:24

Part 2 We revisit a popular topic from the past, What should I charge for my time?

Eric and Andy dive into the calculation of an hourly rate. 

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04 Aug 2022#139 Jamie Christensen @northwest_hvac01:04:51

Jamie Christensen @northwest_hvac on IG joins us to talk about growing pains as a new business owner. 

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09 Aug 2022#140 Bonus Clean start00:18:47

Eric and Andy talk about the pitfalls of being busy and neglecting weekly van organization and inspections. 

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11 Aug 2022#141 Troubleshooting and Home Inspections gone wrong00:33:57

The guys mostly retell some stories from recent jobs and site visits with potential new customers. The way the housing market is lately there's no shortage of stories to tell. 

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16 Aug 2022#142 Bonus: Drive it like you stole it!00:24:10

Everything was fine, Andy reminds us all we are terrible drivers and then suddenly Eric gets into some weird story time tangent. Its just a typical MTGA bonus episode really lol. 

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25 Aug 2022#145 Bruce, are you naked!?00:35:13

The guys shoot the breeze about a variety of things and of course it ends with a story from way back in the early days of plumbing for Eric.  We never thought middle-aged naked apprentices were going to be part of the MTGA podcast but here we are...

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30 Aug 2022#146 Bonus: Shark Week00:17:45

The guys bs and talk streaming. To be honest this is probably the most riveting content on the internet today. You should probably share this with all your friends. You're welcome. 

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18 Aug 2022#143 Whatcha gonna drive?00:41:00

Eric gets excited for his new Aune Plumbing mini truck and Andy talks about playing musical Trucks with some employee changes and new vehicles entering the fleet. 

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23 Aug 2022#144 What? No free estimates?!00:16:59
Eric and Andy talk about changing up the concept of giving a free estimate. Do you charge for estimates on residential work? Have you ever thought that you should be getting paid to give an estimate?

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01 Sep 2022#147 Patrick Finley @commercial_Kitchen_chronicles00:58:13

Eric and Andy shoot the breeze with Patrick Finley of Commercial_Kitchen_Chronicles on IG. 

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06 Sep 2022#148 Bonus Google reviews00:21:32

Eric recalls waking up to find a 1 star review in his Google business profile and tries to figure out how he should reply. 

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08 Sep 2022#149 Online -vs- Local Suppliers?00:37:50

Eric and Andy talk about online vs brick and mortar suppliers. 

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13 Sep 2022#150 Bonus Social media in the workplace00:12:34

The guys chat about employees using social media in the workplace. 

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15 Sep 2022#151 Do the trades pay enough?00:36:12

The guys take listener questions this week and it a doozy! 

Do you think the shortage of workers may be due to the trades not paying enough? Whats enough? Should every trade get paid the same? Heck no! Eric & Andy get right into it on this one, we hope you enjoy and please consider rating the show on Apple Podcasts. #mtga

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20 Sep 2022#152 Bonus - The Electrification of everything00:12:39

Are the types of projects you're working on changing? IS the new energy bill changing peoples idea of how to heat their home for the coming winter? 

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22 Sep 2022#153 Free estimates, just a marketing scheme?00:31:21

Eric brings up free estimates and the guys go into more discussion about why free estimates don't really work out. 

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27 Sep 2022#154 Bonus "Find a contractor listings" Do you use them?00:12:02

Starting out on your own can be hectic and costly. There are some free ways to get listed in your area for potential work. 

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29 Sep 2022#155 Listener questions: How do you get started on the project?00:35:53

Quin writes in asking how we prefer to get started on the job. What do we tackle first, the tough stuff or the low hanging fruit. In either case the project has to get finished but sometimes a clear plan from the start can move things along smoother. 

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04 Oct 2022#156 Bonus: Can heat pumps replace gas heating systems in in the North?00:15:37

The guys get back into the electrification of everything and talk heat pumps. Will they be able to repolace gas furnaces and boilers fully? 

Also, is it slowing down where you're at? 

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06 Oct 2022#157 You're Fired!00:39:01

We answer a listeners question regarding an irritated customer. When do you "fire" the customer, what does it take? The guys discuss some of the in's and out's of letting a customer go. 

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11 Oct 2022#158 Fall is in the air!00:15:56

The boys chat about how they are getting things ready for heating season. 

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13 Oct 2022#159 Pay in the Trades with Chad00:54:41

Andy, Eric & Chad talk more about pay in the trades, personal accountability and making it thru a recession. As usual things start out rough and barely make it thru to the end without offending someone...thanks for joining us Chad. 

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18 Oct 2022#160 Tool Talk!00:19:59

The guys talk tools, new tools, what they're liking lately and whats coming. 

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20 Oct 2022#161 AHR 2023 with Nicole Bush00:45:57

Nicole Bush Communications manager for AHR 2023 joins the boys to talk about the largest Heating Air Condition and Refrigeration Expo in North America.

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25 Oct 2022#162 When to hire an employee?00:15:37

Eric and Andy answer a listeners question about what goes into the decision of hiring an employee or adding another technician. 

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27 Oct 2022#163 I like to watch00:34:33

HVAC OnlyFans, custy watching, I need to concentrate! 

We polled out IG fam asking if they minded the customer watching while servicing/fixing a problem on site.  The answers where what you'd expect...but wait, there's more! You gotta listen to see who thought what and why Andy thinks you should get to know your NASA rocket scientist client. 

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01 Nov 2022#164 Bonus 6-pack of nipples00:10:45

Andy see his first nipple pack in this week's bonus episode.  Things get dicey but there's a lesson to be learned from one of Eric's recent materials order. 

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03 Nov 2022#165 Hurricanes and Supply chains00:35:13

Eric and Andy talk about how natural disasters can affect supply chains in the building trades. 

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08 Nov 2022#166 Handling the dirty work, when to let an employee go.00:10:47

The guys answer a listeners message about the difficult task of letting an employee go, along with some of the hurdles and issues that come up. 

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10 Nov 2022#167 How Do You Get Paid?00:28:06

The guys talk about the many ways to get paid as a contractor. Things have changed over the last handful of years, have you? 

There are like seventy-eleven ways to get paid for your services, how many are you accepting? 

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15 Nov 2022#168 Bonus: Did Andy's Van Get Stolen?00:16:00

You gotta hear this crazy story! Andy's van might've been stolen...we're not sure just yet. 

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17 Nov 2022#169 Do you wanna buy a new tool?00:38:46

Eric and Andy talk about pipe benders, machines and Wiha screwdrivers. 

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22 Nov 2022#170 Bonus - What's your preference, copper or PEX Stub outs?00:15:39

Bonus - Eric and Andy discuss the results of a recent poll about how you like to stub out you water supplies. 

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24 Nov 2022#171 Gas, Electric, Fuel Oil…Which is cheapest?00:40:25

The guys dig deep to compare the true cost of Fuel Oil, Electric, LP and Natural Gas as fuels for heating. 

Thanks to listener Steve for sending in the question: Is it time to get away from fuel oil and move to LP? 

You might be surprised how the fuel costs pencil out.  

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29 Nov 2022#172 Giving customers bad news sucks!00:18:12

Ever have to tell a client their heating or cooling system need replaced? Sure! But have you done it when it was just three years old? 

The guys bs and talk about the week, how its going and whats coming up. 

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01 Dec 2022#173 New tool Flare!00:30:52

Eric recants a problem he recently had with a tool. The guys chat about emerging technology in the tool world. 

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02 Dec 2022#174 Bonus Bonus What about Bob?00:10:05

What about Bob, Andy has an update on the stolen van debacle. 

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06 Dec 2022#175 Bonus Rub-a-dub-dub, we don't need no tub!00:20:18

Andy recalls a master shower system that he installed a few years ago with 13 heads. 

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08 Dec 2022#176 Chad's Hot Honey00:45:41

The guys welcome Chad Killinger into the studio for what turned out to be a fun B.S. session. We hope you enjoy this episode, if you haven't already please take a minute and rate the podcast on your favorite player app! 

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13 Dec 2022#177 Andy Takes His Bid Back00:11:23

Ever bid on a job then find out its maybe not the best idea to move forward? How about retracting your bid? 

This week Andy tells the story of this happening to him recently. Kinda makes you think about that time when we talked about finding the perfect customer. 

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15 Dec 2022#178 Van talk00:34:53

Eric and Andy talk about a few things on their van setup’s that they like. 

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20 Dec 2022#179 Bonus. IOT is it really necessary00:18:18

Eric and Andy chat about connected equipment and accessories. Are they needed and what benefits can a customer gain. 

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22 Dec 2022#180 Trash talk or not?00:29:01

Every time we meet a potential customer, every time you bid on a project you're being interviewed. Talking trash about other contractors is not going to make you look as good as you might think...

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27 Dec 2022#181 Take it or Leave it...Deliveries!00:15:05

How are you handling the day to day materials deliveries? To the shop? To the Job? Do you live in a gated community like Andy? Tell us! Use the link below to tell us what you're doing!

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29 Dec 2022#182 Chris Armstrong @pstheplumber Part 100:31:41

Chris Armstrong of Armstrong plumbing and @pstheplumber on IG joins Eric and Andy to shoot the breeze about plumbing business and the trades. 

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03 Jan 2023#183 Bonus: All about Andy! Looking back and ahead as we start 202300:14:29

Another new year is here! As we enter 2023 we find it useful to take a look back on the past year, our businesses, ourselves and also consider what the new year might bring our crazy busy lives. 

We hope you enjoy this and all our episodes. It has been awesome recording and sharing with you here from the MTGA studios. Thank you for your support and Happy New Year! -Eric & Andy

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10 Jan 2023#185 Bonus: Eric's look back on 2022 and ahead into the New Year00:18:07

Resolutions are so 2020! This week its Eric's turn to share how 2022 went and what he might look to change for 2023. 

This isn's an episode about resolutions, its more of a self guided journey and retrospective into what could've or might have been.....

Thanks again for listening. Please leave us some feedback, its the only way we know someone even knows we exist lol 

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05 Jan 2023#184 Part 2 Chris Armstrong00:44:22

Eric and Andy continue the conversation with Chris Armstrong @pstheplumber on IG. 

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12 Jan 2023#186 Should You Specialize?00:33:32

Should every contractor have a specialty? Are you good at everything or really good at one or two things? 

The guys talk specialties, starting out and how things might change after a few years in business. 

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17 Jan 2023#187 Bonus: Increase Efficiency!00:18:00

What can you do to be better prepared to start a project tomorrow, next week or next month? The guys talk pre-fab and looking at the products used regularly to identify how to save some time on the job to increase efficiency.  

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19 Jan 2023#188 Can We Afford Heat Pumps?00:26:26

Eric and Andy yammer on a bit more about energy costs and heat pumps. Thanks to Conner Davis for writing in!


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24 Jan 2023#189 Bonus Trade show season!00:09:45

Eric and Andy chat about upcoming Tradeshows


World of Concrete 1/17-1/19 Las Vegas, NV
KBIS IBS 1/31-2/2 Las Vegas, NV
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ISH  3/13-3/15 Frankfurt, Germany

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26 Jan 2023#190 Organize Your Operations00:37:50

We never would've thought a software was going to make us more money but here we are Scrooge McDucking it into piles of gold coins. 

Seriously tho, if you are self-employed and not using a software that puts all your billing, all your customers, all your pricing, all your marketing and som much more in one place then you are almost for sure wasting time and losing money. Take it from us, we used to be that way too. 

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31 Jan 2023#191 Bonus: Get Ready for a Slow Down!00:08:52

No body wants to say the "R" word but a slow down is expected. Regardless of which direction the economy takes its that time of year when construction and remodels are on a break. 
The guys talk about local shop prep and business tasks that can fill some down time and make a big difference in our operations. 

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02 Feb 2023#192 Patrick Caldow @aussieapprentice00:43:02

The boys welcome @Assuieapprentice Patrick Caldow on the show to chat about the life of a plumbing apprentice in Australia. 

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09 Feb 2023#194 Someone ordered the wrong boiler - Heating Talk00:50:09

What happens when you screw up and order the wrong equipment? Well, if you handle it like Andy did then you're already set...no need to listen...go check out our the episode with the Aussie Apprentice. 

Handling problems on the fly is never easy. Andy tells us a story of a recent mistake he caused and we discuss some ways to keep it from happening again along with the rare occasion when we bust into some heating talk. 

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07 Feb 2023#193 Bonus - Specialty Tools and Batteries00:17:19

Eric and Andy talk about specialty tools and the question of sticking with one battery platform or buying into specialty tool platforms. 

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14 Feb 2023#195 HVAC Tactical founder Ben Poole00:17:14

The guys sit down during AHR Expo in Atlanta to talk with a friend of MTGA, founder of hvactactical.com and @hvactactical on IG, Ben Poole. 

Ben's passion to put a spotlight on blue collar workers is so strong he created the HVAC Tactical Awards, a black tie event bringing hvac workers from all over North America. 

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17 Feb 2023#196 Travis Brungardt - Catalyst Built00:59:09

The guys invited home builder, building science nerd, licensed electrician and mechanical contractor Travis Brungardt of Catalyst Construction. Whew! What a resumé and what an awesome conversation! 

Travis and the guys talk about the builder & subcontractor relationship, interviewing to join the next build project and more. 
You can find Travis over on IG: @catalystbuilt and as a regular contributor on buildshownetwork.com 

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21 Feb 2023#197 Bonus: Its Spring Cleaning Time!00:16:53

If you're like us then there are boxes of junk piled up from the long winter. Its time to tackle the cleanup effort and take inventory of those extra tools and materials if you want to increase efficiency!  

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23 Feb 2023#198 RIDGID at AHR Expo w/ Michael Provenzano & Jim Vild00:30:58

Live from AHR with guests

Michael Provenzano, Director of Pressing, RIDGID

Jim Vild, Atlanta Territory Manager, RIDGID


The guys talk about Ridgid tools and the company who makes some of the finest piping tools in the industry.  

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28 Feb 2023#199 Bonus! Taking the late call00:11:45

Sorry folks we had some technical difficulties, so we’re going to take a look back today at an episode from days past! Hope you enjoy it again!

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