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22 Mar 2024 | The Trump Indictments, read by Peter Coyote and Renée Elise Goldsberry | 00:49:57 | |
Veteran federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann welcomes back his colleague and co-author Melissa Murray for the second in this special two-part series of Prosecuting Donald Trump. Their book: The Trump Indictments: The Historic Charging Documents with Commentary, collects the four unprecedented indictments against Donald Trump and features extensive commentary from the co-authors. Andrew and Melissa share some takeaways from the Florida classified documents case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith and the Georgia election interference case brought by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis. Both are criminal indictments facing the former president. This episode also features excerpts from these two indictments, read by renowned actors Peter Coyote and Renée Elise Goldsberry. | |||
28 Jul 2023 | The Superseding Indictment | 00:34:51 | |
Donald Trump now faces three new felony charges in the Mar-a-Lago documents case. MSNBC analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into Jack Smith’s surprise superseding indictment accusing Trump of trying to delete security footage. Plus, where things stand with the expected indictment in Smith’s 2020 election probe – and signs that things are ramping up in Georgia. | |||
03 Nov 2023 | BONUS: How to West Win | 00:35:11 | |
In a special episode of How to Win 2024, Andrew Weissmann joins Jennifer Palmieri and the West Wing’s Bradley Whitford to break down what Donald Trump’s hellish legal week could mean for the presidential race. Jen and Bradley also dive into the week’s 2024 winners and losers – including how a surprise primary challenge against President Biden could play out. | |||
23 May 2023 | Corcoran’s Notes | 00:33:28 | |
Could Donald Trump’s own lawyer be the key to Special Counsel Jack Smith’s obstruction case? MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into Evan Corcoran’s notes that reportedly show Trump was warned about keeping classified documents. Could this blow up his Mar-a-Lago defense? | |||
19 Apr 2024 | The Jury Is Seated, with Readings from Robert De Niro and Glenn Close | 00:38:02 | |
The twelve-person jury has been seated in the New York criminal case against Donald Trump. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail the latest alleged gag order violations and give insights into the jury selection process. Then, they analyze District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s own words, through his Statement of Facts submitted in the State of New York against Donald J Trump, with excerpts read by acclaimed actors Glenn Close and Robert De Niro. | |||
12 Nov 2024 | Aftershocks | 00:47:09 | |
There's a lot to unpack around Donald Trump’s ongoing criminal and civil cases after he won last week's election. To begin with, veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann explain why Judge Merchan agreed to the joint request to put off today's decision on the impact of immunity in his hush money case. Then, they dig into the constitutional arguments against prosecuting a president while in office, whether federally or as a state prosecution, and how that might also relate to sentencing in New York. Next up, Andrew and Mary illustrate how Trump’s win might impact his civil cases, to include both E Jean Carroll cases and his New York civil fraud case. And wrapping up, the duo reflect on the efforts by those convicted in J6 cases to have them dismissed or stayed, as they await a potential pardon by the president-elect. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
16 Jul 2024 | An Unsettling Few Days | 00:43:37 | |
After a traumatic weekend for the nation, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord use their law enforcement expertise to take stock of the alarming assassination attempt of former President Trump. Then, they turn to Monday’s stunning dismissal of Trump’s classified documents case, after Judge Aileen Cannon took a page from Justice Clarence Thomas’ concurrence to view Jack Smith’s appointment as illegal. Andrew and Mary explain what options are available to the Special Counsel in appealing the dismissal. Further reading: Here is are the U.S. Codes Mary and Andrew referred to:
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09 Feb 2024 | A Momentous Day | 00:42:36 | |
Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord gather for an additional episode this week to share their insights and takeaways from Thursday’s oral arguments before the Supreme Court. At issue: whether former President Trump can be barred from Colorado’s Republican primary ballot due to the 14th Amendment’s insurrection clause. Then, a review of Special Counsel Robert Hur’s report on the classified documents found in President Biden’s possession, and why, despite no charges filed against him, the report may be damaging. | |||
24 Dec 2024 | The Pardon Power | 00:44:11 | |
After a quick review of the Georgia Court of Appeals decision disqualifying Fani Willis from Donald Trump’s criminal case based on an appearance of impropriety, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord are joined by NYU Law professor and Dean Emeritus, Trevor Morrison. The discussion revolves around the limits and scope of the presidential pardon power, the legal precedence of a blanket pardon for crimes not yet adjudicated, and whether a president can in fact, pardon himself. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. | |||
01 Oct 2024 | Redactions and Reactions | 00:46:52 | |
In the DC election interference case, Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his 180-page opening brief under seal last week, along with a request to release a redacted version to the public. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann analyze how this will play out, what aspects would need to be removed, and if/when the public might see a redacted version. Then, they head north to Manhattan, where a 5-judge panel held oral arguments in Donald Trump’s appeal of his New York civil fraud judgement. And a few other headlines grabbed Andrew and Mary’s attention this week from former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, current New York Mayor Eric Adams, and a defamation lawsuit from Springfield, Ohio. Plus: time to answer a few listener questions. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
16 Apr 2024 | In a Manhattan Courtroom | 00:45:35 | |
On Monday, jury selection began in what is the first and potentially only criminal trial former President Trump may face before the November election. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail the jury selection process and what to track about the motions being filed, including one to hold Trump in contempt for violating a gag order. And they look at arguments before the Supreme Court in the Fischer case, in which a January 6th rioter is challenging a lower court ruling that he obstructed an official proceeding. A very special thanks to renowned actor Robert De Niro for reading an excerpt from the New York criminal indictment. You’ll hear his voice throughout the trial as relevant portions of these documents arise. Also, a reminder that Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for Webby Awards! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Voting is open until April 18th. Check out vote.webbyawards.com to vote for both shows. | |||
08 Oct 2024 | Office Seeker vs. Office Holder | 00:48:25 | |
After Judge Tanya Chutkan ordered a redacted version of the government's filing on immunity to be released, new information about Donald Trump’s post-election efforts came to light. Jack Smith argues that the allegations detailed in the filing were "fundamentally" done as a candidate, and not in an official capacity. Veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann frame the government's case, describing the new allegations now in the public sphere and Trump’s continued assertion that this is “election interference.” Then, they review another motion to dismiss brought by Trump’s lawyers, this one referencing the Fischer case. Also, some exciting news! Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for the Signal Listener's Choice Award! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Use the links below to vote for both shows:
Further Reading: Here is Special Counsel Jack Smith’s unsealed Motion for Immunity Determinations. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
23 Jul 2024 | Live from Highlands, NC: Back to Manhattan | 00:49:56 | |
On Monday, July 22nd, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord spoke at a live event at the Center for Life Enrichment in Highlands, North Carolina. They touched on President Biden’s historic decision to exit the race, and the legal ramifications it could hold for Trump’s continuing criminal cases. Mary and Andrew also address the question of whether a president can pardon himself, and to what extent. And they detail the reasoning laid out in Trump’s motion to vacate his New York conviction based on the Supreme Court’s decision on presidential immunity, and if any of the arguments hold water. Note: Listeners can send questions to: ProsecutingTrumpQuestions@nbcuni.com | |||
25 Dec 2023 | You've Got Mailbag | 00:37:52 | |
At the end of every episode of Prosecuting Donald Trump, we ask you to submit your questions and today, we finally have a chance to answer some of them. As we’re all reflecting on the year ahead, Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord answer your questions about 2023’s legal landscape and what’s to come in 2024. | |||
12 Feb 2025 | It’s Five O'Clock Somewhere | 00:54:33 | |
The flood of memos issued by newly minted Attorney General Pam Bondi in her first days was dizzying, so hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord zero in on several that have significant implications for national security and criminal law enforcement. Next, they give a rundown of litigation happening across the country, as courtrooms become the first defense in challenging some of President Trump’s questionable orders. And last up, Andrew and Mary talk through a few legal battles brewing over sanctuary cities and detail Mary and ICAP’s latest case aiming to protect places of worship as safe havens from immigration enforcement. And btw, the corruption case against New York City Mayor Eric Adams just went poof-- they dissect that too. Further reading:
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17 Jan 2024 | Lies in the Courtroom | 00:36:00 | |
The second defamation trial brought by writer E. Jean Carroll began today just hours after Trump won big in the Iowa Caucuses. All this happening days after Trump lashed out at the judge during closing arguments in the New York civil fraud case. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down the latest developments and what they’re watching for as they await a decision on the presidential immunity claim from the DC Circuit. | |||
20 Mar 2024 | Two Steps Forward, One Step Back | 00:49:18 | |
Delays persist in several of the cases against former president Trump, including in the New York case that was set to begin next week. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail what led to the delay in receiving documents from the U.S. Attorney in Manhattan. They also review Judge Cannon’s decision on Trump’s motion to dismiss the Florida documents case based on ‘vagueness’ in the Espionage Act. Then, Andrew and Mary turn to the Georgia ruling that led to the resignation of lead prosecutor Nathan Wade. Plus, Monday's news that the former president can’t find an insurance company to underwrite his $464 Million bond for the judgement in his NY civil fraud case. | |||
28 Feb 2024 | A Flurry of Motions | 00:38:31 | |
The nation continues to watch for a decision from the Supreme Court on both the Colorado ballot issue and Trump’s presidential immunity claim. In the meantime, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail the flurry of motions filed by Trump’s lawyers in the Florida classified documents case in an effort to have the case thrown out. This, as Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg filed his own motions, including asking for a partial gag to keep the former president from talking about witnesses, potential jurors and court staff. Plus: Andrew and Mary catch up on dual decisions from Judge Engoron and Judge Kaplan denying Trump a stay of judgement in his civil trials, meaning he’s got 30 days to pay, or the plaintiffs can start seizing assets. | |||
18 Sep 2023 | Removal, Recusal and Restrictions | 00:36:16 | |
Things are getting heated in D.C., where Donald Trump is blasting Special Counsel Jack Smith’s request to restrict his public comments on the federal election fraud case. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into Judge Chutkan’s options, plus Trump’s effort to get that judge to recuse herself. They’ll also break down the latest in GA where yet another Trump co-defendant is trying to get his case moved to federal court. | |||
11 Jun 2023 | The Full Indictment Read by Ali Velshi | 01:12:56 | |
What exactly is inside that historic 37-count federal indictment against Donald Trump? MSNBC host Ali Velshi reads every word of the DOJ’s allegations against the former president, including a transcript of a conversation Trump allegedly had about a classified military document and texts between his employees. | |||
28 Nov 2023 | Trump's Thanksgiving Threats | 00:35:03 | |
Donald Trump’s Thanksgiving threats take center stage as judges in NY and DC decide whether to reinstate his two gag orders. Plus, we’ll dig deeper into Trump’s charade of victimhood as he tries to get his federal election case in DC dismissed. All this, as Andrew and Mary celebrate 50 episodes of the pod! | |||
31 May 2024 | “We Have a Verdict” | 00:48:16 | |
Donald J. Trump, the former president and presumptive 2024 Republican nominee, was found guilty on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord reflect on the gravity of the verdict and offer insights into what comes next in terms of sentencing and the appeals process. | |||
30 Jul 2024 | The Floodgates are Open | 00:43:41 | |
What aspects of a president’s conduct are considered ‘official acts’? This is a live issue in several of Donald Trump’s criminal cases. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord detail Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg’s response brief to Donald Trump’s argument that the immunity ruling should impact his New York verdict. Then, they remind us of Mark Meadows’ indictment in Georgia as part of the RICO conspiracy case. Citing the immunity decision, Meadows has now petitioned the Supreme Court to review the previous 11th Circuit denial to move his case from state to federal court. And lastly, after the High Court’s immunity decision, the DC January 6th case heads back to Judge Tanya Chutkan's courtroom later this week, where briefing will begin to sort through what is considered official, versus personal conduct. And be sure to grab your tickets for Sept 7th: Join fellow fans and viewers for an interactive experience connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Jen Psaki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. https://www.msnbc.com/Democracy2024 | |||
22 Aug 2023 | Awaiting Trump’s GA Surrender | 00:38:03 | |
Donald Trump will surrender at an Atlanta jail this week after being indicted for election interference in GA. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down the bond order, Trump’s recent threats -- and whether he may have disqualified himself from ever being president again. | |||
04 Dec 2024 | Attack on the FBI | 00:52:26 | |
In person together at 30 Rock, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord use their combined expertise in FBI and Justice Department standards to lay plain how far outside the norm the incoming president is aiming, by flouting a congressionally mandated 10-year appointment of an FBI Director and naming loyalist Kash Patel to replace Christopher Wray. Then, they take a beat to reflect on President Biden’s unexpected pardon of his son Hunter and remind listeners of several active January 6th civil cases brought against Donald Trump that may provide the only litigation of his actions after the 2020 election. Also, on Monday, Trump’s brief was due in New York as to why his case should be dismissed based on the immunity of a sitting president. At the time of this recording, it had not yet hit the docket, but Andrew and Mary review the stakes and Judge Merchan’s denial of delaying the filing. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
18 Jul 2023 | Target Letter | 00:36:32 | |
MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord react to the breaking news that Donald Trump has received a target letter from Special Counsel Jack Smith in connection withSmith’s investigation into whether any person or entity unlawfully interfered with the transfer of power following the 2020 presidential election or the certification of the Electoral College vote held on or about January 6, 2021. Plus, they answer questions from listeners. | |||
25 Jul 2023 | Indictment Watch... Again | 00:35:33 | |
We’re on federal indictment watch again, but there could be some holdups. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord take a look at what we know so far about Jack Smith’s 2020 election probe and what we can expect when the decision comes down. | |||
13 Aug 2024 | Four Ring Circus | 00:53:49 | |
After Judge Tanya Chutkan raced back to the starting line in former President Trump’s DC election interference case, Special Counsel Jack Smith asked for a reporting extension to ensure the government can make its case within the new immunity parameters. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord analyze the reasons behind this delay, then offer some scheduling updates in Trump’s other criminal cases in Florida, Georgia and New York. Plus: a look at why Vice President Harris is choosing her words carefully when it comes to her opponent’s ongoing criminal matters.
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And be sure to grab your tickets for Sept 7th: Join fellow fans and viewers for an interactive experience connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Jen Psaki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. https://www.msnbc.com/Democracy2024 | |||
11 Jun 2024 | Post-Trial and Pre-Trial | 00:44:32 | |
Former President Trump awaits his sentencing in New York, but he wants the gag order lifted in the meantime. Is that typical? Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down that motion, and the mechanics of sentencing in the lead up to July 11th. They also highlight Attorney General Merrick Garland’s recent op-ed calling for an end to escalated assaults on our judicial system in the wake of Trump’s verdict in Manhattan. Last up, Andrew and Mary scrutinize Judge Cannon’s schedule revisions for several motions in Florida documents case, and analyze the significance of Georgia racketeering case being stayed pending appeal. Further reading: Here is Attorney General Merrick Garland’s OpEd in the Washington Post that Andrew and Mary spoke about: Opinion- Merrick Garland: Unfounded attacks on the Justice Department must end Note: Listeners can send questions to: ProsecutingTrumpQuestions@nbcuni.com | |||
26 Feb 2025 | A Shell Game | 00:51:04 | |
In a news cycle that keeps on churning, Main Justice hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord wade through the nonstop dispatches to set some focal points for this episode. They begin with the hearing held by Judge Dale Ho last week over the Eric Adams dismissal and the Judge’s appointment of Paul Clement as amicus, a.k.a. a friend of the court. Andrew details the important decisions Judge Ho has before him as Mary drives home why this case will reverberate beyond the embattled New York Mayor. Then, they touch on the latest resignation- this one, from Denise Cheung, the chief of the criminal division in the DC US Attorney’s office, after being asked to do something by the administration she believed was unsupportable. And last up, Andrew and Mary look at the Supreme Court denial of a stay in the case involving Trump’s firing of Hampton Dellinger, and the disconnect between DOJ representations about Elon Musk’s role in court versus what Musk is saying and doing in practice. Further reading: Here is Andrew’s piece on Just Security: Why the Rule of Law Depends on an Evidentiary Hearing in Mayor Eric Adams’ Case. And HERE is the letter of resignation from the head of the criminal division in the U.S. attorney’s office in D.C. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. | |||
29 Aug 2023 | First Up: The DC Trial | 00:35:34 | |
A trial date has been set in the DC election interference case against Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Trump’s former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows took the stand in GA in an effort to move his case from state to federal court. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down what happened inside those courtrooms and how the dual hearings may set the stage for what’s to come. | |||
27 Jun 2023 | The Bedminster Tape | 00:30:41 | |
Could it be game over for Donald Trump in the classified documents case? MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord weigh in on the leaked Bedminster recording where Trump appears to talk about classifieddocuments he kept. Plus, new details on the Secret Service agents who have now testified before the Jan. 6th grand jury. If you have questions, you can leave us a voicemail at 917-342-2934 and maybe we’ll play it on the pod! You can also email us at ProsecutingTrumpQuestions@nbcuni.com. | |||
16 Aug 2023 | The GA Indictment Read by Ali Velshi: Part 1 | 02:27:31 | |
Donald Trump and his allies have been charged with felony racketeering and numerous conspiracy charges in GA. MSNBC host Ali Velshi reads the first part of the 41-count indictment that accuses them of being part of a “criminal enterprise” to overturn the 2020 election there. | |||
04 Oct 2023 | Family Fraud on Trial | 00:28:41 | |
Donald Trump is in court this week for the civil fraud trial that could threaten his business empire. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into what exactly is at stake for Trump and how his attacks on the NY attorney general and judge could impact his other cases. | |||
05 Oct 2023 | Live at NYU! | 00:56:51 | |
We’re live at NYU Law School! MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord are joined by special guest and former dean of NYU Law Trevor Morrison. They discuss Trump’s new gag order, presidential immunity and take questions from the audience. | |||
07 Sep 2023 | Live at Georgetown Law! | 00:59:29 | |
We’re live at Georgetown Law! Wednesday was supposed to be arraignment day in GA’s election racketeering case, but Donald Trump and his 18 co-defendants waived their right to an in-person arraignment and pleaded not guilty. But there was plenty more activity in Fulton County. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break it all down and take questions from the audience in this special episode. | |||
05 Apr 2023 | The Manhattan Arraignment | 00:58:37 | |
Donald Trump became the first ex-president to be arraigned on criminal charges Tuesday. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord tell us what happened inside that Manhattan courtroom, what stood out to them in the pages of the indictment and what it all tells us about how District Attorney Alvin Bragg plans to build his case. | |||
15 Oct 2024 | Stays and Delays | 00:45:30 | |
Last week, the DC election interference case inched forward, as Judge Tanya Chutkan approved the public release of Jack Smith’s redacted source documents that helped frame his already public immunity briefing. But she also agreed to stay that release until October 17th, as Trump’s legal team decides if they want to seek an appeal. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann walk through how that scenario might play out, and why it could become a moot point after Thursday. Then, they take aim at critics who’ve been publicly decrying the release of the government’s immunity briefing, by pointing out that the DOJ’s “60-day rule” is not a law, and that the guidance is for new matters, not for cases that have already been charged. And before wrapping up, Andrew and Mary give their read on the disturbing politicization of FEMA's disaster response and answer a few listener questions. Further Reading: As Andrew mentioned, here is his piece, co-authored with Ryan Goodman, on Just Security: Refuting the Latest Baseless Attacks Against Special Counsel Jack Smith. Also, just two more days to vote! Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for the Signal Listener's Choice Award! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Use the links below to vote for both shows: Prosecuting Donald Trump in the Shows - News & Politics category. Into America presents: Uncounted Millions in the Limited Series & Specials - Money & Finance category and Limited Series & Specials - News & Politics categories. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
09 Oct 2023 | Submarine Secrets | 00:33:29 | |
Bombshell new reporting alleges that Donald Trump revealed sensitive information about U.S. nuclear submarines to a member of his Mar-a-Lago club. So why hasn’t Jack Smith charged him with that – and can it be brought into the case now? MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into that and some other big developments in the DC election case. | |||
09 Apr 2024 | BONUS: The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick | 01:05:52 | |
As a bonus for listeners, we’re sharing the first episode of a special series from “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast,” called “WITHpod 2024: The Stakes.” For the first time since 1892, we have an election in which both candidates have presidential records. It’s a unique chance to take a hard look at what both Joe Biden and Donald Trump have actually done as president. Chris Hayes talks to experts about both candidates’ records on specific policy areas. This week, Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director at the American Immigration Council, joins to unpack immigration policies under Trump vs. Biden, the state of the asylum system, and more. Follow and listen to the whole series: https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd | |||
05 Jun 2023 | Federal Indictment Watch | 00:38:10 | |
We're on indictment watch as the grand jury in the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case is expected to meet this week after a hiatus. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into possible charges and how prosecutors go about wrapping up a long grand jury investigation. | |||
03 Sep 2024 | The Disjointed Joint Status Report | 00:50:25 | |
Last Friday’s joint filing in the DC election interference case before Judge Chutkan highlighted the deep chasm between Special Counsel Jack Smith and Trump’s legal team when it comes to how to proceed after the immunity decision. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord give their unique perspective on what both sides offered up and which arguments hold merit. Then, they head to New York to detail the second effort by Trump’s legal team to remove the hush money case to federal court, weeks before his scheduled sentencing before Judge Merchan. Also to listeners: MSNBC Live Democracy 2024 is now sold out. Thank you for everyone who signed up to join us this weekend. And if you didn’t manage to grab a ticket, we’ll be posting selections of Saturday’s conversations as a podcast next week, so keep an eye out for that. | |||
25 Apr 2024 | Live Coverage: Supreme Court Hears Trump’s Immunity Claim | 02:40:12 | |
Donald Trump’s lawyers argue before the Supreme Court that he should be granted immunity for his efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. Hear every word of the oral arguments in a case with potentially huge implications for Trump, the 2024 election and the nation’s rule of law. | |||
06 Mar 2024 | Troupis, Chesebro & Trump | 00:37:53 | |
After the settlement in Wisconsin over the fraudulent electors scheme, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord analyze the importance of what came to light as a result of the litigation against James Troupis, Kenneth Chesebro and 10 ‘alternate’ electors. Mary was part of the team arguing the case and gives expansive context to the ongoing efforts to overturn the 2020 election. They then turn to the Supreme Court’s decision on the Colorado ballot issue, and why, despite a unanimous vote, there may be dissension in the ranks. And they wrap up with a look at the timing of the Florida documents case and Trump’s former CFO Allen Weisselberg’s guilty plea on federal perjury charges. | |||
12 Dec 2023 | DC Drama | 00:51:56 | |
Former president Donald Trump renewed his efforts to delay the DC election subversion case by asking for a halt in all proceedings while his appeal on presidential immunity moves through the courts. Meanwhile, Special Counsel Jack Smith is pushing to keep the trial on schedule by bringing the issue before the Supreme Court. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down Smith’s strategy and what this could mean for the former president’s other criminal cases. Plus, they discuss news out of Wisconsin where ten fake Donald Trump electors settled a civil lawsuit admitting their actions were part of an effort to overturn the 2020 election. | |||
29 Feb 2024 | Justice Delayed | 00:30:29 | |
The Supreme Court of the United States announced Wednesday that they'll take up former President Donald Trump’s claims for immunity, throwing yet another delay into Trump’s DC trial. Veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann explain the High Court’s order, what options the justices have, and what Special Counsel Jack Smith can do to get to trial before the election. | |||
20 Nov 2023 | Trump’s D.C. Gag Order Hearing | 02:17:52 | |
For nearly 2 ½ hours a three-judge panel grilled Donald Trump’s team and the U.S. government over whether a gag order imposed on the former president in his federal election subversion case unfairly limits his speech. Listen to the entire thing here. | |||
02 Apr 2024 | The Fair Administration of Justice | 00:43:46 | |
With the New York trial looming, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord set the table for what to expect: anticipating more delay tactics from Trump’s legal team, and the importance of Judge Merchan’s gag order reinforcement and clarification. They also look at several bar hearings held to decide whether John Eastman and Jeffrey Clark, among others, should lose their law licenses after their efforts to subvert the 2020 election results. For further reading, here is the Just Security article Andrew referenced in this episode: Trump’s Promise to Free Jan. 6 Inmates in DC Jail — Almost All of Them Assaulted Law Enforcement Officers. Also, some exciting news! Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for Webby Awards! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Check out vote.webbyawards.com to vote for both shows. | |||
23 Jan 2024 | The Truman Precedent | 00:34:11 | |
The second defamation trial brought by writer E. Jean Carroll began last week and brought with it outbursts inside and outside the courtroom from the former president. MSNBC legal analyst Andrew Weissmann was in the courtroom last Thursday. He and co-host, veteran prosecutor Mary McCord, break down this case and what they’re watching for as they await a decision on the presidential immunity claim from the DC Circuit. Also on deck: Andrew and Mary’s take on Trump’s rhetoric that President Truman needed total immunity from prosecution to use the A-bomb, and so does he. | |||
10 Jun 2023 | 37 Felony Counts | 00:35:37 | |
The DOJ has unsealed the 37-count indictment against Donald Trump, detailing how the former president allegedly lied and schemed to keep classified documents he knew were classified. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord give us their biggest takeaways from the indictment and tell us what we can expect on Tuesday when Trump turns himself in. | |||
02 Aug 2023 | The 2020 Election Indictment Read by Ali Velshi | 01:42:47 | |
For the third time in 4 months Donald Trump has been indicted, twice at the federal level, but legal experts say this is the most serious one yet. MSNBC host Ali Velshi reads every word of the DOJ’s latest allegations against the former president, charging him with 4 counts in connection with his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election. | |||
20 Nov 2024 | Reports and Recess | 00:46:51 | |
Even after the New York DA’s position with respect to a dismissal of Donald Trump’s New York case was filed, there are lingering questions about what happens next with his other criminal cases as he begins his transition back to power and unveils his cabinet nominees. MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann give an insider’s perspective on what a final report in the DC case might look like from Special Counsel Jack Smith, as is a requirement within the special counsel rules. What will it encapsulate? And will it be made public? Next up: a few cases involving J6 rioters have been denied a stay, while others have had their trials postponed, but an overarching theme is that Trump's immunity should not extend to these defendants. And finally, Mary and Andrew ‘nerd out’ on the Constitutional process of how a recess appointment works, why the early framers thought it necessary, and how the president-elect is angling to use it to avoid the Senate’s long held role of advice and consent when it comes to political appointees. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. This week, you can get a premium-only bonus episode of Chris Hayes’ podcast “Why Is This Happening?”. In it, Chris sits down with Rachel Maddow to reflect on lessons learned from this election cycle and what to expect in the new administration, including the recess appointments Andrew and Mary spoke about in this episode. | |||
25 Oct 2023 | Domino Effect | 00:33:59 | |
In this emergency episode, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into the explosive development that Mark Meadows was reportedly granted an immunity deal in the federal election case – and what it could mean for Donald Trump. Plus, another ex-Trump lawyer pleads guilty in GA and pledges her full cooperation -- on the same day Michael Cohen lobs bombshell after bombshell from the witness stand in Trump’s NY civil fraud trial. | |||
16 Aug 2023 | The GA Indictment Read by Ali Velshi: Part 2 | 01:14:35 | |
MSNBC host Ali Velshi reads the second and final part of the 41-count GA indictment that accuses Donald Trump and 18 of his allies with being part of a “criminal enterprise” to overturn the 2020 election there. This part covers charges of conspiracy to commit election fraud, influencing witnesses, impersonating a public officer, perjury and much more. | |||
25 Mar 2025 | Lawyers, State Secrets, and Signal Chats | 00:55:58 | |
On this week’s episode, Andrew and Mary start with the major capitulation of the Paul, Wiess law firm to Trump’s demands late last week, in exchange for rescinding an EO targeting the firm. This is the chilling effect they’ve been talking about in action. Then: what are the consequences of the Trump administration defying court orders from US District Chief Judge James Boasberg? The deportation of Venezuelan migrants without due process seems to be careening into that constitutional question, so Andrew and Mary break down the latest on that case, as the government invokes the “state secrets privilege”. And lastly, they detail the legal issues surrounding the now-infamous Signal chat reported by The Atlantic- an extraordinary demonstration of gross negligence when it comes to national defense information. Further reading:
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31 Mar 2025 | Equally Disturbing | 00:55:13 | |
Six emergency applications have now made their way to the Supreme Court concerning President Trump’s executive orders, so Andrew and Mary begin this episode by breaking down the emergency stay motions in several key cases involving birthright citizenship, federal workers, the use of the Alien Enemies Act and canceling education grants. Then, after a review of Trump’s latest law firm blacklist targets and the problematic nature of targeting of universities and students, they focus on an executive order aiming to change how U.S. elections are run. And last up, Andrew and Mary decry the lack of accountability over Signalgate, as Trump resists doling out any consequences to his senior National Security leadership. For more on Trump’s continued attacks on universities, check out the latest episode of Trumpland with Alex Wagner about the fallout at Columbia University and maintaining free speech on campus. Further reading: Here is the order from the DC Circuit Court of Appeals over Judge Boasberg’s TRO pausing deportations under the Alien Enemies Act, which includes separate concurring statements of Judge Henderson and Judge Millett and a dissenting statement of Judge Walker. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. | |||
02 Jul 2024 | The Immunity Decision | 00:53:11 | |
The consequential question before the Supreme Court on the limit and scope of presidential immunity has been decided, in three essential buckets. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord decipher the ramifications for the former president, for the January 6th case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith, and for the broad constitutional authority of the presidency itself. And they are joined by Trevor Morrison, NYU law professor and Dean Emeritus, to discern the finer points of the decision and the warnings cast in dissents by both Justice Sotomayor and Justice Jackson. | |||
07 May 2024 | Exhibits 35 and 36 | 00:47:41 | |
As witness testimony continues today with Stormy Daniels in Donald Trump’s New York criminal trial, jurors also recently heard from former Trump advisor Hope Hicks and longtime Trump Organization controller Jeff McConney. After trading some testimony takeaways, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord get nerdy on the significance of exhibits 35 and 36. Plus, Judge Merchan gives a sober warning to Mr. Trump as he rules on another gag order violation. And an update on the Florida classified documents case. For further reading: Here are exhibits 35 and 36 that Andrew and Mary refer to in this episode. | |||
04 May 2024 | Color From the Courtroom | 00:49:53 | |
As week three of Donald Trump’s criminal trial wraps up in New York, Andrew Weissmann paints a first-hand picture of the scene—both outside and inside the courtroom — after attending on Thursday. Then, he and fellow MSNBC legal analyst Mary McCord recount the gist of Keith Davidson’s testimony and cross-examination. And Andrew and Mary answer listener questions about the trial. For further reading: Here is the decision Andrew referenced of a 2020 order granting attorney fees between Stephanie Clifford and Donald J Trump. As he noted, page 20 is relevant. | |||
09 Apr 2024 | History in the Making | 00:51:04 | |
Donald Trump is on the precipice of his New York criminal trial, a historical first for a former president. Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord give a primer on the who, what, when, where and why of Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s case, as both sides prep for jury selection. Then they head to Florida, where tensions are elevated between Special Counsel Jack Smith and Judge Aileen Cannon over jury instructions and Judge Cannon’s handling of that case. For further reading, as Andrew and Mary mentioned in this episode, here are United States District Judge Royce Lamberth’s Notes for Sentencing for a defendant named Taylor James Johnatakis. Johnatakis was sentenced to 87 months for his role in the January 6th attack on the Capitol. Also, a reminder that Prosecuting Donald Trump and Into America have been nominated for Webby Awards! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Check out vote.webbyawards.com to vote for both shows. | |||
16 Aug 2023 | The GA Indictment | 00:41:45 | |
A stunning set of charges handed down in GA, accusing Donald Trump and 18 others of being part of a “criminal enterprise” to overturn the 2020 election there. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down the racketeering and conspiracy charges which are not pardonable by any president -- and tell us what we can expect over the next 10 days as defendants turn themselves in. | |||
08 May 2023 | Fani Willis’ Immunity Deals | 00:34:18 | |
At least 8 of Georgia’s “fake electors” have received immunity deals as part of Fulton County DA Fani Willis’ 2020 election probe. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord tell us what that could mean for Donald Trump and a possible second indictment. Plus, Trump will not testify in the E. Jean Carroll civil rape case as closing arguments begin. We’ll get into what could be behind his decision. | |||
07 Aug 2023 | A Protective Order | 00:44:18 | |
In the days following Donald Trump’s third indictment, the former president and his legal team spent the weekend unleashing defenses across social media and major news networks. This, along with the former president’s record of revealing private information, led prosecutors to seek a protective order from Judge Chutkan. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down some of the defense’s claims and how this could impact the case at large. | |||
21 Mar 2024 | The Trump Indictments, read by Glenn Close and Liam Neeson | 00:47:18 | |
Veteran federal prosecutor Andrew Weissmann welcomes his colleague and co-author Melissa Murray for a special two-part episode of Prosecuting Donald Trump. Their new book: The Trump Indictments: The Historic Charging Documents with Commentary, collects the four unprecedented indictments against Donald Trump and features extensive footnotes, commentary and a cast of characters from the co-authors. In this first episode, Andrew and Melissa listen to audio of the indictments as recorded by acclaimed actors Glenn Close and Liam Neeson. Andrew and Melissa share insights from two of the four criminal indictments facing the former president: the DC election interference case brought by Special Counsel Jack Smith, and the New York case against Donald Trump, brought by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. | |||
19 Dec 2023 | $148 million | 00:46:05 | |
A federal jury in Georgia ordered Rudy Giuliani to pay $148 million in damages to two election workers who sued him for defamation. Can ‘America’s Mayor’ survive a penalty of that size? Michael Gottlieb, the lawyer representing the election workers, joins MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord to break down the jury’s decision. Plus, Andrew and Mary discuss former president Trump’s immunity appeal in the DC case, including why the federal judge overseeing the case agreed to pause all proceedings. | |||
06 Aug 2024 | The Ball is Back in Chutkan’s Court | 00:44:49 | |
Judge Chutkan is not allowing any grass grow under her feet after Trump’s DC election interference case was sent back to her courtroom. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review her hearing schedule set to begin next week, and offer some detail on her denial of Trump’s motion to dismiss the case on selective and vindictive grounds. Then, the fallout from the Supreme Court’s immunity decision continues to echo, as Trump era DOJ official Jeffrey Clark is the latest to try for proceedings against him to be thrown out based on the High Court’s ruling. And lastly, a peek at Jenna Ellis’ cooperation in the Arizona elector case and some listener questions.
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09 Jan 2024 | BONUS: The Full Presidential Immunity Hearing | 01:15:21 | |
Former President Donald Trump appeared in federal court Tuesday morning as his lawyers argued that he is immune from prosecution on charges to overturn the 2020 election. Listen to the full hearing here. | |||
02 Aug 2023 | Charges to Overturn an Election | 00:39:07 | |
Donald Trump has been indicted for a third time, twice now at the federal level. Jack Smith’s indictment lays out the chilling details of his alleged plot to overturn the 2020 election. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord explain why this is the most serious indictment yet for Trump, what we know about the judge in the case and whether any of the unindicted co-conspirators could be cooperating. | |||
11 Sep 2024 | MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 | 01:47:00 | |
We’re thrilled to share a mashup of our MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024 event that we recently held at the Brooklyn Academy of Music. The whole day was a celebration of you, our viewers and listeners. It was the first of its kind in-person, interactive experience. We so enjoyed meeting so many of you. But if you couldn’t join us in person, you’re in luck – we’re sharing key conversations in this episode. For more, be sure to check out our TV special airing Saturday, September 14th at 9 p.m. ET. For your reference, here are timecodes for the sessions included here: Chris Hayes & Kate Shaw 0:31:36-0:51:20 Andrew Weissmann & Ari Melber 0:51:25-1:12:53 Rachel Maddow & Lawrence O’Donnell 1:13:13-1:45:45
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10 Jan 2024 | If the President Does It... | 00:39:08 | |
Today, the DC Circuit heard oral arguments from Trump’s lawyers and Special Counsel Jack Smith’s team over a crucial question: does presidential immunity protect Trump from prosecution for anything he did or actions he took while in office? Veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review the arguments and the pushback from the three-judge panel. Plus, a look at the Supreme Court deciding to hear the Colorado ballot issue, and what else is on Andrew and Mary’s prosecutorial radar. | |||
13 Jan 2025 | Full Audio of Donald Trump's NY Sentencing | 00:33:23 | |
In a Manhattan courtroom on Friday January 10th 2025, president-elect Donald Trump was sentenced in his New York hush money case after being convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records. The Judge in the case, Juan Merchan, elected to unconditionally discharge Trump, meaning he’ll receive no further penalties. Once sworn in on January 20th, Trump will be first convicted felon to occupy the White House. | |||
11 Dec 2024 | A Kitchen Sink of Grievance | 00:49:19 | |
Within the 80-page motion filed last week to dismiss Donald Trump’s New York criminal case, there’s a long list of grievances laid out by his legal team. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord underscore some of the substantive arguments as to why a sitting president might find a pending case constricting, reasoning that there are aspects that could interfere with effective functioning of the presidency. But they also illuminate how these merits are buried deep within pages of hyperbole of alleged unfairness to the president-elect, prompting Andrew to ask, in terms of the facts, “Where’s the beef?” Then they turn to some analysis of a letter written by incoming Senate Judiciary Chair Chuck Grassley, which calls out current FBI Director Christopher Wray with a personal vote of no confidence. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. This week, you’ll find a Premium episode from Andrew and Mary highlighting the national security apparatus and why Trump’s nominees for these top posts matter. | |||
26 Apr 2023 | E. Jean Carroll v. Trump | 00:52:12 | |
Trump’s legal woes deepening with a civil rape case getting underway in New York and a big development in Fani Willis’ Georgia investigation. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into what all of that means for the former president. Plus, former House General Counsel Doug Letter joins to talk about the ex-prosecutor set to testify before Congress about Alvin Bragg’s Trump case. He has 4 decades of experience as a top DOJ attorney and several years as the top lawyer for the U.S. House of Representatives. | |||
24 Jan 2025 | Listen to “Trumpland with Alex Wagner” | 00:33:25 | |
Introducing “Trumpland with Alex Wagner.” On “Trumpland,” MSNBC’s Alex Wagner takes a break from the anchor chair to get out into the field and speak with the people on the frontlines of Trump’s policies—and promises. Listen to the full first episode here, as Alex travels to DC—but not for the inauguration. Hours after President Trump was in sworn into office for the second time, he began issuing a series of presidential pardons for the January 6th insurrection. Listen along as Alex speaks to the inmates, their families, and the police officers who survived one of the most violent attacks on the Capitol in our nation’s history. Catch new episodes of “Trumpland with Alex Wagner” on Thursday evenings during Trump’s first 100 days. You can find the show in the “Alex Wagner Tonight” feed. Remember to follow the show so you don’t miss a single episode. And sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen without ads. | |||
09 Jul 2024 | Immunity Fallout | 00:53:56 | |
As last week’s historic Supreme Court decision on presidential immunity continues to be absorbed in the public sphere, the majority’s expansive view of what is considered exempt from prosecution comes into stark relief. Given their unique perspectives, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord explore the knock-on effects the ruling will have on Donald Trump’s ongoing cases in Florida, New York and D.C. Note: Listeners can send questions to: ProsecutingTrumpQuestions@nbcuni.com | |||
28 Aug 2024 | The DC Superseder | 00:22:49 | |
Sooner than expected, it’s our 100th episode! In the latest event triggered by SCOTUS’ ruling on presidential immunity, special counsel Jack Smith has filed a superseding indictment in the election interference case against former President Donald Trump. So in an extra episode for you this week, former prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann weigh in on what’s been added and struck from the prosecution’s allegations, Jack Smith’s strategy, and what this means for the case moving forward. Read the new superseding indictment and accompanying filing, along with last year’s original indictment. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. And be sure to grab your tickets for MSNBC Live Democracy 2024 on Sept 7th! Join fellow fans and viewers for an event connecting you with MSNBC's most trusted hosts and experts. Rachel Maddow, Steve Kornacki, Andrew Weissmann and many more. All in one place. All live on stage. All in one day. | |||
25 Sep 2024 | Ms. McCord Goes to Washington | 00:45:41 | |
Tuesday, the Senate Judiciary Committee held a hearing titled: “‘When the President Does It, that Means It’s Not Illegal’: The Supreme Court’s Unprecedented Immunity Decision”, and MSNBC legal analyst Mary McCord was called to testify before the committee. She and Andrew Weissmann reflect on what she laid out for the Senators concerning the fallout from the Supreme Court’s immunity decision. Then, they review the flurry of filings in Trump’s DC election interference case, where Jack Smith’s team is expected to file a substantial opening brief on Thursday. And lastly, after weeks of harassment and bomb threats, a non-profit group in Springfield, Ohio filed citizen-led criminal charges against Donald Trump and JD Vance for repeating lies that have allegedly led to threats against Haitian immigrants living in the community. Further reading:
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18 Sep 2024 | Election Security Matters | 00:48:19 | |
As the FBI continues to investigate the second apparent Trump assassination attempt, MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord describe the charges brought and the reasoning behind them. Then, they move to the latest out of Georgia after Judge McAfee dismissed three counts from the 41-count indictment, while allowing the rest to go forward. And lastly, Mary and Andrew welcome Adav Noti, Executive Director of the Campaign Legal Center, to calm some concerns about certain jurisdictions refusing to certify this November's election results. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
21 Jan 2025 | Project 2025 in Action | 00:50:24 | |
Within hours of Donald Trump’s inauguration, numerous executive actions were signed and over 1500 pardons were issued for nearly all of the January 6th defendants, despite his vice president and attorney general nominee suggesting a more refined approach. So, on this first full day of Trump’s second term, hosts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord review the blunt nature of these pardons, especially for those convicted of violent acts that day. Then they turn to pardons issued by President Biden in his final hours in office to shield those targeted by Trump for retribution- including members of Congress, those who testified in the J6 investigation, and members of his own family. And finally, Mary and Andrew dive into the myriad of executive actions signed by Trump as legal challenges begin to mount around things like getting rid of birthright citizenship, using the military domestically at our border, undoing the TikTok ban and the creation of DOGE. Further reading: Here is Mary’s recent write up in the Atlantic: A Sweeping January 6 Pardon Is an Attack on the Judiciary Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. | |||
23 Oct 2023 | Trump’s New Legal Peril | 00:34:32 | |
Donald Trump raising some eyebrows after claiming Sidney Powell was never his attorney. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into what that could mean for his defense. Plus, Trump’s fraud trial resumes in NY this week after the judge threatened to throw him in jail the next time he violates a partial gag order. | |||
04 Dec 2023 | Immunity Denied | 00:41:47 | |
In what could be his most consequential legal defeat yet, a federal judge rejects Donald Trump’s claims of presidential immunity in his 2020 election case. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down what this – and a similar ruling in a parallel civil case --could mean for the ex-president. Plus, they'll talk GA where Trump’s lawyers say he shouldn’t be tried until 2029 if he wins next year’s election. | |||
10 Feb 2025 | Listen to “The Blueprint with Jen Psaki” | 00:36:18 | |
On a new podcast series, “The Blueprint with Jen Psaki,” host Jen Psaki dives into two crucial questions: where do Democrats stand in this moment? And how can they win again? Listen to the full first episode here, as Jen sits down with Governor Wes Moore of Maryland. They reflect on the meaning of patriotism, where the party can be bolder, and authenticity as a winning factor. Follow “The Blueprint with Jen Psaki” to catch new episodes. Episode two with writer Jack Schlossberg is in the feed now. And sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts to listen without ads. | |||
14 Jun 2023 | The Miami Arraignment | 00:31:13 | |
For the second time in two months, Donald Trump has been arrested and pleaded not guilty to criminal charges – this time in relation to Jack Smith’s federal investigation into his handling of classified documents. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down what happened inside that Miami courtroom, what Trump’s likely defenses will be and how the prosecution might deal with the Trump-appointed judge overseeing the case. If you have questions, you can leave us a voicemail at 917-342-2934 and maybe we’ll play it on the pod! You can also email us at ProsecutingTrumpQuestions@nbcuni.com. | |||
30 May 2023 | Listener Questions | 00:31:03 | |
Our listeners have some burning questions about Donald Trump’s legal cases, including where exactly we stand with timing and what happens if a federal grand jury indicts. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into all of that in this special Listener Questions episode. | |||
27 Aug 2024 | Now Playing in the 11th Circuit | 00:47:36 | |
In an attempt to revive the Mar-a-Lago classified documents case thrown out by Judge Aileen Cannon last month, Special Counsel Jack Smith has now filed a brief with the U.S. Court of Appeals, a day early no less. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord discuss Jack Smith’s arguments in the brief asserting that Judge Cannon had wrongfully ruled the special counsel had been appointed illegally. Then, looking ahead at proposals in the January 6 case expected to be filed later this week. And we take some of your listener questions! Following this recording, it was reported that Jack Smith revised his indictment in the January 6th case to address the Supreme Court's ruling on immunity. A procedural filing is still expected this coming Friday, August 30th. | |||
13 Nov 2023 | Cannon, Cameras and Accountants | 00:35:10 | |
Donald Trump Jr was back on the witness stand on Monday testifying as the defense’s first witness in the New York civil fraud trial. Meanwhile, Trump’s trial in the Florida classified documents case remains on schedule for now, but with a caveat his team claims as a victory. And a group of media outlets is pushing for cameras in the courtroom in the DC trial. (Note: separate from that motion, NBCUniversal has submitted its own independent motion to broadcast the trial.) MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord tell you what you need to know. | |||
15 May 2023 | An Incriminating Town Hall | 00:31:37 | |
Did Donald Trump’s comments at last week’s town hall put him in even greater legal jeopardy? MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord weigh in on what he said that could hurt him. | |||
01 May 2023 | Mike Pence Testifies | 00:33:24 | |
Despite Donald Trump’s objections, Mike Pence testified before the Jan. 6th grand jury for several hours last week. But if you strip away the insurrection and the attempt to overturn the election, did Trump also try to solicit a crime of violence against Pence himself? MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord get into that and what it could all mean for Special Counsel Jack Smith’s investigation. | |||
28 Oct 2024 | Election Stakes | 00:50:07 | |
With eight days to go until Election Day, veteran prosecutors Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann tackle several issues related to the vote and its aftermath: if Donald Trump doesn’t win the election, could his DC criminal case be dismissed based on the Appointments Clause? Can a president use the military domestically against "the enemy within" despite the constraints of the Posse Comitatus Act? Will another ‘red mirage’ followed by a ‘blue shift’ cause the former president to cry foul and call for stopping the electoral count? And, will Elon Musk and his America PAC be held liable for paying residents in swing states to register? Andrew and Mary address these questions and remind listeners to vote! Further Reading: Andrew and Ryan Goodman's recent piece on Just Security: An Overlooked January 6 Charge: The “Stop the Count” Scheme Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
28 Mar 2023 | Prosecuting Donald Trump: A Primer | 00:40:21 | |
How do you build a legal case when the defendant is a former president? MSNBC legal contributors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord have an idea. They’re two of the most well-respected and storied prosecutors in the country – and have prosecuted historic cases from Enron to the Benghazi attack. So, they’re the perfect people to tell us how a prosecutor -- from Alvin Bragg to Fani Willis to Jack Smith – might think about prosecuting a former president. | |||
31 Jul 2023 | Jack Smith’s D.C. Indictment Decision: A Conversation with Judge Luttig | 00:35:04 | |
As we await yet another likely Trump indictment, former federal judge Michael Luttig joins Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord to talk about his role in advising Mike Pence ahead of Jan. 6th, why he says Trump wants to be charged for 1/6 – and whether he thinks that trial could happen before the 2024 election. | |||
25 Jun 2024 | ‘A Dessert Topping and a Floor Wax’ | 00:51:44 | |
There has been a slew of hearings before Judge Aileen Cannon in the Florida documents case over the past few days, and veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord examine why some of these seem like unnecessary delays. Then, why Manhattan D.A. Alvin Bragg is asking for the limited gag order to continue in New York as Donald Trump awaits sentencing. And lastly, Mary and Andrew game out some scenarios as we hurry up and wait for the Supreme Court to decide on presidential immunity. Also, an exciting announcement! On Saturday, September 7th, MSNBC will be hosting a live event in Brooklyn called “MSNBC Live: Democracy 2024”. It will be your chance to hear thought-provoking conversations about the most pressing issues of our time, and to do so in person with some of your favorite MSNBC hosts. You can also take part in a sit-down dinner for an insider’s view of the upcoming election. Visit https://www.msnbc.com/DEMOCRACY2024 to learn more. | |||
17 May 2024 | How do you Solve a Problem like Michael Cohen? | 00:51:22 | |
A recurring theme in Michael Cohen’s testimony this week was his evolving moral compass. Analyzing the last day of direct examination, veteran prosecutors Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord draw out some distinctions to be mindful of, and what the intense cross examination from defense attorney Todd Blanche was alluding to. In their estimation, the state will need to address Cohen’s inconsistencies in redirect and closing arguments. Lastly, Andrew and Mary sum up what to expect next week as the trial likely moves to summations. | |||
16 Mar 2024 | Live Coverage: The Trump Indictments | 00:44:04 | |
Tonight on MSNBC’s one hour special on “The Trump Indictments:” MSNBC Legal Analysts Andrew Weissmann and Melissa Murray cover the latest developments in Donald Trump's criminal cases and reflect on whether the American justice system has so far proven it can meet the challenge of Donald Trump’s attempts to destroy democracy. Also, Rep. Jaime Raskin explains the anti-democratic tactics Trump and Republicans are using to influence the 2024 election. Plus, MSNBC’s Chris Hayes weighs in on the media's role in the event that the voters get to render a verdict on Donald Trump before a jury does. Also joining the conversation: Melissa Redmon, Amy Lee Copeland, Leah Litman and Kate Shaw. | |||
03 Jul 2023 | Potential Cooperators | 00:31:56 | |
Rudy Giuliani is just the latest Trump ally to sit down with federal investigators. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord dig into who could be cooperating and what that could mean for the former president. Plus, why the Miami grand jury is still investigating Trump’s documents case, even after his indictment. | |||
08 Nov 2024 | Not Prosecuting Donald Trump | 00:42:32 | |
After Donald Trump’s decisive win this week, election litigation expert Ben Ginsberg joins MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann to drill down on why we are not seeing any post-election challenges, despite a bevy of concerns and allegations before voters went to the polls. Then, Andrew and Mary tick through what's next for each of the president-elect's criminal cases in DC, Florida, Georgia, and New York. Want to listen to this show without ads? Sign up for MSNBC Premium on Apple Podcasts. As a subscriber you’ll also be able to get occasional bonus content from this and other shows. | |||
04 Nov 2024 | Voting Matters | 00:43:00 | |
As a level set for post-election litigation, MSNBC legal analysts Mary McCord and Andrew Weissmann look at two cases in Pennsylvania and Virginia that have already made their way through the courts involving naked ballots and purging alleged noncitizens from voter rolls. Then, newly unsealed court documents in the DC case show long-held concerns from judges around former President Trump’s efforts to delay. And Andrew and Mary close with the latest from Florida: the 11th Circuit appeal of the dismissal of the Florida documents case is moving along and Judge Cannon doesn’t think her recusal is necessary in the case involving the second assassination attempt of the former president. | |||
27 Sep 2023 | Political Violence | 00:35:02 | |
A new filing from Donald Trump’s legal team slams Jack Smith’s request for a partial protective order, claiming it would infringe on the ex-president’s right to free speech. But many are drawing a direct connection between Trump’s incendiary rhetoric and an increase in political violence against his opponents. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break down how the courts may move forward. | |||
27 May 2023 | The Mar-a-Lago Boxes | 00:32:13 | |
Some explosive new reporting could give us the clearest indication yet about what exactly Jack Smith is looking at in the Mar-a-Lago documents case – and what he could charge. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord weigh in on reports that Trump employees moved classified documents the day before the FBI came for them. | |||
12 Mar 2024 | Immunity Take Two... and Three | 00:37:11 | |
In a last-ditch effort to delay, delay, delay- Donald Trump’s legal team submitted a motion on Monday to pause the New York trial on election interference (a.k.a. the ‘hush money’ case) until the Supreme Court decides on immunity. MSNBC legal analysts Andrew Weissmann and Mary McCord break that down, and how it differs from the motion to dismiss the Florida classified documents case. Then, they highlight the $91 million bond posted by the former president in the E. Jean Carroll case, as he appeals that decision. And a look behind the curtain as Special Counsel Robert Hur testifies before the House Judiciary Committee about his report on Biden’s handling of classified documents. Lastly, on the radar: an Arizona grand jury issues subpoenas in that states’ fake elector scheme. |