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04 Oct 2023FLASHBACK: Ex-Medium Saw 'Shadow People' and Was Embroiled in Evil Before a Dramatic Deliverance Changed Absolutely Everything00:43:57

This week, we revisit a classic episode from season one: From a terrifying childhood of seeing "shadow people" to a 38-year stretch as a medium who lived in the grips of evil without even knowing it, Ivani found herself on a troubling journey that ended in a dramatic deliverance that changed absolutely everything. 

Listen to Ivani and her family share the unsettling, stunning and powerful moments that led to her healing.  And for more on this topic, be sure to read Billy Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts."

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01 Sep 2023Terrifying Journey to Hell: Ex-Satanist Who Says He Met the Devil Leaves Occult, Finds Christ00:24:34

John Ramirez spends his time today preaching the Gospel, but he was once a Satanist and occultist who says he had a relationship with the devil. But Ramirez says a terrifying visit to hell and interaction with the devil led him on a journey to finding Jesus.

Listen to Ramirez explain how witchcraft, Tarot cards, and chaos led him into the spiritual abyss — and how he escaped on today's "Playing With Fire."

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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06 Sep 2022Satanists Keep Dominating Headlines — But What Do They Believe, Who Are They, and Do They Really Worship the Devil? An Explainer00:15:11

Satanists continue to dominate headlines, but who are they, what do they believe — and do they really worship the devil? Headlines about Satanists can be confusing and confounding, particularly when it comes to attempts to understand their belief system.

There are two general Satanist camps: theological and atheistic/rationalists. Understanding these umbrella terms and what people within each believe helps us better comprehend the headlines, process the news, discern the biblical implications, and be better prepared to respond to questions about these groups and individuals who reject Christ.

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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23 Jun 2023She Fell Into Witchcraft, Astrology, the New Age and Felt 'Dead Inside.' After Escaping Evil, She's Helping Save Kids From the Demonic00:37:00

Evil is real.

Tailah Scroggins felt dead inside. After growing up in a Christian home, she somehow fell into the occult, embracing astrology, witchcraft, and the New Age. But after embarking on a dark journey and losing the will to live, she had an incredible interaction with God that changed everything. 

Today, Tailah is an online evangelist, writer, and truth-teller on a mission to help others escape evil. She joins "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" to share her testimony, her journey into — and out of — the occult, and what she believes about deliverance ministry. Most notably, she explains what led her to dive into social media to share her vulnerable story.

When Tailah saw witchcraft, Tarot cards, crystals, and astrology blowing up on the Internet during the pandemic, she said she was grieved. 

"I was into New Age, I was into the false spirituality, in witchcraft ... so, I saw people going through what I had been set free from by Jesus," she says on the show. "And I was like, 'This is not OK. It's not OK that these videos are getting millions of [views].'"

Listen to Tailah share her powerful journey. 

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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13 Oct 2023In Wake of Hamas' Evil Terror in Israel, Are the End Times Upon Us? 5 Arguments Many Christians Make About Prophecy00:14:21

In the wake of Hamas' horrific terror attack in Israel, it's likely that prophecy discussions will ramp up in some circles.

This shouldn't come as a surprise, though, as many contemporary theologians and pastors believe that the world is currently observing numerous signs that mirror the supposedly prophetic contents of scriptures in Old and New Testament books like Ezekiel, Daniel and Revelation. Some of these apparent signs, of course, involve Israel, which is why news about the nation sparks intrigue.

Here are five reasons many Christians believe the end times could be drawing nearer. 


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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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03 Oct 2024TRAILER: Generational Curses, Deliverance, and True Evil: A Preview of Season 3 of Playing With Fire00:01:02

Evil is real. On the third season of "Playing With Fire," we're continuing our exploration of evil, healing, and truth. From the debate over generational curses to the practice of deliverance, we'll welcome familiar faces and new voices who will help us better understand spiritual warfare.


Each week on season three of the show, you'll experience sit-down interviews with pastors, authors, and Christian thinkers that will get you pondering the ins and outs of the unseen realm. Plus, revisit the powerful stories we journeyed through in season one. 


For more on upcoming episodes of "Playing With Fire," subscribe to Billy Hallowell's Substack. New episodes begin October 4, 2024.

31 Oct 2021FINALE: Ex-Satanist Spent 33 Years Embroiled in Evil and Absolutely Hated Christians — Then a Book Mysteriously Appeared on His Jail-Room Floor00:31:04

As a child, Brian Cole was desperate for love and adoration and found himself fitting in with older kids who happened to be Satanists. 

That set him on a 33-year journey into Satanism and the occult — a journey that finally came to an end when he discovered "The Case For Christ" mysteriously sitting on his jail-room floor. Today, Brian is a pastor who is speaking out about the dangers of evil.

This is his story.

07 Aug 2023Are UFOs and Aliens REAL? Renowned Astrophysicist Says Things Might Not Be What They Seem00:22:32

Are aliens and UFOs real? Astrophysicist Hugh Ross, who is also a Christian apologist, has intensely looked at this issue for decades.

Ross became a UFO expert by accident, though his theological take on the issue — particularly in light of the newfound cultural obsession with the topic — is fascinating.

On today's episode of "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire," he explores the nature of aliens, why he believes things might not be what they seem, and what people (and, in particular, Christians) might want to pay attention to.

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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21 Apr 2024Real-Life Demonic, Exorcism Stories Deliver Spine-Chilling Warnings About Dangers of Dabbling in Occult00:21:56

Exorcism. Possession. Diabolical evil. These themes, which are mainstays in many Hollywood productions, are also deeply rooted in Scripture, with the New Testament highlighting Jesus' ministry of expelling the demonic from afflicted individuals.

These are themes at the heart of "The Exorcist Files," a podcast created and hosted by Ryan Bethea. He joins us to explain why — and how — these spine-chilling stories show the dangers of dabbling in the occult.

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
- Follow Billy on Facebook
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06 Nov 2022'Witchcraft Killed My Dad': Ex-Witch's Horrific Journey Out of Terror to Christ, Escape From 5 Generations of Witchcraft00:39:58

Julie Lopez says she was walking in "darkness" until her father's horrific suicide sent her and her family on a path that snapped them out of generations of witchcraft and into a relationship with Jesus.

"I basically come from five generations of [witchcraft]," she recently told CBN's Faithwire. "I think it actually goes [further back], but ... it ends in me. I cut that generational course."

Lopez, who is now a Christian working to help others discover the Lord's voice, explained what practicing witchcraft looked like for her and her family -- and why everyone must be on guard. Here's her harrowing story. 

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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15 Oct 2021Inside Stories of Possession, Evil — and Healing: Official Trailer for the Playing With Fire Podcast00:00:53

Evil is real. But are demons active today? Can evil inhabit human beings? Is exorcism real? Join investigative journalist Billy Hallowell as he delves into the strange phenomena of supernatural activity through the harrowing stories of people who believe that have experienced ultimate evil, fought a battle they never expected — and have found healing. Premiere episodes coming this month!

This podcast is based on Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts."

27 Feb 2024'I Was Casting Spells': Teen Obsessed With Occult, Spirits, and Ouija Board Has Radical Encounter That Changed Everything00:21:47

"I was very involved in the occult, channeling spirits, casting spells, playing with Ouija board six to eight hours a day — all of those things."

That's how military veteran and artist Timothy Gagnon described his early years, explaining how he descended into evil practices while he was a young man. When he hit the sixth grade, Gagnon recalled an oral report assignment he was given. Unsure of what to do, he went to the school library and stumbled upon books on the occult.

That introduction to the topic led him into spell casting, playing with Ouija boards, and channeling spirits, among other similar activities — things he did "all day long" and "all night long" alongside two of his friends who also descended into the same practices.

Gagnon said these spells weren't empty practices — that something happened when he would engage with the occult. He said he and his friends interacted with three entities that claimed to be an angel, a demon, and a "lost spirit in purgatory." 

In the end, it was a true encounter with the demonic. And then God stepped in.


MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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09 Jul 2022Witches, Satanists, and More: Meet the Pastors Who Lovingly Ministered For Years in Salem, Massachusetts00:47:05

Guy and Tana Miller had a unique and fascinating ministry in a surprising place: Salem, Massachusetts. The husband and wife duo, who are pastors, break down their ministry, how they interacted with witches, Satanists, and others in the community — and what some Christians get wrong when it comes to trying to reach out to these groups.

Explore this powerful episode of "Playing With Fire!"

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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24 Oct 2021Strange Things Left Him Convinced He Had a 'Ghost' — but as the Chaos Intensified, A Much More Sinister Reality Was Unveiled00:45:15

Bob Cranmer was a well-respected businessman and former politician when absolute pandemonium broke out inside of his home. As he desperately sought help, he and a group of faith leaders embarked on a two-year journey to heal the home. 

Listen for the shocking and harrowing details that unfolded along the way — and better understand what people might really be dealing with when they fear a so-called "ghost" in their home.

And for more on this topic, be sure to read Billy Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts:" https://www.amazon.com/Playing-Fire-Modern-Investigation-Exorcism/dp/0785234500/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr= 

23 Apr 2023Ex-Psychic Sounds Alarm Over Bizarre 'Ouija Board' Purportedly Pledging to Connect People to Holy Spirit, Jesus00:12:11

A new talking board promises to connect Christians to the Holy Spirit and Jesus, and while the product — which is legitimately for sale — allegedly seems to be a massive troll, ex-psychic Jenn Nizza is sounding the alarm about the board and over Ouija boards more generally.

She explains why Christians should avoid the occult at all costs and why such boards are dangerous and problematic.

Listen to Nizza explain the issue and share how her own experience in the occult showed her the reality of evil.

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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12 Oct 2024FLASHBACK: Demon-Possessed Woman Dropped Herself Out of a Two-Story Window – but That's Hardly the End of Her Wild Story00:21:49

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

*** This is a flashback episode from season one of "Playing With Fire." A new episode drops on Sunday, October 13!

Amy Stamatis was a healthy nurse, wife and mother – until one day something bizarre unfolded. "I told my husband I think I’m having a nervous breakdown," she told The Playing With Fire Podcast. 

But as the days wore on, she realized something far more diabolical was unfolding. Overtaken by sudden suicidal inclinations, Amy dropped herself out of a two-story window and nearly died. But it was a stranger who, under a prompting from God, helped heal her. 

This is Amy's story.

For more on this topic, be sure to read Billy Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts."

*** NEW SEASON BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disaster. ***

16 Oct 2024'Deliverance from Evil': Confronting Spiritual Oppression — Judith MacNutt’s Journey00:30:22

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

In this gripping episode of "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" podcast, Judith MacNutt joins host Billy Hallowell to take listeners on a powerful journey through her life, ministry, and extraordinary encounters with spiritual warfare. The conversation opens with Judith’s deeply personal testimony of faith and how the seeds were planted for her own ministry of healing and deliverance.

From her experiences working in psychiatric hospitals to grappling with a young man's tragic suicide, Judith shares the stunning moments that left her questioning. These experiences pushed her to seek deeper spiritual answers, leading her to study scripture and embrace a calling to deliverance ministry. She discusses her gradual but profound realization that psychology alone couldn’t heal the soul. For many, true freedom requires confronting the unseen, spiritual forces that plague them.

She delves into stories of oppression and possession, recounting real-life battles against demonic forces that refuse to release their grip. This episode isn’t just theory; it’s an invitation. As Judith discusses the prayers and processes used at her ministry, listeners are urged to consider their own spiritual health. Whether it’s unrepentant sin, generational trauma, or the effects of the occult, Judith shows how seemingly small acts can open doors for the demonic, creating a lasting impact. 

Judith also shares insights from her latest book, Deliverance from Evil Spirits: A Guide to Freedom from the Demonic Realm

*** NEW SEASON BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disaster. ***

27 Oct 2023'Middle of a Horror Movie': Ray Comfort Reveals Demons Screaming, Terrifying Battles to Free Possessed Youths00:28:45

"The demons in her screamed like you wouldn't believe."

That's how evangelist Ray Comfort described a shocking encounter he once had in Christchurch, New Zealand, with a young woman who he believes was fighting the demonic.

"I'm right in the middle of a horror movie that I couldn't believe was happening," he said of the experience. He also revealed another example of freeing a young man from possession. 

Listen to Comfort explain why understanding true evil is essential — and what he's learned throughout his evangelistic career.


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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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07 Sep 2022WARNING: Pastor Sounds Alarm, Takes You Inside 'Little Demon' Cartoon Featuring Satan, Paganism, Teen Antichrist00:22:58

“Little Demon,” a new animated show about a woman who mates with Satan and produces the Antichrist, is raising eyebrows and making cultural waves. Mike Signorelli, senior pastor of V1 Church in New York City, issues a dire warning and breaks down why people need to be wary of the show.

“I … can’t believe that this show exists,”  Signorelli said. “I think if we could go back 30 years … everybody would universally be shocked and appalled.”

Read more about "Little Demon."

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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05 May 2022Introduced to Witchcraft as a Child and 'Bombarded With Nightmares' and Supernatural Chaos, This Ex-Pop Star Found Jesus00:32:07

Jeannie Ortega Law had a turbulent childhood. Introduced to witchcraft at an early age, she saw animal sacrifices, faced spiritual torment, and eventually came to experience suicidal inclusions. 

But her journey into Santeria ended up concluding with Law finding Jesus. She expels some myths, helps people understand what she faced, and offers powerful challenges to believers everywhere.

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Read more stories like this in "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts." 

What is Our Fascination with the Other Side?

Join investigative reporter Billy Hallowell as he delves into the strange phenomena of supernatural activity. Themes of demonic possession, exorcism, and ghosts have overtaken Hollywood, with countless films and TV shows delving into the age-old struggle against evil. But the question is why?

Even with so much focus on the topic, there seems to be very little public knowledge and discussion about the theology and real-life claims surrounding demons. Quite often, many people remain silent about their experiences or resort to quietly whispering about what they’ve seen, heard, or felt for fear of being labeled as crazy. The truth is, even pastors, priests, and clergy who have observed firsthand accounts of possession and deliverance can succumb to the strange and terrifying effects of intense spiritual warfare.

For people of faith, Playing with Fire addresses these core questions:

  • Are demons active today?
  • If they do indeed exist, what are they? Fallen angels? Nephilim?
  • Can demons inhabit human beings?
  • According to the Bible, can people die and remain behind as “ghosts”?

Playing with Fire explores the theological underpinnings surrounding the supernatural. Relying on firsthand accounts, newspaper reports, and Christian experts, Hallowell takes readers through the various views and perspectives surrounding supernatural activity.

23 Feb 2023Ex-NYPD Cop Is Now Fighting the Demonic One Case at a Time: 'Face-to-Face With Pure Evil'00:34:56

Evil is real. That's a lesson Chris DeFlorio, a former officer with the New York Police Department, has learned all too well.

DeFlorio is using his investigative skills to help people who believe they’re facing ills from the demonic realm. He and his wife Harmony run New York Demonic Investigation, an organization that seeks to explore these potential scenarios.

“It wasn’t until I pretty much focused full-time into this area, which we’ll call demonology, through the church, [that] I started to try to differentiate … the secondary evil that I was seeing on the street in human beings,” he told "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire Podcast." “And then [I wondered], ‘What’s behind that? There, there must be a primary evil.'”

That’s when DeFlorio began to take a Bible-based approach to try and understand wickedness — a path that led him to apply his law enforcement skills to demonology and the biblical understanding of the manifestation of evil.

Listen to Chris and Harmony describe confronting evil and why they do what they do.

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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20 Oct 2022Ex-Satanist Nearly Ended His Life Until He Fell Into the 'Arms of Jesus': 'I Found Myself Giving Myself to Satan'00:34:36

"I found myself giving myself to Satan."

That's not an admission one would expect to hear from a preacher, but Ben Atkins wasn't always a believer. In fact, the U.K.-based pastor went through quite a harrowing journey — one that took him into the bowels of a Satanic worldview before he discovered hope in Christ.

"This is my story. These are my experiences," Atkins said on "The Playing With Fire" podcast, noting his story involves "supernatural things" and that he is careful not to go beyond what he experienced and what he sees in Scripture. "I'm quite hesitant to go beyond what the Bible says, what Jesus taught, and my experience. That's really all I can share with any sort of authority."

Atkins described growing up in a chaotic household that looked comfortable from the outside — a scenario he likened to the "English equivalent of the American Dream." But beneath the surface was a lot of trauma, with the situation leaving him "questioning everything" at an early age.

Then, he found Satanism.

01 Nov 2023Ex-Warlock Was a 'Magnet to Evil' and Satan: 'I Was Literally Working for the Devil'00:38:39

Today, Richard Lorenzo Jr. is a Christian pastor — but that wasn't always the case. The ex-warlock was at one time embroiled in the occult, engaging in evil and encouraging others to do the same. All that changed when he accepted Jesus in 2019.
 
"I definitely was possessed," he recently said. "I was hearing voices — I was literally hearing voices." Lorenzo said he began dabbling in selling drugs, but when a massive drug package went missing, he became obsessed with finding out who took it. That's when he turned to a voodoo priest for answers. Soon, he was so enthralled with evil that he forgot about the package. The subsequent journey led him into the bowels of the occult, diving so deep into the abyss he gave up everything to study such practices.
 
In the end, Lorenzo started down a dangerous road. "I know I was possessed. ... I used to believe that the things I was doing were right," he said. "I used to believe ... abortion is right. ... I would convince people about abortion, convince people to get drunk, to cheat on their wives." Lorenzo continued, "I was literally working for the devil." But all of that changed when he found Jesus. 
 
Watch Lorenzo share the incredible journey to faith and the pastorate.

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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05 Mar 2024Ex-Porn Star Reveals 7 Lies (Satan Tells) That Will Ruin Your Life: Sex, Money, Fame and the Devil's Quest to Kill, Steal, and Destroy00:20:59

Ex-porn star Joshua Broome was once one of the most famous adult film stars. But he almost lost his life, left the industry, and found Jesus. Now, he's a preacher warning people about Satan's diabolical lies.

In Broome's new book "7 Lies That Will Ruin Your Life: What My Journey from Porn Star to Preacher Taught Me About the Truth That Sets Us Free," co-authored by Billy Hallowell, he reveals the "lies our culture tells us and guides us to the only thing that creates authentic happiness: a relationship with Jesus."

Hear him explain how porn impacted him spiritually and why exposing the devil's lies is so essential.

MORE INFORMATION:

- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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04 Oct 2024SEASON PREMIERE: 'Demonic Influence': What Are Generational Curses and What Does It Mean to 'Cast Demons Out?' Mike Signorelli Explains00:26:52

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

*** NEW SEASON BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disaster. ***

Welcome to the brand-new season of Playing with Fire, kicking things off with a deep dive into a topic many Christians rarely hear about: generational curses. Our guest today is Pastor Mike Signorelli, who’s here to talk about his powerful new book, Inherit Your Freedom. In this episode, we get into what generational curses are, the battle over the concept, why so many churches avoid the subject, and how these spiritual battles could be shaping your life without you even knowing it.

Mike takes a unique approach, drawing parallels between the biological inheritance we all understand—like heart conditions or musical talent—and spiritual inheritances like addiction or broken relationships. He explains how science, specifically epigenetics, now backs up what the Bible has taught all along. The curses passed down from one generation to the next may hold the keys to unlocking your hidden purpose. As Mike says, “If I can help you uncover the curses, I can reveal the hidden purpose.”

We also dig into deliverance, a topic that also sparks debate. What’s the balance between medical issues and spiritual warfare? Are addictions and even mental health issues linked to demonic influence in some cases? Mike, who pastors a large, multi-state church, shares real-life examples of people finding freedom by tackling both the spiritual and practical aspects of their struggles.

Mike’s book isn’t just about casting out demons—it’s about a complete transformation. From healing relationships to breaking free from cycles of addiction, Inherit Your Freedom offers diagnostic tools and practical steps for rebuilding your life after spiritual strongholds have been torn down. And Mike is there with you every step of the way, even offering video guides that go along with each chapter.

If you’ve ever wondered how your family’s past might be affecting your present, or if you’re looking for real, lasting freedom from patterns you just can’t seem to break, this episode—and Mike’s book—are for you. Check out Inherit Your Freedom, available October 22nd, and join us for an unforgettable conversation.

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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22 Apr 2022'Shut Up, Devil': Kyle Winkler on Silencing the Lies Satan Tells00:23:09

Is Satan real? Does he have an impact on our lives? Should Christians be fearful? These are just some of the questions we tackle on today's podcast.

Kyle Winkler is a Christian speaker and author who believes there are key strategies Christians can use to push back against the lies Satan tells. Founder of the popular Shut Up, Devil! app and author of the new book, "Shut Up, Devil: Silencing the 10 Lies Behind Every Battle You Face," Winkler offers some practical advice, discusses topics like "deliverance" and explores the spiritual battles the Bible says are raging around us.

Explore more episodes of the "Playing With Fire Podcast" on Apple and Edifi, among other podcast platforms.

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Evil is real. That’s the reality we deal with on the Playing With Fire Podcast. And now we’re back with season two – and things are going to look a bit different. This season, we’re telling real and raw, unfiltered and unedited stories. This special season of "Playing With Fire" begins right after the Easter season – and that’s by design.

Often, the conversation around evil is used to scare and terrify people. Stories of exorcism, fighting demons, and evil are used to entertain people through immeasurable fear. But, for the Christian, we know that Christ defeated evil on the cross – that the stage has been set and that God has triumphed. 

On season two of Playing With Fire we will explore stories of people who have left behind Satanism, witchcraft and other elements of the occult. These unfiltered conversations might shock and captivate us – but they will ultimately point us toward hope in Christ.

26 Oct 2024Ex-Psychic Reveals Hidden Horrors of Halloween: Why Tarot, Ouija Boards, Occult Usher in True Danger00:14:55

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

In this riveting episode of "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire," ex-psychic Jenn Nizza dives deep into the darker side of Halloween with host Billy Hallowell, unpacking why this holiday — and its growing commercialism — raises serious concerns for her. Reflecting on her past as a former psychic medium, Nizza describes Halloween as a celebration of darkness, with decor that has "gotten bigger and better," yet feels "daunting" and troubling for its glorification of fear. She warns of the creeping normalization of occult symbols and practices, like tarot cards and Ouija boards, which are marketed as “just for fun” but carry serious spiritual implications.

*** NEW SEASON BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. ***

Nizza doesn’t shy away from discussing how she believes divination tools are “gateways” into the demonic. "When you do devilish things, you get devilish outcomes," she warns, challenging the casual acceptance of these practices. Her experience is firsthand: as a former medium, she recounts terrifying moments when demons manifested, sometimes taking on familiar faces of the departed. She describes this dark, hidden realm as "the hook," revealing how the accuracy of spirit readings kept clients coming back — unknowingly stepping deeper into spiritual danger.

Beyond Halloween’s trappings, Nizza points to a larger cultural shift: divination practices are becoming mainstream, not just in October but year-round. She reflects on the alarming increase in occult items sold in everyday stores, including “spell books” and other paraphernalia aimed at kids and adults alike. “This isn’t something to tinker with,” she says, cautioning listeners about the long-term impact of engaging with such items, especially the risk of inviting demonic oppression and even sleep paralysis into one’s life.

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- Want to know more? Read Billy's book, "Playing With Fire: A Modern Investigation Into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts"
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07 Feb 2025Jonathan Pokluda's Warning About the Most Dangerous Error Surrounding the Demonic Realm 00:27:11

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

Jonathan Pokluda is on a mission to help people "identify spiritual warfare" and "defeat the enemy." Pokluda, pastor of Harris Creek Baptist Church in Waco, Texas, is tackling the topic of spiritual warfare head-on, recently releasing "Your Story Has a Villain: Identify Spiritual Warfare and Learn How to Defeat the Enemy," a new book aimed at helping people see through chaos to discern truth.

 

As Pokluda embarked on his own spiritual journey years ago, he realized something: many people were missing a key piece to the spiritual puzzle. In fact, some Christians weren't fully aware — or even seeking — answers about the overarching spiritual battle raging between good and evil that Paul describes in Ephesians 6. "Being raised Catholic, I would see statues of angels and demons, and I was taught in religion class about the spiritual war that was happening around me," he said. "And I knew the story in Genesis 3, the fall, you know the tempting of Satan in the Garden of Eden."

 

Pokluda continued, "But, if this war was happening around us, I knew very little about it. And I didn't know what could happen." The preacher said he was shocked to realize many people in the Christian community seemed "comfortable not knowing" these answers. This led Pokluda to do an in-depth exploration of what the Bible actually teaches. "It really was a three-year journey," he said, noting he eventually went on to do a teaching series about the topic at his church, helping others discover what he learned from Scripture.

 

Ultimately, Pokluda said it's essential for Christians to understand Ephesians 6 and the battle between good and evil, warning that "spiritual warfare has implications for everything we do." "It's a foundational truth to the Christian faith," he added. Listen to him explain.

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10 Apr 2022Hollywood Actress Reveals Quest to Speak With Spirits (Plus: Previewing SEASON 2 of Playing With Fire)00:06:56

Actress Vanessa Hudgens recently revealed her passion for trying to speak with spirits. Here's why this matters and why the mainstreaming of these activities is deeply concerning. Plus: a preview of season two of "Playing With Fire!" 

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30 Dec 2024Is a Dangerous Ideology Secretly Hijacking Some Christians' Beliefs? Apologist Melissa Dougherty Sounds Alarm on 'New Thought'00:30:46

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

Is a dangerous ideology secretly hijacking some Christians' worldview? Apologist Melissa Dougherty breaks down "New Thought," differentiates it from New Age and offers a powerful explanation of what is tying it all together.

"It really does go back to the oldest lie in the book of the serpent's lie," she says on today's Playing With Fire. Listen to this fascinating conversation — and pre-order Melissa's new book, "Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World."

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25 Mar 2023Exorcist Bursts Open Real-Life Possession Case Files in Shocking New Exploration: 'Ouija Boards...Witches, Curses, Levitation'00:43:09

"The Exorcist Files" podcast host Ryan Bethea joins "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" to tackle the "alarming increase in the number of reported demonic possessions" across the U.S. — and the globe.

Bethea reveals some of the crazy stories he's heard while working with Father Carlos Martins, a renowned Catholic exorcist. "The Exorcist Files" dramatically tells real-life cases, and Bethea shares his journey into exploring the occult — and the "robust theology" and framework at the center of it all.

"After hearing about possessed 9-year-olds, Ouija boards, truck drivers, witches, curses, levitation, and objects ... at the very least, there's stories here," Bethea said of his surprise when first hearing Martins' experiences. "Even people who are not religious are fascinated by this topic."

Listen to this fascinating conversation.

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28 Oct 2021'I Wanted to Kill Myself': Demon-Possessed Woman Dropped Herself Out of a Two-Story Window – but That's Hardly the End of Her Wild Story00:20:02

Amy Stamatis was a healthy nurse, wife and mother – until one day something bizarre unfolded. "I told my husband I think I’m having a nervous breakdown," she told The Playing With Fire Podcast. 

But as the days wore on, she realized something far more diabolical was unfolding. Overtaken by sudden suicidal inclinations, Amy dropped herself out of a two-story window and nearly died. But it was a stranger who, under a prompting from God, helped heal her.

This is Amy's story.

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26 Mar 2024'Casting Demons Out': Ex-NYPD Cop Has Radical Encounter With Jesus, Starts Expelling Evil on the Streets00:33:11

Andrew Columbia was once a New York Police Department officer known by his colleagues by some rather unfortunate monikers: "Evil" and "Ice Man." The darkness in his eyes reflected the trauma and difficulty he witnessed day in and day out on the job.

Columbia would often turn to alcohol for solace as he struggled to comprehend and cope with the horrors he observed. One night, it all came to a head on a New York City rooftop where Columbia screamed out to God — and had a radical encounter.

Soon, the once-depressed and downtrodden cop was on a very different journey, turning to Jesus, seeking peace, and showing up to police calls to command demonic spirits out of people. From despair to deliverance, Columbia's journey of discovering, discerning, and combatting evil is captivating. 

Today, Columbia is a pastor in Carmel, New York, where he's continuing his mission of sharing his story and the Christian Gospel. He joins today's "Playing With Fire" to break it all down.

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08 Jun 2023'We're Fighting a Spiritual Battle': Disney+ Show About Teen Impregnated by Devil and the 'Cartoonification' of Satan00:18:15

Mike Signorelli, pastor of V1 Church in New York City, is sounding the alarm on "Pauline," a new Disney+ show Deadline describes as a "German original about a teenager who falls in love with the devil." It's just the latest in a slew of Satan-themed content that should be giving Christian parents pause, and causing us to ponder why Hollywood continues to progress the "cartoonification" of evil.

"My reaction [to the show] was: Satan always comes masquerading as an angel of light, and so he's going to portray himself in the form that people are most readily able to accept," Signorelli said. "Because he wants to appeal to the masses, and we're seeing this over and over and over again."

Listen to the broad conversation about evil, Disney, and why these spiritual issues are of great importance. 

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21 May 2022'I Was a Witch': She Was a Teen Witch Obsessed With Crystals, Séances, Tarot, and Casting Spells Before Jesus Shattered That Life01:00:24

Sarah Anne Sumpolec was once a teenage witch. The chaos she invited in — after being led into the practice by her father — overtook her life and nearly caused her to commit suicide. 

"Within months I had collected crystals, conducted séances, and built an altar in my room to worship the god and goddess I had chosen," she once wrote. "I read incantations, used Tarot, cast spells and took on a brand new identity.  I was a witch, and proud of it."

Today, Sarah is a Bible-believing Christian, but her journey to getting to this place was anything but easy.

Listen to her incredible story on The Playing With Fire Podcast. 

20 Sep 2024SEASON FINALE: 'We're Inviting the Demonic In': Lisa Bevere on Satan, Culture, the Battle Over Gender and More 00:26:50

Author and speaker Lisa Bevere says, "Everything about our culture is demonically undermining our origin, and the enemy always wants to unmake the children of God." She joins "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" to discuss her new book, "Fight for Female" and to explore the spiritual implications of the times in which we live.

"We're inviting the demonic in through television, through music, through what we are rebelling against," Bevere proclaims. Listen to this fascinating season finale of "Playing With Fire."

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31 Jul 2023'Downloaded From Demons': Ex-Medium Responds to Raven-Symoné's 'Psychic' Claims With WARNING00:13:51

An ex-medium who found Jesus and abandoned the occult is speaking out and issuing a warning after actress Raven Symoné recently spoke about having "psychic" moments.


Jenn Nizza, a former fortune teller who hosts the podcast "Ex-Psychic Saved," joins the show to break it all down.

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11 Oct 2022The Rise of the Occult? Inside 'Hocus Pocus 2': Pastor Reacts to Witchcraft, Changes in New Film 00:15:01

Preachers like Mike Signorelli, pastor of V1 Church in New York City, is among those concerned over the rising obsession and prevalence of the occult. And he has some perspectives on "Hocus Pocus 2," the sequel to the 1993 film about three witches.

“It seems all too common in today’s culture that we are being bombarded with everything except for Christianity,” he said.

Signorelli pointed to 2 Corinthians 11:14 when reacting to claims “Hocus Pocus 2” puts a more friendly face on witchcraft. The verse reads, in part, “Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.” Listen to the conversation. 

05 Jul 2024Ex-Cop Battles Demons, Supernatural After Seeing 'Worst Evil That You Can Imagine'00:35:38

Ex-NYPD officer Chris DeFlorio once patrolled the streets observing the "worst evil that you can imagine." But after coming to faith, he and his wife came to understand the real roots of that diabolical horror. Now, he's on a mission to fight the demonic.

DeFlorio returns to "Playing With Fire" to tell his story and discuss his new book, "Called Into Darkness: Two NYC First Responders Battle the Supernatural."

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08 Jan 2023Is Yoga a Demonic Spiritual Practice That Worships False Gods? Ex-Psychic Shares Her Experience00:16:56

Yoga is one of the most popular workouts in the world, but not everyone is a fan. While some see it as mere stretches and poses, others, like ex-psychic Jenn Nizza, believe Yoga is diabolical. 

“Yoga is a Hindu spiritual practice, and the word ‘yoga’ is rooted in Sanskrit. It means ‘to yoke to’ or ‘to unite with,’ and what they’re doing,” she said on "The Playing With Fire" podcast. “They have deliberate postures that are paying tribute, honor, and worship to their false gods, and they have over 330,000,000 false gods, which are demons, and they’re honoring them with these postures.”

Listen to Nizza break down her perspective on Yoga and share her own past experiences on the matter.


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11 Jun 2022What Are Demons? Do Christians Need Deliverance? Mike Signorelli Breaks Down Evil, Exorcisms, and More00:44:04

What are demons? What's deliverance (and how does it differ from exorcism)? Is Catholic exorcism effective? Mike Signorelli, pastor of V1 Church in NYC, tackles these issues among many others on this episode of "Playing With Fire With Billy Hallowell." We also tackle:

  • Do Christians need deliverance?
  • Can a Christian have demons inside of him or herself?
  • Talk about your ministry. You do large, mass deliverance events. What are those like?
  • ...and plenty more!

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31 Oct 2024Satanist, Witch and Psychic Embroiled in Darkness Abandons It All After Jesus Appears to Him: 'I Was in Shock'00:42:47

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Riaan Swiegelaar was a practicing witch, psychic, and Satanist, living his life deeply embedded in the occult. Then, an earth-shattering encounter with Jesus changed everything.

Swiegelaar's story went viral in 2022 after he left his post as a reverend with the South African Satanic Church (SASC), and became a Christian. The global attention wasn't something he was expecting.

"I didn't anticipate at the time that it's going to go that wide," he said, noting he was almost immediately "under scrutiny from around the world" as he navigated his newfound faith. "It has been an interesting two years, indeed."

Since becoming a Christian, Swiegelaar sought deliverance, coped with the demonic, and is now helping others who are on a similar journey out of the grips of Satanism. But the process has been a long journey.

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"After I had my encounter with Christ and after I was saved, I was fully involved with certain practices," he said. "I was still doing readings for people … because I thought, 'No, I'm sure it's OK.'"

But Swiegelaar was soon convicted by the Holy Spirit and found himself going for more deliverance and finding freedom and healing from these practices.

In an appearance on "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" podcast, he explained how he rose up the ranks of Satanism, noting he had a background in theology and the occult and was practicing witchcraft and psychic mediumship when he came into the movement.

"A lot of people who join Satanism — and this was also my experience with members of that organization ... people join in it on different types of labels depending on their background and understanding," he said.

As for Swiegelaar's experience as a Satanist, he said he "saw a lot of things happening" and was profoundly "deceived."

"When I initially got involved in Satanism, I remember the first time I read the Satanic Bible … it appeals to people that are very wounded and broken … and feel like they are the odd ones out," he said. "It is written in that way for a reason. … You can define your own version of what divinity is."

At first, Swiegelaar saw God as energy and Lucifer as a force in each human being, though that later changed as he began to experience a very different dynamic.

"I had a few encounters where I actually saw different faces of the enemy," he said. "It became extremely real."

While many Satanists consider themselves to be atheists, he said there's often more to this story than meets the eye, as this idea that the devil doesn't exist is purportedly sometimes a tactic or even a misconception among new Satanic congregants.

"A lot of Satanists who initially get involved with Satanism from an atheistic point of view, most of them don't believe that the devil exists," he said, noting, though, that manifestations sometimes change so that people start to see these beliefs are, indeed, rooted in reality. "The time when ... things become very real with Satanic rituals and stuff, you're so deep into it that it's difficult to come out."

With the "wool over" some people's eyes, Swiegelaar said it can feel impossible to get out or abandon Satanism, with the dynamics becoming "extremely destructive." Some, he said, are even pushed to the brink of suicide.

He said part of his own job centered on trying to convince the public there is no devil.

"[The] devil wants to deceive people to think there's no Satan," Swiegelaar said, noting this impacted his efforts to play into this dynamic. "That is part of that very agenda that I'm talking about. It is simply that. Unfortunately, there [are] some people in media who do know the truth, because they are Satanists themselves."

One of the most deceptive and surprising elements of Satanism, he said, is that there's a stereotype or expectation of what Satanists should look like. But rather than appearing strange or fitting that dynamic, Swiegelaar said many Satanists are police, teachers, and others who would otherwise be seen as normal.

Yet he said some of the activities within Satanism are far outside of the mainstream. From black masses to the observance of monthly minor practices, Swiegelaar said he was very involved in commemorating Satanism and even running these rituals.

"In terms of animal sacrifices, yes, certainly that happens," he said. "I've been involved in that."

Swiegelaar also had much to say about babies, Satanic ritual abuse, the drinking of blood, and other disturbing occurrences — practices he had purportedly witnessed or been involved in.

But all of this is now behind him after his conversion to Christianity.

"The amount of love that I experienced ... there was just no choice but to follow Him," Swiegelaar said of Jesus. "It was Jesus Christ who saved me."

And the story behind his introduction to that love is incredible. It all started when Swiegelaar was asked to perform a ritual, and as he was preparing for it, something remarkable happened.

"As I turned around, I saw this figure," he said. "And I thought, in that moment, 'These demons are showing up already? I haven't even started with the ritual.'"

But Swiegelaar soon realized he wasn't dealing with the demonic.

"I said, 'Who are you?' And, when he said, 'Yeshua of Nazareth,' I obviously doubted that," he continued, noting he asked Jesus to "prove it." "And that's when He flooded me with that love. ... it was incredible."

Swiegelaar continued, "Everything stopped. Everything went quiet. I was completely embraced with that love. I was in shock."

Listen for the full story.

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16 Oct 2021Ex-Medium Spent 38 Years in the Grips of Evil Before a Dramatic Deliverance Changed Absolutely Everything00:43:56
From a terrifying childhood of seeing "shadow people" to a 38-year stretch as a medium who lived in the grips of evil without even knowing it, Ivani found herself on a troubling journey that ended in a dramatic deliverance that changed absolutely everything.  Listen to Ivani and her family share the unsettling, stunning and powerful moments that led to her healing.  And for more on this topic, be sure to read Billy Hallowell's book, "Playing with Fire: A Modern Investigation into Demons, Exorcism, and Ghosts."
20 May 2024What Is the Jezebel Spirit? Dr. Michael Brown Explores Baal, 'Demonic Powers,' and Witchcraft00:17:53

What is the Jezebel spirit? Radio host and author Dr. Michael Brown explains the Jezebel spirit is tied to a demoniacal figure in the Old Testament named Jezebel.

"Jezebel is arguably the most wicked woman in the Bible," Brown explains. "She was a Phoenician princess and an ardent worshiper of [the Canaan and Phoenicia god] Baal." Listen to him explain.

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03 Feb 2023'It's...So Scary': Ex-Psychic’s Alarming Warning to Parents About Crystals, Herbs, and Witchcraft 00:19:03

Once overtaken by the occult, an ex-psychic is speaking out about culture’s obsession with crystals, herbs, and other items tied to witchcraft.

Jenn Nizza, a Christian who now shares her testimony on social media and through her new podcast, “Ex-Psychic Saved,” warned about young people’s increased use of such tools.

“This is so New Age … using crystals for protection, to ward off evil, for enlightenment, to bring about psychic awareness, to place on chakras, thinking you’re going to open them up and use the energy from the crystals,” she told CBN’s Faithwire. “This whole thing is relying on energy with crystals.”

Nizza reflected on her past use of crystals as a psychic, noting she used a heart-shaped rose quartz pendant to try and draw love toward herself. She said people use crystals for other reasons as well, including protection against illness.

“It’s really so scary,” she said, noting the use of such tools is growing. Listen to her break down the issues — and sound an alarm for parents.

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11 Apr 2025SERIES PREMIERE: The Unseen World: Lee Strobel on Angels, Miracles & Near-Death Encounters00:32:01

In this gripping episode, best-selling author and investigative journalist Lee Strobel sits down with Billy Hallowell and Jen Lilley to unpack his most personal and provocative project yet—Seeing the Supernatural: Investigating Angels, Demons, Mystical Dreams, Near-Death Encounters, and Other Mysteries of the Unseen World. Strobel, known for The Case for Christ, brings his legal mind and journalistic rigor to topics many believers shy away from—yet are desperate to understand.

Why do so many people, even nonbelievers, report deathbed visions, angelic encounters, or near-death experiences that eerily align with biblical truths? Strobel shares riveting, documented accounts—from blind individuals gaining sight during clinical death to children describing angels with surprising biblical accuracy. And in a culture fascinated by the paranormal but increasingly distant from faith, Strobel explains how the supernatural may be the bridge to a deeper spiritual awakening.

Jen shares her own awe and urgency, pointing to Scriptures many churches gloss over and reminding listeners that signs, wonders, and miracles aren’t just relics of the past—they’re promises for every believer today. Billy draws attention to the cultural irony: Hollywood embraces the demonic, while parts of the Church shy away from talking about the spiritual realm at all.

From skepticism to belief, from Sunday school stories to peer-reviewed evidence, this conversation will challenge you to reevaluate what you believe about the invisible world—and why it matters for your walk with God today. Whether you're a doubter, a seeker, or a sold-out believer, this episode will stir your soul and ignite your imagination.

03 Dec 2024'Pure Evil': Ex-Cop's 'Supernatural' Battle With Possessed Man — and His Wild Journey to Fighting the Demonic00:28:26

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In this compelling episode, Billy sits down with Andrew Columbia, a pastor and former NYPD officer, to unravel an extraordinary journey from darkness to deliverance. Andrew's raw, unfiltered testimony takes listeners from his tumultuous days as a "mean, angry, prejudiced cop" in the crack cocaine-fueled chaos of New York City’s 80s and 90s, to a life-altering rooftop encounter with God. Experience his "Damascus Road moment," where despair met divine intervention, leaving him transformed and empowered.

As Andrew recounts his newfound faith, he shares his immediate, untrained encounters with the supernatural—casting out demons on the streets of New York while on duty. From fingerprinting criminals to exorcising evil spirits during routine patrols, his spiritual awakening brought unexplainable authority and peace. Hear the awe-inspiring accounts of healings and deliverance, including the story of an emotionally disturbed child instantly calmed by a single prayer, leaving educators in disbelief.

The conversation delves deeper into Andrew’s understanding of spiritual warfare, where his firsthand battles against demonic forces illuminate the very real struggle between good and evil. From casting out high-level demons as a church pastor to wrestling with the powers of darkness in international crusades, Andrew's testimonies challenge the secular dismissal of the unseen realm. His vivid story of a blind man possessed by evil spirits showcases the intense reality of deliverance ministry.

The episode crescendos with tales of Andrew’s global ministry, including a harrowing experience in Pakistan where he witnessed an overwhelming outpouring of the Holy Spirit amid threats of violence — and a shocking battle over a possessed, blind man.

In this eye-opening episode, Billy and Andrew leave listeners with a profound reminder: evil is real, but God’s power is greater. Whether you’re a believer or skeptic, this episode will challenge, inspire, and encourage you to see the world through a spiritual lens. 

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29 Jul 2022Celeb Reportedly Throws Out Witchcraft Books, Tarot Cards and Issues Public Statement: 'There Is a Spiritual Battle'00:07:39

Famous tattoo artist, entrepreneur, model, and reality TV star Kat Von D issued a fascinating statement on her Instagram last week, noting she knows there's a spiritual battle afoot. While she has always seen "beauty in the macabre," something recently changed.

"I've always found beauty in the macabre, but at this point, I just had to ask myself what is my relationship with this content?" she said, sharing a photo of the books and Tarot content she purportedly tossed. "And the truth is, I just don't want to invite any of these things into our family's lives, even if it comes disguised in beautiful covers, collecting dust on my shelves."

Listen to this mini-episode of "Playing With Fire" for the whole story — and understand why this is a truly unique and fascinating move.

30 Mar 2025'Otherworldly': Terrifying Demonic Encounter Shocks as Pastor Reveals How to 'Confront Darkness' 00:30:42

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Former senior military chaplain Steve Dabbs, author of "When Demons Surface: True Stories of Spiritual Warfare and What the Bible Says about Confronting the Darkness," joins the show to explain the demonic realm, what it looks like when demons manifest — and how Christians should respond.


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21 Jan 2025Global Evil: Murder, Chaos and the Spiritual Battle Behind Christian Persecution 00:18:04

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

Evil is real and often shows its face in the world around us. Joel Veldkamp, international communications officer for Christian Solidarity International, a persecution watchdog, joins "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire" to explore the spiritual matters at the center of Christian persecution.

From killings to harassment, anti-Christian persecution showcases what happens when diabolical evil rages. 

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08 Nov 2024'Absolutely...Demonic': 'I Love Lucy Star' Descends Into Occult, Faces Satanic Torment Before Almost Ending It All00:28:24

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

Keith Thibodeaux had it all. He played "Little Ricky" on iconic TV show, "I Love Lucy" and spent his childhood with Lucille Ball, Desi Arnaz and their family. But something happened as he grew up. Pain, uncertainty, and frustration led him on a dangerous path into the occult. At one point, Thibodeaux was tormented by demonic voices and wanted to end it all.

Then, Jesus stepped in. Here is Thibodeaux's powerful story. 

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26 Aug 2022Exposing Trauma and Evil: Meet the Husband and Wife Team Battling the Demonic With the 'Science of Deliverance'00:22:17

Evil is real. On "Billy Hallowell's Playing With Fire," we'll be speaking with Jareb and Petra Nott, Bible teachers who operate a deliverance ministry and train others to help set people free from demonic influence.

Authors of the book "The Science of Deliverance: How Spiritual Freedom Brings Physical Healing," the husband and wife duo say they take a scientific approach to healing the influence of evil. Today we'll explore their take on deliverance, evil, oppression, and the complex discussion about the passing on of trauma. Here's part one of our discussion.

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16 Aug 2022Ex-Psychic's WARNING After Tarot Cards, Paranormal Sparked 'Rabbit Hole of Destruction': Jenn Nizza's Incredible Journey to Christ00:34:27

Evil is real.

Today we tell the story of Jenn Nizza, a woman whose encounter with Tarot Card reading as a young girl led her on a years-long journey into  New Age practices and the occult.

After spending years doing readings and communicating with what Jenn believed were the dead souls of her clients, she had an encounter with Jesus that changed everything. Today, we'll discuss her story, and we'll explore the mystery, myths, and truths surrounding psychic abilities and what the Bible truly has to say.

Jenn's convicting warning is something every Christian must heed.

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08 Jan 2024Ex-Psychic's Warning After Live Tarot Reading About Trump, Biden on Fox News: 'You've Opened Demonic Doors'00:13:56

Ex-psychic Jenn Nizza is issuing a dire warning after Fox News host Jesse Watters interviewed a psychic this week named Paula Roberts. Nizza said she was "surprised" and concerned over the "demonic" practice being so prevalent on a TV news network. "[People are] being exposed to divination," Nizza told CBN Digital. "Many people are not aware and may think it's entertainment and I was really disappointed to see a news program pushing this out there, and even making light of it — making it seem like it's just entertainment and a joke."
 
She continued, "That's not what it is, and it doesn't matter if you think it's entertainment or not; the outcome is going to be the same." And that outcome, according to Nizza, is one that can breed spiritual danger. Roberts used Tarot cards during her appearance, offering predictions about former President Donald Trump's future prospects; she also addressed current President Joe Biden as well as Watters himself.
 
Listen to Nizza's warnings.

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28 Sep 2022'The Enemy's Design': Why Witchcraft, the Occult, and Supernatural are Dominating a Confused Culture00:20:27

Evil is real. In this second part of our conversation with Jareb and Petra Nott, Bible teachers who operate a deliverance ministry and train others to help set people free from demonic influence, we discuss generational issues and why the occult, witchcraft, and evil are so everpresent in today's world.

The key question: what's driving the increase? And how should Christians respond? 

"So, the fascination with evil in society right now — we have a huge interest in the supernatural and people don't know where to turn to learn about that," Petra explained. "So, they're turning to the wrong side."

Authors of the book "The Science of Deliverance: How Spiritual Freedom Brings Physical Healing," the husband and wife duo say they take a scientific approach to healing the influence of evil. Listen to them explore these themes among others.

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02 Apr 2025SERIES FINALE: New Age vs. New Thought: Inside the Destructive Forces Confusing Christians00:45:37

NEW SEASON OF "PLAYING WITH FIRE" BROUGHT TO YOU BY: Christian Solidarity International (CSI), a Christian human rights organization that advocates for and helps victims of religious persecution, enslavement, victimized children, and victims of natural disasters. 

Author and apologist Melissa Dougherty joins the show again to discuss "New Thought," how differentiates it from New Age — and why she believes Christians must beware.

Melissa's also explores her new book, "Happy Lies: How a Movement You (Probably) Never Heard Of Shaped Our Self-Obsessed World."

This is the finale of "Playing With Fire!" Stay tuned April 11 for a totally new show -- "Into the Supernatural," co-hosted by Billy Hallowell and actress Jen Lilley. 

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15 Sep 2023Are Generational Curses Biblical? Demons, Evil, and 'The Secrets to Generational Curses'00:22:31

What are generational curses? Does God punish the children for the sins of the father as we see noted in Exodus 34:7? And how does one go about breaking such a curse? 

The topic of generational curses is no doubt fiercely debated in the church today, with people taking a variety of stances. Some reject the notion of generational curses, while others see them as a major stumbling block in believers’ lives. 

Today, Alexander Pagani, author of The Secrets to Generational Curses, joins us to share his perspective. His is just one view on the matter but an important one to be discussed. Listen to what he had to say.


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