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27 Aug 2024S4E18 - Learnings from a SaaS founder with 25+ years of entrepreneur experience With David Baum00:47:01

In entrepreneurship, the path is full of ups and downs, with both triumphs and challenges. David Baum CEO & Co-founder @ Relato, a veteran entrepreneur with 25 years of experience, has navigated this journey, building and scaling several businesses. In a recent podcast episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast hosted by Joran, David shared important lessons from his experiences, emphasizing perseverance, problem-solving, and engaging with the community. This episode is full of his key insights, providing valuable guidance for both new and experienced entrepreneurs. Key Timecodes

  • (00:55) - Introduction of David Baum
  • (01:49) - David's Background and Starting Relato
  • (02:15) - Relato's Mission and Current Status
  • (03:05) - David’s Entrepreneurial Journey
  • (05:43) - Motivation and Challenges in Entrepreneurship
  • (07:02) - The Origin of Relato
  • (11:46) - David’s Programming Experience
  • (14:08) - Relato's Development and Market Strategy
  • (21:53) - Using AI in Relato
  • (26:50) - Overcoming Challenges and Rock Bottom Moments
  • (31:02) - Company Challenges and Funding Issues
  • (35:59) - Lessons from Past Ventures for Relato
  • (40:07) - Advice for Early-Stage SaaS Founders
  • (43:10) - Advice for Scaling to 10 Million ARR
  • (44:28) - Episode Summary and Closing
03 Oct 2023S2E13 - How to secure an early-stage investment for your SaaS? with Lotte Geldermans00:39:15

Securing early-stage investment for your SaaS (Software as a Service) startup is a pivotal step in turning your innovative ideas into a thriving business. To attract potential investors, it's crucial to first develop a compelling business plan that clearly articulates your product's unique value proposition and the problem it solves. Create a robust financial model that demonstrates a realistic and scalable revenue stream. Building a prototype or minimum viable product (MVP) can also instill confidence in investors by showcasing your team's ability to execute. Networking plays a crucial role; attend industry events, engage with potential investors on social media, and leverage your professional connections. Be prepared to tell a compelling story about your vision and how your SaaS addresses a market need. Finally, consider seeking guidance from mentors or advisors who have experience in your industry. With a solid plan, a strong network, and a compelling story, you'll be better positioned to secure the early-stage investment needed to propel your SaaS startup to success.

In this episode of The Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we tackle a critical aspect of securing early-stage investments. Our subject matter expert is Lotte Geldermans, the portfolio lead at PitchDrive, an early-stage VC utilizing a data-driven approach for rapid investments. Lotte brings five years of experience at PitchDrive, overseeing a growing portfolio of startups. Lotte shares insights gained from evaluating numerous startup ideas and the evolution of the startups they've invested in.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro
  • (1:36 ) Why you should listen to Lotte Geldermans
  • (2:55) What is the difference between pre-seed and seed investments?
  • (3:51) What needs to be in place to actually be ready for an investment?
  • (4:46) Things that need to be in place to be considered for a seed investment
  • (5:40 Differences between angels and early-stage VCs
  • (8:32)  The most common mistakes companies make while trying to secure their first funding.
  • (11:45) What kind of data has to be present and good to be investment-ready?
  • (15:27) What has to be really good to get a higher valuation for your company?
  • (19:00) The first signs of traction
  • (22:59) What kind of process should SaaS companies trying to secure a pre-seed or seed round adopt?
  • (29:04) Where, when, and how to exit?
  • (31:35) What happens between pre-seed and seed?
  • (33:35) How to grow to 10K monthly recurring revenue
  •  (34:44) How to grow to $10M Annual recurring revenue
  • (36:29) What Lotte wishes she had known ten years ago
06 Jun 2023S1E18 - Winning Against Big Competitors: A Product Strategy Guide with Torben Schulz 00:25:29

How can you Win Against Big Competitors? Imagine your product competing against one of the biggest and already established Brands like Excel. What product strategy should you implement to measure up to the biggest market competition? A clear product strategy is crucial in today's increasingly competitive business environment. Accordingly, this is our topic of discussion in today's special live-on-stage episode. Our guest expert, Torben Schulz is the co-founder and CEO of spreadsheet creator Rows.  

Why you should listen to Torben: With a management and consulting professional background, Torben is the founder of Rows, which seeks to become the best spreadsheets in the world. With household competition like Excel and Google Sheets, Rows' product strategy is geared towards giving users a more straightforward interface and data connectivity. In summary, Torben says the remarkable of his company are the reason any SaaS founder should give him a listening ear.

Why a SaaS needs a clear product strategy: Torben argues that a clear product strategy gives direction to the SaaS and its people. With a clear product strategy in place, the designers and engineers in the organization have the necessary freedom and creativity to work on specific tasks.

What is an ideal product strategy: The main building block of a clear product strategy, according to Torben, is a clear vision statement. The vision spells out the ideal customer profile and the problem that the product offers a solution to at present and in the future. In addition, it should articulate the jobs to be done in order to give direction to the people tasked with implementing the strategy.

Importance of integrations in a product strategy: Torben indicates that integrations are key elements of Rows because they offer tangible value to the users. According to customer feedback, integrations is one of the main reason users prefer Rows over similar tools by competition. Although integrations are a major value driver, Rows adopts a freemium model, only charging for them upon upgrade after 10,000 executions in a single month. Our guest expert also addresses the element of churn regarding integrations, stating there is a low probability of churn when various spreadsheets and integrations are used. Free-trial integrations often have low retention because they are easy to use and do not need third-party intervention. On the other hand, integrations dealing with such complex workflows as Bigquery and Facebook, for instance, have lower churn rates because they require professional assistance with the tools.


Time Stamps

  • (0:39) Topic and guest expert introduction
  • (01:38) Why you should listen to Torben
  • (03:43) Why a SaaS needs a clear product strategy
  • (04:46) What is an ideal product strategy
  • (05:45) Importance of integrations in a product
  • (08:23) Challenges with using multiple integrations
  • (11:18) Role of a customer in product strategy
  • (14:50) Importance of Artificial intelligence for SaaS
  • (16:57) Other benefits of integrations to Rows
  • (19:08) Common mistakes for companies with their product strategy
  • (21:27) Advice to SaaS companies with 10k MRR
  • (23:14) Advice to SaaS companies with 1M ARR


21 Mar 2023S1E7 - Bootstrapping To A 200M Acquisition With Patrick Campbell00:39:52

How to bootstrap your B2B SaaS to a 200M acquisition? Our guest expert Patrick Campbell did it, and he will share his learnings and knowledge on this show.


Why you need to listen to Patrick - Thanks to his company's analytics product, Profitwell Metrics, he has access to the payments data from around 3600 SaaS companies. This brings even a more unique context to his story as he has this rich data library at his disposal.


How did you manage bootstrap acquisition for your business? The successful bootstrapping of his own B2B SaaS startup to a $200 million acquisition resulted from the willingness to optimize for the long term. They published lots of content from understanding the system they were working with, engaged with the target audience, and utilized the feedback accordingly. There were also effective cost-management strategies and intentional culture. Generally, they built a great product with high NPS.


Would you ever charge for your free Metrics product - The Profitwell Metrics product does not lend itself to moving it to be paid because the nature of the market is not conducive. Thus, Patrick reckons it does not make business sense to start charging for it. He finds the alternative more appealing - instead of skimming a couple of millions at the minimum, they would instead work for a potential hundred billion dollars of lifetime revenue from the free Profitwell Metrics. Instead, the business can add other features to the paid-for effect.


Challenges in converting a free trial to paid subscriptions - The hardest thing with bootstrapping with freemium was financial challenges. It would have helped Profitwell Metrics if they initially raised money for the free multi-product that required accuracy. Also, because of the first-timer effect, most of the actions were reactionary, given that it was his company.   


What does the data say? - The most successful SaaS companies utilize metric-based pricing. In B2B SaaS, a successful pricing model considers what the target customer values.


Tactical churn, which often contributes to 20%-40% of credit card failures, can be addressed through revamping optimization and getting your monthly customers to annual arrangements.


Advice to B2B SaaS companies growing towards 10k monthly revenue  - focus on some measure of activation or engagement with your user before concentrating on making money. It helps to create a small number of customers pleased about using your product. 


Biggest advice: Cuttle with the Chaos.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:32) Introduction of today's topic and guest
  • (1:36) Why you need to listen to Patrick 
  • (3:05) Types of premium  
  • (6:32) Free trial to paid conversion rate 
  • (8:36) Challenges in converting a free trial to paid subscriptions 
  • (10:20) Would you ever charge for your free Metrics product 
  • (12:47) How did you manage bootstrap acquisition for your business 
  • (20:21) What SaaS companies need to do for growth 
  • (25:05) Secrets of successful SaaS companies 
  • (27:45) Role of customers when raising your prices 
  • (32:00) How to decrease churn for your business 
  • (35:55) Advice to companies with 10k monthly revenue
  • (38:39) Patrick's contact information

The show is hosted by Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus.

Learn more about the podcast: https://www.getreditus.com/grow-your-b2b-saas-podcast/

23 Jul 2024S4E13 - How AuthoredUp Achieved 3,000+ Paying Clients with Their Go-To-Market Strategy With Ivana Todorovic00:41:32

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Joran interviews Ivana Todorovic, founder of AuthoredUp, a LinkedIn content creation and analytics tool. Ivana shares her journey from editing and blockchain roles to entrepreneurship. The conversation delves into founding and growing a SaaS company, covering challenges, strategies, and lessons learned.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:52) - Joran introduces Ivana Todorovic
  • (1:33) - When did AuthoredUp start?
  • (1:46) - Is it funded or bootstrapped?
  • (1:50) - ARR and customer numbers
  • (2:04) - Service vs. product revenue
  • (2:25) - Number of employees
  • (2:33) - Description of AuthoredUp
  • (3:33) - Ivana's goals for AuthoredUp
  • (3:58) - Product and customer focus as motivation
  • (5:02) - Origin of the idea for AuthoredUp
  • (7:20) - Early product validation and customer feedback
  • (8:21) - From 200 free users to 3,000 paying customers
  • (9:28) - How to Transition from free beta to paid subscription
  • (10:58) - Long development period and challenges
  • (13:01) - Financial and personal challenges during development
  • (15:24) - Rebuilding the product from scratch
  • (16:34) - Personal reflections on the challenges faced
  • (18:02) - The importance of having short-term goals
  • (19:15) - Learning from mistakes in previous startups
  • (20:36) - Positive customer feedback and its impact
  • (22:08) - Importance of community management and support
  • (26:35) - Insights on current acquisition channels
  • (35:41) - Leveraging AI and machine learning in the product
  • (37:14) - Advice for SaaS founders aiming for 10K MRR
  • (38:03) - Strategy for scaling towards 10 million ARR
04 Jun 2024S4E6 - How Tally bootstrapped to $100k MRR with a team of 3 With Marie Martens00:38:35

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran sits down with Marie Martens, the dynamic co-founder of Tally, to delve into her remarkable journey of building a successful SaaS company from scratch. Tally, a streamlined and free form-building tool, skyrocketed from inception in 2020 to achieving a staggering 1.3 million ARR with over 300,000 users, all while maintaining a lean team of just two.

Marie shares invaluable insights on navigating the early stages of a startup, leveraging communities like Product Hunt and Indie Hackers, and the importance of doing things that don't scale to secure those crucial first users.

Tune in to uncover how Tally's product-led growth strategy and passionate user base have driven their success, and get inspired by Marie's practical advice on managing work-life balance and scaling sustainably. Don't miss this episode packed with actionable tips for SaaS founders aiming to replicate Tally's impressive trajectory.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:46): Introduction of Guest - Marie Martens
  • (01:22): Starting Tally During the Pandemic
  • (02:35): The Birth of Tally and Its Challenges
  • (03:24): Current Success Metrics of Tally
  • (04:07): Journey to Entrepreneurship
  • (06:45): Motivation and Community Support
  • (08:09): Achieving Product-Market Fit
  • (12:47): Overcoming Early Challenges
  • (20:00): Current Growth Strategies and Future Plans
08 Aug 2023S1E5 - How to leverage SEO as a B2B SaaS with Maeva Cifuentes00:33:00

The most important and sustainable avenue for long-term growth is SEO. The big question is how to leverage SEO as a B2B SaaS? Long-term growth frequently depends on this investment. Maeva Cifuentes, CEO of Flying Cat Marketing, a startup that helps B2B SaaS companies with their SEO and content strategy, is our special guest today. Maeva has extensive knowledge to impart based on her three years of expertise and track record of working with over 40 B2B SaaS firms. Immediately, let's begin! Thank you for coming, Maeva.

  • Defining SEO: Maeva defines SEO as transforming your website into a self-sustaining ecosystem that attracts users organically throughout their buyer's journey, from awareness to becoming a customer. Without SEO, your website relies solely on brand searches or paid ads for traffic.
  • Preparation for SEO: Before diving into SEO, Maeva emphasizes the importance of having a solid product-market fit and ensuring that your website can convert visitors effectively. This way, your investment in SEO will yield better results.
  • Understanding the Ideal Customer Profile (ICP): Maeva stresses the significance of having a well-defined ICP before creating SEO-focused content. Understanding your audience and addressing their specific needs is crucial for successful SEO.
  • Common Mistakes: One common mistake businesses make is focusing on the wrong metrics for SEO success. Maeva advises aligning SEO KPIs with business goals, such as demo requests, free trial sign-ups, or revenue, rather than just rankings and traffic.
  • SEO Strategy: Maeva introduces four website archetypes - Builder, Optimizer, Scalar, and Wild One - each with specific SEO objectives. For beginners (Builders), the focus is on ranking for easy keywords to build topical authority, while more established businesses (Scalers) create thought leadership content and attract external interest.
  • Content Optimization: Maeva recommends optimizing existing content to increase click-through rates (CTR) and conversion rates, as it can yield quicker wins compared to focusing solely on new content creation.
  • Fresh Content and Rankings: Refreshing and updating content periodically, especially for pages on the second page of search results, helps maintain relevance and appeal to both readers and search engines.
  • Should You Include Last Updated Dates in Your Blog Posts? The podcast begins with a practical question on whether including the "last updated" date in a blog post is necessary. Maeva advises that having the date on the blog post is considered best practice. For industries where information changes rapidly, it benefits users to know when the content was last updated to assess its relevance and accuracy. Considering user experience is essential, and including the date ensures transparency and builds trust with your audience.

Key Timecodes

  • (1:25) Why you should listen to Maeva
  • (2:00) What is SEO?
  • (2:55) What you need to have before starting SEO
  • (4:50) Mistakes companies make while implementing SEO
  • (7:29) What to do to get the most out of SEO
  • (10:34) The best SEO practices
  • (15:25) The bottom of the funnel example
  • (16:50) The importance of refreshing content
  • (19:17) Maeva’s success story
  • (23:45) Does duplicate content hurt your SEO?
  • (25:46) AI effect on SEO
  • (28:37) How to grow to 10K MRR
  • (30:01) How to grow to 10M ARR
  • (31:05) What does Maeva wish she knew 10yrs ago?
09 Jan 2024S3E6 - How to prepare your SaaS for an exit? With Dirk Sahlmer00:28:13

What is a SaaS exit and how can you prepare for a SaaS Exit? This is one of the topics that has been extensively discussed on the Grow Your B2B podcast, with an in-depth coverage by Nathan Latka, Thomas Smale and Andrew Gazdecki. In this podcast episode, Dirk Sahlmer, the head of origination at the SaaS group, shared valuable insights on preparing SaaS companies for successful exits. With 17 acquisitions under their belt, the SaaS group has established itself as a key player in the industry, focusing on acquiring SaaS companies with a bootstrapper mindset and driving their growth. Dirk's journey into M&A began with a background in engineering and co-founding a company, eventually leading him to his current role as head of origination at the SaaS group. His extensive experience and expertise in the industry have equipped him with unique perspectives on preparing SaaS companies for exits.


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Key Timecodes

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro

  • (1:28) Why you should listen to Dirk Sahlmer

  • (2:05) Dirk’s definition of what bootstrapping is

  • (2:55)  What an Exit is according to Dirk

  • (4:30)  How Dirk evaluates a company. Is Multiples a factor?

  • (6:11) The Key Elements Founders Should Have in Place When Preparing for an Exit

  • (7:30)  Understanding the exit process

  • (9:18)  What role does a Letter of Intent (LOI) play in the exit process?

  • (10:39) The common mistakes founders or companies make during an exit process?

  • (12:26) The ideal place to have your numbers

  • (13:52) What companies and founders should do to get a higher valuation during an exit process. 

  • (18:48) The future of acquisitions in SaaS

  • (21:56) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (23:17) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (25:03) Dirk’s crucial advice to B2B SaaS founders

18 Jul 2023S2E2 - Why should someone buy your SaaS Now? With ⁠Michael Humblet⁠00:40:04

In this episode of the "Growing a B2B SaaS" podcast, host Joran Hoffman interviews Michael Humblet, author of the books "Why Now" and "Nobody Knows You," and founder of Chaomatic, a service company aiding VW sales companies in generating more leads through creative content. Michael shares his insights on why businesses should invest in B2B software tools right now and how to overcome common challenges in sales and marketing.

The conversation begins with Joran asking Michael why people should listen to him and why the timing is crucial. Michael explains that most businesses struggle with lead generation and lack trust-building strategies. He emphasizes the importance of fixing the "nobody knows you" problem by creating content, gaining attention, and building trust with prospects before engaging in sales conversations.

Michael further discusses the sales process, focusing on techniques to move deals forward. He highlights the significance of simplifying complex solutions, demonstrating the interface, and showcasing the value of a single feature that can bring significant benefits. He also emphasizes the need to structure sales pitches effectively and reduce the initial meeting time to increase the likelihood of progressing to the next step.

The conversation then delves into Michael's book, "Nobody Knows You," which addresses the challenges of building trust and gaining attention. He emphasizes the use of social proof, such as logos or faces, to establish credibility. Michael also explains the importance of attention and provides tips for structuring content and presentations effectively to guide the audience's focus.

Finally, Michael shares insights from his book "Why Now," which focuses on accelerating deals. He emphasizes the importance of using the right sales methodology for different situations, injecting doubt or certainty depending on the prospect's needs, and providing a clear structure to alleviate concerns and promote faster decision-making. He suggests incorporating action steps at the end of each interaction to keep prospects engaged and move them closer to conversion.

The episode concludes with a discussion on potential challenges when implementing the strategies outlined in the books. Michael advises seeking feedback from others and existing prospects to gain valuable insights and ensure effective communication. Simplifying messaging and aligning it with the language prospects use is key to successful implementation.

Overall, this episode provides actionable advice and strategies for B2B SaaS companies to overcome common sales and marketing challenges, establish trust, and accelerate deal closure.

Key Time codes

  • [00:01:13.620] Why you should listen to you Michael today? And indeed, why now?
  • [00:06:05.230] Why Michael wrote the book Nobody Knows 
  • [00:07:00.590] - The content quality vs quantity analogy
  • [00:09:08.440] - Understanding people’s interests.
  • [00:10:03.360] - How long should you keep talking in a sales call?
  • [00:10:48.160] - What really initiated Michael to start writing the book Why Now?
  • [00:15:15.310] - How do you create doubt? 
  • [00:18:20.080] – What is sales? 
  • [00:19:24.200] - All the sales techniques to pull them very quickly to a closing.
  • [00:21:26.560] - What are the biggest reasons sales get stuck?
  • [00:25:13.670] – Knowing the exact words
  • [00:25:40.410] – What is a good content Machine?
  • [00:29:54.300] – Affiliate Marketing
  • [00:34:16.280] - The five steps to the three steps.
  • [00:37:53.470] – The future of AI? 
03 Sep 2024S4E19 - Go To Market learnings from B2B SaaS Trumpet With Rory Sadler00:39:39

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Host Joran sits down with Rory Sadler, the co-founder and CEO of Trumpet, a dynamic SaaS platform designed to streamline the buying process for customers. Since its launch in December 2021, Trumpet has rapidly grown, attracting hundreds of customers and thousands of companies on its free plan. 

In this episode, Rory shares the origins of Trumpet, detailing how he and his co-founders identified a crucial gap in B2B SaaS sales and built a solution to address it. He also opens up about Trumpet's funding journey, the challenges faced, and the lessons learned along the way. From embracing technology and AI to maintaining a strong customer focus and building a robust social media presence, Rory provides valuable insights for SaaS founders and entrepreneurs looking to navigate their own growth trajectories.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) - Introduction and Focus on Internal Success
  • (00:50) - Guest Introduction
  • (01:22) - Company Background and Revenue
  • (02:52) - Product and Employee Overview
  • (04:09) - Rory's Entrepreneurial Journey
  • (06:27) - Motivations and Company Vision
  • (07:28) - Challenges and Personal Hardships
  • (13:05) - Lessons for Founders
  • (17:06) - The effective Growth Strategies
  • (22:32) - Critical Decisions and Community Engagement
  • (28:23) - Use of AI and Future Plans
  • (34:07) - Advice for SaaS founders
19 Dec 2023S3E3 - Lessons learned; Bootstrapping to 20M ARR With Emeric Ernoult00:40:25

Bootstrapping a B2B SaaS to 20M ARR in revenue without significant external funding is challenging. Even though it might seem extremely difficult, you can do it using solid processes, having skilled people on the team, and the founder staying motivated and focused on the goal. This big goal is doable and possible with the right plan and determination.

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, host Joran Hofman interviews Emeric Ernoult, Co-founder of Agorapulse, a social media management software. Emeric shares his experiences and insights on growing a bootstrap SaaS to over 20 million ARR and the lessons learned. Emeric Ernoult co-founded Agorapulse, a social media management software company. Before entering the SaaS industry, Emeric worked as a business lawyer and launched a social network. He is passionate about growing SaaS companies and has valuable experience mentoring and advising other founders.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:40) Show and guest intro
  • (1:18) Why you should listed to Emeric Ernoult
  • (2:39) What is bootstrapping?
  • (3:34) Why Emeric Ernoult never raised any outside capital 
  • (5:33)The most common mistakes bootstrap founders make
  • (10:31) The ideal processes or strategies recommended to bootstrapped founders?
  • (15:38)  How to keep people accountable on certain set deadlines?
  • (17:54) Reasons behind the rapid growth of Agorapulse
  • (21:55)  Advice on how to recruit, manage and keep talent in a bootstrapped SaaS? 
  • (26:36) How to invest in talent? 
  • (30:19) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (31:09) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (33:51) Emeric’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (36:46) What Emeric wishes he knew 10 years ago
10 Sep 2024S4E20 - Building Client-Obsessed SaaS: Insights from a Seasoned Founder With Daan Assen00:39:11

Starting a SaaS company can be a fun and challenging adventure. In this exciting episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, host Joran sits down with the proud founder of SwipeGuide, Daan Assen. SwipeGuide helps big companies like Heineken and Coca-Cola manage their workers better. In this episode, we’ll explore Daan’s story, the smart choices he made, and what he learned along the way. Key Timecodes

  • (0:00) - Show introduction 
  • (1:00) - Founding SwipeGuide
  • (2:25) - SwipeGuide's Business Model and Products
  • (4:16) - Personal Journey and Early Ventures
  • (6:16) - Challenges and Pivots
  • (10:41) - Major Milestones and Scaling
  • (16:20) - Overcoming Challenges
  • (18:20) - Key Decisions and Strategies
  • (21:05) - Product Development and Co-Creation
  • (28:31) - Frameworks and Technologies
  • (32:24) - Advice for SaaS Founders
29 Oct 2024S5E6 - Leveraging Customer Success for SaaS Growth: Churn, Collaboration, and Strategic thinking With Mike Dry00:43:08

When it comes to Software as a Service (SaaS) business, customer success plays a crucial role in keeping a business healthy and thriving. It’s not just about acquiring new customers; it’s equally important to ensure that existing customers are satisfied and see the value in your product. Customer success focuses on enhancing customer experiences and encouraging effective product usage, while customer support addresses immediate issues as they arise. Together, these components work harmoniously to maximize customer satisfaction and minimize churn.

In this exciting episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Host Joran Hofman welcomes back Mike Dry, the VP of Customer Success and Support at Dealfront, for a deep dive into how to leverage customer success for SaaS growth. Discover powerful insights on tackling churn, fostering collaboration, and honing your strategic thinking. 

Key Timestamps

  • (0:00) - Introduction to Customer Success and Churn
  • (0:51) - Mike Dry's Background 
  • (1:35) - Difference Between Customer Success and Support
  • (3:06) - Importance of Linking CS and Support for Clients
  • (4:03) - Understanding Customer Churn in SaaS
  • (7:31) - Learning from Churn to Improve Customer Experience
  • (10:12) - Foundational Customer Success Strategies for Startups
  • (13:09) - Identifying Gaps Between Product and Customer ROI
  • (15:23) - Responsibilities of a Customer Success Manager
  • (15:42) - Hiring Your First CSM: When and Why
  • (18:40) - Transitioning to Mid-Stage: Reducing Churn
  • (21:50) - Reporting Churn Insights and Prioritization
  • (24:16) - Defining and Utilizing Ideal Customer Profiles (ICP)
  • (26:06) - Building a Customer Success Team in Mid-Stage
  • (28:57) - Scaling Customer Success Without Linear Hiring
  • (30:37) - Leveraging Automation in Customer Success
  • (32:49) - Cross-Functional Collaboration for Expansion Revenue
  • (35:22) - Advice for Early Stage: Climbing to 10K MRR
  • (36:14) - Advice for Scaling to 10 Million ARR
  • (37:57) - General Advice for Customer Success Professionals
04 Apr 2023S1E9 - Creating a content strategy that drives signups with John Ozuysa00:29:17

What is content? Or better yet, what is good content? Do you know how to create content that drives and converts into signups and paid clients? In today's episode, we host John Ozuysal, the co-founder of Datapad and advisor to other startups. We discuss how to create a B2B SaaS content strategy that drives signups. 

During his topical mapping, John explains that he uses internal backlinks for all relevant content. This greatly works for startups in the early stages with minimal resources because it is speedy. 

Common mistakes made with creating a content strategy. Limiting yourself to keyword tools. He says that you should ask the customers how and what they search for content. It, therefore, helps, during signup, to seek the problem and the desired solution from the customer. 

Thoughts on the rise of Chatgpt in content writing. He admits that he utilizes the tool for fast-tracking some functions in research instead of writing content with it. It helps generate content keyword ideas, optimize SEO, and identify entities from paragraphs. 

John dives into affiliate marketing and writing content for signups. Instead of focusing on the transactional page and leaving it in the hope it will rank, he advises creating supporting pages to link to the transactional page. It gives your content greater visibility to other potential companies that may want to affiliate with you to promote their content. 

Advice to startups growing to 10k MRR? Reverse your funnel by starting at the bottom with content targeting an audience seeking solutions like the one you offer. 

Advice to startups growing to 1M ARR? Invest more in the middle and top of the funnel. Using customer research, you should build next-generation features by writing relevant content. 

Key Timecodes

  • (01:47) Why you need to listen to John 
  • (02:43) What is content 
  • (03:15) Difference between writing content and content that converts
  • (04:34) What needs to be in place before creating content 
  • (06:42) Strategies for writing content to generate signups 
  • (10:00) Why does he not do link-building for his content?
  • (14:13) Does he create yellow pages for topics he writes about 
  • (17:28) Common mistakes with content strategy 
  • (20:50) His thoughts on Chatgpt for content writing 
  • (22:11) Affiliate marketing and writing content for signups
  • (22:50) Advice to companies with 10k monthly recurring revenue 
  • (26:00) Advice to companies with 1 million annual recurring revenue 
  • (27:20) John's templates on offer and contact information
02 Jan 2024S3E5 - How to implement the Growth Hacking mindset in your B2B SaaS? With Sean Ellis00:41:55

What is growth hacking? and why is it important to implement your growth hacking mindset for your B2B SaaS? Well, In this episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, show host Joran Hofman interviews Sean Ellis, an expert in growth hacking and author of the book Hacking Growth. They discuss the concept of growth hacking and its application in startups and businesses. Sean shares his unique perspective gained from working with billion-dollar companies and emphasizes the importance of understanding the cause and effect of results in the growth process. Key Timecodes Sean Ellis

  • (0:40) Show and guest intro

  • (1:45) Why you should listen to Sean Ellis

  • (5:13) What is Growth hacking?

  • (6:51)  Why is Sean so passionate about growth hacking?

  • (8:11) The most common mistakes companies make while trying to implement growth hacking.

  • (11:33) The ideal processes or strategies recommended to set up a growth hacking process

  • (16:14)  Sean’s tested and proven framework

  • (19:34) The common metrics to focus on

  • (23:28)The best practices for achieving success in growth hacking

  • (29:30) The most common challenges associated with growth hacking

  • (33:13) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (35:44) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (38:36) Sean’s crucial advice to B2B SaaS founders 

  • (35:46) What Sean wishes he knew 10 years ago

07 Nov 2023S2E18 - How to become profitable as a bootstrapped SaaS? With Melissa Kwan00:36:28

Building a successful startup, especially in the competitive world of B2B SaaS, is a challenging task. It requires dedication, strategic decision-making, and a focus on achieving profitability. Achieving profitability in a startup requires careful planning, customer focus, revenue-driven decisions, and adaptability.

In this podcast episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS, host Joran Hofman interviews Melissa Kwan, a successful entrepreneur bootstrapping her third startup, E-Webinar. Melissa shares her expertise on how bootstrapped founders can achieve profitability and why they must do so. Melissa emphasizes that becoming profitable allows founders to have financial stability, pay their team, and have the freedom to focus on their own happiness and personal goals. 

Melissa also discusses her anti-VC stance, explaining that she prioritizes a particular lifestyle over financial gain and prefers to build a company where life comes first. She advocates for founders to enjoy the journey and find fulfillment along the way rather than solely working towards a big exit or financial success in the future. Melissa advises founders to focus on revenue generation and make decisions based on what will increase revenue, rather than solely focusing on product features or improvements. By thinking about their product as a revenue-generating machine, founders can ensure the sustainability and profitability of their business.

Melissa's insights shed light on the importance of profitability for bootstrap founders and the potential for a fulfilling and balanced lifestyle while building a startup. She encourages founders to prioritize their happiness and well-being while also considering revenue generation and making informed decisions for the growth of their businesses.

We discuss strategies to increase revenue and profitability, such as focusing on add-ons and catering to power users. Melissa highlights the need to learn and implement marketing strategies, such as SEO and content generation, and emphasizes the challenges of transitioning from a sales-driven approach to a marketing-led one. 

She also shares her approach to building an audience on LinkedIn by crafting thoughtful, longer-form content. She provides insights into pricing strategies, revenue-driven decision-making, cost consciousness, and the importance of community and work-life balance. 

Key Timecodes Melissa Kwan

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro

  • (1:16) Why you should listen to Melissa Kwan

  • (1:34) why is it so important for bootstrap founders to become profitable?

  • (4:26)  Why didn't Melissa Kwan go for an investment with eWebinar?

  • (8:31)  Why building a startup to sell shouldn't be your set end goal.

  • (10:03) Common mistakes startups founders make while bootstrapping.

  • (12:17) what are things which will increase revenue

  • (13:54)  Melissa’s process and strategy towards profitability

  • (18:06) The common challenges and obstacles companies face while bootstrapping 

  • (22:08) Where and when to post content

  • (25:35) Why Melissa doubled her prices and reduced support tickets by 70%

  • (29:14) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (30:58) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (33:31) Melissa’s crucial advice to SaaS founders

09 Jul 2024S4E11 - Bootstrapping your fully remote B2B SaaS beyond 20M+ ARR With Liam Martin00:45:31

In today's episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran welcomes Liam Martin, the co-founder of Time Doctor, a SaaS company specializing in time tracking and productivity monitoring. Liam's background is quite diverse, having worked as a journal editor, a research and teaching assistant, and the co-founder of staff.com. His entrepreneurial journey took a significant turn when he founded Time Doctor in April 2012, driven by a need to solve a problem he faced with an online tutoring business.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) Introduction to Scaling Customers and Remote Work Impact
  • (01:00) Spotlight on Liam Martin, Co-founder of Time Doctor
  • (01:35) Genesis of Time Doctor: Solving a Crucial Problem
  • (02:26) Tracing Time Doctor's Origin Story
  • (02:29) Early Challenges in Time Doctor's Development
  • (02:50) Current ARR and Business Model Insights
  • (03:09) Exploring Employee Count and Remote Work Dynamics
  • (03:42) Overview of Time Doctor’s Services
  • (04:18) Journey into Entrepreneurship
  • (04:49) Academic to Entrepreneurial Transition
  • (05:58) Driving Forces Behind Time Doctor
  • (06:10) Mission and Impact of COVID-19 on Remote Work
  • (07:29) Customer Testimonials and Their Impact
  • (08:10) Growth Strategies Amidst COVID-19
  • (09:52) Personal Challenges and Navigating Burnout
  • (11:11) Managing Workload and Achieving Balance
  • (12:03) Steps to Recover from Burnout
  • (15:04) Strategic Decisions During Growth
  • (15:16) Differentiating Through Growth Strategies
  • (18:23) Go-to-Market Strategy and Sales Approach
  • (21:08) Transition to a Combined Sales Approach
  • (22:54) Customer Qualification and Sales Funnel Management
  • (24:34) Scaling Opportunities with Large Customers
  • (28:32) Addressing Major Technical Challenges
  • (29:08) Managing Significant Technical Failures
  • (31:08) Reflecting on Past Decisions and Potential Regrets
  • (31:29) Strategic Learnings from COVID-19 Challenges
  • (36:19) Role of AI and Machine Learning in Time Doctor
  • (37:35) Vision for Future Product Development
  • (38:11) Advice for Early-Stage SaaS Founders
  • (38:22) Insights for Scaling from 10K MRR to 10M ARR
  • (41:20) Summary and Advice for SaaS Founders
05 Sep 2023S2E9 - How to do product marketing for your B2B SaaS? With Alex Levin00:28:41

Product marketing for your B2B SaaS requires a strategic approach to effectively reach and engage your target audience. Start by thoroughly understanding your customer personas and their pain points. Craft a compelling value proposition that highlights how your software solves their specific problems. Develop a clear and concise messaging strategy that communicates the benefits and unique features of your SaaS solution. Utilize content marketing to create informative blog posts, whitepapers, and case studies that showcase your expertise and provide value to your audience. Leverage social media, email marketing, and webinars to reach potential customers and nurture existing leads. Establish trust through customer testimonials and case studies, and invest in building a strong online presence through SEO and paid advertising. Lastly, continually gather feedback, analyze data, and iterate on your product marketing strategy to stay ahead in the competitive B2B SaaS landscape.

In this episode, we dive into the world of product marketing, specifically tailored for B2B SaaS companies. Our guest for today is Alex Levin, co-founder and CEO of Regal, an AI-enabled, outbound, and SMS sales SaaS solution. Alex brings a unique perspective to product marketing, having transitioned from a background in B2C marketing to B2B SaaS.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro

  • (1:22) Why you should listen to Alex

  • (3:15) The difference between normal marketing and product marketing

  • (4:33) The key fundamentals to consider before starting product marketing

  • (7:38) The elements of product market strategy

  • (10:07) Where does product marketing start and where does it end?

  • (12:22) Common mistakes SaaS companies make while trying to implement product marketing

  • (17:07) What Alex would do differently if he was just about to start product marketing.

  • (19:48) The KPIs for measuring product market success

  • (21:00) The Key qualifications to look for when hiring a  product market person 

  • (23:58) How Alex is currently doing Product market.

  • (24:46) Advice per stage (How to grow to 10k MRR and 1M ARR)

05 Mar 2024S3E14 - How do investors analyse SaaS businesses? With Cameron Hay00:34:27

In this post-COVID era, money isn't flowing freely anymore. But here's the burning question: How exactly do investors analyse SaaS businesses?

Join us in this episode of the "Grow your B2B SaaS" podcast where we roll up our sleeves and dive into the detailed aspects and complexities involved in analyzing SaaS businesses, particularly in the post-COVID era. We'll shine a light on the crucial role of data-driven decisions in navigating the increasingly selective investment terrain of 2024 and beyond.

Leading our discussion is none other than Cameron Hay, co-founder of Finomatic Consulting. With a treasure wealth of valuable experience and knowledge in corporate finance, accounting, and data analytics, which is highly beneficial in his role as an expert in assisting private equity-backed SaaS firms, Cameron is the go-to expert for private equity-backed SaaS firms seeking financial optimization and real-time KPI analysis. Buckle up for insights that will reshape your investment strategies!

Key Timecodes

  • (00:37) Show and Guest intro
  • (1:30) Why you should listen to Cameron Hay
  • (02:08)The Changing Landscape of Investing
  • (03:24) Minimum Requirements for Talking to Investors
  • (04:24) Common Mistakes in Presenting to Investors
  • (05:55) Where most Deals go wrong (Aligning Operational and Financial Information)
  • (07:04) Strategies for Getting Data Ready
  • (09:27) Keeping Investors Updated(The role of the tools)
  • (10:20) How Cameron structures his data
  • (10:54) The best practices to keep your investors updated 
  • (13:00) Target Net Retention Rate(The monthly Report)
  • (14:54) The target for SaaS businesses in 2024
  • (16:06) Challenges in Getting Data Ready
  • (20:05) The Future of VC and SaaS Analysis
  • (23:59) Why SaaS Companies should work with Cameron Hay
  • (25:43) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (26:26 ) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (28:15) Advice for SaaS founders
  • (31:42) What Cameron wishes He knew 10 years ago
15 Aug 2023S2E6 - How to do revenue attribution the right way? With Steffen Hedebrandt00:29:34

When it comes to achieving accurate and insightful revenue attribution, mastering the right approach is crucial for the success of your business. In this episode, Joran Hofman hosts Steffen Hedebrandt the Co-founder of Dreamdata. In this episode, our guest expert helps us to understand How to do revenue attribution the right way.

Revenue attribution isn't just about tracking where your customers come from; it's a strategic process that involves understanding the entire customer journey, identifying successful tactics, and optimizing your marketing efforts. To do revenue attribution the right way, start by implementing a comprehensive data collection strategy that encompasses various touchpoints, from CRM and marketing automation to website tracking and ad platforms. By creating an account-based timeline and connecting it to revenue outcomes, you gain valuable insights into what's truly driving your sales. Investing in reliable tools like Dreamdata can streamline this process, ensuring you're equipped with the accurate data you need to make informed decisions and replicate winning strategies. With precise revenue attribution, you'll be empowered to allocate resources effectively, enhance your marketing efforts, and ultimately drive sustainable growth for your B2B SaaS business.

Key Timecodes

  • (1:23) Why you should listen to Steffen Hedebrandt
  • (1:58) What is revenue attribution in relation to B2B SaaS
  • (3:22) The bare minimal requirements for starting revenue attribution 
  • (4:47) When to start thinking about revenue attribution 
  • (7:15) The important metrics to check out for attributions
  • (10:14) Mistakes companies make while doing revenue attribution 
  • (13:50) Effective processes and strategies for revenue attribution  
  • (16:52) The benchmarks for what works and what doesn't
  • (18:34) Which review sites works best for B2B Saas?
  • (22:27)The importance of aligning sales and marketing
  • (24:30) How to grow to 10k MRR
  • (25:40) How to grow to 10M ARR
  • (26:35) What Steffen Wishes he knew 10 years ago
27 Feb 2024S3E13 - How to turn Discovery Calls into Customers with Chris Orlob00:39:24

What questions are you asking your prospects during the discovery call? Is your approach effectively engaging your prospects during the discovery call, and more importantly, are you successfully converting them into paying customers? The key to a fruitful discovery call lies in a carefully designed and proven strategic process. If you're aiming to enhance your customer conversion rate from discovery calls, then this episode is a must-listen.

Our featured expert on this pivotal subject is Chris Orlob, the CEO of Pclub.io. With a wealth of experience in sales, marketing, and scaling startups, Chris brings a formidable background to the table. His track record includes driving substantial growth, such as elevating Gong.io's revenue from modest figures to over $200 million during his tenure. Moreover, as the co-founder of PClub and an investor in numerous startups, Chris possesses invaluable insights into refining go-to-market strategies and establishing scalable sales processes. His expertise is particularly pertinent for SaaS startups seeking growth and market expansion.

Key Timecode

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro

  • (1:18) Why you should listen to Chris Orlob

  • (2:12) What is a discovery call?

  • (3:14) How to ask provoking questions

  • (4:58) The importance of creating a mental image in the discovery phase

  • (7:12) The common mistakes companies make while doing discovery calls

  • (11:56) Understanding how the qualifier works 

  • (13:53)The strategic recommended process for setting up discovery calls

  • (18:23) Should you show your  product in the first call?

  • (21:17) What is the goal of a discovery call?

  • (22:41) How the qualifier works in determining your ICP

  • (23:25) The best practices for  doing a discovery call

  • (28:24) Challenges faced in discovery calls

  • (29:24) The future of doing discovery calls

  • (32:43) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (33:41) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (35:26) Advice for SaaS founders

  • (36:25) What Chris wishes He knew 10 years ago

02 May 2023S1E13 - How to win in a crowded B2B SaaS market with Alan Gleeson00:36:03

Is your B2B SaaS struggling in a saturated market? Do you know the hacks and tricks of staying competitive in the increasingly crowded B2B SaaS market? If that's your current dilemma, then this is your episode. With our guest Alan Gleeson, we talk about how to curve a niche and become competitive in the B2B SaaS market that is becoming crowded daily.

Why you should listen to Alan – He has gained immense experience from his involvement in the B2B SaaS market since browser software rendering became possible. Furthermore, Alan has worked as a consultant to more than 50 B2B SaaS companies in different countries. He has seen the inside of a lot of Google Analytics accounts at different growth levels, gaining a valuable understanding of growth drivers in a saturated market.

Why start a B2B SaaS in a crowded market –B2B SaaS businesses are becoming more and more successful and have relatively low startup costs. On the other hand, he identifies the primary difficulty as the B2B SaaS market's competition due to the growing number of competitors. A very specialized or niched, obscure startup struggles with poor Google exposure or a competitive market sector that is oversaturated calls for a strong differentiation strategy. He characterizes competition as beneficial for a startup with a well-developed strategy. 

What should be in place before venturing into a competitive B2B SaaS market – You need to be aware of the table sticks features expected of the specific market category. Also, it is necessary to satisfy the product-fit requirement by initially gathering the required research. Key areas include competitor pricing, core features, search engine marketing companies, and a well-defined ideal customer profile. It would be best to consider only commercializing your B2B SaaS after validating all the assumptions.

Key Time codes

  • (0:30) Introduction to today's topic and guest
  • (1:26) Why you should listen to Alan 
  • (1:26) Why start a B2B SaaS in a crowded market
  • (4:08) What should be in place before venturing into a competitive B2B SaaS market 
  • (6:34) Understanding your ideal customer profile
  • (7:18) Other common mistakes for B2B SaaS in a crowded market 
  • (10:21) Strategies and processes of winning in a crowded market 
  • (12:50) Importance of market knowledge in a niche market
  • (16:25) Challenges of building B2B Saas in a crowded market 
  • (21:18) How do you plan for Contento to remain competitive
  • (25:56) How does indirect marketing help B2B SaaS in a crowded market 
  • (28:20) Advice to SaaS founder with 10k MMR
  • (30:48) Advice to SaaS founder with 1M AAR 
  • (34:45) Alan's contact information
24 Sep 2024S5E1 - How to Scale Beyond Founder-Led Sales in B2B SaaS With Gavin Tye00:44:45

In the early days of a startup, founder-led sales are crucial. Founders know their product and market well, often leading customer conversations. But as the company grows, this approach can hold back progress. To succeed long-term, it’s essential to shift to a scalable sales model. In this first episode of Season 5 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran sits down with Gavin Tye, the founder of Sales Market Fit, as they take a look at a simple plan to help make this transition and allow your business to thrive.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:52) - Introduction to Season 5 and Guest Introduction
  • (1:44) - Discussion on the Success of the Podcast
  • (2:19) - Topic Introduction: Moving Away from Founder-Led Sales
  • (2:34) - Definition of Founder-Led Sales
  • (3:22) - Role of Subject-Matter Expertise
  • (4:01) - Importance of Founder-Led Sales in Early Days
  • (4:12) - Challenges and Need for an Outcome-Focused Approach
  • (5:21) - Transitioning to Team-Based Selling and Common Mistakes
  • (6:54) - Challenges in Applying Traditional Sales Processes
  • (7:19) - When to Move Away from Founder-Led Sales
  • (7:29) - Four-Step Process for Transitioning
  • (9:53) - Summary of the Four-Step Process
  • (10:37) - When to Consider Moving Away from Founder-Led Sales
  • (11:26) - When to Hire Salespeople and Importance of Structure
  • (13:12) - Challenges in Hiring the First Salesperson
  • (14:19) - Scaling Beyond Founder-Led Sales for Long-Term Growth
  • (14:25) - Importance of Framework in Scaling Sales
  • (16:01) - Avoiding Micromanagement in Sales Teams
  • (16:08) - Framework for Sales: The 5.8 Method
  • (18:10) - Importance of Aligning to How Buyers Buy
  • (19:10) - Importance of Following a Sales Process
  • (20:14) - Difference Between Methodologies and Sales Strategies
  • (20:43) - Frameworks for Helping Buyers Through Their Journey
  • (21:10) - Advertisement for Reditus
  • (21:22) - Common Mistakes in Transitioning from Founder-Led Sales
  • (22:20) - High-Level Talk vs. Market Understanding
  • (23:22) - Hope as a Strategy
  • (24:58) - Hiring the First Salesperson
  • (25:02) - Skills Needed in the First Hire
  • (26:02) - Experience vs. Skills in Sales Hires
  • (27:13) - Teaching and Managing the First Hire
  • (27:33) - Access to Frameworks
  • (29:34) - Skills Over Experience in Hiring Salespeople
  • (30:32) - Scaling a Sales Team After the First Hire
  • (31:53) - Iterating and Lessons Learned from the First Hire
  • (32:33) - Best Practices in Transitioning from Founder-Led Sales
  • (33:36) - Importance of Founders Leading Sales
  • (34:44) - Prioritizing Sales Efforts
  • (34:51) - The Fat Guy, Skinny Guy Model
  • (35:32) - Approach to Helping Clients
  • (36:41) - Audit and Plan for Founder-Led Sales
  • (37:11) - Advice for Founders Growing to $10K MRR
  • (38:42) - Converting Beyond Your Network
  • (39:05) - Advice for Founders Growing to $10 Million
  • (39:12) - Return on Effort in Sales
  • (40:32) - Summary of the Episode
  • (42:09) - Final Remarks and Closing Thoughts
  • (42:48) - Contact Information and Closing
02 Apr 2024S3E18 - How Chili Piper is Becoming A Billion Dollar Company With Alina Vandenberghe00:27:47

How is Chili Piper becoming a billion dollar company? In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman interviews Alina Vandenberghe, the co-founder and CEO of Chili Piper, a B2B SaaS company that helps sales teams automatically schedule appointments with leads They Instantly turn inbound leads into qualified meetings. They discuss Chili Piper's journey to becoming a billion-dollar company, including their valuation and mistakes along the way. Alina shares her personal motivation and the challenges she faced as an entrepreneur. She emphasizes the importance of trusting your own path and not listening to others' advice. Alina also provides advice for growing a B2B SaaS company, from zero to 10K MRR and beyondKey Timecodes

  • (00:52) Chili Piper's Journey and Valuation
  • (03:13) Personal Questions and Motivation
  • (04:37) Lessons Learned and Regrets
  • (05:35) Chili Piper’s Future Plans and Expansion
  • (07:28) How Chili Piper Was Built on Their Own Terms
  • (08:26) Growing Talent and Unconventional Decision Making
  • (09:19) Biggest Challenges and Personal Growth
  • (10:44) Overcoming Layoffs and Building Trust
  • (12:01) Looking Back and Building Confidence
  • (13:57) Chili Piper’s Future Goals and Impact
  • (14:53) The Value of Trusting Your Own Path
  • (15:51) Dealing with Competition and Market Dynamics
  • (20:56) Advice for Growing from 10K MRR to 10 Million ARR
  • (23:51) Advice for SaaS Founders on Their Journey
  • (24:47) The Importance of Understanding Different Departments
  • (26:15) Reflections on Entrepreneurship and Learning
22 Aug 2023S2E7 - How to build a community as a B2B SaaS? with Mike Rizzo00:36:32

How to build a community as a B2B SaaS? In season one, episode eight of our podcast, we were privileged to host Alex Theuma, where we discussed how to create a community within a B2B SaaS. In this episode, we take the subject matter a notch higher as we host Mike Rizzo, the Founder & CEO of Marketingops and community-led Growth Advisor at Rev Brains.

We discuss the importance of having a thriving community as a B2B SaaS. Mike shares valuable, actionable tactics on How to build a community as a B2B SaaS. 

Establishing a thriving community within the realm of B2B SaaS demands more than just a product or service – it necessitates a strategic and holistic approach. Crafting a robust B2B SaaS community involves creating a space where industry professionals, clients, and stakeholders converge to exchange insights, best practices, and solutions. By fostering meaningful interactions through tailored content, engaging discussions, and collaborative initiatives, companies can forge lasting relationships, enhance customer loyalty, gather valuable feedback, and ultimately shape a community-driven ecosystem that adds substantial value to both their offerings and the industry at large.:

Key Takeaways:

  • Community-led means intentional feedback from constituents.
  • A hypothesis-driven approach to building a community.
  • Engagement with community members as a form of user research.
  • Importance of clear community guidelines and identity.
  • Partners and experts can contribute to community success.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:29) Show and topic intro
  • (1:30) Why you should listen to Mike Rizzo
  • (2:17) What is community-led?
  • (5:10) The importance of knowing your ICP (Ideal Customer Profile)
  • (6:31) What needs to be in place before starting community-led growth?
  • (9:00) Common mistakes companies make while starting community-led growth?
  • (13:09) The ideal community-building process
  • (18:43) Challenges and obstacles experienced while building a community
  • (22:37) The online vs Offline communities
  • (27:54) How to grow to 10K MRR.
  • (29:45) How to grow to 10M ARR
19 Sep 2023S2E11 - How to reduce your CPL and scale profitable campaigns with Yann Skaalen00:25:28

To reduce your CPL (Cost Per Lead) and scale profitable campaigns, it's crucial to adopt a strategic approach. Start by meticulously analyzing your audience data to target the most promising segments and refine your messaging accordingly. Implement A/B testing to optimize ad creatives, headlines, and landing pages, ensuring they resonate with your target audience. Employ advanced audience targeting options provided by advertising platforms, such as lookalike audiences and custom audience segments. Continuously monitor campaign performance and allocate budgets to the highest-performing channels and campaigns. Leverage automation tools for bid management and ad scheduling to maximize efficiency. Lastly, stay updated with industry trends and competitor strategies to adapt and innovate. By constantly fine-tuning your campaigns and embracing data-driven decision-making, you can lower your CPL while scaling profitable marketing efforts.

In this episode, Joran hosts Yann Skaalen, founder, and CEO of Digtective , a tracking tool. Yann has extensive experience in advertising and tracking since 1999.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro

  • (1:30) Why you should listen to Yann

  • (1:55) What is a successful ad campaign?

  • (2:48) How GDPR has affected the digital advertising landscape

  • (5:04) Common mistakes companies make while setting up their ad campaigns?

  • (8:31)  The process of decreasing the cost per lead

  • (11:06) Challenges and obstacles experienced while decreasing the CPLs

  • (13:20)  When to start running paid ads as a company?

  • (15:00) The future of ad tracking

  • (17:40) SaaS growth advice How to grow to 10k monthly recurring revenue

16 Apr 2024S3E20 - How to sell Enterprise SaaS, Learn from a 100M+ ARR founder With Jim Yu00:43:41

Wondering how to sell enterprise SaaS? Well prepare to learn from a 100M+ ARR founder. In this episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, Host Joran Hofman dives into a conversation with Jim Yu, the founder and exec chair at BrightEdge, exploring the ins and outs of building and selling enterprise SaaS.

Jim generously shares his journey, reflecting on the hurdles and lessons learned along the way. He stresses the importance of laying a solid foundation before scaling, understanding the nuances of sales strategies, and cultivating advocates within enterprises. 

Furthermore, Jim delves into the necessity of a structured approach, the creation of effective playbooks, and staying attuned to the macroeconomic landscape. Offering invaluable advice to SaaS founders, Jim advocates for continuous iteration and optimization of value propositions, customer acquisition costs, and lifetime value.

Drawing from his experience in growing BrightEdge to over $100 million ARR, Jim's insights shed light on the intricate world of enterprise SaaS.

Key Timecodes

  • 1. Show Intro - (00:00)
  • 2. Guest Intro - (00:36)
  • 3. Jim's Background and Experience - (01:05)
  • 4. Early Days of SaaS and Salesforce - (02:15)
  • 5. Starting BrightEdge - (03:04)
  • 6. Enterprise SaaS vs. SMB SaaS - (03:18)
  • 7. Importance of Sales Team in Enterprise SaaS - (05:13)
  • 8. Growth of BrightEdge - (08:12)
  • 9. Mistakes Made in Enterprise SaaS - (19:53)
  • 10. Strategies for Selling Enterprise SaaS - (24:50)
  • 11. Challenges Faced in Enterprise Sales - (28:14)
  • 12. Quick Wins in Procurement Process - (33:13)
  • 13. Advice for Starting and Growing SaaS - (35:31)
  • 14. Advice for Scaling to $10 Million ARR - (36:40)
  • 15. General Advice for SaaS Founders - (39:29)
  • 16. One Thing Wished Known 10 Years Ago - (40:28)
16 Jul 2024S4E12 - Learnings & Advice from Second-Time SaaS Founder With Gary Amaral00:36:34

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Host Joran interviews Gary Amaral, the co-founder and CMO of two SaaS companies, Unkover and Breadcrumbs. Gary shares his journey, insights, and challenges in building these companies, along with practical advice for SaaS founders.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) - Introduction of Guest
  • (00:50) - Guest Introduction and Background
  • (01:22) - Startup Origins and Revenue Discussion
  • (02:40) - Product and Service Revenue Breakdown
  • (04:11) - Unkover's Features and Customer Insights
  • (05:32) - Gary's Entrepreneurial Journey
  • (07:31) - Motivation and Personal Goals
  • (08:46) - Birth of Unkover
  • (12:24) - Y Combinator Experience
  • (13:12) - Overcoming Rock Bottom Moments
  • (17:17) - Major Company Challenges
  • (19:35) - Successful Go-to-Market Strategies
  • (22:00) - Rapid Domain Authority Growth
  • (23:17) - Outbound Strategies
  • (26:34) - Scalability and Learning from YC
  • (29:01) - Leveraging AI and New Technologies
  • (32:12) - Advice for Early-Stage SaaS Founders
  • (33:33) - Advice for Scaling to 10M ARR
  • (34:39) - Episode Summary
  • (35:56) - Closing Remarks
28 Nov 2023S2E21 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10k MRR? Advice from 20 experts.00:26:01

In season 2 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests the same question: "What kind of advice would they give a B2B SaaS founder growing to 10K MRR?" We want to save you a lot of time in this summary episode, as we combined all the answers into one single episode.

Are you looking to grow your SaaS and unsure how to surpass the 10k Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR) mark? This podcast episode will be packed with great advice. All the guests will give practical advice on how to grow your SaaS and make it successful in the long term. Learn from industry experts.


Since we asked all the guests the same question, but they covered different aspects, you will be able to get many other answers. Want an even quicker way to digest the information?

Season 2 guests list and Topics covered


  1. How to run profitable ads - Michael Damnjanovic
  2. Why should someone buy your SaaS now - Michael Humblet
  3. How to build a strong culture - Mads Wedderkopp
  4. How to sell your SaaS - Thomas Smale
  5. How to leverage SEO - Maeva Cifuentes
  6. How to do revenue attribution - Steffen Hedebrandt
  7. How to build a B2B SaaS community - Mike Rizzo
  8. How to improve your User Onboarding -Ildefonso Prieto
  9. How to do product marketing for your SaaS - Alex Levin
  10. How to build and grow a SaaS sales team - James Ski
  11. How to reduce your CPL and scale profitable ads - Yann A. Skaalen
  12. How to bootstrap your B2B SaaS to 10m+ exit - Andrew Gazdecki
  13. How to secure an early-stage investment - Lotte Geldermans
  14. How to get capital as a bootstrapper - Nathan Latka
  15. How to plan, predict & and prove your GTM - Mark Stouse
  16. How to achieve Product Market Fit - Andy Karuza
  17. How to leverage marketing automation - Shay Howe
  18. How to become profitable with your SaaS - Melissa Kwan
  19. How to go from PMF to GTM success - Joyce Mackenzie Liu
  20. Why you should hire globally - Amir Reiter
28 May 2024S4E5 - How Involve.me bootstrapped to 7 figures in ARR | Lessons learned With Vlad Gozman00:38:44

In this insightful and engaging podcast episode, Vlad Gozman, the founder of Involve.Me, shares his entrepreneurial journey and valuable lessons learned along the way. 

From starting his first company straight out of university to pivoting and growing Involve.Me into a successful SaaS company, Vlad's experiences offer a wealth of wisdom for aspiring SaaS founders.

He emphasizes the importance of validation, building a strong team, leveraging AI effectively, and the power of partnerships in scaling a SaaS business. 

Tune in to discover practical advice and inspiring insights from Vlad's entrepreneurial journey to help you navigate the challenges and opportunities in the SaaS world.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:29) Introduction and Background
  • (01:25) Evolution of Involve.Me's Product
  • (02:58) Mission and Product Description
  • (03:54) Entrepreneurial Journey and Motivation
  • (05:34) Long-Term Goals and Motivation
  • (08:02) Pivoting from VR to Interactive Content
  • (10:51) Overcoming Challenges and Rock Bottom Moments
  • (16:22) Leveraging Reditus for Marketing
  • (22:54) Leveraging AI in InvolveMe
  • (25:51) Advice for SaaS Founders at Different Stages
22 Oct 2024S5E5 - How to Mold your GTM Team into a Revenue Factory00:50:02

Scaling revenue operations effectively is essential to long-term success for any B2B SaaS company. Jacco van der Kooij, the founder of Winning by Design and author of Revenue Architecture, offers invaluable wisdom on creating a sales framework that adapts to the modern business environment. His insights are especially crucial for SaaS companies seeking to grow strategically, streamline their go-to-market strategies, and drive sustainable revenue. Let’s dive into some of the key takeaways from Jacco’s approach to building a winning revenue architecture.

Key Timecodes (0:00) - Introduction to the Episode
(1:24) - Welcome and Initial Conversation
(1:51) - Defining Revenue Architecture
(3:03) - When to Start Building Revenue Architecture
(3:45) - Getting Ready for the Next Step
(4:45) - Key Steps Before Scaling
(6:11) - Differences Between US and EU Markets
(8:06) - Bad Fit for Revenue Architecture
(9:05) - Aligning Sales with Customer Journey
(12:16) - Customer-Driven Buying Process
(14:52) - Knowledge Asymmetry Flip
(16:13) - Setting Up Successful Revenue Architecture
(17:41) - Establishing Go-To-Market Motions
(21:05) - Experimentation Phase
(22:19) - Go-To-Market Fit vs. Product-Market Fit
(27:56) - Implementing Revenue Architecture Without AI
(36:21) - Future of Revenue Architecture with AI
(38:48) - Growing to 10K MRR Advice
(39:39) - Scaling to 10 Million ARR Advice
(42:48) - Summary and Key Takeaways
(48:51) - Final Thoughts on Education and AI

12 Dec 2023S3E2 - How to audit your SaaS growth? With Asia Orangio00:43:12

What is SaaS growth and why is it important to audit your SaaS growth? In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, host Joran Hofman is joined by Asia Orangio, founder and CEO of DemandMaven, a growth consulting firm that assists SaaS companies in identifying their best growth opportunities. Together, they discuss the importance of auditing SaaS growth and provide valuable insights and strategies on how to conduct a growth audit. With a focus on revenue, retention, and sustainable growth, Asia shares her expertise from working with numerous SaaS founders and growth teams over the years. Asia has extensive experience working with and advising SaaS founders and growth teams for the last six years, and has worked with companies of all sizes and stages of growth. Her expertise spans from early-stage MVPs to scaling up, making her a valuable guest for discussing SaaS growth audits. Tune in to gain actionable advice and learn from the experiences of industry experts. Key Timecodes

  • (0:43) Show and guest intro
  • (1:24) Why you should listen to Asia Orangio
  • (2:13) What is SaaS Growth?
  • (3:30) Why should founders care about auditing their growth?
  • (5:52) At what point  should you prioritize auditing your growth?
  • (7:01) The strategies or processes to use for audit growth?
  • (13:10) The common mistakes companies make while auditing their growth
  • (18:51) What are the best practices for identifying growth opportunities or conducting a growth audit?
  • (23:12) Challenges and obstacles faced while doing the audit growth
  • (27:57) The future of growth audit
  • (31:22) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (34:01) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (37:39) Asia’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (39:46) What Asia wishes she knew 10 years ago
30 Apr 2024S4E1 - How to bootstrap two SaaS companies to a combined $10M ARR With Michael Kamleitner00:32:53

When embarking on the journey of building a Software as a Service (SaaS) company, founders often face a many challenges at different stages of growth. One crucial aspect that cannot be overlooked is the process of finding the right people to fill key positions within the organization. Whether it's identifying the perfect fit for a lead role or building a strong management team, the importance of having the right individuals in place cannot be understated. This task requires a keen eye for compatibility in terms of go-to-market strategies, target audience alignment, and overall vision for the company's growth. 

In the Season 4 opener of the Grow your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran Hofman engages in a candid conversation with Michael Kamleitner, CEO at Walls.io and Founder at Swat.io. Together, they explore Kamleitner's journey in bootstrapping two successful SaaS companies to a combined $10 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR). Key Timecodes

  • Show intro - (0:00)
  • Introduction of Michael Kamleitner - (0:28)
  • Founding of SWAT.IO and WALS - (1:09)
  • SWAT.IO as the first startup - (1:24)
  • Entrepreneurship aspirations - (1:32)
  • End goals for both companies - (1:39)
  • Motivation behind running two companies - (1:48)
  • Current ARR of both companies -(2:14)
  • Total number of employees - (2:31)
  • Funding status of the companies -(2:38)
  • Decision on bootstrapping vs. funding - (3:04)
  • Ideation process for startups - (3:53)
  • Importance of agency experience in product ideas - (4:30)
  • Achieving product-market fit - (5:05)
  • Transition from service model to software - (6:18)
  • Challenges of transitioning from agency to SaaS - (7:28)
  • Go-to-market strategy evolution - (8:08)
  • Shift from sales-led to product-led growth - (8:51)
  • Importance of content marketing and SEO - (10:36)
  • Challenges with differentiation and pricing - (14:08)
  • Handling unexpected costs in business - (19:42)
  • Lessons learned from Twitter API cost incident - (21:32)
  • Advice on hiring and building a strong team - (29:20)
  • Importance of networking and community support - (31:18)
11 Apr 2023S1E10 - How to bootstrap your SaaS to 7M ARR with Stefan Smulders00:33:35

Learn from Stefan Smulders, founder of Expandi. He shares all his knowledge on how he bootstrapped Expandi past 7M ARR. He shares everything..

He is currently Scaling his SaaS bootstrapped to $10M ARR. He is a real-life coach for aspiring SaaS entrepreneurs, particularly those who choose the bootstrap approach. He is as honest as he can be about his experiences, including his successes and failures as an entrepreneur.

Learn more about our guest: Stefan Smulders, Founder of ⁠Expandi⁠.

Timecodes

  • (0:30) Introduction of topic and guest expert
  • (1:35) Why you need to listen to Stefan
  • (2:16) How many Failures has he had before starting Expandi?
  • (06:35) How did he know Expandi would be a success
  • (07:40) How has he managed to stay bootstrapped for a long time?
  • (12:12) Did he consider raising funding when money started running out?
  • (13:37) Challenging aspect of bootstrapping his company
  • (17:38) What would he do differently today?
  • (19:56) Elements for the success of Expandi
  • (24:26) Providing value to the end-user through differentiation
  • (28:05) Advice to SaaS beginner earning 10k MRR
  • (29:47) Advice to SaaS founders earning 1M ARR
  • (30:54) How to reach Stefan  on Social media
11 Jul 2023S2E1 - How to run profitable ad campaigns? With Michael Damnjanovic00:26:36

A profitable ad campaign is a marketing initiative that generates a positive return on investment (ROI) and achieves the desired objectives within a specified budget. In other words, it is an advertising campaign that brings in more revenue or value than the cost of running the campaign. The big question is, how do you run successful and profitable ad campaigns?

The profitability of an ad campaign is typically measured by analyzing key performance indicators (KPIs) such as conversion rates, cost per acquisition (CPA), return on ad spend (ROAS), and overall ROI. If these metrics indicate that the revenue or value generated from the campaign exceeds the costs incurred, then the campaign is considered profitable.

In this episode 1 of season 2 on The Grow your B2B SaaS Podcast , Joran Hofman hosts Today's subject matter expert is Michael Damnjanovic, CCO of Adline, an ad SaaS that helps clients make value-driving ads by leveraging artificial intelligence.

Key Timecode

  • (0:44) Introduction of topic and guest expert
  • (01:21) Why you should listen to Mike
  • (02:40) Minimal requirements for running ads
  • (11:20) What is a profitable ad campaign
  • (12:45) Steps to running a profitable ad
  • (18:06) Role of artificial intelligence in creating effective ads
  •  (20:03) Multi-channel marketing strategies
  • (21:22) Advice to SaaS founders with 10K MRR
  • (23:24) Advice to SaaS founder with 10M ARR
  • (23:58) What he wishes he had known a decade ago
  • (25:13) Mike's contact information: LinkedIn, podcast, Adline.com
05 Dec 2023S3E1 - How to achieve Product Led Growth for your SaaS With Wes Bush00:37:35

How can you achieve successful product-led growth for your SaaS? We dive into this topic with the author of the bestselling book “Product-Led Growth”; Wes Bush. We will discuss everything from the core principles and significance of product-led growth (PLG) to how to implement PLG and overcome the most common challenges. 

Wes dispels the common misconception that PLG is solely about free trials or freemium models, breaking it down into three essential components: acquisition, product experience, and monetization. 

Subject matter guest expert Wes goes beyond the misconception that it's solely about free trials or freemium models. Instead, he breaks down the essence of product-led growth into three key components: acquisition, product experience, and monetization. It's about seamlessly guiding users from discovery to value realization and ultimately converting them into paying customers without direct sales intervention.

Key Timecodes Wes Bush

  • (0:42) Show and guest intro

  • (1:19) Why you should listen to Wes Bush

  • (2:00) What is product-led growth?

  • (3:40) Why should people care about product-led growth?

  • (5:26) The common mistakes companies make while trying to achieve product-led growth

  • (9:14)  The strategies and processes to implement product-led growth

  • (19:08) How to deal with people signing up who are not within your ICP

  • (23:28) The best practices for doing product-led growth well.

  • (25:19) Challenges and obstacles faced while doing product-led growth

  • (27:28) The future of product-led growth

  • (30:17) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (31:48) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (33:03) Wes’ crucial advice to SaaS founders

  • (23:14) What Wes wishes he knew 10 years ago

29 Aug 2023S2E8 - How to improve your user onboarding? with Ildefonso Prieto00:40:09

How do you improve your user onboarding? Effective user onboarding is crucial for driving user engagement and retention on your platform. A seamless onboarding process welcomes new users, guiding them through your product's key features and benefits, while minimizing any potential hurdles. By implementing a user-centric onboarding strategy, you can ensure that users quickly grasp how to navigate and utilize your platform, leading to higher satisfaction levels and increased usage over time. Tailoring the onboarding experience to address user needs and pain points not only accelerates their journey to becoming proficient users but also cultivates a positive and lasting impression of your brand. In this episode, show host Joran Hofman speaks to subject matter expert Ildefonso Prieto to discuss how to improve your user onboarding. Ildefonso is a product growth consultant who helps SaaS companies grow their free-to-paid conversions. Key Timecodes

  • (0:30) Show and guest intro
  • (1:12) Why you should listen to Ildefonso Prieto 
  • (5:35) What is User onboarding?
  • (8:17) Why do most users drop off?
  • (12:50) What you need to have in place before Improving User Onboarding.
  • (16:00) Steps to take to improve your user onboarding
  • (18:18) Know how to bake your “cake” properly
  • (25:58) The right time to reach out to a growth consultant
  • (32:41) Growth level SaaS Advice (How to grow to 10K MRR and 10M ARR)
20 Aug 2024S4E17 - How to build a startup within a Corporate? Building Respona within Visme With Farzad Rashidi00:40:45

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran sits down with Farzad Rashidi, the co-founder and driving force behind Respona. Farzad reveals how Respona, a startup born within VisMe, a massive platform with 20 million users navigated the exciting journey of growing from an in-house tool to a thriving business.

Farzad shares the ups and downs of building a startup inside a big company, the critical role of SEO in their growth, and the valuable lessons learned from engaging directly with customers. Plus, he offers insider tips on how Respona uses AI to stay ahead and why focusing on the right audience is key to success.

Tune in for actionable tips and real-world advice from someone who’s turned a startup dream into a profitable reality.

Key Time Codes

  • (00:00) - Onboarding Customers and Changing Affiliates
  • (01:00) - Introduction to Farzad and Respona
  • (01:52) - How Respona Was Born
  • (04:56) - Respona's Growth and Team
  • (05:47) - Respona's SaaS Features
  • (07:09) - Farzad’s Career and Entrepreneurial Spirit
  • (08:01) - Future Goals for Respona
  • (08:47) - Motivations and Beta Challenges
  • (10:51) - Startup Life Under VisMe
  • (13:55) - Lessons from Tough Times
  • (22:51) - Effective Growth Strategies
  • (28:04) - AI and Affiliate Tips
  • (32:36) - Farzad’s Tips for SaaS Success
  • (39:34) - How to Connect with Farzad
19 Sep 2024S4E22 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10M ARR? Advice from 20 experts00:28:08

Are you wondering how to grow your B2B SaaS towards 10M ARR?

In Season 4 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests a crucial question: “What advice would you give to a B2B SaaS founder aiming to reach $10,000,000 in Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR)?” We’ve compiled their answers into one special episode, which you can listen to in under 30 minutes.

If you’re looking to grow your SaaS business and need help surpassing the $10,000,000 ARR mark, this episode is a must-listen. It’s packed with practical advice from industry experts who share their strategies and tips for achieving long-term success.

The episode features diverse perspectives from experienced professionals, providing you with a range of actionable insights. Whether you need advice on marketing, sales, or customer retention, you’ll find valuable information to help you move forward.

If you find any particular guest’s advice particularly helpful, we recommend checking out their full episodes for even more in-depth guidance. Each guest’s individual episode offers additional tips and detailed strategies that can further support your growth efforts.

In short, this episode gathers the best advice from Season 4’s guests to help you overcome the $10,000,000 ARR hurdle. Tune in to gain valuable insights and practical advice that can make a significant impact on your SaaS business.

Season 4 guests of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast

04 Jul 2023S1E22 - How To Grow Your B2B SaaS To $1 Million ARR00:31:43

Growing a B2B SaaS (Software as a Service) company to $1 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR) requires a well-planned strategy and consistent execution. While there is no one-size-fits-all approach, On the Growth Your B2B SaaS podcast, we hosted 20 quest experts on various subject matters. We asked them for this precious advice on how to grow your SaaS to 1 million ARR. If you aren't at this stage yet, then you will greatly benefit from our previous episode, where our guest experts advised on some of the key steps to help you get to 10k MRR. To move from 10k MRR to $1 million ARR our guest experts agree on some of the critical steps to take. Listen in and learn. Enjoy!

16 Jan 2024S3E7 - How to price your B2B SaaS to accelerate growth? with Wolter Rebergen00:33:51

What is your pricing approach for your B2B SaaS, and what metrics guide your pricing decisions? Additionally, how do you package your product? In this episode of the 'Grow Your B2B SaaS' podcast, host Joran Hofman engages in a deep dive with Wolter Rebergen, VP of Revenue Operations at Younium, to understand B2B SaaS pricing better. The discussion highlights the significance of effective pricing in fostering B2B SaaS growth, the evolving trends, and its pivotal role in startup success. Drawing from his wealth of experience with various B2B SaaS companies, Wolter shares valuable insights and expertise.

Key Timecode

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro
  • (1:30) Why you should listen to Wolter Rebergen
  • (2:18) The Crucial Role of Pricing in B2B SaaS: A Key Factor for Startup Success
  • (3:29) How important is pricing for your go to market strategy?
  • (5:18) The Significance of Pricing After Achieving Product-Market Fit 
  • (6:35) The common Pricing Mistakes in B2B SaaS Companies
  • (11:04) The best pricing practices to implement.
  • (9:18) The challenges companies run into when setting their pricing
  • (13:19) Wolter’s different model packages
  • (19:04) Challenges companies run into when setting their pricing
  • (21:42) The future of SaaS pricing
  • (25:29) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (26:40) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (28:22) Wolter’s crucial advice to B2B SaaS founders
12 Sep 2023S2E10 - How to build and grow a B2B SaaS Sales team? With James Ski00:26:53

To build and grow a high-performing B2B SaaS sales team, it's essential to follow a strategic approach. Start by defining your ideal customer profile and understanding their pain points thoroughly. Then, hire sales professionals with a deep understanding of your industry and product. Provide comprehensive training and ongoing coaching to ensure they are well-equipped to communicate the unique value proposition of your SaaS solution. Implement robust CRM and sales enablement tools to streamline processes and track performance metrics. Foster a culture of collaboration and continuous improvement within your team, encouraging knowledge sharing and experimentation with various sales strategies. Additionally, invest in content marketing, thought leadership and social selling to generate leads and establish credibility in your industry. Regularly analyze data and adjust your strategies based on performance, ensuring a scalable and sustainable growth trajectory for your B2B SaaS sales team.

In this episode of the "Grow Your B2B SaaS" podcast, host Joran welcomes James Ski, founder and CEO of Sales Confidence, SaaS Growth Event founder, public speaker, and author. The discussion centers on the evolving landscape of sales strategies and the crucial role of building a sales team in today's SaaS environment. Key Timestamps

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro
  • (1:30) Why you should listen to James Sky
  • (2:34) The different roles within sales
  • (3:30) When to hire a salesperson
  • (5:12) What needs to be in place before hiring a salesperson?
  • (6:02) Common mistakes companies make when hiring a salesperson
  • (7:06) Common mistakes companies make while growing a team
  • (8:16) The effective strategies and processes implemented to make your sales team successful
  • (9:06) How to do an effective product pitch to your prospects
  • (11:51) How to keep your sales team motivated
  • (13:53) When does a salesperson come into play?
  • (14:42) James’ thoughts on product-led growth strategy
  • (16:00) How to qualify leads in the sales process
  • ( 16:42) The importance of the mental well-being of a sales team
  • (18:31) How Sales team members can take rests and time off without worrying about their next paycheck
  • (19:43) How founders can benefit from James’ Sales team network
  • (21:25) SaaS building growth advice (growing to 10K MRR & 1M ARR)
  • (24:54) What James wishes he had known 10 years ago
28 Mar 2023S1E8 - How To Grow A Network To Kickstart Growth With Alexander Theuma00:34:03

How can you build a network help to grow your B2B SaaS?

In today's episode, we host Alexander Theuma, the founder of Saastock, whose sole responsibility is to grow a network community in SaaS by organizing conferences that bring different people with different roles in the business. Over the last eight years, Alexander has proved himself to be an effective community organizer devoted to strong networks, community, content, building audiences, and events. He has also engaged with thousands of SaaS founders and gained actionable experience in building a conference business and how to scale it. From this episode, Alexander reveals that he niched into B2B Saas as he fell in love by design through undertaking sales for other people. The gap in the SaaS market inspired him to start a blog for the vendor-neutral community, where he sought experts to give their insight in his podcast. He takes pleasure in helping and serving the SaaS community by sharing the stories of those who have experienced the challenges of growing their recurring revenue business. What is the difference between a Network and a community? - Alexander explains that networks are born from a community. In his experience, his community came first through meetups with a small group of contributors to his blog. He was able to help the community build and grow. After that, he built a network by connecting with people from the community events and the audience of his podcast. Community building provided him with a product that he could offer to the community. Building a network is more self-rewarding because it enables you to grow a targeted contact list in the industry to grow your network.  What are the most effective ways of Building a good network, and why is it important? - our guest expert shares that a strong network enables you to reach relevant people for introduction, advice, and feedback. Founders that build or have a network have a competitive advantage over their competition. Those who never act towards building a network always remain a step behind in their growth. Some of the most effective network-building strategies include running a podcast, doing meetups, organizing events, and reaching out. When building a network, founders find themselves making mistakes. Our guest expert shares some common mistakes made. Alexander cautions against seeking too much too soon before building and maintaining relationships and delivering value. It is crucial to approach building a network as a long-term endeavor instead of a quick fix.  Key Timecodes

  • (0:30) Introduction to today’s topic and guest expert
  • (1:48) Why you need to listen to Alexander
  • (03:56) What interests him most about B2B SaaS
  • (07:48) Network versus community
  • (10:40) Building a good network and its importance.
  • (12:50) Common mistakes for founders building a network
  • (15:20) Challenges and successes in building a community for SaaStock
  • (22:26) Best practice process for growing a community
  • (24:25) Role of affiliate marketing in building their networking
  • (27:51) Advice to SaaS founders with growing networks
  • (29:57) Advice to SaaS founders with 1 million ARR
  • (32:40) Alexander’s contact information
20 Jun 2023S1E20 - What is Affiliate Marketing? With John Wright00:37:23

What is affiliate marketing? And why is it important for you to set up an affiliate program for your business? On The Grow your B2B SaaS Podcast , Joran Hofman hosts ⁠John Wright⁠ the Co-Founder at ⁠StatsDrone⁠. Having been in the industry for the past couple of decades, John leverages his academic engineering background to use data for business intelligence. He is keen to share his knowledge in affiliate marketing and business intelligence, which are increasingly important areas for SaaS founders in the digital business environment. 

Key Timecodes

  • (0:40) Introduction of today's topic and guest expert
  • (01:27) Why you should listen to John
  • (02:42) What is affiliate marketing
  • (03:53) Why a B2B Saas should set up an affiliate program
  • (07:44) Common mistakes for SaaS when establishing an affiliate marketing program
  • (12:08) Strategies for scaling an affiliate program:
  • (16:35) Ideal sources of affiliates for a B2B SaaS:
  • (21:29) Challenges in growing an affiliate program
  • (22:34) The future of affiliate marketing
  • (28:00) Advice to SaaS founder with 10K MRR:
  • (31:08) Advice to SaaS with 1M ARR
  • (35:53) John's contact information
20 Feb 2024S3E12 - How to unify Sales, Marketing & SDR’s in your GTM strategy With Chris Walker00:40:22

Ever wondered How to unify Sales, Marketing & SDR’s in your GTM strategy? Well, In this insightful episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we welcome Chris Walker, CEO of Passetto, a leading GTM consultancy, and Executive Chairman at Refine Labs. With his acclaimed podcast, Revenue Vitals, Chris brings extensive expertise to the table, emphasizing the crucial role of aligning sales, marketing, and SDRs for sustained growth.

Learn valuable strategies for harmonizing sales, marketing, and SDR efforts in your go-to-market approach. Discover the significance of data-driven decision-making, customer-centric methodologies, and strategic cohesion for long-term success in the dynamic B2B landscape.

Chris Walker's expert insights and strategic vision provide actionable guidance for SaaS founders and GTM professionals eager to optimize strategies and achieve business excellence. Tune in and transform your GTM approach today!


Key Timecode

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro

  • (2:43) Why you should listen to Chris Walker

  • (4:12) What is a B2B go to market strategy?

  • (5:05) What is dark social?

  • (6:21) The common mistakes companies make while trying to executing on their go to market strategy

  •  (12:57)The recommended process or steps to follow to execute a successful  go to market strategy

  • (17:44) The common challenges companies face while implementing go to market strategy

  • (24:42) The future of B2B go to market

  • (27:45) Chris’ opinion on leveraging affiliate marketing for B2B SaaS companies

  • 31:00) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (32:11) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (36:46) What Chris wishes He knew 10 years ago

19 Mar 2024S3E16 - The Unsexy Truth about Startup Success with Cristobal Alonso00:40:04

What is the unsexy truth about startup success? Building a successful startup isn't easy. Founders face tough challenges while trying to make their vision a reality.

It's commonly stated that founders face the heat in their kitchens but keep cooking nonetheless, and as a result, we primarily see the final product presented without actually knowing what it took to come up with this final product.

In this exciting episode of The Grow your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran Hofman talks with an expert in the field about what it really takes to start and grow a SaaS business. As the CEO of StartupwiseGuys and the author of "Perform: The Unsexy Truth About Startup Success," Cristobal Alonso shares practical advice from his experience in investing and starting businesses. He focuses on what works rather than flashy strategies. Join in as he spills the secrets to making your startup thrive. Key Timecode

[00:00:00.000] - Show Intro

[00:00:37.270] - Guest Intro

[00:02:06.050] - Joran introduces the topic of startup success

[00:03:06.450] - Cristobal defines success in startups

[00:04:21.900] - Cristobal explains the key aspects of startup success from his book

[00:06:01.620] - Common mistake in building a startup: hiring

[00:07:44.480] - Importance of resilient culture in startups

[00:08:59.420] - Implementing the startup success principles

[00:09:44.300] - Differences between European and US startup examples

[00:11:52.220] - Commonalities among successful European founders

[00:15:51.110] - Implementing the startup success framework

[00:17:09.770] - Transition in Accelerator programs towards funding and support

[00:18:33.900] - Advice for founders reaching 10K MRR

[00:19:36.900] - Advice for founders approaching 10 million ARR

[00:30:29.070] - General advice for SaaS founders

[00:35:18.850] - One thing Cristobal wishes he knew 10 years ago

[00:37:44.370] - How to contact Cristobal

13 Feb 2024S3E11 - How to Achieve Explosive Growth and Increase Profitability with Stefan Avivson00:36:04

What is explosive growth and increased profitability, and How can you achieve explosive growth and Increase profitability? To help us understand this topic in the context of B2B SaaS companies, show host Joran Hofman invites subject matter expert Stefan Avivson. As a seasoned entrepreneur, Stefan commonly known as Mister Raw, recounts his journey of starting and selling multiple companies, along with the valuable lessons learned from both failures and successes. His focus on helping startups unlock their full potential and drive revenue growth is highlighted. Stefan shares his extensive entrepreneurial experience and insights gained from mentoring startups. Key Timecodes

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro
  • (1:14) Why you should listen to Stefan Avivson
  • (3:27) What does a mentor do?
  • (5:40) What is explosive growth and increased profitability?
  • (13:04) common mistakes companies make while trying to achieve explosive growth and increase profitability. 
  •  (15:25) How to test the willingness to pay
  • (19:31) The best practices to achieve real traction and product market fit 
  • (22:04) The common challenges in startups
  • (25:05) Stefan’s advice on reaching and growing your profitability
  • (28:26) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (29:28) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
07 Feb 2023S1E1 - UI/UX Design, Importance & Best Practices With Peter Loving00:37:31

The UX & UI of your B2B SaaS will determine the success you will have.

Whether you are going for product-led, sales-led, or any other growth strategy. Users will need to understand and like the product. This is where UX & UI comes into place.

Our guest Peter clearly spells out his credentials and why you need to afford him a listening ear as he discusses all things UX/UI. Can you draw the border between these two tech words often used interchangeably? Peter helps us to decipher the meaning and difference between these two design slangs. He shares with us what he regards as the genesis point and ending of UX in SaaS. Appropriately, he illuminates the process of improving your UX/UI. In this pilot episode, our guest shares free advice to both beginner and established B2B SaaS companies. Peter loops in the metrics to measure the success of design efforts in UX/UI as well as the best time for a company to seek the services of a B2B SaaS agency.

Towards the conclusion, Peter denotes the need to learn how UX/UI design can deliver more value for your company. In general, this first episode of the B2B Saas podcast is filled with helpful information pertaining to UX/UI. You can count on enriching your knowledge after listening. Enjoy. 

Key Timecodes

  •  (1:41) Why you should listen to Peter 
  • (2:51) The difference between UX and UI (user experience and aesthetics) 
  • (5:21) What he loves about SaaS 
  • (7:10) Why he transitioned from traditional industrial product design to the virtual SaaS
  • (8:45) What are the common mistakes most B2B SaaS companies make  
  • (14:08) What is a design system in B2B SaaS? 
  • (15:11) The starting and ending point of UX in SaaS
  • (17:08) Steps for improving your UX 
  • (19:30) Metrics to measure the success of design efforts in B2B Saas)
  •  (24:39) The best time for a company to seek a B2B SaaS agency 
  • (28:06) Advice to beginner B2B Saas companies pre-revenue 
  • (30:48) Advice to revenue-making SaaS companies

This show is hosted by ⁠Joran Hofman⁠, founder of ⁠Reditus⁠.

08 Oct 2024S5E3 - The Playbook of Growing 20+ B2B SaaS Companies: Tim Schumacher’s Guide to SaaS Success00:34:21

In today's world of technology, many entrepreneurs are interested in Software as a Service (SaaS) businesses. But running a successful SaaS company is not always easy. In this episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS host Joran Hofman sits down with Tim Schumacher, co-founder of SaaS Group, who has built a proven playbook for growing 20+ B2B SaaS companies. His playbook gives useful advice on how to overcome challenges and build strong SaaS businesses. SaaS Group has acquired over 20 B2B SaaS companies, and this experience has taught Tim a lot about what it takes for these businesses to thrive.

Key Timestamps

  • (00:00) - Introduction to SaaS Growth Strategies
  • (00:54) - Meet Tim Schumacher: Co-Founder of SaaS Group
  • (01:24) - What is a Bootstrapper Mindset?
  • (03:16) - The Dangers of Overspending in SaaS
  • (05:33) - Tim's Tips: How to Avoid Financial Pitfalls
  • (06:36) - How SaaS Group Optimizes Processes Post-Acquisition
  • (08:43) - Growth Strategies: A Real Example from Typebutler
  • (12:16) - Effective Go-to-Market Strategies for SaaS Success
  • (18:54) - Overcoming Growth Plateaus in SaaS Companies
  • (21:07) - Building the Right Team Beyond $10 Million ARR
  • (27:39) - When and Why SaaS Founders Should Consider Selling
  • (29:05) - Growing to $10K MRR: Tim's Founder's Advice
  • (30:20) - Reaching $10 Million ARR: Building a Strong Team
  • (32:50) - Episode Summary: Key Takeaways for SaaS Success
14 Feb 2023S1E2 - Customer Success: The Importance & Best Practices With Mike Dry 00:41:00

Want to set up or grow your CS team?

Learn how to gain more revenue from your current clients and keep them longer. Mike Dry, Senior director of customer success at Leadfeeder will share the importance of CS and best practices.

Over the past 10 years, he has gathered immense experience working with customers, teams, startups, and established companies. To start things off, we get Mike's definition of customer success within B2B SaaS.

He observes that customer success entails leveraging technology to provide customers with support and the know-how to generate success on the company's product and, in the long term, continue purchasing the product. From the customer's perspective, customer success is having someone on the other end of the firm to speak with to try and solve their problems. In other words, it is having somebody they can bounce ideas with on new ways a product can be used. What is the right time for a company to establish a customer success program? On this, he explains that people need to get value from your product right away.

Establishing a customer success department is an immediate requirement. However, as Mike explains, it is most required when a company is having challenges answering every question that customers have while doing the firm's core operations. What are some effective strategies for getting ahead of the game with customer success? It is crucial to keep accurate data records and create reports on what customers are doing that are relevant to your business.

If you have a B2B SaaS business, for instance, you have to work out the critical determinants for value for your customer and then turn that into a report. Your company's growth is directly related to the value derived from your product. Your customer success team will also find those efforts invaluable. What are the three most important metrics for customer success? It comes down to financial metrics (growth churn, nature, expansion rate) for founders and business executives. The growth churn metric measures how well your product is doing on its own on the market. These expansion metrics enable the firm to see how effectively your sales team sells your customer base. His thoughts on tracking end value as a metric for customer success are also invaluable. He advises the need to seek feedback from the customer on the value derived from the product. Happier customers stay longer and bring return business to your business. You can apply this principle to any SaaS company you can think of. Furthermore, Mike spends some time illuminating some of the strategies and processes for growing your customer success team. He reckons that you should have elaborate metrics for determining the right time to hire somebody. These include workload - increased workload requires more personnel. Also, when you are experiencing diminishing returns, it is about time you hired a professional customer success team to improve the trajectory. Documenting and creating processes help make things easier for management and people coming on board and provide guidelines for customer success. Appropriately, Mike addresses some of the common challenges and obstacles to return rates. He argues that the economies of scale of a company greatly impact customer success levels; thus, smaller companies experience more significant challenges to their return rates than larger companies. If a customer leaves you, thoroughly investigate why they left and what you need to do for the remaining customers to realize greater customer success. At the same time, he provides valuable advice to startup and income-generating companies regarding customer success.

This show is hosted by ⁠Joran Hofman⁠, founder of ⁠Reditus⁠.

27 Jun 2023S1E21 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10k Monthly Recurring Revenue(10k MRR)00:40:53

In season 1 of our podcast, we hosted 20 guest experts on various subject matters. The goal of our podcast is to help other B2 B Saas founders to grow. We asked our guests to share with us tricks and ideas of how to grow your Monthly Recurring Revenue and each expert had his own expert advice. Growing a B2B SaaS (Software as a Service) to $10,000 in monthly recurring revenue (MRR) requires a strategic approach and consistent effort. Here's a brief summary of the key advice and steps you can take to achieve this goal:

  1. Define your target market: Identify a specific niche or industry that can benefit from your SaaS product. Understand their pain points, and needs, and how your solution can address them effectively.
  2. Develop a compelling value proposition: Clearly communicate the unique value your SaaS provides to potential customers. Highlight the benefits, competitive advantages, and the specific problems it solves. This will help you differentiate your product from competitors.
  3. Build a minimum viable product (MVP): Develop an initial version of your SaaS that includes core features and functionality. Keep it simple, user-friendly, and focused on solving the most critical pain points of your target market. Launching an MVP allows you to gather feedback and iterate based on user input.
  4. Acquire early customers: Start by reaching out to your personal network, industry contacts, or potential customers who align with your target market. Offer them free trials, pilot programs, or discounted pricing to encourage adoption. Use their feedback and testimonials to refine your product and messaging.
  5. Implement a scalable sales and marketing strategy: Develop a comprehensive plan to attract and convert leads into paying customers. Utilize various marketing channels such as content marketing, social media, search engine optimization (SEO), and paid advertising. Build a sales process that includes lead nurturing, demos, and clear pricing plans.
  6. Focus on customer success and retention: Happy customers are more likely to stay and refer others. Provide excellent customer support, regular product updates, and continuous improvements based on user feedback. Implement a system to measure customer satisfaction and gather testimonials or case studies to showcase your product's value.
  7. Optimize pricing and packaging: Regularly assess your pricing strategy to ensure it aligns with the value you deliver. Consider offering tiered pricing plans or add-on features that cater to different customer segments. Experiment with pricing and monitor customer response to find the optimal balance between value and affordability.
  8. Expand your customer base: As you acquire more customers, leverage their networks and referrals to reach new prospects. Develop strategic partnerships with complementary businesses or industry influencers to expand your reach. Explore opportunities to collaborate with resellers or offer white-label solutions to penetrate new markets.
  9. Track key metrics and iterate: Continuously monitor key performance indicators (KPIs) such as MRR, customer acquisition cost (CAC), customer lifetime value (CLTV), churn rate, and conversion rates. Analyze the data to identify bottlenecks or areas for improvement. Adjust your strategies and tactics accordingly to optimize growth.
  10. Invest in scaling efforts: As you approach the $10,000 MRR mark, consider scaling your team, infrastructure, and resources to accommodate growth. Hire additional sales and marketing personnel, invest in customer support systems, and optimize your product's scalability and performance.

06 Feb 2024S3E10 - How to implement a profit-led approach for your SaaS with Guillaume Moubeche00:39:03

Wondering how to implement a profit-led approach for your Saas? Well to help us understand this topic, show host  Joran Hofman interviews subject matter Guillaume Moubeche, also known as G. He's the brains behind Lempire, a company famous for its software products like lemwarm, lemcal, taplio, and tweethunterr, all made to help businesses grow. Guillaume's journey is amazing; he took Lempire from zero to $20 million in just five years.

Thanks to Guillaume's smart leadership, Lempire is now valued at $150 million as of 2021. Guillaume's success story has been shared in over 200 media outlets. His hard work and talent for innovation have made Lempire a leader in the software industry

Guillaume discusses the importance of implementing a profit-led approach for SaaS businesses emphasizing the importance of profitability to ensure the sustainability and success of startups. He also discusses the common reasons for startup failures, highlighting the significance of financial stability and the management of cash flow. He stresses the importance of adopting a profit-first mindset and challenges the traditional narrative controlled by VCs, advocating for a more sustainable and profitable approach to business growth.

Guillaume emphasizes the significance of trust in building a successful B2B SaaS business. He introduces the concept of the "trust triangle," which consists of emotional connection, credibility, and reliability. He stresses the importance of establishing and maintaining trust with customers as a key factor in business success.

Guillaume shares insights from his book, emphasizing the central role of trust in growing a business, particularly in the B2B domain. He highlights the pivotal role of trust in business growth, emphasizing the significance of establishing emotional connections, credibility, and reliability with customers. Guillaume stresses the value of providing tangible benefits to customers, such as helping them make more money or save time, while earning their trust through consistent delivery and reliability.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro
  • (1:33) Why you should listen to Guillaume Moubeche
  • (2:39) What is product-led growth?
  • (4:54) The $150 million secret
  •  (9:16) The most common mistakes companies make while trying to implement a profit-led approach
  • (14:05) THe strategies and processes G used to scale Lempire
  • (17:31) Why paying yourself a salary as a founder is important
  • (21:29) How to measure profitability within the company
  • (24:42)  The best practices regarding a  bootstrapping journey
  • (27:51) The 4 things you shouldn't do
  • (33:06) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (34:21) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
25 Jun 2024S4E9 - How to Bootstrap a B2B SaaS to $5M and Beyond With Bridget Harris00:48:59

Are you wondering how to bootstrap a B2B SaaS to $5M and Beyond? In this captivating episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran explores the journey of Bridget Harris, co-founder and CEO of You Can Book Me. Managing over 20,000 customers and 1.5 million bookings each month, Bridget reveals key insights on bootstrapping a successful SaaS business, obsessing over customers, and leading a remote team. Learn how Bridget's strategic decisions and focus on top-notch products propelled You Can Book Me to $5 million in annual revenue. Discover essential frameworks and tips to scale your own B2B SaaS startup, all without external funding. Tune in now for practical advice that could reshape your entrepreneurial path!

Key Timecodes

  • The Origins of You Can Book Me (00:52)
  • Business Metrics and Growth (01:30)
  • Product Overview (02:10)
  • Entrepreneurial Journey (03:05)
  • Achieving Success (03:24)
  • Motivations and Goals (04:13)
  • Pivoting to Success (05:53)
  • Bootstrapping Philosophy (07:15)
  • Rock Bottom Moments(09:09)
  • Handling Growth and Change (12:41)
  • Viral Growth and Market Strategy (18:18)
  • Internal Processes and Traction (23:29)
  • Focusing on Customers and Pricing (29:51)
  • Advice for Startups (37:22)
  • Scaling to 10 Million ARR (40:32)
25 Apr 2023S1E12 - Hitting #1 on ProductHunt with no Marketing team with Robin Singhvi00:28:38

What is Product Hunt? And why is it important to your B2B Saas? Becoming the number one searched product is not a walk in the park. Growing visibility of your product is crucial to the growth of your B2B SaaS business. One of the best ways to achieve this high visibility is by leveraging the networks of other sites.


In today’s episode, we host Robin Singhvi, the founder of SmartCue. Robin is a product hunt expert, and in this episode, he will teach us some tricks and hacks for having your product rank number one without a marketing team. 


Why you should listen to Robin – He has been part of many startups, which all had exits. Robin is also well-traveled and experienced, having lived in the US, India, and Europe. Singularly, he managed to rank #1 on Product Hunt without the help of a marketing team.


What is Product Hunt? – Robin speaks of Product Hunt as a distribution channel, like LinkedIn, email, affiliate marketing and sites like Reddit. However, Product Hunt gives you almost instant visibility to thousands of people. As a result, your business can get the attention of potential investors much faster, as well as increase revenue.


Why SaaS companies need to list on Product Hunt – SaaS companies stand to benefit greatly from Product Hunt in terms of increased visibility and fast and valuable user product. In addition, Product Hunt allows for effective testing of your product positioning.


Why ranking number 1 on Product Hunt matters – Ranking number one on Product Hunt greatly benefits a SaaS business. It gives the company high credibility with other SaaS companies seeking to affiliate with the business. It can also bring more traffic, leads, signups, partnerships, and investors.


Common mistakes when launching on Product Hunt – Robin observes that most companies often treat their product launch as an after-thought as opposed to being part of the plan from the word go. Given product launch on the site is highly competitive, it is necessary to plan ahead by engaging with the community. Also, some companies lack authenticity and thus force things without a working strategy that entails building awareness.

Strategies for launching on Product Hunt – Our guest expert advises a startup to utilize 60 days pre-launch to get things in order. This period should go into building a community and awareness. Leveraging communication channels and testing product positioning, among other go-to-market strategies, is important.

 

Key Time codes

  • (0:30) Introduction of today’s topic and guest expert
  • (1:34) Why you should listen to Robin
  • (2:34) What is Product Hunt
  • (3:15) Why SaaS companies need to list on Product Hunt
  • (4:00) Why ranking number 1 on Product Hunt matters
  • (6:35) Common mistakes when launching on Product Hunt
  • (8:32) Strategies for launching on Product Hunt
  • (10:40) Recommendations for pre-launch
  • (13:10­) Best practices during the actual launch on Product Hunt
  • (15:55) How he landed one of the best hunters for his launch
  • (17:21) Things to do post-launch
  • (19:55) About his next product launch
  • (22:10) Advice to startups with 10k MRR
  • (23:50) Advice to businesses with 1M ARR
  • (26:40) Robin’s contact information
21 Nov 2023S2E20 - Why you should hire globally as a SaaS company? With Amir Reiter00:25:33

Why should you hire globally as a SaaS company? In this episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we delve into the crucial topic of the importance of global hiring for SaaS companies. Our guest, Amir Reiter, CEO and founder of CloudTask, a prominent B2B sales solution marketplace, brings his expertise, drawing from experiences at companies like Drift, HubSpot, and NetSuite. 

Amir shares insights on the evolving dynamics of work, emphasizing the significance of seeking talent on a global scale, especially post-COVID. Whether expanding your SaaS business or contemplating international hires, this episode is a must-listen. We explore the keys to successful global hiring, distinguish between outsourcing and global hiring, and highlight the transformative impact on both businesses and the lives of those working globally. Tune in for invaluable perspectives!

Key Timecodes 

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro
  • (1:11) Why you should listen to Amir Reiter
  • (1:43) When should global hiring be considered?
  • (3:15) Why should companies care about outsourcing? 
  • (5:32) Benefits of hiring globally 
  • (6:46)  Common mistakes companies make while hiring globally?
  • (8:19)  Proven Strategies or processes for effectively scaling a global team
  • (9:20) How to treat your remote team
  • (10:23) What is the correlation between hiring contractors and profitability?
  • (11:28) How to make your first global hire. What to look out for in contractors
  • (13:17) The challenges companies run into while hiring globally?
  • (17:30) The big changes happening  now in hiring? The post COVID hiring
  • (19:48) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (20:52) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (21:22) Amir’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (23:14) What Amir wishes he knew 10 years ago
17 Sep 2024S4E21 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10K MRR? Advice from 20 experts00:30:09

In Season 4 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests a crucial question: “What advice would you give to a B2B SaaS founder aiming to reach $10,000 in Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR)?” We’ve compiled their answers into one special episode, which you can listen to in under 30 minutes.

If you’re looking to grow your SaaS business and need help surpassing the $10,000 MRR mark, this episode is a must-listen. It’s packed with practical advice from industry experts who share their strategies and tips for achieving long-term success.

The episode features diverse perspectives from experienced professionals, providing you with a range of actionable insights. Whether you need advice on marketing, sales, or customer retention, you’ll find valuable information to help you move forward.

If you find any particular guest’s advice particularly helpful, we recommend checking out their full episodes for even more in-depth guidance. Each guest’s individual episode offers additional tips and detailed strategies that can further support your growth efforts.

Season 4 guests of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast

11 Jun 2024S4E7 - How MyAskAI bootstrapped with a team of 2 to $300k ARR With Michael Heap00:34:31

In this episode of the "Grow Your B2B SaaS" podcast, host Joran interviews Mike Heap, the founder of My Ask AI, an AI customer support solution. Mike shares his entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he faced, and the strategies he employed to grow his company to 40,000 users and $300K ARR within one and a half years.

Mike urged founders to stay focused on their vision and to avoid getting distracted by every new technological trend. He underscores the importance of doing the "boring things" consistently to achieve long-term success..

This episode offers a comprehensive look into the journey of building a successful B2B SaaS company, highlighting the importance of adaptability, customer focus, and strategic marketing. Key Timecodes

(00:52): Introduction to Mike Heep and My ask AI

(01:17): Mike's entrepreneurial journey and early career

(02:53): From corporate to startup: Mike's transition

(03:28): Goals and motivations for My ask AI

(04:08): Overcoming challenges and rock bottom moments

(09:27): Go-to-market strategy and distribution channels

(16:14): Critical decisions and building with Bubble

(21:08): Managing the company and prioritizing tasks

(29:01): Advice for SaaS founders at different stages

20 May 2024S4E4 - The story behind Ocean.io: AI first & 10M in funding With Michael Heiberg00:33:02

In today's episode of the "Grow Your B2B SaaS" podcast, we dive into the journey of Michael Heiberg, CEO and founder of Ocean.io, a cutting-edge account-based data platform powered by AI. Join us as we uncover Michael's path from sales at SAP to launching his own venture, exploring the challenges and triumphs he faced along the way. Discover how Ocean.io is reshaping the sales and marketing landscape through precision targeting and innovative AI solutions.  Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) Show Intro
  • (01:45) Ocean’s Funding Rounds and Employee Count
  • (02:40) Michael’s Entrepreneurial Journey
  • (05:01) Market Redefinition and End Goal
  • (08:20) Overcoming Rock Bottom Moment
  • (09:55) Incremental Success Factors
  • (14:00) Go-to-Market Strategy
  • (16:20) Targeting Specific Industries
  • (18:17) Marketing Approach and Challenges
  • (26:40) Advice for Founders Starting Out
23 Apr 2024S3E21 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10K MRR? Advice from 20 experts00:28:13

In season 3 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests the same question: "What kind of advice would they give a B2B SaaS founder growing to 10K MRR?". By combining all the advice into one single episode you will be able to hear their answers in less than 40min!

So, are you looking to grow your SaaS and unsure how to surpass the 10k Monthly Recurring Revenue (MRR) mark? This podcast episode will be packed with advice from industry experts. All the guests will give practical advice on how to grow your SaaS and make it successful in the long term.

If you like the answer of any of the guests, we would recommend jumping into the whole show as there will be a lot more advice!

26 Mar 2024S3E17 - How to setup affiliate marketing for B2B SaaS with Dustin Howes00:39:32

Do you already have an affiliate marketing program set up for your B2B SaaS? If not, Are you considering setting up an affiliate marketing program for your B2B SaaS but unsure where to start? Fear not!

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, hosted by Joran Hofman, we delve deep into the world of affiliate marketing. Our guest expert, Dustin Howes, brings over 13 years of experience in affiliate marketing, having worked with renowned companies in the industry. With his extensive expertise, including hosting the Affiliate Nerd Out podcast and creating his own affiliate marketing masterclass, Dustin is the go-to resource for discussing effective affiliate marketing strategies. Key Timecodes

(00:36)Show and guest intro

(1:17)Why listen to Dustin

(2:14) What is Affiliate Marketing

(3:12) Minimum Requirements for Starting an Affiliate Program

(4:52) Misconceptions About Affiliate Marketing

(6:57) Benefits of Setting Up an Affiliate Program for B2B SaaS Companies

(9:32) Common Mistakes in Setting Up and Managing an Affiliate Program

(11:55) How the perfect Onboarding of Affiliates should look like

(14:09) Why it's important to write content for your affiliates

(18:02) Dustin’s Ideal process for setting up an affiliate program

(20:47) The Importance of Patience in Growing an Affiliate Program

25:09 Can your Existing Clients be your Affiliates?

(25:43)  Best Practices for Onboarding Affiliates

(27:49) Influencers vs. Established Publishers: Which Content Strategy Reigns Supreme?

(29:24) Challenges in Affiliate Marketing Outreach

(31:57) Advice for Growing a SaaS to 10K MRR

(33:13) Advice for Growing a SaaS to 10M ARR

(35:13) Advice for SaaS Founders

(37:02) The One thing Dustin wishes he knew 10 years ago

(37:06) The Importance of AI in Marketing

18 Apr 2023S1E11 - Customer-led growth: How to get started with Katya Ryabova00:35:31

As a SaaS founder, it is crucial to understand how to get customer insight and leverage them for the growth of your Saas business. In today's episode, our guest is Katya Ryabova. Katya enlightens us on Customer-led Growth strategy, how to get started and its place in a SaaS company. As a researcher and consultant, Katya advises over a dozen SaaS and tech companies.  

Why you need to listen to Katya - As a certified Customer-Led Growth consultant, She has gained immense experience working with many SaaS and tech companies. Over the past 13 years, she has built on her social research background to help SaaS founders to run their customer research and turn it into actionable insight that informs the decision-making on their product and marketing.

What is Customer-Led Growth strategy (CLG)- Katya defines Customer-Led Growth strategy as an array of repeatable strategies that a business owner can implement at every strategy to realize growth. It entails gathering customer information, interpreting it, and mapping it according to the ideal customer profile. It is an effective strategy for understanding the gaps and opportunities in the market to enable customers to find you and convert quicker. Katya clarifies that CLG is not a substitute or competitor to sales-led growth or Product-Led Growth strategies. She sees it as a foundation by which a SaaS founder can implement along with other growth strategies. 

Timecodes

  • (0:30) Introduction of today's topic and guest expert
  • (1:28) Why do you need to listen to Katya
  • (02:01) What is a Customer-Led Growth strategy (CLG)
  • (05:08) Minimum requirements for implementing CLG strategy
  • (06:54) Importance of understanding your ideal customer profile (ICP) 
  • (08:58) Metrics for measuring the success of CLG strategy
  • (10:35) Common mistakes in implementing CLG strategy
  • (14:54) Strategies for implementing CLG 
  • (21:32) Challenges when implementing CLG strategy
  • (25:57) Seeking a mentor or consultant for CLG strategy
  • (28:24) Affiliate marketing and Customer-Led Growth strategy 
  • (29:42) Advice to SaaS companies depending on their revenue
  • (33:48) Katya's contact information
18 Jun 2024S4E8 - Learnings from a Second-Time SaaS Founder With Joe Lewin00:31:43

In the latest episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, host Joran engages in a candid conversation with Joe Lewin, founder of Foundy, an acquisition fundraising portal. Joe shares his entrepreneurial journey, offering valuable insights and experiences. His background includes the successful founding and subsequent sale of Swings, a tech company, providing him with a wealth of knowledge on building a successful business from the ground up.

Joe emphasizes the importance of validating business ideas early on. He advises aspiring entrepreneurs to ensure their market model and customer base are supported by real potential customers, not just friends and family. This validation can save time and resources by steering efforts toward viable opportunities.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:44) Introduction to Joe Lewin and Foundy
  • (1:21) Joe's Background and the Inception of Foundy
  • (1:27) Motivation Behind Starting Foundy
  • (1:59) Foundy's Start Date and Current ARR
  • (2:08) Business Model Pivot and Revenue Breakdown
  • (3:07) Current Team Size and Use of AI Assistants
  • (4:15) End Goal for Foundy
  • (4:48) What Keeps Joe Motivated?
  • (6:04) Early Stages of Foundy and Getting the Idea Validated
  • (6:54) Initial Uncertainties and Risks Faced
  • (7:29) Experiencing Rock Bottom and Overcoming Challenges
  • (8:43) Fundraising Challenges and Pivots
  • (11:08) Advice for First-Time Founders
  • (12:27) Key Growth Strategies for Foundy
  • (12:27) Importance of Referrals and Organic Content
  • (17:16) Processes and Frameworks Used in Foundy
  • (17:29) Deep Dive into Automation and Efficiency Tools
  • (19:02) Biggest Failures and Lessons Learned
  • (19:15) Importance of Pivoting and Refining the Business Model
  • (20:40) Foundy’s SaaS Model and Subscription Approach
  • (23:00) Optimizing for Profitability While Raising Funds
  • (23:12) Importance of Healthy, Sustainable Growth
  • (25:46) Advice for Growing from 0 to 10K MRR
  • (26:55) Importance of Domain Expertise and Problem Validation
  • (28:18) Advice for Scaling to 10 Million ARR
30 Nov 2023S2E22 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10M ARR? Advice from 20 experts.00:29:19

​​In season 2 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests the same question: "What kind of advice would they give a B2B SaaS founder growing to 10M ARR?" So have you surpassed the 10K MRR, and looking to scale to 10M ARR? This podcast episode is for you! This podcast episode will be packed with valuable advice. 

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Since we asked all the guests the same question, but they covered different aspects, you will be able to get many other answers. Want an even quicker way to digest the information?


Season 2 guests list and Topics covered

  1. ⁠How to run profitable ads⁠ - Michael Damnjanovic
  2. ⁠Why should someone buy your SaaS now⁠ - Michael Humblet
  3. ⁠How to build a strong culture⁠ - Mads Wedderkopp
  4. ⁠How to sell your SaaS⁠ - Thomas Smale
  5. ⁠How to leverage SEO⁠ - Maeva Cifuentes
  6. ⁠How to do revenue attribution⁠ - Steffen Hedebrandt
  7. ⁠How to build a B2B SaaS community⁠ - Mike Rizzo
  8. ⁠How to improve your User Onboarding⁠ -Ildefonso Prieto
  9. ⁠How to do product marketing for your SaaS⁠ - Alex Levin
  10. ⁠How to build and grow a SaaS sales team⁠ - James Ski
  11. ⁠How to reduce your CPL and scale profitable ads⁠ - Yann A. Skaalen
  12. ⁠How to bootstrap your B2B SaaS to 10m+ exit⁠ - Andrew Gazdecki
  13. ⁠How to secure an early-stage investment ⁠- Lotte Geldermans
  14. ⁠How to get capital as a bootstrapper⁠ - Nathan Latka
  15. ⁠How to plan, predict & and prove your GTM⁠ - Mark Stouse
  16. ⁠How to achieve Product Market Fit⁠ - Andy Karuza
  17. ⁠How to leverage marketing automation⁠ - Shay Howe
  18. ⁠How to become profitable with your SaaS⁠ - Melissa Kwan
  19. ⁠How to go from PMF to GTM success⁠ - Joyce Mackenzie Liu
  20. ⁠Why you should hire globally⁠ - Amir Reiter

09 Apr 2024S3E19 - How to build a billion dollar business within a year With Adam Robinson00:39:58

Is it possible to build a billion-dollar business within a year? Well, the answer is YES! In this special episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, recorded live on stage at the SaaS Open event in Austin, USA, show host Joran Hofman sits down with Adam Robinson, the founder of retention.com. This episode covers the critical factors and hacks to building a billion-dollar business within a year. Adam's RB2B companies focus on identifying website visitors on a personal level, with Retention targeting e-commerce and B2B. Adam is striving to bootstrap his company to unicorn status and has a TV series called The Billion Dollar Challenge. Previously, he bootstrapped Rob Lee email marketing to an eight-figure exit as co-founder and CEO. 

Adam shares his experiences and insights on bootstrapping startups, the meaning of building a billion-dollar company, and the importance of radical transparency in business. He also discusses the challenges of scaling a business, the role of product-market fit, and the value of a founder brand. Adam emphasizes the need for financial discipline, focusing on product-market fit, and leveraging social media to spread awareness.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) Introduction and Background
  • (01:24) The Quest for a Billion-Dollar Business
  • (05:46) Founder Branding and Social Media
  • (08:38) Different Approaches to Scaling
  • (11:05) Balancing Revenue Goals and Free Strategies
  • (12:29) Navigating Revenue Plateaus and Competition
  • (15:22) Lessons from Rock Bottom Moments
  • (20:06) Lessons from Past Mistakes
  • (22:04) Implementing Processes and Accountability
  • (25:30) The Importance of External Moderation
  • (27:24) Advice for Bootstrapping Founders
  • (30:18) Advice for Scaling to $10 Million ARR
  • (32:42) The Power of Founder Branding
  • (35:00) The Journey to Understanding Product-Market Fit
  • (37:24) Reflecting on Past Mistakes and Learnings
30 Jan 2024S3E9 - How to achieve Product Market Fit for your B2B SaaS With Maja Voje00:46:31

How can you achieve Product Market Fit for your B2B SaaS? Why is a Go-To-Market Strategy important for your B2B SaaS? In the first season of this podcast, we interviewed Andrew Davies on the same topic, resulting in one of our most listened-to episodes. To delve deep into the concept of product-market fit and the entire spectrum of the go-to-market strategy, show host Joran Hofman speaks with Maja Voje, a best-selling author of 'GTM Strategist' and the Founder & Investor at Growth Lab. Maja, an expert in go-to-market strategies for SaaS companies, is actively involved in running GTM Bootcamps, hosting podcasts, and mentoring within the Swiss entrepreneurship program. Key Timecodes

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro
  • (1:19) Why you should listen to Maja Voje
  • (2:07) What is the go-to market strategy?
  • (4:42) What is product market fit?
  •  (6:15) The most common mistakes companies make while trying to go to market
  • (13:34) The Path to Product-Market Fit: Maja’s Strategic Process
  • (21:00) What successful companies are doing right with GTM
  • (25:06) How to sell your product when its not even ready yet
  • (30:08) The most common challenges when trying to achieve product market fit?
  • (33:35) The future of building a go to market strategy
  • (38:45) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (39:59) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (41:31) Maja’s crucial advice to B2B SaaS founders 
  • (43:06) What Maja Wishes she knew 10 years ago
05 Nov 2024S5E7 - From Idea to Income: How to Build, Launch & Scale a Successful Micro-SaaS With Alex Urquhart00:43:59

In today’s fast-paced digital world, micro SaaS platforms are making waves and for good reason. As our guest describes it, micro SaaS is a streamlined version of Software as a Service that addresses specific problems with targeted solutions. Unlike traditional SaaS, which aims to cover a broad range of needs, micro SaaS focuses on niche markets, often created by solo entrepreneurs or small teams. This trend signals a shift toward more specialized, affordable, and user-friendly software that truly makes an impact.

In this enticing yet intriguing episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran Hofman sits down with Alex Urquhart, the founder of Market Science, to discuss micro SaaS more specifically, how to build, launch, and scale a successful micro SaaS.

Key Timestamps

  • (0:49) - Importance of Understanding the Market
  • (1:15) - Introduction of Guest: Alex Urquhart
  • (1:44) - What is Micro SaaS?
  • (1:56) - Defining Micro SaaS
  • (2:36) - Examples of Micro SaaS
  • (3:18) - Why Build a Micro SaaS?
  • (3:23) - Benefits of Micro SaaS
  • (4:14) - Positioning and Product Messaging
  • (5:08) - Low Objections and Pricing
  • (6:06) - Low Running Costs and Expectations
  • (7:04) - Simplicity in Micro SaaS
  • (7:09) - Skills Needed for Micro SaaS Success
  • (7:39) - Grit and Tenacity in Micro SaaS
  • (8:37) - Pivoting Quickly in Micro SaaS
  • (9:32) - Product-Led Growth in Micro SaaS
  • (10:26) - Validating Ideas in Micro SaaS
  • (10:58) - Identifying a Niche for Micro SaaS
  • (11:47) - Utilizing Personal Experience
  • (12:37) - Finding Gaps in Established Products
  • (13:39) - Simplifying Existing Solutions
  • (14:30) - Importance of Repetitive Tasks
  • (14:34) - Passion in Solving Personal Problems
  • (15:11) - Research and Understanding the Market
  • (15:17) - Building an MVP for Micro SaaS
  • (16:23) - Testing MVP Viability
  • (17:20) - Validating Before Building
  • (18:05) - Generating Leads for Micro SaaS
  • (18:49) - Outbound Strategies for Early Users
  • (19:39) - Building Connections and Research
  • (20:25) - Launching with Early Customers
  • (21:16) - Community Engagement
  • (22:10) - Sharing Knowledge and Building Value
  • (23:00) - Building a Personal Brand
  • (23:37) - Scaling Micro SaaS
  • (24:19) - Challenges in Scaling
  • (25:11) - Fast Followers and Competition
  • (26:15) - Growth Loops and SEO
  • (27:09) - Marketing and Ads in Scaling
  • (28:02) - Supplementary Income Strategies
  • (28:44) - Transitioning to Sustainable Income
  • (29:34) - Proof of Concept and Testing
  • (30:33) - Validating Demand Before Launch
  • (30:53) - Common Mistakes in Micro SaaS
  • (31:05) - Being Open to Pivoting
  • (32:03) - Avoiding Rush to Automate
  • (32:52) - Manual Processes and Validation
  • (33:19) - Starting a B2B SaaS Company
  • (34:12) - Being Manual in Go-to-Market
  • (35:11) - Building a Personal Brand
  • (36:12) - Community Involvement and Networking
  • (37:07) - Scaling Towards 10 Million ARR
  • (38:10) - Detaching and Hiring Right People
  • (39:02) - Importance of Founder Presence
  • (39:56) - Leading with Culture
  • (40:15) - Summarizing Key Points
  • (41:18) - Importance of Validation and Research
  • (42:24) - Final Thoughts and Resources
  • (42:50) - Contact and Closing Remarks
12 Mar 2024S3E15 - How to scale your SaaS to 1M MRR using processes with Matt Wolach00:40:16

Are you wondering how to scale your SaaS to 1M MRR? Well, the secret lies in setting up and having the right processes in place. In this episode of the 'Grow your B2B SaaS' podcast, Joran Hofman sits down with Matt Wolach to discuss how to scale your SaaS to 1M MRR using processes. Matt is a multi-faceted professional with experience as a founder, investor, mentor, and podcast host. His diverse background includes roles such as VP of Sales, CEO, CRO, and Director of Sales and Marketing, offering a wealth of insights on growing B2B SaaS companies. 

Matt shares his journey of overcoming sales challenges in his early days, highlighting the importance of persistence and learning from failures. Through his own ventures and client successes, Matt emphasizes the significance of developing effective sales processes to achieve growth.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:00)Show and guest intro
  • (1:18) Why you should listen to Matt Wolach
  • (2:37) Minimum requirements needed for scaling to 1M MRR
  • (03:25) Importance of a Structured Sales Process
  • (04:41 Common Mistake: Focusing on Lead Generation without a Sales Process
  • (06:42) Creating Pain in the Discovery Phase
  • (10:32)Twisting the Knife in the Discovery Process
  • (15:29) Applying Discovery and Demo in the Sales Process
  • (17:59)The challenges encountered while trying to scale
  • (21:31) Using Loss Aversion in Marketing Materials
  • (23:29)Building Processes for Scaling
  • (26:46) What metric should SaaS companies be tracking?
  • (31:05) Where should more focus be? LTV CAC or Payback period?
  • (32:36)Advice for Growing to 10K MRR
  • (33:59) Advice for Growing to 10 Million ARR
23 May 2023S1E16 - How to do sales prospecting for your B2B SaaS With Rob Harlow00:35:59

What is sales prospecting? And are you doing it right in your SaaS? In today's ever-competitive SaaS industry you must perform sales prospecting correctly to realize maximum growth. In this episode, we host a self-declared "Natural Geek" Founder, Investor, and Late Night Innovator Rob Harlow.

Why you need to listen to Rob: He is a specialist in social Prospecting and has seen his company's Outbase grow tremendously year on year. Rob has access to a massive database of over 20 million prospects across 70 countries worldwide. As an industry leader in prospecting in the UK, their annual report, The State of Prospecting, is now a highly sought-after benchmark for Prospecting and optimization.

What is Prospecting: Rob defines Prospecting as finding the right person in the right organization to determine that your product or service offering perfectly fits. He argues that Prospecting is an everyday function that every salesperson in an organization has undertaken or has become versed with. Prospecting has grown more sophisticated in the digital space with the advancement in technology. As such, companies can leverage more significant amounts of data and utilize various automated processes. Rob identifies three aspects as the main areas of Prospecting: researching, identifying, and engaging.

Importance of Prospecting to SaaS Companies: In addition to product-led and sales-led growth, B2B SaaS companies require sales prospecting to match their ideal customer profile precisely. As an outbound strategy, Prospecting enables a B2B SaaS to scale its sales and marketing efforts. Our guest advises that a company should place prospecting at the center of the sales process, given today's digital capabilities.

Minimum requirements for prospecting at a company: Our guest expert says that a company needs to have a functional CRM in place before starting the prospecting function. The CRMs serve to manage incoming leads and customer conversations properly. In addition, having a well-documented sales process is crucial because it makes the prospecting campaign a success.

Common mistakes companies make in Prospecting: Rob points out that most companies need a sound technical setup to enable a successful prospecting effort. Given that emailing is also an integral part of Prospecting, the functionality of the messaging tools is crucial. An extensive target group also results in messaging that does not appeal to everyone, thus failing Prospecting. It is important to send emails to reach the right target accounts.


Key Time Codes

  • (0:08) Introduction of topic and guest
  • (1:11) Why you need to listen to Rob:
  • (2:15) What is Prospecting
  • (5:19) Importance of Prospecting to SaaS Companies
  • (7:00) Minimum requirements for prospecting at a company
  • (9:23) Common mistakes companies make in Prospecting
  • (14:30) Main takeaways from The State of Prospecting 2023 Report
  • (18:50) Effectiveness of the email as a market channel
  • (21:16) Strategies for effective Prospecting
  • (25:40) Future Trends in Prospecting
  • (32:35) Advice to SaaS company with 10K MRR
  •  (34:03) Advice to SaaS company with 1M ARR
  • (36:05) Rob's contact information
01 Aug 2023S2E4 - How to sell your B2B SaaS? with Thomas Smale00:31:39

Welcome to the Growing a B2B SaaS podcast, where we provide actionable advice on all aspects of growing a business-to-business software company. Whether it's customer success, sales, funding, bootstrapping, exits, or scaling, we've got you covered. In this episode, we'll dive into the topic of making your SaaS startup sellable and discuss the steps to selling your business successfully. Our special guest today is Thomas Smale, the founder and CEO of FE International, Inc, a tech-focused M&A advisory firm with an impressive track record of over 1 billion in closed transactions and more than 1200 deals completed worldwide.

Getting Ready for an Acquisition

Understanding the Path to Acquisition Thomas begins by emphasizing that the decision to sell a SaaS business should be considered early on in its journey. Once a business starts gaining traction, usually at around $1,000 monthly recurring revenue (MRR), founders should start thinking about their long-term goals. It's essential to be honest with oneself about what you want to achieve, whether it's building a billion-dollar valuation or a smaller, million-dollar valuation. Each path requires different strategies and efforts, and defining your goals early will help you align your business accordingly.

Valuation Methods 

Thomas explains that valuing a SaaS business is a complex process. While the most common approach is using precedent transactions (comparing the business to similar ones that have been sold), there are various valuation methodologies. These include discounted cash flow analysis (DCF) and multiples of revenue or profit. However, no single formula fits all businesses, and it's crucial to consider the specifics of each case to arrive at a fair valuation.

Common Mistakes to Avoid 

One of the most common mistakes SaaS founders make when preparing to sell is artificially inflating short-term profitability to improve valuation. This involves cutting costs or laying off staff to increase profit margins temporarily. Such tactics can backfire in the long run and are easily spotted by savvy buyers. Instead, focus on building a strong and sustainable business model with genuine profitability.

Challenges in the Selling Process

 One of the main challenges for founders is managing their expectations during the selling process. Unrealistic valuation goals can hinder the selling process, leading to wasted time and missed opportunities. Thomas advises being open to negotiations and realistic about the market value of your business. Additionally, founders sometimes try to handle the selling process themselves to save money, but this can result in suboptimal outcomes. Engaging an experienced M&A firm can lead to better deals and higher returns, making it a valuable investment.


Key Timecodes

  • (1:16) Why you should listen to Thomas
  • (1:55 What is M&A?
  • (2:52) When should a SaaS founders consider acquiring themselves?
  • (6:50) Different ways to value businesses.
  • (8:27) The most common mistakes companies make before they try to sell their business or even while selling their business?
  • (10:53) What are the most common challenges startups face while selling their business?
  • (12:04) Set realistic expectations.
  • (13:10) The acquisition process
  • (17:41) When to sell your SaaS
  • (18:47) When to ask for help?
  • (21:22)– 10k MRR advice
  • (22:59)– Multi-Channel Marketing approach
  • (26:36) 10million ARR Advice
  • (27:33) What Thomas Wishes he knew 10years ago
  • (30:00)– Get in touch with Thomas.
13 Aug 2024S4E16- Buying & Selling a SaaS: Everything you need to know with Blake Hutchison00:40:46

Are you thinking about exiting your SaaS business? Unsure about where to start, who to talk to or what it’s worth is? This episode will guide you through buying and selling SaaS businesses with expert advice!


In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran chats with Blake Hutchinson, CEO of Flippa. They dive into how to prepare for a business exit, the details of buying and selling SaaS businesses, and Blake’s own journey as an entrepreneur. This discussion is packed with valuable tips for anyone involved in the SaaS world.This episode looks at SaaS business transactions and gives helpful advice for new and experienced entrepreneurs.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:46) - Introduction to Blake Hutchinson
  • (1:26) - What is Flippa?
  • (2:27) - Flippa's Revenue and Business Model
  • (3:24) - Employee Distribution and Offices
  • (3:53) - Blake's Entrepreneurial Journey
  • (4:08) - Transition from Entrepreneurship to Corporate
  • (7:41) - Dealing with Entrepreneurial Failure
  • (17:45) - Importance of Preparing for an Exit
  • (10:52) - Common Misconceptions in SaaS Exits
  • (14:50) - Valuation and Multiples for SaaS Companies
  • (22:37) - Maximizing Exit Outcomes
  • (25:01) - The Selling Process on Flippa
  • (30:52) - Why Buy an Existing SaaS?
  • (28:54) - Challenges in Buying and Selling SaaS
  • (35:27) - Advice for Growing a SaaS to 10K MRR
  • (36:57) - Advice for Scaling to 10 Million ARR
  • (39:37) - Summary and Key Takeaways
  • (39:49) - How to Contact Blake Hutchinson
25 Apr 2024S3E22 - How to grow your B2B SaaS to 10M ARR? Advice from 20 experts00:34:05

In season 3 of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, we asked all our guests the same question: "What kind of advice would they give a B2B SaaS founder growing to 10M ARR?". By combining all the advice into one single episode you will be able to hear their answers in less than 40min!

So, are you looking to grow your SaaS and unsure how to surpass the 10M Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) mark? This podcast episode will be packed with advice from industry experts. All the guests will give practical advice on how to grow your SaaS and make it successful in the long term.

If you like the answer of any of the guests, we would recommend jumping into the whole show as there will be a lot more advice!

Season 3 guests of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast

  1. How to achieve Product Led Growth for your SaaS With Wes Bush
  2. How to audit your SaaS growth? With Asia Orangio
  3. Lessons learned; Bootstrapping a B2B SaaS to 20M ARR in revenue With Emeric Ernoult
  4. How to improve your SaaS Sales With Kevin Dorsey
  5. How to implement the Growth Hacking mindset in your B2B SaaS? With Sean Ellis
  6. How to prepare your SaaS for an exit? With Dirk Sahlmer
  7. How to price your B2B SaaS to accelerate growth? with Wolter Rebergen
  8. How to get your first 1.000 users for your B2B SaaS With Simon Høiberg
  9. How to achieve Product Market Fit for your B2B SaaS With Maja Voje
  10. How to implement a profit-led approach for your SaaS with Guillaume Moubeche
  11. How to Achieve Explosive Growth and Increase Profitability with Stefan Avivson
  12. How to unify Sales, Marketing & SDR’s in your GTM strategy With Chris Walker
  13. How to turn Discovery Calls into Customers with Chris Orlob
  14. How do investors analyse SaaS businesses? With Cameron Hay
  15.  How to scale your SaaS to 1M MRR using processes with Matt Wolach
  16. The Unsexy Truth about Startup Success with Cristobal Alonso
  17. How to setup affiliate marketing for B2B SaaS with Dustin Howes
  18. How Chili Piper is Becoming A Billion Dollar Company With Alina Vandenberghe
  19. How to build a billion dollar business within a year With Adam Robinson
  20. How to sell Enterprise SaaS, Learn from a 100M+ ARR founder With Jim Yu
14 Nov 2023S2E19 - Strategic Finance: getting from Product-Market Fit to Go-To-Market Success Joyce Mackenzie Liu00:36:37

Embarking on the journey from product-market fit to go-to-market success is a pivotal moment for any SaaS startup. It requires a strategic approach and a keen understanding of market dynamics. The CFO plays a crucial role in guiding the company through this critical transition. In this episode on the Grow Your B2B Podcast, we explore the important aspects and best practices that can help startups navigate this journey successfully. Our subject matter expert is Joyce Mackenzie Liu the Founder and CEO of Pegafund a company that provides fractional CFO services and leadership upskilling to high growth, investor-backed SaaS businesses.

Joyce shares her insights on strategic financing for SaaS companies, particularly in achieving product-market fit and go-to-market success. She emphasizes the importance of understanding product metrics, customer feedback, and financial stability to determine product-market fit. Joyce also highlights the significance of having accurate financial reporting and leveraging SaaS metrics to make informed strategic decisions for growth. Furthermore, she discusses the evolving role of the CFO, emphasizing the need for business intelligence and commercial expertise in a rapidly changing market.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro
  • (1:24) Why you should listen to Joyce Mackenzie Liu
  • (2:33) What is product market fit
  • (5:29) How to recognize that a company Has achieved product market fit? 
  • (7:57) What does go-to-market success actually mean?
  • (9:0) Common financial mistakes companies make while trying to achieve go-to-market success?
  • (11:27) How to get your books in order
  • (12:06) The financial challenges when transitioning from product market fit to a successful go to market strategy
  • (16:12) Which financial metrics take on increased importance after reaching product-market fit?
  • (19:37) The best practices which impact the success of go to market.
  • (24:21) How to measure the ROI (Return on investment) of the different go to market strategies.
  • (26:28) What is the future of a CFO? 
  • (30:31) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (31:04) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (33:38) What Joyce wishes she knew 10yrs ago
07 Mar 2023S1E5 - Product Led Growth: How To Get Started With Antti Suikkanen 00:34:08

How can you leverage Product-Led Growth to grow your B2B SaaS?

In this episode, we talk with Antti Suikkanen, about how to get started with product-led growth to scale your SaaS.

What is Product-led Growth? - Antti Suikkanen sees product-led growth as how the world works today: people today want to figure out the value they can attain from a product before deciding to buy it. Product-led growth model vs sales-led growth - Product-led growth follows a more precise framework: the product has to be excellent, and easy to use, and the user has to find the value faster. With sales-led growth, you have to paint the picture to the user about the features and value of the product. 

When to start on product-led growth - Our guest argues that it is necessary first to determine if your product and service fit product-led growth. If it is too complex, your account values are very high or the number of potential clients is not big, then you need to weigh if product-led growth is the right strategy for you.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:55) Introduction to today's topic and guest expert
  • (1:55) Why you need to listen to Antti Suikkanen
  • (2:36) His definition of Product-led Growth
  • (3:48) Product-led growth model vs. sales-led growth -
  • (4:44) When would a company start on product-led growth
  • (7:10) Minimum requirements to start on product-led growth
  • (7:57) Metrics for measuring the success of product-led growth
  • (11:05) Subdivision of roles in product-led growth strategy
  • (17:25) Challenges companies to face with product-led growth strategy
  • (12:20) Common mistakes companies often make in implementing the product-led growth strategy
  • (15:03) Recommendations for where to start
  • (19:56) How is his company implementing a product-led growth strategy
  • (22:30) Advice to SaaS startups with 10k revenue
  • (27:05) Advice to SaaS established businesses with $ 1 million annual revenue
  • (29:45) Final thoughts for SaaS businesses
  • (32:02) Antti Suikkanen’s contact information

The show is hosted by ⁠Joran Hofman⁠, founder of ⁠Reditus⁠

26 Dec 2023S3E4 - How to improve your SaaS Sales With Kevin Dorsey00:35:23

Wondering How to improve your SaaS Sales ? Well, In this episode, Joran interviews Kevin Dorsey, the Senior President of Sales and Partnerships at Bench, discussing the strategies and processes for successful SaaS sales. Kevin's experience and expertise in sales leadership make him a valuable guest for this episode. Kevin Dorsey, known as KD and the Father of Modern Sales Leadership, has an impressive background in sales, having worked with over 400 sales organizations and achieved success in different industry verticals. His expertise and experience make him a valuable resource for discussing SaaS sales strategies.

Kevin defines SaaS excellence as a higher standard of execution and expectations in sales, product development, customer success, and marketing. He emphasizes the importance of consistently holding oneself to a bar of excellence and delivering value.

According to Kevin, achieving SaaS excellence involves repeatability at a high standard, focusing on problem-solving, understanding customer needs, and striving for continuous improvement. He emphasizes the habit of operating with the intention to achieve excellence.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:40) Show and guest intro
  • (1:50) Why you should listen to Kevin
  • (2:39) What is SaaS excellence?
  • (4:55) Why is WHY a very loaded question?
  • (7:35)The most common mistakes companies make while doing sales
  • (10:37) The ideal processes or strategies recommended to set up a sales process
  • (14:20)  The four D's That define a sales process
  • (16:44) The best practices for a successful sales proccess
  • (21:00) Challenges faced while implementing sales process
  • (23:43)  KD’s mentorship advice
  • (28:20) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (29:56) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (33:51) Kevin’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (35:46) What Kevin wishes he knew 10 years ago
10 Oct 2023S2E14 - How to get capital as a bootstrapper? With Nathan Latka00:31:23

Bootstrapping, the art of building a business without external funding, requires resourcefulness and strategic financial management. As a bootstrapper navigating the entrepreneurial landscape, securing capital can be a challenging yet essential aspect of scaling your venture. While traditional funding avenues like venture capital may seem elusive, there are alternative strategies to fuel your startup's growth. In this insightful episode on the Grow Your B2B SaaS - Podcast , show host Joran Hofman hosts a subject matter expert on how to get capital as a bootstrapper. Our guest is Nathan Latka. Nathan is the founder of FounderPath, a platform that helps SaaS companies grow without giving up equity. In addition to that, he has deployed capital to over 200 bootstrap founders out of a $150 million fund. He is the author of the Wall Street Journal bestselling book, "How to Be a Capitalist Without Any Capital.” Lastly, he is a host of "The Top Entrepreneurs" podcast, which has over 20 million downloads. Key Timecodes

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro
  • (1:28 ) Why you should listen to Nathan Latka
  • (1:55) What are the different financing options, a SaaS company would have? 
  • (2:58) Dilutive funding vs. non-dilutive funding What's the difference?
  • (3:57)  Why Nathan Latka helps SaaS founders to get non-dilutive funding
  • (6:02)  Strategies to self-fund your bootstrap
  • (7:09) Common mistakes companies make while trying to fund their business
  • (8:59) What has to be in place in order to get non-dilutive funding?
  • (11:11) The process of acquiring capital
  • (13:09)  What do successful bootstrappers have in common? 
  • (16:05) What are successful bootstrappers doing so well?
  • (17:48) Challenges bootstrap founders face and how they overcome them.
  • (22:20) What to include when sending out your email newsletter
  • (19:30)  How to sell your SaaS for a 10 x multiplier
  • (23:31) The future of SaaS financing
30 Jul 2024S4E14 - How MorningScore Transforms SEO with Gamification With Karsten Madsen00:36:06

How did MorningScore transform SEO with gamification?

In this episode of the "Grow Your B2B SaaS" podcast, host Joran interviews Karsten Madsen, the founder and CEO of Morningscore. This episode delves into Karsten's entrepreneurial journey, the challenges he faced, and the strategies he used to grow his SaaS company. Morningscore is a gamified SEO tool designed to help small companies improve their visibility on Google.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:45) - Introduction of Karsten Madsen
  • (1:25) - Company funding and structure
  • (2:36) - Overview of Morningscore
  • (2:57) - Early entrepreneurship journey
  • (8:16) - Challenges and rock bottom moments
  • (9:57) - Learning from mistakes
  • (12:27) - Biggest company challenges
  • (15:08) - Successful strategies and growth tactics
  • (17:57) - Role of partnerships in growth
  • (20:24) - Company culture and remote work
  • (23:39) - Personal enjoyment and team dynamics
  • (24:04) - Regrets and enjoying the journey
  • (25:16) - Leveraging new technologies
  • (26:40) - Future plans and market strategy
  • (30:39) - Advice for SaaS founders
06 Aug 2024S4E15 - Scaling Success: How Luzmo's B2B SaaS Surpassed $5M+ ARR With Thomas De Clerck00:33:45

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran hosts Thomas De Clerck, founder of Luzmo (formerly Cumul), a company specializing in AI-powered analytics solutions for businesses. Thomas, who brings extensive experience from previous roles at Google and other tech companies, shares his journey from Luzmo’s inception in 2015 to its current status with over €5 million in annual recurring revenue (ARR). 

Thomas’ story provides a masterclass in navigating the complexities of scaling a SaaS startup and offers invaluable insights for aspiring entrepreneurs. Tune in to explore the key takeaways from his experience that can guide you on the path to success.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:43) - Guest Introduction
  • (01:13) - Company Overview
  • (01:48) - Funding and Growth
  • (02:27) - Product and Services
  • (02:30) - Company Description
  • (03:00) - Personal Journey
  • (03:39) - Motivation and Goals
  • (04:48) - Challenges and Learning
  • (06:15) - Founding Story and Pivot
  • (08:16) - Market Feedback and Success
  • (09:38) - Early Customers and Growth Tactics
  • (11:01) - Equity and Incubator Programs
  • (11:16) - Rock Bottom Moments
  • (12:07) - U.S. Market Entry
  • (13:10) - Company Challenges
  • (14:13) - Go-to-Market Strategy
  • (15:21) - Successful Strategies
  • (16:25) - Additional Go-to-Market Techniques
  • (18:03) - Critical Decisions
  • (19:24) - New Initiatives and AI
  • (20:29) - Rebranding
  • (21:51) - Outbound and Sales Scaling
  • (22:58) - AI and Machine Learning
  • (25:09) - Reflections and Learnings
  • (26:54) - Practical Advice for Founders
  • (28:05) - Advice for Early-Stage Founders
  • (30:24) - Advice for Scaling Founders
  • (32:22) - Summary
  • (33:11) - Closing Remarks
01 Oct 2024S5E2 - Building a Sustainable SaaS Business: Key Strategies for Long-Term Growth With Ferdinand Goetzen 00:36:37

In the B2B SaaS world, achieving sustainable growth is no small feat. It involves more than just capturing quick wins; it requires a well-thought-out strategy that ensures long-term success. In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, host Joran Hofman sat down live with Ferdinand Goetzen, a founding partner at the Growth Syndicate, at the B2B Rocks SaaS event in Paris, where Ferdinand shared his key tips for building a strong SaaS business and offered valuable insights into this complex process.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:56) - Building a Sustainable SaaS Business
  • (1:26) - Defining Sustainable Growth
  • (2:51) - The Changing Landscape of Growth
  • (4:55) - The Power of Brand Influence
  • (6:13) - High Intent Lead Generation Strategies
  • (9:37) - Four Key Growth Strategies for B2B
  • (11:34) - Harnessing Thought Leadership and Outbound
  • (16:53) - Best Practices for Sustainable Success
  • (19:04) - Real-World Examples of Effective Branding
  • (23:39) - The Role of User Experience in Growth
  • (24:01) - Strategies for Achieving Sustainable Growth
  • (30:43) - Tips for SaaS Founders’ Success
28 Feb 2023S1E4 - Sales Process: The importance & Best Practices With Gavin Tye00:34:46

Want to sell your B2B SaaS?

Learn from Gavin Tye on how to create demand for your SaaS without selling.

A marketer does not always have a full understanding of the problem existing in their business. Any B2B SaaS business founder should first understand the specific business processes they impact directly or indirectly and figure out how to quantify them. As such, you need to demonstrate to the target audience how much it costs them and highlight the existing inefficiencies of their business processes so they can move forward. A SaaS company has to know the business processes they are solving. Who in the business is most impacted by the processes that have the authority to buy from you? Have consistent effort to test your messaging and market.

Key Time Stamps

  • (0:54) Introduction of the topic and today's guest expert
  • (1:42) Why you need to listen to Gavin
  • (3:18) Debunking his 'Sales Market Fit' philosophy.
  • (5:30) What SaaS companies need to do to create demand before they start to sell
  • (8:30) How to quantify your direct and indirect impact on business processes
  • (9:56) When should companies hire their first salesperson?
  • (12:48) It is highly crucial to know your numbers.
  • (15:24) Common mistakes most companies make in trying to sell B2B sales.
  • (17: 42) You need to create a problem for your clients.
  • (20:09) Challenges he faced in selling B2B SaaS solutions.
  • (21:40) Future changes in sales.
  • (25:40) Advice to B2B Saas starting to grow their revenue to US$10k.
  • (27:35) Advice to B2B Saas realizing US$1million.
  • (29:28) What is the stage at which a company needs a B2B SaaS advisor - The right time is when the company is ready to approach the market.
  • (30:52) What is the typical account value of your client
  • (31:50) His final thoughts
  • (32:49) Gavin's contact information

The show is hosted by ⁠Joran Hofman⁠, founder of ⁠Reditus⁠

14 May 2024S4E3 - How Userflow grew to 4.6M ARR with a team of 3 With Esben Friis-Jensen00:37:51

How did Userflow grow to 4.6M ARR with a team of 3?

In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman interviews Esben Friis-Jensen, the founder of Userflow, a successful SaaS company that grew to 4.6 million ARR and was later acquired by Beamer.

Esben's entrepreneurial path is a testament to the power of persistence, innovation, and strategic decision-making in the competitive landscape of the tech industry. Esben shares his entrepreneurial journey, starting from his days at Accenture to founding Cobalt and eventually Userflow. He talks about his motivation, personal life as a digital nomad, and his experiences in the startup world. Key Timecodes

  • (00:39) Getting to Know Esben
  • (02:15) Esben's Background and Motivation
  • (02:59) Starting Userflow and Idea Generation
  • (05:05) Bootstrapping vs. VC Backed
  • (06:26) Lessons from Cobalt and Userflow
  • (09:16) Scaling Userflow with a Small Team
  • (11:30) Managing Customer Requests and Enterprise Clients
  • (14:18) Leveraging SOC 2 Type 2 and Pricing Strategy
  • (26:06) Leveraging AI in Userflow
07 May 2024S4E2 - How Cybersmart grew to $5M ARR with $20M in funding With Jamie Akhtar00:42:50

Jamie, CEO of Cybersmart, shares invaluable insights and strategies for B2B SaaS founders navigating the journey from startup to scale-up. From effective time management to fostering a supportive company culture, Jamie offers practical advice gleaned from his own experiences. Whether you're striving to reach $10k in monthly recurring revenue or aiming for $10 million in ARR, this episode provides actionable tips to help you succeed in the competitive world of B2B SaaS.


Transitioning from a hands-on founder to a visionary leader requires a shift in focus towards strategic initiatives and personal growth. By stepping back from day-to-day operations and honing in on high-level goals and vision-setting, founders can steer their companies towards sustainable success. Embracing change, fostering a robust company culture, and focusing on personal development are essential components for navigating the complexities of scaling a SaaS business. The evolution from being deeply involved in every aspect of the business to empowering the team and driving organizational success is a crucial phase in the founder's journey.

Key Timecodes

  • Jamie's Background and Entrepreneurial Journey (00:37)
  • Goals and Motivation (01:46) 
  • Company Overview and Metrics (02:28) 
  • Funding and Investor Relationships (03:18) 
  • Product Market Fit and Customer Feedback (05:11)
  • Go-to-Market Strategy and Channel Partnerships (12:27)
  • Company Challenges and People Management (16:37)
  • Personal Development and Time Management (30:26)
  • Advice for SaaS Founders at Different Stages (35:41)
  • Jamie's Advice on Leadership and Planning (39:38)
  • Encouragement for SaaS Founders (40:06)
  • Stay Quivered - Perseverance and Adaptability (40:57)
26 Sep 2023S2E12 - How to bootstrap your SaaS to a 10M+ exit? With Andrew Gazdecki00:37:06

Bootstrapping your SaaS company to a 10M+ exit is a formidable challenge that requires a strategic and disciplined approach. First and foremost, focus on achieving profitability early on, as this not only sustains your business but also makes it an attractive acquisition target. As you grow, prioritize hiring talented individuals who complement your skills and can take over key roles, allowing you to work on scaling the business rather than getting bogged down in day-to-day operations. Building a strong brand presence and a loyal customer base is crucial, and consider sharing your journey through content marketing or building in public to attract attention and potential acquirers. Ultimately, perseverance, a clear vision, and adaptability are key to bootstrapping your way to a successful 10M+ exit in the competitive SaaS landscape.

In episode four of season two we were privileged to host Thomas Smale as we discussed How to sell your B2B SaaS, In this episode however, show host Joran Hofman is joined by Andrew Gazdecki, the CEO and founder of acquire.com. When it comes to bootstrapping and exits there is arguably no better industry expert in the B2B SaaS than Andrew. Andrew has built a strong reputation on LinkedIn through his insightful content and deep understanding of the B2B SaaS landscape. During this episode, Andrew imparts valuable advice to founders who are bootstrapping their SaaS businesses and have aspirations of selling them in the future. If you are in this space then this is your episode!

Key Timecodes

  • (0:28) Show and guest intro
  • (1:23) Why you should listen to Andrew
  • (1:44) What is bootstrapping?
  • (2:35) The key processes or strategies of Bootstrap companies that are key to success
  • (5:02) Andrew's Success Story
  • (8:33) Common mistakes founders make while trying, to grow and sell their company
  • (10:24)  The big exits success stories
  • (13:40) key factors for pricing and valuing your business
  • (17:03) The Must-Haves for SaaS founders to guarantee a good acquisition
  • (22:27) The unique challenges bootstrap companies will have and how can they navigate those.
  • (29:27) The future of valuations
  • (33:40) SaaS growth advice How to grow to 10k monthly recurring revenue and to 10M ARR
14 Mar 2023S1E6 - How to Go To Market with your B2B SaaS with Andrew Davies.00:33:45

How can you bring your B2B SaaS to the market?

Learn it from someone who has been on all sides within the SaaS industry, currently CMO at Paddle and investor/coach at multiple SaaS startups.

Launching a new product onto the market is obviously the next step after development. The go-to-market strategy is essential for introducing a good product or service to new clients and establishing a competitive edge. It includes specialized techniques for pricing products and services, sales and marketing channels, customer journeys, introducing new goods and services, and rebranding in a foreign market. Today's topic features Andrew Davies as we discuss the ideal marketing plan for your goods or services.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:40) Introduction to today's topic and guest expert
  • (1:38) Why you need to listen to today's guest Andrew
  • (3:17) What is a go-to-market strategy (3:52) What needs to be in place before going to market
  • (5:52) Mistakes companies often make with go-to-market
  • (7:23) Strategies and processes for B2B SaaS business for go-to-market strategy
  • (10:12) The role of Accounts-based marketing (ABM)
  • (12:45) Differences between bootstrap and funded companies in implementing go-to-market
  • (15:25) Challenges in go-to-market strategies
  • (19:52) Different channels in your go-to-market strategy
  • (23:09) Current go-to-market at his company, Paddle
  • (25:49) "Balloon in space" payment system in space
  • (27:13) Affiliate marketing in go-to-market strategy
  • (28:40) Advice to beginner companies with 10k revenue on go-to-market strategy
  • (30:02) Advice to established companies with 1 million revenue
  • (31:54) Andrew's contact information

The show is hosted by Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus

24 Oct 2023S2E16 - How to achieve Product Market Fit? With Andy Karuza00:35:29

Achieving Product-Market Fit is a pivotal milestone for any business, ensuring that your product seamlessly meets the demands of your target audience. Discover the essential steps to achieve Product-Market Fit with our comprehensive guide. From market research and identifying customer pain points to refining your value proposition, we provide actionable insights to align your product with market needs. Learn effective strategies for customer feedback loops, rapid iteration, and leveraging analytics to fine-tune your offering. Our expert tips will guide you through the process, helping startups and established businesses alike to navigate the competitive landscape and position their products for success. Explore the path to sustainable growth by mastering Product-Market Fit with our in-depth resources and strategies. Elevate your business to new heights – start optimizing your approach today!

In today's episode on the Grow Your B2B Podcast, we dive deep into the critical milestone of achieving product-market fit. Joining us is Andy Karuza, the marketing lead at Nacho, a seasoned startup investor, advisor, and serial entrepreneur. Andy shares his wealth of experiences, failures, and successes, offering invaluable insights into the journey of finding product-market fit.

Achieving product-market fit is the bedrock of sustainable growth for any SaaS company. Andy Karuza's journey and insights provide a roadmap for entrepreneurs to navigate the challenges and make informed decisions on their path to success. Remember, it's not just about selling a product; it's about solving a problem and creating a product that customers love.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro
  • (1:12) Why you should listen to Andy Karuza
  • (3:38) What is product market fit? 
  • (4:35) Why is product market fit so crucial for startups?
  • (6:29)  How to determine your ideal customer profile(ICP)
  • (7:58) Common mistakes or misconceptions companies have while trying to achieve product market fit.
  • (10:00) The right timing to pivot? 
  • (11:10) Andy’s ideal product market fit process
  • (14:46) Andy’s frameworks or methodologies 
  • (15:38) The common challenges companies face while implementing product market fit?
  • (22:42) How Andy is trying to achieve product market fit for Nacho at the moment? 
  • (24:25) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (25:32) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (27:30) Andy’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (30:09) What Andy wishes he knew 10yrs ago 
17 Oct 2023S2E15 - How to plan, predict & prove your Go To Market plan? With Mark Stouse00:37:18

The most listened-to episode of Season 1 is still about how to go to market with Andrew Davis, and for this reason we are going to dive deeper into this same particular topic on How to plan, predict and prove your Go To Market plan. Our subject matter expert is Mark Stouse, CEO of Proof Analytics, an AI-powered platform for GTM.Mark's has 30 years in marketing, He was CMO for 10 years, now CEO at Proof Analytics. 

Crafting a successful Go-To-Market (GTM) plan requires a strategic approach encompassing planning, prediction, and validation. Begin by meticulously planning each phase, outlining key objectives, target audience, and messaging. Leverage market research to predict trends and customer needs, ensuring your GTM plan remains adaptable to dynamic market landscapes. Implement analytics tools to measure and prove the plan's effectiveness, tracking key performance indicators (KPIs) such as customer acquisition cost, conversion rates, and revenue growth. Regularly reassess and refine your strategy based on data-driven insights to stay ahead in a competitive market. A well-structured GTM plan, grounded in foresight and substantiated by measurable results, is the cornerstone for achieving sustained market success.

Key Timecodes

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro
  • (1:14 ) Why you should listen to Mark Stouse
  • (3:28) What is Go to market? 
  • (5:19) What kind of role does AI play in a go-to-market strategy?
  • (6:44)  What is marketing mix modeling?
  • (11:02)   Common mistakes companies make while building their go-to-market strategy
  • (12:07) Mark’s process for market strategy from scratch.
  • (17:23) Things successful companies have in common in regards to to go-to-market strategies
  • (18:39) What Common challenges are faced when taking your company or product code to the market?
  • (21:18)  The right timing to pivot? 
  • (22:54) Advice on how to grow to 10 K monthly recurring revenue.
  • (25:44) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (30:42) What Mark wishes he knew 10yrs ago
25 Jul 2023S2E3 - How to build a strong Culture? with Mads Wedderkopp00:36:48

Want to build a strong for your startup?

In the third episode of season two of Growing a B2B SaaS, host Joran Hofman delves into building a strong company culture to foster growth in a B2B SaaS organization. Joined by Mads Wedderkopp, CEO of Dream Influence, an influential marketing SaaS platform, they explore the significance of recruiting and retaining top talent to accelerate SaaS growth.


Mads, drawing from his experience in scaling a SaaS company from zero to 6.5 million ARR, emphasizes the power of a strong culture in unlocking a team's potential. He shares invaluable insights on identifying core values and aligning team members to nurture a thriving culture. The episode also delves into the challenges and advantages of maintaining a strong culture while transitioning to remote work amidst the COVID-19 pandemic. Tune in to discover practical strategies for cultivating a robust company culture that drives B2B SaaS success.


Timecodes

  • (00:29) Guest intro
  • (1:21) Why you should listen to Mads
  • (2:53) What Mads determines as a strong culture?
  • (4:28) What else needs to be in place before you can really start building a culture?
  • (5:54) Can you have a strong culture while working remotely?
  • (9:15) Common mistake companies make while trying to build a company culture?
  • (14:26) The effective hiring structure
  • (14:54) Other Processes or strategies for building a strong culture.(Mads secret)
  • (26:56) Why leveraging somebody else's network is important as a B2B SaaS company?
  • (30:15) Advice on how to grow to 10K MRR ad then to 1m ARR
  • (32:44) What Mads wished he knew 10 years ago
  • (35:37) Mads contact info
15 Oct 2024S5E4 - Affiliate Marketing for B2B SaaS companies With Joran Hofman00:25:02

Affiliate marketing is an invaluable strategy for B2B SaaS companies that want to expand their reach and increase sales. In this special episode, the host of this show Grow Your B2B SaaS Podcast, Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus, hosts himself to dissect the crucial topic of affiliate marketing. By leveraging third-party affiliates—such as influencers, bloggers, and consultants—companies can promote their products or services and pay affiliates a commission for driving conversions. This indirect marketing approach lets companies tap into new audiences and grow their customer base effectively. However, to succeed in affiliate marketing for B2B SaaS companies, you need a strategic approach and a clear understanding of the different types of marketing models, including referral, affiliate, and partner marketing. Key Timecodes

  • (00:00) - Introduction: Selling Yourself First
  • (01:03) - Joran's Background and Journey to Reditus
  • (02:13) - Understanding Indirect Marketing
  • (03:29) - Explanation of Referral Marketing
  • (04:46) - What is Affiliate Marketing?
  • (05:55) - Partner Marketing Defined
  • (07:06) - Common Mistakes in Affiliate Programs
  • (09:18) - Affiliate Marketing: Not a Quick Win
  • (10:18) - Importance of Onboarding Affiliates
  • (11:25) - Strategies for Growing an Affiliate Program
  • (12:33) - Competitor Analysis for Affiliate Recruitment
  • (13:43) - Leveraging Keywords and Content
  • (14:43) - Using Affiliate Networks
  • (15:49) - Inviting Your User Base
  • (16:55) - Responsibility in Affiliate Program Management
  • (18:01) - Challenges in Growing an Affiliate Program
  • (19:08) - Future of Affiliate Marketing
  • (20:14) - Hybrid Deals and Long-Term Partnerships
  • (21:24) - Advice for Growing a B2B SaaS Company to 10K MRR
  • (22:33) - Moving from 10K MRR to 10M ARR
  • (23:46) - Predicting Growth and Resource Needs
  • (24:51) - Conclusion and Call to Action
23 Jan 2024S3E8 - How to get your first 1.000 users for your B2B SaaS With Simon Høiberg00:35:30

What exactly is user acquisition, and how can you secure your first 1,000 users for your B2B SaaS venture?

This process requires SaaS founders to meticulously craft products with the end user in mind. Establishing a minimal, lovable product before embarking on user acquisition stands out as a pivotal step in this journey.

Shedding light on this crucial aspect, show host Joran Hofman engages in a conversation with Simon Hoiberg, the esteemed founder of FeedHive. Simon is widely recognized for his expertise in initiating and managing small, bootstrapped self-serve SaaS products, boasting a successful track record of building multiple SaaS businesses. Key Timecodes

  • (0:37) Show and guest intro

  • (1:20) Why you should listen to Simon Høiberg

  • (2:10) What is user acquisition?

  • (2:52) The minimum business requirements for User acquisition

  •  (3:19) When to think about acquiring users

  • (5:24) The most common mistakes companies make while trying to acquire new users

  • (6:21) Exploring Simon's User Growth System: A Journey through its Stages                

  1. (8:32) Stage 1

  2. (12:23) Stage 2 

  3. (15:07) The stage drop off effect

  4. (16:07) Stage 3

  • (21:33) Common challenges and obstacles faced while implementing user acquisition

  • (23:39) How Simon runs his team

  • (24:46) Why Simon Prefers Handling Everything Personally Instead of Delegating to His Team

  • (26:28) Simon’s reason for staying bootstrapped

  • (28:33) How to grow towards 10K MRR

  • (30:25) How to grow towards 10 million ARR

  • (32:08) Simon’s crucial advice to B2B SaaS founders 

  • (32:43) What Simon Wishes he knew 10 years ago

09 May 2023S1E14 - How to create a demand generation strategy with Casey Hill00:41:08

Do you have the necessary demand to create your B2B SaaS? In today's episode, we discuss creating a demand strategy for your SaaS and accelerating your growth. In today’s episode we are privileged to host the head of growth at Bonjoro, Casey Hill, is an authority on this subject matter. He advises various startups and doubles as a growth mentor and professor at the University of California, Santiago.

Why you need to listen to Casey – He has worked with various early-stage startups between zero MMR to 1M ARR. He is also experienced with demand generation strategies for maturing companies. Therefore, Casey is best placed to offer valuable advice on things to do in order for a SaaS to realize desired demand generation.

What do you consider demand generation – He describes demand generation as actions explicitly capturing the core interest at the top of the funnel. Demand generation strategies are not product-centric strategies related to demand capture. To capture interest, a SaaS founder has to create a problem to which they offer a solution.


Key Timecodes

  • (0:30) Introduction of the topic and guest
  • (1:15) Why you need to listen to Casey
  • (2:14) What do you consider demand generation
  • (4:02) What needs to be in place before starting to create demand
  • (5:38) Common mistakes SaaS companies make while setting up demand generation
  • (8:13) How do you include affiliate partners in the demand generation strategy
  • (13:20) Best-practice strategies and processes for demand generation
  • (21:44) Challenges people face when setting up demand generation strategy 
  • (25:47) How do you track your many channels 
  • (29:45) Advice to SaaS business with 10K MMR 
  • (32:11) Advice to SaaS business with 1M AAR 
  • (37:00) Casey's contact information.
30 May 2023S1E17 - How to create predictable revenue for your B2B SaaS with Ton Dobbe00:38:25

Is your B2B SaaS growing predictably? To realize desired growth, it helps to have the traction you can predict. This requires putting in place a working plan, which our expert guest today clearly spells out. Ton Dobbe is most suited to talk about predictable growth, given his many years working in the B2B industry. He is also the author of the informative book titled The Remarkable Effect.


Why you need to listen to Ton: Our guest expert is highly experienced in matters B2B SaaS, having worked in the industry for over 30 years. His book, The Remarkable Effect, provides a tried and tested framework for accelerating your journey towards predictable traction. He has helped several companies with strong products that struggle with growing predictably. From the few business examples he quotes, it is clear that his framework is highly successful for businesses across various industries.


What is predictable traction: Ton defines predictable traction as "the art of turning initial success into reliable acceleration motion of sales, not only in good times but also in bad times." He reckons that while any marketer can create traction for their product, the most important thing is the ability to keep getting up, especially during downturns.


Why did he write The Remarkable Effect framework book: He was inspired by a guest on his podcast to write a book. As such, he wrote the book in which he captured all his past experiences and anecdotes from his podcast episodes. He titled it The Remarkable Effect from the podcast stories of remarkable software company personnel he hosted on his podcast. Ton was interested in discovering what makes remarkable software companies tick.


The value lever of The Remarkable Effect framework: Ton unpacks the building stones of his remarkable effect framework: Value, Viability, and Volume. The value lever forms the foundation of a B2B SaaS, which spells out the remarkable aspects of the business in terms of the value their product or service provides to the ideal customer profile. Further, the business should provide a valuable and desirable product.


Time Stamps

  • (0:30) Introduction of today's topic and guest expert
  • (1:31) Why you need to listen to Ton
  • (04:30) What is predictable traction
  • (05:15) Why did he write The Remarkable Effect Framework book
  • (08:09­) The value lever of The Remarkable Effect framework
  • (11:09) The viability lever of The Remarkable Effect framework
  • (17:33) Step 3 The Volume lever of The Remarkable Effect framework
  • (22:43) Common mistakes for business in predictable growth
  • (26:27) How to implement The Remarkable Effect framework
  • (27:46) When does a company need professional help with predictable growth
  • (30:30) Advice to B2B SaaS with 10K MRR
  • (33:14) Advice to B2B SaaS with 1M ARR
  • (36:50) Ton's contact information


21 Feb 2023S1E3 - Affiliate Marketing Simplified With Evan Weber00:43:07

Why should you care about affiliate marketing for your B2B SaaS?

We talk with Evan Weber who has been in the industry for a very long term since the inception of affiliate marketing. He has been consulting for over 350 companies in the last 15 years, doing media buying and managing the ad campaign on the agency media platforms. He has plenty of references in B2B, thus one of the direct consumer and digital marketing advertising experts. In addition, he has traveled extensively, which allows him to know what would work. Our guest emphasizes that conversion rate should be a key focus area of the company. Continuously strive to increase your conversion rate by growing the number of people registering and becoming paying customers. An excellent conversion rate effectively improves digital advertising and makes money for their affiliates. Before launching an affiliate program, ensure you have an excellent conversion rate. It is only then that the affiliates can make meaningful returns. A takeaway quote from him is:, "You will not be able to scale without a conversion rate optimization being an active activity of the company months on end." What is affiliate marketing? Affiliate marketing refers to a third-party referral to clicks that converts to leads or sales. These include bloggers, influencers, other companies, or donors that a company can turn into affiliates. Since affiliates are often not the company's customers, striving to convert your customers and free users into affiliates who, in turn, give you referrals is crucial. It is, therefore, important to push your Saas affiliate marketing program to people in a friendly way that offers them clear benefits such as free trials or payouts. Spend money to make money. It would be best if you made it highly lucrative for other people to recommend your company in exchange for paid clients or new leads through commission or kickback fee. Some SaaS affiliate companies can pay their affiliates for a given period (say a year), while others may opt for a more lucrative customer lifetime payment. What are the benefits of a B2B SaaS company having an affiliate marketing program? It is performance-based marketing that only pays affiliates for the traffic they drive to your website. To make business sense, the payment to the affiliates should be between 20% - 30% of your revenue. Also, the SaaS affiliate program is risk-free in the sense that you do not risk your advertising dollars in an expensive digital marketing campaign.

The right time is when you have increased your conversion rate adequately and run other traffic sources to the website to try to get them to convert. He suggests 3-6 months before setting up a SaaS affiliate program. An affiliate program is not the company's savior but rather an important complement to other organizational efforts, such as successful conversion rate and outreach. What are the common mistakes that companies make in affiliate marketing? One of the main problems is launching an affiliate marketing program before the company is ready and expecting to work. It should not be the first go-to alternative before an enabling environment exists at the company. Secondly, it often boils down to how the company strives to bond with its affiliates or find other companies to have a reciprocal relationship with SaaS companies often benefit from reverse affiliate marketing on their dashboard, often non-competitors with a similar audience. You only need a few affiliate companies because 2 or 3 a month can be regarded as a success. This way, you can benefit from dashboard swaps, email swaps, the partnership offers, SaaS blogs, influencers, or video content creation with other B2B SaaS affiliate companies.

This show is hosted by Joran Hofman, founder of Reditus.

16 May 2023S1E15 - How to launch your SaaS on Producthunt with Fabian Maume00:34:27

Did you know that experimenting can result in desired growth for your B2B SaaS? Experimenting can help to establish what’s working for the business and growth inhibitors. In B2b SaaS business terms, we call this experimentation “growth hacking” or “growth marketing.” In today’s episode, we revisit the exciting topic of launching on Product Hunt. Our guest expert is a real “hunter,” Fabian Maume, a contractual CMO for SaaS companies. He shares his experience of successfully launching a product on Product Hunt. Fabian also enlightens us on why launches differ and what tricks are for success.

Why do you need to listen to Fabian – He has undertaken various product launches, achieving a “Product of the Day” ranking along the way. Furthermore, Fabian has made five times the top 5 of the day on Product Hunt. He, therefore, has gained valuable experience in launching the platform for SaaS.

Difference between maker and hunter – The term maker refers to the people who develop a product, also comprising the marketing team in a SaaS company. On the other hand, hunters relate to people who spot new SaaS companies or give exposure to the Product. Furthermore, Fabian explains that a hunter has an existing audience on their social media that they leverage for exposure to the Product. The hunter also doubles as an advisor to the SaaS company on pre-launch.

Benefits of launching on Product Hunt – Launching on the platform provides a SaaS with significant organic reach. The degree of exposure depends on the level of ranking that the company has attained. Secondly, a SaaS earns a badge for the operators of the day when they finish in the top 5 categories. This reliable source of social proof is increasingly relevant in today’s digital marketplace. Thirdly, a business benefits from a free Do Follow backlink on the platform. 

Key Timecodes

  • (0:30) Introduction of topic and guest expert
  • (01:30) Why do you need to listen to Fabian 
  • (02:05) Difference between maker and hunter 
  • (03:54) Benefits of launching on Product Hunt 
  • (05:27) Prepping for the launch 
  • (07:40) Importance of finding a good hunter 
  • (09:35) Things to do on launch day – 
  •  (13:29) Does the day of the week matter for a launch 
  • (14:23) Best practices for launching 
  • (16:40) Minimum requirements for launching on Product Hunt 
  • (19:13) Things to do after launch day
  • (21:23) Growth hacks for launching on Product Hunt 
  • (22:23) Common mistakes companies make during product launch on Product Hunt 
  • (24:12) Importance of professional help during the launching 
  • (25:32) Role of affiliates in product launch on Product Hunt 
  • (27:27) Advice to a SaaS with 10k MRR 
  • (30:06) Advice to a SaaS with 1M ARR 
  • (33:20) Fabian’s contact information.
31 Oct 2023S2E17 - How to leverage Marketing Automation for your SaaS? With Shay Howe00:36:42

What is marketing automation and why is it important for your B2B SaaS? Well, the automation of processes will be required if hypergrowth is to be achieved, encompassing marketing and client messaging. In this episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast hosted by Joran Hofman we dive deep into one of the most important SaaS topics of marketing automation and how it can be leveraged for your B2B SaaS. The goal, naturally, is to enable hypergrowth to be maintained without compromising the customer experience. Shay Howe, CMO at Active Campaign, is the guest for today's episode. Active Campaign boasts a clientele exceeding 185,000 and annual revenue well surpassing 165 million, experiencing a year-on-year growth of 65% in 2021. Currently, they have accumulated more than 10,000 reviews on G2, a fact that is deemed highly impressive. Alongside his role at Active Campaign, Shay is also the co-founder of Lead Honestly, Chicago Camps and an advisory board member at G2. Without further ado, a warm welcome to the show, Shay


Key Timecodes Shay Howe

  • (0:29) Show and guest intro
  • (1:31) Why you should listen to Shay Howe
  • (2:00) What is marketing automation? 
  • (4:10)  Why and when should SaaS companies care about leveraging marketing automation?
  • (7:08)  When should you not think about doing marketing automation?
  • (8:38) Common mistakes or misconceptions companies have while trying to implement Marketing Automation..
  • (12:20) Shay’s ideal marketing automation process
  • (14:36) Where and how to start automation
  • (17:59) The common challenges companies face while implementing marketing automation
  • (21:26 ) Strategies on how to get the most out of your marketing automation tools
  • (26:01) Future plans for marketing automation? 
  • (29:26) How to grow towards 10K MRR
  • (30:46) How to grow towards 10 million ARR
  • (32:14) Shay’s crucial advice to SaaS founders
  • (33:46) What Shay wishes he knew 10yrs ago 
02 Jul 2024S4E10 - How To Grow Your SaaS While Being Sued With Preston Keller00:30:03

In a recent episode of the Grow Your B2B SaaS podcast, host Joran interviewed Preston Keller, also known as PK, the founder of Emergent 3 and creator of e3, a safety and emergency SaaS platform targeting governments, educational institutions, and businesses. PK's journey from launching e3 in 2021 to achieving a million dollars in Annual Recurring Revenue (ARR) is filled with valuable lessons for aspiring entrepreneurs. His diverse background includes internal sales, consulting with professors, partnership at Thresik Group, and founding a company in Asia.

Key Timecodes

  • (00:53) - Guest Introduction
  • (01:25) - Starting e3
  • (01:56) - Company Overview
  • (02:21) - Personal Background
  • (03:03) - Motivation and End Goals
  • (03:26) - Origin of the Idea for e3
  • (04:04) - Initial Funding and Growth
  • (07:32) - Challenges and Lawsuits
  • (14:35) - Post-Lawsuit Strategy
  • (18:49) - Go-to-Market Strategy
  • (20:06) - Customer Retention and Challenges
  • (20:45) - Processes and Systems
  • (23:04) - Learning from Mistakes
  • (23:55) - Advice and Outsourcing
  • (25:22) - Motivation and Team Trust
  • (25:58) - Family and Friends in the Business
  • (27:07) - Final Advice for Founders
13 Jun 2023S1E19 - How to Set up Multi-Channel Marketing Tracking With Julia Draghici00:28:42

How do you Set up a Multi-Channel Marketing Tracking strategy? Are you doing the proper multi-channel tracking for your business? The key to business growth is tracking what is working and not working. In today’s episode, we discuss how to track all your marketing efforts across various channels. Julia Draghici is our guest expert today. She is the founder and CEO of CPV Lab, a bootstrapped tracking tool that helps businesses to manage their multi-channel marketing efforts.

Why you need to listen to Julia: Julia has been a SaaS co-founder for the last 5 years with a computer science and economics background. In the previous 15 years, she has gained much experience in different work areas, including Project Management and Software Development. As such, she is skilled in customer support, affiliate marketing, sales, and strategic planning.

What is multi-channel market tracking: Julia starts by unpacking omnichannel marketing to establish business visibility on all channels where the target audience is found. In this regard, multi-channel tracking entails monitoring the performance of your efforts across various channels. A SaaS can figure out the best-performing channels and thus place greater priority on them. In addition, tracking helps to understand customer behavior and affiliate partners.

Minimum requirements for tracking multi-channels: According to Julia, the natural starting point of tracking them is defining them first. Defining a channel enables a SaaS to determine its target audience. Instead of following trendy channels by competitors, it is better to target channels with your ideal customer profile. Secondly, you should define your budget for the tracking effort. When bootstrapping, Julia advises splitting your budget across the various selected channels and testing them for about 3 months. It also helps to run display ads and engage partners to leverage their established marketing networks.

Common mistakes in multi-channel tracking: Julia points to the failure to compare data between and across the various channels as the main mistake by most companies. Given that each traffic source has its tracking system, it is crucial to compare the data results to figure out the best-converting ones. She suggests that a SaaS should utilize a single tracking platform for the multi-channels to avoid the danger of wrong attribution.

Time Stamps

  • (0:40) Introduction of today’s topic and guest expert
  • (1:27) Why you need to listen to Julia 
  • (03:12) What is multi-channel market tracking 
  • (04:45) Minimum requirements for tracking multi-channels: 
  • (07:37) Common mistakes in multi-channel tracking:
  • (10:21) Most suitable model for attributing conversion 
  • (12:45) How multi-channel tracking helps determine performance 
  • (15:05) Common pitfalls to avoid during multi-channel tracking:  
  • (17:21) How to start multi-channel tracking: 
  • (19:15) Winning strategies for top affiliate marketers: 
  • (23:15) Advice to SaaS founders with 10K MRR: 
  • (25:06) Advice to SaaS business with 1M ARR: 
  • (27:21) Julia’s contact information 

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