Future of HR (JP Elliott)

How will AI impact you and your organization?

Why will AI make emotional intelligence even more important in the future?

My guest on this episode Is Tomas Chamorro-Premuzic, author of “I, Human: AI, Automation, and the Quest to Reclaim What Makes Us Unique.”

During our conversation, Tomas and I discuss:

• His early career and how it led him to focus his research and writings on human intelligence

• How AI plays on our need to 1) relate to others, 2) compete with others, and 3) make sense of our world

• How AI is making us more impulsive, more biased, and less curious…and what we can do about it

• Why EQ and “soft skills” will become even more important for leaders in the age of AI

• Why AI has the potential to quantify job performance for knowledge workers

• What leaders fear most about the coming age of AI

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• Why she felt early in her career that she was chasing inclusion
• Why organizations must work to debunk 13 common myths about diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging
• How to engage and respond to a leader who says, “I am all for diverse talent as long as they are good”
• Why she believes the best way to change the stereotypes in our heads is to expand our social circles
• Why we should be reimagining the role and impact that Chief Diversity Officers can have on an organization
• The questions a Chief Diversity Officer should ask the CEO before accepting a job offer

How can you best design and optimize your remote or hybrid work practices to increase productivity, collaboration and culture?

My guest on this episode is Nick Bloom, WFH expert & Professor of Economics at Stanford UniversityDuring our conversation Nick and I discuss:

• How he became the expert on “Working From Home” research
• The real reason “work from home” has increased over the past few years (hint: it is not just the pandemic)
• Why people working from home are more likely to log hours at night or on the weekends
• What the research really says about productivity and “remote / hybrid work”
• Why organized hybrid work schedules are becoming more popular
• Why he believes a strong performance management system is critical to successful hybrid/remote work workplaces
• Why he believes work from home will increase like a Nike swoosh over the next ten years

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Why is the single biggest barrier to having power…ourselves?

How can you, as an HR professional step into your power?

My guest on this episode is Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor of Organizational Behavior at the Graduate School of Business, Stanford University and Author of 16 books including his latest one the “7 Rules of Power - Surprising But True Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career”

During our conversation Jeffrey and I discuss:

• Why he believes the single biggest barrier to having power is ourselves
• Why it is important that we own and tell our story, not let others tell it for us
• Why he believes that being authentic and/or modest is terrible leadership advice Why networking is a super power and how to do it well
• Why he believes HR needs to raise the bar and step into their power
• His advice on how to deal with difficult leaders in positions of power

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Learn more about the Jeffrey’s books, research, podcast and more

What does it take to create a championship culture?

How can you create a compelling employee experience that drives engagement?

My guest on this episode is Shaun Mayo, Chief People Officer, Arizona Cardinals Football Club

During our conversation Shaun and I discuss:

• How he was “drafted” into an HR role early in his career
• What it is like to be a Chief People Officer in the NFL?
• How the organization is working to instill a championship culture on and off the field
• How they are redefining their values and what it means to be a Cardinal
• His advice for HR leaders who want to redefine their values and culture
• Why believes in creating a compelling employee experience is critical high performance and employee engagement

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The “Best of 2023” episode features sixteen don’t miss moments from HR executives and thought leaders who…

So, who can you expect to learn from on this episode?

• Lisa Buckingham, former Chief People, Place & Brand Officer at Lincoln Financial Group
• Dave Ulrich, Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan and a partner at The RBL Group
• Matt Breitfelder, Head of Human Capital and Partner at Apollo Global Management
• Miriam Ort, EVP & CHRO at C&S Wholesale Grocers & Symbotic
• Sam Hammock, EVP & CHRO at Verizon
• Ola Snow, CHRO, Cardinal Health
• Andre’ Martin, PhD, Founder of Shift Space and author of “Wrong Fit, Right Fit”
• Tami Rosen, Chief People Officer at Pagaya
• Jay Parker, founder and CEO of Mentorforce
• Cary Friedman, Global Head of Human Resources at Jefferies
• Matt Abrahams, a leading expert in communication and author of “Think Faster, Talk Smarter”
• Mita Mallick, Chief Diversity Officer & Author of “Reimagine Inclusion”
• Nick Bloom, WFH expert & Professor of Economics at Stanford University
• Anne Gotte, VP Global Talent, General Mills & Joe Garbus, EVP Global Head of Talent, PVH Corp.
• Peter Block, author of Flawless Consulting and Partner at Designed Learning
• Chris Scalia, Chief Human Resources Officer, The Hershey Company

How can taking initiative accelerate your career?

Why is experimenting the key to learning?

My guest on this episode is Humera Malik Shahid

During our conversation, Humera and I discuss the following:

• Why you should follow your passion and not be afraid to take risks

• How to land your dream job in the tech

• Why you should evaluate your personal and professional goals every year

• Her advice for aspiring Chief Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion Officers

Why is it important that you learn to lead outside of your area of expertise?My guest on this episode is Wanda Wallace, Managing Partner of Leadership ForumDuring our conversation Wanda and I discuss:

• The common leadership beliefs that she passionately disagrees with

• Why she believes people get promoted past their level of expertise and what to do about it

• The importance of executive transitions and why expecting that “execs will figure it out” is a recipe for failure

• Why it is so important that leaders learn how to lead people who have expertise they don’t have

• Her advice for female leaders who want to move from being perceived as “operational” to being seen as “strategic”

Connecting with Wanda:Connect with Wanda Wallace on LinkedInLearn more about Wanda and her work at Leadership Forum

What does it mean to be an “Essential Leader” in the future of work?

What is a “gray collar” job and why are they the future for many industries?

My guest on this episode is Kelly Monahan, Managing Director, Research Institute @ Upwork, Christie Smith, Founder of The Humanity Studio

During our conversation Kelly, Christie, and I discuss:

• Why designing "unicorn jobs" is hurting both candidates and organizations - and what to do instead.
• The rise of "gray collar" jobs jobs—a blend of white and blue-collar skills and what this means for the future of work.
• Why employee agency and autonomy are non-negotiable elements for building high-performing cultures in today's workplace.
• Why leaders need to spend more time identifying the work that needs to be done by a human and what work should be done with AI
• Why “Essential Leaders” of the future will have to focus on their teams, not themselves.

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• Why she thinks of her career in four phases and why you should too
• What she learned being the first Chief People Officer at three different companies
• How she has replaced performance management with a “continuous learning cycle” that focuses on learning from successes and failures
• How being open to receiving feedback can positively impacted your career
• Why she believes we have changed “where” we work, but not “how” we work

Are you flourishing at work, or could you be languishing?

What creates true wellbeing in the workplace?

My guest on this episode is Corey Keyes, Professor Emeritus of Sociology at Emory University and Author, “Languishing: How to Feel Alive Again in a World That Wears Us Down.”

During our conversation Corey and I discuss:

• How "languishing" represents a state between depression and flourishing, characterized by feelings of emptiness and emotional numbness
• The six domains of human excellence and their role as foundations for flourishing
• Why actively engaging in the "Five Vitamins of Flourishing" is essential for mental wellbeing
• The critical role of quality workplace relationships in preventing invisibility and promoting flourishing
• How leaders can create conditions that support wellbeing and flourishing in the workplace

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How can you identify and place top talent in stretch assignments?

What does it mean to invest in and place a bet on talent?

My guest on this episode is Stephanie Lilak, EVP & Chief People Officer, Mondelez International

During our conversation Stephanie and I discuss:

• How Stephanie's unique career philosophy and making unconventional career choices have driven her success.
• Why she believes in stretching talent throughout all career stages, not just in early careers.
• The critical role of HR leaders in driving the talent agenda and an aligning the role, talent and business needs to drive value.
• Why she believes peer relationships for HR leaders are critical and you need to purposefully invest in them
• Insights into Stephanie's approach to onboarding as a 3X CHRO and lessons you can apply to your organization.

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What does it mean to lead with empathy and purpose?

How can you create a high-performance culture where employees feel safe to be themselves?

My guest on this episode is Tricia Alcamo, CHRO and with prior experience at FanDuel, Spectrum Enterprise, American Express, Deloitte Consulting

During our conversation Tricia and I discuss:

• What it means to lead with empathy and create a culture where employees feel safe to be themselves.
• How she created her own career opportunities early on, and how you can do the same.
• Why CHROs should have a chief of staff and how to design the role for success.
• The meaning behind her personal motto: 'How hard can it be?
• How different stages of company growth or maturity require different HR strategies for success.
• Why every HR initiative should directly align with the business strategy.

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Why is it important that we speak truth to power? How can you redesign your current role to super charge your career?

My guest on this episode is Holly Tyson, Chief People Officer at Cushman & Wakefield.

During our conversation, Holly and I discuss the following

• How and when you should speak truth to power

• Holly’s advice for aspiring Chief People Officers

• How to redesign your current role and why it will accelerate your career growth

• Why you need many mentors throughout your career

How will AI shape the future of hiring from a candidate and company perspective?

How can AI to help us assess skills and human potential in the hiring process?

My guest on this episode is Lindsey Zuloaga, Chief Data Scientist, HireVue

During our conversation Lindsey and I discuss:

• Why she calls herself a techno-realist and what that means.
• Why it is a misconception that AI, not humans make the final hiring decisions
• How evaluating and testing AI tools can prevent falling prey to overhyped, ineffective solutions.
• The potential of AI to remove traditional biases in the hiring process.
• How focusing on potential and assessing skills over past experience can transform hiring practices.

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How can you create a culture that embraces change?

Why is it critical to build leaders at levels of your organization?

My guest on this episode is Monique Herena, Chief Colleague Experience Officer at American Express.

During our conversation Monique and I discuss:

• Monique's philosophy on taking career leaps and the importance of stepping out of your comfort zone.
• Why American Express refers to their team members as colleagues and invests in improving the “colleague experience” each and every day.
• Why their framework for winning is the north star for their business strategy and culture
• How American Express is building enterprise leaders at all levels of the organization.
• Why next-gen HR leaders should embrace change and adopt a mindset of continuous learning and improvement.

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How do the most effective leadership teams really make decisions?

Why do traditional approaches to team effectiveness often fail?

My guests on this episode are Wanda Wallace, Managing Partner of Leadership Forum and Darren Overfield, EVP, Coaching & Consulting at Kaiser Leadership Solutions

During our conversation Wanda, Darren and I discuss:

• Why traditional ideas about executive team effectiveness often fail in the real world.
• The surprising discovery that “cliques” and subgroups in executive teams can actually help, not hurt, team effectiveness.
• Why transparency is critical to reducing conflict and improving team dynamics.
• How effective top teams “zoom in and zoom out” to encourage collaboration and healthy debates.
• How HR leaders can guide their leaders in creating natural “hubs” that result in high-performing teams.

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How do you build authentic relationships that lead to trust?

Why is it more important to be effective, than right when it comes to equity and inclusion?

My guest on this episode is James Fripp, Chief Equity and Inclusion Officer, Yum! Brands

During our conversation, James and I discuss the following:

• Why you should seek out mentors who are different, not similar to you

• How to build authentic relationships that lead to trust and a culture of belonging

• Why he is a business partner first and an equity and inclusion practitioner second

• His advice for how new Chief Equity and Inclusions Officers can make an impact in their first six months

Why does it mean to be a built to last company, like Johnson and Johnson?

How can you build a talent pipeline that produces a deep bench of leaders?

My guest on this episode is Peter Fasolo, CHRO and Micheal Ehret, Head of Global Talent Management at Johnson & Johnson

During our conversation Peter, Michael and I discuss:

• The power of J&J’s Credo and how it has served as the organization’s north star for over 135 years.
• How CHROs and Heads of Talent can partner to create value for their organizations
• Why talent leaders need to have a point of view on the top 100+ leaders in their organization.
• Why every HR professional needs to think about their job in terms of the outcomes they deliver.
• How J&J is personalizing career journeys and using skills as the foundation for their mentoring programs.
• How Generative AI and the digital transformation of work will impact every organization’s people strategies

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What really matters when it comes to CEO and executive succession?

What role should CHROs play in executive succession?

My guests on this episode are Kevin Cox, Founder and President of LKC Advisory and Anthony Nyberg, Director, Center for Executive Succession at University of South Carolina.

During our conversation Kevin, Anthony, and I discuss:

• Why culture is owned by the CEO, not the CHRO
• What is the one common mistake that Boards make during the executive succession process and how to fix it.
• The most important role that CHROs can play in executive succession process.
• Why CFOs are more likely to be promoted internally than CHROs.
• Why character, courage, and business acumen are three of the most important traits of successful CHROS

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Learn more about Center for Executive Succession

Resources mentioned in this conversation:

CEO succession planning playbook

CHRO Principles: Responsible Use of AI in Organizations

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How can teams overcome collaboration overload?

Why are the three components of trust critical to building an effective team?

My guest on this episode is Rob Cross, Senior Vice President of Research at i4cp and Katheryn Brekken, Senior Research Analyst at i4cp

During our conversation Rob, Katheryn, and I discuss:

• Why eight out of ten teams actually underperform due to collaborative dysfunctions.
• How common collaborative dysfunctions, such as misalignment and priority overload, hinder team performance, and what to do about it.
• How companies like Roche and Supercell are using innovative practices to dramatically improve team collaboration.
• How HR can play a pivotal role in supporting effective team collaboration across an organization.
• Why combining “precision collaboration” with a high-trust environment is critical to increase team effectiveness.

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How do we want our leaders, our organizations, and HR to be augmented by AI?

Why is generative AI an historic opportunity for HR leaders to shape the future of work and leadership?

My guests on this episode are Bob Johansen, Distinguished Fellow at Institute for the Future (IFTF), Gabe Cervantes, Director, Scalable Foresight, IFTF, and Jeremy Kirshbaum, CEO, Handshake, a generative AI consultancy who go deep into their new book, Leaders Make the Future: 10 New Skills to Humanize Leadership with Generative AI”

During our conversation Bob, Gabe, and Jeremy and I discuss:

• How "future-backed thinking" helps leaders craft bold 10-year visions for their organizations.
• The shift from a VUCA world (Volatility, Uncertainty, Complexity, Ambiguity) to a BANI future (Brittle, Anxious, Nonlinear, Incomprehensible), and its implications for leaders.
• What early aviation's breakthroughs can teach us about managing AI innovation today and tomorrow.
• The rise of "smart mobs and agentic swarms" and how these new team structures will blend AI and human talent at scale.
• How HR can shape an AI-enabled workplace that keeps humans at the center.

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Why is being intellectually curious so important to your career success? How can you identify, analyze and solve business problems like a consultant?

My guest on this episode is Aaron Sorensen, Partner and Chief Behavioral Scientist at Lotis Blue Consulting.

During our conversation, Aaron and I discuss the following

• The skills and capabilities required to be a successful consultant

• The most common misconceptions about being a consultant

• How to improve your critical thinking skills

• Why the next generation of HR pro’s must be digital natives to stay relevant

Aaron’s Book Recommendations:

Understanding Michael Porter: The Essential Guide to Competition and Strategy by Joan Magretta

The Minto Pyramid Principle: Logic in Writing, Thinking, & Problem Solving by Barbara Minto

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Lotis Blue Consulting

Why is friction both good and bad for your organization

How can leaders identify and reduce bad friction?

My guest on this episode is Bob Sutton who is an organizational psychologist, professor emeritus at Stanford, New York Times bestselling author, and speaker.

During our conversation Bob and I discuss:

• Why you should think like a “friction fixer” regardless of your position
• When and how to apply “good friction” to slow things down for better decision making
• How to identify good and bad friction in your organization
• Why empathetic leaders seek out the “friction” in their organizations and then work to reduce it
• How to play the “subtraction game” and how it can help your organization

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Learn more about Bob and his latest book, “The Friction Project”

What characteristics define the best leaders?

How can you lead with purpose and passion?

My guest on this episode is Anne Gotte, VP Global Talent Management, Bumble Inc.

During our conversation, Anne and I discuss the following:

• Why she believes early in your career “you have everything to learn” but nothing to prove

• The four capabilities that differentiate the best talent management leaders

• Why it is important to align your career decisions with your values

• What makes Bumble’s culture different than anywhere else she ever has worked

• The female leaders she admires the most and why

What makes someone a powerful communicator? 

Why does every HR leader need to master the art of communication?

My guest on this episode is Gabe Zichermann entrepreneur, public speaker, gamification expert, and author of “The A-HA! Method: Communicating Powerfully in a Time of Distraction”

During our conversation Gabe and I discuss:

• How the power of effective communication skills can help your career
• Why more is not better when it comes to communicating powerfully and effectively
• Why effective communication now requires a different skill set due to the daily distractions of technology
• How to create “AHA” moments in your presentations
• How gamification will help people develop the soft skills to be successful in the future of work
• Why friendships at work can be a foundation for high performance and employee engagement

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Learn more about Gabe’s speaking engagement, coaching, and books

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This week we are re-releasing one of our most popular episodes as our listeners have almost doubled in the past few months. The “Best of 2022” episode features the don’t miss moments from eleven HR executives and thought leaders…So, who can you expect to learn from on this episode?

• Ken Keener, former CHRO turned Executive Coach
• Holly Tyson, Chief People Officer at Cushman & Wakefield
• Marc Effron, President of Talent Strategy Group
• Molly Nagler, SVP & Chief Learning Officer, PepsiCo
• Angela Lane, VP Global Talent AbbVie
• Allen Church, former SVP Global Talent, PepsiCo
• Suzanne Myers, CHRO at Arcosa
• Jim Shanley, The Shanley Group
• James Fripp, Chief Equity, Inclusion, & Belonging Officer at Yum Brands
• Anne Gotte, VP Global Talent, General Mills
• Dr. Steven Hunt, Chief Work, Technology at SAP and author of Talent Tectonics

How can HR help leaders make better people decisions?

Why is expertise in work the next big capability for HR leaders?

My guest on this episode is Lucien Alziari, EVP and CHRO of Prudential Financial, Inc

During our conversation Lucien and I discuss:

• What he learned from an early career setback and how that has impacted his leadership style
• Why the fundamental role of HR is to help their business to win in the marketplace
• What qualities differentiate the best CHROs from their peers
• How HR can use “decision logic” to help leaders make better people decisions
• Why the next big capability of HR leaders will be expertise in work
• What many HR leaders are getting wrong when it comes to Generative AI

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How can you build a human-centered tech-enabled work culture?

Why should your talent strategy always come before your tech strategy?

My guest on this episode is Larry McAlister, three-time Head of HR and #1 International Best Selling Author of “The Power to Transform: A Field Guide to Building a Human-Centered, Tech-Enabled Work Culture”

During our conversation, Larry and I discuss:

• His advice on how to interview and select your future boss

• What HR leaders are getting wrong about HR technology

• How to build an HR tech strategy that aligns to your talent strategy

• His “1-2-3” model to enable managers to drive high performing teams

• The key elements of human-centered design

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Corporate Humanist Consultancy

Why is defining potential so difficult to do?

What are the three types of potential and when should you use them?

My guest on this episode is Allan Church, PhD, former SVP, Global Talent Management for PepsiCo.

During our conversation, Allan and I discuss the following:

• Why the job you think is the “worst” might actually be the “best” for you

• The three types of potential: why they matter and when to use them

• PepsiCo’s GREAT5 leadership model and how it applies at different stages of your career

• Why communicating potential ratings will increase, not decrease employee engagement

Books & Resources Discussed:

The High Potential's Advantage: Get Noticed, Impress Your Bosses, and Become a Top Leader by Jay Conger & Allan Church

Think Outside the 9 Box by Allan Church, PhD

Connecting with Allan:

Allan Church, PhD on LinkedIn

• How he made a mid career transition from operations to HR
• The workforce trends that are impacting healthcare organizations
• Why he believes that increasing productivity through technology is an imperative in the healthcare industry
• Why asking “how does this make someone feel” is the key to creating great employee experiences
• How talent acquisition drives the employee experience and can increase retention

How can a culture of inclusion enables high performance? Why is data so important to understanding and measuring inclusion?My guest on this episode Is Dane Holmes, CEO & Co-Founder, Eskalera and former head of Human Capital, Goldman SachsDuring our conversation, Dane and I discuss:

• Why he believes organizations need to invest more in their HR professionals

• How inclusion activates others to bring out their best performance

• The biggest mistakes organizations make when thinking about inclusion and belonging

• Why mutual value exchange is a difference maker in collecting actionable data from your workforce

• Why he believes the CHRO position is one of the most important roles in the C-Suite

Connecting with Dane:Dane Holmes on LinkedInEskalera - Employee Empowerment Software Built to Scale

How can you take a human-first approach to skills-based learning?

Why should you have a clear business case before implementing skills-based talent initiatives?

My guest on this episode is Christina Norris-Watts, Head of Assessment & People Practices at Johnson & Johnson

During our conversation Christina and I discuss:

• Why Christina says transitioning to a skills-based organization is like eating your brussels sprouts.
• The strategic approach Johnson & Johnson took to implement skills-based talent initiatives across the organization.
• How the J&J Credo shaped their distinctive “human-first” strategy for creating personalized learning and development paths.
• The way J&J's innovative learning platform successfully integrates the three E's: Experience, Exposure, and Education.
• Advice for HR leaders beginning their skills journey including where to start and challenges to avoid.

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How can you become a talent scout?

How do you develop a point of view on how you identify and assess talent?

My guest on this episode is Jim Shanley, The Shanley Group

During our conversation, Jim and I discuss the following:

• The seven leaders who influenced his talent philosophy and his leadership style

• Why the best leaders are talent scouts and how to become one

• The “five question test” he uses to make a hiring decision…and why it works every time

• How to go farther and faster in your HR career

What role does HR play in helping your company succeed in the marketplace?

Why should you take an “outside-in” approach to building your talent strategy?

My guest on this episode Is Dave Ulrich, Rensis Likert Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan and a partner at The RBL Group

During our conversation, Dave and I discuss:

• Why HR is not about HR

• Why your talent strategy needs to start with the one simple question

• Dave’s advice to next-gen HR leaders on how get promoted faster than your peers

• Why the expectations for HR are rising and how we can respond

• How the best leaders use data and their intuition to make decisions

Connecting with Dave:

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RBL Group - Building human capability that delivers business results.

Resources:

Financial Intelligence: A Manager’s Guide to Knowing What the Numbers Really Mean by Karen Berman & Joe Knight

Finance for Nonfinancial Managers, Second Edition by Gene Siciliano

How do managers create value and impact?

How do the best managers reduce friction and create capacity for their teams?

My guest on this episode is with with Dave Kline who teaches leaders the codified management playbook to build great teams & level up their career

During our conversation Dave and I discuss:

• Why he and his wife launched the management accelerator program and what makes it unique
• Why he believes that the role of a manager is to deliver impact and why he created the impact equation
• Why the best leaders focus on reducing friction and cycle time for their teams
• How new leaders can build trust with their teams by identifying and making a meaningful change on something that matters to them
• Why leaders who are afraid to give feedback in the moment often drop what he calls the “synthesis bomb” and it how it negatively impacts trust
• The six fears (rational and irrational) that stop leaders from delegating to their teams and how to overcome them

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What characteristics separate the best HR leaders from the rest? My guest on this episode is Paige Ross, Global Head of Human Resources at BlackstoneDuring our conversation Paige and I discuss:

• The importance of a “key question” and the role it can play in assessing talent and potential

• Why she went against her mentors advice in making a big career decision and how it paid off

• Why she believes you make better hiring decisions when candidates interview with more people, not less

• Why she believes HR leaders need to balance courage and humility

• The promise she makes to the senior leaders that she supports

• How she transitioned from an executive search leader to a Chief People Officer
• What she learned working for multinational companies as well as fast growing start-ups
• Why building people capability is so critical to the success of a business
• Why she believes LinkedIn has fundamentally impacted how people manage their careers
• Why learning that is educational and entertaining is more engaging and impactful

• How developing his expertise in executive coaching accelerated his career
• What he learned from being part of the team that established the Pine Street Leadership Group at Goldman Sachs
• His key learnings as he transitioned into a CHRO role at Jefferies
• His advice for early career HR professionals on how to be a success and stand out from the crowd
• Why he believes organizations must invest in developing their people’s skills for the future

How can you define success on your terms?

Why is it so important to invest and bet on yourself?

My guest on this episode is Sohee Jun, PhD, Leadership Coach, Bestselling Author, and Leadership Development Expert

During our conversation, Sohee and I discuss the following:

• Why she left her corporate leadership role and started her own business

• Why “Launch, Learn, and Iterate” should be your personal innovation philosophy

• How to master your inner game and define success on your terms

• How to manage up and why it matters for your career

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Sohee’s website

What does it mean to be an AI-powered organization?

How can AI help you to be a more strategic HR leader?

My guest on this episode is Prasad Setty, Lecturer, Stanford GSB, Advisor, Former VP at Google, People Ops and Workspace.

During our conversation Prasad and I discuss:

• How people analytics has evolved over the years and what’s next
• What it really means to become an AI-powered organization
• Why you should view AI as your thought partner, not as your replacement
• Real life examples of how AI is helping HR to deliver more value to their organizations
• Why the future of HR will center on scaling human judgment, not replacing it

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What differentiates the best HR leaders from the rest? Why it isn’t enough to “know the business, you must love the business

My guest on this episode is Marc Effron, President, Talent Strategy Group.

During our conversation, Marc and I discuss the following:

• Marc’s career journey and what led him to co-author One Page Talent Management

• The unforgettable advice that Marshall Goldsmith gave to Marc

• The one question that will help advance your career

• What differentiates the best HR leaders from the rest

Books & Resources Discussed:

7 Rules of Power: Surprising--But True--Advice on How to Get Things Done and Advance Your Career by Jeffrey Pfeffer

8 Steps to High Performance: Focus On What You Can Change (Ignore the Rest) by Marc Effron

One Page Talent Management: Eliminating Complexity, Adding Value by Marc Effron & Miriam Ort

Talent Management Institute

Talent Quarterly

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Talent Strategy Group

What makes a Talent Review successful?

Why is it important that your talent review be “action oriented” and deliver outcomes for the business

My guest on this episode is Anne Gotte, VP Global Talent, General Mills & Joe Garbus, EVP Global Head of Talent, PVH Corp.

During our conversation Anne, Joe, and I discuss:

• Why your talent review needs to be “smart and simple” and how to do it
• Why you should think of talent reviews as a diagnostic and planning tool
• Why talent reviews should focus on development, not just assessing performance and potential
• Why establishing consistent and shared definitions for evaluating and differentiating talent is critical to a successful talent review
• Why the best talent reviews are “action-orientated” and result in tangible plans, outcomes, and progress.

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What trends will have the most impact on the future of work?

How will AI impact both white collar and blue collar roles?

My guest on this episode is Kelly Monahan, Managing Director, Research Institute at Upwork

During our conversation Kelly and I discuss:

• The key trends that will impact the future of work over the next few years.
• Why leaders of the future must shift towards building trust and developing others.
• Why organizations need to shift from rewarding individuals to rewarding teams.
• Why AI will create a skill imbalance where it will create new jobs, but there will be a shortage of talent to fill these roles.
• Why the skills-based organization movement is stuck in the theory phase and the challenges it faces in implementation.

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What does it mean to connect talent to value?

How can you create “Click” for your most critical roles?

My guest on this episode is Sandy Ogg, Founder CEO.works & Hein Knaapen, Managing Partner, Europe, CEO.works

During our conversation Sandy, Hein, and I discuss:

• Why the best leaders focus on the fewest things that can make the biggest difference
• Why companies can’t just improve their way to success, instead they must always be transforming to win
• Why companies must look beyond the traditional hierarchy to identify the roles that create value
• Why focus and the conviction to say “no” are the keys to managing complexity
• How organizations can create “Click” by aligning the role, the work, and the right level of resources with the right talent

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Why do we need to rethink how we value and measure human capital?

How can HR influence the business to take a longer term view when making investments in their people?

My guest on this episode is Peter Cappelli Professor of Management at The Wharton School and Director of Wharton’s Center for Human Resources

During our conversation Peter and I discuss:

• Why people are the least important asset according to current financial accounting practices.
• The real reason companies do layoffs (hint: it is often not about cost savings).
• What HR leaders can do to better communicate the tangible and intangible costs of layoffs.
• Why hiring decisions are the most important decisions organizations make.
• Why companies complain about skills gaps and why a lack of skills is not really the problem.
• His advice for HR leaders on what they should be doing in 2024 and beyond.

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Learn more about Peter and his contributions to the field

Why should you treat your employees like you treat your customers?

Why should Chief People Officers think of themselves as Chief Performance Officers?

My guest on this episode is Francisco Sorrentino, Chief People Officer at DigitalBridge and I discuss how HR can drive performance and organizational effectiveness.

During our conversation Francisco and I discuss:

• Why you should treat your employees like you treat our customers
• Why working in an early stage start-up can drive exponential development and professional growth especially early in your career.
• What he has learned from working with early stage company founders and CEOs
• How he assess talent and determines if someone is a fit for a role or the organization

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How do you get certain in an uncertain world?

Why is seeking out variance in your life the key to personal and professional growth?

My guest on this episode is the one and only Dave Ulrich, Professor at the Ross School of Business, University of Michigan and a partner at The RBL Group

In our conversation, Dave opens up about his personal journey and shares insights that have guided his influential career as we discuss...

• How his parents' values shaped his view that work is an opportunity, not a burden
• Why a pivotal college course redirected him from law to a groundbreaking career in HR
• The importance of building on existing knowledge rather than reinventing HR concepts
• His personal motto "the best is yet to come" and how it drives continuous learning
• Why embracing variance in thinking leads to personal growth and innovation in HR practices

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How can skills power internal mobility and personalized development?

When it comes to recoding your culture, why is it important to measure both the “what” and the “how?”

My guests on this episode are Lucrecia Borgonovo, Chief Talent and Organizational Effectiveness Officer, Mastercard & Michael Lennartz, Executive Vice President, Total Rewards, Mastercard

During our conversation Lucrecia, Michael, and I discuss:

• The steps Mastercard took to evolve their culture and refresh their "Mastercard Way."
• How "The Mastercard Way" aligns the company’s strategic objectives to with employee behaviors.
• Why the "Mastercard Way" framework uses the power of three and measures on the “what” and the “how.”
• Why skills are the new currency for career progression at Mastercard.
• How Mastercard’s AI-driven talent marketplace is transforming internal mobility and personalized development.

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How can you be more innovative and stop relying on yesterday’s playbook?

Why is it important that you define the future of work for your organization, and your organization alone?

My guest on this episode Is Greg Till, Chief People Officer, Providence Health System

During our conversation, Greg and I discuss:

• Why he attributes his early career success to being “outcome” focused

• What he learned about leadership and culture during the pandemic

• Why he believes flexibility is the new engagement capital

• Why key demographic trends will only increase the war for talent in the future

• How asking questions like “why not” can drive innovation

How can you build a culture where employees feel valued and heard?

Why is acting on feedback critical to building trust and improving business performance?

My guest on this episode is Carolyn Roach, Chief Human Resources Officer, XPO

During our conversation Carolyn and I discuss:

• How XPO aligns its HR strategy to support and drive business strategy.
• Why XPO's approach to listening, actioning, building trust, and recognition creates a culture where employees feel valued and heard.
• How XPO translates employee feedback into concrete action plans, creating a culture where team members know their voices drive real organizational change.
• How XPO is leveraging communications and recognition to strengthen their company culture.
• Carolyn's advice to HR leaders whose organizations are undergoing transformational change.

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How can you balance the three roles of being an HR leader?

What does it mean to be a servant HR leader?

My guest on this episode is Angela Cheng-Cimini, CHRO, Board Director, AAPI Champion, & Keynote Speaker

During our conversation Angela and I discuss:

• How Angela transformed an experience early in her career into a lifelong leadership lesson.
• Why she believes the best HR leaders are technical experts, business focused and change agents.
• Her vision for "hyper-personalization" in employee experiences and how HR can practically implement this.
• Why she is passionate about paying it forward and helping others in their careers.

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How does your company create value for your customers?How can you develop a talent strategy that is future-proof?My guest on this episode is Vicki Walia, Ph.D & Head of HR Business Partners for the US Insurance and Retirement, Prudential FinancialDuring our conversation, Vicki and I discuss:

• Her advice for next generation HR leaders on how to stay relevant with their capabilities and in their careers

• How do develop a dynamic talent strategy for your organization

• Why people leaders are pivotal in the future of work

• How HR leaders can become more data-driven and data fluent

• How to use data to influence and guide business leaders to make decisions

How can HR advocate and support their front-line leaders?

Why is it a smart investment to develop your front-line leaders and team members?

My guest on this episode is Monica Rothgery, Friend of the Frontline Leader, Speaker and Author of “Lessons from the Drive-Thru.”

During our conversation Monica and I discuss:

• Monica's unique career journey at Yum Brands, progressing from restaurant manager to training leader to Chief Operating Officer for KFC in Thailand and the U.S.
• Her mission to help elevate, support, and develop front-line leaders across the world
• The importance of organizations developing management training programs that emphasize leadership, decision-making, and team empowerment
• The critical role of face-to-face training and mentorship for frontline leaders
• How HR leaders can ensure frontline leaders' voices are heard, even when they are not in the room.

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How is technology shifting employee expectations?

How will employee experience management impact the future of work?

My guest on this episode is Steven Hunt, PhD, Chief Expert, Work & Technology, SAP and author of Talent Tectonics

During our conversation, Steve and I discuss the following:

• How demographic shifts and technology is impacting the future of work

• Why employee experience is much more than just “engagement & retention”

• Why you need to assess your employee experience and how to do it

• Why people are a companies best asset when it comes to adapting to change

Resources:

Dr. Hunt’s new book: Talent Tectonics; click here to learn more

• Why differentiating your skills, a variety of experiences, and building deep relationships are critical to career success
• How and why I started the Future of HR podcast
• What I have learned after interviewing over 50+ HR leaders and experts in our field
• How CEOs can better leverage their HR leaders
• The key phrase that I believe will define the Future of HR

How can HR use people analytics insights to drive business results?

How will AI impact not only people analytics, but HR?

My guest on this episode is with Cole Napper, Vice President, People Analytics & Chief Evangelist, Orgnostic

During our conversation Cole and I discuss:

• Why people analytics is much more than just dashboards
• Why he believes people analytics is team sport
• What “organizational network analysis” is and how it can diagnose breakdowns in collaboration and communication within teams
• The potential value and use cases of Generative AI tools in HR
• How AI will impact the future of people analytics

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Check out his podcast “Directionally Correct” or subscribe to his Substack to read his articles

How do you learn to become more resilient?

What is the right and wrong way to think about setbacks in your career?

My guest on this episode is Suzanne Myers, CHRO at Arcosa

During our conversation, Suzanne and I discuss the following:

• How being a talent acquisition leader prepared her to become a CHRO

• Why your employer value propositions should have three layers

• How to be resilient and overcome career setbacks

• Why communication skills are the foundation for career success

How can you build a long term relationship with an executive recruiter?

What makes a candidate standout from the crowd?

My guest on this episode is Justin Hirsch, Chief Executive Officer and HR Executive Search Lead at JobPlex, a DHR company

During our conversation, Justin and I discuss the following:

• What makes a candidate standout from the crowd

• His advice on what to do if you think you are being ghosted by a recruiter

• How to build a long term relationship with an executive recruiter

• The number one source executive recruiters turn to to find talent (hint: it is not just LinkedIn)

• His favorite interview questions for candidates

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JobPlex, a DHR company

What do business leaders expect from their HR business partners? What four competencies do all successful leaders have in common?My guest on this episode is Jay Parker, Founder and CEO of Mentorforce and former President Dell, Personal Computing GroupDuring our conversation Jay and I discuss:

• What he learned from time as a senior executive at Dell and Lenovo

• The four competencies that all successful leaders have in common

• Why he started Mentorforce and his vision to rethink leadership development

• What he believes business leaders expect and want from their HR Business Partners

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What does it mean to have ethical AI?

How can you ensure your organization is balancing innovation and risk when using AI?

My guest on this episode is Reid Blackman, PhD, author of “Ethical Machines” and CEO and Founder, Virtue, a digital ethical risk consultancy

During our conversation Reid and I discuss:

• Why balancing innovation with ethical considerations is crucial for HR functions using AI in talent processes.
• How HR leaders can mitigate AI risks by properly vetting vendors and asking the right questions about bias detection and mitigation.
• The role of HR in communicating ethical AI practices and fostering a culture of trust and transparency.
• The importance of adopting appropriate metrics to measure bias and fairness in AI.
• Why HR leaders should not be intimidated by AI, but instead should learn AI to ensure it is implemented in an ethically and responsible way.

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Learn more about Reid, Ethical Machines, and his consulting firm, Virtue.

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Why is having the right mindset critical to career success?

How can you use obstacles to become stronger and more resilient?

My guest on this episode is Andy Storch, Consultant, Coach, Speaker, and Author, “Own Your Career Own Your Life.”

During our conversation Andy and I discuss:

• What capabilities make a great talent development professional
• The skills that will be the most valuable in the future and why
• Why next-gen HR leaders need to build relationships with people who are doing what they want to be doing in the future
• What he learned during his battle to overcome cancer
• Why asking the right questions is the key to breaking out of your comfort zone

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• Why technology changes over time are the biggest driver of generational differences
• What makes Gen Z different from other generations and what they want out of work
• Why today’s young adults are taking longer than ever before to achieve adult milestones
• How millennials entering the C-Suite are changing our organizations and how we work
• Why Gen Z values mental health and will expect organizations to value this as well

When it comes to culture change, why is it important to be thinking renovation and not transformation?

What role do influencers, energizers, and detractors play in culture change?

My guest on this episode is Kevin Oakes, CEO and Co-Founder of the Institute for Corporate Productivity (i4cp) and author of “Culture Renovation: 18 Leadership Actions to Build an Unshakeable Company”

During our conversation, Kevin and I discuss:

• Why defining “culture” is less important than taking action to change it

• Why he thinks every organization should have a “kill the company committee” and how it can drive innovation and culture change

• Why the first step in culture renovation is to deploy an effective listening strategy

• How to identify the influencers, energizers, and blockers that are critical to culture renovation

• How onboarding program designed to build relationships can supercharge your culture

• Why he believes more Chief People Officers will come from outside the function in the future

Connecting with Kevin and i4cp:

Kevin Oakes on LinkedIn

Institute for Corporate Productivity (i4cp)

Resources:

Culture Renovation: 18 Leadership Actions to Build an Unshakable Company

Hit Refresh by Santa Nadella

How can human-centered design improve your employee experience?

Why is wellness important in enabling high performance?

My guest on this episode is John Foster, ex-Hulu & IDEO, CHRO and Founder Gamut Labs

During our conversation, John and I discuss the following:

• Why HR leaders need to think like architects

• Why you should prototype your HR solutions

• The four key elements of human-centered design and how to apply them to your organization

• Why he believes wellness is the foundation for human performance

• His advice on maintaining wellness for HR professionals

Resources:

Gamut Labs: John’s platform to advise companies and build tools that help people learn and grow

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When it comes to Learning & Development, why are we so focused on new bright shiny objects?

How can you improve the Return on Investment from L&D initiatives?

My guest on this episode is Noah Rabinowitz, VP Talent Development at Commonwealth Fusion Systems and Brian Hackett, Founder, The Learning Forum

During our conversation Noah, Brian and I discuss:

• Why L&D needs to stop being driven by trends and start being driven by common standards
• How HR leaders need to rethink the “value of time” when it comes to investing in learning
• Why “skill surging” is an faster and better alternative to implementing a skills-based organization
• Why you should be refining, not reinventing your L&D governance model
• Noah’s advice to next-gen L&D leaders who want to increase their influence and impact

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What is your reputation and how it is impacting your career?

How can you be a positive networker, especially early in your career?

My guest on this episode is Angela Lane, VP Global Talent, AbbVie

During our conversation, Angela and I discuss the following:

• What Angela learned pivoting from a generalist into a specialist role

• Angela’s Career Edge model and how to leverage it for success

• How to manage your reputation to achieve your career goals

• How to network when you are early in your career

• How to give feedback and why it is an important skill for HR professionals

Books & Resources Discussed:

The Edge You Need - Angela Lane and Sergey Gorbatov’s excellent website that will help you get an edge in your career, performance, and culture

The Ten Behaviors of the “Positive Networker”

How do your establish and build key stakeholder relationships based on mutual trust and healthy candor?

What does successfully onboarding to a new CHRO or HR leadership role look like?

My guest on this episode is Jordana Kammerud, SVP & CHRO, Corning Incorporated

During our conversation Jordana and I discuss:

• Why she recommends taking risks and pursuing opportunities that stretch you in your early career
• Her advice for CHROs and HR leaders on how to successfully onboard into a new role
• Why CHROs need to ask their CEO’s for an “all-access pass.”
• The questions that CHROs and HR leaders should ask business leaders during the interview process to understand their perspectives on culture and people
• Why she believes generative AI can amplify the human experience and create more opportunities for diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging in the workplace

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How can you embrace an Agile HR mindset?

Why is Agile HR a better approach to delivering value than our traditional methodologies?

My guest on this episode is Riina Hellström, Founder, Agile HR Community

During our conversation Riina and I discuss:

• How Agile HR can revolutionizing HR's approach to value delivery
• How small-scale pilots before full rollouts leads to better HR solutions that actually stick.
• Why cross-functional teams are the secret sauce for transforming everything from onboarding to performance management.
• How co-creating HR programs with employees dramatically boosts both buy-in and results.
• How HR can shift from traditional metrics to product-focused KPIs that showcase real impact.

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• How organizations can accelerate the transition of new leaders into their roles
• How remote and hybrid work has impacted leadership transitions
• Why it is critical that new leaders come in with a “learning plan” and how to create one
• Why he believes “integration” is more important than “orientation”
• Why organization’s need to be more clear on who owns leadership transitions
• Why he believes that people can develop “strategic thinking” skills

How can you align your personal purpose with your values? 

Why is “putting people first” not only the right thing to do, but also a great business strategy?

My guest on this episode is Sara Kelly, Chief Partner Officer, Starbucks

During our conversation Sara and I discuss:

• How her “personal purpose”has served as her north star throughout her career
• Why she believes that putting people first is critical to business success
• Why she believes you should be open to new opportunities and the power of saying “yes.”
• How Starbucks co-created their new values with input from their partners
• Her advice to HR leaders who are updating their organization’s values
• Why co-creation and an effective listening strategy is helping them to evolve their industry leading benefit offerings

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How do you create a culture of bold innovation?

How can HR leaders develop their business acumen?

My guest on this episode is Ginger King, CHRO at Kohler Co.

During our conversation Ginger and I discuss:

• Why everyone should design their own "rotational program" early in their career to get a variety of experiences.
• Why HR leaders need to be able to articulate the business reasoning, purpose, and expected outcome for their initiatives.
• How next-gen HR leaders can develop and deepen their business acumen.
• Why a common purpose is the foundation for Kohler's culture of innovation and delighting the customer.
• How her experience as a P&L owner driving a turnaround influenced her leadership style and approach to HR.

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• Why he wishes more HR leaders would question if their current bonus plan is worth it
• Why he believes that the more transparent a company is about pay, the more formulaic their pay model tends to become
• The four elements of his “Fair Pay” model and how you can apply it in your organization
• His tips for negotiating a pay increase or a new job offer
• Why he believes it is not a good idea to share your salary expectations with a recruiter

How can you build a fit for purpose company?

Why should you get comfortable asking for help?

My guest on this episode is Lisa Chang, EVP & Chief People Officer, The Coca-Cola Company

During our conversation Lisa and I discuss:

• How asking for help is not a sign of weakness, but rather sign of strength.
• Why HR leaders must focus on creating value through talent and organizational capabilities.
• How Coca-Cola is embracing a “Head, Heart, Hand” strategy to optimize and deploy AI technologies.
• Why HR functions need to embrace the manta of “progress over perfection.”
• The concept of people sustainability and its importance for long-term organizational success.

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The “Best of 2022” episode features the don’t miss moments from eleven HR executives and thought leaders…

So, who can you expect to learn from on this episode?

• Ken Keener, former CHRO turned Executive Coach
• Holly Tyson, Chief People Officer at Cushman & Wakefield
• Marc Effron, President of Talent Strategy Group
• Molly Nagler, SVP & Chief Learning Officer, PepsiCo
• Angela Lane, VP Global Talent AbbVie
• Allen Church, former SVP Global Talent, PepsiCo
• Suzanne Myers, CHRO at Arcosa
• Jim Shanley, The Shanley Group
• James Fripp, Chief Equity, Inclusion, & Belonging Officer at Yum Brands
• Anne Gotte, VP Global Talent, Bumble
• Dr. Steven Hunt, Chief Work, Technology at SAP and author of Talent Tectonics

Why do the most successful HR leaders focus on adding value while reducing complexity?

My guest on this episode is Miriam Ort, EVP & CHRO at C&S Wholesale Grocers & SymboticDuring our conversation Miriam and I discuss:

• Why she believes every HR leader needs to assess their programs against the One Page Talent Management value - complexity curve
• How her time at PepsiCo helped prepare her to become a CHRO
• Why HR leaders are best positioned to help leaders diagnose and solve their most pressing business challenges
• The common pitfalls that can limit an HR leaders success
• Why power imbalances within the HR team cause dysfunction and how to fix it

What does it mean to be a coachable leader?

How can being a coachable leader future-proof your career? 

My guest on this episode is Kevin Wilde

During our conversation Kevin and I discuss:

• Why believes that “leaders teaching leaders” is critical to successful leadership development programs
• Why coachable leaders have a different mindset than less coachable leaders
• Why being coachable decreases as we age and advance in our careers
• How to overcome the seven faulty assumptions that low coachable leaders make 
• How Kevin’s “two question” technique helps leaders seek out feedback
• How to seek out and find a truth teller who can give you candid feedback
• What most people are doing wrong when receiving feedback and what you should do instead

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Learn more about the The Coachable Leader and Kevin’s research

What differentiates high performing teams from low performing teams?

How can you build highly effective teams that deliver results?

My guest on this episode Is Gordy Curphy, Leadership & Team Effectiveness Expert; Managing Partner at Curphy Leadership Solutions

During our conversation, Gordy and I discuss:

• Why team leaders are the biggest barriers to effective teamwork and what to do about it?

• Why only 20% of teams are high performing?

• Why most teams are “hybrids” that must have individual goals and collective goals?

• Why the teams with the best talent wins is a fact, not a myth

• How HR leaders can elevate their organization’s ability to building high performing teams?

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Article: On the Folly of Rewarding A While Hoping for B by Steve Kerr

How can your organization’s purpose drive culture change?

In evolving your culture, how can you honor the past while embracing the future?

My guest on this episode is Stacey Hoin, CHRO of Guardian Life who discusses why your company's purpose should be your north star and how it drives success.

During our conversation Stacey and I discuss:

• How Stacey's willingness to bet on herself shaped her career trajectory
• Why Guardian defined its purpose as "Inspiring Well-Being" and how it drives their success
• How Guardian invests in their customers' and colleagues' mental health and well-being
• How Guardian evolved its purpose, values, and leadership behaviors to honor its past while embracing its future
• Why empathy and compassion are core success factors for their colleagues' behavior

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• Why he believes learning spontaneous communication is like playing a team sport
• Why you should strive for mediocrity not perfection in your communications
• His two-step approach to overcoming your anxiety when you are asked to speak
• How to structure your spontaneous communications so they are clear, concise, and compelling.
• Why he views feedback as an invitation to problem solve
• How to give better feedback using his four I’s feedback model

What is the current state of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in our organizations?

My guest on this episode is Lybra Clemons, a C-Suite executive with experience leading talent, culture, and DEI initiatives across Fortune 500 companies and I go deep on the current state of DEI and how workplace expectations have shifted over the past few years.

During our conversation Lybra and I discuss:

• Why she believes you should constantly be growing as a professional and in your career.
• The evolving role of the Chief People Officer and why many former Chief Diversity Officers are transitioning into this position.
• Her perspective on the current state of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion in 2024 and beyond.
• Why investing in talent and developing leaders will be crucial for organizations in the next five years.
• How shifts in workplace expectations are redefining how people view work, their purpose, and how they think about work-life balance

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Why do organizations need to invest in their employees personal and professional development?

How can HR help identify the “enterprise skills” that are most critical to driving value?

My guest on this episode are the three authors of “The Talent-Fueled Enterprise - A Powerful Approach to Build Tomorrow’s Workforce” Mike Ohata, Eric Dingler, and Larry Durham.

During our conversation Mike, Larry, Eric, and I discuss:

• Why understanding your organization’s current skills needs and gaps is critical to driving success
• How success profiles can be used to identify key attributes, skills, and experiences necessary for roles at all levels
• Why organizations need to recognize and engage with employees as individuals to fully develop their potential
• The importance of identifying, assessing, and validating "enterprise skills" to build tomorrow's workforce
• How new technologies and skills marketplaces are challenging traditional HR hierarchies and structures

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Why is talent the ultimate value creator?

How can you unlock the capacity of your people and a high performance culture?

My guest on this episode is Chris Scalia, Chief Human Resources Officer, The Hershey Company

During our conversation Chris and I discuss:

• Why he believes talent is the ultimate value creator
• Why it is important that your organization have a strategic narrative that drives clarity and purpose for your workforce
• Why the most effective employee listening capabilities give team members a direct voice in shaping strategies and how the business operates
• Why he believes every high performing team is composed of visionaries, pragmatists, and geeks
• Why he believes a strong employee value proposition can build trust, increase organizational agility and foster inclusion.
• His advice for future CHROs on how to be successful in the role

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How can HR think more like the business leaders they support?

How can thinking outside the box be a game changer for your career?

My guest on this episode is Lisa Buckingham, former Chief People, Place & Brand Officer at Lincoln Financial Group

During our conversation, Lisa and I discuss:

• How owning functions outside of HR changed her approach to HR

• Why every CHRO should think of themselves as a Chief Talent Officer

• Why mentoring early career talent is so important

• Her advice for next-gen HR leaders on how to stand out from the crowd

• Her secret to influencing the business and making an impact

• The importance of HR leaders making their wellness and health a priority

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Why is it important to have a vision for your career?

How can can being intentional in building your network and personal branding accelerate your career?

My guests on this episode are Angela Lane, VP Global Talent, AbbVie and Sergey Gorbatov, Talent Executive, Professor, and Author

During our conversation Angela, Sergey, and I discuss:

• Why everyone should be a 'career visionary' with a clear understanding of success and the options to achieve it.
• Why the best networkers focus on building relationships and offering more value than they receive.
• Why “value creators” understand that the impact of their work is determined by how it's received by key stakeholders.
• Why being open to multiple career options can lead to more opportunities and job satisfaction.
• How to build your personal brand by understanding who you are, who your audience is, and intentionally telling your story.

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How can you master your mindset?

Why should you embrace and lean into the mantra “Do it Afraid”?

My guest on this episode is Sohee Jun, PhD, a premier leadership coach for successful women executives, a highly sought-after keynote speaker, leadership development expert and Amazon best-selling author

During our conversation, Sohee and I discuss the following:

• What she learned from researching successful women in their 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, 60’s, and 70’s
• Why having the right mindset is so powerful in overcoming challenges and achieving success
• How to build a “board of advocates” that will challenge and support you over the course of your career
• Why imposter syndrome impacts all of us and how to move past it
• What organizations can do to invest in and develop their female leaders
• Her advice for next-gen HR leaders who want to accelerate their career

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This is a very special episode in partnership with the Institute for Corporate Productivity, also known as i4cp where I had the opportunity to attend their annual “Next Practices Now Conference” in Scottsdale Arizona.

Over three days, 500 HR leaders came to Scottsdale, where they were treated to over 25 different presentations and key notes by thought leaders and HR practitioners

I was fortunate to be able sit down to interview seven of those amazing speakers and bring their insights to you.

So who are those amazing speakers….:

• Prasad Setty, Lecturer at Stanford Graduate School of Business & former VP, People Ops and Workspace, Google

• Charlene Li, Bestselling Author & Founder & CEO, Quantum Networks Group

• Diane Gherson, former IBM CHRO, Board member of Kraft Heinz, Centivo and TechWolf

• Monica Pool Knox, who is a 2x CHRO, HR Tech Advisor, Board Director

• Sal Falletta, Professor for Human Resource Leadership and Organizational Science, Drexel University and author of “Creepy Analytics: Avoid Crossing the Line and Establish Ethical HR Analytics for Smarter Workforce Decisions”

• Elliott Masie, Chair, MASIE Learning Foundation

• Kevin Oakes, CEO, i4cp

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What happens when you combine two of the best HR podcasts?

You are about to find out as the Modern People Leader podcast and the Future of HR podcast have come together for a special episode and to share their insights from over 270 interviews.

During our conversation Stephen, Daniel, and I discuss:

• The “Next-Gen HR Accelerator” program and why it is a game changer in developing next-gen HR leaders
• The “What, Who, & How” model of great HR leaders
• Why every HR leader should embrace a “Fail Fast, Learn, and Adapt” approach to their work
• The definition of a "modern people leader”
• The value of radical candor in HR and why it matters
• Why early-stage and start-up HR leaders need to move with agility and speedI

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How can OKRs increase transparency and drive performance?

What makes OKRs different than traditional goal setting?

My guests on this episode are Melissa Huntley, VP, Global Head of Talent Management, Visa & Aaron Monroe, Global Head Agile Center for Enablement, JPMorgan Chase & Co

During our conversation Melissa, Aaron, and I discuss:

• What OKRs are and what makes them different than traditional goal setting processes
• How OKRs increase transparency, collaboration, and agility in organizations
• How the quarterly goal setting in OKRs helps managers to be better people leaders
• Why OKRs can work for organizations of all sizes and complexity
• How performance management is integrated into the OKR process
• The role that HR leaders can play in implementing OKR processes into an organization

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The “Best of 2024” episode features sixteen don’t miss moments from HR executives and thought leaders...

So, who can you expect to learn from on this episode?

• Rhonda Morris, CHRO, Chevron
• Jeffrey Pfeffer, Professor Stanford University and Author of 16 books including the “7 Rules of Power
• Kerrie Peraino, Chief People Officer at Verily
• Kevin Wilde, Executive Leadership and Talent Development Expert & Author
• Kelly Monahan, Managing Director, Research Institute at Upwork
• Dave Ulrich, Bob Eichinger, and Allan Church
• Lybra Clemons, a C-Suite executive with experience leading talent, culture, and DEI
• Shaun Mayo, Chief People Officer, Arizona Cardinals Football Club
• Amy Kates, Organization Design Expert, Consultant, Educator, and Author of Five Books
• Kevin Cox, Founder and President of LKC Advisory & Anthony Nyberg, Director, Center for Executive Succession at University of South Carolina
• Jordana Kammerud, SVP & CHRO, Corning
• Lucien Alziari, EVP and CHRO of Prudential Financial, Inc
• Ginger King, CHRO, Kohler Co.
• Tim Richmond, EVP & Chief Human Resources Officer, AbbVie
• Stephanie Lilak, EVP & Chief People Officer, Mondelez International
• Prasad Setty, Lecturer, Stanford GSB, Advisor, Former VP at Google, People Ops and Workspace

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• The research that led to her classic book, “Up is Not the Only Way”
• Why she believes career development is the integrating force for all HR processes
• Why growing in your current role is underrated and often overlooked
• Why each of us should have six growth orientated career goals
• Why asking “what can I do to keep you” is the most powerful tool a manager has to retain their people

What is the science behind personality assessments?

How can personality assessments improve how you select, onboard, and develop talent in your organization?

My guests on this episode are Reece Akhtar, CEO and Co-Founder & Uri Ort, Co-Founder, Deeper Signals

During our conversation Reece, Uri, and I discuss:

• How certain personality factors can predict 30-40% of the variance in engagement scores
• How personality assessments can support onboarding, development, and career progression
• Why personality assessments should be one of several data points when making critical talent decisions
• How Generative AI will impact personality assessments in the future
• The four criteria you need to consider when selecting an assessment partner for your organization

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How do you know when a role is a wrong fit or a right fit for you?My guest on this episode is Andre’ Martin, Founder of Shift Space and author of “Wrong Fit, Right Fit - Why How We Work Matters More Than Ever”During our conversation Andre’ and I discuss:

• The three things that determine if a role is a right fit or a wrong fit

• Why we should be asking ourselves, does my current company appreciate who I am and how I work?

• Why you shouldn’t judge a company by it’s career page

• What he believes HR is getting wrong when it comes to the employee experience

• Why he believes a powerful career starts with understanding if you about the company, a craft, or a cause

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Why is transparency so important to building a culture of trust?How can HR enable a culture of transparency?My guest on this episode is Sam Hammock, EVP & CHRO at VerizonDuring our conversation Sam and I discuss:

• Why she believes you can build a career while being remote

• Her advice on how to be intentional with your networking

• The importance of transparency in building a culture of trust

• How Verizon is building transparency in their talent systems

• Why career conversations are the most important part of the performance management process

• The partnership that led to their classic book, “Beyond HR”
• Why HR needs to be a decision science
• Why making good decisions requires having the right mental model for the situation
• Why information is most valuable when it corrects decisions that if made would have been wrong
• Why HR should be using data to measure the quality of decisions that our line managers are making

How can we learn to work with intelligent machines and Generative AI?

Why is the human connection so critical to learning new skills?

My guest on this episode is Matt Beane, Assistant Professor, UCSB Technology Management Program, Digital Fellow at Stanford & MIT, and & Author of the new book, “The Skill Code.”

During our conversation Matt and I discuss:

• Why we are “sacrificing learning for productivity” with technology like Generative AI and robotics
• Why mentors, coaches, and apprenticeships are more important than ever before
• How challenge, complexity, and connection are critical to developing valuable skills
• Why organizations need to shift their mindset from “Skills + AI” to “Skills X AI”
• Why he believes that learning and development is the new number one function in every organization

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Learn more about “The Skill Code: How to Save Human Ability in the Age of Intelligent Machines”

Read Matt’s article: Learning & Development: the new #1 organizational function

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Why should HR take more calculated risks?

How can taking calculated risks increase HR’s impact?

My guest on this episode is with Rhonda Morris, Chief Human Resources Officer at Chevron

During our conversation Rhonda and I discuss:

• What she learned from her time owning a P&L and how it made her a better HR leader
• The importance of asking for help and not believing you have all the answers
• How she leverages her own personal board of directors to continue to learn and develop as a leader
• Why she believes HR needs to take more calculated risks
• The question every HR leader should ask before trying gain the buy-in of their business leaders
• Why HR leaders need to practice “other thinking” to increase their impact

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Hey Future of HR community,

I am could not be more excited to put out my first solo episode to make a big announcement....

What is the big announcement?….while I can’t give that away here, but I can give you a hint as the big news is about how I double down on the Future of HR’s mission of inspiring and developing the next-gen HR leaders.

After you listen...I would love to hear your thoughts and appreciate your support!

Thank you!

JP

PS - Go to FutureofHR.com for information on the big announcement and to learn more about the "Next-Gen HR Accelerator" program

How can you purposely create a culture of innovation?

What are the invisible barriers to innovation inside your organization?

My guest on this episode is Scott Anthony, Professor at Tuck, Senior Advisor at Innosight, & internationally recognized expert on navigating disruptive change

During our conversation Scott and I discuss:

• Why he defines innovation as something different that creates value.
• How HR leaders can purposely create a culture of innovation.
• Why organizations need to recognize and overcome their 'shadow strategy' that prioritizes the status quo over innovation.
• How to overcome organizational "ghosts" which are the invisible barriers to innovation such as past failures and ingrained behaviors.
• How to embrace disciplined experimentation to foster innovation and on going learning.

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• Why he believes the future of work is about culture and connection, not programs and policies
• Why he believes HR is becoming more of a business driver and less of a support function
• His perspective on the promise and challenge of becoming a skills based organization
• Why organizations need to invest in the leadership skills of their early career talent
• Why teams, not individuals are the new unit of value creation for organizations