FRIED. The Burnout Podcast (Cait Donovan)
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| 27 Dec 2020 | #straightfromcait: How Can Each Person Contribute To Ending Burnout Culture? | 00:09:32 | |
Fried fans, It’s the end of a hard year. Differently hard for different people, but hard all around. Hard because of uncertainty, hard because of constant change, hard because our brains which are accustomed to functioning on so much repetition and habit really got put through the ringer this year trying to keep up with all the change. And yet, here we are, at the end of 2020, with a vaccine on the horizon and talk that by the summer we’ll back able to function as we used to. And so we’ve started to question: Do we want to function like we used to? Burnout’s name flashed on all the stages this year as so many people were awakened to the fact that this year may have put them over the edge, but they had been burnt out for months, maybe years already.
We miss restaurants and going to stores without fear. We miss meeting our friends and gathering with our loved ones. But, we’re also grateful that 2020 gave us an excuse to hold boundaries, a reason to not meet up, an escape route from the girl’s nights that had gotten dull and the family gatherings that don’t fill you up like you feel they should. You didn’t have to go to that wedding you weren’t looking forward to and you didn’t have to participate in obligatory holiday parties and team building adventures.
So, the question comes up: do we want to function like we used to? Is there a way that we can shift our lives so that we are no longer contributing to burnout culture? Or, as a listener and former client put it, “Can you record something about how we all can help combat burnout culture?” Yes, yes I can. The fact that this question was asked was great from my perspective because it means that the burnout healing is well on it’s way - we cannot think about burnout culture on a large scale when we’re overwhelmed with burnout in our own lives, so my first reaction was to be happy that the question was even asked.
Then, I started to think about the answer. And here’s where you get to see into how my mind works. The first answer that came up is: don’t let another day go by without getting help for your own burnout. You are automatically contributing to burnout culture if you’re burnt out and not doing anything about it. That isn’t to make you feel bad, it’s literally not possible for you to focus on burnout culture if you’re burnt out. We’re talking facts here people - the first care is SELF CARE. If you’ve been around FRIED for awhile, you know that you can reach out to me for coaching, and you know that you can reach out to one of the many guests that have been on to share their stories who now do this work. Physicians can talk to Errin Weisman or Dr. Kara Pepper. Business owners can chat with Leah Steele, Tavona Denise, Sarah Dawn, Erin Elizabeth Wells or Kim Porter. The highly anxious and sensitive can contact Stacey Mitchell, Dr Valerie Rein or Cyrina Talbott.
And that’s not even close to a full list. The resources are there. Choose a method. Contact someone. Get the ball rolling.
The second answer that was reaching up from my guts was: Keep your boundaries clear, kind, and concise. Boundaries are so damn important and when you keep your own, you’re also helping the people around you keep theirs. Modeling good boundaries is a MAJOR key in ending burnout culture. When we’re on a rhythm of allowing our boundaries to be crossed, we end up expecting other people to do the same and then we end up resentful that we’re going the extra mile and they aren’t. We need to flip the script on this. Let other people’s boundaries inspire you to hold your own and when you’re asking someone to break their boundaries - look at the chain - did you break yours first, did the person before you break their own? Are we just continuing a never ending string of boundary breaking and resentment? Hold the line sister, someone’s got to close that gate. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 07 Aug 2022 | Rebecca Kase: EMDR for Healing Trauma, Self-Care Cakes, and Hope for the Future | 00:53:34 | |
Rebecca Kase is a licensed clinical social worker and expert in EMDR. She experienced her worst burnout when working with a nonprofit organization in community mental health. A combination of toxic authoritarian leadership, unsafe work environment, and clinically challenging patients was the perfect recipe for burnout. Rebecca started to fall into maladaptive coping behaviors and received signals from her body that it was time to change paths. She realized she could not fix the problems with the mental health system that she was part of and instead needed to find ways to help others that would also allow her to also better serve herself. Through a greater understanding of how the nervous system works and how to use EMDR as a biohack for healing from trauma, Rebecca has found a way to help others that still aligns with her own values. Tune into this episode to learn more. “I think of EMDR as kind of like Drano for the brain-o. Like an antacid for your nervous system,” shares Rebecca Kase when explaining how EMDR helps to clear away old, harmful memories, patterns, and feelings from where they have become stuck in the nervous system. EMDR or eye movement desensitization reprocessing is an evidence-based treatment approach that is the standard treatment for PTSD, but also helps with anxiety, chronic pain, depression, and a myriad of other conditions. EMDR uses bilateral stimulation through visual or auditory cues to cause a patient’s eyes to move back and forth in a way that is similar to how our eyes move during REM sleep. This helps patients to reprocess traumatic memories in a healthier way so that they can finally move forward and their nervous systems can get unstuck. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Rebecca Kase about using EMDR to heal from trauma. Learn more about the three different states of the nervous system, how neuroception works to keep us safe, and how sometimes the best self care is a box cake. Quotes · “One of my self care items is I make myself just a cheap box cake and I just go to town on it for about a day. So my husband always knows when he sees the self care cake. He's like, ‘Oh, that's where we are. We're calling out the big guns’.” (4:21-4:38 | Rebecca) · “My number one tip is reframe your burnout as a sign that your nervous system is working as it's supposed to and it’s not always something to fix, or mend, or self care gratitude journal away.” (6:27-6:39 | Rebecca) · “It's not meant to be like toxic positivity or spiritual bypassing, because it's not saying, ‘shits not on fire’, yes, shits on fire, and the birds are singing while it's burning down. It’s about being able to find the balance, the dialectic of life, that I think is really important and helpful when our neuroception is like, ‘danger, danger, danger’.” (13:38-13:58 | Rebecca) · “All of our strategies that we go to when we are out of that window of tolerance are all attempts to cope, whether they’re adaptive or not, everything you do throughout the day is an attempt to regulate yourself.” (20:46-20:57 | Rebecca) · “There's a shortage in the mental health community and in the medical profession. I see that as leverage. That is leverage. So therefore, you do not have to settle for some shitty deal that is not good for your wellness, your sanity, your body, your mind, heart, brain or your family.” (27:13-27:31 | Rebecca) Links Connect with Rebecca Kase: https://instagram.com/rebeccakase.co https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists?search=emdr XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 28 Jun 2020 | #straightfromcait: Sometimes, Feeling Like Shit Is The Only Option (and that's okay too) | 00:12:11 | |
In this week's #straightfromcait, I'm reading to you from my book, The Bouncebackability Factor. I think this passage is important for today because it is all about sitting in the muck when we feel like shit, not spiritually bypassing our problems, and not finding silver linings before it's too soon. Right now, amidst coronavirus and the very necessary renewed talks on racism, the energy is heavy - and before we try to shake it off, we need to allow it time to process. The passage that I read from the book this week should help you understand why. If you're stock full of resentments and you're stuck in them, I have a new tool for you! It's The Resentment Journal Mini-Course and it's a $27, 17-page fill in able pdf workbook for your emotional transformation pleasure.
It even got me an article in Forbes recently, so you know it's good stuff ;) You can grab your copy of the Resentment Journal here: https://www.caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal And, if you know you need more support than that, you can always book a free consult to find out how I can help :) https://www.caitdonovan.as.me/free My ears are ready for your story <3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 26 May 2024 | #friedguides: Why Am I So Clumsy and Injury Prone During Burnout? | 00:45:30 | |
Need to get started on your burnout recovery? Download the Core Values Worksheet today! https://bit.ly/corevaluesfreebie “When I’m stressed, I trip more, I bang into things more, I stub my toe more—so there’s definitely something going on here,” Cait shares, highlighting the curious link between burnout and clumsiness. In this latest "Fried Guide" episode, Sarah Vosen joins Cait to delve deeper into why burnout can make us more accident-prone and even lead to injuries. They discuss how stress can cause physical reactions like tensed neck muscles and narrowed peripheral vision, making us clumsier. According to Chinese medicine, unprocessed emotions can accumulate in the liver, decaying and poisoning our system. This toxic buildup, combined with neglecting our basic needs like rest and proper nutrition, leads to a depletion so severe that our bodies can't even benefit from healthy inputs. Sarah explains how ignoring our spiritual needs contributes to this misalignment, exacerbating our stress and physical discoordination. So, what’s the solution? Identifying a personal outlet—whether it’s exercise, journaling, or engaging in meaningful conversations—and approaching these activities with mindfulness and intention. Cait and Sarah share how they navigate their own emotional landscapes and manage their stress cycles, offering insights into finding balance in our complicated lives. Quotes
Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv | |||
| 16 Feb 2020 | Stacie Mitchell: High Functioning Anxiety and Burnout | 00:56:58 | |
Stacie Mitchell and I have a lot in common. We love dogs. We're both coaches. We're both obsessed with personal development. And we're both highly functioning anxious people. Stacie has made this the cornerstone of her coaching practice and talks us through her journey from burnout, to awareness of anxiety, to the coaching training that turned it all around for her. She credits great questions, great friends, a willingness to learn, her family and her mini Australian shepherd (who is the CUTEST - seriously, check out Stacie's IG for pics) with getting her to the place she is today. In this episode, Stacie talks us through a time that she had to back out of a commitment and how she did it - you'll want to listen to that part and I hope it will inspire you to take something off your plate this week! You can find Stacie HERE ENJOY and then REVIEW! Your feedback gives me happy tears! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 28 Feb 2021 | Catherine Peters: Can 26 Minutes of Shut Eye Save Us From Burnout? This Pro Napper Spills the Deets! | 00:53:51 | |
If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Episode summary: In this episode, guest Catherine Peters, a transformational life coach takes us through her learning-to-be-pro-nap journey. She dishes out the science behind why naps matter, what time of day is best, and how long the ideal nap is according to the researching nerds (we LOVE researching nerds!). On top of all of that, she’s created a Napping Workshop just for you! Sign up here: www.eventbrite.com/e/138106352819/?discount=burnout Keep your notebooks out for this one, you’ll want to write a few things down to help improve your relationship to the nap. Topics discussed in this episode: - Burning Out During A Passion Project [5:06] - A Cancer Diagnosis and a Lightbulb Moment Around Risk Factors [7:27] - Beginning the Journey To Perfect The Nap [13:56] - Get In Touch With Your Nap Story [23:18] - The Science Behind Shut Eye [27:10] - The Willpower Myth [31:00] - How And When To Nap [34:49] - Setting The Stage and Creating Your Nap Ritual & Nap Kit [42:13] - Safety and Napping [47:43] - Eye/Sleep Masks by La Lune Healing [50:27]
Find Catherine: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cpeterscoaching/ Catherine’s Website: https://www.cpeterscoaching.com Napping Workshop (MARCH 4th, 2021!) www.eventbrite.com/e/138106352819/?discount=burnout
Cait’s Yoga Nidra Meditation: https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/sfc-meditation-nervous-system
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| 25 Dec 2022 | BONUS: Introducing the Wellness While Walking Podcast with Carolyn Cohen | 00:32:00 | |
Today, Cait shares a podcast recommendation, an episode of Wellness While Walking Podcast, hosted by her friend Carolyn Cohen. Carolyn is a health coach that has designed her podcast as a way to inspire people to take the next step of their health journey. These episodes are 30 minutes long and are made to be listened to while taking a walk. There is even a handy beep at the halfway point in the episode to remind you to turn back around on your route. So, bundle up, put on some headphones, and take a stroll while learning wellness tips.
It may sound strange to think about wanting to increase stress, but there actually is good stress that can result in physical and mental health benefits. In the same way that too much of a good thing is bad and too much of a bad thing is still bad, there is a sweet spot somewhere in the middle for everything. People need a certain level of hormetic stressors to thrive. Hormetic stressors are intermittent stressors of a certain duration and strength that can have systemic benefits. Some examples of ways to increase hormetic stressors are through temperature like hot and cold therapies, intermittent fasting, and high intensity interval training. By increasing hormetic stress, you can have increased energy, improved health, and even slow the aging process.
Stress is not always a bad thing. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for an exciting podcast recommendation from Cait. Listen to hear an episode of Wellness While Walking Podcast hosted by Carolyn Cohen and learn about the ways certain stressors can actually be beneficial to your overall wellness.
Quotes • “Sometimes we need to stress our systems for growth. And I'm not just talking about stress as we think of it, I'm talking about things like when we eat, what we eat, how we move, and other daily activities in our day. So tweaking them might give us more energy, improved health, and even could help slow aging.” (2:16-2:36 | Carolyn) • “The fact that adversity can be good is also a concept that rings true within health.” (7:37-7:42 | Carolyn) • “Stressing ourselves in one way likely has benefits across all our systems. So we can find the one thing that works for us and our health situation and our lifestyle and then it can often have systemic benefits.” (24:16-24:27 | Carolyn) • “Biologically, the lack of acute stressors prevents the intermittent episodes of cellular “housecleaning” activities that slow aging. So we just have to keep in mind that taken to either extreme, the stressors are problematic, and so we need to be careful if we pursue any of these hormetic activities.” (25:29-25:48 | Carolyn) • “What I've always wanted to share here on the show is the question of nuance, just because a bit of something might be beneficial doesn't mean a whole lot better. And similarly, just because something is poison, or detrimental and extreme doesn't mean that the other extreme, there's none of this is optimal, either. There's nuance, there's dose to be considered. And sometimes that's not what we get from the headlines.” (27:00-27:22 | Carolyn)
Links Connect with Carolyn Cohen, Host of the Wellness While Walking Podcast https://wellnesswhilewalking.com/
XOXO, C
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| 21 Jun 2020 | Deepshikha Sairam: Non-Stop Sacrifice is Not The Secret To Success According to This Business Mentor. Find Out What Is... | 00:47:56 | |
Episode Description S02E11
In this episode we’re talking to Deepshikha Sairam, a Business Mentor and Lead Generation Expert for female entrepreneurs who want to grow and scale a profitable online business with high quality consistent leads and recurring revenue, organically.
In this episode Deepshikha shares her story of leaving the corporate world to start her own business, leveraging her skills and talents to build a winning company, which was earning six figures by its second year and how she kept it all going and growing with two young children. In fact, this feat so intrigued the award-winning show, Marie TV, that they had to run a feature on Deepshikha! She also reveals how she was burning herself out to keep all the plates spinning, working continuously and ended up in the ER more than once!
She talks about spirituality in business, how she incorporated rest in her work for even greater profits and why she values self care for herself and her clients.
In addition to offering one-on-one consulting and online group programs, Deepshikha has also guest lectured at Elephant Journal Academy teaching Instagram Marketing. She has been featured in Tiny Buddha and Elephant Journal. She lives in New Jersey with her husband and two boys.
You can Connect with Deepshikha below https://socialiquegroupe.lpages.co/consistent-organic-leads/ https://www.instagram.com/deepshikhasairam/ https://www.facebook.com/socialique/
XOXO C
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P.P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free.
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| 19 Jun 2022 | #straightfromcait: How To Tell People About Your Burnout | 00:28:36 | |
There comes a time when you may need to tell the people in your life about your burnout. Certain people like your HR department or your spouse will need to know in explicit detail in order to support your recovery to the best of their abilities. Others like co-workers or clients may not need to know as many details, but still need to know how it will impact them. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains how to approach these conversations differently depending on whether you are speaking at work, at home, or with friends. The first step you need to take before initiating any conversations about your burnout is to make some decisions and collect data points. When speaking with clients, you should first figure out your answers to certain key questions they are sure to have such as whether you will be shifting a deadline, if you are stopping a project, and if you’re planning to refer them out. If you work for a company, you will need to talk to your HR department and should have a script in mind that clearly explains the symptoms burnout is causing you and what you need from your employer in terms of recovery. When speaking with your partner or spouse, it is important to be as honest as possible to help them understand how burnout is impacting you and how things might need to change at home. Making a plan and collecting data will help you to have clear, factual conversations with the people in your life about your burnout and their reactions to your requests will provide you with additional data about your environment. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how to tell other people about your burnout. Learn what to say in specific situations at work, at home, and with friends so that you can get the support you need for recovery. Quotes • “Before you have any conversations, you need to collect your data points and you need to make some decisions. This has to happen first.” (2:33-2:43 | Cait) • “If you know you're burnt out and you definitely need some time away, you might go to your HR professional and say, ‘Listen, I feel like I'm experiencing burnout. These are some of my symptoms. I'm unable to be as productive as I used to be at work, I'm completely disengaged. What I think I might need is XYZ. But I am not sure what the company offers as far as burnout recovery support. So I am here to find out what the possibilities are, and how we can set this up so that the company stays solid and gets everything it needs and I still get the time that I need to recover’.” (7:11-7:46 | Cait) • “Giving people the opportunity to also use their voice because you've used yours, I think is really important.” (11:03-11:10 | Cait) • “If you don't know what you need, it might be time to get a coach.” (13:54-13:58 | Cait) • “Your burnout is going to be difficult for your partner. It’s going to be difficult for them to understand, it's going to be difficult for them to deal with. And they are likely to get irritated now and again that they are pulling extra weight. And I need you as much as you're granting grace for yourself in the recovery process, I need you to also grant grace to your partner and your family members who will need to adjust things for you.” (15:14-15:40 | Cait) • “Just because you prep doesn't mean it will go well. But prepping will help you to feel solid and more neutral within the conversations. Because you're speaking about facts, and not necessarily about emotions.” (26:09-26:22 | Cait) Links https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast https://caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah https://caitdonovan.as.me/free XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 10 Nov 2024 | Cait Donovan: The Rule of Thirds - Why Burnout Recovery Isn’t About Feeling Great All the Time | 00:11:55 | |
“I want you to give yourself permission to live in this rule of thirds,” says host Cait Donovan, borrowing a concept that Olympic runner Alexi Pappas recently shared online. Alexi's coach told her that anything you're doing right will feel a combination of good, bad and just neutral. Cait explains how this applies to burnout recovery, and how to incorporate it into your own life. She also discusses fourth grade teacher Ryan Brazil's viral clip which explains that we are not obligated to blindly follow our first and, perhaps, most impulsive thoughts. Instead, we have the power to adhere to or act upon any one of the many successive thoughts that align more with who we want to be. Cait shares a story from her own life where she chose to place emphasis on her second thought of compassion over her first thought of judgement. Quotes
Links Alexi Pappas: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKndqq0CsRc Ryan Brazil: https://www.instagram.com/mrs.brazil_28/reel/C_MRG4vSh4g/ Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm | |||
| 17 Sep 2023 | #straightfromsarahandcait: Wildfires, Burnout, and Getting the Help You Need | 00:21:35 | |
Burnout is the feeling of exhaustion physically and mentally from the problems you have in everyday life. Similar to wildfires, where everything is burned out to ash. However, life is a cycle of death and rebirth, which is critical in keeping the balance in the world. With the right resources, we can return to life beautiful and stronger. Our speaker today, Sarah Vosen, a burnout recovery coach at FRIED, explains the relation of wildfires to being burned out, why you should honor the cycle in life, and how Sarah can help in your burnout recovery journey. Tune in to learn more! Episode Highlights: Sarah discusses the similarities between burnout and wildfires. Just like wildfires, where everything is burned, fall, decay, and turn into ash, being burned out will feel like our life is falling apart. However, a burned forest will go through a rebirth cycle, and everything will return beautifully. Similarly, experiencing burnout will allow us to be reborn, and with the right resources, we can come back to life. Sarah highlights the importance of honoring the cycle in life. We don’t need to be burned completely to have a renewal; we just need to realize that life is constantly changing, and resting is necessary to balance our work. We need to stop forcing ourselves to be the same every day. Slow down and give some time and space to process your emotions, set boundaries, and know the most important things in your life. Burnout is normal, so just acknowledge your problems or difficulties and pay attention to control them. Recognize that you have the ability to control it, heal, and recover to become stronger. Connect with Sarah Vosen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahvosenlac/ https://www.instagram.com/sarah.vosen/ https://www.facebook.com/sarah.vosen Book a call to start your burnout recovery together with Sarah: https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah
Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com https://caitdonovan.com Book a free 1:1 call: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried
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| 18 Aug 2024 | #FRIEDguides: Irrational Fears Are a Sign of Depletion: The Chinese Medicine that Explains Fear During Burnout | 00:23:03 | |
“Irrational fear is just a sign of depletion,” said Sarah Vosen in a recent conversation with co-host Cait Donovan. This profound insight became the foundation for today’s episode. According to Chinese medicine, the paralyzing anxiety that often accompanies burnout—leaving you disconnected from yourself and others, doubting your intuition, and retreating from the world—stems from a depletion of energy in the kidney system. Citing the book “Rooted in Spirit: The Heart of Chinese Medicine,” Cait explains that when the heart and kidney systems fail to connect and communicate, it leads to insecurity, hesitation, and a loss of perspective on life’s possibilities. So, what can we do about it? Since fear is a physical symptom of a deeper issue, the solution lies in the physical realm. Sarah and Cait discuss dietary changes, exercise, and environmental adjustments that can help restore kidney energy. They also delve into a specific visualization technique and even suggest the best fashion choices to support this healing process. Join the conversation to discover the surprising and common physical signs that may be linked to the kidney’s energetic system, along with a specific exercise that could bring you the relief you’ve been seeking. Ready to leave burnout behind for good? Join UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start reclaiming your energy and joy. Apply today! https://bit.ly/unfryapplyQuotes
Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Burnout doesn’t have to be your story. Apply to UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start your journey toward lasting recovery. Spots are limited—apply now! https://bit.ly/unfryapply | |||
| 11 Apr 2021 | Dr. Nan Nuessle: Systemic Bullying, Burnout, and Using Communication That Values Speaker and Listener | 00:53:46 | |
Dr. Nan Nuessle first realized she was burnt out when she stopped at a stop sign and waited for it to turn green. She didn't even process what she was waiting for until the truck behind her honked. At the time, Dr. Nan was working up to 110 hours per week, chairing the Department of Pediatrics at both a large, multidisciplinary clinic AND a nearby hospital, and raising two children with a husband who wasn't pulling his weight. After realizing how burnt out she had become, Dr. Nan approached the Chief Medical Officer at her clinic and expressed her concerns...only to be told, "Well, what are you going to do about it?" Despite the incredible amount of hours and effort Dr. Nan was putting into her job, she still met with backlash when she sought some basic support.
After this experience, Dr. Nan became a locum physician or traveling physician. This new role helped relieve some of the stress that had been suffocating her in previous positions, since she didn’t feel the same crushing responsibility to keep her employer happy at her own expense. However, throughout her travels, Dr. Nan began to realize how rampant bullying was in the healthcare world. Disguised as “politics,” physicians everywhere were bullied back into line if they ever defied the demands of their administration. This inspired Dr. Nan to begin combating bullying at the organizational level. She founded her own company, Beat Down Burnout, which works to address bullying and burnout from a standpoint of communication, so everyone at a given workplace can feel like a valued member of their team.
Tune into this week’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast to learn more about how Dr. Nan works to reduce bullying in the workplace using the B.A.N.K. system of Personality Science. We discuss working with narcissists, the benefits and uses of meditation, and how to incorporate the principles of conflict resolution into all of your relationships, so you can meet people where they are.
Quotes • “I first realized I was burnt out when I was driving home post-call, and I stopped at a four-way stop, and I waited for the sign to turn green.” (1:26-1:35) • “I went in to speak with the Chief Medical Officer at the clinic and told him, ‘I think I’m burnt out.’ And he looked at me and said, ‘Well, what are you gonna do about it?’” (2:21-2:29) • “With this training, I have learned a lot of tools to protect myself. I have learned to do what we call ‘be the cloud.’ So when somebody wants to be a narcissist, you learn to just let it flow through you and go on and be able to do your work. You have to learn at what point you just can’t. But that’s probably 25% [of the time] not 80%.” (38:10-38:39) • “Once you’ve been bullied, you become highly sensitive about it. And you sometimes need to know where to go to rebuild your strength, to rebuild your walls, to get the tools to get back to normal. And that’s hard.” (40:33-40:54) • “The Hawaiians have an attitude about the guy that cuts you off in traffic. They say, ‘If you don’t let at least two people in on your way to work and at least two people in on your way home, you’re not driving with aloha.’” (43:35-43:47)
Links Dr. Nan’s website: https://BeatDownBurnout.com Dr. Nan’s Instagram: https://instagram.com/beat_down_burnout Dr. Nan’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nanette-nuessle-md-351b9116/ Crack your code: https://CrackMyCode.com/Beat-Burnout
XOXO, C
If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait
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| 14 May 2023 | Rebecca Kase: Polyvagal Informed EMDR: A Neuro-informed Approach to Healing | 00:56:24 | |
Rebecca Kase is the Owner of Rebecca Kase & CO, LLC as well as a licensed clinical social worker and author of Polyvagal Informed EMDR: A Neuro Informed Approach To Healing. You may remember her burnout story from a previous episode of FRIED. Rebecca began studying polyvagal theory at the start of the pandemic and is now an EMDR consultant and trainer. Today, she discusses the science behind polyvagal theory, how EMDR works, and how to use neuroception for healing the stress responses of the autonomic nervous system.
Polyvagal theory was developed by a researcher who was studying the heart rate changes in NICU infants in response to both safety and stress. This study was a breakthrough in seeing how stressors impact the autonomic nervous system. The symptoms of burnout all come from the autonomic nervous system. When you’re experiencing burnout, you may think that your nervous system is out to get you, but in reality it is just doing what it has adapted to do to–keep you alive. When you experience trauma or toxic stress, those memories can get stuck in your autonomic nervous system and cause physical symptoms every time the memory is triggered. EMDR can be used to unstick those memories and remove the stress response.
Toxic stress, or stress that continues for a long time and overwhelms your abilities to cope, can lead to a slew of serious and chronic health issues. When you take the time to befriend your autonomic nervous system and retrain it to recognize safety cues, you can reduce unwanted stress responses. Quotes • “The symptoms of burnout are all held within your autonomic nervous system.” (8:41-8:45 | Rebecca) • “Toxic stress is really about those experiences that overwhelm your capacity to cope with and often, not always, have a pretty big dose.” (14:49-15:00 | Rebecca) • “These circuits are all adaptive. They're not your enemy. They have worked, or you wouldn't be here.” (23:48-23:54 | Rebecca) • “There's a humongous, overwhelming correlation to toxic stress and degenerative diseases.” (34:27-34:34 | Rebecca) • “You don't just think about your memories, you feel your memories.” (41:35-41:38 | Rebecca) • “When we can consciously appraise neuroception, we can increase the autonomic nervous system’s awareness of safety.” (50:14-50:21 | Rebecca)
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| 08 Sep 2019 | Leah Steele: End Burnout While You're Still Working | 00:52:34 | |
Leah Steele's specialty is bringing you back from burnout while you're still in the situation that burnt you out in the first place. By teaching resilience, stress management with a dose of humor and a few swear words, Leah shows us what's really possible and how to create a life you love while living the life you have. She focuses on Imposter Syndrome and overwhelm and is a wizard at getting your to do list down to manageable. Show Notes: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/leah-steele Leah's Resilience Academy: https://www.searchingforserenity.co.uk/theresilienceacademy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 19 Jul 2020 | Whitney Goodman, LMFT: A Therapist Bares All About Dealing With The Underlying Beliefs That Lead Us To Overperform | 00:50:49 | |
In today’s episode, we’re talking to Whitney Goodman, a licensed marriage and family therapist and owner of The Collaborative Counselling Center in Miami, FL. She provides counseling to individuals and couples who want better relationships and to heal from the hurt in their past. During our conversation, she shares her own burnout story, that happened really early on in her life and career and how she felt like a failure being a mental health professional herself. After being told “you’re too young to be burnt out”, she decided to leave her job and go out on her own, quickly realizing that burnout was happening because of the structural inequities at her job and the lack of support in her own life and not because she chose the wrong profession. We also talk about toxic positivity and why you need to avoid it (despite what social media is telling you), people pleasing and the good, the bad and the ugly of boundaries! I truly enjoyed speaking with Whitney and this episode is chock full of so much goodness, that I’m curious: What is one thing that you KNOW you need to start implementing in your life? Both Whitney and I would love to know, so please share and tag us on social media so we can support and cheer for you!
Connect with Cait Website: www.caitdonovan.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast/ Pre-Order My Book: https://bit.ly/bouncebackorder/ Connect with Whitney Website: https://www.thecollaborativecounselingcenter.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sitwithwhit/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CollaborativeCounselingMiami/ Courses: https://sitwithwhit.mykajabi.com/store/ Xo Cait P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 27 Oct 2019 | Sarah Dawn: Discovering Self-Worth and Self-Love to Conquer Burnout | 00:43:35 | |
Sarah started this podcast off strong by going straight to the heart of what burnout is for so many of us - the hard work and stress that causes burnout is derived from an inner belief that we are not enough, we are not valuable unless we work really hard and prove ourselves. So, we run ourselves into the ground trying to prove our worth. Sarah Dawn is a business-lifestyle coach that has built $1mm+ businesses both in burnout mode and not. She guides clients through designing their businesses to work FOR them rather than burn them out. Show Notes: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/sarah-dawn
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| 14 Jun 2020 | #straightfromcait: What Your Burnout Is Trying To Tell You | 00:15:04 | |
You asked: What is my burnout trying to tell me? And I answered in this week's #straightfromcait episode! Within this episode you'll hear my real feelings about 'everything happens for a reason' and you'll hear all 7 reasons you burn out that made it into The Bouncebackability Factor, the book I wrote for you due out late this summer/early fall! Values exercise mentioned in this episode you can grab here: https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values When you're ready to take a giant leap toward ending your burnout cycle, you can book your free consult here: bit.ly/callcait Talk soon! XOXO C Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 24 Nov 2024 | #FRIEDguides: Why High Achievers Burn Out: The Dark Side of Success-Driven Mindsets | 00:33:00 | |
“It’s praised in our culture to have a bold, clear, big vision for the kind of impact you want to make in the world and in your life, but what’s not talked about is, ‘Is it realistic?” says Sarah Vosen as she joins Cait Donovan to co-host this latest episode of FRIEDguides. Today, the two discuss why high achievers tend to be the first to burn out. It has to do with unrealistic expectations–both for their achievements and their capacity to achieve. As a result, high achievers continue to expend more energy than they receive in return, and–being so doggedly ambitious--don't stop, even when they’re on the verge of breaking down. Many high achievers are people who are operating from trauma and wounding, perpetually chasing a dangling carrot of success in order to feel worthy. Today, Sarah and Cait discuss the common signs of energy depletion, how we can manage them and start restoring our input. Join Cait and Sarah to learn more about savior complexes, controlling people through indebtedness, and the hidden hazards of having high kitchen counter tops. Quotes
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| 07 May 2023 | Shelley Kemmerer: Dealing with Parental Burnout | 00:54:26 | |
Shelley Kemmerer is a parent, a board certified physician assistant and the founder of Run Tell Mom, LLC. During her clinical year to become a physician’s assistant, Shelley became pregnant. She chose to keep her pregnancy a secret, even while enduring constant sickness. Her child was born right as she was taking her boards and afterward she threw herself into work, extending her hours so that she could work fewer days. This very quickly led Shelley right into the dual role collision of the responsibilities of being a mother and working outside the home. Today, Shelley discusses parental burnout, burnout prevention as family planning, and her own advice for already burnt out mothers and expectant parents.
Mom burnout is incredibly common, especially in places like the United States where there is no federally mandated parental leave for working mothers. When moms experience parental burnout it differs from the experience of workplace burnout in that it involves a sense of detachment from one’s own child and a feeling of ineffectiveness as a parent. For those already at that stage, reaching out to an integrated care team can be a great help. If you’re not quite at that stage yet, but are looking to prevent burnout, it is important to analyze how your time is being used, reassign household tasks, and prioritize your own self investment.
Juggling the responsibilities of parenthood and work can lead to a lot of physical and mental exhaustion. Before hitting the tipping point, lean into self strategy and figure out what you can do to regain more time for yourself throughout your day.
Quotes • “You're asking people to take care of other people, but not taking care of yourself.” (11:12-11:15 | Shelley) • “What I would love is if burnout prevention was considered a real component of family planning.” (20:30-20:37 | Shelley) • “There's a lot to be said about burnout prevention or burnout strategies. Instead of saying self care, I'm talking about the self strategy of how to clean things up and lean into what is most necessary for myself right now.” (33:31-33:46 | Shelley) • “Prior to that boiling point, you need to start thinking about your time and how much of it is consumed with all the tasks and responsibilities that you have throughout the day, in comparison to the time that you have to rest.” (36:33-36:48 | Shelley)
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XOXO, C
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| 01 Nov 2020 | #straightfromcait: As 'THE BOSS' are you shouldering more responsibility than you should? | 00:10:54 | |
Hey Fried Fans,
This week’s #straightfromcait episode is the answer to a fan question (I love those, so if you have one that YOU want answered, shoot me an email at cait@caitdonovan.com with the subject: FAN QUESTION and I’ll get to it, it usually takes me about a month to get the episode out and it’s so much fun for me to give you exactly what you need. Here’s the Q: So, the holidays are coming up and if you’re the boss of a department it’s kinda expected that everyone else can take vacation time around the holidays but not you, because someone has to be on deck. So this means, year after year, you work the week of Thanksgiving and the week of Xmas. How do you juggle the expectation that if you’re the boss, your needs come second to your subordinate without getting burnt? OK, my friend. Let’s break this down a little. First, we need to look at the assumptions in this Q. You state: it’s ‘kinda expected’ that everyone else can take vacation time around the holidays but not you. Is this 100% true or is this a story that you told yourself because you took the responsibility on because YOU learned at some point in your life that this is how you think it ‘should’ be (if you missed the episode on shoulding, head back a few weeks and listen in, it’s a good one). You start juggling this expectation by checking yourself. Use these Q’s: Where did this expectation come from? Why do you believe it? What actions have you taken as the boss in previous years that may lead you to believe this is true? What actions have you taken as the boss in previous years that may lead your team to believe that this is true? The basic facts of the matter are this: your needs DON’T come second to your team’s needs. But now, you’re going to have to change the rules of the game on them and you’ll have to expect some blowback. Here’s how it goes: First, you need to decide on a new system. Are you going to rotate the holidays within your team, so one person takes thanksgiving and the other xmas? Is one person going to get the whole year of holidays and then the next 2 or 3 years off (depending on the size of your team) or is there a better solution that you see? I can’t tell you what all the options are without knowing more specifics about the business and the team, but suffice it to say, there’s a better system than leaving all the responsibility eggs in the leaders basket. Second, you need to decide how to present the new system - WITHOUT EMOTION and WITHOUT MENTIONING that you’ve done it in the past for years and years and now you need a break. YOU’RE THE BOSS - you make the rules. Turning yourself into a victim for working the past years will make whoever gets this year’s holidays feel like THEY are the victim. So, it might sound something like this: Hi Everyone, The holidays are coming up and the system for who works the holidays is changing this year. We are going to start rotating who works the week of Thanksgiving and Xmas so that everyone has the opportunity to take real time off during the holidays. This Thanksgiving will be (team member a) and Xmas will be (team member b). If you need to switch with each other, that’s no problem - just be sure that the communication is clear and the person who will be responsible for those days is available. If you’re going to make any changes amongst each other, please let me know by the end of next week. Thank you! :) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 11 Sep 2022 | #straighfromcait: Is Crashing During Burnout Recovery Normal? | 00:09:26 | |
During the process of burnout recovery, you are likely to overdo it and cause yourself to feel fatigued. This is perfectly natural as you are re-learning how to interact with your environment, relationships, and your body in a healthier way. As you explore these boundaries to your own energy, you will slowly start to recognize them more and more and be able to better understand your body’s signals. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains how to handle the frustration that comes with feeling fatigued and how to test the limits of your energy. Recovery is not only about resting, but also about re-learning how to interact with the world around you in a way that does not leave you totally drained. It is inevitable that you will end up bumping into these boundaries many times along your recovery journey and this can cause problems if you allow frustration to be your main take away. Instead, look at these instances as learning opportunities for you to collect data on how your body works. The more times you bump into those boundaries, the more you will start to recognize them and understand the messages your body is trying to send you. Being in burnout recovery does not mean that you will never experience fatigue or overwhelm again. It is completely normal to find yourself hitting the limits of your energy at times. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about learning how to be more in tune with the energy within your body. Learn how to turn frustration into curiosity, so that you can ultimately benefit from feeling those invisible boundaries. Quotes · “In the beginning of recovery, you will need to try to find your boundaries when it comes to energy. This means that sometimes you're going to overdo it and that will help you learn what overdoing it feels like in this recovery state. You'll have to bump up against boundaries to know where they are.” (2:10-2:28 | Cait) · “Part of burnout recovery is resting and understanding that your body actually needs that rest. But part of burnout recovery is relearning how to interact with the world in a way that will not drain you so much.” (3:43-3:56 | Cait) · “You might not be able to feel anything or describe anything right away, but with practice, you'll start noticing some clues that were previously hidden that you can now use to help yourself.” (5:42-5:55 | Cait) · “The more time you spend bumping up against these invisible boundaries to your energy, the more fluent you will become in the language of energy in your own body.” (6:18-6:31 | Cait) · “Recovery is not just about rest. It's about relearning how to interact with your environment, with your life, with yourself, with your friends, with your relationships. It requires upgrading and in order to upgrade, we need to know where our baseline is. And in order to know where the baseline is, we need to be paying attention to it. So bump up against those boundaries. You aren't really starting over, you're just learning.” (7:48-8:20 | Cait) XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcas, https://caitdonovan.com/speaking https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 16 Jun 2024 | Aria Johnson: Uncovering the True You During Burnout Recovery | 00:52:02 | |
Need to get started on your burnout recovery? Download the Core Values Worksheet today! https://www.caitdonovan.com/freebie-values “The self-abuse—that we don’t even realize we’re doing—is so glorified in this society.” Aria Johnson, a TV personality and celebrity voice coach, is best known for appearing as the music expert in the hit Reelz series “Beverly Hills Pawn.” Though this was ostensibly a reality show, Aria was ultimately playing a character—not unlike countless people who cast themselves as characters in their own realities, and like Aria they end up burned out emotionally and even physically. There is a particular pressure on women, she says, to portray a manufactured image based on impossible standards and to overachieve in all aspects of life. As Cait points out, this is why so many burnout sufferers think they are self-aware when they are merely character-aware. On today’s FRIED episode, Aria, now a motivational speaker and host of the “Behind the Glitz” podcast, talks about the central feeling of “not enough-ness” from which so many of us–even the rich and famous–operate. She explains how she learned to view self-care as a necessity rather than a luxury, one that has nothing to do with bubble baths or bro science. She and Cait discuss the importance not just of asking for help but of asking in the way that’s most beneficial and productive for all involved, and why in order to gain peace, you must forfeit perfectionism and control. Quotes
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| 04 Sep 2022 | Martha Bodyfelt: Use Your Empowered Voice To Recover From Burnout | 00:55:02 | |
Martha Bodyfelt is a divorce recovery coach with an extensive military background. She spent decades suffering from burnout after enlisting in the military at 23, dealing with immigration difficulties for her Iranian now-ex husband, and experiencing secondary PTSD from handling the internal allegations of sexual harassment and assault made by fellow female military personnel. After a terrible training accident where she injured her spine so badly that it was a miracle she was not paralyzed, Martha was medically discharged from the army and moved to DC where she took on a job as a defense contractor. Her own burnout combined with that of her then-husband resulted in divorce, because they both knew they would be unable to heal if they stayed together. After the divorce, she took time away from work to travel around Asia and try to reset herself. However, when she returned she found herself back in the same stressful work environment in DC and realized something drastic had to change. She quit her job and spent time working on herself in therapy and ultimately decided to lean into her side hustle, divorce coaching. Now she has helped thousands of women empower themselves and prides herself in giving a voice back to the women that are often ignored or silenced by society. “You always have options. Your career will sometimes gaslight you into thinking that you don’t, but you do,” shares Martha Bodyfelt. In order to embrace burnout recovery, it is important to put yourself in an abundance mindset; because if you remain in a scarcity mindset, you will be resistant to change. Working a job that treats you poorly and causes both your relationships and health to suffer is just going to do more damage the longer you stay. You have permission to create an exit strategy and to get out of that toxic situation, whether it is a job or a relationship, and to start living for yourself. Women are often disempowered in the workplace and in their relationships, because of societal pressures to always behave a certain way. In order to heal from burnout, you must put yourself first and reclaim your voice. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Martha Bodyfelt about life after divorce, toxic workplaces, and saying goodbye to the “good girl” mentality. Quotes · “The divorce coaching and the dating coaching was calling to me, but there's that ego because I want to make that money and it might be a while before I recoup that. And so working with energy work and with human design folks, and things like that, and even my therapist saying, your body's gonna let you know when the time is ready. And I was like, Well, I don't know what that means, though. But in one fucking weekend, I started having that PTSD and anxiety attack. And I'm like, well, it's ready.” (17:40-18:11 | Martha) · “I think the best advice I can give is, no job is going to love you back.” (23:16-23:23 | Martha) · “Think about putting yourself in abundance and not scarcity and understanding that you always have options. Your career will sometimes gaslight you into thinking that you don’t, but you do. And that's the same with relationships, too.” (28:51-29:05 | Martha) · “You have the right and, at this point, the responsibility to get to the fucking point and let people know what you want. Because nobody's here to save you. Nobody but you is going to advocate for you.” (41:32-41:50 | Martha) Links Connect with Martha Bodyfelt: Website | https://marthabodyfelt.com/ Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/marthabodyfelt/ LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/coach-martha-b-306516215/ Schedule time with Martha | https://marthabodyfelt.com/schedule XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 04 Aug 2019 | Teri Hofford: Love Yourself, Love Your Body, and Change Your View of Success to Beat Burnout | 00:43:06 | |
Teri Hofford is an inspirational speaker, empowerment photographer and body image activist based out of Winnipeg, Manitoba. After having been at both ends of the weight spectrum herself, Teri realized that achieving the "perfect" body was not the answer, but rather, finding contentment with the size and shape that one is at in the present is the key to feeling complete and confident. From this, Teri created an empowerment empire, which includes her photography business Teri Hofford Photography, BODY IMAGE BOOTCAMP (™), and everyBODIES Education, 3 resources which help women and photographers overcome their body image issues, so they can shift their focus from changing their bodies, to changing the world. Book a free consult call with Cait: Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 03 Nov 2019 | Kim Porter: Shed Old Identities And Emerge From Burnout | 00:43:58 | |
After a threatened miscarriage, instead of listening to the whispers, Kim Porter doubled down and went for it in her business because of the fear that if she slowed down and let go of what she had built, none of what she had done until that point would have had value. Can’t you just feel that in your gut? The need to stick with a job, a career, a relationship because you’ve invested in it already, because it's part of your identity? “I was so busy striving for goals I didn't know how to stop. Meditation, setting my intentions, and journaling all helped me get back to my center again.” Kim Porter Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 04 Dec 2022 | Zenica Chatman: How to Recover From Workplace Bullying that Leads to Burnout | 01:05:30 | |
SPONSORS Zenica Chatman is a life coach with a professional background in journalism and communications. While working as a communication strategist in what she initially excitedly thought of as her dream job, Zenica became the victim of workplace bullying by her manager. She felt like she was really crushing it at work, and yet her manager found ways to make even her strengths seem like a bad thing. She was continually put down and told that she was the weakest team member regardless of her attempts to make improvements. Looking back at her performance evaluations and skills assessments, Zenica soon realized that there was no factual basis for any of the bullying she received about her job performance. After doing some research, Zenica learned that 30% of American workers report being the victim of workplace bullying.
“The new job did not heal me from the trauma that I experienced in the old job. That same person who didn't have any confidence, who was taking an hour to send simple emails, she went right on into that next job. And so there was a lot of inner work that I had to do in order to get back to the person that's talking to you today,” shares Zenica Chatman, life coach. If you are being bullied at work, you are at a higher risk of burnout. Between working harder to try to stay ahead of the criticism, stress over being talked down to, and the fear surrounding the possibility of needing to change jobs, there are a lot of factors that tend to pile up and cause burnout. Workplace bullying destroys confidence and often does not have a satisfying resolution from the company. It is important to learn how to move forward and heal from workplace bullying in order to succeed at your next job.
Workplace bullying is unfortunately a common experience, even with remote workers. Bullies often convince you to believe lies about yourself, so it is important to stay clear on the facts. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Zenica Chatman about how to recover from workplace bullying, so that it does not lead to burnout.
Quotes · “I was in an environment where even my strengths now are being used against me.” (8:07-8:11 | Zenica) · “That was the summer that George Floyd was murdered. And so it sparked this whole conversation in the workplace about diversity, equity, and inclusion. And I was in all of these different social media groups and on all these different chats, and I was hearing the stories of other women of color, mostly black women, who were having identical situations to me. And that was very scary to me, that these women that I didn't know in different states in different industries, we're all describing exactly the same scenario. And that just prompted me to say, is this a thing? Is workplace bullying a thing? Is that real, did I make that up? And come to find out, no, I didn't make it up. Actually, 30% of American workers report being bullied.” (8:42-9:32 | Zenica) · “I think particularly when you're a woman in the workplace, and when you're a person of color, you know when you're being mistreated, but we all will start to lie to ourselves because we don't want to be that person. We don't want to be that person of color that says, ‘I think I'm being discriminated against,’ for whatever reason.” (14:39-14:56 | Zenica) · “The new job did not heal me from the trauma that I experienced in the old job. That same person who didn't have any confidence, who was taking an hour to send simple emails, she went right on into that next job. And so there was a lot of inner work that I had to do in order to get back to the person that's talking to you today.” (24:05-24:29 | Zenica) · “Once I saw on that StrengthsFinder that what they said was not true in black and white. They said I wasn't a good communicator, but my actual assessment says that I was. Went back through old assessments, communication was always at the top and never, ever, ever not been a great communicator. And I started to say, what other lies did they try to put in your spirit that are not true? And so I started to peel back all the lies and I got very clear about what was true.” (29:49-30:18 | Zenica) · “Those environments have a way of making you believe things about yourself that are not true. So what's the lie that your environment has tried to put on you that is absolutely not true? And then replace it with the actual truth.” (30:53-31:07 | Zenica) · “Usually, HR is not going to help you. So you have to learn how to validate the experience for yourself so that you can move forward without resolution from the company.” (31:56-32:09 | Zenica) · “Why am I going to kill myself for a job that if I die tomorrow, they won't even trouble themselves to call my mother and send her a card? Because now I have clarity on what is important to me, and I don't feel like I'm sacrificing anything when I set boundaries for myself.” (56:10-56:37 | Zenica)
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XOXO, C
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| 14 Feb 2023 | BONUS: FRIED Burnout Recovery Group Coaching with Sarah Vosen starts Feb 19th! | 00:39:55 | |
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| 16 Aug 2020 | Nicole Liloia: Teaches Us How to Use Laziness To Heal from Burnout and Earn More Money (while Watching Dawson's Creek) with Cait Donovan | 00:50:22 | |
In today’s episode, I’m speaking with Nicole Liloia, a therapist and business strategist who helps women entrepreneurs build bigger businesses and create consistent income growth by helping them create multiple income streams. Her system allows her clients the freedom to work less, while still making more money. Nicole got her Masters in Social Work from Columbia University, loves Taco Tuesdays and Apothic wine.
Nicole talks about her experience living on a small salary in the Big Apple and how that contributes to burnout, her love for travel and how that inspired her to bust through the limiting ideas of running her own business, affiliate marketing and of course, Dawson’s Creek (that’s why you’re here, isn’t it?)! We discussed how we can often suffer from burnout but call it laziness and be ruthlessly hard on ourselves and how it actually takes time to recover, it’s not a flip of a switch for anyone. Stay till the end, because Nicole also shares some easy tips on affiliate marketing and how you can get started today, even if you have a job or don’t have a business. Plus, ways you can start saving on autopilot and guarantee a more secure future for yourself!
I truly enjoyed speaking with Nicole and love that she actually lives so close to me and both of us would love to know what resonated the most with you from today’s episode and would you like to listen to an episode dedicated to finances and burnout? Send me a message on Instagram and I cannot wait to hear from you!
Connect with Cait Website: www.caitdonovan.com Cait on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cait_donovan Fried on Instagram: www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast Pre-Order My Book: https://bit.ly/bouncebackorder Connect with Nicole Website:https://www.nicoleliloia.com Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/nicoleliloia Grab your Freebie here https://www.nicoleliloia.com/multiple-income-streams
Xo Cait
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| 04 Jul 2021 | Jade Connolly Duggan: Stay With Your Senses, Get Objective, And Reconnect Your Awareness With Your Body’s Intuitive Dial – Right Now and Every Day | 00:58:32 | |
“I don’t want to hear anything about the theoretical translation of an ancient Chinese concept translated half-assed into English translated half-assed through your Western construct of what the hell it means,” says Jade Connolly Duggan, Corporate Culture and Wellness Expert. The daughter of two acupuncturists, Jade has had the practice of acupuncture flowing through her veins practically since birth. However, she explains that most of the time finding mind-body wellness is much more about consciously conversing with your body than it is about theory or predetermined labels. While theory has its benefits, it often fails to tell the complete story.
A high-school dropout who helped the NSA communicate more effectively with the CIA and saved Pepsi’s culture-merge when purchasing Gatorade, Jade is an expert in teaching soft skills to business and community teams. After hitting and overcoming burnout multiple times in her life, Jade has made it her mission to help others reconnect with their body’s intuitive dial, so they can lead more fulfilling and attuned lives.
Tune into this week’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Jade about learning to listen to what your body is telling you. Learn why perfection is the enemy of done, why English is incredibly barren when it comes to descriptors of sensation, and why getting curious about your mind and your body is an excellent way to overcome your burnout.
Quotes • “I was single parenting my first child, I was living on my own, and I was working and commuting and not living near family support. And I remember thinking to myself, ‘If I don’t get some help soon, I’m gonna die.’ And I was in the hospital with meningitis within two weeks.” (3:16-3:36) • “It was very humbling to be an acupuncturist, to be in acupuncture school, to be in a family of acupuncturists and to have this sense of not knowing how to mitigate or navigate my burnout.” (8:16-8:30) • “I recognize that there are things that I can experience in another language that I can’t experience in English. It’s a body, right? My language invents the body I get to inhabit.” (37:00-37:12) • “How do we get these physicians who run a big portion of all of the medical schools together in their board to look at that chasm between each other and see if they can close that gap and get a little bit closer to maybe I can know a little bit more, but only if I can actually have more language around it, if I can listen a little bit closer, if I can actually get close enough to have the poetry of your existence in my own body in some way?” (42:06-42:42) • “Part of the work for me is moment by moment to go, ‘There is no right.’” (48:53-48:56) • “Is this what you’re actually experiencing or is it what you read in a book? Is it what you think you’re supposed to be experiencing? Is it a ‘should’ from somewhere else?...If I didn’t have the label of burnout, or I didn’t have the label of anger, or if I didn’t have the label of depression, or whatever it was, what’s the experience that I’m having right now and when does that experience change even just a little tiny bit?” (57:00-57:32)
Links https://www.mindbodyleadership.com/ https://www.instagram.com/nsfwleadership/ https://www.facebook.com/nsfwleadership/ https://www.mindbodyleadership.com/offers/YaoELLJB/checkout (Code: CURIOSITY)
XOXO, C
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| 28 Aug 2022 | #straightfromsarah: Guided Meditation for Grounding, Filling up, and Protection | 00:18:15 | |
Guided meditation is a great way to center yourself by reconnecting with your body and the Earth around you. Meditation provides a safe space for your body to heal and replenish itself while keeping your mind clear enough for you to receive messages from your heart. In this week’s #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED Burnout Coach Sarah Vosen guides listeners through a meditation for grounding, filling up the body with energy, and creating a protected space. Often burnout occurs after a long period of ignoring the messages being sent by your body. When you slow down and meditate, those messages can actually come through and provide clarity on situations where you may have otherwise struggled. Meditation does not require you to have perfect posture or to measure your inhales and exhales. It is best to get into whatever is the most comfortable position for you. Really listen to what feels right for your body and go with it. Use your inhales and exhales to bring the nourishing energy from the Earth into your body and to release the negative energies that are no longer serving your interests. When your mind is quiet and you have created a sphere of protection around yourself, then is the best time to ask yourself any question that you need direction on. Listen for the answer from your body, from your heart, instead of from your mind. It may not sound like a conventional answer, so be open to receiving answers that may seem illogical or that may appear in sounds or pictures in your brain rather than clear thoughts or words. Meditation is a great method for reconnecting with yourself, because it can be done from anywhere and requires no tools. Tune into this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to experience a guided meditation and learn how to use meditation on your healing journey. Quotes · “The best way to do this meditation is however you will be the most comfortable in whatever position provides you with relief in this moment.” (2:05-2:13 | Sarah) · “If you have a question that's been spinning around or a decision that you need to make, answering it from this meditation space is often much easier. Because we're not being bombarded with other people's shoulds and energy. We can just ask ourselves the question and we can just listen for the answer. See if you can listen for the answer to just arrive from your heart, from your body, rather than from your mind.” (13:43-14:14 | Sarah) · “Sometimes, when we get answers from our body, from our heart, the answers come in pictures, or colors, or sounds rather than words.” (14:50-15:00 | Sarah) · “Trust that what you get is correct for you.” (15:19-15:21 | Sarah) Links https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 24 Apr 2022 | #straightfromcaitandsarah: Healing the Healers, Hyper-Independence, and Rules for Helping | 00:53:09 | |
Are you a healer that struggles with asking for help? When you’re used to wearing all the hats and doing everything yourself, it can be really difficult to realize when you need to reach out. In this week’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode, Cait and FRIED Burnout coach Sarah Vosen talk about how to recognize hyper-independence and how to ask for what you need. Highly sensitive people have a strong pull toward helping others, but often neglect themselves. If you try to do everything yourself, you run the risk of heading straight for burnout. Healers are so used to taking care of everyone else and never asking others for similar help. It can be uncomfortable to release that control and ask for help or to recognize when it is time to hire someone so you can take off some of those hats. When you find yourself feeling resentment toward responsibilities in your life, it is important to evaluate those feelings. If something you are doing causes resentment, it may be possible to stop doing that thing or to delegate it to someone else. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode for a conversation about healing the healers, recognizing hyper-independence, and asking for help. Learn how to evaluate your needs and set healthy boundaries. Quotes • “It’s totally acceptable and okay to know things as well as you know them today and then learn something new tomorrow and have that be truer or newer or updated information.” (8:42-8:55 | Cait) • “I do think that highly sensitive folks tend to want to help and I think that’s because of the heightened empathy that people tend to feel.” (11:20-11:30 | Sarah) • “I had big aspirations and this desire, but I didn’t recognize that I didn’t have what it took. I set myself up for failure with these huge expectations, but I never actually looked and asked myself, is this realistic?” (16:06-16:22 | Sarah) • “I really don’t believe that you can keep yourself out of burnout long term if you’re not really clear on what success means to you.” (17:02-17:14 | Cait) • “I wasn’t recognizing that investing in someone would be a benefit. I was just seeing it as a loss. But also, I always felt like I couldn’t ever work enough to really get my head above water. I think it’s kind of the way I’m wired. I can’t see that many people. I give a lot, I want to spend time with people. And I wasn’t charging enough for what I was giving to make it work. So I was charging the same amount as an acupuncturist who would just throw needles in and leave, but I was doing massage, I was doing acupuncture, coaching them, giving a lot of attention and lifestyle suggestions and all sorts of things. But I wasn’t charging accordingly. I was doing all the admin, the insurance billing. I was cleaning. I don’t know, all the things. All the hats.” (20:35-21:30 | Sarah) • “Something gave me the idea early on in life that I will not get what I want. So I shouldn’t even ask. Shouldn’t even try.” (21:53-22:04 | Sarah) • “If you find out you have resentment about something, the first question is, does this thing actually need to be done at all?” (32:40-32:48 | Cait) Links https://caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 24 Oct 2021 | #straightfromcait: How to Start Your Burnout Recovery | 00:09:27 | |
One of the most frequently asked questions I get from clients and in the FRIED. Facebook Group is: “But, how do I start my burnout recovery?” When you are absolutely mentally and physically depleted, figuring out where or how to start feeling better is daunting to say the least. You know you want to get better, but you might not feel like you have it in you to try.
First off, I want to say congratulations! Recognizing that you are burnt out and ready to start feeling better is a massive step. Now that you’re in that head space, I have created a series of resources for you to make the start of your recovery journey as simple and straightforward as possible.
• First, you’ll want to go to your doctor for a FULL physical examination. I’m talking blood work, a urine analysis… all of it. This will help you identify, correct and/or rule out any physical reasons for your fatigue right off the bat. • Next, you’ll want to take my Resentment Journal Mini Course. Unfortunately, you can’t just will away resentments by “thinking positive.” Instead, you’ll need to begin where you are and transform those resentments into boundaries and spare energy. • Lastly, you can uncover your core values with my free resource, linked below. This will help you identify what you love and care about most, so you can stop carrying or holding onto things that don’t meaningfully serve you.
And, of course, you can always reach out for support at any stage of this process. Whether it’s joining one of my free weekly calls or contacting another wellness professional you feel might benefit your recovery journey, there is someone out there who is just waiting to support you. You can do this!
Quotes • “I gathered a really easy beginning series of steps for you to take that will help you carve out a path towards recovery without you having to do too much thinking.” (01:42-01:54) • “It is so important for you to realize that as soon as you are able to name the problem, as soon as you realize that what you are going through is burnout, your recovery started. That awareness is so crucial.” (02:21-02:36) • “By watching your resentments, you’ll be able to find some tasks and some behaviors that you can get rid of, probably without talking to anyone else or doing anything else. You’ll just be able to stop doing some things.” (04:25-04:37) • “When you are in the muck, you’ve got to meet yourself in the muck.” (05:53-05:57)
Links https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values https://caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal https://www.caitdonovan.com/blog/10-burnout-professionals
XOXO, C
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| 11 Feb 2024 | The Cure for Burnout (New Book Release!) | 00:50:00 | |
Today, I have a special guest who will share her amazing story of overcoming burnout. She is Emily Ballesteros, a resilience advocate with a background in industrial organizational psychology. She has transformed her own experience of prolonged exhaustion into a powerful journey. She will reveal the insights and solutions she discovered along the way, culminating in her upcoming book, "The Cure for Burnout," set to launch on February 13, 2024. Fried fam, get ready for an inspiring conversation with Emily about resilience and the path to overcoming burnout. Episode Highlights: In this insightful episode, Emily dives into the dynamics of internal and external validation, urging listeners to prioritize internal fulfillment over societal expectations. She shared practical advice on crafting a high-quality life, emphasizing the significance of personal values in decision-making. Experimentation takes center stage as a tool for personal growth, challenging the fear of making the "right" choices. The episode explores burnout recovery, assuring listeners that the tools gained during recovery serve as a safeguard against complete regression. The concept of burnout by boredom is introduced, highlighting the need for novelty and variety in life to prevent chronic disengagement. The hosts discuss finding balance between external and internal perspectives, especially when facing discomfort or dissatisfaction. Connect with Emily Ballesteros: https://www.emilyballesteros.com/ https://www.instagram.com/emilybruth/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/emily-ballesteros Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com Book an Initial Session with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried | |||
| 24 Sep 2023 | Kristen Holmes: Stay Ahead of Your Health with Whoop | 00:49:44 | |
In this world full of stress and a toxic environment, getting a hold of your health and staying physically and mentally fit is challenging. But worry not, as there are ways to stay ahead of your health. In this episode, I have an exciting discussion with Kristen Holmes, the vice president and principal scientist at Whoop. Kristen shares how Whoop, a physiological monitoring device, can help you track your body’s data, take action accordingly, and ultimately have control over your health. She also talks about why heart rate variability matters, workplace resilience, sleep consistency, real burnout prevention, difference of stress and anxiety, and more!
Episode Highlights: Kristen focuses on aligning your mind and body– in other words, having extreme awareness of your body is crucial to taking control of your health. She also explains the usage of technology and how we can utilize it to get optimal data to work and take the needed actions for our bodies.
Kristen shares tips and tricks to aid in increasing stress resilience, sleep consistency, and managing stress, such as aligning our circadian rhythm, time-restricted eating, viewing sunlight, breathwork, and regular body movement throughout the day.
Listening to this episode will encourage you to take action and start your health and wellness journey. Don’t wait for your body to suffer. Instead, focus on taking preventive measures. It’s not too late; with discipline and perseverance, you can achieve your goal. Everyone deserves to live better, healthily, and joyfully–free of too much stress and burnout. LINKS TO FRIED EPISODES ON TRAUMA AND COPING MECHANISMS: https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/straightfromcait-how-childhood-trauma-is-related-to-burnout-even-if-you-think-you-have-none https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/straightfromcait-coping-mechanisms-and-burnout-the-good-the-bad-and-the-ugly
Connect with Kristen Holmes: https://www.instagram.com/kristen_holmes2126/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristen-holmes/
Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com Book a free 1:1 call: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried
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| 30 Oct 2019 | Cait Donovan: The Host of FRIED Shares Her Burnout Story | 01:08:46 | |
This is it. Nathalie Norris, nutritionist and all-around superstar asked Cait if she could reverse interview her for FRIED, and Cait agreed. Here, you get the background story, Cait's burnout story, her methods for keeping it at bay these days and her plans for her business in 2020. If you've been curious about what got Cait where she is, this is the one you've been waiting for.... show notes at: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/cait-donovan Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 05 Jun 2022 | #straightfromsarah: Knowing and Accepting Yourself Makes Burnout Recovery Faster | 00:11:14 | |
Do you feel like you’re not actually suited for the role you are trying to fill in your life? That role might not be the ideal one for you! In this week’s #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED Burnout Coach Sarah Vosen talks about ways to get to know yourself better and how to apply what you learn to help lead a more fulfilling and more burnout-proof life. When Sarah realized she wasn’t thriving in her chosen profession, she could not understand why at first. However, once she started taking some personality quizzes and really looking seriously at the results, it became very clear that the type of person she was and the type of career she had chosen were not perfectly compatible. She’d struggled her entire life trying to fit in and be like everyone else, but her personality types showed that she was unique and one of the rarer types of people on the planet. When we learn more about ourselves, we can make sure we are spending our time and energy appropriately instead of trying to fill roles we were never meant to fill. Tune into this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to learn more about different personality quizzes and why it is important that your personality type be compatible with your lifestyle and career choices. Quotes • “I was not meant to be doing life like most people, but I had been pushing myself as hard as I could to keep up and work hard like the masses. And when I sat down and looked at all of these quiz results and descriptions, and looked at what truly resonated for me, I realized that I am not like most. My personality traits make me one of the less common members of humanity. I am on the fringe. No wonder I don't tend to want to do or buy the same things as most nor can I handle the same kind of schedule.” (4:25-4:54 | Sarah) • “I couldn't see as many patients as my other acupuncturist and massage therapist friends. I found out later that those friends were indeed a different type than I am. They are generators or manifesting generators, which means that they are folks that are wired for getting more work done. I was trying to be someone I wasn't, and it felt terrible.” (5:22-5:38 | Sarah) • “In order to recover from burnout I needed to accept my role, the one that utilizes my strengths. The one that I'm wired for. The one that my constitution is suited for.” (6:12-6:22 | Sarah) • “The more we know ourselves, we gain clarity around what to take on and how to spend our time and energy. This helps us say no to what isn't ours and let the rest go. This is crucial in burnout recovery.” (7:53-8:06 | Sarah) • “You don’t have to be everything to everyone. You just have to be you. And do the role that you’re already good at. If that sounds relieving to you, please give yourself permission to let go of offering everything that isn’t yours.” (10:21-10:35 | Sarah) Links Our quiz: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/61d4455460a67b0018a4c902 Sarah: https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah-connect Cait: https://caitdonovan.as.me/free Links to personality quizzes: Myers-Briggs: https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test Enneagram: https://personalitypath.com/free-enneagram-personality-test/ Chinese 5 Elements: https://learnthefiveelements.com/5-elements-quiz/ Human Design: https://www.jovianarchive.com/get_your_chart Ayurvedic Dosha: https://kripalu.org/content/whats-your-dosha Highly Sensitivity: https://hsperson.com/test/highly-sensitive-test/ Astrological Sign: https://chart.chaninicholas.com XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 03 Jul 2022 | #straightfromsarah: Honoring Cycles to Boost Burnout Recovery | 00:20:15 | |
Have you been trying to live a linear lifestyle in a cyclical world? The truth is, Western society tends to look at life through a linear lens with a big focus on getting from point A to point B. In reality, life is cyclical and when we live out of sync with those cycles, we can be more susceptible to burnout. In this week’s #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED Burnout Coach Sarah Vosen talks about how we can honor the natural cycles in our world by acknowledging them and aligning our lifestyles to better match up. We know that our world runs on cycles, so why do we act like life is linear? Our planet cycles, our seasons cycle, our moon cycles, and even our hormones cycle. The hustle culture of constantly grinding through life is in direct opposition to living within nature’s cycles. If we are always forced to rise before the sun, stay up too late, and eat heavy foods because it is all that we have access to in the fifteen minutes we are allowed for lunch, it will be very hard to honor the natural cycles of the day and the seasons. When we are aligned with the cycles going on around us and within our bodies, we can be better in tune with our needs and better equipped to combat burnout. Tune into this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to learn more about cycles and how to live your life in a way that honors nature and wards off burnout. Quotes · “When we think about life being point A to point Z we miss out on the wisdom we gain when we have awareness of what we learned through repetition.” (1:24-1:32 | Sarah) · “Our circadian rhythm guides many processes in our body and is therefore a key player in determining our overall health. This is why you hear lots about the importance of morning routines and sleep hygiene. It's because it optimizes circadian rhythm.” (3:10-3:24 | Sarah) · “When we understand this correlation of seasons to phases, and the similarities we experienced hormonally during each, we can use our knowledge of the season to guide us throughout our cycle. This takes that complicated chart with the lines going in all directions that we were shown in puberty that was supposed to describe what was happening for us inside and makes menstruation a much more user friendly experience.” (8:05-8:28 | Sarah) · “When we embrace where we are in our cycles and utilize what our hormones are doing inside of us, we can surrender into ease with the process. This is much more desirable than fighting with ourselves and being frustrated with the pressure to be something we are currently not.” (8:43-8:58 | Sarah) · “Burnout culture demands we be consistent, reliable, productive, happy, successful, thin and toned, faster and better forever and ever.” (15:15-15:23 | Sarah) · “We are not linear. We cycle, life cycles, our day cycles, our moon cycles, our seasons cycle year after year. And it's not just women that cycle. It's now known that men also have hormonal cycles…We do not experience the same inner or outer environment moment after moment. So how can we expect to act, feel, or have the same needs in each moment?” (16:14-16:49 | Sarah) Links Fried Masterclass July 2022: https://www.caitdonovan.com/offers/wBzaoPr7 COUPON CODE: CYCLES XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 20 Feb 2022 | Shelley Paxton: Shifting From Success-EMPTY to Success-FULL and How All of Us SUCK at Burnout Recovery Sometimes | 00:52:39 | |
“You can get to the top of a particular mountain and feel success-empty,” explains Shelley Paxton, speaker and author of Soulbattical: A Corporate Rebel’s Guide to Finding Your Best Life. Shelley worked for many years as a marketing executive including a glamorous career as the Chief Marketing Officer of Harley-Davidson. However, while she may have looked extremely successful from the outside, inside she was experiencing full-fledged burnout. Five and a half years into her sexy motorcycle-riding, black-leather-wearing career, Shelley began to have a recurring nightmare that led her on a journey of meditation and soul-searching. After months of self-exploration, she realized that this dream was telling her that she was completely disconnected from her true self. She had aligned her idea of success with checking boxes on a list that didn’t actually make her feel fulfilled. By leaving her marketing career behind and learning how to slow down and be present, Shelley was able to discover real success and leave her burnout behind. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Shelley Paxton about the meaning of success, asking for help, and connecting with your soul. Hear tips from Shelley on how to slow down and make time for yourself, so you can move from success-empty to success-FULL.
Quotes • “In my quest to be this badass, trying to be all things to all people, all my boundaries fell. I was bending over backwards and people-pleasing, and I realized this has been a pattern in my life.” (05:08-05:21) • “Ultimately this thing called ‘success’ was somebody else’s definition of it. I was ticking all the boxes of traditional success when the majority of those – money and titles and accolades and material things – wasn’t feeding me inside and wasn’t truly connecting with me. You can get to the top of a particular mountain and feel success-empty.” (06:57-07:57) • “You’re not alone. We’re in this together. More of us feel this way than I ever knew five years ago when I walked away from Harley. I truly thought I was alone.” (10:54-11:05) • “If I continue living as I am now, for the next three, five, ten years or more, am I moving toward who I want to become or further away?” (18:15-18:28) • “If you feel like this when you’re 50, you’re gonna have a short, miserable life. You’re gonna be one of those people who slugs it through until retirement and dies on the day after she retires. Or you’re not gonna make it that far. Is this the life you really want to be living? Do you want to feel this way? What I’ve realized is that success is a feeling. It’s not a checklist.” (18:41-19:14) • “What if the most iconic brand I could ever represent is Shelley Paxton?” (19:42-19:48) • “The value of being present is noticing, getting curious. You see the little signs that the universe has been giving you along the way. It sounds cheesy and maybe it is cheesy, but I’ve come to love it…When I’m fully present, I am noticing what’s being given to me at every moment and I am fully connected to myself and the people that I’m with.” (27:15-27:52) • “Boundaries over busyness. Boundaries over burnout…resentment is really a sign of a violated boundary.” (38:39-38:50) • “Success feels like I go to bed tired with a smile on my face. I go to bed tired with the knowledge that I don’t feel empty, I feel full. I feel tired because I left it all on the field today. I showed up for this conversation, for my people, and for myself. That feels so incredible.” (42:16-42:44)
Links https://www.instagram.com/soulbbatical/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/shelley-paxton-759163/
XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 10 Dec 2023 | #straightfromcait: How Festivus from Seinfeld can Help with Workplace Burnout | 00:11:49 | |
In today's episode, I will talk about the concept of Festivus from Seinfeld and how its elements, such as the Festivus pole, airing of grievances, feats of strength, and the declaration of Festivus miracles, can be adapted to address workplace burnout. Episode Highlights: Cait Donovan talks about Festivus from Seinfeld, exploring each of its element's application in battling burnout. Cait stresses the importance of simplicity, open communication, setting achievable goals, and celebrating positive changes in creating a healthier work environment. Cait encourages listeners to get their own Festivus miracle by using a resentment journal, which is a tool designed to identify aspects of your life that generate resentment, assisting in the process of determining whether to eliminate or modify them. While Festivus originates from a sitcom as a lighthearted and absurd holiday, its components can offer valuable lessons in combating workplace burnout. Remember to declutter your workspaces, encourage open communication, set achievable goals, and celebrate your victories. By doing so, you can make your workplaces more resilient and enjoyable! Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com https://caitdonovan.com Book a free 1:1 call: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried | |||
| 26 Jul 2020 | #straightfromcait: Burnt Out and Feel Like Your Spiritual Practices are Broken? You're Not Alone. | 00:20:08 | |
Hi FRIED Friends! LINK: bit.ly/callcait You’ve found yourself right in the beginning of a #straightfromcait episode and I’m so grateful that you’re here. Your time, and your listening energy is so appreciated and my biggest hope is that the information you get by being here is worth every last second. I really do my best to be sure that’s the truth! We’re at the end of July now and holy shit, it’s almost August 2020. Can you even? I cannot. In August, I will celebrate my 38th Birthday (I love my birthday, so get ready to hear about it a few times in the coming episodes ;)) and let me tell you, I’m not where I thought I’d be. Growing up, I knew I’d do something a little different, I was always a little left of center when it came to my choices, my friends, my style, and my ideas. And even though this was always a part of me, I felt too far away from center for a long time. As a pre-med student who turned to Chinese medicine instead, and as an American living abroad, and then as an author of a book and a podcast on a topic that no one used to talk about - it seems like I’m always at tne edges. Living on that edge, making the different choice, following my heart sometimes left me defensive and in a state where I had to PROVE to everyone that I wasn’t crazy, that acupuncture worked, that life coaching matters, that the work I do is POWERFUL and transformational even if other people didn’t understand it. It’ll be no surprise to you, as a FRIED The Burnout Podcast listener, that this constant need to prove my value because I was not in the mainstream was part of my burnout. I realized this past week that is no longer the case. Not only do I not have anything to prove (I’ve already done the uber successful bit) but I’m so glad to be on the edges. I like living here in the world of personal development, spirituality, alternative medicine, energy healing, quantum physics and all of it. Even when I don’t agree with it all, I love it and I love being a part of it. That’s why, when I was totally burnt out, I was reallly frustrated. I would read things on manifestation and the law of attraction and mindset and positive thinking and want to throw something against a wall - it all sounded like bullshit to me, even though I’d experienced it earlier in my life. When I was burnt out, it was because I was not in my OWN mainstream, not in my OWN center. I was trying too hard to be ‘good enough’ for everyone and everything else that I left myself behind. When you do that, you’re spending an awful lot of time in your left brain and you’re missing the magic, the energy, the creativeness, and the connectedness that your right brain has to offer. When they’re both working, both the left and right sides of your brain, when they’re connected, when they’re communicating properly - the magic comes back. This is when you can use gratitude journals instead of resentment journals and manifestation alongside your goal setting.
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| 15 Oct 2023 | #straightfromcait: 3 Core Components of Burnout Recovery | 00:07:56 | |
Hello, lovely souls, and welcome to today's episode. I'm Cait Donovan, and I'm truly honored to be your guide as we dive into the essential tools for recovering from burnout. We'll talk about the healing power of yoga, the importance of foundational self-care, the creation of an upgraded boundary system, and the immense value of community in your burnout recovery process. Stay tuned as we unpack these essential tools, share practical insights, and embark on a journey toward a life filled with more balance, joy, and purpose. Episode Highlights: Cait emphasizes the critical importance of foundational self-care, urging listeners to heed their body's basic needs, enhance interoception, and embrace practices like Yoga Nidra. She also delves into the significance of cultivating an upgraded boundary system, underlining the role of improved interoception in setting flexible, healthy boundaries. Cait underscores the value of community in burnout recovery, highlighting how isolation can contribute to burnout and encouraging listeners to seek support from various groups and communities. Her message resonates with the idea that recovery is a unique, step-by-step journey, and self-compassion is the guiding light. Everyone's path to recovery is unique. These core components provide a foundation, but your journey may require additional elements. Take it one step at a time, listen to your body, and allow your recovery to unfold naturally.
Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com Book a free 1:1 call: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried | |||
| 12 May 2024 | #straightfromcait: Realities of Burnout Recovery and Coaching (Behind the Scenes) | 00:14:14 | |
“I don’t want to convince you that whenever we finish working, you should be dancing, pirouetting on clouds in ballet slippers,” host Caitlin Donovan explains on this solo episode of FRIED, where she talks about managing expectations from burnout recovery work, particularly the program FRIED offers lead by her partner Sarah Vosen. In a space that, largely for marketing purposes, will promise that you’ll come out the other side of recovery feeling nothing but joy forever after, Cait offers some refreshing transparency about what she offers, why she specifically only offers short-term help, and the seemingly simple outcomes that will completely change your quality of life. Health, peace, productivity, improved communication–these are all huge things made all the more sweet for having recovered from burnout. Yet, recovery doesn’t mean a life free from problems. Cait explains her reasoning behind only offering short-term coaching and why Sarah stopped offering coaching packages. There is no one, perfect way to be coached or to find your way out of burnout. The best first step is to get clear about your goals and the results you yourself want to achieve. Quotes
Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv | |||
| 19 May 2024 | Jahmaal Marshall: Trauma Responses on Autopilot Lead to Burnout | 00:59:16 | |
Need to get started on your burnout recovery? Download the Core Values Worksheet today! https://bit.ly/corevaluesfreebie “Are you an introvert or just into hurt?” asks Jahmaal Marshall, certified counselor and founder of Listen Then Speak LLC and the podcast of the same name. Many of us develop behavior and personae, he explains, around a need to protect ourselves from rejection, and we carry these into our personal and professional adult lives. Growing up with a severely addicted father, Jahmaal became as he calls it, “the classic chameleon,” overachieving in school and later at work, fulfilling everyone’s needs in an effort not to cause problems. Today on FRIED, he and Cait talk about the connection between childhood trauma and burnout, the resentment that can build up in us when we feel like we are giving with no reciprocation and the resentment we can experience from others when we set boundaries for ourselves. When we give with the expectation of receiving in return, we may think we’re being generous when actually we are assuming others’ needs, or acting from our own neediness. We can also close ourselves off to the many unexpected ways in which people can show their gratitude. Join today’s discussion to find out what happened when Jahmaal drew a line in the sand at work, and the important lesson he learned. Quotes
Links Connect with Jahmaal Marshall: https://mindsetmastermethod.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ https://topmate.io/jahmaal_marshall Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv | |||
| 25 Aug 2019 | Erin Elizabeth Wells: The Permission to Decommit Can Help Heal Burnout | 00:53:25 | |
Erin Elizabeth Wells, founder of Chosen Course, talks to us about her own burnout which included sobbing, in fetal position, on a bathroom floor when she should have been at Thanksgiving dinner with her then boyfriend. We've all had those moments where emotions totally take over. Erin reminds us to create space, pause, and give ourselves some grace and permission to decommit when our plates are overflowing. If you know you need some systems, check out this podcast and then head to Erin's website for great tips. You'll find everything at: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/erin-elizabeth-wells Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 22 May 2022 | #straightfromcait: The Articles Against Self-Care for Burnout Recovery Are Missing This Major Point | 00:21:28 | |
Many articles that talk about burnout make the mistake of devaluing self-care as a burnout prevention or recovery tool. But self care isn’t all just pedicures and massages, and it can be a huge factor in burnout recovery. When you take away self-care, it puts the entire focus on the systems in place that cause burnout, which may lead people to believe there is nothing they can do to influence their burnout recovery. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains 8 factors affecting burnout that are within our locus of control. Are you feeling like you have no control over any of the causes of your burnout? The first step is to figure out which factors are internal and which are external. If your burnout is caused mostly by external factors such as your job, then you know to start making an exit plan. Not all factors are external, and many internal factors are within our control. By getting reacquainted with our core values, learning to set boundaries, and beginning to meet our most basic foundational bodily needs, you can reduce the factors that contribute to burnout. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how certain types of self care are pivotal for burnout recovery. Learn the 8 factors within our internal locus of control that can help you heal from burnout. Quotes • “Waiting for the system to change while you're already burned out is not a successful plan.” (3:27-3:32) • “You might not be able to change the system, but you can leave it.” (6:50-6:54) • “Knowing what your values are, and taking action to move yourself toward a life that is more aligned with them will catapult your recovery. Being in alignment matters. I don't mean this in a woowoo way. I mean this in a neuroscience way. If you are living a life that does not match your values, about 75 to 80% of the time, you are creating stress for yourself on a regular basis that your body has to react to.” (12:21-12:50) • “It is really, really difficult to notice and meet your bigger needs when your basic needs are ignored. Work on being in your body enough to notice when you are thirsty, tired, have to use the bathroom, your eyes need a break from the screen, you’re full from eating, your body is asking you to move. The basics. When you start caring for yourself on that very base level, you start to believe you are deserving of even more care.” (16:33-17:35) Links: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz https://www.maggiesupernova.com/yoga https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-ie https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values Reference: Harrington, R. Personality and Stress. Stress, Health, and Well-Being: Thriving in the 21st Century. Boston. Cengage. 2013. 9781111831615. Ch. 6. pp. 171-208. XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 28 Mar 2021 | Dana Inouye: The 3P Framework For Moving Through The Messiness Of Motherhood | 00:51:58 | |
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Episode summary: Dana Inouye is an empowerment coach (and hot-mess mom of 4). She works with creative women and rebellious leaders who know they're meant for more but are stuck in spirals of overthinking and people-pleasing. She helps women connect to the bigger part inside of them (their "inner wild") and seduce their dreams, so that they can show up bigger, emboldened, epically expressed, and anchored in their power. Dana has developed a groundbreaking REWILDING process that merges mindset and embodiment and activates emotions. She maintains that we can't think our way to results, we've gotta FEEL it. We talked about rage, the all elusive balance, and the tender moments that happen when you allow yourself to be honest.
Discussed in this episode:
- Kids are with you all the f*ing time (especially now) [4:10] - Lightbulb moments in the shower [6:47] - Hunkering down for windows of time as an entrepreneur mom [8:51] - The push and pull of motherhood [12:25] - Magic in the mess [17:26] - Being honest about emotions and being able to rant [22:14 ] - Kids, anger, screaming, and emotional balance [27:37] - Reframing as a tool for freedom [36:30] - The 3P Framework: Pleasure, Power, and Possibility [40:21] - You’re Fine, and so are your kids [48:12]
Find Dana: http://danainouye.com/ http://danainouye.com/releaseandrise/Links Mentioned in Show The Bouncebackability Factor: bit.ly/bouncebackorder The Resentment Journal Mini Course: https://caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal XOXO C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 28 Jan 2024 | Monica Wang: How to Burnout, Recover, and Keep Your Job | 01:02:35 | |
Hello, listeners! I'm Cait Donovan, and I'm excited about today's episode. Our guest, Dr. Monica Wang, will share her inspiring journey of overcoming burnout as a veterinarian, incorporating Chinese medicine into her healing process. She’ll discuss her challenges of burnout in veterinary school, Traditional Chinese Veterinary Medicine, the importance of self-care, and how small changes impacted her well-being. She will also talk about how she set boundaries, embraced core values, reduced work hours, managed burnout, and achieved work-life balance. Episode Highlights: Monica encourages people to discover and embrace their values. Imagine this: instead of a generic checklist, self-care becomes a personalized experience that aligns with what truly matters to each of us. It's the key to navigating burnout in a way that feels right for you. But that's not all; picture having a supportive guide during times of burnout – someone who can help you reflect on your experiences when self-reflection feels difficult. Whether it's a coach, therapist, or another professional, external support becomes your compass through the burnout maze. And here's where Monica shares some truth about the "Work Harder" trap. She dispels the myth that pushing harder is the solution to burnout – in fact, it might make things worse. She encourages us to shift our perspective, seek support, and understand that more effort isn't always the answer. Take a moment to absorb that. Appreciate and act upon every little aspect of self-care – because within those small changes lies the potential for significant well-being transformation. Connect with Dr. Monica Wang: - Free meditation guide for people who don't like to meditate: https://tinyurl.com/mr3we3t6 Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com Book an Initial Session with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried | |||
| 05 Apr 2020 | Caspar Szulc: The Journey to Finding Your Authentic Self | 00:46:09 | |
Caspar is the co-founder of Innovative Medicine. Caspar burnt out in his 20s, but the experience forced him to search for his authentic self—and he says he had to practice everything he preached at work to reset and bounce back. More about Caspar: casparszulc.com Free 35-minute calls with Cait: caitdonovan.as.me/free For 20% of Nadovim, visit nadovim.com and enter the code BURNOUT. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 15 Dec 2024 | Erica Rooney: Sticky Floors and Glass Ceilings - It's Time To Get UNSTUCK | 00:43:21 | |
“Spoiler alert: You’re not stuck. There’s always something you can do,” explains today’s guest Erica Rooney, keynote speaker, highly-sought after executive coach and author of the best-selling book, “Glass Ceilings and Sticky Floors,” the latter of which, she explains, are the limiting beliefs and toxic behaviors that keep so many of us from moving forward and reaching our goals and potential. On today’s episode of FRIED, Erica joins host Cait Donovan to discuss the fear of asking for help, the fallout within a generation of women who were raised to believe they can have it all, and why, for most of us, burnout started before we even reached the age of five. Like so many women, Erica was “working like she didn’t have kids and parenting like she didn’t have a job,” and turned to alcohol to cope with the never-ending list of “shoulds” she kept piling onto herself. She and Cait discuss the parallels between addiction–so much of which is not to substances but feelings and expectations—and burnout. Erica discusses her SNAP method, a four-step science-backed framework to help you become more aware of your body’s signals, to ask yourself the tough yet important questions and to pivot into a new and more productive mindset. Join today to learn the mentality that makes Cait want to kick people in the teeth—with love—and how to choose a better way of thinking. Quotes
Links Connect with Erica Rooney: https://www.ericaandersonrooney.com https://www.instagram.com/ericaandersonrooney/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/ericarooney/ https://ericaandersonrooney.myflodesk.com/ Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm | |||
| 10 Jan 2021 | #straightfromcait: Meditation to Regulate Your Nervous System | 00:14:20 | |
Hi Fried Fans, This week, I released an episode about when the world's gone mad and told you that I'd be following it up with a yoga nidra, or body scan meditation that you can use as a tool to help ground yourself when the world has gone mad and your overwhelmed. This is it. <3 Enjoy C Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 29 Jul 2019 | E Douglas Kihn: Worrying, Hurrying, and Overeating | 00:44:44 | |
E Douglas Kihn shares his 35+ years of experience in the healing arts with us and has written the book: Chinese Medicine for the Modern World - Ancient Wisdom to Stop Worrying, Hurrying, and Overeating. Within his book and this podcast, we dove deep into trusting your own body, the need for deep rest, and the limits of Chinese medicine and coaching when trauma is involved. We both agree that everyone needs a therapist at some point, and we also agree that finding your own inner wisdom is your way through and out of burnout. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 19 Jul 2019 | Mindie Kniss: Using The Heart To Guide You Away From Burnout | 00:47:27 | |
It might sound woo, but this is science-backed spirituality in today's episode. Mindie Kniss, is a business coach and award-winning humanitarian. In 2008, she left a Fortune 100 career to become an entrepreneur but ended up living out of her office, facing foreclosure, eviction, and bankruptcy. Today, she is CEO of Lucra™, a company dedicated to training coaches and speakers. Mindie was awarded the prestigious Global Health Fellowship in Nairobi, Kenya. She has spoken on stages around the globe and was named one of the topmost influential living teachers of The Path of the Heart. She holds degrees in theology, creative writing, and philosophy. Show notes available at: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/home/mindie-kniss Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 13 Nov 2022 | #straightfromcait: Quiet Quitting, Loud Quitting, and Resentment | 00:16:33 | |
Quiet quitting is not a new concept, but has gotten a lot of attention recently after the pandemic shook up the job market. The basic idea of quiet quitting is being disengaged from your work and this can often be mistaken for burnout. The key difference is that quiet quitting is intentional, whereas if you are burned out, you are likely to be disengaged as a result rather than as a choice. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains quiet quitting vs. loud quitting, and the way resentment fuels disengagement.
Resentment is the primary emotion that leads to quiet quitting. This could be resentment for how you are being treated at work, resentment for being forced back into the office, resentment over your job role not being clear enough, or any multitude of reasons. If you are disengaged because you really don’t feel like your current position is a good fit for you, it is best to loud quit rather than sticking around and growing more resentful. That resentment builds over time and can lead to burnout, so planning an exit strategy and leaving your job may be the best option for your long term mental health. If you need help working to transform your resentment and make a plan for moving forward, Cait has created the Resentment Journal specifically for that purpose which can be accessed from her website.
Sometimes your job or the company you are working for won’t be the best fit for you. It does not always mean that there is something inherently wrong with you or the company. In those situations, it is best to form an exit strategy and leave to find a better fit. In other cases, your company may be willing to work with you to help better meet your needs, and it may come down to having a conversation with your boss or an HR professional to see what can be done. Regardless of the reason causing you to disengage, it is always best to loud quit versus quiet quitting, because in the long run quiet quitting will increase resentment and damage your mental health.
Quotes • “There are going to be situations where you and a company are just not a good fit. And it doesn't mean that either of you are bad or good.” (4:31-4:41 | Cait) • “If something's not a fit, just loud quit, get out of here, go do something else.” (5:38-5:43 | Cait) • “When you are burnt out and you find yourself in a situation similar to quiet quitting, I want you to understand that that's likely a coping mechanism and not necessarily part of an actual decision that you're making.” (6:34-6:46 | Cait) • “Quiet quitting as a short term coping mechanism, acceptable. Quiet quitting as a long term plan for life will destroy your mental health.” (10:15-10:25 | Cait) • “If we start building enough courage to speak up about our needs, we will find quite often that people are willing to meet them.” (11:47-12:00 | Cait) “The emotion that sits behind quiet quitting is resentment. And the answer to that is creating space for and transforming that resentment.” (13:51-14:07 | Cait)
Links
https://www.caitdonovan.com/resentment-journal
https://womensmeditationnetwork.com/
XOXO, C
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| 29 Sep 2024 | #straightfromcait: Getting Out Of The Toxic Workplace Burnout Cycle | 00:12:15 | |
Ready to leave burnout behind for good? Join UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start reclaiming your energy and joy. Apply today! https://bit.ly/unfryapply “The problem isn’t you; the problem is the toxic workplace,” explains host Caitlin Donovan on this latest #straightfromcait episode of FRIED, in which she discusses the dangers of returning to a toxic workplace only to repeat the burnout cycle again, as if you never made any recovery progress. Too often we’re led to believe that if we improve ourselves enough, we can develop an immunity against a bad environment, which, as Cait says, simply isn’t true. On today’s episode, she explains why you should reconsider returning to your toxic workplace, and, if you do find yourself there, what to do if you find yourself unsupported. She discusses the common feelings of isolation, loneliness, emotional and mental paralysis and low self-esteem that accompany this scenario, and the devastating effects of bullies in the workplace. You’ve come too far in your burnout recovery to jump back into the very situation that got you burned out in the first place. Join Cait today to learn the importance of being aware of, and listening to your body responses, to better detect and determine if your environment is safe. Quotes
Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Ready to leave burnout behind for good? Join UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start reclaiming your energy and joy. Apply today! https://bit.ly/unfryapply Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm | |||
| 03 Jan 2021 | Shonté Javon Taylor: This Is Your Brain on Burnout (Taught By A Neuroscientist) | 00:54:54 | |
Episode summary: In this episode, guest Shonte Javon Taylor who is a neuroscientist with a mission of empowering 100 million minds shares her story of finding herself in a parking lot, after hitting a pole, hearing her children cry in her backseat and hearing her inner voice say, “You have got to do something different”. By using her understanding of the mind and how it best works, Shonte has dedicated her life to inspiring Leaders and Coaches to tap into this same knowledge to make their lives and businesses better and their students and clients happier. Show Notes: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/shonte-javon-taylor Topics discussed in this episode: - Mountain of Pride Exercise [4:34] - Crashing, literally [9:05] - Being in your best mental health for you, and the world [10:39] - What can we do individually to keep our fear brain safe [15:00] - The modern brain vs. the ancient brain [20:10] - The amygdala [26:00] - For our brains to keep growing [30:45] - Trauma, hypersensitive brains, and chronic stress [37:30] - Brain Janitors [46:20]
Resources mentioned in this episode: Shonte’s Optimind Institute 8 Week Course
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| 10 Oct 2021 | #straightfromcait: Do I Need to Quit My Job to Recover from Burnout? | 00:12:18 | |
Do I need to quit my job to heal from burnout? This is one of the most common questions I hear asked in the burnout community. The answer? It depends. Like most things when it comes to burnout, your journey is unique and you may or may not need to leave your current job in order to make a full recovery.
One of the things I recommend to my one-on-one clients is to stay in their existing job (as long as it’s not extremely toxic) to see how much recovery they can accomplish in their current situation. This helps people take responsibility for their pieces of the puzzle, so that they can more easily identify and address the external factors that might be contributing to their burnout.
Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode to learn more about distinguishing between the internal and external causes behind your burnout. If you’re ready to start the healing process, go ahead and book a free one-on-one consultation with me using the link below! We will get clear on the specifics of your burnout story, so you can determine the approach that’s best for you.
Quotes • “Burnout causes are such a mixed bag of your own shit and life-work shit that it can be really hard to pull those two things apart, especially in the beginning.” (01:30-01:39) • “We are trying to figure out which pieces are internal and which pieces are external, which pieces you can control by doing some internal work and which pieces you can only control by leaving your job and changing your environment.” (02:08-02:26) • “I do not believe that it is the work of the individual to change corporate or company culture, but some people do choose to stay in their positions and see if they can help spearhead a change. Some people realize that the change is beyond their capabilities, so creating an exit strategy becomes freeing.” (10:10-10:27) • “So, do you need to quit your job to heal? Maybe. But first, let’s get clear on what’s happening, so that you can make that decision with clarity, with purpose and without guilt or shame.” (11:28-11:41)
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XOXO, C
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| 05 Jan 2020 | Melissa Boo: To Avoid Burnout - Choose Yourself, Every Time | 00:49:45 | |
Melissa and I spent a lot of time on this podcast talking about the internal vs. external causes of burnout and how at the end and underneath all of it - your body has to come first because, as Melissa’s aunt told her, ‘You only get one body’. No matter what the corporation says. No matter what your boss says. No matter what your non-profit that you adore says - YOUR BODY COMES FIRST. So, as 2020 begins, I’m asking you - We’re asking you - to CHOOSE YOURSELF. No matter what your resolutions are, no matter what challenges stand in your way - choose you. Over and over and over again - it’s a sure path to peace and fulfillment. Show Notes: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/melissa-boo/ Instagram (best place to connect): www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast Melissa's website: www.melissaboo.com
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| 12 Nov 2023 | #straightfromcait: How to End Rumination, People Pleasing, and Perfectionism | 00:11:18 | |
A wonderful day to everyone! I’m Cait Donovan, your burnout recovery coach, helping you in your healing journey. Today, I will address the question of one user in the Facebook group about taking small, daily, simple actions to overcome rumination, people-pleasing, and perfectionism. I also highlight the ideas of other members to handle these problems effectively. Episode Highlights: To deal with rumination, there are two actions you can do. Firstly, when you notice you’re ruminating, stop it immediately. Then close your eyes, inhale and exhale, and question yourself; I wonder what I'll think of next. The second action is called Go Grok Cards, wherein you play by guessing your feelings and needs. These two suggestions focus on being mindful and curious as the key to overcoming rumination. For people pleasing, practice disappointing people in any small way. When you start to disappoint people, you will find that the things you're doing don't even disappoint anyone. One example is that when someone in your household can’t find something, don’t help them and just say they can do it without your help. You may feel fear practicing this, but it will help you to see that it is okay not to do what people want from you. Lastly, Cait suggests that to overcome perfectionism, people must choose one or two places in their lives where they use perfectionism on purpose because it’s useful and not in the places where it is useless. Another action you can take is just to be grateful when receiving compliments and stop unnecessarily saying sorry. Every person is different, and so there are numerous actions you can do to quit ruminating, slow down people's pleasing, and control perfectionism. Find what suits you the best, and share your process to help others in the community. Let everyone be successful in this burnout recovery journey!
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| 17 Oct 2021 | Casey Davidson: Alcohol Use, Overwork, and the Societally Accepted Addiction That Feeds Them Both | 00:57:01 | |
“Quitting drinking was literally my worst case scenario in life,” says Casey Davidson. “I desperately loved red wine, and I didn’t want to give it up, but I knew it was an issue.” Casey explains that before she quit drinking, she was consuming more than a bottle of wine a night, seven days a week. She told herself that the wine was a necessity, that it was the only thing helping her cope with her stressful corporate job and being a mother to her two young children. But at a certain point, Casey realized her mental health was at stake, and so she cut wine out for good.
Now, Casey is a Certified Professional Life & Sobriety Coach, host of The Hello Someday Podcast and the creator of the Free Sober Girl’s Guide to Quitting Drinking. Casey specializes in working with busy, successful women who are ready to drink less and live more. She tells listeners that many of her clients come to her saying they want to quit drinking forever….and Casey stops them right in their tracks. Instead of setting a “forever” goal, Casey instead encourages clients to stop drinking for 100 days. This tangible number gives clients the opportunity to create space between themselves and their drinking, so they can better understand how healthy and fulfilled they can feel without alcohol.
Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a tough, yet powerful conversation with Casey about alcohol and burnout. Learn about Casey’s own recovery journey, how to expand your social environment to promote sobriety, and the importance of adding sober treats into each and every day regardless of your relationship with alcohol.
Quotes • “I feel like burnout and over drinking are really tied together because drinking increases depression and anxiety and feeling like one extra thing is going to break the camel’s back and a lot of people drink as a coping mechanism, not even realizing that when you drink too much you wake up at 3am with crushing anxiety and a racing heart rate and just feeling like complete garbage.” (02:50-03:25) • “For so many women and I know for myself, I thought the alcohol was helping me. I thought my bottle of wine at night was my only reward, the thing that was holding me together.” (04:00-04:12) • “Alcohol is not the solution and it’s actually preventing you from really taking care of yourself, really setting boundaries, really digging into what your body needs, what your mind needs, what’s not working for you in your life.” (11:12-11:26) • “So many women are in this gray area of struggling with alcohol, trying to limit it, trying to moderate it, and nobody talks about it. But, if someone actually decides to take a period away from drinking or to look at their relationship with alcohol, they are a million times ahead of so many women. It is brave, it is something incredible that you’re doing. It’s like deciding to run a marathon.” (36:00-36:28) • “In the year I stopped drinking, I made more new friends that I’d made in the decade before.” (44:40-44:45) • “In my first month not drinking, I saved $550. In three months, I saved $1,650. And five and a half years later, I’ve saved $36,000 not poisoning my body.” (47:34-47:48)
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XOXO, C
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| 30 Jul 2023 | Mandy Lehto: The 7 Realistic Phases of Burnout | 01:03:37 | |
Dr. Mandy Lehto was a people pleaser for such a long period of time that she ended up completely disconnected from herself. She found herself snappy and irritable, consistently pushing herself harder and farther beyond the limits of what she could handle. After a scary moment collapsing while boxing, Dr. Lehto realized something was wrong that even the world’s strongest coffee would not be able to fix. Through her burnout recovery journey, Dr. Lehto identified 7 realistic phases of burnout which she uses to guide others through their own burnout recoveries.
As a perfectionist and people-pleaser, it is common to be so focused on external validation that you lose sight of what you actually want and need. Like most people, Dr. Lehto started off her burnout journey in phase 1, denial. It took fully collapsing and then developing an unfortunate face rash to finally admit to herself that there was a problem. She went into the triaging phase with the same perfectionist approach she used when facing anything, trying to be the absolute best at meditating and downing kale smoothies. She tried every method she could access for hacking her healing from cutting gluten to attending spiritual retreats until at last reaching the stage of reluctant surrender. It was not going to be possible to completely recover on her own, and she would need to allow others to help her. She accepted that it was finally time to release the false fire of that external validation and fuel herself from within, stepping into the chutes and ladders phase of experimentation to discover which parts of herself were real and which were performance. Lastly, she embraced the final stage that wholeness equals whole mess, acknowledging that it's okay to not be perfect.
Dr. Lehto’s seven burnout phases are deeply relatable for anyone experiencing burnout regardless of where they currently are in their recovery journey. If you struggle with people-pleasing and being your authentic self, consider approaching your healing through the lens of these seven phases.
Quotes • “Being a people pleaser perfectionist, I wasn't connected to myself, to my own likes, dislikes, to my own needs, to my own wants, because it was always about external validation.” (15:09 | Dr. Lehto) • “There's a phrase by Cheryl Strayed, that acceptance is a small quiet room. And that's exactly what this phase felt like.” (20:24 | Dr. Lehto) • “Just because a system is one way in one place, that doesn't mean that it's that way in every other place.” (30:10 | Cait) • “I don't need to contort myself to be who I think I need to be so that other people will approve of me and validate me.” (40:19 | Dr. Lehto)
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| 05 Nov 2023 | Amelia Nagoski: Unlocking the Stress Cycle, Dealing with Privilege, and Increasing Interoception to Get Out of Burnout | 00:59:22 | |
Hello, lovely listeners! I'm Cait Donovan, your host for today's episode, and I am thrilled to introduce our guest, Amelia Nagoski. Today, we dive deep into her illuminating book, "Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle," a woman's sexual well-being intrinsically linked to a woman’s overall well-being and more about the stress response. Amelia Nagoski is an absolute powerhouse when it comes to understanding and navigating the complex web of emotions and stressors that we all encounter in our lives.
Episode Highlights: Amelia Nagoski shares the inspiration behind her book, "Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle." She traces its origins to her sister, Emily Nagurski, whose New York Times bestselling book, "Come as You Are," delved into the science of women's sexuality. What struck a chord with many readers, however, was the section on emotions, stress management, and overall well-being.
Amelia explores how understanding and completing the stress response cycle is essential for our well-being in this modern world. She guides us on how to move from the state of stress to safety, helping us harness the power of this biological mechanism to lead healthier, more balanced lives. Amelia's message is clear: many people find themselves in situations where they are working multiple jobs, raising children, often on their own, and navigating other overwhelming responsibilities. These circumstances are unsustainable, and those who care about these individuals certainly don't want them to endure such hardship for an extended period.
By building supportive communities where individuals don't have to sacrifice themselves to meet external expectations, we can create an environment where everyone has the opportunity to access the resources they need to thrive.
Connect with Amelia Nagoski: https://www.burnoutbook.net/about-the-authors https://www.instagram.com/amelianagoski/?hl=en https://www.linkedin.com/in/amelia-nagoski-467208b6/ Free meditation guide for people who don't like to meditate: https://tinyurl.com/mr3we3t6
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| 28 Nov 2021 | Maggie Supernova: Entertainment Industry Burnout and Yin Yoga as a Savior for Your Body | 00:56:45 | |
“My life looked great, my Instagram looked great, my CV looked great, but behind the scenes of that, I was burning out in a big way,” says Maggie Supernova, Burnout Prevention and Recovery Coach. In a former life, Maggie worked for 12 years as a marketing executive in the live entertainment industry, a career that took her from the West End of London to Broadway and beyond. While teenage Maggie would have been thrilled by this career path, which had been a lifelong dream, grownup Maggie did not like the person she had become. Her job had become her entire life, and her sense of self, calm and balance were crushed underneath it.
After quite literally collapsing on the floor of her workplace after a two-week vacation, Maggie realized that her body was screaming at her to get out. She quit her job and moved back in with her parents just months before the pandemic hit. Maggie explains that the pandemic was in many ways a blessing in disguise for her, as it forced her to slow down and truly embody the practices she needed to implement to overcome her burnout. Not only did Maggie apply those lessons to her own life, but she is now using them to support others in her work as a yoga instructor and burnout coach as well.
Tune into this week’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a moving conversation with Maggie about the supernova moment that transformed her life. Learn more about the dangers of an all or nothing mentality, the importance of continued practice even when you don’t feel its benefits, and the magic of yin yoga to restore balance to your body and brain.
Quotes • “My life looked great, my Instagram looked great, my CV looked great, but behind the scenes of that, I was burning out in a big way.” (05:07-05:20) • “I can see now how completely unhealthy my life was. I was obsessed with my work, and it was the thing that completely defined me because it wasn’t just work. It was my social life, it was my friends, it was my passion.” (09:58-10:14) • “[I’m now] figuring out who I am, who I’ve always been away from the person that I’ve spent all this time convincing myself that I had to be.” (17:02-17:10) • “Hang on – if I’m doing all of this, if I’m putting myself through hell, if I’m putting everyone around me through hell, if my body is exhausted, my brain is broken, my heart and soul...I don’t know where they’ve gone, then what is the point?” (24:13-24:31) • “[The key] is practicing when you don’t need to practice, practicing when you don’t necessarily immediately feel the benefits of the practice, and just keeping going because keeping going is when the magic happens.” (28:34-28:48) • "[Yin Yoga] is a very slow and meditative form of yoga….It’s all down at the level of the mat. It’s very slow and the principles of Yin are that you create the shape, you hold the shape, you find your edge in that shape...and then you stay there, and you stay there in stillness.” (36:54-37:48) • “When we are burnt out, we feel like we can’t relax, we can’t let go. All we need is to be held and supported for a moment, and we don’t trust ourselves, we don’t trust people around us, we are battered and bruised and broken. And something as simple as a cushion or a wall or a yoga block can be that support for you in that pose and you can completely let go of what you’re holding onto.” (41:36-42:09)
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| 19 Feb 2023 | Kute Blackson: Accept, Grieve, and then Surrender to Recover from Burnout | 00:58:16 | |
Kute Blackson is an inspirational speaker and transformational teacher. He is a member of the Transformational Leadership Council, a group of 100 of the world’s foremost authorities in the personal development industry. He learned about the power and the magic of surrender when his mother was diagnosed with stomach cancer and his time with her became more precious than ever before.
Surrender is a powerful tool for transformation and is an important part of burnout recovery. Humans are naturally hardwired to surrender, but as we grow up, we become resistant to it. We tend to forget that the ego is simply a pattern of behavior and not actually who we truly are. When we mistake ego for personal identity, surrender can feel like death instead of being seen for what it really is, a chance to let go and fully accept life for what it is.
Resisting surrender is exhausting and can lead to burnout. When we fully accept surrender for what it is, we can grieve and then move forward. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Kute Blackson about the magic of surrender.
Quotes • “When I began to surrender and accept that she may not live, maybe this is it, it’s as though it transformed me because every moment became sacred.” (7:08-7:22 | Kute) • “It was so profound, because I would sit in chemo sessions with my mother holding her hand in such gratitude for this moment that I had with her. I would sit in the park with her, all the things that I deemed a waste of time, because I was busy saving the planet, that I didn't have time to just sit and take a walk in the park with my mother because it was just not productive was so precious for the first time like it could be the last moment. And so the process of surrendering transformed my relationship to the moment, my relationship to her.” (7:47-8:23 | Kute) • “Surrender is the most powerful thing that we can do as human beings.” (11:58-12:01 | Kute) • “Surrender is when we stop trying to force or manipulate life to fit our limited idea of how we think it should be and how we think a relationship should be. It's letting go of who we think we should be, and how we think life should be so that we take the limitations off of life so that we can be truly open and available to the highest unfolding that is seeking to happen.” (15:08-15:37 | Kute) • “When we surrender, that’s when the magic happens.” (15:44-15:47 | Kute) • “Surrender is our natural state. That's what I just want people to get. Surrender is in fact hardwired into our physiology.” (24:10-24:19 | Kute) • “Surrender is a death and when we allow ourselves to fully, fully, fully accept, then we can fully grieve. And when we fully grieve that’s when we're able to let go.” (41:10-41:21 | Kute)
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XOXO, C
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| 16 Apr 2023 | #straightfromcait: Celebrating 100 Guests and 100 Burnout Recovery Tips | 00:21:32 | |
From learning body signals to learning about the link between energy expenditure and finances, over 100 guests have opened up and shared their burnout stories. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, shares burnout recovery tips from 2 guests from each season of FRIED, including lessons from guests like Ashley Rose, Maggie Reyes, Simone Craig, Dr. Valerie Ryan, and more.
Ashley Rose was the first guest ever on FRIED. She and Cait spoke about how childhood trauma creates a greater risk of burnout as an adult. Next, Cait recalls the episode with Maggie Reyes about how there can be a physical component to burnout. You can do all the therapy you want, but if something is physically wrong like a thyroid deficiency or anemia, you will not be able to fully recover without addressing it first. Cait goes on to share more stories from past podcast guests, delving into topics like addiction and codependency, the patriarchy, and the neuroscience of burnout.
There is a lot of valuable information provided throughout the six seasons of FRIED thanks to over 100 guests opening up and sharing their stories of burnout recovery. With tips about being more in touch with your body, following the breadcrumbs to make small changes, surrendering control, and more, you can be sure to learn something that will resonate with your own experiences.
Quotes • “Burnout was part of the story, but part of her burnout was this physical portion. And I think that's so important to remember in a world that is telling us constantly that trauma is the root of all of our problems.” (6:46-6:57 | Cait) • “Follow the breadcrumbs. Look to the smallest little hints of what you should be doing next and follow those and allow them to slowly transform you, instead of trying to make this big massive change. Because big massive changes take big massive energy that you just don't have right now.” (7:25-7:42 | Cait) • “Codependence is this way that we give to other people so much until there's nothing of us left, until we are completely lost. This is such a common thing in burnout.” (10:21-10:31 | Cait) • “When you don't have systems in place to make your life easier, you're spending extra energy figuring everything out fresh every time you do it. Which means that you are blocking the energy that you need to have available for creativity, for joy, for fun, for things that are not get this task done kind of energy.” (15:29-15:48 | Cait)
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XOXO, C
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| 26 Nov 2023 | #straightfromcait: What Can Companies Do to Reduce Burnout Risk? | 00:23:42 | |
In today's episode, I will talk about how companies can help reduce burnout risk with their employees. I will be emphasizing the importance of individual responsibility in recovering from burnout and how a supportive work environment can help to recovery. Episode Highlights: Cait Donovan talks about the intricacies of burnout recovery, emphasizing each individual's pivotal role in the process. She highlights the limited impact of company-initiated changes and recent insights into working with companies on burnout-proofing and culture improvement. Cait stresses the importance of personal investment in their own recovery from burnout. Cait encourages listeners to take a proactive role in their burnout recovery, emphasizing personal investment and the power of expressing gratitude and appreciation in the workplace for a positive shift in dynamics. Remember, in burnout recovery, your pivotal role is crucial, so prioritize personal investment over relying solely on company changes. A little personal responsibility goes a long way. Additionally, foster a culture of psychological safety and always acknowledge the impact of expressing gratitude for a positive workplace shift. Connect with Cait: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com https://caitdonovan.com Book a free 1:1 call: bit.ly/callcait Book a free 1:1 call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Get info on FRIED's group program for burnout recovery: https://caitdonovan.com/unfried | |||
| 20 Mar 2022 | #straightfromcait: You're Burnt Out. Here's What That Means About You | 00:09:34 | |
Are you constantly changing yourself to try and adjust to other people’s values? When you sacrifice your core values for other people, this will often lead to burnout. Recovering from burnout requires you to set limits for your life that will keep you safe and healthy. By pushing perfectionism just to make other people happy, you risk burning out. Focus on your own core beliefs and do what you need to do to support yourself instead of constantly focusing on others. You have intrinsic value and deserve a life where you are protected from burnout. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a wrap-up of Season 4. Learn to stop criticizing coping mechanisms that your body created to protect you, stop sacrificing your core values for others, and build healthy boundaries to keep yourself safe. Quotes • “I am here to celebrate the best parts of you and remind you how great you are whether you’re freshly burnt out and it is your first time here or you’re long time recovered and you’re just here to keep up.” (2:01-2:12) • “There is a platinum rule when you are working with a FRIED. Burnout Coach: there will be no demonizing of your behaviors, coping mechanisms, or habits. Yes, even the shitty ones. There are usually reasons that you behave in one way or another and most of the time behaviors that you engage in at some point had a positive intention or effect, or they were created without attention and intention as a result of someone else’s behavior when you were a child. What we do focus on is the fact that some of these behaviors leave you vulnerable to burnout, especially if you’re in shitty or toxic environments, whether those be work or home.” (2:20-3:14) • “Where do you want to apply your perfectionism and where can you let it go because it’s based on someone else’s standards or values that don’t match your own?” (5:14-5:22) • “That’s how we #endburnoutculture. When we all return to our core values over and over and over again.” (5:53-6:01) • “You are not broken. You have power. You have power to utilize your gifts in a way that is supportive and useful for you and others. The parts of you that you judge have gold nuggets in them. Burnout recovery does not require that you fundamentally change who you are, but rather become more of who you are within limits that you set for yourself to keep you safe, healthy, and protected.” (6:56-7:23) • “You have so much to offer simply by existing. You just might need to allow the rules of the game to shift a little instead of constantly trying to change yourself.” (8:12-8:24) Links https://caitdonovan.com https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 13 Mar 2022 | Lopa van der Mersch: Trauma Recovery, the Vagus Nerve, and Adaptogens | 00:57:32 | |
“My experience with burnout personally is that it can be much more of a spectrum. It’s not an on/off switch. It’s an unfolding relationship to our energy,” explains Lopa van der Mersch, Founder and CEO of Rasa, the adaptogenic coffee alternatives revolutionizing people’s relationship to their energy. Lopa’s burnout came during a tumultuous stretch of time where she experienced a series of traumatic events that caused intense dysregulation of her central nervous system. In 2015, Lopa left a cult, fell out with her family, had a health crisis, lost a loved one and had a baby by emergency C-section. Her time in the cult left her with Complex Post Traumatic Stress Disorder and that combined with everything else impacted her central nervous system. She learned about the importance of healing the polyvagal nerve as a part of her trauma recovery process. Through healing her relationship with her central nervous system, she also healed from burnout. She recommends exercises that help heal the vagus nerve and incorporating adaptogens into your diet to help build your body’s defenses against burnout. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Lopa van der Mersch about the impact of trauma on burnout. Learn about the vagus nerve and how you can heal trauma to your central nervous system and gain valuable insight into the world of adaptogens. Quotes • “You’ve got the healing from the Complex PTSD and that is going on with the rest of the stuff that would burn you out anyway. And then you’re like, ‘How the fuck am I supposed to do all of this?’” (3:21-4:30) • “If you were to ask me my one word to describe society, it would be ‘inhumane’, because it’s just too much.” (5:05-5:13) • “PTSD is often from a singular event. You get in a car accident, it can be wars and things like that. It’s a more isolated event. Complex PTSD is the result of trauma that happens, it can be micro traumas, it can be a whole spectrum of traumas. It gets into the wiring of your nervous system because it happens over such a consistent period of time. It causes this overarching alertness in your nervous system. It’s kind of always bracing for when that thing is going to happen again.” (22:30-23:25) • “For a while I was like, ‘Maybe this is who I am now. Maybe I’ve just changed and I kind of suck.’ Not being super gentle with myself in those particular moments.” (29:06-29:22) • “What we need to really look at in our lives is what are those systems we’re participating in and taking for granted. Take that bigger stock and say, ‘Why can’t I have the life I want? Why couldn’t I have the support that I need?’” (50:12-51:13) • “You just have to do the next easiest thing and then celebrate that. That dopamine response will start to encourage you to keep going on that upward spiral.” (54:50-55:02) Links Use the following codes for 15%! • USA: FRIED15 • Canada: FRIED15RASA https://www.instagram.com/wearerasa/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/lopa-van-der-mersch/ XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 13 Dec 2020 | #straightfromcait: The Knot - Master Inner Boundaries and Unwind Codependency | 00:13:09 | |
Hey Fried Fans! On this week's #straightfromcait episode, we're going to be going deeper into codependency because so many of you requested it after last week's episode with Melanie Moberg! I decided to read you part of Chapter 19 of The Bouncebackability Factor because it is in that chapter that I talk about the issue of codependency (without using that word :)) The crux of this week's episode is one of my favorite things to talk about (and one of the most requested workshops for my #speakerlife :)) THE KNOT. The knot is a theory that helps you come back to yourself, to stay aligned with your destiny, to be sure that you're serving this world the way you are meant to. I hope you'll enjoy this episode as much as I enjoyed reading it for you Show notes are here: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/sfc-the-knot
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| 07 Nov 2021 | #straightfromcait: Death By Burnout. The Head to Toe List of Severe Health Issues | 00:12:52 | |
Many people do not fully understand the gravity of burnout and the devastating effects that it can have in both the long and short term. In an effort to illuminate the head to toe list of severe health issues that burnout can cause, I recently asked members of my Facebook and Instagram communities to share their biggest and most shocking burnout symptoms.
On today’s #straightfromcait episode, I read a list of these responses, which powerfully speak to the severity of burnout rock bottom. Some of items on this list include: • Vision loss • Trigeminal Neuralgia (severe nerve pain to the face) • Suicidal ideations • Near death experiences • Three months (!!) of strep throat • And many more...
As this partial list demonstrates, burnout is not a joke. Instead, if it is not addressed properly, it can become the catalyst for a wide range of shocking health issues. If you are an employer, it is crucial that you properly support any and all employees who may be suffering from burnout. And if you’re not sure where to start, I can help. Just visit my website, linked in the show notes, to learn more.
Quotes • “I asked all of you recently...to share your biggest and most shocking symptoms with me with the hopes that this information compiled in one easy place, you can use it to reach ears outside of just the burnt out amongst us.” (01:33-01:50) • “Somebody might have a genetic predisposition to bipolar disorder that was not activated for any reason in their lives. And burnout activated it in their lives.” (03:18-03:30) • “Panic attacks feel like a heart attack. Panic attacks make you feel like you’re dying. This is really really scary stuff.” (05:08-05:15) • “Most commonly, the pattern that I hear is this: ‘I knew I didn’t actually want to die, but I couldn’t bear living anymore, so I started imagining driving off a road or falling off a cliff or jumping in front of a bus. And maybe I wouldn’t die, but maybe I’d get some time in a hospital, so I could rest.’” (05:25-05:45) • “‘I was afraid that I’d be found dead at my desk. I was literally working myself to death.’” (07:10-07:16) • “What we’re talking about with burnout is really severe illness, possible inability to function and death. We are not talking about just being a little bit tired. We’re talking about bodies physically breaking down in various ways under the pressure of stress.” (09:34-09:54) • “When somebody comes and says that they’re burnt out, it needs to be taken seriously….A week or two weeks or even four weeks of time off is not going to solve someone’s burnout.” (10:08-10:47)
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XOXO, C
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| 07 Apr 2024 | John Neral: What to Say/Ask in Interviews When Returning After Burnout | 00:52:22 | |
“How you take command of the narrative is what’s going to see you through when you begin to determine what parts, if any, of the story you want to tell.” John Neral, executive and career transition coach, and host of the Mid-Career GPS podcast, joins FRIED to discuss how best to address gaps that burnout leaves in your resume when interviewing with a potential new employer. The first step is removing any shame and recognizing your own power in the process—you are evaluating the company just as much as they’re evaluating you. Using the Four Fs—Fit, Function, Finance, Forward—John advises the questions to ask to determine your values and whether they match the company’s, how to negotiate your best compensation package, and why you should be thinking two steps ahead.
He’ll tell you when to take the conversation deeper and as well as how to avoid wasting both parties’ time. How do those with rejection sensitivity dysmorphia, or those who are still recovering from burnout create the best outcome for both the short term and the long term? Listen as John tells a story about the rude comment one HR executive made that determined his decision of whether to work with the company and his very New Jersey response in return. Quotes
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| 28 Apr 2024 | #friedguides Why Your Burnout Recovery is Stuck (and How to Unstick It) | 00:43:36 | |
“You’re going to have to surrender and have patience and be ready and willing to be annoyed.” On today’s episode of FRIED, Sarah Vosen and Cait review some of the common reasons why your burnout recovery may not be working, or not working as fast as you’d like. First off—you may be overdoing it, which is the exact kind of perfectionistic approach that burned you out in the first place. You have to be open to doing things differently and going at a slower pace than you may be used to. If you’re expecting to make progress using the usual self-care tricks on Instagram and TikTok, you’re in for disappointment. Instead, Cait and Sarah will share with you what will actually get you back on track to the other side of burnout. Burnout recovery is a convalescent period. Your environment—physical, home, work, family, and relationships— can make or break your process. Sarah and Cait will explain how to put yourself first, why treating yourself in the smallest ways makes a world of difference, and why you shouldn’t do this alone. Sarah will share the physiological change that she describes as “miraculous” and that sped up her recovery journey overnight, and reveal the emotional state that has recently been determined to be worse for your health than smoking. You have to believe there is another, better life waiting for you once you recover from burnout. Join Cait and Sarah as they help you remove the obstacles that may be blocking your path. Quotes
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| 27 Oct 2024 | Roslyn McLarty: Founder Burnout and The Bravery of Going WITHIN | 00:54:26 | |
“I just didn’t feel like I had the permission to bring that part of myself into the workplace and say, ‘Hey, I want to start making some shifts,’”says Roslyn McLarty, of her time as co-founder of the GIST, a women-run sports media brand, making sports more inclusive. As the company grew, so did the responsibilities and overwhelm, and she found herself growing away from the company. Since completing burnout recovery coaching with Cait through Cait’s Wayfinder program, Roslyn has learned that when you act in integrity with what your mind, body and soul want to do, not only do you deliver the most impact, you have more to offer the company, and as a founder, set the example for those around you. On today’s episode of FRIED, she shares how her journey through burnout has informed the founding of her latest venture Within, a personal development platform for purpose-driven leaders. A large part of Roslyn’s burnout recovery included learning to be present in her body—rather than just living inside of her own head—and get in better touch with her intuition. She learned to get to the root of her people-pleasing tendencies, to release her resentments and frustration. Roslyn’s story proves what a difference a year can truly make. Join today’s discussion to hear the advice she has for founders based on what she’s learned throughout her own journey. Quotes
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| 26 Feb 2023 | #straightfromcaitandsarah: Answering Your Most Common Burnout Questions | 00:47:23 | |
Recovering from burnout requires you to be okay with being uncomfortable. Rest is actually incredibly productive, and even though you might feel restless or guilty about sitting still it is vital for recovery. In today’s #straightfromcaitandsarah episode, Cait Donovan, host and burnout speaker, and Sarah Vosen, FRIED burnout coach, answer your most common burnout questions from the FRIED Facebook group.
If you are expending too much time and energy and not receiving enough resources back, this will contribute to burnout. You can’t go into burnout recovery the same way as you tackle other issues, because it requires an entirely different approach. When your resources are depleted, you need to rest in order to refill those resources. Your body is likely to start sending signals in the form of various ailments and symptoms if you ignore the signs for too long and refuse to rest.
When you are experiencing signs of burnout, it is time to stop and take a break. Allow your body to rest and check in on your routine to see where you may be able to change things. Often you will find yourself running on autopilot and doing things a certain way when there may be a simpler way to do them that enables you to expend less resources.
Quotes • “Recovery requires a different way of being, a different way of doing, a different mode of operation.” (3:35-3:40 | Sarah) • “A lot of burnout recovery happens in these spaces where you learn to sit with feeling uncomfortable.” (6:59-7:07 | Cait) • “When you are faced with the choice of guilt or resentment, choose guilt every time; because resentment eats at you.” (8:09-8:21 | Cait) • “The guilt isn't the problem. The avoidance of the guilt is the problem.” (10:09-10:12 | Cait) • “When we're burnt out, we have depleted our resources oftentimes, especially time and energy, and we're giving too much. And we're giving too much out to things that aren't refueling our resources. So pausing for a second and a break is a good time to do this, to take an inventory of what am I spending my time, money, and resources, energy on? And what can I stop giving to?” (16:09-16:40 | Sarah) • “Rest is receiving resources.” (17:52-17:55 | Cait) • “Any symptom from head to toe can be part of a burnout scenario.” (30:52-30:56 | Cait)
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XOXO, C
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| 18 Jun 2023 | #straightfromcait: How Childhood Trauma is Related to Burnout (Even if You Think You Have None) | 00:25:44 | |
Even if you do not think you have experienced childhood trauma, there are many ways that childhood experiences can impact your ability to regulate your emotions. Adverse childhood experiences or ACEs include both events that happened to you like abuse or neglect and events that you simply witnessed. Trauma impacts child brain development at an epigenetic level, causing deficiencies in the part of the brain responsible for executive functioning and emotion regulation. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, host Cait Donovan discusses the link between ACEs and burnout.
Adverse childhood experiences impact the brain in a way that is very similar to the effects seen from long term stress. These experiences have a direct impact on the neurochemicals and hormones that are needed for regulating stress. Since your stress system cannot function the way it is supposed to, you are more prone to burnout. This further demonstrates how burnout is systemic and not the fault of the individual.
If you have a higher ACEs score, such as one that is at a 4 or above, you are more likely to have a higher level of emotional dysregulation. Any adverse events that happened in your childhood physically changed the way your brain developed and caused you to be more susceptible to burnout. Remember to be gentle with yourself, because burnout is not your fault and it may take longer for you to recover from stress than someone with a lower ACEs score.
Quotes • “You don't have to be the ‘direct victim’ of abuse or neglect for it to affect you and your physical and emotional and mental health later on in life.” (6:54-7:06 | Cait) • “I truly believe that if we spend more time helping families to live healthier with one another that is the way we eliminate burnout long-term. That's the way we really hashtag end burnout culture.” (8:21-8:35 | Cait) • “There are interruptions to proper brain development when you experience adverse childhood experiences. These changes in brain development are nearly the same ones as we see with long term chronic stress.” (9:10-9:30 | Cait) • “Adverse childhood experiences have various effects on the actual neurochemicals and hormones of your stress response and the structures that they attach to, and that interrupts your stress cycle somehow.” (15:32-15:50 | Cait) • “If your stress response system is not working the way that it's supposed to, you are going to be more likely to burn out.” (23:24-23:33 | Cait) • “Burnout is not your fault. You do deserve better.” (25:04-25:06 | Cait)
Links Burnout Recovery Group Coaching Summer Cohort: https://bit.ly/summerFRIEDgroup https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/aces/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vitalsigns/aces/pdf/vs-1105-aces-H.pdf Supportive Research for a Correlation between ACEs and Burnout
XOXO, C
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| 05 May 2024 | Dr. Kristen Donnelly & Dr. Erin Hinson: The Culture of Burnout | 00:58:35 | |
“How are we not supposed to burn out? That’s what our culture wants us to do: produce, make and do until we can’t anymore,” says Dr. Erin Hinson who, with Dr. Kristen Donnelly, joins the FRIED podcast to discuss the origins of burnout culture in the United States. Early religious tenets have formed our attitude toward hard work and individualism, those tenets evolved into modern-day capitalism and the resulting false and damaging beliefs remain hard-baked into the American identity. Drawing from their bestselling book “The Culture of Burnout,” they’ll discuss the dangers of equating hard work with morality, basing one’s self worth on what they are able to produce and the myth of the lone conquering hero. While no one is immune from this type of social conditioning, female-identified and non-binary people tend to be targeted the most by this propaganda. Dr. Erin discusses caregiver burnout, the gender roles we perpetuate that we aren’t even aware of. Dr. Kristen points out the hypocrisy of American culture demanding we be individualistic while also telling us not to trust ourselves and the emotional bonds that are formed when we ask for help. We are not beholden to the stories our culture creates for us. With the tiny changes we make with each new day, we have the chance to write our own. Quotes
Links Connect with Dr. Kristen Donnelly & Dr. Erin Hinson: https://www.abbey-research.com http://www.instagram.com/abbeyresearch https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristendonnellyphd https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinhinsonphd Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv | |||
| 23 Aug 2020 | #straightfromcait: The 5 Words You Can Focus On To Help You Recover From Burnout - Straight From The Expert | 00:14:15 | |
This episode is being released on my birthday! YAYYAYAYYAYAY! Shout me out everywhere because I love my Birthday! :)
Especially tag me on IG: @cait_donovan Today I want to chat with you about the power of words. Often, in the first call with a new coaching client, there is a word that pokes itself out and decides that this is what we need to focus on during our work together. It happens intuitively, and it serves as great guidance as you heal. Today, I want to share 5 of them with you that happen to pop up fairly frequently! 1. Safety - there can be a lack of safety in your life even if you’re technically ‘safe’. If there are areas where you feel unsafe, your nervous system will remain stuck in fight or flight and it will be really hard for you to heal. This can mean living with someone who has explosive emotions, it can mean feeling that you don’t buy new stuff because you’re afraid you can’t care for it. 2. Owning Your Genius - this is true if you’re on the right path, but still need to allow yourself to grow to a bigger scale - staying small can burn you out!
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| 22 Jan 2023 | #straightfromcait: Burnout, Depression, Anxiety, and Medication | 00:18:07 | |
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Have you been feeling numb and mentally disconnected from your life? This is a very normal way to feel when you are experiencing burnout. There is a natural overlap that occurs between symptoms of burnout and symptoms of depression and anxiety. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait, host and burnout speaker, talks about the debate on whether to use mental health medications to treat the depression and anxiety symptoms that can occur with burnout.
Sometimes people worry that it would be cheating to use medications to treat their burnout. They think they should be able to do it all on their own and may feel uncomfortable about the concept of trying mental health medications. However, you are serving no one by refusing to utilize all the resources at your disposal. Sure, exercise and eating right and building a support system will all help you improve, but when you’re burnt out it is extremely difficult to engage with your life in that way. So if you have access to a therapist or a psychiatrist and are diagnosed with a mental health condition and your doctor wishes to prescribe medication for you, you should try it! It is not unfair to anyone for you to use the privileges that you have available to you in order for you to recover.
This is your permission to use any advantage and resource you have access to. Go see that therapist, get that prescription your insurance covers, do whatever you need to do in order to get yourself back on track. The more you heal from burnout the more you will be able to use that energy to give back and help others who are struggling. The more people collectively heal from burnout the more we can work together to end burnout culture.
Quotes • “In the working definition of burnout as it currently exists, which I personally find to be incomplete, it tells us that mental distance is about work. What I've found is that that sense of disconnectedness, that separation from life, occurs across the entire life spectrum.” (2:50-3:09 | Cait) • “This distance, this numbness, this inability to feel close or connected to people is often in a strange overlap place with depression.” (4:26-4:37 | Cait) • “I got caught up in this idea that most medication can be avoided, and a lot of people I know in the Chinese medicine world are pretty anti-prescription overall. Over time, I've learned to realize that this is not really my stance. I know the research that says that exercise, good food, proper rest and building a support community are just as good for depression as medication if not better, in some cases. But I also think that it is absolutely bonkers that we would ask someone who was depressed to try and do those things. You don't have the wherewithal when you're burnt out or depressed to engage in your life in that way. So if you need medication to be able to do the things that you need to do to improve your situation, and you've been diagnosed, and you've been offered a prescription, you should at least try it.” (5:47-6:40 | Cait) • “Do not try to hero your way through burnout by being tough and not relying on options that could make it easier for you.” (6:54-7:01 | Cait) • “The more that I use my privileges to my advantage, the more I can serve the people I'm here to serve, the better I feel, and the better my life becomes.” (10:30-10:42 | Cait) • “If you have access to making something better for yourself take it, use it, get your energy back, spend that money honey and get that prescription that's covered by your insurance. Take every single advantage that you have and then when you're feeling strong enough and fulfilled enough and happy enough, spread that sh*t around like wildfire.” (14:34-14:52 | Cait) • “We don't end burnout culture by making a massive culture shift. We end burnout culture by not participating in it anymore. We don't participate in it anymore when we heal. So use your advantages, every single one you've got, so that you can reach behind you and pull the next person up in any way that you can.” (17:09-17:32 | Cait)
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| 08 Sep 2024 | Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith: The 7 Types of Rest | 00:48:25 | |
Ready to leave burnout behind for good? Join UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start reclaiming your energy and joy. Apply today! https://bit.ly/unfryapply “We really need to break our limitations of what we say rest is,” says Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith, a board-certified internal medicine physician, internationally renowned thought leader on well-being, and author of the bestselling book “Sacred Rest: Recover Your Life, Renew Your Energy, Restore Your Sanity.” By overwhelming demand, Dr. Saundra joins the FRIED podcast to discuss the seven types of rest, which she explains is distinct from—but nonetheless essential to—sleep. She’ll explain how you can determine in which area of your life—from the mental, physical and emotional, to the sensorial, spiritual and creative—-you are experiencing the greatest rest deficit, and how you can begin to fill those empty buckets amidst your busy life, not around it. Along the way she reveals some surprising insights about the nature of rest and unpacks some of our most enduring misconceptions about it. Often what we think of as rest is really more work and when we think we are relaxing we are just indulging ourselves. She explains the difference between fitting in and true belonging, why trauma dumping can actually cause more stress, and why that watercolor painting class is not as creatively restoring as you may think it is. Over 250,000 people have discovered their personal rest deficit with Dr. Saundra’s help. Join today’s episode to learn how you can discover yours and start your journey toward overcoming burnout and living your best life. Quotes
Links Connect with Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith: https://www.drdaltonsmith.com/ https://www.instagram.com/drdaltonsmith https://www.linkedin.com/in/drdaltonsmith/ Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Burnout doesn’t have to be your story. Apply to UNFRIED: A Small Group Burnout Recovery Program and start your journey toward lasting recovery. Spots are limited—apply now! https://bit.ly/unfryapply | |||
| 13 Oct 2019 | Dr. Lisa Mascall: Let People Love You in order to Heal from Burnout | 00:33:59 | |
Dr. Lisa Mascall went from the US to Germany and back and that helped her transform from a Physical Therapist to an Acupuncturist. Inspired by Battlefield Acupuncture that she learned in Germany while treating the US Army for traumatic brain injuries, Dr. Mascall returned to the US and went back to school for a Master's in Chinese Medicine. Dr. Mascall shows us that following our inklings and filling our lives with things and people we love helps to protect us from burnout. Show Notes: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/dr-lisa-mascall Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 23 Jul 2023 | Mel Hopper Koppelman: Solving Complex Health Problems Related to Burnout | 00:54:56 | |
Mel Hopper Koppelman was so burned out that in spite of being longtime friends with host Cait Donovan, she did not immediately recognize her own connection with childhood trauma and burnout. Growing up labeled as a “gifted kid”, Mel developed blind spots regarding aspects of her neurological development that were lacking. As an adult, she developed complex chronic health issues. Because of her blind spots, it would be years before Mel realized the connection between her childhood experiences, her health issues, and burnout. Now, as the founder of Synthesis Health Lab, Mel helps other people who are struggling with chronic health issues to heal and live their best lives.
While some conditions of burnout are environmental, others can be linked to neurological development, adverse childhood experiences, and genetic factors. For Mel, much of her burnout and chronic health issues ended up being linked to uneven neurological development. Through testing, Mel discovered that she retained primitive reflexes, typically not seen beyond one year of age, that influenced nervous system dysfunction. When nervous system dysregulation stems from delayed or uneven neurological development, the resulting burnout needs to be approached differently. The same techniques that work for burnout for someone with an evenly developed brain will not work the same way for someone whose neurological development differs.
If you are struggling from complex, chronic health problems like fibromyalgia, gastrointestinal disorders, autoimmunity, or chronic fatigue, consider getting tested for retained primitive reflexes. Your nervous system may be dysregulated due to differences in your neurological development.
Quotes • “We might be having a difficult time understanding development because we are underdeveloped ourselves.” (8:06 | Cait) • “One of the things that goes along with certain types of developmental issues, like we see with a lot of neurodiversity, is a characteristic unevenness of skills.” (9:52 | Mel) • “Things can run in families that are not necessarily genetic.” (15:10 | Mel) • “When we have adverse childhood events…and development is not unfolding optimally, then those primitive reflexes, instead of getting integrated, which means that the brain matures and kind of stops them from being active,…those reflexes are still there.” (26:59 | Mel)
Links Connect with Mel Hopper Koppelman: https://essays.synthesishealth.co/ https://www.instagram.com/synthesishealth.co/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/melhopperkoppelman/ https://synthesishealth.co/join-us https://www.drrobertmelillo.com/
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XOXO, C
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| 29 Dec 2024 | #straightfromcait: 3 Ways To Add Ease To Your Day Without Changing Your Circumstances | 00:07:21 | |
Burnout Recovery works better with support. UNFRIED is our small group (5 people max!) coaching program to help guide you through your recovery. Apply now! [http://bit.ly/unfried] “I want you to forcibly slow yourself down,” says Cait on this #straightfromcait episode of FRIED where she offers three tips—and a special bonus—to help you create more ease throughout your day, without taking away from any of your responsibilities or plans. These are short, simple yet effective ways to check in with yourself physically, mentally and emotionally to eliminate unnecessary tension and make life’s tasks more bearable. Cait will share which parts of the body to focus on to lower your overall stress response and signal to your vagus nerve that you’re OK. She’ll explain why slow grooming reminds us that we’re safe and how we can cut down on the false sense of urgency that drives most of us throughout our days. Life is busy, and no one can expect to be relaxed all day every day. But taking a few extra minutes to incorporate these tips into your daily routine will do wonders to make you feel more relaxed, at peace and at ease as you tackle your tasks. Quotes
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| 09 Jul 2023 | Heather Hansen: Self Advocacy Makes Your Burnout Recovery Faster | 00:52:17 | |
Heather Hansen’s burnout, like unfortunately so many others, landed her in the hospital. Her stress levels had become so extreme due to her career as a defense attorney that Heather’s body responded with a severe allergic reaction. Afterward, Heather realized she needed to start advocating for herself with the same level of compassion, love, and loyalty that she had for her clients in the courtroom. Now, a Best-Selling author and speaker, Heather teaches others how to self-advocate through mastering the art of the ask and convincing their inner juries.
In a courtroom, both sides present the exact same evidence from different perspectives. It is up to the jury to consider that evidence and choose which side to support. The same is true for your inner jury. When you start looking for evidence of positive things about yourself, your inner jury will feel more confident about trusting you. This will make it easier for you to advocate for yourself. Give yourself permission to pursue what you want for now, knowing that it will change at some point. Once you know what it is you want, then it is time to ask for help or accommodations out loud and with delight. In order to ask effectively, you must speak with compassion, curiosity, and credibility. Approach your ask from the other person’s perspective instead of your own by asking what they want and speaking to it.
Recovering from burnout requires that you be able to ask for help when you need it. Self-advocacy can be particularly challenging for perfectionists, but it does not have to be. When you can ask for what you need from a place of compassion rather than resentment, you are much more likely to get a ‘yes’.
Quotes • “What I decided to do was to start advocating for myself the way that I advocated for my clients in the courtroom.” (5:02-5:09 | Heather) • “You need to know what you want. You need to ask for it out loud and with delight. And you need to master the ask.” (8:55-9:02 | Heather) • “You've got to give your inner jury a different story.” (11:23-11:11:25 | Heather) • “For those of us who got to where we thought we wanted to be, and then it wasn't the right place for us anymore…that's okay. It just means that you are meant for more.” (13:29-13:42 | Heather) • “If you are asking with resentment, you are very unlikely to get the things that you want.” (16:27-16:34 | Heather) • “In the courtroom, both sides have the same evidence. And both sides use the same evidence to prove different things. So you need to decide what story you want to support.” (19:10-19:21 | Heather) • “If you're struggling with advocating for yourself, make it about something else…Sometimes if you can externalize it, it makes it easier to start advocating.” (48:10-48:37 | Heather)
Links Connect with Heather Hansen: https://www.instagram.com/anelegantwarrior/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/heather-hansen-84243512/ https://view.flodesk.com/pages/64710dde8533b6ba4f709de9
XOXO, C
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| 17 Jul 2022 | #straightfromcait: How Do I Know if I’m Recovering From Burnout or Stuck on the Burnout Cycle | 00:12:38 | |
During your burnout recovery, it may feel difficult to tell whether you are truly on the right path to recovery or still trapped in the burnout cycle. You will have ups and downs that may cause you to feel that your recovery is slipping back toward burnout again. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains five signs to watch for that will let you know that you are on the right path. Burnout recovery can feel a bit like a seesaw with all its ups and downs, but that is perfectly natural and nothing to be concerned about. The goal of recovery is to start having more moments of feeling like yourself interspersed with fewer moments of feeling burnt out. You will start to feel more like your old pre-burnout self more frequently, begin enjoying old hobbies that you were unable to enjoy while burnt out, and experience less issues with brain fog and memory lapses. You’ll still feel tired, but instead of feeling depleted and empty, you should begin to feel satisfied and good about your day. When you start to realize that you’re laughing more and getting more enjoyment out of your daily life, that’s when you know you are on the right path to burnout recovery. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how to tell the difference between burnout recovery and being stuck in the same toxic cycle of burnout. Learn what signs to look out for to know whether you are on the right track with your recovery. Quotes · “Recovery feels a whole lot like just simply feeling more normal again, interspersed with moments that feel like you're still totally burnt out. What we're looking for is longer and more frequent feelings of normal, of your norm, your old norm, your pre burnout norm and shorter, less frequent moments of feeling burnt out.” (01:27-01:52 | Cait) · “Having a down day does not necessarily mean burnout.” (3:56-3:59 | Cait) · “If you find yourself finding moments of amusement and joy during your days, then you know you're on the right track.” (6:15-6:22 | Cait) · “The sign that you're recovering is that you're still tired at the end of the day, but it feels like a good, satisfied tired, not a depleted, empty, crappy, tired.” (7:06-7:20 | Cait) Links https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/resources https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah https://caitdonovan.as.me/freecall XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 25 Sep 2022 | #straightfromsarah: Can High Sensitivity Decrease as We Heal from Burnout? | 00:20:17 | |
Highly sensitive people often assume they are simply wired that way from birth and that there is nothing that can be done to change their sensitivity. In this week’s #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED Burnout Coach Sarah Vosen discusses changes in her sensitivity levels that she has experienced since recovering from burnout and the potential for negative effects of high sensitivity to lessen as the nervous system heals. Chronic stress can cause our nervous system to get stuck in a feedback loop of more and more stress that ultimately leads to burnout. If you already have a higher level of sensitivity, burnout is going to be an even more likely result of chronic stress and troubling experiences. Sarah explains the six defining characteristics of highly sensitive people and how these characteristics have diminished throughout her healing journey. These characteristics are needing more time and space for processing experiences, differential susceptibility, overstimulation, empathy, emotional responsiveness, and awareness of subtle stimuli. Although some aspects of high sensitivity may not entirely go away upon healing from burnout, there is strong evidence to suggest that as healing occurs, certain characteristics decrease. Tune into this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to learn more about each of the six characteristics of highly sensitive people and to discover how they relate to your own journey as you are healing from burnout. Quotes · “If we have had troubled lives, we are more susceptible to feeling the things we deem negative stronger and are prone to more anxiety and depression than others. But if we've had an easier life, we are more susceptible to feeling the things we've labeled as positive like joy and happiness more strongly.” (7:43-8:00 | Sarah) · “When you step back and look at your life, has the course of it had an overall ongoing positive trend or continuously negative one? Since we're all here and fried, perhaps the latter resonates most which would qualify us as an example of differential susceptibility.” (8:28-8:44 | Sarah) · “There's a part of our brain that determines whether our nervous system responds sympathetically or parasympathetically due to our present circumstances. It's called the reticular activating system and it's a part of the brainstem.” (9:48-10:00 | Sarah) · “When we're chronically stressed, this part of our brainstem gets stuck firing the sympathetic pathways, keeping us in the stress loop, which fries our nervous system and leads to the burnout we have all experienced. In order to stop this cycle, we need to give our brain location info about our body and space.” (10:15-10:31 | Sarah) · “In my recovery process, it's now easier to discern what I can control and what I am responsible for taking care of. I still can't witness a struggling human or plant right in front of me and not want to help. The difference is that I have awareness of my savior tendencies and I know how to ask people if they want my help instead of offering unsolicited advice.” (13:07-13:29 | Sarah) · “I've realized that as much as I used to feel validated by the idea that my high sensitivity was just how I was wired and wasn't something that I needed to fix, I am currently pleasantly surprised and quite relieved that the hardest parts of being highly sensitive have minimized.” (18:36-18:51 | Sarah) Links Holistic Biomechanics classes: https://transformationspdx.com Highly sensitive person website: https://hsperson.com Sarah's contact: sarahvosen@gmail.com Book a call with Sarah: https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 16 Jul 2023 | #straightfromcait: Coping Mechanisms and Burnout: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly | 00:16:42 | |
Coping mechanisms are something that you use every single day, probably without even realizing it. These coping mechanisms start to develop as soon as you are born, forming based on your relationship with your primary caregiver. Depending on how that relationship goes, you form one of four attachment styles, three of which can make you more prone to burnout later in life. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, host and burnout aficionado Cait Donovan explains what coping mechanisms are and how to tell whether your current coping mechanisms would be considered adaptive or maladaptive.
Pretty much all coping mechanisms can be either adaptive or maladaptive depending on the intention behind them. Sometimes, even if a coping mechanism is not technically healthy, it may still be useful for your survival in the moment. When a coping mechanism is maladaptive, it means that while it may help you temporarily, it also has the potential for consequences that could be worse than the initial problem you were trying to solve. Examples of maladaptive coping mechanisms include rumination, substance abuse, self harm, daydreaming, hypervigilance, and disengagement. Adaptive coping mechanisms are those that are considered both helpful and healthy in the long run, such as emotion regulation, speaking with a therapist or a friend, and intentional forced distraction.
While healing from trauma and burnout, you will engage many coping mechanisms. In the same way that your burning out was not your fault, your default coping mechanisms are also not your fault. They were determined long before you had any say in what they were. Instead of demonizing behaviors that were helpful for you in the past for being maladaptive, look at how you can update them to be more healthy going forward and leave behind the ones that are no longer serving you.
Quotes • “A coping mechanism is an action or a behavior that you engage in when you need to overcome a difficulty.” (1:37-1:44 | Cait) • “The initial response of your primary caregiver to those needs that you are trying to convey is what guides how you will eventually long term create your particular style of coping.” (2:03-2:16 | Cait) • “Children who form secure attachments go through life with more self confidence, more resilience, and more ability to trust the people around them.” (2:39-2:49 | Cait) • “Most coping mechanisms can be adaptive or maladaptive depending on the intentionality with which they are used.” (12:00-12:06 | Cait)
Links https://positivepsychology.com/coping/ https://positivepsychology.com/maladaptive-coping/
Coach with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Coach with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Hire Cait for Your Event: https://caitdonovan.as.me/inquiry Join the FB Group: https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast
XOXO, C
If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait
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| 15 Nov 2020 | #straightfromcait: Cait Breaks Down The Top 3 Burnout Myths For You | 00:09:44 | |
Hi Fried Fans!
It’s Cait, comin’ atcha with another #straightfromcait episode! We are close to winding up Season 2 of FRIED The Burnout Podcast. You’ve got this week’s sfc and then next week, I have the owner of incann CBD products on to talk to us about CBD and burnout (I loved it so much that I became an affiliate for her brand.. So while the episode isn’t sponsored, I’ll be sharing about why I love their products :)) and then I will be starting Season 3 after a short 1 week break around Thanksgiving. We’re starting Season 3 off with a bang and having a chat with a codependency coach. This is a massive topic and I’ll be excited for you to get that info to help you unwind some unhelpful patterns you might find yourself in.
This week, I want to talk to you about burnout myths. There’s a lot of them, but we’re just going to go over 3 big ones. You MAY have heard me mention this a time or 5 on the podcast, but I think they need to be repeated as often as possible and as clearly as possible so that we can collectively change our mind about these ideas. Doing so means that we’ll be more apt to notice burnout and therefore more apt to take it seriously and choose to heal from it.
Let’s jump in
Burnout myth #1 If you work in something that you have a passion for, you’ll never burn out. Or, if you do what you love, you’ll never work a day in your life. I AM BEGGING YOU. PLEASE STOP THIS NONSENSE. If you have tendencies that lead to burnout and are in culture that promotes burnout, you can burnout no matter how much you love your job or no matter how much you really DO want to make a difference in people’s lives.
Burnout is not a result of a passion deficiency.
The problems with this thinking are that it prevents people that are passionate about their jobs from recognizing their burnouts and it makes everyone who knows they are burnt out question their passions. Your passion isn’t the problem. It’s also not the solution.
Burnout myth #2 Burnout only happens to weak people. Oh boy, I hate this one. There are, for reasons that scientists can’t figure out, people that are more resilient than others. They also can’t agree on a how much adversity or stress increases resiliency and how much breaks it down - because it’s different in each person. Everyone has a threshold for how much they can take and that threshold has nothing to do with your strength. In fact, the strongest among us often carry more than our allotted load, therefore diminishing our resilience and leading us to burnout. Being resilient and increasing resiliency doesn’t make you STRONGER. It makes you more adaptable, more agile, more flexible. Your threshold is a due to a combination of your genetics, your current health, your current environment, the health of your childhood environment, the number of trauma adaptations you have, the amount of support you have, and and and and and. There are so many factors in play. It’s not about weakness, it’s about systems that get overloaded due to factors that are very often outside of the systems control. You can book your call at bit.ly/callcait. CBD: https://incann.com/ CODE: FRIED Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 17 Mar 2024 | #straightfromcait: Navigating Leadership Burnout: A Guide For Business Owners and Leaders | 00:17:15 | |
Hey, FRIED fam! On today’s episode of The Burnout Podcast, Cait is answering written questions from bosses and leaders, asking how to deal with burnout while balancing all of the other concerns of their company and employees. How can you maintain a healthy workplace culture while recovering from burnout? How do you deal with employees who punch up out of frustration? What if restructuring the business to promote a healthier workplace results in layoffs? First, Cait makes the distinction between what is and is not a leader’s responsibility. It is their responsibility to implement, enforce and model a healthy and productive workplace culture. It is not their job however, to fix it individually. Hiring an outside party is essential regardless of cost. She reveals one of the biggest drivers of employee burnout, its actual physical effects, and the point at which leaders may just need to get over themselves. As a boss, you’ll learn #straightfromcait how to positively influence company culture so that everyone wins. Quotes
Links Connect with Cait: Initial Call with Cait: bit.ly/callcait Initial Call with Sarah: bit.ly/callsarahv Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm | |||
| 23 Oct 2022 | #straightfromcait: Are You Exhausted Trying To Meet Other People's Assumed Expectations? | 00:13:29 | |
Are you always trying to meet other people’s expectations, even when those expectations may not be completely clear? Unclear expectations for a role, whether that be in relation to a job or a relationship, can reduce feelings of psychological safety and increase the potential for burnout. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains the research behind why external expectations and role ambiguity play a role in burnout and how to ask for clarity when it is lacking.
When you are having to guess at someone’s expectations, you will end up feeling on edge and pushing yourself harder and harder trying to reach that unspecified goal. Research shows that role ambiguity, or a lack of clarity in your job role, can come into play not only at work, but also within relationships at home and with friends. When you are able to predict how another person will react and set up expectations for yourself relative to that predicted outcome, your feelings of safety will increase and your risk of burnout will decrease. By simply having a conversation that focuses on clarifying and setting expectations, you can improve overall communication and increase your own internal feelings of safety.
It is exhausting trying to meet expectations all the time, especially if the expectations you are trying to meet are unclear or simply a guess on your part. In order to gain clarity, improve your relationships, and reduce overall stress, it is important to communicate effectively. Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how to determine other’s actual expectations. Learn why assuming other’s expectations can lead to burnout and how to ask for clarity.
Maslach et. al. (2001). Job burnout. Annu Rev Psychol. 52. 397-422.
Quotes · “If you are feeling unclear about someone's expectations, and you are guessing at them, and you never quite get feedback on whether or not you're hitting the target, you're always going to feel on edge. And you're always going to push for doing things a little bit harder, a little bit more intense, to a better degree, to a higher degree. It'll never stop because you don't know when you've met the expectation.” (3:54-4:20 | Cait) · “Burnout recovery happens when we increase our feelings of safety internally and externally.” (5:41-5:46 | Cait) · “You are more likely to experience burnout while also experiencing role ambiguity, a lack of clarity in your job role.” (7:06-7:14 | Cait) · “Sharing with someone what your thinking is behind the situation gives them a better idea of how you're looking at it and what's happening in your world, so that they can respond appropriately.” (10:33-10:44 | Cait)
Links
https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com https://facebook.com/groups/friedtheburnoutpodcast
XOXO, C
If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait
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| 01 Jan 2023 | BONUS EPISODE: The Burnout Panel Talks Quiet Quitting | 00:25:31 | |
Today, Cait reports live from The Burnout Panel. She joins Vanessa Zamy, Audrey Holst, Aileen Axtmayer, Dr. Sandra Lewis, and Dr. Sharon Grossman to talk about quiet quitting. These experts in the burnout field weigh in on what they believe is causing quiet quitting to be so rampant and the changes business leaders can make to help their employees feel included, safe, happy, and valued.
Quiet quitting is often a response to overwhelm and can be a coping mechanism for burnout. If your body does not feel safe in your work environment, you are likely going to start to disengage. It is also important to evaluate your current interests and values and see that they align with your role. When people choose to quiet-quit it tends to be due to no longer feeling aligned with their work. To get a handle on quiet quitting, first you need to regenerate your nervous system, so that it is not always on high alert for danger. In order for employees to feel valued, leaders must pay attention and create a safe, fun, and inclusive work environment. If employees start to feel undervalued, they will become resentful and more likely to engage in quiet quitting behaviors.
quiet quitting is not always a choice, sometimes it is a natural reaction to burnout. When it is not being used as a coping mechanism and is instead a conscious choice, it is important for leaders to really pay attention to the work environment. If employees are actively choosing to disengage, they likely feel resentment for some perceived unfairness and they may even feel completely out of alignment with the work they are doing. When employees and employers understand the causes behind quiet quitting, changes can be made to make a better work environment for all.
Quotes • “There are two questions that the body is always scanning for is, am I safe, and do I belong. And this combination of perfectionism with an individual and within an organization can create a bit of a survival situation where people are showing up to work, their bodies are feeling like they are walking into a tiger's cage every single day, their body is getting flooded with cortisol on an everyday basis. And that is bouncing off of coworkers, and it's creating a really tough environment, which is creating those people who are starting to disengage out of survival.” (2:12-2:42 | Audrey) • “When you can create space as an employer or as an employee to really examine these parts of yourself and understand where you're at with each of them, you can then use that framework to understand where your work might not be in alignment anymore, and what you can do to really shift and feel like your values, interests, personality and skills are aligned with the work that you're doing.” (5:29-5:51 | Aileen) • “Achievement is what will allow you to feel pleasure once you've put in the work.” (7:33-7:41 | Dr. Sharon) • “Resentment and quiet quitting have one major thing in common and that is a feeling or perception of unfairness.” (8:34-8:42 | Cait) • “With support we can create conversations that allow resentment to be explored in a positive and beneficial way. Resentments turn into boundaries, and boundaries help protect us.” (9:17-9:28 | Cait) • “The first thing is to start with regenerating and rejuvenating our nervous system so that then we can start to hear our creativity again.” (11:15-11:21 | Dr. Sandra) • “Whether you're leading an entire business, or you're leading a team in a department, or you're about to become a leader, and you want to do it better than your current boss is, remember rewards, refreshments and recreation. Quiet quitting is preventable.” (13:51-14:04 | Vanessa) • “Quiet quitting is a coping mechanism for burnout when it is used not as a choice but as a natural reaction. So I think we have to separate choosing quiet quitting to protect yourself and quiet quitting because you're so burned out that you have no other choice and you're just trying to make it through your day and not get fired.” (14:48-15:09 | Cait)
Links Connect with The Burnout Panel: Aileen Axtmayer https://www.linkedin.com/in/aileenaxtmayer/ Cait Donovan https://www.linked.com/in/caitdonovan Sandra Lewis https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandraylewis/ Audrey Holst https://www.linkedin.com/in/audrey-holst/ Sharon Grossman https://www.linkedin.com/in/sharongrossman/ Vanessa Zamy https://www.linkedin.com/in/zamyvanessa/
XOXO, C
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| 09 Feb 2020 | Annie McDonnell: Busting Through Burnout Associated Analysis Paralysis | 00:45:16 | |
Annie McDonnell stayed in a job that used up all her energy for 18 years and it wasn't until she left that she realized how much energy she was using at the office day by day just to cope with emotional tension. Following a pair of illnesses in her family, she gave herself permission to explore her curiosity and found that by allowing herself to try, she found out how much energy passion and purpose provide. Now, Annie practices acupuncture in NYC, at her office: Joy Alchemy Acupuncture and her services include Vibrational Facials that combine acupuncture, sound healing, and crystal healing to give you that less wrinkled glow that we all need after dealing with the stress and pollution of the city! . . . . . Hi! It's Cait, host of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast. (all show notes are at that link ;)) My favorite thing about this podcast is listening to your feedback. I love hearing, 'I stumbled onto this podcast while looking for something else.. every episode has me nodding like a bobblehead. A must listen' And 'I was listening to the interview with Donna Steward and SUDDENLY everything made sense ... I cried tears of recognition' Be sure to add your voice to the mix by leaving a review and joining the conversation on Instagram! Talk to you soon! Cait Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 26 Jan 2020 | Lisa Fitzpatrick: Honor Your Inner Compass To Guide You Away From Burnout | 00:51:51 | |
LISA'S STORY: In 2005, I found myself as a solo parent with 2 young sons, lined up in a welfare queue and completely shattered because I couldn't understand how life could have gone so wrong. I felt so alone and without guidance that I made a decision that if I was ever going to get my life together, I would become a worthy guide to other women. FIND LISA: http://www.lisafitzpatrick.com.au Cait's Notes: This conversation with Lisa touches deep into the expectations about what it means to be fulfilled as a woman according to society and then later according to our inner worlds. Lisa talks about her book Healing the Heart Of Your Business and her theories on embracing your feminine energy so that you can also embrace the masculine. We talked about the heroine’s journey, the dark night of the soul, and being stuck in gilded cages. She said at one point: Imagine if I had been the woman who stayed [in my privileged comfort], I felt as if I was in the wrong life”. How many people have woken up and said to themselves: Is this my life? How many people have fulfilled their duties only to find themselves wondering if this result is actually what they wanted in the first place? Our discussion also came around to talking about reattaching to our innate wisdom, our inner compasses, and learning to drop the outside guidance to reach inside and find out WHO we are, WHY we are, and WHERE we're going next. And do you know where we're going? To ourselves. To our desires. To our strengths. We're ending the burnout cycle because we're having these conversations and doing this together. Lisa asks, during this episode, that you remember these few things: You are SO loved Your inner compass still works Aging is vitalizing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 20 Mar 2020 | #straightfromcait: Sitting In the Muck with Your Emotions (an excerpt from The Bouncebackability Factor) | 00:15:11 | |
I've been told in the past week that I'm: overreacting, posting anxious posts, a sea of calm - all from different people. But, I, like the rest of you am a very average human who just found out that life is on lockdown. I have flip-flopped between emotions and spent many anxious days before I found some calm in the new current reality. After an IG live where I read to you from my new book: The Bouncebackability Factor to share an exercise that I thought might be helpful right now, a bunch of you reached out asking me to put it in a format that would be easily accessible all the time, so, I recorded it for you :) Campaign donations to get The Bouncebackability Factor published are being accepted and if you found this episode helpful, please consider supporting the campaign. You can find it here: http://www.ifundwomen.com/projects/bouncebackability-factor We're in this together. There's no correct timeline. You're allowed to process in the way that feels best and safest to YOU. This episode will help you when you know it's time to let go but you aren't sure how. I call it 'Sitting in the Muck' and it's a life skill everyone should have - and now, you do. XOXO C Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 02 Aug 2020 | Khadijah Tishan Washington: A Black Therapist Shares Her View on Spirituality, Racial Trauma, and Committing To Your Own Healing | 01:08:02 | |
In today’s episode, we’re talking to Khadijah Tishan Washington MSW, LCSW , a licensed therapist who credits her own creative and chaotic childhood with inspiring her passion for social work. Khadijah began her journey of service and self- healing in child and family mental health. Her latest book, ‘REAL’ is a memoir of healing and deeper awareness that directs you to serve the most vulnerable- the people serving the neglected, abused, and marginalized. Khadijah describes this journey of serving and self-healing as ‘REAL’.
During our conversation, she shares snippets from her own life, her childhood and her lived experience with racism in America and generational trauma it inflicts, what makes her so passionate and how all of that has informed her work over the years
I truly enjoyed speaking with Khadijah and having this extremely important conversation continue. I’d love to know: What is one thing that stuck out for you from this conversation? What’s your biggest takeaway? Both Khadijah and I would love to know, so please share and tag us on social media so we can support and cheer for you!
Connect with Cait Website: www.caitdonovan.com Instagram: www.instagram.com/friedtheburnoutpodcast Pre-Order My Book: https://bit.ly/bouncebackorder Connect with Khadijah Website: https://khadijahtishan.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/khadijahtishan/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/khadijahtishan/
Xo Cait
P.S. Do something to care for yourself this week and book a FREE call with me! Initial calls last 35 minutes and are a great way to kickstart your burnout recovery. Book your call at caitdonovan.as.me/free. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 10 Nov 2019 | Aisling Fitzgibbon: Moving From Fear To Trust | 00:51:22 | |
Aisling Fitzgibbon, Holistic Nutritionist Coach has studied many energetic healing modalities through the years. After being diagnosed with depression and medicated at a young age, Aisling went through a few rounds of burnout before really deciding to heal when she met another holistic nutritionist who taught her to view her body and her energy differently. That, with guidance from her mother about releasing the need for a specific outcome, created a space of trust that allowed Aisling to heal. She now teaches others to do the same through her membership, Energy is Your Currency. Show Notes: www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/aisling-fitzgibbon Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 21 Feb 2021 | #straightfromcait: Is it a Burnout Relapse or Have You Been Burnt Out This Whole Time? | 00:09:02 | |
Hey FRIED Fans! I had an amazing question from a fan on IG a couple weeks ago that I wanted to answer. Shout out to @vitalitahealth on Instagram for this great Q! She asked what to do when you find yourself in a burnout relapse. When someone asks a really great question, I always like to let it roll around in my head for awhile before I decide on an answer. After rolling this one around for a few weeks, I have a counter question: Is it a burnout relapse, or have you been burnt out this whole time? When I wrote The Bouncebackability Factor (which you can snag on amazon if you haven’t gotten it yet!), I wrote that I burnt out two separate times. Since writing it, I’ve realized that I didn’t actually burn out two separate times, I was actually weaving in and out of burnout for 6 or 7 years. There were times that I felt better, for sure, but there weren’t too many times that I felt safe when I felt bad. When I say that, what I mean is - every time I felt bad or had a down day, I was nervous that it would last forever. I judged myself for feeling that way again. I thought about all the things I did to help myself and would get really discouraged that I was having a bad day. Wasn’t I doing enough? Why wasn’t it working? Why couldn’t I control this? Don’t I know better by now? Let’s compare and contrast this with what happens now when I have a bad day (because bad days still happen, I’m human! Burnout recovery does not guarantee you to have #allgooddaysallthetime). Now, when I have a bad day, I feel secure in my ability to get the care I need to get back to neutral within a decent amount of time. Sometimes that means some type of grooming self care, sometimes that means getting an acupuncture appointment or a reiki appointment, sometimes it means shutting down social media for a few days, sometimes it means chatting with friends or visiting family. I hope this was helpful, my beautiful FRIED Fans. As I wrap up this week’s episode, I want to remind you that subscribes, reviews, and shares make FRIED’s world go round! I am so grateful for the support you show FRIED week in an d week out! Listen to this review: @campchristy stays: This podcast is the greatest gift. I am in the throws of burnout and have just now really accepted it. And that it is physical, not just being tired and sick. Thank you. P.S. I listen to podcasts all the time. This is the first written review I’ve given. It has impacted me that much. If you want your review read on FRIED, be sure to leave the review, screenshot it and email it to me at friedtheburnoutpodcast @ gmail . com! Until next time! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 03 Apr 2022 | Dr. Kristin Neff: Self Compassion, Being Human, and Living with an Open Heart | 00:51:08 | |
“An open heart can hold everything,” shares Dr. Kristin Neff, Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, self-compassion research pioneer, and author of bestselling novel Self-Compassion. Dr. Neff developed the Mindful Self-Compassion program along with her colleague, Chris Germer, which is now taught internationally. She turned to self-compassion to help her overcome burnout. Dr. Neff’s burnout came when she was being a caregiver for her autistic son when he was young. She explains that learning to have self-compassion allowed her to set boundaries, recognize her intrinsic value, and focus on the connection between herself and the world around her. Along her journey, she conducted the first empirical studies ever done in self-compassion research and is recognized as one of the most influential researchers in psychology worldwide. Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Dr. Kristin Neff about self-compassion and how to open yourself up to conquering difficult situations and painful moments. Learn about how to reclaim your worth and start setting boundaries. Quotes • “One of the things that’s challenging for women especially is we’re raised to be people pleasers. We’re uncomfortable saying no because we’re afraid people won’t like us, learning to draw boundaries and to say no, and to say ‘you know, I’m sorry if you don’t like me, but my worth doesn’t stem from whether or not you like me. My worth is intrinsic because I’m a human being who is worthy of respect just like every other human being.’ That allows us to draw boundaries which is a really big thing for reducing burnout culture.” (17:56-18:41) • “All life is intrinsically valuable. When we’re talking about human beings, every life is worthy. And who we are is totally, inextricably intertwined with the rest of life.” (31:01-31:32) • “If your heart is open enough, there can even be joy in moments of real suffering. The joy isn’t in the contents of what’s happening, it’s in just having an open heart.” (35:09-35:22) • “An open heart can hold everything. That’s where we should be investing in. The more we focus on ‘how can I open my heart in this moment, the happier we’ll be.'” (48:17-48:38) Links https://www.instagram.com/neffselfcompassion/ XOXO, C If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 02 Nov 2020 | The 12 Days Of Boundary Season (a song) | 00:06:44 | |
It's BOUNDARY SEASON! Yep, that's right. The season that all your boundaries get pushed and 2020 has already pushed them enough, so they might be feeling like electric fences this year! ;) I wrote you a song all to tell you that we start transforming you into a Boundary Building Badass in just 12 short days. Sign ups are open now for The Build Better Boundaries course, it WAS a DIY course but on popular demand, I'm doing a LIVE version with a FB Group and Live Q&A's with yours truly to help you along. After the year we've all had, it's the least I could do. Sign ups are here: https://caitdonovan.com/build-better-boundaries-live Join us. It's gonna be a blast. Like this song. :) <3 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices | |||
| 23 Jan 2022 | Dr. Brooke Kalanick: Hormone Balance, Normalizing Stress, and Being Human | 00:53:29 | |
“That was a really, really low point for someone who should’ve known better. I was a hormone expert, and I completely destroyed my hormones,” shares Dr. Brooke Kalanick, licensed naturopathic doctor, author, and host of popular podcast, The Dr. Brooke Show. As someone who suffers from PCOS (polycystic ovary syndrome) herself, Brooke specializes in helping women identify the root cause of their hormone imbalances and get back to feeling better with targeted diet and lifestyle changes. On today’s episode, Brooke discusses her personal burnout story and how it continues to inform her day-to-day life.
Several factors contributed to the height of Brooke’s burnout. On the one hand, she was co-authoring a book about fat loss, which prompted her to enter into a damaging and dysfunctional diet and exercise cycle. Combined with a jarring personal attack in an Amazon review and an untimely injury, Brooke suddenly found herself losing the sense of balance she had worked so hard to build. Today, Brooke explains to listeners how she overcame her burnout and gained a newfound sense of authenticity and self-awareness in the process.
Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Dr. Brooke Kalanick about the impacts of stress, particularly on women’s hormones, and how hormone disturbances can lead to significant health issues in all areas of the body. Hear Dr. Brooke’s story of facing her greatest fear head on and coming out on the other side better for it.
Quotes • “That was a really really low point for someone who should’ve known better. Right? I was a hormone expert and I completely destroyed my hormones.” (06:10-06:16) • “I think with the wellness world, and the sound bytes on social media, and the way functional medicine is talked about, we're always after the root cause. Which in theory is great. But if you’re in a place where you’re burnt out, you’ve gone through all this stuff, time has gone on, you’ve ignored symptoms for a long time. You don’t have one root cause. ” (11:45-12:15) • “There’s some real value in facing your biggest fear and then having to look at like why on earth was that my biggest fear?” (17:48-17:54) • “For me, I had certain values going into that first experience and they were more recognition, more money, more success, all of these things. I very much have different goals now. Obviously being a mother was something that changed…there was I think a place for me to rein myself in better.” (26:19-26:46) • “I think I learned the hard way that it's better to just share my pain and my experience and hope that less people will think I'm perfect and more people will feel like, ‘Oh, she understands me.’” (27:37-27:47) • “Things are stressful, because you care about them. For better or for worse, whether it's being driven by an insecurity or you actually love your child or your husband or your family, you wouldn't be stressed out if you didn't care. So, I think the first thing to recognize is that it's okay that you're stressed….Now are you going to deal with it?” (29:11-29:30)
Links www.instagram.com/betterbydrbrooke https://www.linkedin.com/in/brookekalanick/ https://betterbydrbrooke.com/5-pillars-opt-in/
https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values
XOXO, C
If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait
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| 17 May 2020 | Dr. Valerie Rein: Break out of Burnout Jail by Creating Space for Your Most Authentic Self | 00:56:37 | |
In this week’s episode we are speaking to Dr. Valerie Rein, a highly sought after speaker and trainer who has helped thousands of women. She discovered Patriarchy Stress Disorder (PSD) and created the only science-backed system for helping women achieve their ultimate success, happiness, and fulfillment by healing the generational trauma of patriarchal oppression. She holds an EdM in Psychological Counseling from Columbia University and a PhD in Psychology from the Institute of Transpersonal Psychology. Her bestselling book, “Patriarchy Stress Disorder: The Invisible Inner Barrier to Women’s Happiness and Fulfillment” and her cutting-edge programs have helped thousands of women shift from surviving to thriving and master the game of "How good can it get?"
Join us as we talk about the ways in which PSD showed up in her life, the lessons she’s learnt from doing this work, how PSD and burnout are interconnected and how we can start to turn this around, one woman at a time, starting with ourselves.
LINKS: Instagram: www.instagram.com/drvalerierein/ www.drvalerie.com/book-resources/ for Dr. Valerie’s Book Resources XOXO C
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