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04 Apr 2025 | Ep 61: Assessing AI Literacy, Readiness, and Maturity with Eryn Peters and Iwo Szapar | 00:54:46 | |
Bob Pulver catches up with Erin Peters and Iwo Szapar to explore the evolving landscape of AI literacy and their AI Maturity Index (AIMI). They discuss the importance of understanding how AI is being utilized in the workplace, the development of AIMI to benchmark AI readiness, and the STEP framework for implementing AI strategies. The conversation hits on the distinction between automation and augmentation, challenges orgs face in measuring productivity, and the need for a more nuanced understanding of AI's value proposition. Bob and his guests discuss the multifaceted aspects of AI adoption, how to measure progress, how to gauge maturity levels, and the importance of benchmarking. They explore the evolving landscape of AI skills in hiring, cultural shifts towards AI integration, and the necessity of responsible innovation. The dialogue also touches on the governance and ethical considerations surrounding AI, as well as global perspectives on its implementation, particularly in regions like Saudi Arabia.
Keywords
AI literacy, AI maturity index, future of work, automation, augmentation, productivity, change management, digital transformation, workforce development, AI strategy, AI adoption, organizational maturity, competitive benchmarking, AI skills, hiring trends, cultural shifts, responsible innovation, AI governance, global AI perspectives
Takeaways
AI literacy is crucial for the future of work.
The AI maturity index helps organizations benchmark their AI readiness.
The STEP framework simplifies AI implementation processes.
Many organizations struggle with AI implementation despite having strategies.
AI can enhance productivity and work-life balance.
Understanding the real value of AI goes beyond cost savings.
Personalized approaches to AI implementation are essential.
The landscape of AI is rapidly evolving, requiring continuous learning.
Measuring AI adoption success requires real data, not just anecdotes.
Departments within organizations may have varying maturity levels in AI adoption.
AI skills are becoming essential in hiring practices across industries.
Cultural shifts are influencing how organizations embrace AI technology.
Responsible innovation is crucial for leveraging AI effectively.
AI governance must balance control with worker empowerment.
Global perspectives on AI adoption reveal significant regional differences.
Organizations need to adapt to the rapid pace of AI advancements.
Sound Bites
"AI is going to steal your job."
"We help individuals, teams and organizations."
"Democratize access to insights."
"80% of AI implementation projects are failing."
"AI can really help fix a lot of challenges."
"It's about making my life easier."
"We need to start looking at real value."
"This is what I'm doing right now."
"We can go more in depth, more personalized."
"We're all tech enabled in different ways."
"This is a balancing act of guided empowerment."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI Literacy and Maturity Index
03:49 Understanding the AI Maturity Index
11:44 The STEP Framework for AI Implementation
18:43 Navigating Automation vs. Augmentation
23:23 Measuring AI Value Beyond Cost Savings
25:55 Measuring Success in AI Adoption
30:23 Understanding Organizational Maturity in AI
31:21 The Competitive Edge of AI Benchmarking
32:58 The Future of AI Skills in Hiring
37:12 Cultural Shifts in AI Adoption
40:37 Responsible Innovation in AI
46:05 Navigating AI Governance and Ethics
50:00 Global Perspectives on AI Implementation
Eryn Peters: https://www.linkedin.com/in/erynpeters
Iwo Szapar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iwoszapar
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
13 Aug 2024 | Ep 9: Reimagining the Workforce to Drive the Evolution of Work with Richard Rosenow | 00:50:47 | |
Bob Pulver and Richard Rosenow discuss various topics related to people analytics and AI in the workplace. They cover the ongoing terminology debate, the importance of upskilling in AI, and the impact of AI on both individual and team productivity. They discuss the challenges of integrating AI tools into existing workflows and the need for HR to take a proactive role in embracing AI and responsible AI practices. They also touch on the demand for AI talent and the future of HR tech. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the future of work more broadly, including impacts to education and the changing definition of a (not necessarily human) workforce.
Keywords
people analytics, AI, terminology, upskilling, team productivity, AI tools, workflows, HR, future of work, workforce, AI, HR, upskilling, responsible AI, AI talent, HR tech
Takeaways
The terminology in the people analytics and AI field can be confusing, but there is a growing consensus around the term 'people analytics'.
Upskilling in AI is crucial for HR professionals to stay relevant and take advantage of the tools and technologies available.
Integrating AI tools into existing workflows can improve team productivity, but it requires careful planning and coordination.
HR needs to take a proactive role in embracing AI and ensuring that it is used responsibly and ethically in the workplace.
The definition of a workforce is changing as AI agents and systems become more prevalent, and HR will need to adapt to support and manage these new types of workers. HR has the opportunity to leverage AI tools to improve processes and decision-making.
Upskilling in AI is important for HR professionals to effectively use AI tools.
Responsible AI practices, including data hygiene and bias mitigation, are crucial in HR.
There is a growing demand for AI talent in HR and organizations need to adapt to this change.
The future of HR tech will involve AI-driven workflows and a focus on responsible AI practices.
Sound Bites
"At the end of the day, give yourself some grace if you're trying to figure out what these mean. It's confusing right now."
"If you add AI to one task, but you leave everything else alone, have you done anything? Have you actually made a significant improvement in that end-to-end workflow?"
"HR, if you were on the fence or kind of worried about it, I'd say like, hey, it's a good time to start dipping your toe in, start trying to make use of this, start trying to bring it into your day-to-day usage because the tools are getting strong enough and they're starting to become more available."
"I could see someone making a really funny comedy about this"
"Upskilling in [Generative] AI is simpler than becoming a data scientist or AI software developer"
"HR has a prime opportunity to experiment with AI and extrapolate its value to the rest of the organization"
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:08 Navigating the Terminology of People Analytics and AI
06:12 The Importance of Upskilling in AI for HR Professionals
10:16 Integrating AI Tools into Workflows for Improved Team Productivity
15:21 HR's Role in Embracing AI and Ensuring Responsible Use
25:25 Exploring the Potential of AI in HR
27:45 The Opportunity for HR to Experiment with AI
29:44 Addressing AI Hallucinations and Biases in HR
36:01 Understanding the Data in AI for HR
39:31 The Growing Demand for AI Talent in HR
43:10 The Value of AI Skills and Talent in HR
47:53 The Future of HR Tech: AI-driven Workflows and Responsible AI
Richard Rosenow: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardrosenow/
OneModel: http://www.onemodel.co/
People Analytics Roles: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/people-analytics-roles-update-7219034161934671875/ | |||
24 Jul 2024 | Ep 4: A Human-Centric Approach to Redefining Work with Stela Lupushor | 00:57:49 | |
Entrepreneur, author, professor and people analytics community leader Stela Lupushor discusses the readiness of organizations to navigate the AI-driven transformation. Stela and Bob explore the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into the workplace and the importance of a human-centric approach. They also touch on the need to redefine work and the value exchange between organizations and individuals. The conversation highlights the role of AI in moving people to higher-value activities and the potential for AI to enhance decision-making and decision support in domains like HR. They discuss the limitations of traditional people analytics and the potential of generative AI. It emphasizes the need to focus on business questions and outcomes rather than just HR-specific measurements when building a business case. The discussion also highlights the importance of redefining work, workforce, workplace, and worth in the context of the evolving workforce ecosystem. Stela emphasizes the need for individuals to take ownership of their careers and upskill themselves in AI to navigate the impending transformation.
In this episode, we look at AI-driven transformation, organizational readiness, human-centric approach, redefining work, value exchange, higher-value activities, decision-making, decision support, HR analytics, people analytics, generative AI, business questions, outcomes, work, workforce, workplace, worth, career development, and upskilling.
Key Takeaways
Organizations need to adopt a human-centric approach when integrating AI into the workplace.
The readiness of organizations to navigate the AI-driven transformation is crucial for success.
Redefining work and the value exchange between organizations and individuals is necessary in the AI era.
AI can enable individuals to focus on higher-value activities and enhance decision-making and decision support in domains like HR.
Traditional people analytics is limited in its value and adoption, and there is a need to focus on business questions and outcomes.
Redefining work, workforce, workplace, and worth is crucial in the evolving workforce ecosystem.
Individuals need to take ownership of their careers and upskill themselves in AI to navigate the transformation.
Exploring generative AI tools like ChatGPT 3.5 can help individuals understand its capabilities and possibilities.
Building a community of curious partners and staying updated on the latest innovations in AI can inspire and enable upskilling.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:57 Organizational Readiness for the AI-Driven Transformation
10:33 Challenges in Deploying AI in Organizations
20:32 Moving Towards Higher-Value Activities with AI
23:56 Human-Centricity in Organizational Change
30:41 Enhancing Decision-Making and Decision Support with AI
32:14 The Limitations of Traditional People Analytics
33:12 The Potential of Generative AI
34:35 Expanding Beyond HR and People Data
37:18 Focusing on Business Problems
48:27 Redefining Work, Workforce, Workplace, and Worth
53:02 Taking Ownership of Career Development
57:36 Exploring the Potential of AI
59:41 Building a Community of Curious Learners
Reframe.Work: https://www.reframe.work/
Humans at Work: https://www.amazon.com/Humans-Work-Practice-Creating-Workplace/dp/1398604232 | |||
17 Dec 2024 | Ep 45: Human-Centric AI to Modernize Performance Management and Improve Workforce Development with Sarah Katherine Schmidt | 00:50:19 | |
Sarah Katherine Schmidt and Bob Pulver explore the intersection of AI and HR, focusing on performance management, trust in AI tools, and the evolving expectations of a multi-generational workforce. They discuss the importance of continuous feedback, continued human involvement in recruitment, and the need for data-driven insights to enhance talent management and workforce planning. The conversation emphasizes the potential of AI to improve employee experiences while maintaining a focus on human agency and trust. Sarah Katherine and Bob discuss the importance of hiring practices that focus on objective criteria rather than personal biases, the challenges of organizational transformation, and the emotional responses individuals have to change. They emphasize the need for AI literacy and responsible use of AI tools, highlighting the importance of training and policies to mitigate bias. The conversation also touches on the interplay between data literacy and AI literacy, advocating for continuous education and critical thinking in the use of AI technologies.
Keywords
AI, HR, performance management, customer experience, workforce planning, talent development, employee engagement, generational differences, data-driven insights, trust in AI, AI, hiring, transformation, emotional response, AI literacy, responsible AI, data literacy, change management, bias training, organizational change
Takeaways
AI enhances performance management by promoting agile processes.
Trust in AI tools is essential for successful HR integration.
Feedback frequency is shifting towards continuous rather than annual reviews.
The candidate experience is crucial for attracting talent.
Generational differences impact employee expectations and experiences.
AI can help reduce biases in performance evaluations.
Investing in talent development is key for organizational success.
AI tools can streamline HR processes and improve efficiency.
The future of workforce planning relies on comprehensive data integration.
Emotional responses to change can impact engagement.
Organizations must foster AI literacy among employees.
Bias training must evolve to include AI considerations.
Policies on AI use are essential for responsible implementation.
Continuous evaluation of AI tools is necessary.
Data literacy is foundational for effective AI use.
Curiosity and education about AI should be ongoing.
Sound Bites
"Trust in HR around AI still needs to be built"
"Candidates desire feedback, not ghosting"
"Understand the emotional response to change."
"We need a whole new lens on bias training."
"Responsibility by design is crucial."
"You can't just grab any shiny object."
"Let's not set the bar at just good enough."
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to AI in HR
02:48 - The Evolution of Performance Management
05:47 - Building Trust in AI Tools
08:53 - The Human Touch in Recruitment
12:07 - Navigating Generational Differences in the Workforce
15:02 - Data-Driven Insights for Talent Management
17:55 - The Future of Workforce Planning
20:51 - Leveraging AI for Talent Development
25:52 - Hiring Beyond Bias: The Need for Objective Criteria
27:06 - Navigating Transformation: Challenges and Opportunities
29:51 - Understanding Emotional Responses to Change
33:30 - AI Literacy: Empowering Organizations and Individuals
35:49 - Responsible AI: Training and Policies for Ethical Use
38:53 - Evaluating AI Tools: The Importance of Critical Thinking
46:52 - The Interplay of Data Literacy and AI Literacy
Sarah Katherine Schmidt: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sarahkatherineschmidt
PeopleLogic: https://peoplelogic.ai
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
07 Mar 2025 | Ep 57: Navigating the AI Revolution to Build the Future of Education with David Hatami | 00:57:19 | |
Bob Pulver chats with David Hatami, AI Policy and AI Ethics expert, lifelong educator, and founder of EduPolicy.ai, about the intersection of education and artificial intelligence. They discuss the evolution of technology in education, the challenges of integrating AI into learning environments, and the importance of ethical considerations and policy development. They emphasize the need for critical thinking and responsible use of technology among students, as well as the role of educators and parents in navigating these changes. The discussion also touches on the implications of federal and state control in education and the necessity for higher education institutions to adapt. Bob and David explore the risks associated with AI adoption, the importance of AI literacy, and the need for creativity and innovation in educational settings. They emphasize the changing landscape of higher education, the necessity for personalized learning, and the diverse pathways available. The dialogue highlights the ethical considerations surrounding AI and the responsibility of educators to prepare students for a future where AI and advanced technology are ubiquitous.
Keywords
AI, education, technology, higher education, online learning, ethics, policy, critical thinking, digital culture, workforce skills, creativity, innovation, personalized learning, workforce, digital natives
Takeaways
AI is transforming education, similar to yet more widespread and complex than past technological shifts.
Ethical policies are crucial for responsible AI integration.
Students must learn to use technology responsibly.
Digital natives have different expectations and experiences with technology.
The speed of technological change in education is unprecedented.
Faculty engagement is essential for successful AI integration.
AI tools can provide authoritative responses, but critical thinking is necessary.
The future of education will require ongoing adaptation, including AI literacy and policy development.
Creativity and curiosity in students should be nurtured through innovative projects.
Higher education is being questioned for its ROI in today's job market.
Personalized learning is essential for student success.
Diversity in education includes cognitive and experiential diversity.
AI ethics will become a critical compliance issue in the future.
Students should be taught to use AI responsibly and ethically.
There are many pathways to success beyond traditional college degrees.
Sound Bites
"AI is changing the landscape of education."
"The speed of change in education is dizzying."
"AI ethics is the new compliance."
"Let's train this generation right."
"Education should meet students where they are."
"Education is a sacred responsibility."
"Kids are creative and curious."
"There's so much incredible opportunity."
"Life rarely works in a straight path."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI in Education
03:10 The Evolution of Technology in Education
05:49 Navigating AI's Impact on Learning
09:03 Trust and Critical Thinking in the Age of AI
12:05 The Dichotomy of AI Use in Education
14:58 The Role of Parents and the Future of Education
18:12 Federal vs. State Control in Education
21:14 Adapting Higher Education to AI
23:57 The Future of Workforce Skills and Education
31:28 The Risks of AI Adoption
34:24 Education and AI Literacy
39:10 Creativity and Innovation in Education
46:20 The Changing Landscape of Higher Education
49:50 Personalized Learning and Diverse Pathways
David Hatami: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-h-b288114
EduPolicy.ai
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
05 Dec 2024 | Ep 42: Gen AI Transforms Learning Experiences and Modernizes Content Management with Jack Houghton | 00:42:17 | |
Bob chats with Jack Houghton, co-founder and Chief Product Officer of Mindset AI, about the evolution of AI and its transformative role in learning, development, and content management. Jack shares his journey in AI, insights into generative AI’s rapid advancements, and the challenges of ensuring accuracy and trust in these systems. The conversation explores how AI as a tool to enhance human capability, how organizations can implement AI responsibly, and the disruptive potential of AI agents in reshaping user experiences. They also discuss the critical importance of data quality, accountability in AI workflows, and what the future holds for AI’s integration into our lives.
Keywords
Generative AI, AI in Learning and Development, Responsible AI, AI Agents, Data Quality, Trust in AI, Human-AI Interaction, Workflow Automation, Knowledge Management, Innovation in AI
Takeaways
Generative AI is reshaping user interactions with technology, but accuracy and trust are essential.
AI should enhance human capability, not replace it.
Data quality and transparency are critical for responsible AI workflows.
AI agents offer opportunities for efficiency but require careful design to avoid bias or errors.
Organizations must focus on verified knowledge and user-friendly AI applications.
AI tools can transform learning and development by curating personalized journeys.
Responsible AI implementation involves regular audits, observability, and human oversight.
Future AI applications may enable highly personalized support systems across various domains.
Sound Bites
"Can technology adapt to people instead of the other way around?"
"Generative AI makes enterprise content management faster, simpler, and more intuitive."
"Trust is critical — we need accuracy to avoid hallucinations in AI."
"Every single SaaS application will soon integrate conversational workflows."
"The future of AI is all about enhancing, not replacing, human potential."
"Data quality is the lifeblood of effective AI systems."
"Responsible AI requires accountability and transparency at every step."
"AI agents will eventually outnumber humans in multi-agent workflows."
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Jack Houghton and Mindset AI
02:21 - Early AI experiences and the evolution of machine learning
03:39 - The impact of generative AI on content management systems
05:28 - Challenges of trust, accuracy, and hallucinations in AI
07:28 - Target use cases for AI in learning and development
09:10 - AI coaches and performance support tools
11:19 - Measuring ROI and impact of AI tools in organizations
14:37 - Balancing efficiency, trust, and employee expectations with AI
19:04 - The integration of AI agents with legacy systems
26:12 - Rethinking software and SaaS in the era of AI agents
31:08 - Responsible AI: Addressing data quality, bias, and accountability
38:12 - Future scenarios for AI agents and their integration into everyday life
44:04 - Closing thoughts on advancing AI responsibly
Jack Houghton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jack-houghton1
Mindset AI: https://www.mindset.ai/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
17 Oct 2024 | Ep 28: Upskilling on and with AI to Drive Transformation and Innovation with Josh Cavalier | 00:46:45 | |
Bob chats with veteran learning and development (L&D) expert Josh Cavalier about his background and journey in L&D and his transition into focusing on Generative AI as both the subject and copilot for learning. They discuss the potential impact of AI on L&D professionals, the L&D space overall, and the need to adapt to new technologies. They explore the role of AI in content creation, coaching and mentoring, and the importance of human oversight. Bob and Josh further discuss a variety of related topics, including the challenges and risks of adopting AI, the need for responsible design and use of AI, the lack of AI training in organizations, the rapid changes in AI tools and technologies, the role of AI as a creative co-pilot, the slow adoption of AI in education, and the need for individuals to develop their 'AIQ' through hands-on experience.
Keywords
AI, generative AI, learning and development, L&D professionals, content creation, human oversight, technology, job displacement, upskilling, human performance, efficiency, productivity, collaboration, analytics, AI applications, culture of innovation, risk mitigation, AI adoption, responsible AI, AI training, AI in education, AIQ
Takeaways
L&D professionals need to adapt to the changing landscape of AI and embrace new technologies to enhance their work.
The role of L&D professionals is evolving towards becoming human performance analysts who orchestrate learning journeys and measure their effectiveness.
The adoption of AI in L&D is varied, with some professionals fully embracing it, while others have concerns about ethics and bias.
Organizations need to have a culture of innovation and a willingness to assess and mitigate the risks associated with AI implementation.
Adopting AI comes with challenges and risks that need to be addressed through responsible design and use of AI.
Many organizations lack AI training programs, which may be due to the rapid changes in AI tools and technologies.
AI can serve as a creative co-pilot in fields like animation, providing efficiency gains while allowing artists to showcase their creativity.
The adoption of AI in education is slow, but there are efforts to incorporate AI into curriculums and support students in using AI as a learning tool.
Individuals can elevate their AIQ by actively engaging with AI tools, experimenting with prompt design, and building a personal relationship with technology.
Sound Bites
"Our job is to align the business to human performance."
"Technology fails and you have to have a human in the loop, a human backup."
"The next couple of years are absolutely going to be wild as these businesses realize that they're all going to one endpoint."
"There's a lot of challenges and risks and that's probably a large reason why a lot of companies haven't set up actual AI strategy and policy yet."
"Responsible design and use of AI should be part of compliance training, just like data privacy and cybersecurity."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
06:37 Josh's Journey in L&D and AI
08:19 Job Displacement and AI Applications
10:30 The Changing Role of L&D Professionals
13:15 Orchestrating Learning Journeys with AI
15:24 Convergence of AI Technologies and M&A Activity
17:21 Adoption of AI in L&D and the Importance of Culture
20:00 Challenges and Risks of AI Adoption
22:56 The Lack of AI Training in Organizations
26:30 The Rapid Changes in AI Tools and Technologies
29:23 AI as a Creative Co-Pilot
39:13 The Slow Adoption of AI in Education
47:15 Elevating Your AIQ: Hands-On Experience with AI
Josh Cavalier: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshcavalier
Josh’s website: https://www.joshcavalier.com/
BRAINPOWER Weekly AI Training Show: https://www.youtube.com/joshcavalier
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
22 Oct 2024 | Ep 29: Using Talent Lifecycle Intelligence and Responsible AI to Mitigate Talent Risk with Sultan Saidov | 00:52:54 | |
Sultan Saidov, Co-founder and President of Beamery, sits down with Bob to discuss the impetus for starting the company and the evolution of AI in talent management. Sultan highlights the need for identifying and developing potential in employees, as well as the importance of transparency and information in making career choices. He also emphasizes the role of AI in talent risk management and the shift towards treating talent like customers. Bob and Sultan discuss the challenges of integrating talent intelligence and people analytics and the potential for generative AI in improving data accessibility and decision-making. The conversation explores the challenges and opportunities of using AI in HR and the importance of Responsible AI. Sultan discusses the need for AI models to fail safely and the importance of data safety and security. He highlights the legal review required for HR use cases and the slow adoption of AI in the HR industry. The conversation also touches on the value of integrating AI into existing platforms and the potential for AI to provide guidance and insights. The discussion concludes with a focus on the importance of Responsible AI, including bias auditing and transparency.
Keywords
talent management, AI, potential, transparency, career choices, talent risk management, talent intelligence, people analytics, generative AI, AI in HR, responsible AI, data safety, legal review, AI adoption, integrating AI, guidance and insights, bias auditing, transparency
Takeaways
Identifying and developing potential in employees is crucial for talent management.
Transparency and information are essential for making informed career choices.
AI can play a significant role in talent risk management.
Integrating talent intelligence and people analytics can lead to better decision-making.
AI models in HR should be designed to fail safely and prioritize data safety and security.
Integrating AI into existing platforms can unlock the full potential of AI and provide a seamless user experience.
AI can provide guidance and insights, going beyond task execution to help users ask better questions and make more informed decisions.
Responsible AI practices, such as bias auditing and transparency, are crucial in ensuring fair and ethical outcomes in HR.
Sound Bites
"Making career choices available to people, not just simpler, but fairer."
"Creating more information transparency and solving asymmetries."
"Redeploying and training employees is financially more efficient than hiring new people."
"We're trying to make very particular interactions that our products and AI models already serve work in a much easier and more seamless way."
"What extra insights can we show that give you guidance? For example, can we tell you that before you post this role, consider removing these requirements in order to not be at risk."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:47 Transparency and Information
10:48 Talent Risk Management
16:16 Integrating Talent Intelligence and People Analytics
20:12 Generative AI and Data Accessibility
27:54 Challenges and Opportunities of AI in HR
31:13 AI as a Guide for Better Decision-Making
33:01 Injecting Nudges and Concepts with Digital Adoption Platforms
36:03 Building Trust in AI Platforms
38:55 The Role of Responsible AI in HR
Sultan Saidov: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sultanmurad/
Beamery: https://beamery.com
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
17 Jan 2025 | Ep 50: Adaptive Workforce Strategies and Responsible AI to Optimize Human Potential with Nuno Goncalves | 00:58:11 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Nuno Goncalves, Head of Workforce Strategy at Reejig, about the transformative role of AI in workforce strategy and the importance of human-centric approaches in business. Nuno shares his extensive background in HR and discusses how Reejig is pioneering work ontologies to better understand the evolving landscape of skills and work. The conversation delves into the impact of AI and automation on jobs, the necessity of data-driven decision-making in HR, and the global perspectives on innovation and regulation in the tech industry. Nuno and Bob discuss the importance of human skills, the need for organizations to navigate automation thoughtfully, and the critical role of trust and transparency in fostering a positive workplace culture. They highlight the necessity of upskilling and reskilling employees to adapt as well as to introduce innovative AI solutions that can enhance workforce strategy.
Keywords
Reejig, AI, work ontologies, human-centric AI, workforce strategy, data-driven HR, skills-based organizations, automation, global innovation, AI, human skills, automation, workforce strategy, trust, organizational culture, upskilling, reskilling, critical thinking, innovation
Takeaways
Reejig is focused on understanding the skills of the future.
Work is being automated, not skills.
Human-centric approaches can coexist with business-centric strategies.
Data-driven decisions in HR are crucial for effective workforce planning.
The speed to market is a key differentiator in business.
AI and automation are reshaping the workforce landscape.
Global innovation varies significantly due to regulations.
Companies need to anticipate the needs of the business.
Human-centric AI is essential for sustainable business practices.
Understanding the digital worker's role is critical for future planning. Human skills are irreplaceable in the age of AI.
Organizations must understand task exposure to automation.
Building trust and transparency is crucial for employee engagement.
A culture without fear encourages innovation and adaptation.
Common language around skills is essential for organizational success.
Upskilling and reskilling are necessary for future workers.
AI can augment human capabilities, not replace them.
The future of work involves collaboration between AI agents.
Visibility into job roles helps in strategic decision-making.
Innovation in AI can lead to new workforce strategies.
Sound Bites
"We want a world with zero wasted potential."
"The US continues to be the biggest market."
"We need to think systemic, not linear."
"What are you ready to automate?"
"We need to create visibility and confidence."
"It's about trust and transparency."
"We need to equip organizations with data."
"Culture without fear is essential."
"We need a common language around skills."
"This is a new variation of 'agency'."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Reejig and Nuno's Background
06:09 The Evolution of Work Ontologies
12:10 The Impact of AI and Automation on Work
18:11 Human-Centric AI and Business Strategy
24:08 Data-Driven Decision Making in HR
29:54 Global Perspectives on Innovation and Regulation
36:36 The Importance of Human Skills in the Age of AI
39:51 Navigating Automation: Understanding Task Exposure
44:32 Building Trust and Transparency in Organizations
49:44 The Role of Culture in Adapting to Change
54:53 Innovative AI Solutions: The Future of Workforce Strategy
Nuno Goncalves: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nuno-goncalves
Reejig: http://www.reejig.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
26 Nov 2024 | Ep 39: Bridging the Skills Gap and Empowering Women in AI with Isabelle Bichler | 00:40:41 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Isabelle Bichler, co-founder and COO of Retrain.ai, about the critical role of responsible AI in HR and the pressing skills gap in the workforce. Isabelle’s background is beyond impressive, and in addition to her leadership role, she inspires future leaders through mentorships across the US and Israel. Bob and Isabelle discuss the importance of data in HR decision-making, the cultural shifts needed for AI adoption, and the significance of continuous learning and adaptability in the face of rapid technological change. Isabelle emphasizes the need for responsible AI practices and the role of women in tech, while also exploring the future of AI in HR and the importance of AI literacy for organizations.
Keywords
AI, HR, skills gap, responsible AI, workforce development, data analytics, talent acquisition, continuous learning, women in tech
Takeaways
Isabelle emphasizes the importance of responsible AI in HR.
The skills gap is a pressing issue that needs addressing.
Retrain.ai aims to bridge the skills gap through innovative solutions.
Data quality and integration are crucial for effective HR practices.
AI can enhance human capabilities rather than replace them.
Continuous learning and adaptability are essential in the AI era.
Women are underrepresented in AI, which is critical to address.
AI literacy is vital for organizations to succeed in the digital age.
Responsible AI practices must be integrated from the start.
Sound Bites
"We established Retrain to solve the skills gap."
"44% of workers will need upskilling by 2027."
"Women need to augment their ability with AI."
"AI can enhance you, not replace you."
"Responsible AI must be designed from the start."
"Data quality is the lifeblood of AI."
"We need to embrace exploration in AI."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Responsible AI in HR
03:01 The Skills Gap and Its Implications
05:53 Retrain.ai: Bridging the Skills Gap
08:59 The Importance of Data in HR
11:47 AI and the Future of Work
15:05 Cultural Shifts in AI Adoption
17:54 Responsible AI: Balancing Innovation and Ethics
21:09 The Role of Women in AI
23:48 Contingent Workforce and Skills Intelligence
27:04 The Future of AI in HR Tech
29:50 AI Literacy and Organizational Readiness
32:48 Conclusion and Future Outlook
Isabelle Bichler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/isabelle-bichler-eliasaf-9504191
Retrain.ai: https://www.retrain.ai/platform/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
28 Mar 2025 | Ep 60: Human-Centric AI, Hiring Intelligence, and Learning Agility with Natasha Nuytten | 00:55:27 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Natasha Nuytten, CEO of Clara, about her unique journey and the mission of Clara in the talent acquisition space. Natasha shares her diverse background, the founding principles of Clara, and how the company aims to create a human-centric AI platform that enhances the hiring process. They discuss the importance of critical thinking, the concept of 'distance traveled' in assessing potential, and the ethical implications of using AI in human interactions. Bob and Natasha explore the potential benefits and challenges of using AI, emphasizing the importance of transparency, ethics, and equity in these technologies. The discussion also highlights the need for AI literacy and responsible use, as well as the significance of real-time assessments in job relevance. Ultimately, they advocate for a thoughtful approach to AI that prioritizes human collaboration and addresses systemic inequalities.
Keywords
Clara, talent acquisition, human-centric AI, critical thinking, distance traveled, hiring strategies, AI ethics, neurodiversity, career development, AI, recruitment, hiring, transparency, ethics, equity, technology, job assessments, AI literacy
Takeaways
Natasha's diverse background shaped her perspective on opportunities.
Clara aims to help people tell their own stories better in job applications.
The traditional resume often fails to reflect true capabilities.
AI can enhance the talent acquisition process by providing real-time feedback.
Critical thinking and learning agility are essential skills for the future workforce.
Distance traveled measures potential relative to one's starting point.
Hiring for potential can lead to more dynamic teams.
Technology should enhance human interaction, not replace it.
Neurodiversity should be considered in the hiring process.
AI can enhance the recruitment process by providing better candidate insights.
Transparency in AI usage is crucial for building trust with candidates.
Companies must ensure ethical practices when using AI in hiring.
AI literacy is essential for effective and responsible use of technology.
Real-time assessments can help gauge a candidate's true capabilities.
The future of work will involve collaboration between humans and AI.
AI has the potential to address systemic inequalities in hiring.
Sound Bites
"We are so much more than the job titles we've had."
"How can we help people tell their own stories better?"
"We need to hold on to the things that humans do best."
"I'm bullish on AI conducting that interview."
"There's nowhere to go but up from the current situation."
"Great tools in the hands of great people do great things."
"We have an opportunity to begin to level the playing field."
"Garbage in, garbage out is always true."
Chapters
00:00 Natasha's Journey to Clara
05:11 The Mission of Clara
10:05 Innovative Talent Acquisition Strategies
14:56 The Importance of Critical Thinking
20:15 Navigating AI in Human Interaction
27:33 The Role of AI in Recruitment
30:28 Transparency and Ethics in AI Hiring
34:45 AI Literacy and Responsible Use
39:21 Real-Time Assessments and Job Relevance
43:01 Equity and Access in AI Technology
51:33 The Future of AI and Human Collaboration
Natasha Nuytten: https://www.linkedin.com/in/natasha-nuytten
Clara: https://getclara.io
Human Side Up: https://www.humansideup.com/insights-from-a-digital-transformation-pioneer/
Can AI Make Hiring More Human?: https://www.getclara.io/resources/ai-deib-can-artificial-intelligence-make-hiring-more-human
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
14 Mar 2025 | Ep 58: Reality vs Hype in Enterprise AI Adoption with Kaz Hassan | 00:56:49 | |
Bob Pulver and Kaz Hassan discuss the state of AI adoption within organizations, highlighting the significant gap between AI's hype and the employee experience reality. They explore the challenges of policy paralysis, the need for AI literacy, and the risks associated with shadow AI usage. The conversation also goes into the contrasting experiences of employees in the fast lane versus the slow lane of AI adoption, emphasizing the importance of team effectiveness over individual productivity. They call for better governance and communication strategies to support employees in navigating the evolving landscape of AI. Kaz and Bob emphasize the importance of communication, collaboration, and a mindset shift towards integrating AI into workflows. The concept of the 'superworker' is explored, highlighting how individuals can leverage AI to enhance their productivity. Storytelling in AI communication is stressed as orgs must help employees understand the strategic role of AI.
Keywords
AI adoption, employee experience, organizational policy, productivity, workforce dynamics, AI literacy, shadow AI, governance, communication, collaboration, superworker, mindset, storytelling, collective intelligence, team dynamics, innovation
Takeaways
AI adoption is not matching the hype; many organizations lag behind.
Employees feel disconnected from AI's potential benefits.
Policy paralysis is stalling AI adoption in large organizations.
A significant percentage of employees lack clarity on AI usage.
Shadow AI poses risks to organizations and employee data security.
There's a divide in the workforce between AI adopters and non-adopters.
Team effectiveness is crucial for overall productivity.
Communication about AI's value is essential for adoption.
AI literacy is necessary for employees to leverage technology effectively.
Executives can influence brand reputation through transparency.
Digital natives can mentor traditional executives on new technologies.
Insular work cultures hinder innovation and productivity.
Personal productivity improvements are not enough for transformation.
The superworker concept emphasizes human-AI collaboration.
Mindset shifts are necessary for effective AI integration.
Storytelling is crucial for communicating AI's value.
Collective intelligence can enhance team dynamics and innovation.
Sound Bites
"The reality isn't matching up to the hype."
"There's been a bit of a false start."
"We need clarity and guidance for AI usage."
"There's a schism in the workforce regarding AI usage."
"How do I be the best version of myself?"
"It's about the skill level and the actual competency."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI Adoption and Employee Experience
03:08 The AI Adoption Gap: Reality vs. Hype
06:13 Understanding Employee Perspectives on AI
09:01 Policy Paralysis and Its Impact on AI Adoption
11:46 The Need for AI Literacy and Training
15:14 Shadow AI Usage and Organizational Risks
18:11 The Schism in the Workforce: Fast Lane vs. Slow Lane
21:00 Team Effectiveness vs. Individual Productivity
24:02 Governance and Communication in AI Adoption
29:20 Navigating AI Adoption in Organizations
32:20 The Importance of Communication and Collaboration
35:43 The Role of the Superworker
39:02 Mindset Shifts for AI Integration
43:41 Collective Intelligence and Team Dynamics
47:44 The Need for Storytelling in AI Communication
Kaz Hassan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kazhassan
Unily: https://unily.com
AI Reality Check report: https://www.unily.com/resources/reports/the-ai-reality-check
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
14 Feb 2025 | Ep 54: The Misadventures of AI in Recruiting with Jeremy Lyons - Part 1 | 00:56:15 | |
Bob sits down with Jeremy Lyons, Founder of RecOps Collective, to explore how AI is reshaping the job application process. We discuss the growing trend of mass AI-generated job applications, the rise of fake candidates, and the ethical dilemmas of AI-assisted interviews. Is AI making it easier for recruiters—or just overloading hiring teams? They also dive into how AI is changing resume screening and whether traditional hiring processes need an overhaul. If you've ever wondered how AI is affecting your job search or hiring decisions, this episode is for you.
Keywords
AI in hiring, recruiting automation, mass applications, fake candidates, AI ethics, AI-assisted interviews, job applications, resume filtering, candidate experience, hiring intelligence
Key Takeaways
Mass AI job applications are creating a hiring overload – Recruiters are struggling to handle huge spikes in applications as AI tools allow job seekers to apply at scale.
Fake candidates are a growing concern – AI-assisted fraud is emerging, with candidates outsourcing interviews to others or using real-time AI assistance.
AI-assisted interviews: Ethical or unfair? – Should candidates be allowed to use AI during an interview? Some view it as cheating, while others see it as resourcefulness.
AI can improve the candidate experience—but only if used right – AI-powered interview tools could give every candidate a fair shot while reducing recruiter workloads.
AI resume filtering is flawed – Many AI-driven Applicant Tracking Systems (ATS) may be rejecting great candidates due to flawed keyword screening.
Top Quotes
"AI is making it easier to apply for jobs—but is it actually making it easier to get hired?"
"If AI is being used in hiring, why shouldn’t candidates be allowed to use it in interviews?"
"People are treating mass applications like it is a new problem. This is a problem that colleges have been dealing with for 20+ years."
"Companies need to rethink how they screen candidates before AI makes the hiring process completely unmanageable."
Chapters & Timestamps
00:01 – Introduction to Jeremy Lyons & RecOps Collective
02:27 – The Recruiting Operations Conference & Building AI for TA
10:45 – AI in Hiring: The Rise of Mass Applications & Fake Candidates
19:36 – Ethics & Boundaries of AI Use in Job Interviews
30:24 – AI’s Role in Resume Filtering & Candidate Screening
45:17 – Challenges with AI-Powered Hiring: Bias & Compliance Risks
Jeremy Lyons: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyonsjeremy
RecOps RoundUp: https://recops.substack.com/
RecOps Collective: https://www.recopscollective.com/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
07 Nov 2024 | Ep 34: Critical Thinking, Empowerment, and the Untapped Potential of AI Adoption with Giancarlo Erra | 00:54:24 | |
Bob sits down with Giancarlo Erra, a creative tech entrepreneur with extensive experience in AI across numerous domains. They discuss the challenges small businesses face in adopting AI, the misconceptions surrounding the technology, and the importance of education and critical thinking in navigating the AI landscape. Giancarlo emphasizes the need for society to take responsibility for AI adoption and the importance of upskilling the workforce to adapt to the changing job market. Bob and Giancarlo also discuss the evolving landscape of AI and its implications for skills, education, and employment. They emphasize the importance of durable skills such as critical thinking and empathy, the need for responsible AI usage, and the potential of custom GPTs to empower users without technical backgrounds. Giancarlo shares additional insights on practical approaches to AI training, the role of AI in creative processes, and the necessity of ongoing education to navigate the challenges posed by AI technologies.
Keywords
AI, small business, education, critical thinking, technology adoption, media influence, workforce skills, upskilling, societal responsibility, AI risks, AI, durable skills, education, upskilling, custom GPTs, creative processes, responsible AI, technology integration, talent management, automation
Takeaways
Giancarlo Erra has been a creative tech entrepreneur for 25 years.
Small businesses often struggle with AI adoption due to limited resources.
Many businesses put technology first before understanding their actual needs.
The media often creates confusion around AI advancements.
Education is crucial for understanding and using AI effectively.
Critical thinking is a vital skill in the age of AI.
Society must take responsibility for how AI is used.
Upskilling is essential for adapting to the future job market.
Durable skills like critical thinking and empathy are essential in the AI era.
Over-reliance on AI outputs can lead to negative consequences.
Education and upskilling are crucial for adapting to AI integration.
AI should enhance human capabilities rather than replace them.
Experimentation with AI tools is key to understanding their potential.
AI can serve as a valuable brainstorming tool for generating ideas.
Responsible AI usage requires sensitivity and fairness in implementation.
The responsibility for educating others about AI lies with us.
Sound Bites
"You need to understand what you need."
"AI is not a silver bullet."
"We need more critical thinkers."
"We will always need critical thinking and empathy."
"Don't be overly reliant on AI outputs."
"Education is key to understanding AI's impact."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Giancarlo Erra and His Background
03:09 AI in Small Businesses: Patterns and Challenges
05:52 Understanding AI: Misconceptions and Media Influence
09:12 The Importance of Education and Critical Thinking
12:12 The Future of Work: Human Skills vs. AI
14:53 Societal Responsibility in AI Adoption
18:13 Navigating AI Risks and Regulations
20:58 The Role of Education in AI Literacy
23:58 Empowering the Workforce: Upskilling and Adaptation
30:50 The Importance of Durable Skills in the Age of AI
32:14 Navigating AI's Impact on Talent and Employment
34:53 Education and Upskilling for AI Integration
38:23 Practical Approaches to AI Training and Tools
41:52 Custom GPTs: Empowering Users Without Technical Skills
44:11 Exploring AI's Role in Creative Processes
59:56 Final Thoughts on Getting Started with AI
Giancarlo Erra: https://www.linkedin.com/in/giancarloerra
Promethean Box Ltd: https://prometheanbox.com
Tweetify It: https://tweetify.it
CopyForge AI: https://copyforge.ai
Your Vault AI: (https://yourvault.ai)
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
07 Feb 2025 | Ep 53: AI, Adaptability, and Self-Awareness to Rediscover Human Potential with Mike Schindler | 00:52:54 | |
Bob Pulver sits down with Mike Schindler, a Navy veteran, executive coach, and documentary filmmaker. The conversation explores the intersection of AI, human creativity, and leadership in an era of rapid change. Mike discusses his documentary The Rise of Humanness, his approach to fostering self-awareness, and why adaptability will be crucial for thriving in an AI-driven future. Together, they examine key frameworks like VUCA, AI literacy, and redefining human potential as traditional job roles evolve.
Keywords
Humanness, AI literacy, self-awareness, human value, VUCA, adaptability, human creativity, future of work, talent strategy, leadership, storytelling, human-centric AI
Highlights
Mike’s Journey: From Navy service to filmmaking and leadership development
The Rise of Humanness: Why expanding human value in the age of AI is essential
VUCA and Adaptability: A framework for navigating rapid change in life and business
Self-Awareness Exercises: How understanding yourself is key to success in AI-driven environments
AI as a Teammate: How AI can augment creativity but not replace human intuition
Authentic Relationships: Why human connection will remain central despite technological advancements
Rethinking Career Paths: Moving beyond linear career trajectories by leveraging creativity and adaptability
Quotes
“We’ve been training humans to be robots for the last 100 years. Now it’s time to pull the creator out of them.” — Mike Schindler
“When the vision is big, the circumstances don’t matter.” — Mike Schindler
“AI can help you see around corners, but you need the self-awareness to discern when its recommendations align with your goals.” — Mike Schindler
“We need more wild ducks—people willing to carve their own path and challenge the status quo.” — Bob Pulver
“Companies that don’t identify their moonshot and align their people toward it will struggle to remain relevant.” — Mike Schindler
“AI is designed to be a collaborator, but humans bring the nuance, emotion, and intuition that make great storytelling.” — Mike Schindler
Chapters
[00:00] - Introduction: Meet Mike Schindler, Navy veteran turned filmmaker and leadership coach
[02:12] - Current Projects: The Rise of Humanness and Mike’s upcoming documentaries
[04:37] - What Is VUCA? Understanding volatility, uncertainty, complexity, and ambiguity
[07:40] - Teaching Humans to Be Human Again: Breaking free from robotic routines
[10:14] - Self-Awareness Exercises: How understanding yourself leads to growth and success
[14:03] - AI Ready, Human Ready, Change Ready: Preparing for a rapidly evolving future
[21:20] - Talent Strategy and Adaptability: Why job roles change faster than ever before
[29:18] - Rethinking Career Paths: How creativity and individuality are the keys to future success
[35:36] - Human Connection: Why authentic relationships are more important than ever
[44:55] - AI in Creativity: How AI assists in filmmaking and creative problem-solving
[51:33] - Final Thoughts: Building better relationships and rediscovering purpose
Mike Schindler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjschindler
VUCA MAX: https://itsvucamax.com/
The Rise of Humanness (podcast): https://riseofhumanness.podbean.com/
“The Rise of Humanness” (book): https://itsvucamax.com/book-2/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
19 Sep 2024 | Ep 20: AI Literacy and Responsible Innovation with Daan van Rossum | 00:56:03 | |
Bob Pulver chats with AI expert Daan van Rossum, CEO and co-founder of FlexOS, about the future of work and the role of AI. They discuss the challenges and opportunities of adopting AI tools in the workplace, the importance of employee autonomy and agency, and the need for training and guidance on using AI ethically. They also touch on the impact of remote work and the consumerization of IT. The conversation highlights the need for companies to embrace AI as a new coworker and to foster a culture of trust and collaboration. Bob and Daan explore the future of AI and its impact on work and productivity. They discuss the role of AI in different industries and the need for interoperability among AI agents. The conversation emphasizes the importance of responsible AI adoption and the need for companies to develop their own AI solutions. It also highlights the potential of AI to reduce tedious tasks and increase employee engagement. They conclude the discussion by encouraging companies to start their AI journey and evolve alongside AI technology.
Keywords
future of work, AI adoption, employee autonomy, ethical AI, remote work, consumerization of IT, trust and collaboration, AI, future, work, productivity, interoperability, responsible AI, adoption, toil, employee engagement
Takeaways
AI adoption in the workplace requires a balance between quantitative and qualitative approaches to evaluating and selecting AI solutions.
Companies should view AI as a new coworker and focus on creating a culture of trust and collaboration with employees.
Training and guidance on using AI ethically and responsibly are crucial for successful AI integration.
The consumerization of IT and the rise of shadow IT highlight the need for companies to be agile and responsive to employee needs and preferences.
The future of work requires a shift in mindset from productivity-focused metrics to a focus on autonomy, agency, and meaningful work. AI is a powerful tool that can enhance productivity and reduce toil in the workplace.
Companies should consider developing their own AI solutions to leverage their unique data and gain a competitive advantage.
Responsible AI adoption requires a people-centric approach and a focus on ethics and transparency.
AI has the potential to increase employee engagement and satisfaction by automating mundane tasks and allowing more time for strategic work.
Companies that embrace AI early and foster a culture of experimentation and learning will have a significant advantage in the future.
Sound Bites
"This is not software, right? This is not software in the sense that, software was always something that you could install or use in the cloud and it had a button."
"You can't just look at historical patterns of decisions and say, well, I see, I know what you're going to do. So I'll just take care of it. Like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, that's not exactly how it works."
"If there was ever an age for autonomy and agency with employees, it's now."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Flex OS and the Mission of Creating a Happier Future of Work
02:14 Evaluating and Reviewing AI Solutions: Balancing Quantitative and Qualitative Approaches
05:22 The Impact of AI on Work and the Need for Trust and Collaboration
09:09 The Challenges of AI Adoption and the Role of HR in Guiding Employees
13:35 The Rise of Shadow IT and the Importance of Agility in IT
31:08 The Future of AI and Its Impact on Work and Productivity
32:05 The Need for Interoperability Among AI Agents
32:35 The Importance of Responsible AI Adoption
33:15 Reducing Toil and Increasing Employee Engagement with AI
34:09 Starting the AI Journey and Evolving Alongside AI Technology
Daan van Rossum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daanvanrossum/
FlexOS: https://www.flexos.work/
Lead With AI: https://www.flexos.work/leadwithai | |||
21 Feb 2025 | Ep 55: The Misadventures of AI in the Workplace with Jeremy Lyons - Part 2 | 00:49:00 | |
In Part 2 of Bob's conversation with Jeremy Lyons, they shift from AI’s impact on job seekers to how AI is changing the workplace itself. Bob and Jeremy dive into the debate over AI vs. human productivity, how AI-driven hiring can lead to bias and legal risks, and why AI literacy is becoming an essential skill in the workforce. They also explore how AI might create "one-person billion-dollar companies", what AI governance looks like in talent acquisition, and why companies need to think deeply about AI ethics before adopting new tools.
Keywords
AI in the workplace, AI productivity, AI compliance, hiring bias, AI literacy, AI in HR, AI governance, responsible AI, AI ethics, workforce transformation, automation in hiring
Key Takeaways
AI productivity is about more than speed—it’s about effectiveness – AI isn’t just about working faster, but also about better decision-making and finding insights.
AI hiring bias is real – If AI is trained on biased data, it can create legal risks, discrimination issues, and adverse hiring outcomes.
AI literacy is the next essential skill – Future job descriptions will require AI proficiency, just like Microsoft Office skills in the past.
AI-driven businesses are coming – There may soon be billion-dollar companies run by just one person and their AI agents.
AI governance is critical – Companies need to implement AI monitoring & compliance tools (like Warden AI) to ensure fair hiring practices.
Top Quotes
"AI isn’t replacing humans—it’s forcing humans to redefine their roles."
"AI productivity isn’t just about working faster—it’s about working smarter."
"There’s a reason AI governance tools like Warden AI exist—because bias in AI hiring is real."
"AI literacy will be the next ‘must-have’ skill in every job description."
"We’re not far from the era of billion-dollar companies run by one person and their AI."
Chapters
00:00 – Challenges with AI-Powered Hiring: Bias & Compliance Risks
10:09 – AI Productivity vs. Human Productivity: Where’s the Balance?
20:34 – AI Literacy: The New Essential Skill for Employees
30:52 – AI Governance & Legal Risks in Hiring Tech
40:13 – Final Thoughts: AI’s Place in Hiring & Workforce Development
Jeremy Lyons: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyonsjeremy
RecOps RoundUp: https://recops.substack.com/
RecOps Collective: https://www.recopscollective.com/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
01 Aug 2024 | Ep 6: Assessment Validity and AI to Find Hidden Potential with Dr. Harold Goldstein and Arthur Tisi | 01:17:05 | |
Bob speaks with Arthur Tisi and Dr. Harold Goldstein about AI and assessments in the workplace. They discuss the use of personality tests, the limitations of social media data, and the importance of using multiple data sources to gain a holistic view of individuals. They also emphasize the need for validity in assessments and the connection between behavior and outcomes. The conversation continues with an exploration of AI in talent acquisition, the challenges associated with it, and the importance of ethical considerations and bias mitigation. They discuss the need for organizations to adopt a more holistic and personalized approach to talent acquisition, rather than relying on traditional methods. They emphasize understanding individuals deeply and supporting their development and growth. The potential of AI to enhance various aspects of business operations, such as sales effectiveness, talent management, and decision-making, is also highlighted. The conversation concludes with advice for upskilling and leveraging AI in career development.
AI, personality assessments, social media data, data sources, validity, behavior, outcomes, music, talent acquisition, explicit data, implicit data, bias, assessments, test prep, passive candidates, active candidates, strategic workforce planning, sports analytics, organizational development, urgency, human capital, AI potential, talent management, decision-making, employee potential, upskilling, career development.
Key Takeaways
Personality tests can provide insights into individuals' capabilities and behaviors in the workplace, but they should not be the sole method of assessment.
Using multiple data sources, both internal and external, can help create a more complete picture of individuals' talents and behaviors.
The validity of assessments is crucial, as they should be connected to actual behavior and outcomes in the workplace.
The intersection of AI and personality assessments offers the potential for deep insights into individuals' personalities and behaviors.
Ethical considerations arise when using AI in assessments, and biases can be a concern.
Organizations should have a sense of urgency and think in-depth about their talent, providing support for development and growth.
AI has the potential to enhance various aspects of business operations, such as sales effectiveness and talent management.
Before seeking external talent, organizations should optimize the potential of their existing employees.
Intellectual curiosity and interdisciplinary collaboration are key to leveraging AI and enhancing AIQ.
Individuals should focus on upskilling and embracing AI to stay relevant in their careers.
Sound Bites
"You want to augment that with additional ways of measuring individual talent and then look for convergence."
"We have much stronger correlations based on what we refer to as validity."
"Invest a little bit more and move people around."
"Truly use AI to create an optimal team."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of the Guests
03:00 The Role of Personality Tests in the Workplace
06:04 The Importance of Multiple Data Sources in Assessments
08:54 The Need for Validity in Assessments
12:09 Exploring the Intersection of AI and Personality Assessments
15:11 The Role of AI in Talent Acquisition
17:16 Balancing Explicit and Implicit Data in Assessments
24:34 Ethical Considerations and Biases in AI Assessments
31:20 Moving Towards a Holistic Approach to Talent Acquisition
47:26 The Need for Urgency in Talent Acquisition
53:44 Lessons from Sports Analytics for Strategic Workforce Planning
58:29 Unlocking the Potential of AI
59:47 Optimizing Existing Talent
01:04:52 Intellectual Curiosity and Collaboration
01:07:38 Elevating Your AIQ: Upskilling and Career Development
Hunova: https://hunova.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
29 Aug 2024 | Ep 14: Mindset, Skillset, and Toolset for the Evolution of Work with Gary Bolles | 00:59:13 | |
Bob has an engaging discussion with Gary Bolles, Chair for the Future of Work at Singularity University, author of the book, “The Next Rules of Work: The Mindset, Skillset and Toolset to Lead Your Organization through Uncertainty”, keynote speaker, lecturer, and many other roles. They talk about his extensive background, including the ‘family business’ and all his endeavors related to human potential, career development, and of course, the future of work. Bob and Gary discuss the challenges of finding the right balance between innovation and regulation. They hit on the automation maturity curve and the need for individuals and organizations to adapt and transform in the face of exponential change. Gary emphasizes the importance of mindset and culture in driving successful transformation. The conversation explores the concept of collective intelligence and the combination of human intelligence and AI. They touch on the importance of asking better questions and the evolving role of leaders in guiding teams. Gary highlights the need for organizations to embrace new models of social cohesion and education systems to empower individual learning. Lastly is a discussion on the responsible and fair use of AI and the need to develop AI literacy in education.
Keywords
future of work, AI, trends, regulation, innovation, automation, transformation, mindset, culture, collective intelligence, human intelligence, AI, adaptability, growth, team metrics, cognitive diversity, AIQ, education, AI literacy
Takeaways
Exponential technologies like AI have the potential to bring both tremendous benefits and concerns.
It is crucial to have a proactive approach to regulation and scenario planning to anticipate the impacts of new technologies.
Automation is a continuum. Rather than focusing on job displacement, organizations should re-architect job roles and empower humans with technology.
Successful transformation requires a growth mindset and a culture of continuous learning and adaptation.
AI has the potential to augment collective intelligence by providing insights and sparking new ideas.
Leaders should focus on asking better questions and empowering individuals to find solutions.
Organizations should embrace new models of social cohesion to leverage collective intelligence.
Education systems need to shift towards empowering individual learning and teaching AI literacy.
Sound Bites
"Exponential technologies often follow an exponential curve and accelerate each other along that curve."
"The concern with exponential technologies is that they tend to create outsized players and monocultures."
"Automation doesn't replace jobs, it automates tasks. The decision to eliminate jobs is a human decision."
"So long as we help them to be able to continually adapt and grow, then you're going to be much more likely to have the organization have that capacity."
"We're still in very early days, especially with regenerative AI and large language models."
"We will define the organization by its level of social cohesion."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:20 Exploring the Intersection of Trends and the Impact of AI
08:52 Finding the Balance Between Innovation and Regulation
16:28 Navigating the Automation Maturity Curve
25:10 The Importance of Mindset and Culture in Transformation
29:08 Adaptability and Growth
31:46 Augmenting Collective Intelligence with AI
35:12 Asking Better Questions for Insights
44:00 Rethinking Organizational Models
51:11 Empowering Individual Learning
Gary Bolles: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbolles
The Next Rules of Work: https://www.koganpage.com/general-business-interest/the-next-rules-of-work-9781398601635
LinkedIn Learning: https://www.linkedin.com/learning/instructors/gary-bolles
Singularity University: https://su.org
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
03 Sep 2024 | Ep 15: The Future of Skills Assessments and Hiring in the Age of AI with Dr. Charles Handler | 00:49:39 | |
Bob is joined by Dr. Charles Handler to discuss various topics related to AI, skills-based hiring, and the challenges of keeping up with information overload. They explore the importance of defining skills in skills-based hiring and the need for verification at scale. They also touch on the value and risks of AI in the hiring process, particularly in the assessment phase. Dr. Handler shares his thoughts on reducing friction in hiring, the paradox of AI, and the potential future of assessment with automated inferential assessments and high-fidelity simulations. The conversation explores the challenges and potential of AI adoption and responsible AI practices. Bob and Charles discuss the timeline for mass adoption of AI, the role of AI in simulations and training, the need for policies and governance around AI, and the impact of AI on diversity, equity, and inclusion. They emphasize the importance of understanding the technical aspects of AI and recommend educational resources for building AI literacy.
Keywords
AI, skills-based hiring, information overload, verification, friction reduction, accuracy, fairness, assessment, inferential assessments, simulations, AI adoption, responsible AI, mass adoption, simulations, training, policies, governance, diversity, equity, inclusion, AI literacy
Takeaways
Defining skills is crucial in skills-based hiring to ensure a shared understanding of what constitutes a skill.
Verification of skills at scale is a challenge in skills-based hiring, and finding a solution for this is essential for accuracy.
AI can reduce friction in the hiring process but may come at the cost of accuracy and fairness.
Machine learning has been used in ATSs for resume parsing and matching, but there is still room for improvement.
The future of assessment may involve automated inferential assessments based on digital exhaust and high-fidelity simulations. Mass adoption of AI may take time, but experimentation and progress are happening.
AI can be used in simulations and training, such as military simulations and role-playing scenarios.
Policies and governance around AI are necessary to ensure responsible AI practices.
AI has the potential to impact diversity, equity, and inclusion in hiring and talent acquisition.
Building AI literacy is important for understanding the technical aspects of AI and its implications.
Sound Bites
"Skills-based hiring is about accuracy and fairness."
"There will be a sinkhole in assessment with automated inferential assessments and high-fidelity simulations."
"Is AI a fad? This is not crypto. This is here to stay."
"The future is people training the agents how to have good competencies."
"The baseline of where we are in the moment is still incredible and game-changing."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:03 Challenges of Keeping Up with AI and Information Overload
10:40 Skills-Based Hiring and the Half-Life of Skills
21:58 The Value and Risks of AI in the Hiring Process
22:18 AI's Role in Reducing Friction and the Paradox of Accuracy and Fairness
24:47 The Future of Assessment: Automated Inferential Assessments and High-Fidelity Simulations
25:59 The Timeline for Mass Adoption of AI
27:31 AI in Simulations and Training
34:18 The Need for Policies and Governance around AI
43:18 AI's Impact on Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
48:13 Building AI Literacy
Dr. Charles Handler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drcharleshandler/
Rocket-Hire: http://www.rocket-hire.com
Psych Tech @ Work: https://open.spotify.com/show/2euPiLjmRMoce5cvh5S3Jp?si=30050c48046e452d
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
24 Jul 2024 | Ep 1: Modernizing the Talent Lifecycle with Chad Sowash | 00:49:55 | |
Bob Pulver and Chad Sowash discuss various topics related to talent acquisition, technology, and AI. They emphasize the importance of falling in love with the problem rather than the solution and highlight the need for universal design in AI applications. They also discuss the metrics that talent teams should focus on, such as revenue impact and attrition rates, rather than traditional metrics like time to hire and cost per hire. The conversation touches on the challenges of AI literacy and responsible AI implementation.
AI literacy and the use of generative AI are important skills for individuals and organizations. It is not necessary to have a technical background to understand and use generative AI, as it is approachable and can coach users while they are using it. It is important to start playing with AI tools and experimenting with them to learn and share best practices. AI will not take jobs, but those who understand AI will be the ones to thrive. Organizations need to focus on AI readiness and education, and leaders need to evolve with the times.
In this episode, we look at talent acquisition, technology, AI, universal design, revenue impact, AI literacy, generative AI, experimentation, and leadership.
Key Takeaways
Focus on falling in love with the problem rather than the solution.
Implement universal design principles to benefit all users.
Shift the focus of metrics from traditional ones like time to hire to revenue impact and attrition rates.
Address the challenges of AI literacy and responsible AI implementation.
AI literacy is important for individuals and organizations, and generative AI is approachable and can be used without a technical background.
Experimenting with AI tools and sharing best practices is crucial for learning and staying ahead in the field.
AI will not take jobs, but those who understand and leverage AI will have a competitive advantage.
Organizations need to focus on AI readiness and education, and leaders need to evolve with the changing landscape.
Chapters
00:00 Introducing Chad
01:11 Discussing Background and Experience
06:13 Balancing Multiple Roles and Responsibilities
09:09 The Importance of Critical Thinking in AI
10:06 The Expectations and Limitations of AI
12:16 Designing for Accessibility and Universal Design
13:09 The Role of AI in Resume Writing and Job Applications
15:34 Avoiding Shiny Object Syndrome in AI Adoption
18:39 Designing Different Paths in the Talent Acquisition Process
20:57 The Value of Universal Design and Building for All Users
22:25 Reevaluating Metrics in Talent Acquisition
23:55 The Pitfalls of Individual Productivity Metrics
27:58 Shifting the Focus to Metrics that Impact the Bottom Line
28:35 AI Literacy and Generative AI
30:18 Experimentation and Sharing Best Practices
31:23 AI Will Not Take Jobs, but Understanding AI is Key
39:40 The Need for AI Readiness and Evolving Leadership
The Chad & Cheese Podcast: https://www.chadcheese.com/ | |||
01 Oct 2024 | Ep 23: The Impact of AI on Contingent Workforce and Talent Transformation with Jeff Mike | 00:42:10 | |
Bob Pulver talks with Jeff Mike, Managing Director, Customer Strategy and Value, at Flextrack, about AI in talent acquisition and how his organization’s next-generation vendor management system fits into the future of talent puzzle. Bob and Jeff discuss the practical use cases of AI, the integration of AI tools into the FlexTrack platform, and the benefits of using generative AI. They also touch on the importance of data privacy and trust in AI, the need for critical thinking when using AI, and the potential for AI to augment rather than replace human workers. The conversation explores the complexity of managing data in the contingent workforce ecosystem and the convergence of HR, procurement, IT, and finance. Bob and Jeff also discuss the challenges of skills taxonomy and the need for a common language. The potential use of small language models and AI assistants in HR and talent management is highlighted, along with the importance of engaging with AI tools and resources to elevate one’s AIQ.
Keywords
AI, talent acquisition, FlexTrack, vendor management system, practical use cases, integration, generative AI, data privacy, trust, critical thinking, augmentation, contingent workforce, data management, convergence, skills taxonomy, small language models, AI assistants, AIQ
Takeaways
FlexTrack is a next-generation vendor management system that focuses on practical use cases of AI in talent acquisition.
The integration of AI tools into a software platform allows for more streamlined and efficient workflows.
Data privacy and trust are important considerations when using AI, and critical thinking is necessary to ensure responsible AI use.
AI has the potential to augment human workers and create new opportunities for upskilling and growth. Managing data in the contingent workforce ecosystem requires a focus on security, integration, and making sense of complex data from multiple sources.
There is a convergence between HR, procurement, IT, and finance in adopting a total workforce approach.
Skills taxonomy is a challenge in the talent space, and the development of a common language is needed.
Small language models and AI assistants are valuable tools for generating content and navigating people data.
Engaging with AI tools and resources is essential for developing AIQ and leveraging the benefits of AI.
Sound Bites
"Start with practical use cases."
"A single user interface that acts as the general contractor."
"We believe very much in the ecosystem approach and bringing the best of the ecosystem into their tech stack."
"Now we have connectors and tools to bring these all together in a secure way."
"Seeing convergence between HR, procurement, IT, and finance on a total workforce approach."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
07:33 Integration of AI Tools in the FlexTrack Platform
11:36 Data Privacy and Trust in AI
18:43 The Importance of Critical Thinking in AI
23:24 AI as an Augmentation, Not Replacement, for Human Workers
29:07 Managing Data in the Contingent Workforce Ecosystem
31:15 Convergence of HR, Procurement, IT, and Finance
34:44 The Value of Small Language Models and AI Assistants
45:08 Elevating AIQ: Engaging with AI Tools and Resources
Jeff Mike: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-mike
FlexTrack: https://www.flextrack.com
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
03 Oct 2024 | Ep 24: Driving Better Hiring Outcomes through Talent Intelligence and Responsible AI with Markellos Diorinos | 00:47:56 | |
Bob catches up with Markellos Diorinos, Co-Founder and CEO of Bryq, a hiring intelligence and talent assessment platform. Markellos discusses his background in computer science and his transition to the business side of software projects. He explains the importance of using data to make decisions and the limitations of relying solely on resumes for hiring. Markellos introduces the concept of talent intelligence and how it can help match individuals to the right roles based on their skills, personality traits, and potential. He emphasizes the need to engineer processes and think critically about how AI can be used to solve problems effectively. They discuss the need to mitigate potential biases in AI models, and delve into the implications of AI legislation, including third-party audits to ensure fairness and equity in algorithms. The conversation highlights the potential of AI to improve processes and create better outcomes, but also emphasizes the need for individuals to understand and critically evaluate AI outputs. The concept of AIQ is also covered, including the ability to handle AI as a measure of cognitive ability in relation to AI.
Keywords
computer science, data-driven decisions, hiring, talent intelligence, skills, personality traits, potential, AI, biases, audit posture, HR systems, legislation, AI, third-party audits, fairness, equity, regulation, responsible use, AIQ, cognitive ability
Takeaways
Data-driven decision-making is crucial for solving problems effectively.
Resumes alone are not sufficient for making hiring decisions; a holistic approach that considers skills, personality traits, and potential is needed.
Talent intelligence can help match individuals to the right roles based on their unique attributes.
AI should be used to augment human intellect and decision-making rather than replace it.
It is important to mitigate biases in AI models to ensure fair and unbiased outcomes, and to ensure fairness and equity in AI-driven decision-making.
Third-party audits play a vital role in identifying and addressing biases and errors in AI systems.
Regulating AI is a complex challenge, with different approaches taken by different regions.
Responsible use of AI requires individuals to think critically about the inputs and outputs of AI systems.
AI has the potential to improve processes and outcomes, but individuals must still be actively involved and make informed decisions.
Sound Bites
"The hard part about software projects wasn't actually coding it or solving it. It was getting people to use things."
"You think you know a lot of things and then you realize that, oh, what I actually know is how to ask the right questions and interpret the data."
"Investing in talent intelligence is more logical than trying to find a better match on paper."
"AI is actually an opportunity to become a better version of ourselves."
"The US always tries to regulate with controls... The EU being more of the liberal-minded Europeans that they are. They always like to regulate, almost by intent."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
01:08 Realizing the Importance of Data-Driven Decisions
06:37 The Limitations of Resumes for Hiring Decisions
08:19 Matching Individuals to the Right Roles with Talent Intelligence
12:08 Engineering the Hiring Process and Mitigating Biases
28:08 The Role of Third-Party Audits in Ensuring Fairness in AI
36:23 Challenges and Approaches to Regulating AI
42:39 The Importance of Responsible Use of AI
45:34 The Potential and Limitations of AI
46:45 AIQ: The Ability to Handle and Work with AI
Markellos Diorinos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markeld
Bryq: https://www.bryq.com/
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
27 Aug 2024 | Ep 13: Using AI to Realize Human Potential with Ioanna Onasi | 00:50:52 | |
Bob Pulver talks with Ioanna Onasi, CEO and co-founder of Dextego, about the role of AI in coaching, the importance of personalized learning, and the value of experiential education. They also explore the impact of AI on job displacement and the potential for AI to enhance decision-making and collaboration. The conversation highlights the need for a balance between automation and human skills, and the importance of soft skills and practical application in education. Bob and Ioanna explore the challenges and opportunities of creating a learning culture within organizations. Ioanna emphasizes the importance of investing in employees' growth and creating incentives for learning. They touch on the need for mindset shifts to embrace AI and automation, the evolving nature of careers, and the need for organizations to adapt their talent strategies. They highlight the importance of building a culture that attracts and retains talent and the role of AI in supporting personalized learning and productivity.
Keywords
AI, personalized learning, experiential education, decision-making, automation, human skills, soft skills, education, learning culture, workforce transformation, growth mindset, talent strategy, personalized learning, AIQ
Takeaways
Personalized learning is crucial for effective skill development, as it provides a safe space for practice and feedback.
AI can enhance decision-making and collaboration by providing insights and guidance based on individual needs and preferences.
The future of work will require individuals to adapt and continuously learn, leveraging their transferable skills and embracing AI as a co-pilot.
Education systems need to evolve to include soft skills and practical use, preparing students for the complex and changing work environment.
Investing in employees' growth and creating incentives for learning are crucial for creating a learning culture within organizations.
Mindset shifts are necessary to embrace AI and automation in the workforce.
Organizations need to adapt their talent strategies to the evolving nature of careers and build a culture that attracts and retains talent.
AI can support personalized learning and productivity by providing customized support to individuals.
Individuals can elevate their AIQ by joining communities and connecting with others in their field.
Sound Bites
"Today with the power of Gen. AI, we can actually create a very personalized coach"
"There's so much more that could be done...AI can help you in how you make decisions"
"It's a little ironic that we use AI to help people develop skills so that they beat AI"
"Are you investing in me? And do you recognize that I have the potential to be successful in one of those other roles if only we fill this particular gap?"
"Learning cultures are created by a combination of things, not just by one person leading an LMS."
"There's only 1-2% of people in your company that truly will do everything for their learning because they have the drive. Everybody else needs to know that the effort will have an external reward."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:39 The Power of Personalized Learning and Experiential Education
05:09 AI as a Co-Pilot: Enhancing Decision-Making and Collaboration
08:25 Balancing Automation and Human Skills in the Future of Work
13:28 The Need for Soft Skills and Practical Application in Education
19:42 Driving Sales Enablement and Onboarding with AI
27:34 Adapting Talent Strategies to Evolving Careers
29:37 Building a Culture that Attracts and Retains Talent
35:30 AI for Personalized Learning and Productivity
41:07 Elevating AIQ: Joining Communities and Connecting with Others
Ioanna Onasi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joannemantzouridou
Dextego: https://dextego.com/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
20 Aug 2024 | Ep 11: AI's Impact on HR Transformation and Innovation with Pete Tiliakos | 00:45:04 | |
Bob Pulver and Pete Tiliakos discuss the impact of AI on HR transformation. They explore the scale and complexity of AI compared to previous transformations and emphasize the importance of continuous improvement. They also discuss the opportunities and risks of using AI, including the need for responsible AI practices and governance. They highlight the importance of trust, ethics, and critical thinking skills in using AI effectively. Additionally, they touch on the role of AI in HR functions such as payroll and the need for upskilling and education in AI. The conversation explores the application of AI in organizations and the importance of data and analytics maturity. Bob and Pete discuss how companies are using AI to improve their front-end customer experiences and how these lessons can be applied to the back office. Pete shares his favorite AI tools and cautions against relying solely on publicly available information. The conversation concludes with advice to stay agile, keep learning, and embrace AI as a wave of innovation.
Keywords
AI, HR transformation, continuous improvement, opportunities, risks, responsible AI, governance, trust, ethics, critical thinking, upskilling, education, AI application, data and analytics maturity, customer experience, back office, productivity, upskilling, AI tools, publicly available information, agility, learning, innovation
Takeaways
AI should be seen as a continuous process improvement rather than a one-time transformation.
Transformation in the age of AI is more complex and requires agility and staying ahead of the changing landscape.
The core HR functions, such as payroll and benefits, are essential for setting up more advanced talent capabilities.
Responsible AI practices, including governance, ethics, and trust, are crucial for successful AI implementation.
Cognitive diversity and oversight are necessary to ensure fair and transparent AI decision-making.
AI will impact all industries and roles, and organizations need to adapt and use AI to stay competitive.
Education and upskilling in AI, including responsible AI practices, are essential for individuals and organizations.
Creativity and human skills will always have an edge over AI in certain areas, such as deep storytelling. AI can be used to improve front-end customer experiences and can provide valuable lessons for back-office operations.
Data and analytics maturity is crucial for successful AI implementation.
AI has the potential to increase productivity, but it is important to allocate the saved time to higher-value activities.
Individuals and organizations should invest in upskilling to fully leverage the benefits of AI.
Caution should be exercised when using AI tools that rely on publicly available information.
Stay agile, keep learning, and embrace AI as a wave of innovation.
Sound Bites
"Transformation is not a destination."
"There's more ways than ever to solve your problems."
"The problems haven't changed, just the scale and complexity."
"What do we do with our extra time?"
"Reinvesting time saved in upskilling"
"Excited for the potential of AI"
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:23 Comparing AI Transformation to Previous Transformations
06:12 The Continuous Process of AI Improvement
09:31 The Impact of AI on Core HR Functions
13:38 Navigating the Opportunities and Risks of AI
16:05 Building Trust and Responsible AI Practices
20:30 Upskilling and Education in AI
24:51 Applying AI to Improve Customer Experiences
26:32 The Importance of Data and Analytics Maturity in AI Implementation
27:02 The Potential Impact of AI on Productivity
28:29 Investing in Upskilling for AI Success
29:49 Caution When Using AI Tools with Publicly Available Information
31:58 Embracing AI as a Wave of Innovation
Pete Tiliakos: https://www.linkedin.com/in/petetiliakos
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
29 Oct 2024 | Ep 31: Revolutionizing Employee Experiences Using Human-Centric AI and a Foundation of Trust with Beth White | 00:56:47 | |
In this episode of Elevate Your AIQ, host Bob Pulver speaks with Beth White, founder and CEO of MeBeBot, about the evolution of employee experience and the role of technology in enhancing workplace communication. Beth shares her journey from HR to tech, emphasizing the importance of understanding employee needs and creating a seamless experience through platforms like MeBeBot. The conversation delves into the significance of feedback loops, trust in AI solutions, and the necessity of data governance in the integration of AI in the workplace. In this conversation, Beth White and Bob Pulver discuss the foundational capabilities necessary for successful AI projects, the importance of user permissions, and the evolving landscape of AI regulations. They emphasize the need for trust and responsibility in AI usage, as well as the importance of elevating AI literacy through curiosity and experimentation. The discussion highlights the complexities of navigating AI in the workplace and the potential for significant changes in how organizations operate.
Keywords
Employee Experience, AI Solutions, MeBeBot, HR Technology, Feedback Loops, Data Governance, Trust in AI, Employee Communication, Digital Transformation, Workplace Innovation, AI, data governance, responsible AI, user permissions, AI regulations, ethical AI, AI literacy, trust in AI, AI tools, innovation
Takeaways
Beth White transitioned from HR to tech due to burnout.
Employee experience is crucial for customer satisfaction.
Feedback loops are essential for trust in AI solutions.
AI must be accurate to build user trust.
Data governance is fundamental for AI integration.
Foundational capabilities around data maturity are essential for AI success.
User permissions and data access are critical in AI interactions.
The future of work may shift towards employee-controlled data.
AI regulations are emerging from societal needs and pressures.
Balancing innovation with responsibility is a key challenge in AI legislation.
Trust in AI is a two-way street between employers and employees.
Everyone has a role in ensuring responsible AI usage.
Navigating AI complexities requires structured support and guidance.
Curiosity and experimentation are vital for improving AI literacy.
Practical use cases can help individuals become more comfortable with AI tools.
Sound Bites
"I was burnt out."
"How do you remove the barriers?"
"It's about the employee experience."
"Foundational capabilities are key for AI success."
"User permissions are crucial in AI interactions."
"The future of work could be entirely different."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Employee Experience and Technology
03:01 The Evolution of Employee Experience
06:10 MeBeBot: Bridging Gaps in Employee Communication
08:57 Feedback Loops and Trust in AI Solutions
12:08 Navigating AI and Employee Needs
15:03 The Importance of Accuracy in AI Responses
18:07 Data Governance and AI Integration
21:12 Future of AI in Employee Experience
29:59 Foundational Capabilities for AI Success
36:04 Navigating AI Regulations and Legislation
41:59 Trust and Responsibility in AI Usage
49:58 Elevating AI Literacy and Curiosity
Beth White: https://www.linkedin.com/in/whitebeth
MeBeBot: http://www.mebebot.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
07 Jan 2025 | Ep 48: Responsible Development of Custom AI Agents and Workflows to Empower Small Businesses with Avi Hacker | 00:43:32 | |
Bob Pulver sits down with Avi Hacker, Generative AI expert and Founder of The AI Consultant Network. Avi is an innovative entrepreneur blending his background in finance, law, and AI to help small and medium-sized businesses harness the transformative power of AI. Avi shares his journey from accounting and law to founding an AI consulting company focused on enabling businesses to automate processes, enhance efficiency, and integrate AI responsibly. The conversation explores key concepts like AI governance, human-in-the-loop systems, and leveraging AI for real estate, legal, and operational workflows. Avi also provides practical advice for overcoming AI adoption challenges and scaling its use for maximum impact.
Keywords
AI, automation, responsible AI, AI governance, human-in-the-loop, efficiency, small business AI, AI consulting, workflow automation, legal tech, real estate technology, CRM integration, data-driven decisions, ethical AI use, AI in startups, solopreneurship, custom GPTs, AI assistants, AI adoption.
Key Takeaways
Avi's Journey: Transitioned from finance and law to AI consulting, focusing on small and medium-sized businesses.
Human-in-the-Loop Approach: Critical for ensuring automation is accurate, ethical, and effective.
AI in Real Estate: Significant potential exists for automating document-heavy tasks, such as contract review and title searches.
Custom AI Tools: Avi builds custom GPTs as personal assistants to streamline workflows and save time.
AI Governance: Emphasizes the importance of certifications like SOC 2 and ISO for data security and trust in AI tools.
Starting Small: Avi recommends introducing AI incrementally to get businesses comfortable with the technology.
Empowering Users: Avi educates clients to independently manage and adapt AI tools, ensuring long-term success.
Notable Quotes
"Everyone should have a custom GPT—it's like having a second brain."
"Automation isn't about replacing jobs; it's about amplifying human capability."
"Small businesses often struggle to leverage AI responsibly, but with the right tools, they can operate ten times faster, better, and cheaper."
"AI governance starts with trust—if you lose trust, you've lost everything."
"Even with AI, the human element remains critical for oversight and ethical decision-making."
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Avi Hacker
01:30 - Avi's Background: From Law to AI
03:12 - Founding an AI Consulting Company
06:41 - AI Governance and Responsible Use
08:47 - Applying AI in Real Estate
11:47 - Workflow Automation and Custom GPTs
14:32 - Educating Clients on AI Integration
17:46 - AI for Document Review and Summarization
20:10 - Challenges of AI Context Windows
24:12 - Importance of Human-in-the-Loop Systems
25:43 - Future of AI: Autonomous AI Managers
36:57 - How to Connect with Avi Hacker
37:11 - Final Advice for AI Beginners
Avi Hacker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/avi-hacker
The AI Consulting Network: https://theaiconsultingnetwork.com/
The AI Daily Brief: https://avihacker.substack.com/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
24 Jul 2024 | Ep 3: Opportunities and Challenges of AI in HR with Kyle Lagunas | 00:51:03 | |
Bob Pulver chats with Kyle Lagunas from Aptitude Research about the state of AI in HR. They discuss the evolution of talent and HR technologies, the challenges of responsible AI, and the need for HR professionals to upskill themselves in this area. They also explore the impact of AI on job displacement and the importance of understanding AI technologies and their implications. The conversation explores the importance of trust in implementing AI in HR and the need for collaboration between HR, IT, and data teams. It emphasizes the need for HR to view AI as a toolkit that works for them, not as something being done to them, and to embrace the opportunity for transformation and evolution. The conversation also touches on the challenges of integrating different AI interfaces and the importance of community and sharing best practices.
In this episode, we look at AI in HR, talent and HR technologies, responsible AI, AIQ, job displacement, understanding AI technologies, trust, collaboration, HR transformation, evolution, integration, and best practices.
Key Takeaways
AI is a cornerstone of modern HR operations and it is essential for HR professionals to increase their AI literacy.
The conversation around AI in HR has shifted to include responsible and ethical AI, as AI systems can now interact without prompts or reference libraries.
There is a need to balance the adoption of AI technologies with the potential risks and concerns, such as bias and job displacement.
HR professionals should focus on foundational work, such as automation and intelligent automation, to improve employee experiences and drive better integration across systems.
The entire HR organization needs to be literate in AI technologies and understand the difference between RPA, NLP, machine learning, and knowledge graphs.
Trust is crucial in implementing AI in HR, and HR should view AI as a tool that works for them, not against them.
Collaboration between HR, IT, and data teams is essential for successful AI implementation.
AI has the potential to catalyze the evolution of HR and expand its value proposition.
HR needs to be informed and have an informed perspective on solutioning for AI.
Baseline literacy in AI is important to avoid falling into the trap of shiny object syndrome or being overly cynical.
Community and sharing best practices can help HR navigate the AI landscape.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:23 The Shift to Responsible AI
06:34 Balancing Adoption and Risks
09:31 Automation and Intelligent Automation
13:58 The Need for AI Literacy in HR
26:03 Lack of Trust between Workforce and HR
27:02 Collaboration and the Divide between HR and Workforce
27:59 AI as a Cultural and Human Experience Moment
29:23 Experimentation and Playing with AI
30:11 The Power and Potential of AI in HR
Aptitude Research: https://www.aptituderesearch.com/about-aptitude-research/ | |||
12 Dec 2024 | Ep 44: Proactive and Holistic Recruitment Strategies for Talent Transformation with Brett Coin | 01:09:04 | |
In this live episode from HR Tech 2024, Bob Pulver sits down with Brett Coin, Head of Talent Transformation at Findem, to discuss the future of recruiting and workforce management. Brett shares his journey from a recruiting practitioner to leading AI-driven talent transformation initiatives at Findem. Together, they explore how AI can optimize sourcing, enhance candidate engagement, and challenge traditional recruiting models.
The conversation highlights key strategies for leveraging AI to build proactive talent pools, improve referral quality, and rethink workforce planning with a focus on both full-time and contingent workers. Brett also discusses how Findem is empowering organizations to unlock the value of their internal and external talent networks while addressing long-standing challenges like bias in sourcing and inefficiencies in traditional applicant tracking systems (ATS).
Key Topics:
Proactive Talent Sourcing: Moving beyond job postings to create AI-driven, multi-channel strategies that identify top talent faster.
AI in Recruitment: How Findem’s platform leverages AI to optimize sourcing, refresh ATS databases, and boost recruiter productivity.
Referrals and Internal Mobility: Using AI to identify and engage untapped talent within organizations, including alumni and employee networks.
Education and Adoption: Bridging the gap between leaders’ AI vision and recruiters’ day-to-day habits to ensure successful AI implementation.
Future of Talent Management: How organizations can leverage AI to enhance workforce agility, from internal mobility to contingent workforce planning.
Key Takeaways:
AI tools like Findem are shifting recruitment from reactive to proactive, enabling organizations to identify and engage talent more effectively across multiple channels.
Leveraging AI to refresh ATS data can unlock hidden talent pools, reducing the need for costly external sourcing.
Organizations must prioritize education and alignment between leaders’ strategies and recruiters’ execution to fully realize AI’s potential.
Building intentional talent pools and engaging candidates proactively can significantly enhance response rates and hiring efficiency.
Responsible AI practices, such as minimizing bias and ensuring transparency, are critical for long-term success in AI-driven recruitment.
Sound Bites:
"AI isn’t here to replace recruiters—it’s here to make their work more impactful by eliminating inefficiencies."
"Your ATS isn’t just a database—it’s a goldmine of untapped talent if you know how to access it."
"Recruiting isn’t about filling roles; it’s about building relationships and engaging talent in meaningful ways."
"Organizations need to think holistically about their talent network—employees, alumni, and even contingent workers are part of the same ecosystem."
Chapters:
00:00 - Introduction: Live from HR Tech 2024 with Brett Coin
03:10 - Brett’s Journey: From recruiting practitioner to Head of Talent Transformation at Findem
07:45 - Transforming Sourcing with AI: Leveraging proactive, multi-channel strategies
12:30 - Refreshing ATS Data: Uncovering hidden talent pools with AI
17:20 - Improving Referral Programs: Using AI to enhance referral quality and engagement
23:45 - Internal Mobility and Retention: Rethinking workforce planning with AI insights
30:15 - Bridging the Adoption Gap: Educating recruiters on AI tools
35:50 - Responsible AI in Recruitment: Addressing bias and building trust
41:20 - The Future of Talent Management: Total talent strategy with AI
Brett Coin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brettcoin
Findem: https://findem.ai
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
19 Nov 2024 | Ep 37: How Talent Intelligence and Human-Centric AI Are Impacting Workforce Dynamics with Toby Culshaw | 00:56:50 | |
Bob Pulver and Toby Culshaw, a 20-year talent industry veteran and author of "Talent Intelligence: Use Business and People Data to Drive Organizational Performance," delve into the evolving landscape of talent intelligence, the current dynamics of the labor market, and the impact of AI on workforce management. They discuss the importance of community engagement in talent acquisition, the challenges of employee retention, and the ongoing debate around remote versus in-office work. The conversation highlights the need for transparency in organizational changes and the role of AI in shaping future workforce strategies. Toby and Bob explore how AI and automation are evolving, including the implications for cost dynamics, work redesign, and the redefinition of roles in talent acquisition. They emphasize the importance of maintaining a human element in management and leadership, while also addressing the ethical considerations of AI in the workplace. The discussion highlights the need for creativity and the balance between AI and human input, as well as practical advice for individuals looking to enhance their AI literacy.
Keywords
Talent Intelligence, Labor Market, AI, Employee Engagement, Remote Work, Workforce Management, Community Engagement, Organizational Change, Talent Acquisition, Future of Work, AI, automation, future of work, talent acquisition, human element, leadership, technology, creativity, AI literacy, productivity
Takeaways
Talent intelligence is essential for understanding the external labor market and internal workforce needs.
Current labor market dynamics show low attrition rates due to job security concerns.
Companies need to adapt to the changing workforce dynamics post-COVID.
Understanding the intersection of AI and talent intelligence is crucial for future strategies.
Roles in talent acquisition are likely to be redefined due to AI.
AI can enhance decision-making but should not replace human responsibility.
The future of work will involve more fluid and organic structures.
The community plays a crucial role in sharing knowledge and resources in talent intelligence.
Ethical considerations are crucial when implementing AI in leadership.
Creativity and human touch are essential in content creation.
AI tools should complement rather than replace human roles.
Continuous learning and adaptation are necessary in the age of AI.
Sound Bites
"People want to be treated like a grown up."
"AI is already taking on quite a few tasks."
"We need very clear rules and engagement."
"AI tools should complement the manager."
"We need to rethink success metrics."
"We can't let it be the end editor."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Talent Intelligence and Community Engagement
03:05 The Role of Talent Intelligence in Modern Organizations
06:06 Understanding the Current Labor Market Dynamics
09:00 The Impact of AI on Talent Acquisition and Workforce Management
12:13 Employee Engagement and Retention Strategies
15:14 The Future of Work: Remote vs. In-Office Dynamics
18:12 Navigating Organizational Change and Transparency
21:03 The Intersection of AI and Talent Intelligence
31:02 The Cost Dynamics of AI and Automation
33:22 Navigating the Future of Work
35:42 Redefining Roles in Talent Acquisition
38:54 The Human Element in AI Management
40:47 The Future of Work Structures
42:39 Ethics and AI in Leadership
45:01 Exploring New Technologies in Work
48:56 The Balance of AI and Human Creativity
57:54 Advice for Embracing AI Literacy
Toby Culshaw: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobyculshaw
Talent Intelligence Collective: https://talentintelligencecollective.substack.com/
“Talent Intelligence: Use Business and People Data to Drive Organizational Performance” (Toby’s book): https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Intelligence-Business-Organizational-Performance/dp/1398607231
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
15 Oct 2024 | Ep 27: Thoughtful Design of a Recruiting Platform for a Better Hiring Experience with Benji Encz | 00:42:03 | |
Benji Encz, CEO and Co-founder of Ashby, discusses the background and development of the all-in-one recruiting platform. He explains that the inspiration for Ashby came from his experience as a director of engineering, where he faced pain points with existing tools in the space, particularly around data and reporting, as well as scheduling coordination. Benji saw an opportunity to build a new platform from scratch that addressed these issues and incorporated modern recruiting operations, data analytics, and automation. While initially targeting early-stage companies, Ashby is now expanding to serve enterprise-level customers. Bob Pulver and BenjI discuss the use of automation and AI in the talent acquisition process. They explore the benefits of automation in scheduling interviews and coordinating the hiring process. They also discuss the importance of setting realistic expectations in product development and the value of delivering features iteratively. BenjI shares his thoughts on the potential of AI in areas such as candidate sourcing and matching. They also touch on the need for individuals to embrace learning and adapt to new technologies in order to elevate their AIQ.
Keywords
recruiting platform, Ashby, software engineering, data and reporting, scheduling coordination, recruiting operations, data analytics, automation, ATS, CRM, sourcing, AI capabilities, decision-making, fairness, quality of hire, interview intelligence, scheduling efficiency, automation, AI, talent acquisition, scheduling, product development, expectations, candidate sourcing, candidate matching, learning, AIQ
Takeaways
Ashby was developed to address pain points in the recruiting space, particularly around data and reporting, as well as scheduling coordination.
The platform incorporates modern recruiting operations, data analytics, automation, and features of an ATS, CRM, and sourcing tool.
AI capabilities are being incorporated thoughtfully, focusing on areas such as outbound personalization, advanced candidate search, and resume review assistance.
The goal is to improve the efficiency and fairness of the recruiting process, providing a better experience for both recruiters and candidates.
Automation and AI can greatly improve the efficiency and experience of the talent acquisition process.
Setting realistic expectations in product development is crucial, and delivering features iteratively can help avoid missed timelines and commitments.
AI has the potential to revolutionize candidate sourcing and matching, allowing for more targeted and efficient talent acquisition.
Individuals need to embrace learning and be willing to adapt to new technologies in order to stay competitive in the future of work.
Sound Bites
"Recruiting operations was becoming a thing. Teams were working more with data. People were buying more tools."
"We started with outbound personalization, which LLMs are generally really good at."
"We started with our kind of advanced candidate search, packaging that in natural language."
"What it took to get there is a lot of logic and steps and data to look at and coalesce."
"We've stayed in this more natural state of kind of evolving the product more iteratively."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
08:10 Incorporating Outbound Personalization
14:01 Improving Fairness in the Recruiting Process
23:27 Adoption of Scheduling Technology
28:14 Setting Realistic Expectations in Product Development
35:29 The Potential of AI in Candidate Sourcing and Matching
46:48 Elevating Your AIQ: Embracing Learning and Adapting to New Technologies
Benji Encz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benjaminencz
Ashby: http://www.ashbyhq.com
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
21 Mar 2025 | Ep 59: Navigating Modern Leadership to Drive Human-Centric AI with Phil Wilson | 00:56:11 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with leadership expert Phil Wilson about the evolving landscape of leadership in the age of AI. They discuss the intersection of technology and leadership, the impact of AI on the labor market, and the importance of human creativity in storytelling. Wilson shares insights from his career as a labor lawyer and leadership consultant, emphasizing the need for leaders to adapt to technological changes while maintaining a focus on human skills and creativity. Phil and Bob explore the transformative potential of AI in creative writing, leadership development, and organizational success. They discuss how AI can serve as a thought partner, augmenting human creativity and helping to find connections in vast amounts of data. The importance of authenticity in leadership and the need for organizations to invest in their leaders for better outcomes are emphasized throughout the discussion.
Keywords
leadership, AI, labor market, technology, creativity, job transformation, human skills, automation, storytelling, future of work, AI, creative writing, leadership, authenticity, thought partner, organizational success, technology, innovation, productivity
Takeaways
AI is transforming leadership and productivity.
The labor market is facing a shortage of workers.
Technology can replace mundane tasks, freeing humans for higher-value work.
Leadership must adapt to the changing landscape of work.
Human creativity cannot be replaced by AI.
AI can assist in generating ideas and scenarios for training.
The importance of storytelling in leadership and creativity.
AI's impact on job roles and responsibilities is significant.
Leaders need to understand technology literacy.
The future of work will require a balance between technology and human skills.
AI can generate initial drafts to overcome creative blocks.
Many AI-generated ideas may be subpar, but some can be valuable.
AI can help identify connections between disparate ideas.
Leaders need to invest in their development for better organizational outcomes.
Authentic relationships are crucial for effective leadership.
AI can assist in practicing difficult conversations for leaders.
Using AI can free up time for leaders to connect with their teams.
AI can help summarize and filter relevant research papers.
Organizations benefit from leaders who are approachable and engaged.
AI can enhance the efficiency of content creation and repurposing.
Sound Bites
"AI makes the jobs easier."
"AI can't replace human creativity."
"The creative process is uniquely human."
"AI can help find connections."
"The potential is just unlimited."
"AI as a thought partner."
"Authenticity is key in leadership."
"There's a lot of promise for leaders."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Leadership and AI
03:04 The Impact of AI on Leadership
05:59 Navigating the Labor Market Changes
09:00 The Role of Technology in Job Transformation
12:02 Human Creativity vs. AI
15:09 The Creative Process and AI's Role
17:58 Refining Ideas with AI
28:16 Harnessing AI for Creative Writing
30:30 Augmenting Human Thought with AI
32:26 Finding Connections in Data
36:33 The Role of AI in Leadership Development
40:52 AI as a Thought Partner
43:29 Authenticity in Leadership
51:53 Investing in Leadership for Organizational Success
Phil Wilson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pbwilson
LRI Consulting: http://lrionline.com
Leader Shift Playbook: https://yourleadershift.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Substack: https://elevateyouraiq.substack.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
10 Oct 2024 | Ep 26: The Impact of AI-Powered Platforms and Total Workforce Ecosystems with Ilyse Shuster-Frohman | 00:51:16 | |
Ilyse Shuster-Frohman, Founder and CEO of Mothership, catches up with Bob Pulver to discuss the future of work and the importance of building a total workforce ecosystem. Ilyse highlights the need for organizations to have a centralized platform that can handle diverse talent pools and streamline the hiring process. She also explains the challenges and opportunities of AI and intellectual property ownership in the evolving workplace. Bob and Ilyse talk about the potential of AI and human intelligence working together to create a more efficient and productive workforce. The conversation emphasizes the importance of utilizing the unique skills and capabilities of humans while leveraging AI for tasks that humans struggle with. They also discuss the concept of fractional work, where individuals can work on multiple projects for different employers, allowing them to utilize their full range of skills and avoid boredom. The use of AI in talent assessment and vetting is also explored, highlighting the need for a comprehensive evaluation of both hard and innately human (formerly known as soft) skills. The limitations of current AI tools are acknowledged, with a focus on the importance of human intelligence and critical thinking. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the responsible and ethical use of AI and the need for collaboration to harness the full potential of AI and human intelligence.
Keywords
future of work, total workforce ecosystem, talent marketplace, AI, intellectual property, AI, human intelligence, fractional work, talent assessment, vetting, hard skills, soft skills, limitations of AI, responsible use of AI, collaboration
Takeaways
Building a total workforce ecosystem is crucial for organizations to effectively manage diverse talent pools and streamline the hiring process.
Maintaining relationships with former employees and leveraging their knowledge and expertise can be valuable for organizations.
The future of work involves the integration of AI and the need to define ownership of intellectual property.
The complexity of knowledge work and the potential for AI to codify institutional knowledge raise questions about IP ownership and traceability.
AI and human intelligence can work together to create a more efficient and productive workforce.
Fractional work allows individuals to utilize their full range of skills and avoid boredom.
Comprehensive evaluation of both hard and soft skills is important in talent assessment and vetting.
Current AI tools have limitations and should be used in conjunction with human intelligence and critical thinking.
Responsible and ethical use of AI requires collaboration between employers and employees.
Sound Bites
"Just because you're not employed there doesn't mean that it's in their best interests or in yours to completely leave their community."
"Humans have been expected to be machines for too long and that's a whole separate topic."
"A person can be an IC [individual contributor], full-time worker and perhaps a contingent worker all in the same week."
"[The freelance economy] stretches everybody to the point where they become unlimited earners."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
05:15 Building a Total Workforce Ecosystem
08:29 Leveraging Former Employees' Knowledge and Expertise
12:08 The Integration of AI and Intellectual Property Ownership
18:40 Challenges in Implementing New Workforce Solutions
23:09 The Complexity of Knowledge Work and IP Ownership
29:15 AI and Human Intelligence
30:13 Fractional Work
35:05 Comprehensive Talent Assessment
38:56 Limitations of AI
47:30 Responsible and Ethical Use of AI
Ilyse Shuster-Frohman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilyse-terri-shuster-frohman-89922a2a
Mothership: mothershipcorp.com
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
31 Jan 2025 | Ep 52: Responsible AI and Cognitive Diversity to Drive Talent Transformation with Jen Kirkwood | 00:57:36 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Jen Kirkwood, an expert in HR technology and IT, about her journey into Responsible AI. They discuss the rapid changes in AI, the importance of transparency and governance in AI systems, and the critical role of HR in managing talent and cybersecurity. Jen emphasizes the need for cognitive diversity in AI governance and decision-making. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities that AI presents for HR and the workforce, the importance of data in AI hiring practices, and the role of responsible AI in promoting inclusivity. They explore the rapid evolution of AI in HR, the need for AI ethics and governance, and the critical role of HR in implementing responsible AI practices. The discussion also highlights the value of neurodiversity in innovation and the necessity of balancing technology with human talent in organizations.
Keywords
HR technology, AI, generative AI, workforce optimization, cybersecurity, talent management, responsible AI, data privacy, offboarding, cognitive diversity, AI, hiring, diversity, responsible AI, HR, talent acquisition, data analytics, inclusivity, neurodiversity, technology transformation
Takeaways
Jen Kirkwood has over 28 years of experience in HR technology and IT.
She founded Talvana Consulting to focus on talent optimization.
AI is rapidly changing the landscape of HR and IT.
Transparency in AI systems is crucial for effective governance.
Offboarding processes are often neglected but essential for alumni relations.
Cognitive diversity is important in AI governance committees.
HR must be involved in AI decision-making processes.
Cybersecurity is a critical concern for HR data management.
Inclusivity in hiring practices is vital for innovation.
The future of work requires a focus on skill development and optimization.
Data analytics maturity is crucial for effective hiring practices.
Historical bias in hiring data can perpetuate discrimination.
Responsible AI can uncover overlooked talent pools.
Organizations must prioritize AI ethics and governance.
HR needs to articulate business cases for responsible AI.
Neurodiversity can drive innovation and creativity.
Flexibility in management is essential for diverse teams.
Self-learning and digital literacy are key for organizational transformation.
Sound Bites
"AI models need to be embedded in every use case."
"AI is a team sport."
"The complexity of AI regulations is overwhelming."
"How do we hire more talented engineers?"
"Responsible AI is how we get through this."
"HR is the highest risk area."
"We are all responsible for responsible AI."
"You can't just cut everyone."
"Flexibility is a treasure in management."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Jen Kirkwood and Her Journey
02:50 The Intersection of HR and IT in AI
06:12 Challenges and Opportunities in AI for HR
08:57 The Importance of Transparency and Governance in AI
12:04 Navigating Offboarding and Alumni Relations
15:07 The Role of Cognitive Diversity in AI Governance
18:05 Cybersecurity and Responsible AI Practices
21:08 The Future of Work and Talent Optimization
32:24 The Importance of Data in AI Hiring Practices
34:42 Responsible AI: A Path to Inclusivity
35:41 The Rapid Evolution of AI in HR
39:00 AI Ethics and Governance in Organizations
41:22 The Role of HR in Responsible AI Implementation
45:54 Transforming Organizations Through AI and Inclusivity
51:31 Harnessing Neurodiversity for Innovation
55:31 Balancing Technology and Human Talent
Jen Kirkwood: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenphillipskirkwood/
Talvana Consulting: https://talvanaconsulting.com/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant, and trustworthy. | |||
26 Sep 2024 | Ep 22: The Importance of Continuous Learning in the Age of AI with Chuck Hamilton | 00:52:07 | |
Bob chats with his fellow IBM alum Chuck Hamilton, Chief Innovation Officer at MShaped and Chief Learning Officer at MeetAmi, about the intersection of technology, innovation, and people throughout his career. He shares his experience in crowdsourcing innovation, as well as his work in mentoring startups. Chuck emphasizes the importance of continuous learning and upskilling in the age of AI. He discusses the need for personalized and just-in-time learning, as well as the role of AI in streamlining and condensing information. He also addresses the challenges organizations face in investing in L&D and the importance of developing talent within the company. The conversation explores the use of generative AI in higher education and the benefits it brings to graduates. It also delves into the importance of mentoring and the value of cross-pollination of skills between experienced professionals and newcomers. The discussion touches on the challenges of building effective teams and the potential of AI to optimize team formation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the impact of blockchain on portable digital credentialing and the need for individuals to continuously learn and adapt in the evolving world of AI.
Keywords
technology, innovation, people, crowd innovation, mentoring, startups, learning, upskilling, AI, personalized learning, just-in-time learning, talent development, generative AI, higher education, mentoring, cross-pollination, team formation, blockchain, portable digital credentialing, continuous learning
Takeaways
Continuous learning and upskilling are crucial in the age of AI.
AI can assist in streamlining and condensing information for faster learning.
Organizations need to invest in L&D and talent development to stay competitive.
Personalized and just-in-time learning is essential for effective upskilling. Generative AI in higher education can equip graduates with valuable skills and make them more productive and effective in the workforce.
Mentoring and cross-pollination of skills between experienced professionals and newcomers can lead to better problem-solving and skill development.
AI can assist in team formation by matching complementary skills and considering factors like personality and work style.
Blockchain has the potential to revolutionize portable digital credentialing and improve trust and transparency in hiring and sourcing.
Continuous learning and exploration of AI technologies are essential for individuals to elevate their AIQ and stay relevant in the changing landscape.
Sound Bites
"There probably wasn't a problem we couldn't solve if we could get the right people at the right time in the room at the same time or in the space at the same time."
"No matter where you are on the learning spectrum, there's always a part in your journey, which is I need to know."
"There's an overabundance of information now, and that information needs to be culled and sorted in a way it can be spit back to you so you can absorb it and learn it faster."
"You could actually combine generative AI inside a company with your ability to use it, to be productive and effective and to make data informed decisions."
"We're teaching them to bring more to the table."
"Two in a box, we're going to cross-pollinate our skills. We're going to tackle problems in a cooperative way and solve that problem and we'll work on problems that we can learn from each other."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:11 The Intersection of Technology, Innovation, and People
07:07 Crowd Innovation and Mentoring Startups
13:09 The Role of AI in Learning and Upskilling
16:18 Challenges in Investing in L&D and Talent Development
26:09 Mentoring and Cross-Pollination of Skills
27:06 AI's Potential in Team Formation
28:34 Blockchain and Portable Digital Credentialing
50:28 Continuous Learning to Elevate AIQ
Chuck Hamilton: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chuck-hamilton1 | |||
09 Jan 2025 | Ep 49: Mitigating Bias and Strengthening DEI through Human-Centric AI with Torin Ellis | 00:57:03 | |
Bob Pulver and Torin Ellis, a prominent voice in diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB), discuss these topics in the context of the evolving landscape of artificial intelligence (AI) and the implications for the workforce. They reflect on the challenges faced in 2024, including political pressures on DEI initiatives, the importance of cognitive diversity, and the need for responsible AI practices. The discussion emphasizes the significance of collaboration, accountability, and the potential for AI to contribute positively to DEI efforts while acknowledging the necessity for legislative frameworks to guide ethical AI use. Bob and Torin emphasize the importance of reskilling and ethical AI practices, discuss how AI can uncover hidden talent, the distinction between augmented intelligence and automation, and the necessity of human-centric approaches to AI. The conversation also highlights the challenges organizations face in addressing bias and the critical role of responsible AI in promoting diversity and inclusion. Ultimately, they advocate for a future where AI is leveraged to create equitable opportunities and enhance organizational effectiveness.
Keywords
DEI, AI, bias mitigation, cognitive diversity, responsible AI, legislation, workforce, diversity strategy, workforce reskilling, augmented intelligence, human-centric AI, diversity and inclusion, responsible AI, bias mitigation, ethical AI, organizational change
Takeaways
Political pressures have negatively impacted DEI initiatives.
The removal of 'equity' from DEI discussions is concerning.
Progress in AI and DEI is being made, but more is needed.
Cognitive diversity enhances decision-making in organizations.
Responsible AI requires accountability from vendors and organizations.
Legislation is lagging behind technological advancements.
The future of work will require re-skilling to keep pace with AI.
Organizations must invest in reskilling to adapt to AI advancements.
AI can help uncover overlooked talent in hiring processes.
Augmented intelligence should enhance human capabilities, not replace them.
Human-centric AI is essential for ethical and responsible technology use.
Many organizations are hesitant to embrace AI due to concerns about bias.
AI can significantly improve diversity and inclusion efforts in hiring.
Responsible AI practices are crucial for maintaining ethical standards.
Sound Bites
"I'm chasing the word promise 365 days this year."
"I'm all things people."
"I believe that progress is being made."
"Cognitive diversity is incredibly important."
"You can use AI to unearth talent."
"AI is augmenting your own capabilities."
"AI is good for business."
"We're building a manager intelligence platform."
Chapters
00:00 New Year Reflections and Words of the Year
01:48 Torin Ellis: Background and DEI Work
03:07 Reflections on 2024: Political Climate and DEI Challenges
06:45 AI's Role in DEI and Bias Mitigation
13:08 Cognitive Diversity and Its Importance
19:54 Responsible AI and Legislative Challenges
24:45 The Future of AI and Workforce Implications
31:45 AI's Role in Uncovering Hidden Talent
33:46 Augmented Intelligence vs. Automation
35:39 Human-Centric AI: Ethics and Responsibility
38:03 Understanding AI's Limitations and Bias
42:25 The Impact of AI on Diversity and Inclusion
45:50 The Need for Responsible AI Practices
49:48 Addressing Systemic Inequities with AI
51:20 Building a Better Future with AI
Torin Ellis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/torinellis
Torin Ellis Brand: https://torinellis.com/
Reducing Bias in HR Using AI: https://www.plum.io/report-reducing-bias-in-hr
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
28 Feb 2025 | Ep 56: Curiosity, Data Literacy, and Trust to Catalyze AI Adoption with Ceci Dones | 00:50:01 | |
Bob Pulver engages with Ceci Dones, an educator, lecturer, academic researcher, and the founder of 3 Standard Deviations. She focuses on data literacy, technology adoption, and trust and authenticity in tech-mediated communications. They explore the complexities of trust in AI, the importance of data literacy, and the need for curiosity, creativity, and critical thinking in navigating the AI landscape. Ceci shares her journey from marketing to academia, emphasizing the significance of understanding data quality and governance. The conversation also touches on the role of AI in education, the ethical implications of AI, and the future of human-AI collaboration.
Keywords
AI, data literacy, ethics, education, critical thinking, curiosity, creativity, technology, trust, authenticity
Takeaways
Ceci Dones is a hybrid professional in AI and data literacy.
Understanding data quality is crucial for effective AI implementation.
Curiosity, creativity, and critical thinking are essential skills in the AI era.
Data literacy does not mean everyone must be a data scientist.
AI should be used as a coach, not just a calculator.
Young people have a clear understanding of fairness in technology.
We must not lose our inherent sense of fairness as we mature.
The future of AI is exciting yet uncertain.
We are still in the early stages of understanding AI's impact.
The conversation around AI ethics is becoming increasingly important.
Sound Bites
"What does AI mean for organizations?"
"Garbage in, garbage out."
"Curiosity, creativity, critical thinking."
"You don't have to be a data scientist."
"We are still figuring this out."
"We come pre-programmed with ideas of fairness."
"How do we not lose the humanness?"
"AI should be a coach, not a calculator."
"This is all so exciting and terrifying."
"It's only chapter one."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI and Trust
02:47 The Journey of a Hybrid Professional
06:02 Data Literacy and AI Implementation
09:11 Curiosity, Creativity, and Critical Thinking
11:57 Navigating Data Literacy Without Overwhelm
18:10 The Role of AI in Education
22:04 AI Ethics and Responsibility
36:59 The Future of AI and Human Interaction
Ceci Dones: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ceciliadones
3 Standard Deviations: https://www.3standarddeviations.com/
What Is a CMO to Do With AI?: https://www.linkedin.com/newsletters/7182036727794909184/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
08 Aug 2024 | Ep 8: Designing Human-Centric Recruiting Experiences with Martyn Redstone | 00:53:06 | |
Recruiting industry veteran and conversational AI expert Martyn Redstone joins Bob Pulver to delve into the transformative impact of AI on talent acquisition. They discuss the evolution of conversational AI, the importance of responsible and human-centric AI, and the need for proper governance and education around AI ethics. The conversation highlights the challenges of AI regulation and the role of different stakeholders in ensuring compliance. Overall, Bob and Martyn emphasize the need for organizations to understand and operationalize AI in a responsible and efficient manner. They cover AI use cases and implications across talent acquisition, including candidate engagement and screening, and the importance of cognitive diversity in designing human-centric solutions and experiences. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the need for individuals to embrace AI as a standard part of their personal and professional lives.
In this episode we look at: AI, talent acquisition, chatbots, conversational AI, automation, AI ethics, AI regulation, compliance, AI literacy, systems thinking, design thinking, cognitive diversity, candidate experience, AI governance, upskilling.
Key Takeaways
Conversational AI, including chatbots and voicebots, is increasingly relevant in talent acquisition and business operations.
Understanding and differentiating AI terminology is crucial for effective implementation, as all chatbots are essentially software-driven conversations.
Chatbot technology has evolved from basic decision trees to advanced natural language understanding and large language models.
Integrating large language models into chatbot technology stacks can improve conversational experiences.
There is a growing recognition of the need for governance and responsible AI, but more action is needed to operationalize it.
Effective AI regulation and compliance require ongoing education and integration of responsible AI practices within organizations.
Responsible AI governance involves diverse stakeholders and should be part of onboarding and training processes.
Responsible AI requires a human-centric approach and should be an extension of existing data protection and cybersecurity processes.
Transparency is crucial when using conversational AI to ensure ethical practices and manage user expectations.
Automation in screening processes can help alleviate capacity issues and improve the candidate experience.
Designing for a better candidate experience can lead to better outcomes for all parties involved in talent acquisition.
Combining systems thinking and design thinking creates a hybrid approach that enhances both process efficiency and candidate experience.
AIQ is not just about technical skills, but also about mindset, adaptability, and readiness to embrace AI as a standard part of life.
Chapters
**00:00** Introduction and Background
**01:13** The Evolution of Chatbots and Conversational AI
**09:17** Navigating AI Regulation and Compliance
**19:18** Educating Employees on AI Ethics and Compliance
**25:47** Moving Towards Operationalizing Responsible AI
**28:24** The Use of AI in Candidate Engagement
**34:52** Ethics of AI in Recruitment
**38:16** Automation in Screening Processes
**41:55** Designing for a Better Candidate Experience
**47:20** Thinking both Tactically and Strategically in Talent Acquisition
**52:29** Embracing AI as a Standard Part of Life
PPLBOTS: https://www.pplbots.com/
Martyn Redstone: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mredstone/
H.A.I.R. - AI in HR Community: https://nas.io/hair
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12 Sep 2024 | Ep 18: Crowdsourcing and AI to Solve Data Challenges with Justin Strharsky | 00:48:56 | |
Justin Strharsky, co-founder of humyn.ai, joins Bob Pulver to discuss the power of collective intelligence and the role of AI in solving complex problems. He explains how humyn.ai uses competition and collaboration to bring together a global community of data scientists to solve data challenges. Humyn.ai's crowdsourcing approach has proven very effective, where multiple independent solutions can lead to higher confidence and the discovery of valuable outlier answers. Strharsky emphasizes the importance of constraints and the right incentives to maximize contributions and ensure the best outcomes. It's a wide-ranging and insightful discussion on myriad topics, each relevant to the future of work design and dynamic workforce ecosystems.
Keywords
collective intelligence, AI, data science, competition, collaboration, constraints, incentives, outcomes
Takeaways
Collective intelligence, where multiple independent solutions are combined, can lead to higher confidence and the discovery of valuable outlier answers.
Constraints and the right incentives are important in maximizing contributions and ensuring the best outcomes.
AI can function as a thought partner, stimulating creativity and enhancing human problem-solving abilities.
The power of AI lies in its ability to free up time and resources, solve mundane problems, and create a world of abundance.
It is important to have a clear understanding of the problem at hand and to critically evaluate AI outputs to avoid being overwhelmed or misled.
Sound Bites
"More answers are better than one."
"Constraints matter in maximizing contributions and outcomes."
"Generative AI is fantastic for finding commonalities and driving decisions."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:16 Competition and Collaboration in Solving Data Challenges
07:17 IP Ownership and Collaboration Opportunities
09:17 The Power of Cognitive Diversity and Subject Matter Expertise
13:59 Finding the Right Constraints for Optimal Solutions
22:15 Transparency, Observability, and Intellectual Property
25:04 The Need for Responsible and Ethical AI Use
28:33 The Potential of AI in Enhancing Human Thinking
31:39 The Importance of Engaging with AIQ and Avoiding Over-Optimism
36:05 The Value of Solving Mundane Problems and Creating a World of Abundance
39:01 The Future of AI and Collective Intelligence
42:10 Navigating the AI Landscape and Ensuring Clear Understanding
45:17 The Importance of Critical Evaluation and Avoiding Overwhelm
46:33 Elevating AIQ: Engaging with Tools Practically and Focusing on Problem Solving
Justin Strharsky: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justin-strharsky
https://humyn.ai | |||
14 Nov 2024 | Ep 36: Storytelling as a Critical Human Skill in the Age of AI with Joe Lazer | 00:46:23 | |
Bob Pulver and Joe Lazer explore the evolution of AI, its implementation challenges in business, and the importance of storytelling in the age of AI. Joe shares his personal journey in the AI space, discussing his experiences at Contently and A-Team, and how companies are navigating the complexities of AI adoption. Bob and Joe delve into the significance of the human touch in content creation and the future of AI detection. They explore the importance of maintaining authenticity and unique human elements in quality storytelling. They discuss the potential dangers of relying too heavily on AI, particularly in the context of youth engagement and the development of communication skills. The conversation also touches on practical advice for writers on how to leverage AI as a thought partner while preserving their unique voice and ideas. Finally, they speculate on the future of storytelling in the age of AI, highlighting the need for responsible use and the potential for collective intelligence in creative processes.
Keywords
AI, storytelling, business strategy, generative AI, content marketing, innovation, technology, entrepreneurship, partnerships, implementation challenges, AI, content creation, authenticity, storytelling, digital twins, youth engagement, writing therapy, responsible AI, creativity, technology
Takeaways
Storytelling is becoming increasingly important in the age of AI.
Understanding client needs is crucial for successful AI projects.
Partnerships and ecosystems are essential for AI development.
The last mile of AI implementation is often the hardest.
Generative AI is reshaping business strategies.
AI detection tools are still in development.
The future of work will heavily rely on soft skills; AI can enhance productivity but shouldn't replace original thinking.
Authenticity in storytelling is crucial; AI cannot replicate personal experiences.
Digital twins may undermine trust and authenticity in content creation.
Younger audiences are drawn to authentic, relatable content.
AI tools can serve as thought partners for writers.
Storytelling will be a vital skill in the AI age.
AI can help connect disparate ideas and personal stories.
Curiosity and hands-on experience with AI tools are essential.
The future of storytelling may involve collective intelligence and co-creation.
Responsible AI use is critical, especially concerning youth engagement.
Sound Bites
"AI has created a groundswell of interest."
"What's the actual high ROI use case?"
"Every company wants to talk to their data."
"We need better watermarking and AI detection."
"AI content is often dull and soulless."
"Digital twins defeat the point of authenticity."
"Nobody wants personalized versions of TV shows."
"AI can be a thought partner for writers."
"Be curious; spend 10 hours using AI tools."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI and Personal Background
03:14 The Evolution of AI in Business
05:59 Navigating AI Implementation Challenges
09:04 Understanding Client Needs and Market Dynamics
11:47 The Role of Storytelling in the Age of AI
15:01 Building Partnerships and Ecosystems
17:53 Personal Projects and Future Aspirations
20:59 The Importance of Human Touch in AI Content
23:57 AI Detection and the Future of Content Creation
26:58 The Role of AI in Content Creation
30:12 Authenticity vs. Digital Twins
32:36 The Human Element in Storytelling
34:36 Navigating AI's Impact on Youth
36:46 Writing Therapy and AI as a Thought Partner
43:41 Future Horizons of AI in Storytelling
Joe Lazer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-lazer-lazauskas-8b442026
Joe’s blog: https://storytellingedge.substack.com/
Joe’s book, “The Storytelling Edge”: https://www.amazon.com/Storytelling-Edge-Transform-Business-Screaming/dp/1119483352/
A.Team: https://www.a.team/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
21 Nov 2024 | Ep 38: Establishing a Foundation of Trust and Assurance in AI-Powered Solutions with Jeff Pole | 00:50:25 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Jeff Pole, co-founder and CEO of Warden AI, about the critical issues surrounding trust in AI technology, particularly in the context of HR and recruitment. They discuss the importance of third-party assurance in AI systems, the fluidity of AI terminology, and the need for continuous monitoring to ensure compliance and fairness. Jeff shares insights on how AI can potentially enhance fairness in hiring practices and the implications of emerging AI legislation across the globe. Bob and Jeff discuss the widespread issue of age discrimination in hiring, and Warden AI’s newly announced capabilities to check for age bias in AI-powered hiring solutions. They explore future opportunities and challenges in Responsible AI governance, including the implications of existing discrimination laws, the need for comprehensive data to assess bias, and the evolving landscape of AI adoption in various sectors, particularly in the public domain. Bob and Jeff conclude by emphasizing the importance of balance between innovation and ethical considerations in AI to maintain trust across stakeholder communities.
Keywords
AI, trust, assurance, governance, HR technology, bias, compliance, monitoring, legislation, fairness, AI, age bias, discrimination, responsible AI, governance, technology, workforce, regulations, innovation, public sector
Takeaways
AI technology can be a force for good if used correctly.
Warden AI focuses on third-party assurance for AI systems.
Continuous monitoring of AI is crucial for trustworthiness.
The terminology around AI governance is fluid and evolving.
Legislation is pushing for more transparency in AI processes.
AI can help identify and correct bias in recruitment.
The potential for AI to improve fairness in hiring is significant.
Emerging laws will likely increase scrutiny on AI systems.
AI can help unlock hidden talent pools in the workforce.
The future of AI in HR is about enhancing diversity and inclusion.
Age discrimination is a significant issue in hiring.
AI systems must comply with existing discrimination laws.
The first AI bias lawsuit was related to age discrimination.
Employers can unintentionally lead to discriminatory outcomes.
Five generations will soon be part of the workforce.
Data collection is crucial for assessing AI bias.
Counterfactual analysis is a technique to test AI systems.
Responsible AI practices can coexist with innovation.
AI literacy is essential for effective adoption.
AI adoption is a gradual process, not an immediate change.
Sound Bites
"How can we trust and safely adopt AI?"
"Technology can be a force for good in society."
"We're working on age bias detection capability."
"The first AI bias lawsuit was for age bias."
"We have to keep in mind existing legislation."
"Five generations will be in the workforce soon."
"We bring our own data to test AI systems."
"Counterfactual analysis helps assess AI bias."
"AI can augment human processes effectively."
"It's a marathon, not a sprint with AI adoption."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to AI and Trust Issues
03:00 Warden AI's Mission and Assurance Role
05:50 Understanding AI Terminology and Governance
08:51 The Importance of Continuous Monitoring
12:13 AI in HR: Opportunities and Challenges
14:45 The Role of Legislation in AI Assurance
18:10 AI's Potential for Fairness in Hiring
21:05 The Future of AI and Workforce Diversity
28:59 Addressing Age Bias in AI Systems
41:24 Navigating Responsible AI and Governance
50:34 The Future of AI: Opportunities and Cautions
Jeff Pole: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffrey-pole-91887a44
Warden AI: https://www.warden-ai.com/
Addressing Age Discrimination: https://www.warden-ai.com/blog/age-bias-ai-hiring-age-discrimination-fairer-recruitment
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
08 Oct 2024 | Ep 25: Increasing Fairness in Hiring Through AI-powered Interview Intelligence with Mark Simpson | 00:48:38 | |
Mark Simpson, Founder and CEO of Pillar, joins Bob Pulver to discuss the evolution of AI in HR and the challenges in the interview process. Mark highlights the importance of mitigating human bias by making interviews more efficient, effective, and equitable. He explains how Pillar’s interview intelligence platform uses AI to guide interviews, provide interview questions, and summarize conversations. The goal is to save time for recruiters, improve decision-making, and create a more data-driven and fair interview process. The conversation explores the topic of Quality of Hire and the responsibility of Talent Acquisition as it relates to this important metric. Bob and Mark discuss the importance of considering the entire talent lifecycle, from applicant to alumni, and identifying potential issues that may lead to early employee turnover. They also touch on the use of AI in HR and the potential for AI to revolutionize the industry. The conversation concludes with a discussion on personal and organizational adoption of AI, the need for responsible use, and the importance of upskilling.
Keywords
AI, HR, interview process, efficiency, effectiveness, equity, interview insights, interview intelligence, hiring decisions, biases, data-driven, fair assessment, quality of hire, talent acquisition, talent lifecycle, employee turnover, AI in HR, AI adoption, responsible AI, upskilling
Takeaways
The interview process is a critical area where AI can make a significant impact by making it more efficient, effective, and equitable.
Pillar focuses on interview insights and intelligence to improve the quality of hiring decisions.
AI can help mitigate biases in the interview process and ensure a fair assessment of candidates.
The goal is to create a more data-driven and fair interview process that leads to better hiring outcomes.
Talent acquisition should consider the entire talent lifecycle to identify potential issues that may lead to early employee turnover.
AI has the potential to revolutionize HR, but responsible use and governance are crucial.
Personal adoption of AI is important for staying informed and prepared for the future.
Organizations should embrace AI and upskill their teams to leverage its capabilities effectively.
Experimentation and continuous learning are key to maximizing the benefits of AI.
Sound Bites
"With AI, we can understand what questions were people asked, what skills they have, how well they were interviewed, what the conversation was all about."
"AI-generated video clips can replay what people have said around their skills, enabling data-driven decision-making."
"Talent acquisition doesn't think they own quality of hire."
"AI has been around for decades, but it's been very hard to access."
"Artificial intelligence and emotional intelligence will be part of the fifth industrial revolution."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:04 The Evolution of AI in HR
06:26 The Challenges in the Interview Process
10:56 Focus on Interview Insights and Intelligence
14:43 Tackling Summarization and Mitigating Biases
18:11 Involving Interviewers in the Process
21:10 The Impact on Tenure and Engagement
26:11 Measuring Quality of Hire and Reducing Turnover
26:58 The Role of Talent Acquisition in Quality of Hire
32:22 The Potential of AI in HR
40:03 Personal and Org Adoption of AI
46:04 Responsible Use of AI and Upskilling
Mark Simpson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markjsimpson
Pillar: https://pillar.hr
AI-Generated Interview Guide (skills-based interview questions to ask based on your JD)
Job Description Analyzer (inclusive language, excessive jargon, etc.)
Aptitude Research Report (The Impact of Interview Intelligence on Speed, Fairness, & Quality of Hire)
Blog: One In Four Interviews Are Biased
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
31 Oct 2024 | Ep 32: The Transformational Impact of AI Agents and Agentic Workflows with Tyler Fisk | 01:13:30 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Tyler Fisk, who is currently the co-founder of two AI consultancies, Light Magic AI and Galactic Ranch, where they design, build, and implement customized AI solutions. Tyler has a knack for seeing what’s next and seizing opportunities, and his backstory is really interesting. Bob and Tyler talk about the evolution of AI in business, the importance of responsible AI practices, and AI’s potential transform workflows and knowledge work with AI agents. They discuss the challenges and opportunities presented by AI, including its impact on employment and the future of education. Tyler shares insights from his experiences with various AI projects, emphasizing the need for customization and ethical considerations in AI development. The conversation highlights the importance of AI literacy and the potential for AI to help solve many challenges facing organizations of all sizes. It's a longer episode than usual, but well worth your time. And if you are doubting whether AI can handle some of your unique use cases, this episode is a must listen.
Keywords
AI, agents, agentic workflows, automation, entrepreneurship, education, responsible AI, employment, technology, innovation
Takeaways
AI is transforming business workflows and knowledge work.
Customization of AI solutions is crucial for effectiveness.
Responsible AI practices are essential for ethical development.
AI can help scale businesses and improve efficiency.
Education systems need to adapt to incorporate AI.
The future of work will involve collaboration with AI.
Understanding AI literacy is vital for professionals.
AI has the potential to address global challenges.
Ethics in AI development must be prioritized.
The pace of AI advancement requires continuous learning.
Sound Bites
"I want to get as many people involved in this space."
"AI can help us achieve some of those things."
"They didn't think it could be done."
"There's no time like right now to begin."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of Tyler Fisk
02:55 The Evolution of AI in Business
05:56 Understanding AI Workflows and Adoption
08:55 The Role of AI in Knowledge Work
11:50 Ethics and Responsibility in AI Development
14:57 AI's Impact on Employment and Workforce Dynamics
17:53 The Future of AI and Education
20:51 Agentic Workflows and Real-World Applications
24:11 The Importance of Customization in AI Solutions
26:56 Final Thoughts on AI's Potential and Challenges
Tyler Fisk: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tyfisk
Light Magic AI: https://www.lightmagic.ai/
Maven course: https://maven.com/sara-davison/scale-with-aiworkflows-foundations
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
05 Nov 2024 | Ep 33: Why Structured and Inclusive Hiring is Essential for Talent Transformation and Growth with Jon Stross | 00:53:07 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Jon Stross, President and Co-founder of Greenhouse, about his journey to entrepreneurship and the attributes critical to his success. They talk about the evolution of talent acquisition technology, the importance of structured interviewing, and the changing landscape of recruitment. Bob and Jon also discuss the significance of candidate experience, the role of AI in hiring processes, and the need for organizations to commit to improving their hiring maturity. Jon also introduces the Greenhouse Verified program, aimed at enhancing candidate communication and experience, and shares insights on how companies can leverage AI responsibly in their recruitment efforts.
Keywords
Talent Acquisition, Recruitment Technology, Greenhouse, Structured Interviewing, Hiring Maturity, Candidate Experience, AI in Recruitment, Talent Landscape, Greenhouse Verified, Candidate Communication
Takeaways
Jon Stross has had a long career in software and internet products, always maintaining a learning mindset.
Greenhouse is a hiring software platform that manages the entire recruitment process.
Structured interviewing helps mitigate bias and drive fairness in hiring.
Hiring maturity is crucial for organizations to improve their recruitment processes.
The talent landscape is changing with remote work and flexible hiring options.
Greenhouse Verified highlights companies that treat candidates well, giving candidates greater confidence in employers.
AI can enhance recruitment processes but must be used responsibly.
Candidate communication is essential for a positive hiring experience.
Recruiters should focus on long-term relationships with candidates.
Existing vendors can provide AI solutions to improve recruitment efficiency.
Sound Bites
"How do you get great at hiring?"
"We help people run a structured interviewing process."
"We created an open API that made it really easy."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Talent Acquisition and Greenhouse
03:12 The Evolution of Recruitment Technology
05:59 Structured Interviewing and Mitigating Bias
08:59 Hiring Maturity and Organizational Commitment
12:05 The Changing Talent Landscape
15:13 Greenhouse Verified: Enhancing Candidate Experience
17:46 AI in Recruitment: Opportunities and Challenges
21:09 The Importance of Candidate Communication
23:50 The Role of AI in Hiring Processes
27:14 The Future of Talent Acquisition
30:02 Conclusion and Key Takeaways
Jon Stross: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonstross
Greenhouse: https://www.greenhouse.com/
Talent Makers (Jon’s book): https://www.amazon.com/Talent-Makers-Organizations-Structured-Inclusive/dp/1119785278
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
10 Dec 2024 | Ep 43: Collective Intelligence Meets Artificial Intelligence to Create Scalable Digital Advisors with Kevin Clark | 00:59:36 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Kevin Clark, President and Founder of Content Evolution. They discuss Kevin's extensive background at IBM (where Bob and Kevin first crossed paths), Kevin's transition into consulting, and the innovative work being done at Content Evolution, particularly in the realm of AI and digital advisors. The conversation emphasizes the importance of asking better questions when interacting with and training AI, and the evolving nature of content and customer engagement. Bob and Kevin focus much of the discussion on the transformative impact of AI on individual and collective intelligence, the evolution of job roles, and the necessity for organizations to adapt to both technology and employee expectations. They discuss the importance of harnessing collective intelligence even in the age of AI (which Kevin has just published a book about), the future of customized Digital Advisors, the concept of ‘digital inheritance’, and the impact of reverse mentoring on technology adoption.
Keywords
AI, Content Evolution, Digital Advisors, Leadership Development, IBM, Innovation, Customer Experience, Market Research, Strategy, Technology, AI, collective intelligence, job descriptions, organizational change, digital advisors, digital inheritance, roles, automation, technology, future of work
Takeaways
Kevin Clark transitioned from a 30-year career at IBM to consulting.
Content Evolution focuses on innovation and strategic directions.
Digital advisors are customized AI tools that reflect individual expertise.
Asking better questions is crucial for success in the AI era.
Character and competence are essential for effective leadership.
The landscape of customer experience is rapidly changing with AI.
Organizations must adapt to leverage skills on demand.
The importance of understanding undiscovered functionalities in technology.
Collaboration and collective intelligence drive innovation at Content Evolution.
The future of work will require agility and adaptability in teams.
AI is augmenting both individual and collective intelligence.
Job descriptions are evolving; roles need to be more fluid.
Organizations must adapt to the changing fitness landscape.
Collective intelligence can enhance decision-making processes.
Digital advisors can provide valuable insights and reflections.
Creating a digital inheritance can pass down knowledge and experiences.
Roles should be prioritized over rigid job descriptions.
Embracing technology is essential for career significance.
Reverse mentoring can bridge the technology gap in organizations.
Organizing information is key to leveraging AI effectively.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Kevin Clark's Journey
12:20 Content Evolution and Its Mission
17:36 Digital Advisors and AI Customization
25:16 The Importance of Asking Better Questions
33:39 The Evolution of Job Descriptions
39:15 Harnessing Collective Intelligence
45:17 The Future of Digital Advisors
53:57 Redefining Roles in Organizations
Kevin Clark: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-clark-0057b81
Content Evolution: https://contentevolution.net/
“Collective Intelligence in the Age of AI” (Kevin’s book): https://www.amazon.com/Collective-Intelligence-Age-Kevin-Clark/dp/B0DKDB9WTH/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
19 Dec 2024 | Ep 46: AI, Leadership, and Transformation: Building Adaptable Organizations with Pauline James and David Creelman | 00:57:01 | |
Bob Pulver is joined by Pauline James and David Creelman to discuss the transformative impact of AI on employee experience and organizational change. They discuss the evolving role of HR and leadership in navigating AI adoption, emphasizing the importance of continuous learning, data-driven decision-making, and fostering a culture of adaptability and innovation. The conversation highlights ethical considerations in AI, advocating for responsible governance, oversight committees, and transparent policies to ensure fairness and compliance. They reflect on lessons from the pandemic in driving rapid transformation and the necessity for agile workforce planning to balance cost, capability, and strategy. Pauline and David share their insights on experimenting with generative AI tools, building intuition through hands-on learning, and the critical role of foundational skills like AI literacy and design thinking. They leave you with advice for leaders on effectively managing change, along with details about Pauline and David’s upcoming masterclasses and events.
Key Topics Discussed:
AI and Organizational Change: The role of AI in workforce transformation and how it’s reshaping leadership, employee roles, and collaboration.
Upskilling for the Future: Why continuous learning and fostering AI literacy are essential for both leaders and employees.
Breaking Down Silos: Strategies to remove barriers to collaboration and align organizational goals in the age of AI.
Responsible AI: The importance of governance, transparency, and ethical practices in implementing AI solutions.
AI Augmentation vs. Automation: Real-world examples of using AI to enhance human capabilities, from creating content to personalized learning.
Strategic Workforce Planning: How organizations can rethink processes, roles, and incentives to align with AI-driven opportunities.
Takeaways for Listeners:
AI adoption requires cultural shifts, leadership alignment, and trust-building across all organizational levels.
Continuous upskilling, including AI literacy and data literacy, is critical for staying ahead of technological advancements.
Leaders must move from managing tasks to managing outcomes, leveraging AI to empower teams rather than micromanage.
Organizations should focus on responsible AI practices, ensuring compliance, transparency, and inclusivity at every stage.
Experimentation and hands-on learning with AI tools can drive innovation and help organizations unlock new opportunities.
Notable Quotes:
Pauline James: “The importance of transparency and training to mitigate risks cannot be overstated.”
David Creelman: “We need to experiment hands-on to learn what AI can and can’t do—this is critical for its integration.”
Bob Pulver: “Leaders need to understand AI’s impact to make informed, data-driven decisions for their organizations.”
Chapters
00:00 – Welcome and Introductions
03:00 – AI in Workforce Transformation
06:45 – Leadership in the AI Era
10:30 – Breaking Silos for Collaboration
14:20 – Upskilling and AI Literacy
18:10 – AI Augmentation vs. Automation
22:35 – Lessons from Rapid Change
27:15 – Responsible AI and Governance
32:40 – Experimentation and AI Tools
37:50 – AI’s Rapid Evolution
43:25 – Strategic Workforce Planning with AI
48:00 – Final Thoughts and Upcoming Projects
For more resources, visit:
Pauline’s company website: Anchor-HR
David Creelman’s publications and insights: David Creelman
Upcoming events: HR Gazette
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
06 Aug 2024 | Ep 7: Building More Dynamic and Comprehensive Candidate Profiles with Dina Bay | 00:43:29 | |
Dina Bay from PitchMe discusses the challenges in talent acquisition and the need for a more effective way to match candidates with job opportunities. She explains how PitchMe is addressing the problem of resume imperfection and the limitations of traditional hiring processes by building an AI-powered real-time professional profile using digital footprints. Dina also highlights the importance of measuring performance and process metrics in talent acquisition and the need for organizations to adopt technology to improve efficiency. She emphasizes the need for responsible AI and the importance of evaluating the boundaries of AI usage in personal and professional life.
In this episode we look at:
talent acquisition, resume imperfection, AI-powered profile, digital footprints, performance metrics, process metrics, technology adoption, and responsible AI.
Key Takeaways
Traditional hiring methods struggle with resume imperfection and static professional profiles.
PitchMe’s AI-powered real-time profiles, built from digital footprints, offer a solution to these hiring challenges.
Measuring performance and process metrics is essential for improving talent acquisition efficiency.
Organizations must embrace new technology to stay ahead in the evolving tech landscape.
Responsible AI usage involves carefully evaluating its impact on personal and professional boundaries.
Sound Bites
"We struggled to employ relevant people when I was already working in oil and gas."
"We bring in non-conventional data sources that would have been overlooked otherwise."
"Time to fill and time to hire are not just about efficiency, it's about reducing the revolving door."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of PitchMe
04:00 Challenges in Talent Acquisition and Resume Imperfection
08:55 The Importance of Measuring Performance and Process Metrics
14:32 Navigating the Endless Tech Landscape in Talent Acquisition
23:23 Building an AI-Powered Real-Time Professional Profile
33:04 Responsible AI Usage: Evaluating Boundaries in Personal and Professional Life
43:10 Elevate Your AIQ: Improving AI Literacy and Proficiency
PitchMe: https://pitchme.co/ | |||
10 Sep 2024 | Ep 17: Bias Mitigation for Better Hiring Decisions with Dr. Shiran Danoch | 00:48:19 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Dr. Shiran Danoch, CEO and Founder of Informed Decisions, an interview intelligence platform, about the use of AI in the hiring process. They discuss the importance of data-driven and skills-based hiring, as well as the need for infrastructure and guidance to mitigate bias in AI algorithms. They also emphasize the value of feedback for candidates and the role of responsible AI in improving decision-making. Shiran shares her favorite AI tools for content writing and data analysis, as well as her advice for upskilling in AI and staying curious.
Keywords
AI in hiring, data-driven hiring, skills-based hiring, bias mitigation, feedback for candidates, responsible AI, AI tools, upskilling in AI
Takeaways
Data-driven and skills-based hiring are becoming more prevalent in the recruitment process.
Infrastructure and guidance are necessary to mitigate bias in AI algorithms.
Providing feedback to candidates is crucial for their growth and improvement.
Responsible AI can enhance decision-making and improve diversity and inclusion efforts.
Experimenting with AI tools and staying curious are key to upskilling in AI.
Sound Bites
"You can't manage what you don't measure."
"We want to learn from what [interviewers] are doing."
"Set up an infrastructure that will allow you to understand something, to collect data and to understand something about the effectiveness of your interview practices."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:16 Shiran's Journey in the HR Tech Space
08:55 Mitigating Bias in AI Algorithms
13:43 The Importance of Feedback in the Hiring Process
21:39 The Role of Responsible AI in Decision-Making
28:14 The Future of AI in Hiring and DEI
38:01 Favorite AI Tools and Use Cases
42:34 Incorporating AI Use in Interviews
46:21 Advice for Upskilling in AI
Shiran Danoch: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shirandanoch
Informed Decisions: https://informedecisions.io | |||
02 Jan 2025 | Ep 47: Workforce Transformation via Responsible AI, Skills, and Total Talent Intelligence with Remy Glaisner | 00:51:19 | |
Bob Pulver catches up with Remy Glaisner, an expert in talent intelligence, market research, and HR strategies. They discuss Remy's diverse background in automation and HR, the importance of skills-based organizations, and the integration of soft skills into talent management. The conversation highlights the need for organizations to adapt to market changes and leverage total talent intelligence for better decision-making. Bob and Remy explore the transformative impact of AI agents on various organizational functions, particularly in HR. They discuss the evolution of AI, the importance of governance, and the role of data integrity in ensuring successful AI deployment. The conversation emphasizes the need for organizations to adapt to new technologies while maintaining a focus on responsible AI use and fostering a culture that embraces change.
Keywords
AI, HR, skills-based organization, talent intelligence, soft skills, data integration, business strategy, workforce planning, automation, employee engagement, AI agents, HR technology, AI governance, organizational culture, data integrity, responsible AI, automation, talent intelligence, strategic workforce planning, AI in hiring
Takeaways
Skills-based organizations focus on aligning skills with business needs.
Understanding both HR and business perspectives is crucial for success.
Soft skills play a significant role in team dynamics and effectiveness.
Total talent intelligence integrates various data sources for better insights.
Organizations must anticipate market shifts to remain competitive.
HR should proactively provide data-driven insights to the business.
AI can enhance the assessment of both hard and soft skills.
AI agents are evolving to execute complex tasks previously thought to require human intervention.
AI governance is essential to ensure responsible and ethical use of AI technologies.
Data integrity and analytics maturity are foundational for successful AI applications.
Organizations must take responsibility for how they deploy AI, ensuring it aligns with their culture and values.
AI can enhance human capabilities and support better decision-making in hiring and talent management.
The future of work will require adaptability and continuous learning from both individuals and organizations.
Strategic workforce planning can benefit from AI by integrating various business inputs and data sources.
Sound Bites
"How do you define skills-based organizations?"
"Skills are like money in the bank account."
"We need to anticipate market shifts."
"AI can limit friction in HR processes."
"AI governance is crucial for responsible use."
"Data integrity is key to AI success."
"We must be responsible in deploying AI."
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Background of Remy Glaisner
03:13 - Transitioning from Technical to HR Perspectives
05:57 - Understanding Skills-Based Organizations
08:59 - The Role of Skills in Business Strategy
12:02 - Navigating Skills Mapping and Organizational Needs
15:00 - The Importance of Soft Skills in Talent Management
18:10 - Integrating Total Talent Intelligence
21:05 - Challenges in Data Sharing and Collaboration
23:54 - The Future of HR in Intelligent Organizations
27:48 - The Evolution of AI Agents
30:32 - AI in HR: Reducing Friction and Enhancing Efficiency
34:36 - AI Governance: Ensuring Responsible Use
38:34 - The Role of AI in Organizational Culture
41:45 - Data Integrity: The Foundation of AI Success
46:42 - The Responsibility of AI Deployment
Remy Glaisner: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rglaisner
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
05 Sep 2024 | Ep 16: Navigating the Skills Landscape for the Evolution of Work with Gordon Ritchie | 00:59:59 | |
Bob Pulver and Gordon Ritchie, Principal Consultant and Skills Architect at Skill Collective, discuss the challenges and complexities of skills in the workplace. They explore topics such as skills assessments, skills ownership, skills taxonomy, and the role of AI in skills inference. They also touch on the importance of durable skills and the need for a shift in how skills are evaluated and matched in the hiring process. The conversation explores the challenges and considerations of skills-based hiring, the impact of automation on talent acquisition, and the importance of internal mobility and reskilling. It also delves into the use of assessments in evaluating human skills and the need for responsible AI practices. The conversation concludes with advice to explore and experiment with AI tools and to embrace continuous learning and adaptation.
Keywords
skills, assessments, ownership, taxonomy, AI, durable skills, hiring process, skills-based hiring, automation, talent acquisition, internal mobility, reskilling, assessments, responsible AI, research, experimentation, continuous learning
Takeaways
Skills assessments can help individuals and organizations identify aptitudes and capabilities.
Ownership of skills is a challenge, as different HR verticals and solution providers vie to be the system of record for skills.
Skills taxonomy and global skill standards are difficult to create and maintain, and may not be the most effective approach.
Skills inference using AI can help identify skills based on descriptions and tasks, but it is important to consider the limitations and biases of AI.
Durable skills, including critical thinking and problem-solving, are essential in a rapidly changing work environment.
Skills-based hiring often falls short, with skills-based sourcing being more common. Inconsistencies in skills evaluation and matching persist in the hiring process. Skills-based hiring may not always lead to better outcomes and behavior.
Hiring managers should focus on the tasks that need to be done, rather than just the skills required.
Automation should be approached with consideration for the impact on culture, engagement, and retention.
Internal mobility and reskilling can provide opportunities for employees and help retain valuable talent.
Assessments in the AI space vary in reliability and validity, and caution should be exercised in their use.
Continuous learning and experimentation with AI tools can help individuals elevate their AIQ.
Sound Bites
"Skills assessments can help individuals and organizations identify aptitudes and capabilities."
"Skills taxonomy and global skill standards are difficult to create and maintain, and may not be the most effective approach."
"Skills inference using AI can help identify skills based on descriptions and tasks, but it is important to consider the limitations and biases of AI."
"And so that looks like a great vanity metric to measure the success of skills-based hiring on, but it hasn't actually changed the outcome and behavior."
"What is it that needs doing? Because that's the business of the business. And that's what a job architecture needs to mirror or mimic."
"You don't automate jobs, you automate tasks."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
09:48 Challenges of Skills Taxonomy and Standards
19:12 Skills Inference with AI
25:19 The Importance of Durable Skills
33:27 Skills-Based Hiring Challenges
35:37 The Limitations of Skills-Based Hiring
39:23 Considering the Impact of Automation on Talent Acquisition
45:22 The Value of Internal Mobility and Reskilling
58:53 The Challenges of Assessments in the AI Space
01:06:07 Embracing Continuous Learning and Experimentation with AI
Gordon Ritchie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gordon-m-ritchie
Skill Collective: https://skillcollective.co.uk
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
12 Nov 2024 | Ep 35: A Whirlwind 360-Degree Tour of AI in HR with Lydia Wu | 00:49:38 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Lydia Wu, an expert in all things HR tech and future of work. They discuss Lydia's journey in the HR tech industry, her initiative 'Oops! Did I Think That Out Loud?', and the importance of transparency and accountability in HR technology. Bob and Lydia talk about the challenges of fast-paced innovation in HR tech and the need for a holistic understanding of the ecosystem to ensure responsible AI practices. The conversation gets into the complexities of AI in the HR tech landscape, discussing the challenges of separating fact from fiction, and the role of people analytics in talent transformation. They emphasize the need for better questions from buyers, the significance of storytelling with data, and the skills gap in HR. Bob and Lydia hit on compliance and risk management in the age of AI, the evolving landscape of HR leadership, the impact of AI tools like Bersin’s Galileo on HR market research, the importance of curiosity and play in the workplace, and the balance between innovation and trust in AI applications.
Keywords
HR Tech, AI, transparency, innovation, accountability, startup, ecosystem, DEI, AI, Responsible AI, People Analytics, Data Storytelling, Skills Gap, Workforce Impact, Compliance, Risk Management, AI Tools, fractional leadership, HR research, Galileo, AI tools, workplace innovation, curiosity, play, instant gratification, market research, technology in HR
Takeaways
Lydia emphasizes the importance of transparency in HR discussions.
Fast-paced innovation can lead to significant impacts on end users.
HR tech designers need to consider the full ecosystem when launching solutions.
Accountability is crucial in the HR tech industry.
Lydia advocates for positive feedback rather than criticism in HR tech.
Understanding deeper layers of innovation is essential for success.
Engagement and people-centric approaches are vital in HR tech.
Separating fact from fiction in AI is crucial.
Buyers need to ask better questions about AI solutions.
Responsible AI requires more than just compliance.
People analytics is often seen as a luxury.
Storytelling with data is essential for HR success.
The skills gap in HR is widening with AI advancements.
HR must understand the implications of AI on workforce.
Compliance and risk management are critical in AI adoption.
New AI tools can bridge gaps in HR practices.
HR must evolve to support business needs effectively.
Attention spans are decreasing, necessitating quicker information access.
Balancing theory and practice is crucial in HR research.
AI tools should acknowledge their limitations to maintain trust.
Curiosity and play are essential for innovation in the workplace.
AI can help expand ideas but may struggle with summarization.
The integration of AI in HR requires responsible innovation.
Understanding AI's capabilities can lead to new ideas and applications.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to HR Tech and Lydia Wu's Journey
03:04 The Real Talk in HR Tech: Transparency and Accountability
05:55 The Impact of Fast-Paced Innovation in HR Tech
08:00 Navigating the Landscape of AI in HR Tech
13:52 The Role of People Analytics
20:05 The Skills Gap in HR
26:05 Compliance and Risk in the Age of AI
30:49 The Rise of Fractional Leadership
38:32 Galileo: Transforming HR Research
44:12 AI in the Workplace: Balancing Innovation and Trust
50:37 Curiosity and Play: The Future of Work
Lydia Wu: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lydiaywu
Oops! Did I Think That Out Loud: https://beacons.ai/oopsdidithinkthatoutloud
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
28 Nov 2024 | Ep 40: Generative AI in the Context of Technological Evolution and Culture Change with John Hansen | 00:55:28 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with John Hansen, Chairman and CEO of Atana, about his extensive background in technology, the importance of diversity in the tech industry, and the transformative potential of AI. John shares his journey through various tech companies (this is his 8th, in fact), his passion for creating inclusive workplaces, and his insights on the latest advancements in generative AI. Bob and John discuss the user experience with AI, the adoption challenges it faces, and the enduring need for human touch in technology. They discuss the overarching challenges and opportunities presented by modern technology, particularly in the context of learning and development. John shares stories and insights from his experiences in Africa, highlighting how leapfrogging technology can lead to significant advancements. John talks about the unique characteristics of Gen Z as digital natives and the importance of adapting educational methods to better serve future generations. The conversation emphasizes the need to maximize human potential through technology while addressing the challenges of integrating new tools responsibly. It’s an enlightening discussion exploring the intersection of technology, culture, and education.
Keywords
AI, technology, diversity, generative AI, workplace transformation, human-AI interaction, John Hansen, Atana, leadership, innovation, technology, AI, learning, development, Gen Z, digital natives, leapfrogging, education, infrastructure, cultural change
Takeaways
John Hansen has founded eight companies and has a strong background in technology.
Diversity in decision-making bodies leads to better outcomes.
Generative AI represents a significant shift in user interaction with technology.
AI should support human endeavors rather than replace them.
The limitations of AI include issues with authenticity and hallucinations.
Human touch and physical interaction remain important despite technological advancements.
AI can enhance content creation but still requires human input.
The future of technology will involve a blend of AI and human creativity.
Sticky notes may persist as a preferred method of note-taking for many.
Legacy infrastructure often hinders technological advancement.
Cultural traditions can coexist with modern technology.
Leapfrogging technology can lead to unexpected breakthroughs.
AI's evolution presents both opportunities and challenges.
Different learning modalities serve different educational needs.
In-classroom instruction should focus on engagement, not just knowledge transfer.
Gen Z's digital skills are unmatched, but they face social challenges.
Technology can help eliminate intellectual waste in learning.
Companies must adapt to the strengths of new generations.
Responsible use of technology is crucial for future success.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to John Hansen and Atana
06:05 The Importance of Diversity in Tech
12:01 User Interaction with AI
18:00 Challenges and Limitations of AI
26:23 Legacy Infrastructure vs. Modern Technology
32:10 The Evolution of AI: Breakthroughs and Challenges
45:04 Gen Z: The Digital Natives and Their Impact
51:30 Maximizing Human Potential with Technology
John Hansen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjhansen
Atana: https://www.atana.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
24 Sep 2024 | Ep 21: Augmented Intelligence for Market Research with Victoria Sakal and Ainesh Ravi | 00:56:06 | |
Bob Pulver chats with Ainesh Ravi and Victoria Sakal from Wonder, a startup that combines human expertise with AI to provide market research solutions. They discuss the evolution of Wonder, the challenges and benefits of incorporating AI into their workflow, and the importance of human expertise in the research process. They also touch on the potential risks and advantages of using AI tools and the need for a strong moat in the market. The speakers discuss the importance of adaptability, investing in people, and leveraging AI tools to enhance productivity. They also touch on the challenges of bias in AI output and the need for cognitive diversity in decision-making. The conversation concludes with discussions on the future of research, the role of strategic insights, and advice on how individuals can incorporate AI tools into their daily lives.
Keywords
market research, AI, human expertise, workflow, moat, strategic insights, AI, future of work, adaptability, investing in people, AI tools, productivity, bias, cognitive diversity, AI literacy
Takeaways
Wonder combines human expertise with AI to provide market research solutions.
The incorporation of AI into the research process requires a behavioral change in how the company thinks about and structures its teams.
Prompt engineering and understanding the limitations of AI models are crucial for delivering high-quality research.
Wonder focuses on serving both large companies and smaller clients, offering a simpler and more cost-effective alternative to traditional research firms.
The combination of strategic value, IP, and process expertise creates a strong moat for Wonder in the market.
The future of research lies in the integration of AI tools and human expertise, allowing for higher-quality insights and more strategic decision-making.
Adaptability is key in the future of work, and individuals should invest in developing their skills and staying relevant.
AI tools can enhance productivity and efficiency in various tasks, but it's important to choose the right tools and understand their limitations.
Bias in AI output is a concern, and organizations should strive for cognitive diversity in decision-making to mitigate potential biases.
A culture of curiosity and a mindset of continuous learning are essential for navigating the evolving landscape of AI and the future of work.
Sound Bites
"The incorporation of AI into the research process requires a behavioral change in how the company thinks about and structures its teams."
"Prompt engineering and understanding the limitations of AI models are crucial for delivering high-quality research."
"There's a bunch of different ways to think about it as your prompts might be recipes and you've got to, not everyone who uses the same ingredients, the output's not going to be the same."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background of Wonder
08:07 The Behavioral Change in Incorporating AI into Research
13:10 The Importance of Prompt Engineering and Understanding AI Limitations
23:29 Serving Both Large Companies and Smaller Clients
26:00 Building a Strong Moat with Strategic Value, IP, and Process Expertise
28:40 Adaptability and Investing in People in the Future of Work
35:05 Enhancing Productivity with AI Tools
46:15 Addressing Bias and Promoting Cognitive Diversity
54:53 Elevating AI Literacy: Starting Small and Embracing Curiosity
Ainesh Ravi: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aineshravi/
Victoria Sakal: https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoriasakal/
Wonder: askwonder.com
Wonder workshop on how to apply AI to your workflows (recording & resources): https://askwonder.com/insights-hub/tap-genai-to-accelerate-your-work
Wonder’s thought leadership, research and POVs (subscribe for more): https://askwonder.com/insights-hub | |||
24 Jul 2024 | Ep 2: Unlocking Potential Across Talent Pools with Edie Goldberg | 00:55:47 | |
Edie Goldberg, a future of work expert and author, discusses the concept of talent marketplaces and the importance of skills-based hiring. She explains how talent marketplaces can create equal opportunities for employees based on their skills, rather than their connections. Goldberg emphasizes the need for companies to implement systems and processes that facilitate diversity, equity, and inclusion. She also highlights the value of skills assessments and the untapped potential in talent pools. Goldberg advocates for a shift away from traditional job descriptions and towards a focus on skills and adaptability. In this conversation, Edie Goldberg and Bob Pulver discuss the importance of expanding the talent pool and breaking down traditional work structures to enhance the employee experience. They explore the challenges of implementing an internal talent marketplace and the ownership of talent acquisition and contingent labor. They also discuss the need for organizations to develop a holistic talent ecosystem strategy and the role of AI in elevating AIQ (AI Quotient). They emphasize the importance of being curious, experimenting with AI tools, and using AI to improve decision-making and remove administrative tasks.
In this episode, we look at talent marketplaces, skills-based hiring, equal opportunities, diversity, equity, inclusion, skills assessments, talent pools, adaptability, talent acquisition, contingent labor, AIQ, AI tools, and decision-making.
Key Takeaways
Talent marketplaces create equal opportunities for employees based on their skills, rather than their connections.
Companies need to implement systems and processes that facilitate diversity, equity, and inclusion.
Skills assessments and talent assessments should carry significant weight in hiring and talent management.
There is untapped potential in talent pools, and skills-based hiring can help access a broader and more diverse pool of talent.
Traditional job descriptions should be replaced with a focus on skills and adaptability.
To address talent shortages, companies need to cast a wider net and gain access to a broader pool of talent.
Breaking down traditional work structures and expanding the talent pool can enhance the employee experience and improve culture.
Ownership of the internal talent marketplace is a challenge, with talent acquisition, talent management, and other departments involved.
Companies should develop a holistic talent ecosystem strategy and work together to manage the entire talent ecosystem.
Elevating AIQ involves being curious, experimenting with AI tools, and using AI to improve decision-making and remove administrative tasks.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Edie Goldberg's Background
02:43 The Inspiration for 'Inside Gig' and the Concept of Talent Marketplaces
09:08 The Challenges of Implementing Talent Marketplaces
12:24 Skills-First Hiring and the Importance of Assessments
21:07 Talent Marketplaces as Equal Opportunity Platforms
23:32 Skills-Based Hiring and Accessing a Broader Talent Pool
25:23 Shifting Focus from Job Descriptions to Skills and Adaptability
30:00 Developing a Holistic Talent Ecosystem Strategy
41:00 Being Curious and Experimenting with AI Tools
E.L. Goldberg & Associates: https://www.elgoldberg.com/
The Inside Gig: https://www.amazon.com/Inside-Gig-Boundaries-Unleashes-Organizational/dp/1928055605 | |||
24 Jan 2025 | Ep 51: Transforming HR with Skills-Based Approaches to Talent Agility with Jeff Wellstead | 00:48:02 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Jeff Wellstead, Founder and CEO of Big Bear Partners, an HR consultancy based in the UK. Jeff has had an extensive career in HR, now with a particular focus on growth-stage tech startups. He shares his journey of reinventing HR practices, the challenges of AI adoption in mid-sized companies, and the importance of building skills-based organizations. Bob and Jeff talk about the evolving role of HR in the context of performance assessment, data-driven decision-making, and the integration of AI technologies. Bob and Jeff also explore how organizations can leverage skills taxonomies and AI agents to enhance workforce planning, scenario planning, and overall talent management. The discussion emphasizes the importance of adapting to technological advancements while maintaining a focus on human interaction and support within HR functions.
Keywords
AI, HR, skills-based organizations, talent management, technology adoption, Jeff Wellstead, human resources, skills taxonomy, mid-sized companies, startup culture, HR, AI, workforce planning, performance assessment, skills taxonomy, talent intelligence, scenario planning, data-driven decision making, digital footprint, organizational change
Takeaways
Jeff Wellstead has over 35 years of experience in HR, primarily in tech startups.
He believes traditional HR practices need to be reinvented for modern workplaces.
AI adoption in HR is still low, especially among mid-sized companies.
Skills-based organizations focus on competencies rather than traditional job titles.
AI can help create a skills taxonomy to better assess employee capabilities.
AI is transforming how organizations manage talent and skills development.
The integration of AI can lead to personalized learning and development paths.
Companies need to be agile in adapting to new technologies and practices.
Proper data is essential for making informed decisions about employee careers.
Data-driven decision-making can significantly enhance HR processes.
AI can transform workforce planning and talent management.
Scenario planning is essential for anticipating workforce gaps.
AI agents can streamline HR functions and improve efficiency.
HR professionals must adapt to the changing landscape of AI.
The future of HR will involve a blend of technology and human interaction.
HR must focus on coaching and development as AI takes over routine tasks.
Sound Bites
"I'm not a big fan of traditional legacy HR."
"I got to reinvent HR from scratch."
"We need to rethink traditional roles and job titles."
"AI can help create an intelligence skills taxonomy."
"We need the right people in the right seats."
"AI is actually much easier than it's ever been."
"Don't be complacent in what you're doing."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Jeff Wellstead's Journey
02:56 Reinventing HR in Tech Startups
05:53 The Challenges of AI Adoption in HR
09:02 Building Skills-Based Organizations
11:58 The Importance of Skills Taxonomy
15:10 Leveraging AI for Talent Management
18:07 Navigating Skills Gaps and Future Roles
26:29 Performance Assessment and Digital Footprints
27:33 Data-Driven Decision Making in HR
29:53 The Role of AI in Workforce Planning
32:35 Scenario Planning and Skills Taxonomy
35:11 AI Agents and Talent Intelligence
38:25 AI's Impact on HR Roles and Responsibilities
43:41 The Future of HR with AI
Jeff Wellstead: http://uk.linkedin.com/in/jrwellstead/
Big Bear Partners: http://www.bigbearpartners.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com
Thanks to Warden AI (https://warden-ai.com) for their sponsorship and support of the show! Warden is an AI assurance platform for HR technology to demonstrate AI-powered solutions are fair, compliant and trustworthy. | |||
03 Dec 2024 | Ep 41: Using Data and Responsible AI to Reimagine Hiring Success with Barb Hyman | 00:52:13 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Barb Hyman, CEO and founder of Sapia.ai, about the transformative role of AI in recruitment and HR. Barb shares her journey from law to HR and the inception of Sapia.ai, emphasizing the need for data-driven hiring practices that challenge biases and improve candidate experiences. The conversation explores the complexities of global regulations surrounding AI, the importance of ethical AI practices, and the future of HR technology, highlighting the shift towards self-service solutions and the critical role of retention metrics in evaluating hiring success. Barb and Bob discuss the evolving role of HR in talent acquisition, emphasizing the importance of data-driven decision-making and the impact of AI on recruitment processes. Barb explains how benchmarking can enhance HR performance and accountability, and she shares her perspective on the future of data ownership in HR, highlighting the need for individuals to have control over their data. They also talk about the potential for AI to transform learning and development, and why organizations must generate excitement about AI opportunities to drive widespread adoption.
Keywords
Sapia.ai, Barb Hyman, AI in hiring, recruitment technology, bias in hiring, ethical AI, HR technology, global regulations, data-driven hiring, employee retention, HR, talent acquisition, data-driven decision making, AI in recruitment, candidate experience, hiring process, data ownership
Takeaways
Barb Hyman's diverse background informs her approach to HR and AI.
Data and science are crucial in reimagining hiring processes.
The hiring process should minimize information asymmetry.
Bias in hiring can be challenged by using chat-based interviews.
Global regulations on AI vary significantly, impacting recruitment.
Trust and transparency are essential for ethical AI practices.
Retention metrics should be prioritized over engagement metrics.
The future of HR technology lies in API-driven solutions.
Self-service tools can enhance employee development and feedback.
HR leaders must adapt to a rapidly changing landscape.
HR must enable hiring managers to make informed decisions.
Data-driven insights can transform L&D programs.
HR is overwhelmed with data that lacks utility.
Benchmarking HR performance creates accountability.
AI is changing the recruitment landscape significantly.
The candidate experience should be dignified and valued.
Data ownership is shifting towards employees.
AI can enhance the efficiency of hiring processes.
Organizations need to rethink their recruitment strategies.
Excitement about AI can drive its adoption in HR.
Sound Bites
"Trust is one of our values."
"The power of AI is that you get better."
"Don't buy any more platforms."
"Retention is the North Star metric for HR."
"The whole world of HR is changing."
"HR are the ultimate decision makers."
"HR is drowning in data, but none is useful."
"Data ownership gives people agency."
"How do we get people excited about AI?"
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Barb Hyman and Sapia.ai
02:53 The Importance of Data in Hiring
05:47 Challenging Bias in Recruitment
08:50 Navigating Global Regulations in AI Hiring
11:57 Building Trust and Ethical AI Practices
14:58 The Future of HR Technology and AI
17:48 Understanding Skills and Retention Metrics
27:42 The Evolving Role of HR in Talent Acquisition
30:49 Data-Driven Decision Making in HR
32:50 Benchmarking HR Performance for Accountability
34:28 The Impact of AI on Recruitment Processes
38:01 Enhancing the Candidate Experience
42:45 Reimagining the Hiring Process
48:27 The Future of Data Ownership in HR
Barb Hyman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbarahyman
Sapia.ai: https://sapia.ai
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
22 Aug 2024 | Ep 12: Augmenting Human Capabilities Responsibly with Hernan Chiosso | 00:49:15 | |
Bob Pulver speaks with Hernan Chiosso, Founder of ProductizeHR and Director of Technology for the National Human Resources Association. They discuss the potential of AI in HR, the importance of human skills, and the need to rethink work and job roles. They also touch on the impact of AI on internships and the impact to the arts and other creative pursuits. Overall, the conversation highlights the need for a human-centric approach to AI and the importance of considering outcomes rather than just outputs. The conversation explores the importance of maintaining the human element in art and education when incorporating AI. It emphasizes the need for a healthy balance between AI and traditional methods, as well as the responsibility to use AI ethically and responsibly. Bob and Hernan also touch on the concept of trust in AI and the importance of critical thinking and questioning. Various tools and approaches to AI are discussed, highlighting the need for individuals to adapt and find ways to incorporate AI into their work and personal lives.
Keywords
AI, HR, human skills, work, job roles, internships, art, AI in art, AI in education, balance between AI and traditional methods, responsible AI use, trust in AI, critical thinking, AI tools and approaches
Takeaways
AI has the potential to augment HR and enable HR professionals to make better quality decisions.
It is important to consider the impact of AI on job roles and the need to invest in the development of human workers.
The focus should be on outcomes rather than just outputs when considering the use of AI.
AI can eliminate the need for certain tools and processes, but it is important to assess the value and meaning of work in the context of AI.
AI offers opportunities for employee development and the reevaluation of job roles and their value in society. Maintaining the human element in art and education is crucial for personal growth and creativity.
A healthy balance between AI and traditional methods is necessary to ensure the best outcomes.
Using AI in education should focus on coaching and tutoring, rather than simply providing answers.
Responsible AI use involves understanding the social, personal, and environmental trade-offs.
Increasing AIQ requires technical knowledge, understanding of AI's impact, and a responsible mindset.
AI tools can augment human capabilities and improve productivity, but should not replace critical thinking and questioning.
Sound Bites
"AI can automate some things, but it is capable of much more."
"AI can render many tools and processes meaningless and pointless."
"AI creates an opportunity to revisit what makes sense and what doesn't in work and job roles."
"You're missing the outcome that is that transformational process of art."
"It should be part of learning. It should be in a tutoring kind of capacity."
"How you use AI makes all the difference."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
03:42 The Potential of AI in HR
11:46 The Impact of AI on Work and Job Roles
29:49 The Human-Centric Approach to AI
32:55 Maintaining the Human Element in Art and Education
35:02 Finding a Healthy Balance Between AI and Traditional Methods
36:57 Responsible AI Use in Education
39:45 Understanding the Social, Personal, and Environmental Trade-Offs of AI
44:06 Increasing AIQ: Technical Knowledge, Impact Awareness, and Responsible Mindset
53:41 Augmenting Human Capabilities with AI Tools
Hernan Chiosso: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hernanchiosso/
Productize HR: https://productizehr.substack.com
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
15 Aug 2024 | Ep 10: Using AI for Coaching, Upskilling, and Reskilling with Rachel Cossar | 00:41:56 | |
Rachel Cossar, CEO and co-founder of Virtual Sapiens, discusses the power of AI in coaching and communication effectiveness. She shares her background as a professional ballet dancer and rhythmic gymnast, and how she transitioned into coaching people in presence and body language. During the pandemic, she saw an opportunity to introduce AI into coaching to make it more accessible and scalable. Bob and Rachel discuss the potential of AI in talent assessment and hiring, as well as its role in education. Rachel emphasizes the importance of using AI to provide equitable access to coaching and feedback. The conversation explores the concept of reskilling and upskilling in the context of AI and technology. They discuss how Virtual Sapiens can be used to help individuals transition to new roles and acquire new skills. The importance of soft skills in the age of AI is highlighted, as well as the role of AI in improving performance in sports and athletics. The conversation also touches on the challenges of using AI in artistic fields and the need for human feedback and intervention. The episode concludes with a discussion on the evolving landscape of AI tools and the importance of having a learning mindset to gain AI literacy.
Keywords
AI coaching, communication effectiveness, talent assessment, hiring, education, reskilling, upskilling, soft skills, AI in sports, learning mindset, AI literacy
Takeaways
AI can be used to provide coaching and feedback in areas such as presence and communication effectiveness.
AI has the potential to make talent assessment and hiring more objective and equitable.
AI-powered tools can democratize access to coaching and feedback, particularly in education.
Adapting to AI technology and leveraging it to upskill oneself is crucial for success in the changing workforce. Identifying transferable skills and reskilling to new roles can be a valuable strategy in the age of AI and technology.
Soft skills are becoming increasingly important in a world dominated by AI and automation.
AI can be used to improve performance in sports and athletics, but its application in artistic fields is more challenging.
Human feedback and intervention are essential in ensuring that AI tools enhance rather than replace human capabilities.
Keeping up requires continuous learning and experimentation.
Sound Bites
"I started coaching people actually in presence and body language and non-verbal [communication] because that was an area that I was such a master in and that I found people often neglected in other professional settings."
"When AI comes into the picture, you can at least know that every candidate is getting assessed by the same rubric that the AI has been trained for."
"AI often lacks the ability to understand context, right, and how behaviors change based on specific contexts that it might not be trained or equipped to really understand."
"Let me make sure I'm comfortable and confident talking to a potential new manager, a new leader that I have the capability to re-skill."
"The visual representation of sports and athletics in terms of improvement is a big area where I think AI could be very helpful."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:03 The Power of Transferable Skills
04:39 Assessing Talent and Hiring with AI
06:38 The Promise and Challenges of AI in Hiring
08:27 Democratizing Access to Coaching and Feedback
12:25 AI in Education
19:45 The Role of Video in AI Coaching
22:21 Leadership Dashboard and Continuous Improvement
24:12 Embracing Discomfort and Growth
26:40 Reskilling and Upskilling
30:19 AI in Sports and Athletics
33:54 Human Feedback and Intervention
36:48 Evolving Landscape of AI Tools
Rachel Cossar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-cossar
Virtual Sapiens: http://www.virtualsapiens.co/
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
17 Sep 2024 | Ep 19: Bridging the Knowing-Doing-Leading Gap for AI-Driven Transformation with Charlene Li | 00:49:02 | |
Bob Pulver catches up with advisor, executive coach, entrepreneur, and NY Times best selling author Charlene Li about AI-driven transformation and the importance of remaining human-centric. Charlene has written numerous books on this subject (her seventh book is coming soon!) and is continuously educating leaders and organizations worldwide on how to get it right. They spoke about AI-driven transformation and how it differs from prior transformation initiatives. Charlene shared invaluable insights on strategic alignment and leadership buy-in to shrink the ‘knowing-doing-leading’ gap. Importantly, Charlene and Bob dig into the crucial role of Responsible AI in ensuring positive outcomes for all stakeholders. Charlene also shares examples of organizations that have successfully embraced AI and offers practical advice for gaining AI knowledge and skills. How are you bridging the knowing-doing-leading gap? How will AI help you ask better questions, and think differently? Charlene's extensive expertise in digital transformation and human-centric approaches to technology make this episode a must-listen for anyone interested in the future of work and how AI can augment and empower us (humans, that is).
Keywords
AI-driven transformation, human-centric, digital transformation, strategic alignment, leadership buy-in, responsible AI, data literacy, data governance
Takeaways
AI-driven transformation is an opportunity to change the way organizations operate and upend the status quo.
Strategic alignment and leadership buy-in are crucial for successful AI implementation.
Responsible AI requires a focus on data literacy, data governance, and ethical use of AI.
Customization and personalization of AI tools can enhance their effectiveness and impact.
Building AI tools in-house can make organizations more knowledgeable buyers and ensure solutions that solve real problems.
Sound Bites
"AI upends the way we work and changes the way we relate to each other."
"AI transformation requires strategic alignment and thinking big."
"Executives need AI literacy and must transform themselves before leading AI implementation."
"Until you can see the power of AI directly benefiting you, you can't begin to think about how to lead an organization in using AI."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Background
02:21 Comparing AI-driven Transformation to Previous Transformations
04:39 Strategic Alignment and Leadership Buy-in
06:16 Becoming AI Literate as a Leader
09:14 Responsible AI: Data Literacy and Governance
13:18 Responsible AI: Speeding Things Up with Clear Guidelines
16:11 Example of Successful AI Implementation: AARP
18:05 Responsible AI: Setting Up AI Ethics Committees
20:24 Responsible AI: Responsible Use of Data and Access
22:25 Building AI Tools In-house: Customization and Personalization
26:04 Building AI Tools In-house: Minimal Viable Team
29:32 Responsible AI: Imagination and Curiosity
32:28 Responsible AI: Responsible Use of All AI Technologies
40:33 Customization and Personalization of AI Tools
46:25 Building AI Tools In-house: Becoming Knowledgeable Buyers
Charlene Li: https://charleneli.com/
Charlene’s books: https://charleneli.com/books/ | |||
30 Jul 2024 | Ep 5: Empowering Leadership for the Future of Work with Wagner Denuzzo | 00:52:13 | |
Bob Pulver and Wagner Denuzzo discuss the importance of the right skills and mindsets to drive the future of work. They reflect on their experience working with millennials and the impact of programs that empower young leaders. They also explore the transition to the future of work and the role of AI in organizations. They discuss the learning curve of generative AI and the importance of upskilling and reskilling. They emphasize the need for organizations to enable individuals to explore and take ownership of their careers. They also highlight the value of attributes and durable skills in the age of AI. The conversation explores the concept of AIQ (Artificial Intelligence Quotient) and its impact on leadership and organizational success.
Key themes discussed, which are covered in much more depth in Wagner's new book, include cognitive mastery, adaptive resilience, reciprocity alignment, digital fluency, and sense-making (CARDS). The conversation also touches on the need for HR to embrace short-term talent strategies and become a business capability partner. The importance of responsible AI usage, collective intelligence, and the role of curiosity and open-source consciousness in navigating the AI landscape are also highlighted.
future of work, millennials, leadership, transformation, generative AI, upskilling, reskilling, attributes, durable skills, cognitive mastery, adaptive resilience, reciprocity alignment, digital fluency, sense-making, short-term talent strategies, HR, responsible AI usage, collective intelligence, curiosity, and open-source consciousness.
Key Takeaways
Programs that empower current and future leaders and change agents can have a significant impact on the future of work.
The transition to the future of work requires adaptability and the ability to navigate through transitions.
Upskilling and reskilling in AI is a matter of courage, curiosity, and exploration.
Efficiency should not overshadow effectiveness and the importance of collective value creation.
Assessing talent should go beyond skills and focus on attributes and durable skills.
AI can automate tasks, but human capabilities such as cognitive mastery and emotional intelligence are essential for success.
Adaptive resilience requires maturity and the ability to be flexible and open to change.
Reciprocity alignment involves understanding the needs of others and aligning behaviors accordingly.
Digital fluency is crucial for success in the modern world.
Sense-making involves understanding the context and patterns in an organization.
HR needs to embrace short-term talent strategies and become a business capability partner.
Responsible AI usage requires personal values and fostering collective consciousness.
Collective intelligence is resurfacing as an important topic in the age of AI.
Curiosity, courage and conviction are important in navigating the AI landscape.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Empowering Young Leaders
04:48 Transition to the Future of Work
08:11 Upskilling and Reskilling in AI
11:22 Balancing Efficiency and Effectiveness
27:18 The Role of Human Capabilities
29:32 Cognitive Mastery
31:22 Digital Fluency
33:21 Embracing Short-Term Talent Strategies
37:32 Responsible AI Usage
43:46 Collective Intelligence
Wagner Denuzzo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wagnerdenuzzo/
"Leading to Succeed: Essential Skills for the New Workplace": https://a.co/d/2xi1Wnq
For advisory work and marketing inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com | |||
24 Oct 2024 | Ep 30: AI Readiness Takes Effective Leadership and a Culture of Responsible Innovation with Andrew Whyatt-Sames | 00:51:59 | |
In this episode of Elevate Your AIQ, host Bob Pulver speaks with Andrew Whyatt-Sames, Co-founder of Uptake AI, a boutique consultancy focused on AI literacy in organizations. Andrew has had a very interesting and certainly non-linear career path, from broadcaster to comedian to leadership development executive. Bob and Andrew discuss the transformative impact of generative AI on organizations, emphasizing the importance of leadership, culture, and compassion in successfully integrating AI into the workplace. Andrew shares insights on the necessity of AI literacy, responsible AI practices, and the five C's of effective AI leadership: communication, culture, capability, compassion, and collaboration. The conversation highlights the need for organizations to prepare for the future of work where AI and human collaboration will be essential.
Keywords
AI, organizational psychology, leadership, generative AI, responsible AI, culture change, AI literacy, compassion, technology adoption, workplace transformation
Takeaways
AI is revolutionizing productivity in organizations.
Leadership must embrace AI to drive adoption.
Compassion is crucial in managing AI transformation.
Organizations need to foster a culture of innovation.
AI literacy is essential for all employees.
Responsible AI practices must be prioritized.
The five C's of AI leadership are vital for success.
Understanding AI tools enhances ethical use.
Collaboration between HR and IT is necessary for AI integration.
Organizations should prepare for the future of work with AI.
Sound Bites
"There's a massive productivity increase here."
"If you're a leader and you go ‘get using AI!’, that's really lacking in compassion."
“There's a massive job to do…to get their data ducks in a row before they can even start.”
"We need to maintain empathy."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Andrew Wyatt-Sames and His Background
03:01 The Role of AI in Organizational Development
05:57 Leadership and AI Adoption
08:57 Cultural Readiness for AI Integration
11:55 The Importance of Compassion in AI Transformation
15:03 Navigating Responsible AI Practices
18:13 The Five C's of AI Leadership
20:53 The Future of AI and Human Collaboration
24:13 Practical Tips for AI Utilization
27:07 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Andrew Whyatt-Sames: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewwhyattsames
UptakeAI: http://uptakeai.co.uk/
For advisory work and podcast sponsorship inquiries:
Bob Pulver: https://linkedin.com/in/bobpulver
Elevate Your AIQ: https://elevateyouraiq.com |
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