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05 May 2020DtSR Episode 393 - Smartish Cities00:42:53

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Guess who's back, back again ... James is back, so listen in!

So James is officially back after a bit of a hiatus from the podcast, and on this episode him and Rafal sit down over a fun interview with Matt Lewis Research Director for the UK with NCC Group. Matt is the primary author on a report on "Smart Cities", and it's definitely something you should read.

We talk about the report, discuss the true nature of a smart city and what it means to live in one. Pay particular attention to how difficult it was not to jump right into Die Hard 4 references... although we eventually broke down and did it anyway.

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Matt Lewis is Research Director for the UK with NCC Group (https://www.nccgroup.trust/us/) – a security consultancy that has over 35 global offices, 2,000 employees and 15,000 clients. He’s worked in Cyber Security for over 18 years since his Computer Science academic studies, which focused on formal methods for system specification and design. Since then Matt has worked in various roles across Defence, Intelligence, Commercial and Big 4. He specializes in security consultancy, scenario-based penetration testing, vulnerability research and development of security testing tools and methodologies. His consultancy, testing and research experience spans multiple technologies across all sectors and many FTSE 100 and Forbes 2000 companies. He has vast experience in facilitating security assurance within the Government sector. Matt is a public speaker with global recognition of his knowledge and expertise in biometric security. He regularly presents at international conferences and seminars on all manner of cybersecurity-related topics.

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31 Aug 2015DtSR Episode 158 - Managing Security with Outsourced IT00:45:17

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  • We discuss what life is like as the CISO when you have all the responsibility for, but no administrative access (or hands on keyboard)
  • Brandon tells his story about how his IT organization went from in-house, to out-house, and how they got where they are
  • Brandon tells us the process and strategy he uses to get a handle on his security
  • We discuss why visibility is one of the most important things to outsourced IT (and security)
  • Brandon tells a story of an incident where things went very sideways
  • We discuss the balance between outsourcer scalability and customer deviations
  • Brandon tells us why sometimes it takes 3 months to scan your environment for a vulnerability ( your head will explode )
  • …and so much more

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  • Brandon Dunlap ( @bsdunlap ) - Brandon is the global Chief Information Security Officer for a an employee-owned, global leader in building critical infrastructure in energy, water, telecommunications and government services currently operating in more than 100 countries through consulting, engineering, construction, operations and program management.

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07 Jun 2022DtSR Episode 504 - DNS Turns 4000:36:50

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In this RSA conference-themed episode, I bring on Jonathan Barnett from OpenText Security Solutions to discuss DNS turning 40 years old. Yeah, it was originally invented in 1983 y'all. As DNS turns 40, some of the lingering problems are getting worse, some of the new solutions open up other problems, and we're all about solutions here so we tackle some of the things Jonathan is doing to address the issues.

Interesting episode to ponder, and reflect on, as DNS turns 40 years old next year and we try and figure out "now what?"

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18 Dec 2019DtSR Episode 375 - Malcolm in the Middle (of a Career)00:39:53

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This week, DtSR is joined by Malcolm Harkins - former CISO of Intel and industry insider extraordinaire. Malcolm shares insights from his long and distinguished career so pull up a virtual chair, grab your notebook, and pull over because this is one that's a great listen.

Highlights from this week's episode include...

  • Rafal asks Malcolm why he doesn't job-hop like most CISOs
  • Malcolm and Raf discuss the "feature economy"
  • Raf asks Malcolm to predict the future

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17 Feb 2014DtR Episode 80 - Lies, Damned Lies, and #InfoSec Statistics [Guests: Jay Jacobs, Bob Rudis]00:58:32

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  • Jay and Bob talk about their new book
  • A discussion on using data as 'supporting evidence' rather than gut feelings
  • Do we have actuarial quality data to answer key security questions?
  • A discussion on "asking the right question", and why it's THE single most important thing to do
  • Bob attempts to ask security professionals to use data we already have, to be data-driven
  • Jay tells us why he wouldn't consider "SQL Injection" a "HIGH" risk ranking - and why data challenges what you THINK you know
  • Quick shout out to Allison Miller on finding the little needles in the big, big haystack
  • We think about why security as an industry needs to start looking outside of itself to get its data - now
  • Jay discusses how there is a definite skills shortage in working with large data sets, and doing analysis
  • I ask whether there is a chicken and egg problem in large-scale data analysis
  • Bob brings up the "kill chain" and whether we really need real-time data analysis for attacks
  • Bob makes a pitch for having a "Cyber CDC" ... stop laughing
  • Jay laments the absolute bonkers problems dealing with information sharing (when you don't have any to share)
  • Jay urges you to "count and compare"

 

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03 Jul 2018DtSR Episode 303 - Advising Security Leadership00:38:18

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Thanks to my friend Brian Wrozek for joining us this week on Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast. Brian's long career as a CISO has broken several 'typical' molds... so he's a fantastic person to join us to talk about the things CISOs should be thinking about.

Highlights from this week's show include...

  1. Prioritizing projects as the CISO
  2. Getting support from the outside because "we hired you to know this"
  3. Refreshing and revisiting completed projects/tools to optimize and see a value
  4. Security is additive, we never really take anything away - is this a problem?
  5. Red team, blue team, purple team ... what happened to penetration testing?
  6. Automation, orchestration, automated response to bad
  7. Risk management, and "back to the basics" is still broken
  8. Breach after breach after breach - and nothing's changing

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12 Apr 2016DtSR Episode 189 - NewsCast for April 12th 201600:50:27

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Pros examine mossack-fonseca breach: Wordpress plugin, Drupal likely suspects

WordPress pushes free https encryption for all hosted sites

If you can't break crypto, break the client

Executives - "We're not responsible for cyber security"

 

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25 Jan 2017DtSR Episode 229 - NewsCast for January 24th 201700:45:28

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Hi friends! We're honored to be finalists for the Security Blogger Awards 2017 "Best Security Podcast" so if you listen, go vote for "Wh1t3Rabbit" (as we're labeled)

Link: https://devops.com/2017-social-security-blogger-awards-open-voting/

 

Digital transformation forces businesses to rethink cybersecurity

 

Mobile is still the safest place for your data

 

The WhatsApp Backdoor That Isn’t

  • Everyone freaked out that this is a government backdoor
  • But - check your threat model - are you really worried about this (even if it was?)
  • This is a design variation (if you freak out about this, you don’t understand the problem)
  • Link: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jan/13/what

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07 Nov 2011Down the Rabbithole - Episode 05 - Bryan Stiekes Says InfoSecurity is Fundamentally Broken00:40:22

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  This week I host Bryan Stiekes, a distinguished technologist with HP ...and not a security guy by trade.  Bryan has been a part of IT for a very long and distinguished career, with a background in networking and architecture.  Bryan's premise is that Information Security is at its core fundamentelly broken ...and I can't say I disagree.  We discuss the different aspects of what's been wrong with modern information security, and whether this is a good time to be in the 'business' of IT.

  This is a fascinating conversation for anyone who's feeling lost in IT Security ...and looking for some light at the end of the dark tunnel we've managed to wander into.

 

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  • Bryan Stiekes - Distinguished Technologist Hewlett Packard - Bryan Stiekes is an HP Distinguished Technologist with a focus on network strategy and cloud services architecture. Bryan has deep experience in secure networking and in multi-tenant services architecture to this role. Recently he's been focusing on the emerging 'as-a-Service' ecosystem and how that ecosystem impacts enterprise network and security models... and a Jedi Master.

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21 Jul 2020DtSR Episode 404 - The Wacky Wild World of OT00:43:57

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This week, on the "Episode Not Found", Rafal and James host Robert Lee from Dragos. It's a conversation about Operational Technologies that includes a deep dive into the business and management side of Industrial Controls and the Energy Sector. Robert gives us a frank, no-spin walkthrough in the good and bad of the space and talks about some of the misunderstandings many of us have. A great episode if you're interested in the non-traditional cybersecurity sector.

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11 Sep 2018DtSR Episode 313 - Cyber Law Update Sept 201800:43:03

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Friends welcome to yet another edition of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast - as we invite perennial favorite, Shawn Tuma onto the show! Shawn has a new office, a new law firm, and is giving us his take on what's new in the world of cyber and law. Listen in!

 

Highlights from this week's episode include...

  • Shawn brings up "The GDPR" and the self-imposed disaster that it has become
  • We dive into the problem with "all the data"
  • Shawn explains the idea of "necessary and proper" and case-law for data breaches
  • Shawn tells us about cyber insurance and the scariest word in the vernacular ... "negligence"

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10 Mar 2014DtR Episode 83 - NewsCast for March 10th, 201400:34:39

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13 Dec 2016DtSR Episode 224 - Pointing the Finger of Responsibility01:07:31

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On this episode of Down the Security Rabbithole we tackle the question head on. Whose responsibility is security? Is it the end user who should be responsible for patching the devices they own? Is it the vendor who sells the wares? Is it the manufacturer who sells things with security issues?

What if it was everyone's problem? How do we police, legislate and ultimately assign blame? Should we be assigning blame, and more importantly what gives with this fascination for blaming the victim?

Lots of questions are asked and we start to tackle some of the answers...maybe.

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04 May 2015DtSR Episode 141 - NewsCast for May 4th, 201500:46:24

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28 Nov 2017DtSR Episode 272 - Innovation, Startups, and the Security Bubble00:42:33

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This week, Grant and Mark join me live and in person in Las Vegas at the Amazon AWS re:Invent conference to talk about the security marketplace, innovation, "the bubble" and more.

Here's the announcement we talked about at the opening of the show

 

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26 Jul 2022DtSR Episode 510 - The Big Services Discussion - Part 100:39:10

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It's always a pleasure to have someone on the show who is an expert in their trade, someone who has experience, expertise, and depth of understanding like few others. In this case, James and I host Jim tiller - one of the people I consider a mentor and long-time friend, who is all of those things and more.

Jim is a quintessential expert on cybersecurity services - and in this discussion we push some of the buttons that really get him talking, passionate, and dispensing wisdom. I hope you brought a notepad, because you'll want to be taking notes.

This episode is for those out there who work in, or manage, services organizations. Truckloads of information here...

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06 Apr 2017DtSR Episode 239 - NewsCast for April 4th 201700:59:36

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Pew Center Survey Finds Americans Lack Understanding of Cybersecurity Measures

 

Suspect Charged in USD 100m Whaling Scheme

 

Google's Android Security 2016 Year in Review Report: Android Security Improving

 

U.S., U.K. warn airports, nuclear facilities of cyberattacks

  • Confusing - threat to airports seems to

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09 Feb 2021DtSR Episode 434 - TPA Open Source Software Security00:43:50

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This week, Jennifer Fernick of NCC Group joins me to talk about her work with open source software and security. With a storied career, Jennifer is well-qualified to talk about some really interesting topics, but finding bugs in open source software, at the scale we need it to be done, is a monumental task. 

If you're a developer and keen on innovation and open-source, and know security or are interested in learning more - I encourage you to go check out the Open Source Security Foundation here: https://openssf.org/ 

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05 Dec 2018DtSR Episode 325 - A CISO at AWS reInvent 201800:16:27

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In another episode LIVE'ish from AWS re:Invent 2018 I catch perennial favorite and long-time friend Dustin Wilcox as he wandered the vendor show floor.

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Raf asks Dustin the obvious question - what's a CISO doing at a cloud expo?
  • Dustin discusses some of the cloud transformation challenges for security teams
  • Dustin unveils the three things he is currently concerned most about for security, in the cloud
  • Dustin imparts a final piece of wisdom you won't want to miss...

 

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08 Oct 2019DtSR Episode 365 - Mountains of Data00:35:58

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Welcome back to another episode ... this one sets up DtSRs appearance at the Enfuse Conference 2019 in Las Vegas in November. Give this topic a listen, as it doesn't matter whether you're in legal, compliance, or security - you need to understand this topic well.

We want to thank Opentext for sponsoring DtSR's trip out to Las Vegas for the conference, and of course we encourage you to join us out in the desert for another really well-done conference on the intersection of law, compliance, privacy, and security.

 

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Anthony uses the phrase "data exhaust"
  • We get a peek into the intersection of big data, and big forensics
  • Anthony, James, and Rafal discuss 'real time identification' that's way beyond what your IPS can do
  • Anthony gives an insider peek into Enfuse 2019 including a keynote by James Clapper

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12 Aug 2020DtSR Episode 407 - Marcs Wild InfoSec World00:46:53

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This week, a legend of the InfoSec (or Cyber Security, for some of you) space joins me on the show. Marc Rogers has been the guy heading up Defcon security, and at the helm of the security function for some ... "highly visible" companies doing great amounts of good. Now, he's doing tremendous amounts of good during the global Covid-19 pandemic by providing cyber security services to besieged healthcare firms via the CTI League (check out their open letter here, as it may apply to you.)

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15 Nov 2022DtSR Episode 526 - Downmarket SecOps Reality00:41:28

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This podcast has attempted to go down-market a few times, with some success in discussing the important issues that service providers and security vendors oddly ignore. If you're not in the enterprise, you get ignored by 90%+ of the security vendor space, that's just fact, and that means that you're left to fend for yourself at the worst scale possible.

That's unfortunate, in the long run, because as all the vendors chase enterprise vendors, they at the same time lament the poor state of downmarket security. This podcast addresses something that may be able to help. A long-time colleague and friend has started a company and has a philosophy that we think y'all should hear about.

I'm going to encourage you to give ContraForce a look -- not just because they're named after one of my favorite video games of all time -- but because they are working hard to solve a fundamental problem that we have in the security space...small companies have big problems too.

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19 Dec 2018DtSR Episode 327 - Experienced Security Leadership00:45:50

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This week James is back on the microphone with Rafal as they interview 2 industry veterans to talk about the right approach to security leadership, and developing that talent pool. We talk to Yaron and Setu to get a sense of what their thoughts are on where good security leaders come from, and the hallmarks of that experience.

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • the curious case of the cyber head who doesn't computer
  • Yaron and Setu give us their thoughts on developing security leaders
  • Yaron shares some of his experience building a security program, across industries
  • Yaron and Setu give us a few pieces of insight for current and future security leaders

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19 Nov 2019DtSR Episode 371 - Advancing SOC-as-a-Service00:38:41

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First, and foremost, thank you to OpenText for having the #DtSR Podcast live and in-person in Las Vegas. Enfuse is a fantastic conference bringing together security operations professionals (forensics, threat hunters, SOC analysts), privacy, and legal professionals under one banner. It's a fantastic opportunity to hear some very involved talks, hear about the state-of-the-art, and join the conversation.

Also ... the people you will meet there are amazing - guests and staff.

Highlights from this week's episode include...

  • Kevin gives us an educated, experience-based opinion on threat intelligence, threat hunting, and other various key terms
  • Rafal make some snarky comments about "your mess for less" MSSPs
  • Rafal and Kevin attempt to discuss the analyst shortage - do we solve it with tech or people?

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  • Kevin Golas, Director of Worldwide Security Services at OpenText - https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevin-golas-cism-cisa-cissp-1126b01/

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17 Apr 2018DtSR Episode 292 - Navigating Industry Conferences (RSA)00:42:37

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This week, James is back and he and Raf sit down for a discussion on navigating the big industry conferences, as RSA Conference kicks off in San Francisco. We add just the right bit of snark to your day, and provide some much-needed commentary on the industry, conferences, and survival.

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • A quick overview of RSA Conference
  • Getting value, learning something, or whatever else
  • Buzzwords, and navigating marketing speak
  • Attendee personas: buyer, attendee, vendor - there is a huge difference in how you experience a conference from these angles
  • Feature, product, or startup (sometimes they're the same thing!)
  • Tips, tricks and ideas for having a successful experience

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15 May 2018DtSR Episode 296 - Hype Machine Off the Rails00:52:34

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This week, former analyst and security industry veteran Adrian Sanabria joins James & Rafal to talk about some of the hype in our industry. From current events, to learning lessons, to the on-going master-class in bullsh*t we convince ourselves of - this podcast is a riveting (although slightly longer) episode of free-flowing discussion.

 

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • We discuss #eFail - and the circus maximus of ridiculousness that it currently is
  • Adrian gives us some views on believing our own nonsense
  • We attempt to discuss how we got to this point
  • Much more!

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26 Aug 2020DtSR Episode 409 - Dunlap Time 2020 Edition00:52:19

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Hey friends, it's Tuesday so time for another dazzling edition of the podcast. This week we welcome Brandon Dunlap - hair model, professional snarkist - back to the show. This is Brandon's fourth trip around the merry-go-round, so I think he holds the record now. Someone may want to fact-check that... Brandon talks about transitioning between roles, managing big orgs, very remotely, and of course "Would you ever go back to a CISO role?"

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21 Oct 2013DtR Episode 63 - NewsCast for October 21st, 201300:44:20

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Thanks to Josh Corman for joining us this morning ... always nice to have Josh's experience and brain power on the show.

Topics Covered

Hat-tips this week go to...

  • Brian Katz ( @bmkatz ) because we borrowed your 'crapplications' example
  • Alex Hutton ( @AlexHutton ) - Josh borrowed your "Alex head asplode"
  • Wendy Nather ( @451Wendy ) because we mentioned your 'security poverty line' concept

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10 Aug 2016DtSR Episode 206 - Vulnerabilities, Disclosure, Ethics, Research and Security01:01:21

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In this episode we chat with Steve Christey Coley currently the Principal Information Security Engineer over at MITRE Corp. In this episode we talk through our industry's obsession with vulnerabilities, dive headlong into the thorny issue of security research, talk through the various issues with disclosure and even delve into some ethics issues.

This episode is content-packed with some content that you will likely want to talk to us about. So here's how to find us:

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Steve's Bio (from LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-christey-coley-66aa1826):

Editor / Technical Lead for the Common Vulnerabilities and Exposures (CVE) project; Technical Lead for the Common Weakness Enumeration (CWE); co-author of the "Responsible Vulnerability Disclosure Process" IETF draft with Chris Wysopal in 2002; participant in Common Vulnerability Scoring System (CVSS) and NIST's Static Analysis Tool Exposition (SATE). My primary interests include secure software development and testing, understanding the strengths and limitations of automated code analysis tools, the theoretical underpinnings of vulnerabilities, making software security accessible to the general public, vulnerability information management including post-disclosure analysis, and vulnerability research.

Specialties: Vulnerability research, vulnerability management, software security.

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13 Apr 2021DtSR Episode 442 - S11E15 - TPA Fighting the Good Fight00:40:19

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This week, the show is back after a brief spring break, and we have with us Dmitri Alperovitch - who has taken on a new venture in his latest role. We discuss cybersecurity policy, government's role in private enterprise defense, and why you should probably never run your own MS Exchange Server.

Lots of great content from the always informative and entertaining Dmitri.

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22 Nov 2013DtR Episode 68 - Buffer's Big Hack00:38:19

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I want to thank Carolyn Kopprasch and the @BufferApp team for getting back to me, and agreeing to not only join the podcast, but also field questions from "anyone" ...what a cool group of people!

In this episode

  • Carolyn gives us some of the insider's perspective on what really happened, when Buffer got hacked
  • Carolyn and I discuss triage methodology, and how Buffer's small team responded
  • In-depth conversation on the communications strategy and implemented plan to be totally transparent
  • We discuss that point where it's time to "shut it down" and the need to have the ability and information to make the decision Buffer's team did when they shut down the service temporarily
  • Carolyn talks about some of the non-typical ways that her team detects potential security issues
  • Caroly dispenses some solid advice for anyone in a small shop that may be operating ultra-lean
  • Finally, Carolyn and I talk about software security and what role it (or the lack thereof) played in the Buffer incident

Guest

  • Carolyn Kopprasch ( @CaroKopp ) - Carolyn is currently Buffer's "Chief Happiness Officer". Her role is to make sure that Buffer's customers are, in fact, happy. Also she has a web presence right here: http://CaroKopp.com

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08 Nov 2016DtSR Episode 219 - NewsCast for Nov 8th 201600:47:56

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It is election day.. Have you voted?

 

Beware, IPhone Users: Fake retail apps are surging before the holidays

 

Moving Beyond EMET

 

Tesco Bank blames ‘systematic sophisticated attack’ for account losses

  • Fraud system appears to be working - good
  • ~40,000 accounts affected, ½ of those lost money
  • Tesco is putting funds back, making things right
  • Core banking assets don’t appear compromised, ATMs and such still work
  • Potentially an issue with website, fixable
  • http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37891742
 

Google Discloses “Critical Flaw” in Microsoft OS 10 Days After Notifying

  • Microsoft upset at Google
  • Google says it meets their 7-days-to-disclosure policy from 2013
  • How do you even patch an issue in 7 days - or write up a mitigation if there is none?
  • Is your company prepared to deal with this type of t

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27 Oct 2020DtSR Episode 418 - TPA Another Security Inflection Point00:38:56

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This week on DtSR, John Steven joins Rafal & James to talk about an inflection point in security that's happening right now. As you may notice, everything about security is changing, especially in the AppSec space... listen in and you'll hear John's thoughts on a very interesting time to be in the industry.

Evolve, or die... 

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25 May 2012Down the Rabbithole - Episode 16 - Spacerog and Shpantzer talk CyberPocalypse00:38:28

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In this episode, streamed live and recorded for your listening pleasure, I'm joined by @SpaceRog and @Shpantzer from Security BSides Delaware.  What started out as an off-the-cuff discussion on the 'Cyber Apocalypse' quickly materialized into a much longer discussionw which dove into various aspects of infrastructure security, critical protection and even the inability to separate the physical from the cyber worlds.  Join us for a little bit of nostalgia, a little bit of knowledge and a lot of commentary from these two very smart staples of the security community.

This is one of those conversations which I barely edited... it was free-flowing, entertaining and insightful.  I hope you enjoy it!

Guests

  • @Spacerog - Spacerog is one of the founders of L0pht, and founder of the HNN (Hacker News Network) way, way back in "the day"... He has a full profile here.
  • @Shpantzer - Shpantzer is a veteran of the security industry and describes himself as "Information security and risk management consultant. Strong project manager with interdisciplinary skillset to solve complex business and technical problems."  He also writes for the "Shpantzer on Security" blog (which you should be following).

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06 Dec 2022DtSR Episode 529 - The CISOs Guide to Liability00:40:26

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This is a very interesting episode... Gadi Evron joins James and me on this slightly technically difficult (the IPoCP - IP over Carrier Pigeon - was awful at times) episode to talk about the CISO role and the potential liabilities that lie within. Whether we're talking about the Joe Sullivan case (and we're not, or we try not to), or we're generalizing about employment and legal culpability - this show traverses a lot of land and it's all worth your time.

Hopefully if I did an OK job, you won't notice all the edits :)

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05 Aug 2013DtR Episode 52 - Advanced threats, remedial defenses, broken record00:42:34

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In this episode...

  • Dave reminisces a bit...
  • Dave discusses 'digitall signed malware' and that it means
  • We discuss whether it's true that 'all networks are compromised'
  • We discuss consumer-grade vs. corporate-grade threats, and why they're different
  • An interesting point by Dave about why enterprises aren't learning from their compromises
  • We discuss customized malware, with specific and targeted payloads for specific systems
  • Dave talks about whether 'compat the criminal, hire the criminal' is true

Guest

  • Dave Marcus ( @DaveMarcus ) - Dave is currently the Chief Architect, Advanced Research and Threat Intelligence McAfee Federal Advanced Programs Group. He's been around the industry for a long time, and has influenced countless numbers of researchers. He is well known as a fantastic speaker, subject-matter expert and generally a badass, and I feel lucky enough to call him my friend.

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28 Jul 2014DtR Episode 103 - NewsCast for July 28th, 201400:39:52

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Not discussed, but interesting reads:

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06 Apr 2015DtSR Episode 137 - NewsCast for April 6th, 201500:46:19

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23 Nov 2021DtSR Episode 475 - Community Sourced Threat Instructions00:45:22

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Fair warning y'all, this episode may have been just slightly more fun than the Surgeon General allows. That said, on this one we not only made up some new terms ("Threat Instructions", Anton) but also had some fun describing what a well-functioning system of highly automate-able threat data would look like. And as it turns out, it's CrowdSec's "Fire" data set.

Fascinating conversation, and most fascinating of all is that as Philippe described how it functions, Anton could find nothing wrong with it. Call me gobsmacked.

If you're interested in participating in the Crowd, click this link - because a typo will put you in a very weird and very different sort of crowd.

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20 Nov 2018DtSR Episode 323 - Security of a Global Enterprise01:00:44

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On episode 323, Richard Rushing (aka the "Security Ninua") joins us to talk about being the CISO of a global organization, and multi-national enterprise.

 

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  • Richard talks to us about his background
  • We discuss the unique challenges of a multinational enterprise
  • Richard gives us some wisdom on how to approach "the business"
  • Richard provides some advice for keeping prioritization and sanity

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24 Jun 2020DtSR Episode 400 - Tom Nichols on Expertise00:43:33

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Friends and Colleagues!

We've made it. Milestone episode 400 of the podcast is here. And for the 400th episode I have none other than Mr. Tom Nichols. He's truly a qualified expert on a topic that needs some serious attention in today's world - expertise. In fact, he's written a book about it.

Please enjoy this episode, share it, and I want to thank Tom for taking the time out of his crazy schedule to laugh, educate, and drop a little bit of snark into our day.

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01 Mar 2017DtSR Episode 234 - Straight Talk on National Security00:52:22

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This week, the interview is extra special because we have a guest I've personally been following for a long while, and I finally got a chance to virtually sit down and talk through his considerable areas of expertise.

I'm pleasured to say we had a chance to sit down virtually with Professor Tom Nichols and talk international affairs, foreign policy and all the important things getting lost in the off-color political arguments lately. These are important issues to cyber security professionals that impact our daily lives - but rarely get discussed by someone with actual, credentialed expertise.

Enjoy this one, friends, I know we did recording it. I want to thank Tom for being an awesome guest and lending his time to our show.

If you want to read Tom's latest book, you can get it on Amazon, link HERE.

 

Guest

  • Tom Nichols ( @RadioFreeTom ): 

    Dr. Thomas M. Nichols is a Professor in the Department of National Security Affairs at the U.S. Naval War College and at the Harvard Extension School, where he worked with the U.S. Air Force to create the program for the Certificate in Nuclear Deterrence Studies. He is a former Secretary of the Navy Fellow, and held the Naval War College's Forrest Sherman Chair of Public Diplomacy. Dr. Nichols was previously the chairman of the Strategy and Policy Department at the Naval War College. Before coming to Newport, he taught international relations and Soviet/Russian affairs at Dartmouth College and Georgetown University.

    Dr. Nichols was personal staff for defense and security affairs in the United States Senate to the late Sen. John Heinz of Pennsylvania, and was a Fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, DC. He is currently a Senior Associate of the Carnegie Council on Ethics and International Affairs in New York City. He was recently a Fellow in the International Security Program at the John F. Kennedy School at Harvard University.

    He is the author of several books and articles, including Eve of Destruction: The Coming of Age of Preventive War (University of Pennsylvania Press, 2008), and No Use: Nuclear Weapons and U.S. National Security (University of Pennsylvania, 2014). His most recent book, The Death of Expertise: The Campaign Against Established Knowledge and Why It Matters was released by Oxford in 2017.

    Dr. Nichols holds a PhD from Georgetown, an MA from Columbia University, the Certificate of the Harriman Institute for Advanced Study of the Soviet Union at Columbia, and a BA from Boston University.

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26 May 2014DtR Episode 94 - ICANN, Tor, and Internet Freedom00:41:37

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  • Jeff explains the background of the relationship between the US government, ICANN and IANA
  • What is the ITU and why is this $0 contract handoff to the ITU such a big deal?
  • What impact did Edward Snowden's actions have on the issue?
  • The potential issues with DNS, cross-border censorship and DNS
  • The importance of Tor, Freenet and challenges of implementation
  • Discussing the evolution of services like Tor through "nation-state firewalls"
  • Changing the image of anonymous services
  • Making Tor and similar services more user-friendly, and more prevalent

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  • Jeff Moss ( @TheDarkTangent ) - Jeff, also known as The Dark Tangent, is an American hacker, computer security expert and internet security expert who founded the Black Hat and DEF CON computer Hacker conferences. His Wikipedia page can be found here.

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04 Oct 2022DtSR Episode 520 - The War With Online Scammers00:40:35

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We start Cyber Security Awareness Month - the 30-day window where corporate law requires you to check the box and take boring security 'awareness' training, then forget it November 1st. Not my favorite month... so what about scammers, criminals, and bad people who prey upon those who aren't covered by corporate mandated training? Join us, let's talk about it.

 

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23 Aug 2018DtSR Episode 310 - RFP POC OMG00:33:03

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This week, Rafal & James discuss one of the bigger challenges that an enterprise security team faces today - evaluating new/replacement security tools and services. Listen close if you're on the enterprise side, and listen closer if you're selling to them.

 

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  • We address the difficulties of evaluating or replacing technologies or services
  • Rafal takes you into the "better" trap, and how you can avoid it
  • We discuss defining concrete problem statements
  • James & Rafal talk through the challenges of defining good requirements and evaluating
  • We address how to pick a winner - or not

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31 Jan 2017DtSR Episode 230 - The IoT You Got for Christmas01:00:26

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On this Down the Security Rabbithole podcast we're joined by Stephen A. Ridley & Jamison Utter (yes, again with this guy) for a discussion on the finer points of Internet of Things (IoT) security ... or complete lack thereof.

If you own gadgets that are 'connected' or you are ever around them (hint: you're surrounded by things that pull IP addresses right now) then you need to listen to this podcast. Some great discussion in what was the very first podcast we recorded in 2017.

 

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05 Apr 2016DtSR Episode 188 - Security Talent Truths00:48:36

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Intro song: "Josh Gabriel - Deep Down"; Intro/Outro v/o courtesy of @ToddHaverkos

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11 Oct 2022DtSR Episode 521 - The Peanut Gallery Takes on XDR01:07:28

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Our industry has been talking about XDR for a while now. Some people think it's the savior, some people think it's marketing garbage - and neither of them really understands what this "thing" named XDR is. Well, I figure we'll get some smart people on the podcast, people who live in this field and use this word a lot, and giddy up.

This episode is slightly PG-13'ish ... because Anton has a potty mouth and I don't want to edit.

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01 Aug 2018DtSR Episode 307 - Building and Teaching in Chicago00:33:33

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On this episode of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast, Rafal is in Chicago for a few days and visiting with a long-time friend and colleague, Don Donzal. Don has some great history in the Chicago hacking and security professional scene, so we take a stroll down memory lane, talk about what he's doing now, and take a long look ahead. Join us!

 

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Don gives us a little insight into where Ethical Hacker Network got started
  • A history of Chicago Con - anyone been?
  • Life, family, career - and how balancing all of that and still doing what you love is important
  • A look into the future of the new venture!

 

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07 Jul 2020DtSR Episode 402 - Life Security Adulthood00:43:57

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First, I need to apologize for the quality of my (Rafal) audio. For a reason I don't understand, the Skype central record feature absolutely butchered it - could have been something on my end, I simply don't know. It should be listenable, albeit annoying.

Second, huge thanks to Carlos for taking the time out of his busy morning from being a dad and his day job to talk to us. He's got a lot of really interesting and important things to share about his adventures in our industry and community - you should probably listen closely.

Lastly - I have t-shirts to give away. If you want one, follow & re-tweet the @DtSR_Podcast handle and we'll pick a few of you (probably at random) to send shirts to.

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05 Jun 2018DtSR Episode 299 - Leadership Lessons w Chris Abramson00:41:29

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Special thanks to Chris for doing this in-person. It was a fun conversation and always a pleasure!

 

Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Chris and I talk about measuring 'risk'
  • We discuss 'brittle systems' which apparently are still alive and kicking
  • Risk analysis, cloud computing, and your business

 

Guest

  • Chris Abramson ( @cabramson50 ) - Director, Information Security Delivery & Engineering; Team oriented Enterprise Information Security Management professional seeking to improve the security of organizations through education and practice. Qualifications include a bachelors degree in computer science; CISM, CISA, CEH and ECSA certification. Understanding of Industry, State and Federal regulatory standards. Ten years of experience in the creation and deployment of Information Security solutions for protecting the networks, systems and data assets of a fortune 50 company.

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30 Aug 2022DtSR Episode 515 - Gadi Evron Talks PostBreach and Disinformation00:45:34

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This week's guest is always a great interview. Gadi Evron has been around the industry longer than it's been an officially named discipline. In this episode, he talks about post-breach standards and the apparent but not previously discussed need. He also breaks your brain with disinformation, which we only lightly touch on before realizing we need at least one more podcast to go deeper into the topic.

Join us, and share this one, it's awesome.

 

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03 Mar 2020DtSR Episode 384 - Zero Trust Redux 202000:38:40

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This week Rafal hosts Dr. Chase Cunningham, Forrester analyst and all-around security badass to redux Zero Trust. The last time we tackled the topic was Episode 222 with John Kindervag back in 2016 - so it's time to see what's new.

Zero trust is more than just firewall rules, and it encompasses a lot of security technologies we don't even think about - so this update is a great primer for 2020.

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23 Sep 2013DtR Episode 58 - NewsCast for September 23rd, 201300:41:26

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I want to thank Mr. Josh Corman ( @JoshCorman ) for guest-commentating today's episode, and lending his expertise and industry leadership point of view.

Topics Covered

More information on The Cavalry

The talk: "The Cavalry Isn't Coming: Starting the Revolution to FSCK it all!"

The video of the more mellow, smaller BSides "warm-up before DEF CON 21" is here: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/bsideslasvegas2013/1-2-2-the-cavalry-isnt-coming-starting-the-revolution-to-fsck-it-all-nicholas-j-percoco-and-joshua-corman

Twitter: @iamthecavalry

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Joshua Corman is the Directo

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24 Nov 2014DtSR Episode 120 - Hacking the Human (again)00:46:42

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In this episode

  • We revisit the 'human' side of hacking
  • Chris tells us all about the Defcon CTF his team has hosted
  • We discuss the role human nature plays in social engineering, or "Why the bad guys always win"
  • Chris gives us his tips for making it harder for social engineers
  • Michael and Chris talk metrics and measuring "getting better"

 

Guest

  • Chris Hadnagy@HumanHacker ) - Chris Hadnagy (author of Social-Engineering: The Art of Human Hacking and Unmasking the Social Engineer: The Human Element of Security) is a speaker, teacher, pentester, and recognized expert in the field of social engineering and security.

    Chris Hadnagy is the President and CEO of Social-Engineer, Inc. He has spent the last 16 years in security and technology, specializing in understanding the ways in which malicious attackers are able to exploit human weaknesses to obtain access to information and resources through manipulation and deceit.

    Chris is a graduate of Dr. Paul Ekman’s courses in Microexpressions, having passed the certification requirements with an “Expert Level” grade. He also has significant experience in training and educating students in non-verbal communications. He hold certifications as an Offensive Security Certified Professional (OSCP) and an Offensive Security Wireless Professional (OSWP).

    Finally, Chris has launched a line of professional social engineering training and penetration testing services at Social-Engineer.Com. His goal is to assist companies in remaining secure by educating them on the methods used by malicious attackers. He accomplishes this by analyzing, studying, dissecting, then performing the very same attacks used during some of the most recent incidents (i.e. Sony, HB Gary, LockHeed Martin, Target, etc), Chris is able to help companies understand their vulnerabilities, mitigate issues, and maintain appropriate levels of education and security.

    Chris has developed one of the web’s most successful security podcasts, The Social-Engineer.Org Podcast, and the equally-popular SEORG Newsletter. Over the years, both have become a staple in most serious security practices and are used by Fortune 500 companies around the world to educate their staff.

    You can find Chris's articles for local, national, and international publications and journals, including Pentest Mag, EthicalHacker.net, and local and national Business Journals.

 

Links:

  • Social Engineer Org - Your one-stop place for podcast, newsletter, and all things social engineering from Chris's team - http://www.social-engineer.org/
  • SECTF Report -

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28 Jan 2020DtSR Episode 380 - Gadi Tells It Like It Is00:47:01

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Welcome to episode 380 of the DtSR Podcast.

We have a special treat for you this episode, with long-time friend Gadi Evron, and he holds nothing back in his start discussion of our industry. We virtually guarantee this will quickly be your favorite episode...or at least your top 5.

Highlights from this week's episode include...

  • Gadi unloads on the 'attackers in the spotlight' nature of security conferences
  • Gadi & Raf chat about 25 years of incidents and what it's leading up to
  • Gadi is clearly not a fan of "Just do the basics"
  • Raf & Gadi decide we're clearly going to have to do this again...

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13 Sep 2011The #SecBiz Podcast - Talking "Cloud Security" with Phil Cox00:51:55

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Phil Cox joins Rafal (aka Wh1t3 Rabbit) and Martin McKeay and a gallery of others dicussing the issues with the very nebulous term "Cloud Security", and what it means, and how we as vendors can realistically help the consumers of cloud get a handle on what the heck this all means.

Fascinating conversation ensues.

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09 Feb 2016DtSR Episode 180 - From the CISO Perspective00:42:44

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In this episode...

  • Andrew discusses a few of the key challenges making it difficult for the healthcare sector right now
  • Robb, Andrew and Raf discuss the importance of identity in the corporate environment
  • Robb and Andrew give some of their wisdom for the successes and failures of CISOs (and the broader security industry)
  • We discuss the technical vs executive CISO approach (which is better?)
  • Robb and Andrew provide some unfiltered advice for CISOs and those who want to become them

Guests

  • Robb Reck ( @RobbReck ) - Chief Information Security Officer at Ping Identity, contributor to ISSA Denver with a long history as a successful security executive and leader.
  • Andrew Labbo - Drew is the CISO at Denver Health and Hospital Authority and is the owner and principal of RMHG, which offers HIPAA consulting and HIPAA advisory services. Drew has over 15 years’ experience with information security and technology and over 10 years’ experience as a Privacy and Data Security Officer. He is an expert on HIPAA Privacy and Security Rule regulations as well as HITECH and Omnibus regulatory updates. Drew’s recommendations are guided by his education in health administration and experience and leadership integrating privacy and security controls with health information technology infrastructure and applications, as well as treatment, payment, operations, and human subjects research workflows and processes.

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18 Apr 2017DtSR Episode 241 - NewsCast for April 18th 201700:46:28

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NewsCast for Tuesday April 18th, 2017

 

Dallas Tornado Sirens Hijacked

 

Two Inmates in Ohio Jail Hacked it From the Inside

 

SWIFT Launches New Anti-Fraud Controls in Wake of Wire Frauds

 

Huge Adobe Security Update Just Released

  • 59 total vulnerabilities - Flash still a big chunk of that (surprise!)
  • 44 are considered critical - “code execution bugs”
  • Enterprises should download, test and deploy -- how are you handli

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15 Jul 2015DtSR FeatureCast - HTCIA International Conference 2015 Preview00:22:26

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  • Peter Morin joins us to talk through the upcoming HTCIA International 2015 Conference in sunny Orlando, Florida.
  • We talk through a preview of talks, events, and some interesting reasons you should be going to HTCIA Int'l
  • Check out the incredible lineup of keynotes, speakers and talks - http://www.htciaconference.org/
  • Come see the #DtSR crew live and in person as we record and broadcast from the conference

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26 Jul 2016DtSR Episode 204 - On Changing Culture00:44:08

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This week, Chris Romeo joins Michael, James and I to talk about changing the security posture of an organization by changing culture. This episode talks through tough issues like incentives, measurements and success factors. This episode with Chris is of particular interest for leaders and those who are working hard to change companies at their core, for the long term.

 

Chris Romeo's bio:

Chris Romeo is CEO and co-founder of Security Journey. His passion is to bring application security awareness to all organizations, large and small. He was the Chief Security Advocate at Cisco Systems for five years, where he guided Cisco’s Secure Development Life Cycle program, empowering engineers to "build security in" to all products at Cisco. He led the creation of Cisco’s internal, end-to-end application security awareness program launched in 2012. Chris has twenty years of experience in security, holding positions in application security, penetration testing, and incident response. Chris holds the CISSP and CSSLP certifications, and is a frequent conference speaker at RSA and AppSec.

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15 Oct 2019DtSR Episode 366 - D I Why and How00:39:00

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Welcome Down the Security Rabbithole, to the DtSR Podcast.

This week, Zac Rosenbauer joins us to talk about what it's like to be "the IT guy" who also has to be vigilant of security in a fast-paced startup...based on Google's cloud platform. It's a riveting episode that will give you some good guideposts if you're about to DIY.

Highlights from this week's episode include...

  • Zac introduces what it's like to work in a rapidly evolving startup
  • We discuss some of the DIY that Zac has had to work with
  • Wait ... compliance...

 

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13 Sep 2017DtSR Episode 261 - Deeper Down the ML Rabbit Hole00:54:56

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Welcome to another Down the Security Rabbithole episode folks!

This week, Alex and Sven are baaaaaaack for a deeper dive into machine learning and the shenanigans that surround it. We talk through what ML is, some use-cases and further dispell some common myths. We even have a little fun, who knew.

 

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16 Jan 2018DtSR Episode 279 - Deeper Down the SDP Rabbithole00:44:28

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This week, Jason Garbis re-joins the podcast to go past the Primer (Episode 257) and dive deeper into SDP (Software Defined Perimeter) with a discussion on cloud and relevance to the re-invention of the data center and related infrastructure.

 

Related DtSR listening:

 

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09 Mar 2015DtSR Episode 133 - NewsCast for March 9th, 201500:36:45

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11 Feb 2012Down the Rabbithole - Special - "Master the Cloud" Calgary (w/celebrity guest Adam Growe)00:31:25

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Synopsis

  We were "live to tape" (as Adam says) from HP's Master the Cloud event in Calgary.  As we wrap up the road tour in the frozen city of Calgary I had the pleasure of sitting down with a comedian and celebrity, a technical expert on virtualization from HP, and the manager of Intel's advanced server technologies team.  This was a wild, off-the-rails discussion and you can really tell we were just having a good time and excited to wrap up the tour.  Great topics of discussion...

Topics covered in this episode include...

  • Hypervisors and their value to cloud computing, virtualization and hacking
  • Why are hypervisors critical to cloud computing?
  • Will Intel build a hypervisor into the silicone?
  • How robust driver stacks keep hypervisors 'safe' on the software level...
  • "Raising the bar" on security (analogies of a department store)
  • Virtualization of compute resources & BYOD ...slightly off the rails
  • Federation of identities, and applied to social media

 

Special Guests

  • Jake Smith (Advanced Server Technologies Manager at Intel Corp.) - Jake was a keynote speaker at HP's "Master the Cloud" tour across Canada speaking about Intel's vision for a more connected, more virtualized, and more secure Cloud Computing environment; including Intel's partnerships with HP and some of the advancements they have embarked on together.  Jake can be found on LinkedIn here: http://www.linkedin.com/in/jakesmith42
  • Adam Growe (Celebrity host of Cash Cab Canada) - Adam is the host of Canada's "Cash Cab" show on the Discovery Channel.  Additionally, Adam has his own quiz show ("The Adam Growe Quiz Show") and is a recognized celebrity, accomplished comedian and emcee, and has the uncanny gift to derail any boring IT conversation! Adam can be found on FaceBook here: http://fb.com/AdamGrowe and on his own site: http://adamgrowe.com - on behalf of HP I wish to thank Adam for his presence and making us all chuckle.
  • Emrah Alpa (HP TippingPoint technical specialist) - Emrah in addition to being an accomplished DJ is the Northwest Canada regional HP TippingPoint technical expert.

 

Links

  • HP TippingPoint Secure Virtualization Framework (

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23 May 2017DtSR FeatureCast - Enfuse Conf 2017 - Preamble00:18:15

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We kick off a week of on-the-scene podcasts live'ish from Enfuse Conference 2017, hosted by Guidance Software in Las Vegas, Nevada with Lori Chavez VP of Corporate Marketing. She is the brains responsible for the amazing conference including speakers, content and everything else.

Lori gives YOU an insider preview of Enfuse 2017, and tells us a little about what we can expect and some history of the conference - and we can't wait to give you MORE!

Stay tuned in all week as we bring you more fantastic content from Enfuse Conference 2017. And as always, use the hashtag #DtSR to talk back to James and I or #EnfuseCon17 to interact with speakers and attendees!

Just for DtSR listeners - we will post a special coupon code for next year's registration... just for listening. Don't miss it later this week!

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12 Oct 2015DtSR Episode 164 - 3rd Party and Supply Chain Risks00:31:03

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Guest:

  • Josh Douglas - CTO for Raytheon Cyber Products – has nearly two decades of experience in helping global enterprises and government agencies secure their most prized business/mission assets. During his past 9 years at Raytheon, he has overseen Raytheon’s Cyber Security Intelligence Operations, Malware Concepts, Security Infrastructure Operations and Research Technologies tasked to produce effective forward-looking cyber software solutions to contain and control advanced threats. These solutions are used to help commercial and government entities protect their enterprises and the global cyber supply chain from ever-changing advanced persistent threats and malware.

    Prior to joining Raytheon, Joshua has a successful track record in network security operations and engineering management positions, securing enterprise environments while promoting contextual response. Prior employers include Enterasys Networks, Kronos, Genuity, MIT Lincoln Laboratory and other prominent enterprises. Joshua earned a Bachelor of Science Degree in Computer Science from Appalachian State University and currently holds a number of technical computer and network security certifications. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jdouglas

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20 Sep 2022DtSR Episode 518 - Go Big or Go Home00:44:06

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Solving problems is a challenge not everyone is up for. The industry is littered with people and companies that bring small-time solutions to an industry begging and pleading for actual solutions. Jason Clark of Netskope, and long-time friend, joins James and Rafal to talk about the mindset and approach needed to solve BIG problems that change the game, change the landscape, and change our lives.

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20 Sep 2017DtSR Episode 262 - Deeper Down the Cyber Liability Insurance Rabbithole00:50:54

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This episode, in conjunction with the Security Advisor Alliance ( https://www.securityadvisoralliance.org/ ) we dive into a third round of Cyber Liability Insurance. This fascinating discussion dives deeper into the things security leaders need to know as Travis and Stephen get right to the heart of matters.

Required pre-listening...

Check out the first episode (way back in the archives) on DtSR Episode 34 - The Inside Scoop on Cyber Liability Insurance ( http://podcast.wh1t3rabbit.net/episode-34-the-inside-scoop-on-cyber-liability-insurance ) with Christine Marciano ( @DataPrivacyRisk ).

Then, go grab episode 172, our 2nd foray into this topic titled "The Truth on Cyber Insurance" ( http://podcast.wh1t3rabbit.net/dtsr-episode-172-the-truth-on-cyber-insurance ) with Eran Kahana and L. Keith Burkhardt and dive a little deeper.

 

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13 Feb 2018DtSR Episode 283 - Testing Security Into Applications00:49:45

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This week an old friend, Vinnie Liu of Bishop Fox, joins Raf and James to talk about the history of App Sec. We started trying to test ourselves secure, and we continue to come back to it - so this episode is a walk down memory lane and a glimpse into the future of application security.

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  • Vinnie Liu ( @VinnieLiu ) - Vincent Liu (CISSP) is a Partner at Bishop Fox, a security consulting firm providing services to the Fortune 500, global financial institutions, and high-tech startups. With nearly two decades of experience, Vincent is an expert in security strategy, red teaming, and product security; and at Bishop Fox, he oversees firm strategy and client relationships. 

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19 Jun 2019DtSR Episode 351 - Deeper Into the Microsoft Security Ecosystem00:38:44

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Highlights from this week's show include...

  • Rob discusses what "Microsoft Threat Protection" is, isn't, and why it's relevant today
  • Rob gives us some context to "trillions of signals" - what does that mean?
  • Rob provides perspective on the pillars of operational excellence required to make Microsoft's vision a reality in damn-near-real-time
  • Rafal and Rob discuss what the ecosystem looks like, and how it's being released into production
    Rob answers whether Microsoft consumes its own tools… the answer may surprise you

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  • Rob Lefferts - @rob_lefferts -

    Microsoft Responsibilities/Contributions – As corporate vice president for M365 Security within Experiences and Devices, Rob Lefferts is responsible for ensuring that Microsoft 365 provides a comprehensive and cohesive security experience for our all of our customers. Prior to this role, he led the Windows Enterprise & Security team, where he was responsible for hardening the Windows platform, building intelligent security agents, and driving commercial adoption of Windows 10. Since joining Microsoft in 1997, Lefferts has been instrumental in shaping key products and technologies, from helping develop the original SharePoint Portal Server to leading extensibility efforts for the Office platform to championing the vision for Microsoft 365. 

    Pre-Microsoft Work Experience – Rob began his career at Claritech, a startup that was born from a Carnegie Mellon research project. He then consulted with the Government of Namibia, Africa.

    Education – He earned a bachelor’s degree in logic and computation, as well as a master’s degree in computation linguistics, from Carnegie Mellon University.

    Family/Other Interests – Rob and his wife have two children and live in the Seattle area.

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11 Apr 2017DtSR Episode 240 - The Truth About Machine Learning00:54:01

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This week the Down the Security Rabbithole podcast hosts Sven Krasser of CrowdStrike. Sven is an actual machine learning data science expert (as opposed to an "expert") who has been dabbling in machine learning, artificial intelligence and other forms of advanced computational science for a long while before it was popular in security. This week we James and Raf sit him down for 45 or so minutes to discuss the real facts and separate them from the fiction of what machine learning really is and the promise that it may hold for the enterprise security world.

As always, join us, share, and engage our crew using the hashtag #DtSR on Twitter.

We'd like to take a moment to thank Sven and Crowdstrike for the time and expertise to our show.

 

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  • Sven Krasser ( @SvenKrasser ) - Dr. Sven Krasser currently serves as Chief Scientist at CrowdStrike where he leads the machine learning efforts utilizing CrowdStrike’s Big Data information security platform. He has productized machine learning-based systems for over a decade and most recently led the research and development of the first fully machine learning-based anti-malware engine featured on VirusTotal. Dr. Krasser has authored numerous peer-reviewed publications and is co-inventor of more than two dozen patented network and host security technologies.

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29 Aug 2012DtR Episode 21 - Guests: Wickett, Galbreath, Saudan - "Deploy faster, safer"00:45:01

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In this episode we ask the big question of "Can security be a part of the 'build/deploy faster!' culture?"  We discuss the need to separate out high/low risk code, understanding how to deploy dormant components of the applications, proper testing strategies and branching/merging in a world where faster isn't just an ask, it's a need to stay competitive.

A huge thank you to all my guests for their time and expert insight.  The combined talent and experience of my 3 guests is something you should absolutely take a listen to, as these gentlemen really know what they're talking about - whether it's Information/Application Security, or DevOps ... this is a discussion that bridges both with expert precision.

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  • Nick Galbreath - Nick's Linked-In profile says he's been at 5 early to very early startups, all sold, IPO'd or huge - all dealing with massive scaling in load and large data sets.  FaceBook now owns a half-dozen of his patents on social graphs, and Google is using some of his code in Chrome!  On top of that, he's written a book on cryptography too... when he's not out building start-ups, Nick's speaking/teaching or hacking away at code to find better, bigger exploits and fixes.
  • James Wickett - James is an innovative thought leader in the DevOps and Information Security communities, and has a passion for helping big companies work like start-ups to deliver products in the cloud.  He got his start in technology when he ran a web startup company as a student, and James is currently employed as a Senior DevOps Engineer working on launching cloud-based products for the Embedded Software division of Mentor Graphics.  James' bio is linked here.
  • Olivier Saudan - Olivier is a software security analyst with 10 yeras experience in operations (including Information Security) and a significant development background.  He keeps his identity and employer a mystery due to the nature of his work, and the need for discretion.

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17 Nov 2014DtR Episode 119 - NewsCast for November 17th, 201400:41:11

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27 Nov 2018DtSR Episode 324 - AWS reInvent 2018 Preamble00:24:08

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This episode of the Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast is sponsored in part by Armor Cloud Security. Go check us out at www.armor.com!

 

This week's show is a multi-part release from AWS re:Invent 2018. We sit down with two of Armor's solutions consultants to discuss trends, insights from day 0, and discuss anticipated moves and market shifts.

Expect this to be an insightful episode where we dive into cloud security from a development and security perspective.

 

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11 Dec 2018DtSR Episode 326 - MidMarket Security00:40:51

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This week, go down the security rabbit hole with someone who has been working on security in the mid-market (likely the kind of company you work at, statistically) for a long time. Bob has some great lessons learned and is willing to share. Listen in

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  • Bob gives a quick history of how he "hacked into hacking"
  • A discussion of breaking into security
  • Bob & Raf discuss security in the mid-market, and how it's fundamentally different than other market segments
  • Bob discusses hiring, talent acquisition and "working from home" in today's job market

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12 May 2022DtSR Episode 500 - Looking Back to Look Forward - Part 201:03:07

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First - thank you to everyone who listens to this show, shares it, and has left us a review. You all are the reason these past 500 episodes got published, and why this show will keep going into the forseeable future!

Link to video: https://www.linkedin.com/video/event/urn:li:ugcPost:6917850703235321856/

This episode features some of my favorite guests from the last 500 episodes, with something to say. We cover a lot of ground, totally unscripted, and we have opinions. 

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26 Apr 2017DtSR Episode 242 - Management and Leadership00:49:31

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This week the team gets together to talk Management and Leadership in the security industry and in general. Our very own Michael Santarcangelo joins us as our featured guest to dispense knowledge on leadership by the truckload. So grab a cup of coffee, something to take notes and listen in.

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12 Jul 2016DtSR Episode 202 - Outsourced but Better00:45:52

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This week on the Down the Security Rabbithole podcast, Brandon Dunlap is back for his second show. Following up on Episode 158 where we discussed outsourced security, this time around we talk through the next iteration of what "Managed Security" and outsourcing means to security.

You're not going to want to miss this episode!

As always, hit up our hashtag on Twitter at #DtSR and you can find Brandon on Twitter as well at @bsdunlap if you want to talk to him directly.

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30 Nov 2020DtSR Episode 423 - TPA Malware and Other Bad Things00:45:40

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This week, virtually live from Enfuse 2020 we've invited Grayson Milbourne, who is the Director of Security Intelligence at OpenText (formerly Carbonite/Webroot), to the show to talk about his work, malware, and the ever-evolving battle between good and evil'ish.

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18 Nov 2013DtR Episode 67 - NewsCast for November 18th, 201300:29:14

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I'm back! Maybe a little sleep-deprived and a tad grumpier than usual, but back to talk news!

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01 Sep 2015DtSR MicroCast 08 - Conference Engagement00:08:43

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In this MicroCast, live from HTCIA Conference 2015 in Orlando, FL, Michael and I quickly set the stage for a conversation on conference speaker/attendee engagement. 

[Raf] One of my biggest pet peeves as a speaker is getting a room-full of people who watch (and listen) me speak, wait for me to finish, and leave when I'm done.

[Michael] As an attendee, you need to know what you "do" and what you're looking for from the conference.

 

--> Here's the link to the article Michael mentions: http://paulsohn.org/how-to-connect-with-anyone-you-just-met-with-5-questions/

 

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24 May 2022DtSR Episode 502 - Why Can't Gov Figure Out Supplier Security00:53:06

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CMMC may be something you know nothing of, but if you're a government contractor, or work with government contractors of the DIB - you're probaby alll too familiar.

For some, it's hell. For the rest, it's mostly insane. Jacob joins Rafal & James to educate us, and give us the reality of this set of standards.

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07 Apr 2020DtSR Episode 389 - Leading Cyber Security in Academia00:37:14

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This week, DtSR dives into security leadership with an academic twist. We have the pleasure of hosting Robert Turner, the CISO of the University of Wisconsin, Madison.

This episode was recorded March 13th, 2020 right as the University and other institutions across the country and the world started their efforts to social distance and work from home due to the Corona Virus (Covid-19) pandemic.

Special thanks to Bob for taking the time out of his busy day, and crazy schedule given the times, to give us insights on his strategy, challenges, and successes!

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06 Feb 2012Down the Rabbithole - Episode 10 - "The real Gene Kim" on DevOps, KPIs & high performance IT00:39:58

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World-renowned author, researcher, speaker and founder of legendary TripWire joins me semi-live from LASCON in Austin, Texas to talk about his current project(s) [The DevOps Cookbook, and When IT Fails: A Novel], and his book Visible Ops and how this can all be applied to security in today's tough business climate.  Gene and I discuss what in the DNA of well-performing (or "agile") IT organizations, based on Gene's research and experience, enables them to not only perform better, but also serve the business faster.  These high-performing organizations all have things in common, and you may be shocked to hear it's not heaps of money, or resources, or "powerful" CISOs.  The experience was a pleasure and I guarantee you'll learn something from this podcast, and I highly encourage you to add Gene's books as a staple of your career-building library.

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  • "The real" Gene Kim - I am working on my third and fourth books, "When IT Fails: The Novel" and "The DevOps Cookbook," scheduled to be published in June 2012. Both are the culmination of over 13 years of researching both high-performing and low-performing IT organizations, as well as benchmarking over 1500 IT organizations to help inform what behaviors simultaneously advance business and information security objectives.  LinkedIn profile, just in case you have never had the pleasure - http://realgenekim.me.

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07 Dec 2015DtSR Episode 172 - The Truth on Cyber Insurance00:45:19

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Thanks for joining us! This is a very important episode with true experts on the topic of cyber insurance. I was lucky enough to get an attorney and a VP of an insurance firm who specialize in the topic and their depth of knowledge and candor may shock you.

The net is that cyber insurance is a positive for our industry.

 

In this episode..

 

  • Eran says that if you don’t do good security, the courts will frown down upon that
  • Keith tells us why insurance covers security, but it does not cover negligence
  • We start back on the discussion on the importance of knowing your critical assets
  • Keith discusses why the insurance market is essentially a mirror of your program
  • Eran talks about how his team dissect and investigate breaches to improve understanding
  • Keith and Eran discuss how the process of buying cyber insurance can actually lead to improved security

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24 May 2016DtSR Episode 195 - NewsCast for May 24th 201600:54:48

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This week the gang's all here to talk about some news happenings. Michael, James and I talk through some of the stories we've been tracking.

Have something you've been reading and want to talk about? Hit us on Twitter with hashtag #DtSR and suggest a topic/story for the next NewsCast!

 

Tennessee Amends Breach Notification Statute

FFIEC’s New Mobile Security Guidance: An Assessment

Software “glitch” kills Formula1 car mid-race

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13 Dec 2022DtSR Episode 530 - The Bold and the Invasive00:47:32

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Karim Hijazi joins Rafal & James this week on the podcast to talk about some interesting trends and developments in the world of bad actors. It's an interesting update including some things I wasn't expecting to hear about how threat actors "hit back at" incident responders and threat hunters. This is a good conversation about the current threat landscape with an eye on the Russian hackers out there, and pretty good listening for anyone who wants an added dose of situational awareness.

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11 Feb 2020DtSR Episode 382 - Jeremiah Grossman Doing the Basics00:42:29

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This week on DtSR Podcast, a long-awaited guest joins us. That's right, the one and only Jeremiah Grossman joins us live from a tropical paradise, and you need to hear his message.

On this show we cover history, "the basics", and the necessity to know what your security attack surface looks like. It's perhaps one of the least sexy topics ever - but if you ignore it, you're pretty much screwed.

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02 Nov 2018DtSR Episode 320 - Specializing in Forensics00:40:50

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This week, James Habben joins me in studio for what turns out to be an introspective walk through the evolving world of forensics.

 

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  • James gives us some background on how he got where he is
  • We talk through some nostalgia
  • James answers the "Is APT trying to get me" question, sort of
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01 Jun 2015DtSR Episode 145 - NewsCast for June 1st, 201500:49:15

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07 Nov 2017DtSR Episode 269 - Industrial Internet of Things (IIOT)00:48:14

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This week, we have a repeat guess with Robert M. Lee joining our show to talk about the Industrial Internet of Things. Rob's just finished a conference his company, Dragos, Inc, just started to educate and help increase awareness and research for the Industrial Internet of Things.

Whether you think you know what the IIOT is, or whether you can admit to yourself you need to be know more - this podcast will have it all.

We also reference a podcast with Dr. Timothy Chou (link: DtSR Episode 250 - Deconstructing the Internet of Things ). If you haven't read his book, "Precision" (link: https://www.amazon.com/Precision-Principles-Practices-Solutions-Internet/dp/1329843568 ) it's the basis for a lot of this discussion.

 

Thanks to Rob again for being on the show!

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27 Jun 2017DtSR Episode 251 - General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR)00:50:41

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This week on Down the Security Rabbithole Episode 251 (wow, can you believe we've published 251 full episodes?!) James and I host a roundtable of privacy and data protection experts and talk about the looming EU regulation known affectionately as GDPR.

The Global Data Protection Regulation (GDPR for short) impacts all companies that either do business with EU citizens, or operate in the EU. Basically, everyone. It's a huge deal and there really isn't a "wait and see" option.

Listen in, and if you have feedback provide it!

 

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25 Jul 2018DtSR Episode 306 - Balancing Family and Career00:46:34

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This week, we tackle a topic that should not have taken 306 episodes to get to - balancing family and work while growing a career in Information Security. Britney hits the high points with us, and takes us down the road of what it's like being a mother and security leader - as we explore the topic for everyone who is in our field.

Highlights from this week's show include:

  • Who does this apply to?
  • Are you being asked to choose?
  • Becoming adaptive
  • When you should bend and when you should concede
  • Creating your own space
  • Confidence
  • Benefits of Blending

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07 Sep 2021DtSR Episode 463 - TPA Human Security Engineering00:39:22

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This week our friend Ira Winkler joins Rafal & James to talk about the human element in cyber security. Ira, like us, absolutely loathes the phrase "stupid user" - so you'll want to hear what he's working on, and his comments on the space.

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17 Jul 2018DtSR Episode 305 - Security for the Mid-market00:42:48

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Do you work at a company that's too big to be "small business" but too small to be "large enterprise"? You're probably in that place known as the "mid-market". Many of the large vendors don't pay attention to you, and yet you still have all of the same problems big companies do - just without all the budget. What do you do? Listen to this episode of DtSR and find out what we think.

 

Highlights from this week's show include...

  1. Addressing the "tool" or "staff" conundrum
  2. Who's manning all those dashboards? Staff to dashboard ratio
  3. How do you prioritize, when you can't multi-thread?
  4. Giving up isn't an option, so what do you do?

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18 Dec 2012DtR Episode 26 - Guest: Brad Arkin of Adobe - Software Security Under Pressure00:39:51

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This episode is special because it's been a long-time-in-the-making interview with Brad Arkin of Adobe. This is the organization that many of the hacker community like to hate, and pick on - without realizing the monumental task of securing the software that Brad's team is responsible for. Brad's official title at Adobe is Engineering Senior Director but in real life one of the responsibilities his team is tasked with is doing product security for products like Adobe Flash and Reader ... Brad's take on software security and how he got the bug problem under control at Adobe is worth a listen!

Guest

Brad Arkin - Engineering Senior Director at Adobe - Brad has a long history of being involved in the Information Security world, particularly software security and has held many interesting roles from Cigital, to a technical director at @Stake, to working his way through Adobe since 2008. Brad can be found on LinkedIn, here: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/brad-arkin/1/2a8/4.

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04 Feb 2020DtSR Episode 381 - 5G Security Implications00:39:04

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Welcome friends and fans!

This week we go down the rabbithole with Russell Mohr of MobileIron as we talk about the security implications for 5G. The new standard unleashed upon the American consumer (but more importantly on the commercial market) is changing mobile communication and connectedness.

About the guest...

Russell Mohr is an expert in 5G and mobile technology, with a wide breadth of expertise in other areas as well. Apparently during the early part of the interview, he was attacked by a dog that tried to eat him (I may be guessing, but that's what it sounded like).

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/russmohr/

Big thanks to Becca Chambers for setting this up, and lining up another future guest too!

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26 Oct 2015DtSR Episode 166 - Cyber Security From Board Room to White House00:24:09

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In this episode...

  • Raf sits down with Howard Shmidt to talk about Cyber Security from the public to private sectors and everything in between.
  • Howard & Raf talk through challenges of cyber security in the board room
  • Howard gives us some of the challenges that government faces, from his experience
  • Don't miss this episode!

 

Guest

  • Howard A. Schmidt ( @HowardAS ) - Former Supervisory Special Agent,Director of Computer Crime and Information Warfare, AF OSI, Former CSO Microsoft Corp. Former Chairman of White House Critical Infrastructure Protection Board, VP, CISO eBay Inc. Special Agent, US Army CID (Reserves). Law Enforcement Officer Chandler Police Department, AZ

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