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23 Aug 2021
Q & A Episode #4 ft. Drew Magid (Imagine Dragons, Grouplove, Florida Georgia Line)
00:54:56
Everyone welcome our first Q & A with a guest host! Drew Magid - another long-time friend. We toured back in 20...11/13 together. Since touring together Drew has stepped it up a notch. He started interning, then did Merch, Production Coordinated, and eventually made his way up to a Tour Manager. Nowadays he is off the road and a manager at Big Loud. This episode was supposed to be Drew and me answering everyone's questions… and we eventually did. However the first half or so we just go over Drew’s journey in the music industry. I think his journey has some great lessons and examples of how working hard pays off. What the heck is it like Tour Managing an artist as big as Imagine Dragons? (I’ll give you a clue it doesn't involve a lot of sleep)
Anyway, I don’t know what to call this episode. But it was a lot of fun and I hope you enjoy it too. Maybe we start just doing episodes on people’s origin stories - who knows! As always let us know what you think in the reviews! See you next week!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to work your way up to managing a band
• The power of a positive mindset
• How Drew tours with international bands/artists
• How stressful being away on the road can be
(00:00) Intro
(01:37) Patreon
(02:30) Drew gets on the bus
(03:52) How Drew got to where he is today
(07:44) When Drew went on the road
(15:40) Drew maintaining his friendship over his career
(17:35) Rafting Adventure
(18:56) Selling merch on tour
(21:02) Transition from merch to tour managing
(22:46) Tour managing for Imagine Dragons
(28:24) Drew being a manager
(31:32) How to remember names better
(34:15) Knowing the right person for the job
(37:56) International bands and photographers
(39:36) How to deal with a bad client
(45:19) Being in a relationship on tour
(48:35) Sneaking into shows
(52:22) Wrap up notes
(52:23) Shower Shoes
What It’s like Touring During COVID ft Daniel Nickleski (Kygo, Sound Works)
01:05:37
This week we have my good friend Daniel Nickleski on the podcast. Daniel owns and operates Sound Works out of Illinois and currently tours with Kygo. Daniel and I set off with the intention to talk about how COVID has affected the music industry - and we did do that, a little bit. But to be honest we mostly got lost in the sauce and just started talking about touring in general and tossed in some COVID here and there - and eventually dug up some embarrassing tour stories. All in all I think it’s a very well-balanced and fun episode. As always - I hope you enjoy it as much as I do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Daniel went from touring for 10 years with All Time Low to being a weekend warrior with Kygo
• About an average day of a touring DJ crew
• How Daniel juggles running Sound Works and touring
• The importance of being a good hang on tour
(00:00) Intro
(03:16) Daniel gets on the bus
(04:31) Dan’s early years in music
(07:11) How Dan got started in the music industry
(12:40) Taking a step back from touring
(21:18) Getting back on the road with Kygo
(30:26) What a workday with Kygo is like
(41:11) Touring during Covid
(52:11) What makes a good crew member
(54:22) Stories from the road
(01:01:02) Wrap up notes
(01:04:29) Shower Shoes
Touring for a Living ft. Andrew Weiss (Paramore, Twenty One Pilots, Creed)
00:58:56
This week on the podcast let's welcome Andrew Weiss who is the tour manager and production manager. Andrew has toured with artists such as Paramore, Twenty One Pilots, and Creed. Andrew has been in the touring game for a long time and has accumulated a wealth of knowledge you can only get from living the experiences. He really gets to the nuts and bolts of what it takes to make a career out of this.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How the touring industry has changed over the time
• What Andrew considered the right attitude to have when you first start touring
• How money and payments are negotiated before taking on a tour
• Andrew’s thoughts of constantly learning and improving your skills on the road
(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Patreon
(04:31) Andrew gets on the bus
(06:01) How Adam and Andre met
(10:01) How Andrew got started in the touring industry
(13:03) The most important part to learn to be on the road
(16:58) How touring has changed since Andrew started
(20:27) Why are tour managing and tour producing so similar
(25:21) Staying on top of your job requirements
(34:41) What causes success and failure on the road?
(36:32) How to ask for a raise
(42:37) Why you don't discuss business with the artist
(47:51) What Andrew looks into before taking a tour
(51:43) Maintaining a home and tour lifestyle
(56:31) Wrap up notes
(57:14) Shower Shoes
Getting on the road is one thing. Getting paid to tour is a whole different thing. In this episode, we talk about what your life might look like before going on the road. Then, of course, we will answer everyone's favorite question, "But how much can I get paid to tour?". There is a lot of mystery surrounding that question, and it’s difficult to pinpoint precisely why. But, let’s talk about - let’s learn together. We want you to tour - and of course, get paid to do it!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Everything you need to know before your first tour
• How to negotiate your rate
• What/ how much you should get paid to tour
(00:00) Intro
(4:20) Overview
(7:09) How to get your first tour
(11:09) Grinding it out
(12:48) How to handle management
(17:26) What to ask before you hit the road
(24:01) Let’s talk money
((26:07) What affects how much money you make
(32:47) Getting started and being a good hang
(37:18) Van tours
(41:50) Bus tours
(52:05) DJs and country weekend tours
(54:15) Retainers
(57:19) Wrap up
Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast
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Taking Steps in a Positive Direction ft. Johnny Minardi (Elektra Music Group)
00:56:40
Starting 2022 off with a banger! So happy to have the legend that is Johnny Minardi on the podcast. Johnny is the VP of A&R at Elektra records and one of the most inspiring people I have had the pleasure of speaking with. Through consistently finding the right path Johnny has created a well-rounded and balanced life with a great support network. This setup allows him to crush goals, inspire his peers, and teach the next generation on the way. I think we can all agree this is definitely something we are all working towards in our own lives and careers. Thank you for your knowledge Johnny, we collectively appreciate you!
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Book Recommendations
Essentialism
Almanac of Naval Ravikant
The One Thing
Good to Great
Lynch Pin
Drinking With Strangers
Sell Out
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Johnny went from working on street teams in Chicago to being the VP of A&R for Elektra Music Group
• How taking chances and rolling with the flow can create positive results
• That it is so important to have a positive mindset when meeting people
• What systems Johnny has in place to have a good support system around him
(00:00) Intro
(03:17) Johnny gets on the bus
(04:30) What does a VP of A&R do?
(08:02) Working within subsidiary labels
(09:52) When Johnny and Adam first met
(10:45) Being hired on to work at Fueled By Ramen
(15:06) How Johnny got started in the music industry
(17:49) The first goal, working in the industry
(26:21) From LLR Records to working at Fueled By Ramen
(33:48) Being let go by Fueled By Ramen, working at Equal Vision, then back to Fueled By Ramen
(39:48) Going into situations with the right mindset
(43:02) Building a solid support system around you
(48:00) Top three nu-metal artist
(49:08) How Johnny finds new music and artist
(51:18) Top book of 2021 and 2022
(52:39) Failing a goal is okay
(55:27) Wrap up notes
(55:40) Shower Shoes
What Does a Music Manger Do? ft. Mike Mowery (Ice Nine Kills)
00:57:22
This week we welcome long-time friend and amazing music manager Mike Mowery to the podcast. Mike Mowery has managed a variety of different artists over his career, however these days he spends the majority of his time working with Ice Nine Kills. Mike is very well-spoken… wait a manager, well-spoken? No way! But really, I was very impressed with everything he had to say. Very concise, straight to the point - and honest. I love how deeply he has thought about all the topics we discussed and I could tell he truly cares about his job and spends his life trying to take it to another level. Thank you Mike! Enjoy my friends.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What a manager does in the music world
• How Mike went from being in a small punk band to managing notable bands
• How a manager and band work together to grow the bands brand
• That managers alone can not make an artist larger than they already are
(00:00) Intro
(02:19) Patreon
(03:17) Mike gets on the bus
(06:28) How Mike became a manager
(12:35) What does a manager do?
(17:37) When does an artist bring on a manager
(19:48) Skills needed to be a manager
(26:18) An average day for a manager
(34:30) How a manager goes about working with different styles of bands
(37:45)
The type of decisions managers help artists make
(45:05) What the pay structure is like for a manager
(51:13) Why some managers don't have contracts with their artist
(56:05) Wrap up notes
(56:08) Shower Shoes
This week we have Matt Heafy of Trivium on the podcast. Matt Heafy is a badass. He has been in Trivium for more than half his life, is an amazing father - and runs a twitch channel while touring. Basically, he does it all, and it’s rad to hear not only how he does it - but why he does it. We did this live on his twitch channel, so if you caught us then - rad - if not - hope you enjoy!!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Keeping in touch with the local culture through food
• Running a twitch channel while playing shows
• Learning to be an optimistic spirit on tour
(00:00) Intro
(2:28) Matthew gets on the bus
(2:39) Catching up
(3:23) Growing pains of smaller musicians
(7:07) Roughest tour
(7:58) Reflecting when everyone started playing music
(12:43) Matthew's Twitch origin
(20:14) Having kids while being a musician
(24:59) How technology makes age irrelevant
(30:17) Staying in shape both mentally and physically
(35:57) Discussing the size/ growth of Trivium
(37:54) Working together and not accepting failure
(45:17) The impact of a good touring crew
(49:02) How to find the best place to eat while on tour
(51:45) What is your favorite food experience?
(58:05) Wrap up notes
(58:19) Shower Shoes
What Does A Production Manager Do On Tour? ft. Matthew Flyzik (Kygo)
01:05:55
Mattew Flyzik is a combo of a Tour Manager/ Production Manager. Not many people can pull this off, but Flyzik might not even be human for all we know. The man is a machine. He spends most of his time on the road with Kygo these days. When Neil and I first met Matthew, he was on tour with All Time Low. I look up to him a lot. He fully embodies everything I want to be when I tour. He works hard and gets his job done while treating others with the respect they deserve. I have never met someone as good as him - and I am happy we get to finish this section off with someone as talented as himself.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Matthew’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a production manager on the road
• The importance of
• Tips for being a successful production manager
(0:00
) Intro
(3:00) Matthew enters the bus
(8:22) Start to touring
(12:08) Being active in your local scene
(17:33) Be the person you want to deal with on the road
(21:58) Skills necessary to be successful
(27:25) Daily responsibilities
(29:10) What’s the difference between production and tour management?
(33:09) Walkthrough of an average day
(36:04) How to work with local crew
(38:07) Security risks
(39:30) Setting up for the show
(42:02) Soundcheck and crew appreciation
(49:20) Doors and showtime
(56:49) Loadout and aftershow
(58:16) Tour stories
(1:04:46) Wrap up
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Interview with Ryan Seaman of I Don't Know How But They Found Me
00:46:27
This week we have the wonderful Ryan Seaman. Drummer of I Don't Know How But They Found Me and all-around good guy. Ryan talks with us about his strategies of navigating the music industry as a drummer and how he has gotten to the place he is today. We both knew Ryan was a hard worker - but we never really knew to what extent. Thank you again Ryan for joining us this week - make sure to hit him up and say thanks!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Ryan‘s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a for-hire drummer on the road
• The importance of networking to find work
• Tips for managing your dreams alongside getting a paycheck
(0:00) Intro
(2:44) Ryan gets on the bus
(3:29) How Ryan knows Adam and Neil
(4:00) Knowing everyone on tour
(4:27) Ryan's career in the music industry
(13:12) Releasing music during the pandemic
(15:43) Jumping from camp to camp successfully
(19:06) Relearning your songs
(21:32) Warped Tour Memories
(23:43) Staying employed v staying available
(24:53) Billie Eilish Moment
(32:20) Putting in what you take out
(36:21) Being an unknown drummer
(37:47) Utah and Salt Lake City
(42:51) Wrap up
Ten Years Touring Together ft. Sam Harris of X Ambassadors and Gabe McNatt
00:56:19
Sam is the lead vocalist of X Ambassadors and Gabe is their long-time tour manager of 10+ years. Sam talks with us about how X Ambassadors is constantly striving to fine-tune their shows while Gabe simultaneously progresses his Tour Managing skills to match the band's growth. Any touring team that can stay together for 10+ years is doing it the right way, thanks for sharing your stories and advice this week - looking forward to meeting you both in real life one day.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• The importance of good communication between an artist and their tour manager
• How Images Dragon’s Dan Reynolds discovered X Ambassadors
• How a polar vortex almost stranded the X Ambassadors’ team
• Why Gabe was the right tour manager to grow along with X Ambassadors
(00:00) Intro
(01:52) Patreon
(03:13) Sam and Gabe get on the bus
(04:51) Sam and Gabe start working with each other
(07:21) Leveling up with success
(11:25) X Ambassadors getting their first bus
(12:56) Litost song release
(16:05) Operating with a small team
(18:13) Gabe’s plan when joining the X Ambassador team
(23:11) The strive for perfection
(26:37) How Gabe was able to keep up in skill level as the band grew
(29:06) Communication is key between artist and crew
(31:58) The only times Gabe has “broke”
(35:40) Polar vortex
(39:03) Touring during COVID
(42:10) Rules on the bus
(49:53) Wrap up notes
(50:37) Shower Shoes
What Does a Music Publicist Do? ft. Katy Cooper (Sum 41, Papa Roach, Lauren Sanderson)
01:03:04
This week we welcome Katy Cooper to the podcast! Katy is an accomplished publicist for Big Picture Media. She has a massive list of artists she works with such as Sum 41, Papa Roach, and Lauren Sanderson. She’s incredible at connecting with people and artists - she teaches us how to network. Thank you Katy for your time and for sharing your knowledge.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What a publicist does in the music industry
• How to properly reach out to a publicist
• The importance of a publicists
• How to navigate the music industry as a publicist
(00:00) Intro
(03:07) Patreon
(04:04) Katy gets on the bus
(04:56) How Katy got involved in the music industry
(09:12) What it takes to be a good publicist
(10:44) What does a publicist do
(14:00) How a publicist works with an artist
(17:47) Skills needed to be a publicist
(21:12) An average day as a publicist
(24:46) Being a pro at taking rejection
(28:03) The correct way to reach out to a publicist
(29:18) The proper way to email a request
(33:26) Ticket buys and how tickets are given out
(37:42) Creating and maintaining relationships
(39:52) What a publicist does at a show
(42:24) Moments that helped Katy learn
(43:51) Being a woman in the music industry
(50:55) Size matters for a publication
(52:51) Major mistakes to avoid when talking to a publicist
(54:58) Wrap up notes
(55:06) Shower Shoes
This week we are doing something a little bit different. We are discussing a current event. Please welcome back Sully Sullivan from Episode 28. Sully was nice enough to sit down and explain to me what happened at Travis Scott's Astroworld fest. I had been seeing a lot of information floating around online and I wanted some solid answers from someone who was well informed on what goes into putting on a festival. Our goal is to not point any fingers, and place any blame on any one party. But rather just learn how we can all do better in the future. I hope you enjoy this conversation as much as I did. Sending love to the lives that were lost at the event. I feel terrible this happened to them.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What happened at Astroworld
• How to keep yourself safe at a festival or show
• About the techniques security uses at shows to keep the crowd under control
• What the possible future of shows will look like
(00:00) Intro
(02:55) Patreon
(04:27) Sully gets on the bus
(06:58) Having security ready way before doors
(10:06) What security looks like today compared to the past
(17:05) Shows needing to take control
(19:12) How security controls rough crowds
(21:54) How to be safe at a concert or festival
(32:16) What has to happen for a show to be stopped
(49:02)
Artist responsobiltiy
(01:01:48) Concert safety need to be improve
(01:03:20) Wrap up notes
Morgan Freed and T.J. Petracca of Emo Nite Interview
00:51:26
Everyone welcome the wonderful team behind your favorite party - Emo Nite. If you haven’t been to Emo Nite yet, I highly recommend it. Morgan & T.J. put their passion and lives into this project and it shows. Was a pleasure to talk with them on how they started working together, became friends and what their future goals are for Emo Nite. If you are going to Coachella make sure to catch their set. Otherwise chances are - Emo Nite is in a city near you sometime soon. I look forward to the next time I get to hang out with these humans.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What makes Emo Nite stand out from other parties
• How Morgan and T.J. create an ever-evolving party
• The steady growth of Emo Nite from small venues to performing at Coachella
• Why emo music is coming back in popularity
(00:00) Intro
(04:04) Patreon
(05:21) T.J. and Morgan get on the bus
(08:12) How T.J. and Morgan got into emo music
(16:12) Why music from our teens sticks with us
(24:08) How Morgan and T.J. met
(26:57) Working together
(32:34) Convincing musicians to partake in Emo Nite early on
(34:17) Working directly with artists
(39:35) Relating to the artist that performs at Emo Nite
(40:38) Keeping Emo Nite Focused
(45:23) How T.J. and Morgan measure success
(50:06) Wrap up notes
Danny Kurily Interview – Finding Your Path to Touring with a Band
00:55:56
Everyone welcome the awesome Danny Kurily to the podcast! Like most guests, Danny is a good friend - but even more importantly, a true badass. I have always admired how Danny has navigated the music industry and his life in general. It was a true pleasure to sit down and learn from him. We toured together with All Time Low a few times about 10 years ago, and the next thing I know he is living in LA as a personal assistant. Fast forward a few years he is running VIP for Demi Lovato. I could barely keep up with him and I wanted to know more. So this week we sat down, and had a good chat about it all. Enjoy!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• About the range of jobs Danny took during his time touring
• Ways to translate your touring skills to other jobs
• How Danny went from touring with top artists to running a successful house management company
• When touring isn’t sparking interest any longer
(00:00) Intro
(02:18) Patreon
(03:10) Danny gets on the bus
(06:43) What life was like before touring
(10:27) Going from a day job to a tour job
(12:14) Touring expectations at the beginning
(16:14) Staying up to date with your skills
(18:49) Other jobs Danny had on the road
(24:53) Skills Danny took from his day job to touring
(28:25) When the shininess of tour went away for Danny
(30:38) The hardest part of leaving a tour
(35:05) What made Danny not want to tour any longer
(39:16) Red flags that see when you need to get off the road
(42:02) Danny's starting DK Home Management
(49:55) Wrap up notes
(54:37) Shower Shoes
This week is a special episode - we say goodbye to the best co-host ever - Neil. We did over half a year of podcasting together. It was amazing, we learned more Than I could have ever dreamed up and of course, I am bummed
To see him go. Catch up with Neil today and learn about what he will be up to. Of course, if you are in Orlando make sure to check out his restaurant Winter Biscuit Co. we will be back with our regular interviews next week
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Learn what Neil is up to next
• What happens if you're injured while touring
• When are tour members hired for a tour
(00:00) Intro
(3:13) When are tour members hired for a tour?
(6:29) When do you do laundry on tour?
(10:16) Storage options for photographers
(11:19) What happens if you're injured while touring?
(12:02) South America story
(19:09) Neil's goals when he started the podcast
(26:01) What's coming up for Neil
(29:09) Poem for Neil
(34:15) Shower Shoes
Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast
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Neil Westfall - Host
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Adam Elmakias - Host
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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey
17 Oct 2020
Welcome to Don't Shit On The Bus with Adam Elmakias & Neil Westfall
00:36:19
Why can't I shit on the bus? You ask. We know it may come as a surprise to you - but believe it or not, you, 100% - can't shit on the bus. It's the number one rule when you live on a tour bus. This is the first of many rules we will share with you on this podcast. But it is more than just a rule - it's a mindset. Come hang out with us for a little less than an hour. We promise you it'll be a good time - and hey, you might learn a thing or two. At least, that is our goal.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Why you can't shit on the bus
• How networking plays a massive role in the music industry
• The goals of our podcast
• Who the hell we are
(00:00) Intro
(03:29) What does Don’t Shit on The Bus mean?
(08:11) Why did we make this podcast?
(12:01) Adam and Neil’s start to touring
(14:47) How we met each other
(17:27) The importance of networking
(20:41) Trust us, we’re professionals
(24:32) Let us be your spirit guides
(25:36) Goals of the podcast
(33:04) Wrap it up
Don't Shit On The Bus Podcast
► Website: http://www.dontshitonthebus.com
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Welcome to Don't Shit On The Bus - hosted by Neil Westfall of A Day To Remember and Adam Elmakias, touring music photographer. Our goal is to educate, entertain, and inspire people in the touring music industry. We believe that it’s not just what you do on tour - but how you do it - that truly matters. We will bring you interviews and conversations with some of the best musicians & crew this industry has to offer. We ask the questions that musicians (Neil) and crew (Adam) want to know the answers to. The good stuff. So throw your bag in the bay, get on the bus, and please whatever you do… don’t shit on the bus
28 Jun 2022
Introducing Entourage Pro - A Verified Global Crew Network
01:20:59
Everyone please welcome the founders of Entourage Pro James and Joel. Entourage Pro is at its very core - a verified private global crew network. I was very excited when I learned about this site and I feel deeply that this is exactly what the music industry needs. James and Joel answer all of my questions, provide some insight on how they made this site, and cover how you can sign up and create an account. Sign up!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What is Entourage Pro
• Why did Joel and James create Entourage Pro for
• How to create and edit an account on Entourage Pro
• Why the music industry operates on a word-of-mouth system for getting gigs
(00:00) Intro
(02:22) Patreon
(03:18) Joel and James get on the bus
(04:06) What Joel and James do in the music industry
(14:28) Why the music industry was such a word-of-mouth industry?
(19:50) What is Entourage Pro?
(24:33) Pitfalls Joel and James avoided when creating Entourage Pro
(29:38) Who gets hired on Entourage Pro and who does the hiring
(40:07) Convincing people to switch over to Entourage Pro
(50:42) Going on and using Entourage Pro
(01:12:56) Editability on the site
(01:17:02) How it felt to launch the Entourage Pro
(01:18:47) Wrap up notes
This week we have my favorite combo - an artist and one of their crew members. However, it’s not just any artist - it’s Yungblud! And it’s not just any crew member - it’s photographer Tom Pallant. They are friends and partners that work *with* each other - not for each other. Being a photographer myself, I have always dreamed of having this kind of relationship while working for artists. I have had it a few times in my career - but honestly, they take it to a whole other level, and it was nothing short of impressive hearing how well they vibe, learn, and grow together. Thank you so much for Yunglbud and Tom for taking time out of their busy lives to share irreplaceable information with us.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What it takes to work together and create art
• How visuals play an integral role in bringing Yungblud to life
• What doesn’t Tom photograph?
• The photograph that inspired Yungblud’s music
(00:00) Intro
(03:14) Yungblud and Tom get on the bus
(03:30) Stuck in the states
(05:32) How Yungblud and Tom met
(08:48) Tom going on his first festival run with Yungblud
(10:18) Why Tom is Yungblud's photographer
(21:09) Tom is recognized as an important part of the Yungblud brand
(24:34) What the next Yungblud album will be like
(27:02) Yungblud and Tom's creative process
(29:55) The importance of always having a photographer with you
(33:05) The limits of documenting Yungblud
(37:31) How Tom brings the fans in closer with his photography
(40:13) How it feels to have a voice in the world as Yungblud
(41:42) Eating shrimp tails?
(43:31) Yungblud and Tom influence one another
(45:50) When did Yungblud and Tom really first meet?
(47:43) Shower Shoes
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Yungblud - Guest
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Tom Pallant - Guest
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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey
09 Mar 2021
What Does A Video Operator Do On Tour? ft. Mario Adato (Skrillex, Dillon Francis, Thomas Rhett)
01:40:42
Mario has spent years on the road perfect the art of being a Video Operator. Most well know for his work with Skrillex - however, he has also worked with Dillion Francis & Thomas Rhett. If you have ever wondered who fills all those screens with mesmerizing visuals that effortlessly match the music’s beat - it's this guy. His work ethic, values, and commitment to continually bettering himself show through in his work. I am usually one of the biggest nerds in the room - but Mario puts me to shame. Anyway, we hope you learn as much as we did this week! Have fun.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Mario’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a video operator on the road
• The importance of faking it until you make it
• Tips for being a successful video operator
(0:00) Intro
(6:03) Mario gets on the bus
(11:02) Mario’s start to touring
(14:16) School isn’t for everybody
(20:25) Transitioning from school to real world
(26:49) Skills necessary to be a video operator
(34:43) Daily responsibilities on tour
(43:00) The importance of being humble
(50:18) VO vs VJ
(55:23 ) Average day on tour
(1:05:23) What does soundcheck look like for a video operator?
(1:09:18) Showtime!
(1:14:27) Aftershow and knowing when to take criticism
(1:22:28) Touring with Skrillex
(1:32:55) Tips and tricks for touring
(1:39:12) Wrap up
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What Does A Tour Photographer Do On Tour? ft. Ashley Osborn (Bring Me The Horizon & Jessie J)
01:12:42
Music Photographer Ashley Osborn joins us this week to talk about what it takes to be a Tour Photographer. Tour Photography is a whole different world than any other job on the road. You are working very closely and creatively with the artist - which is not always the case when you are on the road. Ashley has toured with All Time Low, Bring Me The Horizon, and Jessie J.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Ashley’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a tour photographer on the road
• The importance of using your time wisely
• Tips for being a successful tour photographer
(0:00) Intro
(3:10) Ashley gets on the bus
(10:10) Ashley’s start to touring
(19:12) College chat
(23:22) The importance of packing light
(26:07) Skills needed to be a great photographer
(33:02) Navigating the industry before you’re actually part of the industry
(47:47) Average day on the road
(55:13) Tour stories and respecting boundaries when touring with other genders
(1:01:52)Special guests All Time Low hop on the bus
(1:04:07) Adam’s daily routine
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Touring is fun, it's also challenging. Everyone knows the best part of touring - you get the travel the world with your friends and go to a concert every night. But there has to be a catch - right? Kind of. Join us this week as we talk through our experiences on the road and what we believe, and the pros and cons of touring.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Everything is more fun together
• Abbreviated home life
• Post-tour Loneliness
(00:00) Intro
(03:53) Overview of episode
(06:54) Touring mentality
(10:35) Pro: traveling
(19:36) Pro: friends
(23:51) Pro: building your skillset
(29:58) Pro: you’ll be a better roommate
(33:19) In conclusion, touring is awesome
(37:57) Con: traveling
(43:23) Con: life goes on without you at home
(45:55)Con: skills outside touring don’t get worked on
(48:25) Con: the comedown
(50:33) Wrap up
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Jason Richardson of All That Remains Interview – Navigating the Industry as a Musician
01:05:59
This week we have the amazing Jason Richardson on the podcast. Jason joined his first touring band while he was still in high school. He started off with All Shall Perish, then joined Born Of Osiris, next Chelsea Grin - and most recently has joined All That Remains. Jason also has an insane solo career - make sure you check him out on youtube. What I really like about Jason is how good he is at guitar. The man has turned his job into a science. I respect that, and admire his work ethic. Thank you for your time and knowledge Jason, I have learned a lot from you and look forward to learning more.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Jason has consistently progressed his career
• The qualities required of a guitar tech from the musician's point of view
• How Jason became the new member of All That Remains
• The differences between being a solo artist and a member of a band
(00:00) Intro
(02:51) Patreon
(04:31) Jason gets on the bus
(06:41) How Jason got into music
(12:56) Jason’s history with playing the guitar
(13:06) Touring at 17
(15:30) Moving forward after All Shall Perish
(18:25) Not feeling at home on the road
(20:45) Touring with Chelsea Grin
(24:23) Discussing Jason’s solo career
(31:52) What makes a good guitar tech
(35:54) Differences between a solo career and being in a band
(46:29) The influence Lindsey Stirling had on Jason’s solo career
(53:18) Learning a band's whole catalog
(55:32) Jason playing the guitar
(57:23) How Jason became a member of All That Remains
(01:02:26) Wrap up notes
(01:04:21) Shower Shoes
We took this week to celebrate our followers and respond to their questions from the first nine episodes of the Don’t Shit on the Bus podcast. Thank you so much to everyone who has supported us through this first part. If you have more questions you would like to ask - feel free to reach out. We are here to help.
(00:00) Intro
(4:32) Q1: How do you approach networking?
(7:37) Q2: What should you do if security gives you a hard time?
(11:13) Q3: How do you avoid being taken advantage of?
(14:55) Q4: Does being a fan interfere with working for an artist?
(20:01) Q5: How do you handle being left “on read”?
(26:05) Q6: What are your tips for getting into the local scene?
(33:36) Q7: How does international travel work as far as visas go?
(35:53) Q8: How do sick days work on tour?
(39:16) Q9: Do I need to go to college to tour?
(43:54) Q10: How do you handle the language barrier, specifically with security?
Adam’s questions
(47:41) Q1: Do you ever get a break as a music photographer?
(49:13) Q2: Can I shoot for the headliner even though I’m on tour with the opener?
(53:12) Q3: How do you balance doing video and photo on a tour?
(54:28) Q4: Can we talk about contracts?
Neil’s questions
(58:19) Q1: How do you “deal with” overly excited fans?
(1:05:00) Q2: What kind of contracts do you expect your crew to sign?
(1:07:34) Q3: How do you start touring as an artist?
Social Media questions
(1:10:48) Q1: Is touring as depressing as some make it out to be?
(1:13:27) Q2: How do you handle family/friends being backstage when it comes to things like catering?
(1:14:36) Q3: What are your tips for staying healthy? What is covered by the tour vs what do I have to pay for myself? How do you get paid?
(1:16:08) Q4: Has seeing the behind-the-scenes version of an artist changed the way you view them?
(1:18:16) Q5: Does age matter?
(1:20:00) Wrap up
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What Does A Guitar Tech Do On Tour? ft. Justin Trotta (blackbear, The Used, Asking Alexandria)
01:14:01
Justin Trotta is a long-time friend of ours and a very accomplished guitar tech. We sit down and talk to him about his journey from playing in local bands to eventually touring worldwide with artists such as The Used, Of Mice & Men, All That Remains, and Asking Alexandria. We also go over how he travels in a smart, efficient, and healthy way - an area we could all use a little help with. You can catch Justin on tour with blackbear whenever live music is returned to us. We hope you enjoy your friend Justin as much as we do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Justin’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a guitar tech on the road
• The importance of always checking your gear
• Tips for being a successful guitar tech on tour
(0:00) Intro
(4:39) Justin gets on the bus
(8:05) Justin’s start to touring
(12:35) Different types of guitarists and their rigs
(18:15) Learning new skills on the road and helping newbies
(20:31) The importance of helping each other out
(25:46) Skills needed to be a guitar tech
(31:01) Daily responsibilities on the road
(36:30) Travel smarter not harder
(38:39) Load-in and setup
(42:47) Soundcheck and bunk time
(48:48) Doors and preventative maintenance
(55:18) Showtime!
(1:00:32) Loadout and aftershow
(1:06:43) Maintaining a good relationship with your artist
(1:11:09) Wrap up notes
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What it Takes to be a Vegan Chef on Tour - ft. Mary Westfall (Ellie Goulding, Travis Barker, Jeremy Piven)
01:12:05
This week we are joined by Mary Westfall, one of the most accomplished personal Vegan Chefs in the music industry. Although she does not tour much anymore - we can partly blame Neil for that one. Together they have started a family and a restaurant, and a life in Orlando, Florida. Regardless Mary's story is still just as relevant. We are happy to have her on the show because we feel she is a great self-made success story. There are a lot of known jobs on the road - and some lesser-known. So if you like to cook, and you want to see the world - this might be the job for you. However, even if you do not want to cook - there are plenty of level-ups and stories packed into this episode.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Mary’s journey to becoming a personal vegan chef
• The daily work required to be a traveling chef
• The importance of being able to adapt on the road
• How Neil and Mary met on tour with Blink-182
(0:00) Intro
(6:00) Mary gets on the bus
(9:33) When do you need a personal chef on tour?
(16:24) Mary’s start to life on the road
(25:16) Fake it ‘till you make it and always say yes
(32:06) What does the day-to-day look like?
(38:29) What does the team look like for a personal chef?
(42:56) The crossover between music and cooking
(46:21) Skills needed to be successful
(52:55) You should buy Mary’s cookbook
(55:23) How Harry Met Sally? No, it’s How Mary Met Neil
(1:02:31) Pursuing love on the road
(1:10:03) Wrap up!
Vinny Mauro of Motionless In White Interview - Headlining The Show
00:53:08
Everyone welcome to the bus Vinny Mauro - the drummer for Motionless In White. Lovely to hear his progression as a drummer throughout the past ten years. I originally met Vinny on the road 8 years ago - catch him on The Trinity of Terror tour right now. LAN party sometime soon?
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Vinny’s first tour ever was with Motionless in White
• The evolution of Motionless and White’s careers from supporting acts to headlining tours
• Why Vinny was almost not a member of Motionless in White
• What Vinny had to overcome his low mental points
(00:00) Intro
(02:07) Patreon
(02:58) Vinny gets on the bus
(04:09) Video games
(09:54) How Vinny started touring with Motionless in White
(17:28) Expectations for the road
(24:13) What it is like being a support act
(26:25) Homelife while being away on tour
(29:53) Vinny becoming a full-time member of Motionless in White
(34:49) Low mental points
(37:24) Putting on a smile for a show
(41:14) Triple headlining tour
(47:24) What Vinny did during COVID
(51:36) Wrap up notes
(52:17) Shower Shoes
Interview with Paul Bradley - Founder/ CEO of Eventric & Master Tour
00:58:51
Paul Bradely is the Founder and Owner of Eventric, which is mostly known for their app Master Tour. It was nice to have Paul on and understand the inner workings of such an important part of the touring industry. Tours simply wouldn’t function today without the help of Master Tour. If you don’t know what Master Tour is, chances are you have not toured. Thanks again Paul, look forward to meeting you in real life.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Why Paul created Master Tour
• The early obstacles Master Tour had to overcome
• The difficulties for the company during COVID
• The new features Master Tour is rolling out
(00:00) Intro
(02:17) Patreon
(02:50) Paul gets on the bus
(03:08) The Creation of Master Tour
(04:48) Master Tour at the start
(11:52) Early issues with Master Tour
(13:32) Bringing together a team
(14:51) What drove Paul to create Master Tour
(20:14) The two sides of Master Tour
(24:18) Changes over time
(24:40) Making it through COVID
(27:39) Generating income in an app
(34:08) Preparing for post covid
(42:35) Upcoming features
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:48) Shower Shoes
Nick Martin is the guitarist and backup vocalist/screamer for the band Sleeping With Sirens. In today’s episode, we go over Nick’s love of coffee, what it’s like being a member of Sleeping With Sirens, and how Nick gauges his success as he’s traveled through this industry. Thank you so much for coming on the podcast Nick!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to measure success as an artist
• About joining Sleeping With Sirens
• The different roles within a band
• What it was like starting Charlie Royal Coffee
(00:00) Intro
(01:46) Patreon
(02:18) Nick gets on the bus
(09:57) Coffee Cupping
(15:34) Sleeping With Sirens’ new album
(18:24) Nick being in Sleeping with Sirens for 8 years
(21:43) How Nick compartmentalizes his life
(24:28) Fake ID story
(26:52) Staying young and healthy
(28:44) Nick's metric of success
(32:45) Is there an age cap for being in a band?
(41:01) The dynamics of being in Sleeping with Sirens
(43:36) Aveneged Sevenfold story
(47:39) How to deal with people making bad decisions
(48:47) Not molding to fit in with people
(54:36) Wrap up notes
(55:07) Shower Shoes
Interview with Johnny Christ of Avenged Sevenfold and the Drinks with Johnny Podcast
01:23:32
This week we welcome Johnny Christ of Avenged Sevenfold the podcast. Johnny is also the host of his podcast Drinks with Johnny. We spent an hour talking with Johnny about whatever the hell came to our mind. That's really all there is to it this week. Enjoy the conversation, we know we did.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Johnny Christ started his podcast
• Becoming a better interviewer
• Various stories Johnny Shares with us
• The importance of being tough on tour
(00:00) Intro
(04:23) Johnny gets on the bus
(07:42) Drinks with Johnny
(17:15) Being interviewed makes you a better interviewer
(20:14) The artist to artist relationship
(22:59) Recording a podcast in person
(25:44) The variety of podcasts today
(28:37) Taking time on your work
(31:16) Starting the Drinks with Johnny Podcast
(38:50) Johnny Christ’s heroes
(45:08) Neil Westfall’s baby
(49:40) Find a way to normalize
(53:03) Being tough on tour
(54:53) Thanksgiving story
(58:18) Strip club story
(1:03:40) Doing everything on the bus
(1:11:27) Wrap up notes
(1:12:18) Shower Shoes
(1:16:59) Discord
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Missing bus call is one of the quickest ways to lose your job on the road. Touring is all about teamwork. Join us as we briefly recap The Essentials (the first 10 Episodes) of Don't Shit On The Bus and set you up for what to expect from over the next episodes. The theme for these episodes overall is never missing bus call. No matter who you are and what job you have on the road - you still have to be on the bus for a bus call. So get on the bus, grab a drink, and let's have a good time together on Don't Shit On The Bus.
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Tour Check-in with Hannah Filbey (Greta Van Fleet)
01:04:53
We are having another tour check-in, lets's welcome on the bus, Hannah Filbey. Hannah is a production coordinator currently on the road with Greta Van Fleet and was kind enough, after a 20-hour travel day, to chat with us. Thank you so much for taking the time to not sleep and helping us learn more about your job Hannah.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• The difficulties of being a woman on the road
• How Hannah went from local catering to touring internationally with Greta Van Fleet
• What it’s like being on a headlining tour and a supporting act tour
• Which local jobs you can do get to gain the skills to be a production coordinator
(00:00) Intro
(01:58) Patreon
(02:27) Hannah gets on the bus
(02:34) How Adam met Hannah
(04:36) Events that Hannah has planned on tours
(07:30) Hannah touring with Gretta Van Fleet
(10:20) How Hannah went from Korn to Gretta Van Fleet
(15:28) South America tour
(16:15) Difference between a headliner tour and a supporting tour
(18:02) Knowing what needs to be done for a tour
(23:27) What Hannah to prep to do for the South American tour
(31:17) Catering stories
(33:07) What you need to do to become a production coordinator
(38:52) What a support band can and can't do on a tour
(45:29) Being a woman on tour
(54:08) What makes Hannah accept or decline a tour
(01:01:42) Wrap up notes
(01:04:07) Shower Shoes
Level Up Your Touring with Shane Told of Silverstein
01:06:29
Please welcome Shane Told to the bus! Shane is the lead singer of Silverstein and host of Lead Singer Syndrome Podcast. Shane is a special guest to Neil and me because he and his band played such a significant role in our careers. Hear about how we all met, some of the adventures we share, and random tips that come up through our conversation. We hope you enjoy this week as much as we did and always do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Shane took Adam on his first bus tour
• How A Day To Remember and Silverstein helped each other out
• Tip for touring
• Does Shane wear shower shoes?
Please welcome Shane Told to the bus! Shane is the lead singer of Silverstein and host of Lead Singer Syndrome Podcast. Shane is a special guest to Neil and me because he and his band played such a significant role in our careers. Hear about how we all met, some of the adventures we share, and random tips that come up through our conversation. We hope you enjoy this week as much as we did and always do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Shane took Adam on his first bus tour
• How A Day To Remember and Silverstein helped each other out
• Tip for touring
• Does Shane wear shower shoes?
(00:00) Intro
(01:29) Patreon
(02:51) Shane gets on the bus
(04:59) How everyone knows each other
(08:56) Repaying old favors
(14:04) Silverstein brought Adam out for his first tour
(18:26) Frat party tour adventure
(20:26) Different perspectives on tour
(21:59) Mexico story
(24:32) Picking up where you left off with tour friends
(27:14) Places all start looking the same
(32:19) Shane and the Lead Singer Syndrome Podcast
(35:07) Silverstein and self-care
(38:25) Being a part of a community
(44:59) How the music scene has changed from back in the day
(46:45) Reflection on how far we have all come in our careers together
(51:08) Tips for tour
(55:13) Alex Shelnutt story
(56:43) Weird rider items
(1:00:04) Shower shoes
(1:03:02) Wrap up notes
This week we did something a little different. We will be back to our normal schedule next week. My friend Crague hit me up and said “no one knows your story” - and as much as I feel like I have told it cumulatively throughout the podcast, he made a good point. We haven’t really devoted any solid time to it. And hey, if you are just showing up here to watch the podcast and don’t know anything about me. That is okay! If you want to know a bit about me - here it is. This episode is brought to you advertisement free by our Patreons!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Adam started photography
• To focus on doing what you love
• The importance of keeping your experiences fresh
• How to do whatever it takes to get on tour
(00:00) Intro
(01:24) How Adam and Connor met
(04:21) Patreon
(05:06) Adam gets on the bus
(06:38) How Adam start in photography
(09:45) When did Adam start to tour
(13:22) Going from local shows to international acts
(18:10) Being a fine arts photographer
(22:36) From band world to DJ world
(25:47) When Adam met Diplo
(28:17) First3 Agency
(35:02) What photographers can do to get on tour
(37:21) Giving back
(40:53) Wrap up notes
(42:49) Shower Shoes
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What Does A Front Of House Engineer Do On Tour? ft. Nate Northway (Rise Against, A Day To Remember)
01:10:39
Nate Northway is the guy that handles all the audio you hear in a live concert. It's a full-time job when you are on tour and one of the most stressful parts of the show as well. The pressure is on when you are the person who is fully responsible for how the band sounds coming out of those speakers. Nate has worked for Neil's band, A Day To Remember - as well as Rise Against.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Nate’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a front of house engineer on the road
• The importance of
• Tips for being a successful front of house engineer
(0:00) Intro
(3:56) Nate gets on the bus
(6:57) How everyone met
(8:28) FOH from an artist’s perspective
(12:03) Nate’s start in the industry
(19:44) Touring and performing are hard
(23:42) Skills required to be a good FOH engineer
(26:53) Training your ear and analog vs digital
(30:25) Daily responsibilities
(38:48) Soundcheck (the most important part of the day for FOH)
(47:44) Doors
(48:47) Personal time
(51:19) Showtime!
(54:30) How to get the setlist
(57:24) The importance of teamwork during loadout
(1:00:11) Chill routines and tour stories
(1:06:15) Wrap up
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Trust Your Gut ft. Eric Gerloff (A$AP Ferg, Lil Uzi Vert, BoywithUke)
01:06:18
Everyone lets welcome onto the bus, Eric Gerloff! Eric wears a lot of hats on tour; he’s a tour manager, production manager, and sound engineer to name a few. Eric has toured with a wide variety of artists starting all the way back on Warped Tour and now tour manages A$AP Ferg, Lil Uzi Vert, and BoywithUke. Thanks to his years of experience in the music industry, Eric has a strong gut feeling when hiring crew members or working with a new artist. There’s so much knowledge to gain from Eric so get comfy for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Eric has worked with a long list of varied genre artist
• What is it like to tour in the rap/hip hop world
• Why does Eric trust his gut so much when choosing crew members or artists to work for
• Lessons Eric learned from mistakes he made early in his career
(00:00) Intro
(01:47) Patreon
(02:13) Eric gets on the bus
(02:27) How long Adam and Eric have known each other
(04:50) When Eric started touring
(06:24) Mistakes Eric made early on in his career
(11:08) Who Eric has worked for
(13:43) Difference between Warped Tour bands and hip-hop artists
(20:02) What it's like being on a free for all tour
(25:47) How to let people know you're available
(27:37) What Eric looks for when bringing on new tour members
(36:28) Smoking and drinking on the job
(49:27) How to know when you're the right fit for an artist
(56:04) Wrap up notes
(56:38) Shower Shoes
This week we welcome Danny Worspon to the podcast! Danny is a singer/songwriter for Asking Alexandria. This was an off-the-cuff episode with Danny’s crazy energy. We’ve toured together in the past and I’ve witnessed firsthand some adventures with Danny. He has years of touring experience traveling all across the world - this guy definitely does not shit on the bus. Thank you Danny for your time and hope to see you on the road again soon.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to find yourself off of tour
• How Danny handled growing up on tour
• The importance of knowing yourself
• The physical and mental stress touring can cause
(00:00) Intro
(03:31) Danny gets on the bus
(06:30) Being the same on and off stage
(08:06) What it's like being an artist on stage
(10:01) Seattle Incident
(15:41) How Danny thinks of his different phases
(17:17) Ireland Story
(21:43) The next phase after Asking Alexandria
(22:45) What it feels to be in a downward spiral
(23:11) Looking back at retrospective moments
(26:25) What Danny's life was like for 8 years
(27:36) Advice for up and coming artist
(30:52) Taking the music business seriously
(40:16) Feeling normal
(44:58) How to interact with certain artist
(50:45) What Danny thinks of himself
(53:23) Danny getting ready for tour
(55:05) Wrap up notes
(55:53) Shower Shoes
Touring etiquette can be tricky. There are countless rules, guidelines, situations, and experiences that only come up once in a while. In this episode, we cover how to exist on the road on both a work and personal level. We talk about showering, fridge rules, and bunk selection. Of course, once you get out there and start touring, you will make some mistakes. So we cover how to make mistakes correctly and how to handle them appropriately.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Don't Be A Dick!
• How to stay organized on the road
• The keys to coexisting with a lot of people
• Staying organized and constantly improving on the road
(00:00) Intro
(5:35) Overview
(10:25) Living together with other crew
(12:36) Rules on the bus
(25:30) Rules of the venue
(27:45) Showering
(32:31) Wifi etiquette
(33:03) Working together and making mistakes
(40:57) Free time
(43:28) How to handle other people being dicks
(45:46) learning and growing
(49:30) Wrap up
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Being The Best Hang ft. Chris Lent (The Villa, Polyphia)
00:58:02
Let's welcome Chris Lent to the podcast this week! Chris is a drum tech, drummer, and stage manager. Chris has played with From First To Last, I Set My Friends On Fire - and is currently in The Villa and Pretty Idiiot. He is currently stage manager for Polyphia. The path Chirs has made into the music industry is one of the most rock n roll ways and it’s incredible to chat with him about how he kept leveling up his career. He’s a guy of many talents both as a crew member as well as being in a couple of his own bands. There’s a lot to learn about being a great hang on the road in this one so get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Why Chris makes friends with all his crew mates on tour
• How Chris has worked with and been in several bands over his music career
• The importance of leaving your ego at the door when going out on the road
• What happened in the viral video Chris was in
(00:00) Intro
(01:57) Patreon
(03:03) Chris gets on the bus
(03:16) Chris's viral video
(12:06) Scaling up with Polyphia
(13:23) Going from drum tech to stage manager
(14:47) How Chris started touring
(18:42) Stories from the road
(26:02) Chris on joining I See My Friends on Fire
(30:35) Who Chris is currently touring with
(35:09) Working off the road
(38:39) Working without an ego
(40:02) Taking a break from music
(43:55) Creating relationships with crew members
(50:48) How to be a good guest on stage
(55:35) Wrap up notes
(56:01) Shower Shoes
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Chris Lent - Guest
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► The Vila: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ae8KWCsJNw
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Austin Roa is a touring photographer and videographer. He has worked with artists such as The Lumineers, HOZIER, and is currently out with AJR. In today’s episode we dive into how Austin began his career in music from shooting DIY house shows to leveling up to international arena tours. Just like on tour, he only brought good vibes and stories for this week’s episode - thanks for coming on Austin!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to craft new images in similar-looking venues
• How Austin went from sneaking into shows at SXSW to touring around the world with AJR
• Why being a good person is the best quality to have on the road
• The amount of creative freedom Austin has with AJR
(00:00) Intro
(01:35) Patreon
(02:05) Austin gets on the bus
(03:39) Austin's get home from tour routine
(09:40) Touring consistently with one artist
(12:13) AJR's Broadway show
(13:07) AJR in New Zealand
(14:49) Different sizes of AJR tours
(17:28) AJR's viral TikTok moents
(18:59) Creating a strong relationship with an artist
(20:31) Austin's first tour
(21:22) Going with your gut
(26:20) The value of personality when touring
(27:56) Austin jumping on Hippos Campus's bus
(31:33) Content goals for a world tour
(33:39) Crew suggestions
(36:37) Challenging yourself creatively on tour
(41:36) How Austin stays healthy on tour
(46:40) Wrap up notes
(48:07) Shower Shoes
Lucas Keller of Milk & Honey Interview - Creating a Company Through Connection
00:32:17
This week we welcome Lucas Keller - the CEO & Founder of Milk & Honey. Milk & Honey is a 21st-century hybrid entertainment company that represents some of the biggest songwriters & producers in the music industry today. David Hodges, Oak Felder, Sir Nolan, and Jenna Andrews to name a few. Lucas played a big role in my career when I was just starting out - and I am thankful for what I was able to learn from him. It is nice to reconnect, and start learning from him again. The music industry is like that sometimes - sometimes you don’t hear from people for 10+ years, and then the next thing you know you are working with them.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Lucas was able to form Milk & Honey
• The path Lucas took to become a major music manager
• How important it is to show support for the LGBTQ+ community
• What personality traits Lucas looks for in the people he works with
(00:00) Intro
(02:20) Patreon
(02:46) Lucas gets on the bus
(04:46) What caused Lucas to become a manager
(08:10) How Milk & Honey was created
(15:19) Leaving The Collective to start Milk & Honey
(18:08) Strategies Lucas implemented for success
(24:12) What values Luca s looks for in people
(26:26) Support for the LGBTQ+ community
(29:16) Wrap up notes
(29:25) Shower Shoes
Understanding Sexual Violence ft. Kim Warnick (Calling All Crows)
01:04:08
Kim is a program director at Calling All Crows. They work with venues, festivals, and touring crews to help end sexual violence in the music industry. In today’s episode, we explore what sexual violence looks like in a concert setting. We cover on a very basic level - how to handle these situations when they arise - from both the crew and attendee perspectives. However, I would heavily recommend taking their online course as it goes much deeper than we do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Calling All Crow's role at venues
• How to spot sexual harassment
• What you can do to prevent sexual harassment and violence
• Methods you can use when in an uncomfortable environment
(00:00) Intro
(02:14) Patreon
(02:54) Kim gets on the bus
(08:22) The thought process behind Calling All Crows
(14:30) What qualifies as sexual violence
(19:58) Response to Calling All Crows from venues and staff
(23:04) When you need to change your environment and when to leave it
(25:06) Festival Example
(27:43) Tour Bus Example
(36:19) Adam's improvement with his language
(41:06) Example of workplace harassment
(59:36) Wrap up notes
(01:00:54) Shower Shoes
How Festivals Are Created ft. Amanda Phelan (Danny Wimmer Presents)
00:57:18
This week we have the wonderful Amanda Phelan on the bus! Amanda comes to us from Danny Wimmer Presents - where she is the Director of Talent. Lately I have been noticing a lot of misinformation out there on what actually goes into making a festival happen. Now I do not know what it takes to put on a festival - because I have never done it. Danny Wimmer Presents puts on eight different festivals all over the USA every year. Aftershock, Louder Than Life & Hometown Rising to name a few. I have had the pleasure of attending some of them when I was on tour with A Day To Remember - and damnit, they were a blast. I hope you enjoy this week’s episode with Amanda - it was an absolute pleasure to get to speak with her and learn from her for an hour.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How a festival is created from start to show day
• How Amanda helps create festivals for Danny Wimmer Presents
• The misconceptions of When We Were Young Festival
• How promoters pick which artist will perform at a festival
(00:00) Intro
(02:05) Patreon
(03:02) Amanda gets on the bus
(06:34) What it’s like working at Danny Wimmer Presents
(10:21) Amanda's path into the music industry
(15:06) Danny Wimmer Presents Festivals
(17:27) How a festival is created
(25:48) How talent is booked for festivals
(32:35) What determines the lineup order?
(35:32) Announcing a festival
(40:33) What happens on a festival show day
(44:27) How to work for a festival
(47:47) When We Were Young Festival
(55:58) Wrap up notes
What Does an Entertainment Lawyer Do? ft. Eric German
01:07:43
This week we have Entertainment Lawyer Eric German on the show. Eric is a good example of how we are all really just fans. He loved music as a kid and found a way to make a career in it. Something that really stuck out to me about Eric is how involved he is with his clients on a daily basis. He puts his relationships before everything, and it really shows. I enjoyed his outlook on how to do business and maintain your focus. Thanks again for joining me eric.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What the heck an entertainment lawyer does
• About Eric’s involvement in landmark cases for Napster and Limewire
• When to use a contract as an agreement
• How a lawyer forms relationships with their artist
(00:00) Intro
(02:31) Patreon
(03:29) Eric gets on the bus
(05:56) What does an entertainment lawyer do?
(09:03) When Eric started being an entertainment lawyer
(15:26) How Eric combined law and music
(19:43) Being able to vibe with people
(27:50) How a lawyer improvers their relationship with an artist
(36:01) Intellectual property
(44:10) What an artist can and can't say to a crowd
(47:50) What is a DMCA notice?
(52:17) How to understand contracts
(01:01:10) Wrap up notes
(01:04:28) Shower Shoes
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Eric German - Guest
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What Does a Stylist Do? ft. Brooke Llewellyn (Demi Lovato, Sia)
00:59:18
This week we have Brooke on the podcast! I got to hang out with Brooke a few weeks ago at a wedding and the whole time I was just thinking - I need to know more about what she does for a living. We met once before, but never really got the time to sit down and know her - now I have! Brooke is a stylist that has worked with Demi Lovato, SIA, and St. Vincent to name a few. I never realized what a big role a stylist plays in someone's look. After the fact, it kind of seemed like a no-brainer, and I am not sure how I overlooked it before. As always I hope you genuinely enjoy this episode as much as I did. Any week I get to learn about someone else’s job on the road is a good week for me.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Brooke started being a stylist
• What it’s like being on tour for most of the year
• How Brooke went from being a photo assistant to a lead stylist for A list artist
• How Brooke’s great network of friends helped her tour with Demi Lovato
(00:00) Intro
(01:53) Patreon
(02:28) Brooke gets on the bus
(04:32) What does a stylist do
(10:03) The need to have a stylist on your team
(12:03) How Brooke started in styling
(18:49) Brooke going on tour with Anlias
(27:24) Touring with Demi Lovato
(31:35) Making the best of a situation
(39:19) A stylist schedule on tour
(51:55) What Brooke is working on now
(55:08) What's next for Brooke
(57:02) Wrap up notes
(57:33) Shower Shoes
Balancing Photo and Video on Tour ft. Jake Chams (Lorde, Panic at the Disco, Marshmello)
00:53:59
This week on the podcast lets welcome Jake Chams who is a tour photographer and videographer. Jake has toured with artists such as Panic At The Disco, Lorde, and Marshmello. This episode has a ton of great lessons on why everyone should keep an open mind to learning while on the road. There’s a ton of laughing in this one so brace yourself for another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How impactful a photographer/videographer is on a tour
• Why Jake always has an open mind to learning on tour
• About Jake’s major injury from touring
• When you to have your camera ready and when to put it away around artists
(00:00) Intro
(02:11) Patreon
(02:37) Jake gets on the bus
(03:55) How Jake got on tour with Panic at the Disco
(10:28) Knowing social boundaries
(14:37) Being opened to learning
(19:50) Wearing multiple hats on tour
(22:48) Niche jobs at different touring levels
(25:13) Why artist want someone for both photo and video
(28:51) What makes the music industry so brutal
(30:58) Experienced photographer/videographer vs new photographer/videographer
(35:59) Jake's accident
(43:29) How Jake prepares for a tour
(48:20) Wrap up notes
(48:25) Shower Shoes
Working with Artists ft. Paris Visone (Limp Bizkit, New Found Glory)
00:54:51
This week we welcome Paris Visone, an amazing Music Photographer and solid friend. Paris has created her career out of working with artists - not for them. Which I think is an important distinction to make. When you tour with someone, your work as a photographer is a reflection of your relationship with that artist. Arguably even more important - that artist’s relationship with you. Paris has been touring for over 10 years and during those years has created some very unique work with artists such as Limp Bizkit, New Found Glory, & Godsmack. It was great to catch up with her, a pleasure to learn from her - and I hope, as always - you enjoy this conversation as much as I do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Paris was able to tour with Limp Bizkit, New Found Glory, and Godsmack
• Why working one on one with an artist brings out the best content
• How to be a paid touring music photographer
• About being boxed into a certain genre of music
(00:00) Intro
(01:43) Patreon
(02:18) Paris gets on the bus
(04:16) How Adam and Paris know each other
(05:51) How Paris started touring
(10:24) Learning experiences from the road
(14:12) Knowing your place on tour
(19:48) How to get on tour as a photographer
(24:41) Branching out to other genres of music
(27:29) Touring with Limp Bizkit
(30:29) Working one on one with an artist
(38:33) Perfect content team for on the road
(47:29) How to get paid for your photography
(52:06) Wrap up notes
(53:20) Shower Shoes
What Does A Tour Manager Do On Tour? ft. Meg Dieter (Slayer, Pharrell, Blink-182)
01:30:25
Meet our first guest - Meg Dieter. Meg has toured for the past ten years with a variety of artists such as Pharrell, Blink-182, Slayer, Testament, and Selena Gomez. This week we are lucky enough to have her take a moment and teach us what exactly a Tour Manager does on the road.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Meg’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a Tour Manager
• The importance of advancing a show
• Meg’s tips on being a successful tour manager
(0:00) Intro
(3:45) Meg gets on the bus
(10:38) How Meg got her start to touring
(22:15) Skill requirements to be a great tour manager
(32:15) Daily responsibilities on the road
(36:40) Walkthrough of an average day on tour
(52:44) The importance of knowing when to talk to people
(55:06) Showtime!
(1:03:17) It’s all in the details
(1:08:25) How to advance a show
(1:17:06) Other potential jobs for people with this skillset
Finding Your Path In The Music Industry with Tyler Posey
01:04:39
This week Tyler Posey joins us to talk about his lifelong journey with music. Listening to Blink-182, playing in local bands, Warped Tour - and eventually touring with his band internationally. Although his journey is far from complete, it's great being able to learn from his experience so far. Hopefully, we get to hang in Tyler with real life soon! Heck, maybe we will even tour with him one day. If you need photos - Adam is your guy. if you need Vegan food, a guitarist, or someone to talk about Blink-182 with - Neil has got you covered.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How music has played a role in Tyler’s life
• Working with Crew on TV Sets
• Who loves Blink-182 more - Neil or Tyler?
• The differences between acting and touring
(00:00) Intro
(03:21) Patreon shout-outs
(04:23) Tyler gets on the bus
(08:08) Life before music
(10:44) Tyler and Neil talk about Punk shows
(14:46) Starting to play music
(16:23) New Found Glory discussion
(18:08) Being resourceful
(20:27) The start of Tyler’s touring
(23:56) Eight years of Teen Wolf life
(26:34) Tyler and his early manager
(28:22) Movie set life vs. music life
(29:44) The Vans Warped Toured!
(36:06) Tyler playing at Warped Tour
(37:21) Tyler’s touring experience
(38:37) Driving story
(41:05) Touring vs Acting
(44:06) What was discovered on tour
(53:46) Readjusting to normal life mode
(55:29) Post-tour feelings
(56:35) Crew on a TV set
(101:39) Wrap up notes
(1:02:47) Shower shoes?
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Tyler Posey - Guest
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Everyone please welcome this week’s guest to the bus - Jonny Craig! I have known Jonny for awhile, but had never gotten the chance to sit down and talk with him. Some of these stories are hard to listen to, but I’m thankful Jonny is able to tell them so that we can all learn from him.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What caused Jonny to start taking opioids
• The cycle of addiction and how hard it is to break
• How Jonny joined Dance Gavin Dance
• Jonny new music & outlook on life
(00:00) Intro
(02:46) Patreon
(03:09) Jonny gets on the bus
(08:13) Jonny joining Dance Gavin Dance
(12:06) How Jonny created the vocal sound for Dance Gavin Dance
(13:57) Initially declining Rise Records, finding Eric Rushing
(16:01) When Jonny first got addicted to drugs
(20:05) Jonny becoming more addicted to pills
(24:43) When Jonny started to lose friends because of his addictions
(26:08) Adam's story about Jonny in Vegas
(28:04) The lowest points for Jonny
(29:57) Macbook situation
(40:04) How to help someone with an addiction
(42:23) What enabling looks like
(45:56) Binge Drinking
(48:58) Jonny returning to live music & sobriety
(01:00:17) Wrap up notes
(01:02:47) Jonny’s solo career
(01:05:14) Shower Shoes
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Teamwork, Mentors, and Mentees ft. Josh Terry (Mayday Parade, Sad Summer Festival)
00:55:51
This week on the podcast please welcome Josh Terry who is the manager of Mayday Parade and one of the founders of Sad Summer Festival. This episode felt like a masterclass in mentorships thanks to Josh having a sea of knowledge for us to listen to. Make sure to make out to Sad Summer Festival this season - you won’t want to miss it.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Josh made the jump from managing bands to starting a festival
• What are the most important skills needed to grow in the music industry
• Skills mentors need to have to be able to pass on their knowledge to their mentees
• How COVID help Josh improve on his own skills for Sad Summer Festival
(00:00) Intro
(02:03) Patreon
(02:56) Josh gets on the bus
(03:43) How long Josh has been in the music industry
(05:02) When Josh started working in the music industry
(13:01) How Josh finds the right type of people to have intern for him
(20:20) What makes for a great mentor
(23:44) What it means to do the "un-cool" things"
(27:54) Red flags Josh looks out for before bringing someone on as an intern
(34:30) Knowing when to let someone make the wrong decision
(40:26) Josh's transition from being a manager to starting a festival
(49:46) Entry points to work for Sad Summer Fest
(53:57) Wrap up notes
(54:04) Shower Shoes
What Does a Merchandise Director Do? ft. Melissa Hemingway ( Flysouth Music Group )
00:54:54
This week we are joined by Melissa Hemingway of Fly South Music Group. Melissa is the Merch Director at Fly South. She started out in Illinois going to college and then moved to Florida to work for Fueled By Ramen right around the time of its conception. I like Melissa’s journey because it does not involve touring - which has been the minority case for us on the podcast. I think I am most impressed by how different areas of the industry collaborate and work with the artists themselves. To me, that is one of the most fun parts, but at the same time can be the most challenging. No two artists are the same, and each one takes a specific set of skills to work with successfully. Thank you Melissa for sharing your journey and knowledge with us this week. Enjoy!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• The difference between a merchandise director and a tour merch
• About Melissa working at the early days of Fueled By Ramen
• What goes into designing band merch
• The importance of merchandise for an artist or band
(00:00) Intro
(02:18) Patreon
(02:55) Melissa gets on the bus
(05:37) What does a merch director do?
(06:46) How Melissa started out in the music industry
(10:06) Working at Fueled By Ramen
(15:01) When Melissa become a merchandise director
(16:43) How merch is created for an artist
(18:59) The growing focus of merch in an artist's career
(21:45) Working with an artist on their merch
(24:26) Being the communicator between artists and designers
(27:53) How to become a designer for an artist
(31:58) Interning at companies
(35:54) Barriers for women in the industry
(39:47) How a tour merch line is created
(45:58) The retail side of band merch
(49:13) Fly South
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:47) Shower Shoes
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Melissa Hemingway - Guest
► Fly South Music Group: https://www.flysouthmusic.com
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What Does A Merchandise Manager Do On Tour? ft. Jordan Lovis (Travis Scott, Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance)
01:03:34
Merchandise Manager Jordan Lovis joins us this week to talk about what exactly goes on behind the scenes to get those t-shirts into customers’ hands at a concert. Jordan started out touring in a way over 15 years ago and has slowly worked his way up to bigger and more extensive tours. Most recently, Jordan ran merch for Travis Scott on his massively successful Astroworld Tour. Jordan’s past clients include Fall Out Boy, My Chemical Romance, A Day To Remember, Run The Jewels, Good Charlotte, Miike Snow, and Travis Scott.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast, we will learn:
• Jordan’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a merchandise manager on the road
• The importance of staying organized
• Tips for being a successful merch slinger
(0:00) Intro
(4:01) Jordan gets on the bus
(8:18) Jordan’s introduction to touring
(19:40) The importance of organization
(21:23) Skills required to be successful in Merchandise Management
(22:59) General overview of job requirements
(25:13) Job scaling from small van tour to stadiums
(26:40) Venue sells, what are they, and why do they affect you?
(29:02) Astroworld and Travis Scott
(32:17) A day in the life on tour
(44:49) Game-changing experiences on the road
(47:11) To sell it all or not to sell it all, that is the question
(49:22) End of the night and prepping for the next day
(57:04) Where does the money go?
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What Does a Songwriter/Producer Do? ft. Andrew Goldstein (Blackbear, Linkin Park, Maroon 5)
01:14:14
This week we have Andrew Goldstein - an incredibly talented songwriter/producer who has a rolodex of artists he’s worked with but not limited to Blackbear, Linkin Park, and Demi Lovato. Andrew started his career as a touring musician before eventually making his way to LA to work in the studio. I saw his wikipedia page and damn - this guy has worked with everyone. The more we talked I discovered he went about living in LA the right way. Andrew is a such thoughtful guest to have on and I hope you can take away some knowledge from this episode. Thank you Andrew for your time and for sharing your knowledge.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to see other artists success as a motivator
• Andrew’s transition from being in a band to producing music
• The importance of setting up boundaries and ambitions
• How Andrew produced for Blackbear, Katy Perry, and Selena Gomez
(00:00) Intro
(02:24) Patreon
(02:47) Andrew gets on the bus
(03:20) Andrew's start in music
(07:13) No fan shows
(10:43) Friday Night Boys
(17:03) When Andrew saw he could be a producer
(20:48) How Andrew delt with no fans showing up to shows
(24:39) When Andrew started to produce music
(29:55) Andrew signing a deal to produce music
(31:01) Andrew creating Classic for MKTO
(37:13) There is no map in the music industry
(38:26) Andrew working with Blackbear
(47:31) The moment Andrew was able to self validate himself
(58:17) Why it's unusual for only two people to create a massive hit
(01:01:38) Setting boundaries on ambition
(01:07:35) Wrap up notes
(01:08:58) Shower Shoes
There are so many different jobs that exist on tour. So what happens during the day? Who does what? Where do they do it? And for how long? This week we break a single tour day down into its different segments and explain job by job what each person is doing. We hope this helps fill in some areas of confusion and give you a better understanding of what goes on all day to make a concert happen.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What a typical day on tour looks like
• What happens, when - and where
(00:00) Intro
(8:53) Overview
(15:18) Time is relative on tour
(16:05) Adam’s craziest day
(18:46) Neil’s craziest day
(20:21) Your routine is never permanent
(21:14) Breakdown of an average day
(21:54) Morning vibes at the venue
(27:41) Before load in (BLI)
(30:00) Load-in
(34:34) Soundcheck
(39:52) Doors
(41:20) The show
(48:49) The importance of stage directions
(50:40) Double dipping
(52:02) Load-out and after show
(54:57) Wrap up
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This week we have the legend Eric Gardner on the podcast. Eric has been working in the industry for over 50 years now. He is the CEO & Founder at Panacea Entertainment and currently manages Paul Shaffer & Todd Rundgren. His career and life are full of amazing stories and I am so happy to have him on to share a few with us today. In the future hopefully we can get him back to tell us more stories.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Eric went from volunteering in New York to touring the world with the Grateful Dead
• What helped push for the creation of multi-colored lights on shows
• About the innovation in monitor technology
• How Eric assisted in live music being performed on the radio
(00:00) Intro
(02:24) Patreon
(02:52) Eric gets on the bus
(03:25) Connecting with the Allman Brothers
(13:44) Asking WBAI to play music
(21:07) Being backstage before all-access passes
(24:15) Eric going on tour with the Grateful Dead
(37:01) Bands without managers
(40:51) Evolution of tech in live music
(47:47) The innovation of concert lighting
(52:40) The best cabbage soup in New York City
(56:46) Wrap up notes
(57:35) Shower Shoes
What Does A Production Coordinator Do On Tour? ft. Julie Galetar (Shawn Mendes, Madonna, Sting)
00:52:21
Julie Galetar is one of the best production coordinators out there on the road, and the client list proves it. Julie has worked for Shawn Mendes, Sting, Paul Simon, and Madonna. We really enjoyed just listening when it came to Julie. She had some much information that we didn’t even know we needed to know. That is what makes her so good at her job. A production coordinator is a glue that holds a tour together. We hope you enjoy everything Julie has to say as much as we did!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Julie’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a production coordinator on the road
• The importance of playing to your skillset
• Tips for being a successful production coordinator
(0:00) Intro
(3:07) Julie gets on the bus
(6:15) Julie’s start to touring
(16:03) The SparkNotes of touring
(17:52) Skills needed to be a good production coordinator
(20:37) Never stop learning
(25:45) The job is super rewarding
(29:33) Average day
(32:45) Specialization of jobs
(38:53) Getting rid of factors out of your control
(40:54) What exactly does the scale of your job look like?
(42:33) Hotel etiquette
(45:45) Bonding through movies
(48:41) Wrap up
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Chris Gaylord of Wage War Interview - From Van to Tour Bus
01:04:03
This week we have Chris Gaylord, the bassist for Wage War on the podcast. I haven’t seen Chris in almost three years now but damn was it good to catch up with him. Chris’ band has been touring their asses off for almost ten years now. This most recent tour was their first in a tour bus and I know that feeling all too well. Congrats guys, what a time to be alive. If you haven’t had a chance to check out Wage War - put on their Spotify, clear all the breakable objects from your vicinity, and just mosh. That is what I do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Wage War worked their way up from opener to headliner
• What touring looks like post-COVID
• About the comradery of being on a bus with your touring crew
• The challenges for a band to go from a van tour to a bus tour
(00:00) Intro
(02:46) Chris gets on the bus
(03:43) When Chris got back on the road
(09:32) What it's like being on the road post COVID
(12:39) When Chris joined the band
(17:24) Knowing there's a long road ahead
(23:17) When Chris started making money through music
(31:53) Big "firsts" for the band
(37:31) Seeing a band not giving it their all
(48:16) Tour Tales
(01:01:37) Wrap up notes
(01:02:36) Shower Shoes
Joshua Roberts of Magnolia Park Interview - Being in a Successful Band in 2022
00:46:04
Joshua Roberts is the lead vocalist for the band Magnolia Park. Not only is he the lead vocalist, he is also a photographer, videographer, and works closely on the band’s brand. In today’s episode, we dive into how Joshua joined Magnolia park, what it’s like to wear multiple hats in a band, and how anime helps inspire the group’s branding. Thank you so much much for jumping on the bus Joshua and we hope you all enjoy this week’s episode!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Josh became a member of Magnolia Park
• The influence of anime on Magnolia Park
• What band needs to do to stay relevant today
• How Magnolia Park constantly improves themselves
(00:00) Intro
(02:21) Patreon
(02:38) Joshua gets on the bus
(03:37) How Magnolia Park formed
(05:07) Touring post-COVID
(06:59) Simple Plan Tour and Sad Summer Fest
(09:00) How Joshua joined the band
(11:28) Magnolia Park deciding to go on the road
(13:41) Wearing multiple hats in the band
(18:17) Staying relevant as a musician today
(20:01) Magnolia Park inspiration from anime
(23:39) How Joshua got into anime
(30:24) Working with Flysouth, Andrew Wade, and ADTR
(32:07) Constantly improving
(36:21) How to go from local band to touring musicians
(40:07) Wrap up notes
(41:23) Shower Shoes
What Does A Monitor Engineer Do On Tour? ft. Charlie Bybee (5 Seconds Of Summer, ONE OK ROCK, Rise Against)
01:10:12
Tanner Wayne joins us this week to discuss everything he knows about working as a drum tech. Tanner’s career path over the past 15 years has allowed him to learn both the artist and tech side of working with drums. Tanner has worked for over 15 artists as a drum tech during his career so far - some of which are Of Mice & Men, Atreyu, & Miguel. He has also played in Chiodos, Scary Kids Scaring Kids - and is currently a member of the band In Flames.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Tanner’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a drum tech on the road
• The importance of knowing your stock
• Tips for being a successful drum tech
(0:00) Intro
(3:15)Tanner gets on the bus
(8:00) The importance of being a good hang
(11:25) Don’t be a punisher!
(13:30) How Tanner started touring
(20:37) Skills needed to be a good drum tech
(25:12) What’s a carnet?
(and some travel stories)
(29:21) Daily responsibilities
(36:25) Self-care on the road
(40:38) Doors and downtime
(47:00) Showtime and putting out fires
(53:35) Break it down and load it out
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Matt Halpern of Periphery Interview – Life on and off the Road
00:56:15
Matt Halpern is the Drummer of Periphery and one of the creators behind Get Good Drums. I love how balanced and intentional he is with his life and it was a pleasure to learn from him for an hour. Congrats on creating a human with your life, I look forward to experiencing the joys of life you are experiencing right now. See you in real life soon!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Matt found a balance between the touring world and family life
• Several methods Matt uses to help with anxiety on and off the road
• How having a child has changed Matt’s life during COVID
• The tremendous growth of Matt’s career and business over the last decade
(00:00) Intro
(02:12) Patreon
(02:53) Matt gets on the bus
(03:59) Matt's first year with his kid
(07:38) Touring life prepping for raising a child
(10:28) Having a child during COVID
(13:58) Being okay with missing events and moments
(17:56) Arguing with your bandmates
(24:18) Going back on the road
(25:55) Get Good Drums
(28:06) Matt's growth and successes over the last decade
(29:44) Book recommendations
(42:35) How Matt controls his anxiety on the road
(47:23) How Adam and Matt met
(53:58) Wrap up notes
(54:33) Shower Shoes
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Matt Halpern - Guest
► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mattperiphery
► Twitter: https://twitter.com/MattPeriphery
► Get Good Drums: https://www.getgooddrums.com
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Jobs That Exist at a Venue ft. Joey Phillips (The Forum)
01:05:20
This week we welcome back our friend Joey. We promised you two episodes, and two episodes you shall get. This week we go a bit deeper into what jobs exist at a venue. This is important for not only touring professionals but anyone out there who might want to start their journey at a venue level. Honestly, it is a lot of information. I am hoping we can get a typed version of this up pretty soon… Joey just has so much to say and I enjoyed the short tangents we went on throughout the episode as well. Thanks again for your time Joey.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• About the different positions that work at a venue
• How to transfer touring skills to venue operations
• How working at a venue helps with touring skills
• What to avoid doing at a venue
(00:00) Intro
(00:34) Patreon
(00:48) Joey gets on the bus
(04:25) The benefits of working at a venue
(11:22) Joey being an usher
(12:03) Basic little things that mean a lot in a venue
(16:05) The starting jobs at a venue
(17:11) What a production coordinator does at a venue
(20:00) What does VIP do at a venue
(23:04) How venues prepped Joey for tour
(24:03) What does security do at a venue
(28:54) Adam's security story
(32:16) What does the box office do at a venue
(34:03) Specialized positions
(39:34) What are operations
(41:56) What a tour can do to make a venue's life easier
(46:32) House photographers for a venue
(52:10) Shipments to venues
(54:24) Photographers relationship with venue security
(58:35) Unforeseen cost
(1:03:27) Wrap up notes
(1:04:17) Shower Shoes
Interview with Sully Sullivan - Working Security in the Music Industry (The Vans Warped Tour, Billie Eilish)
01:08:27
Security guards can work for the venue, the artist, a tour, or even a festival. Regardless of what job you have in the music industry - you will, at some point, have to interact with security. They are there to keep everyone safe, and we would argue they are the true heroes of the music industry. Without them at the venue, everything and nothing would happen simultaneously, and chaos would ensue. Please welcome Sully to the Don't Shit on the bus Podcast. Sully has been doing security in the music industry since before we were born. In the late 90's he worked in hip-hop; then he was with The Vans Warped Tour from start to finish - and lately, you might have seen him on the road with Billie Eilish. That is just naming a few. The point is, he has been doing this for a long time and has a lot of good information and stories. As always, we hope you enjoy this as much as we did and hope it leads to a better understanding of what is going on in a security guard’s day when you cross paths with them at a venue.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to work best with security at venues
• What it takes to be a security guard
• How the internet has affected security
• What it’s like working Warped Tour
(00:00) Intro
(05:50) Sully gets on the bus
(06:31) How Sully got started working in security
(03:38) Qualifications to work with Sully
(11:50) The levels of security on tour
(17:58) Security and Photographers relationship
(22:10) Security is there to keep you safe
(25:31) Risks Sully looks out for on the job
(30:49) Different types of security for different artists
(32:19) Venues damaging themselves
(34:12) How security has changed because of the internet
(37:06) The importance of rules
(44:19) What touring will look like post covid
(46:50) Tips on how to help security
(56:30) Just here for the music
(1:01:42) Wrap up notes
(1:02:34) Shower Shoes
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Kelen Capener of The Story So Far Interview – Hmusic, Hockey, & Herpetology
01:04:03
This week we have Kelen Capener of The Story So Far on the podcast. Kelen is a kind human I respect and admire. He makes jokes that are so believable they often go over my head and you will witness this multiple times throughout the podcast. I was happy to catch up with him because well, we haven't spoken in a long time. It was nice to catch up on what he has been up to in life as well as revisit some memories we have together. This was a great chat, thank you Kelen
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Kelen enjoying of pranking people throughout his career in music
• Thoughts on When We Were Young Festival
• The insignificance of verifications on social platforms
• How Kelen learned to cope with no live music during COVID
(00:00) Intro
(02:25) Kelen gets on the bus
(04:31) The 3 H's
(05:00) How Adam heard about Kelen's band
(11:47) Kelen's band touring with ADTR
(17:54) Super Bowl night in Germany
(20:30) When We Were Young Festival
(27:10) Kelen's high school music teacher
(34:46) Panda Express and Guitar Center
(40:39) Catfishing on Warped Tour
(41:31) Lessons learned on the road
(46:23) What Covid taught Kelen
(50:47) Made up characters
(57:34) Wrap up notes
(01:00:18) Hockey question
(01:02:44) Shower Shoes
We are trying something new this week called Tour Check-Ins. Let's welcome this week’s guest to the bus, Suge. Yes, it’s just Suge. Suge is a guitar tech who has a great sense of humor you won’t miss - he’s a chill dude. Suge is currently touring with Miley Cyrus so be on the lookout for him on stage.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What it’s like to tour with Miley Cyrus
• The questions that Suge asks before taking on a tour
• A kind artist leads to a kind touring crew
• What made Suge the right person to go on tour with Miley Cyrus
(00:00) Intro
(02:05) Patreon
(02:36) Suge gets on the bus
(04:04) When Adam and Suge met
(05:15) How long Suge has been touring
(08:06) Touring South America with Miley Cyrus
(11:35) What made Suge the right person to go on this tour
(15:18) What Suge did on the Miley Cryus tour
(16:32) The questions that should be asked before taking a tour
(20:35) What it's like to travel on an arena level tour
(25:36) Lightning Story
(30:39) What the schedule is like on a Miley Cyrus tour
(33:48) What's different touring with Miley compared to other bands
(37:44) Does a nice artist mean a nice crew?
(43:30) At what point would Suge decide to leave a tour
(47:45) Working with negative crew teams
(52:49) Why you shouldn’t tell negative stories from the road publicly
(54:55) Wrap up notes
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Suge- Guest
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What Does a Tour Promoter Do? ft. Brittanie Delava
00:53:29
This week we have the amazing Brittanie to talk about being a Tour Promoter. We have talked about so many jobs that exist on tour - but there is a whole other group of jobs that make it possible to even have a tour. A Tour Promoter is one of those jobs. It is also a job I thought I knew a lot about, but in fact I didn’t know much about. Their job is very important when it comes to booking a tour, selecting venues - and then of course, promoting the tour! I took this opportunity to ask Brittianie all the questions I had on the topic - and she definitely answered all of them and more. Thanks again for joining me Brittanie - enjoy the episode everyone!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How a tour is routed
• The complexity of working with venues and other artists as a Tour Promoter
• What Brittanie did to build out her position at AEG
• How a Promoter works with an artist’s team to help grow that artist
(00:00) Intro
(02:06) Patreon
(03:46) Brittanie gets on the bus
(05:01) What does a Promoter do on tour?
(05:21) How Brittanie got started in music
(13:21) Working and learning from Dave Shapiro
(16:30) Working for AEG
(20:04) How a tour is booked out
(23:56) What an agent and local Promoter settle on
(27:42) How does an artist gets paid
(29:12) How Promoters negotiate for more money
(39:17) How a Promoter helps an artist get to their next career level
(44:57) Skills to be up to date as a Promoter
(48:59) How are lineups made
(51:50) Wrap up notes
(52:15) Shower Shoes
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Becoming a Manager in the Music Industry ft. Ryan Bingham (Fly South Music Group)
01:00:08
This week we have Bing, Manager at Fly South Music Group. I wanted to know more about what the journey to being a manager was like. I usually just end up working with managers. I don’t always know how they acquired their career. Luckily Bing was nice enough to sit down with me and teach me how he did it. I hope that others can find this information useful in their journey.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Bing went from working on Warped Tour to managing large bands
• About the skills you need to have as a good manager
• The value of having a flexible job when you’re off the road
• What an A&R do for an artist
(00:00) Intro
(02:04) Patreon
(02:35) Bing gets on the bus
(05:17) How Bing got into the touring world
(10:50) Having a job when you're off the road
(20:41) How Bing made the shift to being. a manager
(27:19) Being a fan of music
(31:36) Making it known what you want to do
(36:41) Skills needed to be a manager
(47:28) What does an A&R do?
(58:53) Wrap up notes
(58:56) Shower Shoes
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Bing - Guest
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► Twitter: https://twitter.com/bingy_wingy
► Fly South Music Group: https://www.flysouthmusic.com
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Tour Tales ft. Loni Robinson, Tanner Wayne, Michelle Grace Hunderson, Casey Ervin
01:07:05
This week we are trying something new - and if you like it, let us know and we will do more of it! I invited a few of my friends to the show to tell some of their favorite tour stories. Thank you so much to you all for joining me. If you are an experienced touring person - hit me up and we will get you on the next episode of Tour Tales, or whatever we end up calling this series. Happy holidays to everyone! See you next year!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Loni Robinson’s Killswitch Engage story
• Tanner Wayne’s In Flames story
• Michelle Grace H’s security guard story
• Casey Ervin’s Panic At The Disco story
(00:00) Intro
(02:09) Patreon
(05:52) Loni gets on the bus
(07:18) Loni's touring experience
(12:32) Knowing when to tell the right story
(13:53) Loni’s Killswitch Engage Story
(22:21) Lesson Learned
(25:25) Loni’s Pee Story
(27:33) Wrap up notes
(27:52) Shower Shoes
(28:26) Tanner gets on the bus
(29:51) Running around in a Canadian parking lot
(31:10) In Flames Story
(39:05) How to properly react to a bad situation
(42:47) Wrap up notes
(43:02) Michelle gets on the bus
(44:26) Michelle’s Security guard story
(52:40) Wrap up notes
(53:40) Casey gets on the bus
(55:08) Casey's Panic At The Disco Story
(01:02:09) Casey’sBrussels Story
(01:06:05) Wrap up notes
(01:06:07) Shower Shoes
What Does a Dancer Do On Tour? ft. Sara Biv (Major Lazer, Miley Cyrus, Cardi B)
01:04:32
This week we have the talented Sara Biv on the podcast. Sara is a touring dancer who has worked with artists such as Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, and Major Lazer. In addition to touring as a dancer, Sarah is also a choreographer when she is off the road in LA. I initially met Sara when I was touring with Major Lazer. We knew each other from touring but had never really sat down and had a conversation. I knew I was going to learn a lot from her (because let’s be honest I know nothing about being a dancer on tour other than the fact it is physically demanding) but damn, she taught me so much. Not just what she does - but how she does it, and her mindset. It was a very inspirational interview and I hope anyone who has any intention of making it in the touring world gives this one a listen. Thank you Sara!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Life skills Sara developed on the road
• Letting others know you’re available for work
• How crucial it is to be mentally and physically healthy on tour
• How Sara was able to become a choreographer for touring artists
(00:00) Intro
(04:30) Sara gets on the bus
(07:25) When Sara started dancing
(13:55) How Sara started working in the music industry
(19:57) Coming back from tour and having no gigs
(21:33) Sara building choreography into her career
(23:15) Touring with Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, and Major Lazer
(34:37) How Sara deals with rejection because of her height
(35:21) Sara's touring experience
(39:55) An average day on the road with Major Lazer
(44:56) How Sara maintains her mental and physical strength
(47:45) What Diplo taught Sara
(51:06) Before show routine
(53:40) Eminem Story
(55:53) How Sara improves after a show
(59:12) Wrap up notes
(59:18) Shower Shoes
Connor made me write the caption this week…. Because we have Connor on the podcast! Everyone welcome our very own producer, editor, and resident good vibes advocate Connor Gaskey. Connor is on his first. tour. ever. And I couldn’t be more proud, excited, and thrilled for him. Of course, it’s only right we snag him for a day to talk to him about what he has been up to.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Connor was able to network his way onto his first tour
• What skills Connor has learned while on the road
• The importance of being organized and clean on a bandwagon
• What it’s like to work so one on one with BoywithUke
(00:00) Intro
(01:29) Patreon
(02:22) Connor gets on the bus
(03:45) How Connor networked his way to getting his first tour
(06:59) Connor reached out to other photographers
(10:07) Stuff you need to know before going on the road
(12:32) First day on tour
(19:05) Rules of a bandwagon
(19:54) Stories from the road
(26:28) Days seem the same on the road
(29:14) Daily routine on tour
(33:04) Staying healthy on tour
(35:05) The show
(36:15) Working one on one with BoywithUke
(38:46) Recognizing things Connor learned from the podcast on tour
(40:27) One thing of touring Connor did not expect
(41:17) Shower shoes
(41:27) Using skills learned from off the road on tour
(42:25) Things Connor is trying to improve on while touring
(43:28) Wrap up notes
What does a Lighting Director do on Tour? ft. Jeff Maker (All Time Low, Our Last Night)
00:55:00
Jeff Maker is the guy that makes the artists look their best on stage. He is a lighting director, sometimes referred to as an LD. Jeff is most well known for his work with All Time Low over the past ten years. Designing and directing their light show when they were a minor artist and then scaling his abilities as they grew over the years. Now he is one of the best in the game. We hope you enjoy learning from Jeff as much as we did.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Jeff’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a lighting designer on the road
• The importance of taking care of your crew
• Tips for being a successful lighting designer
(0:00) Intro
(2:22) Jeff gets on the bus
(7:43) Jeff’s start to touring
(12:40) Learning and growing on the road
(18:07) Lighting designer vs lighting director (and what the job entails)
(23:12) Skills needed to be a good LD
(24:14) Daily responsibilities
(27:03) Soundcheck
(31:45) Photography and lighting go hand in hand
(37:01) Doors and bunk time
(39:11) Being a team player and having a contingency plan
(45:49) Showtime
(49:06) Lighting up during the day
(50:45) Loadout and preparing for success for the next day
(53:26) Wrap up
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Fostering Friendships in the Music Industry – Interview with Thomas Falcone (Usher, Big Sean, Dillon Francis)
00:59:07
This week we have Thomas Falcone on the bus! Thomas and I have been friends for a while. He has toured around the world - and I have been lucky enough to have toured with him myself. AV Club reporting for Duty. He started in the Warped Tour world, made his way through hip hop, DJs, and now spends most of his time with the biggest artists you know - such as Big Sean, Shawn Mendes, and John Mayer. Anyway, if there is one thing Thomas is a pro at - it’s being a good dude. He fills every room he enters with his good vibes and this week, we take a dive into what it takes to navigate this industry and make friends along the way.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Thomas started photography
• How to make lasting relationships on tour
• The importance of ending a business relationship the correct way
• How Thomas made large advances in his career
(00:00) Intro
(03:22) Thomas gets on the bus
(08:01) More than just photography
(10:03) How Thomas became a music photographer
(14:53) The artists Thomas has worked with
(17:45) Finding time to make friends on tour
(25:20) Making transitions from artist to artist
(28:11) Touring with the correct artist for your career
(35:40) How to end a business relationship on good terms
(43:21) How to become internet friends with people
(48:39) Embarrassing social situations
(51:48) Best way to remember names
(53:39) Wrap up notes
(56:55) Shower Shoes
It's that time again! Community Q & A - we gathered questions from our lovely Patrons and answered them live on twitch. Thank you for your continued support. We appreciate everyone who just takes time out of their week to give the podcast a listen. See you next week for our first artist/crew combo episode!
(00:00) Intro
(00:41) Patreon
(02:18) Q1: How do I take the leap from my 9-5 that I enjoy to touring? Is it hard to tour full time?
(04:36) Q2: What is alarm clock etiquette on a tour bus?
(07:53) Q3: What is something you never thought you needed on tour and something you regret bringing?
(13:39) Q4: What's a solid packing guide and little secrets to help your day run smoother and your bunk comfier
(17:34) Q5: The pre-tour process. When do people meet up/ where? Who coordinates it?
(24:21) Q6: Do you, as a photographer, join the band’s rehearsals before touring to get an idea of what they are going to do on stage and how the lighting will be like?
(25:58) Q7: How early do you start packing for tour and what all goes into your gear case?
(33:37) Q8: SHOWER SHOES
(35:35) Q9: What is a good way for production someone who wants to be a production coordinator to shadow someone?
(41:22) Q10: How early in advance should you reach out to someone in order to shadow them? How do you figure who the tour manager/ manager is?
(46:03) Q11: In regards to in-ear monitors, do backline techs get the same mix as the artist they're teching for? Who's responsible for mixing that?
(51:00) Q12: What is a memory from tour that taught you a lot but never want or need to relive?
(56:43) Q13:What other members on the crew use in-ears and are they worth investing in?
(58:31) Q14: How can I shadow a guitar tech?
(1:00:02) Q15: Do tour managers supply all their office equipment?
(1:01:26) Q16: Do runners work for the venue or the artist?
(1:02:29) Q17: Is there a part of the crew that controls live FX on vocals or instruments?
(1:03:42) Q18: As a graphics designer are there any jobs in the touring world that could use this service or would you say it’s something that’s more behind the curtain?
(1:06:13) Q19: How are photographers paid on tour?
(1:08:17) Q20: What is the deal with your vegan restaurant Neil?
(1:10:16) Q21: At what point should I drop the extra jobs (merch, TM) I do on tour and just market myself as a photographer?
(1:12:57) Wrap Up Notes
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We want to thank everyone for listening to the podcast these past two years. It’s been an incredible journey making this podcast, hearing about all our guest’s journeys, and helping our listeners get on the road. Thank you to all our Patreon members for supporting us on this journey, we hope to meet you all in real life. We aren’t posting every week but Adam will still intermittently host episodes when he discovers new guests. Be on the lookout for those new episodes when they drop and always remember, don’t shit on the bus!
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Interview with Vic Fuentes – Being Inspired as an Artist
00:55:25
This week we have Vic Fuentes - a long-time friend and a well-known singer-songwriter and musician. He spends most of his time creating and playing music for his band Pierce the Veil. As of 2019, he is the CEO of Living The Dream Foundation - a non-profit foundation that helps children and young adults living with life-threatening illnesses stay positive, maintain hope, and appreciate each and every day. Vic takes time to talk to us about his approach to creating music as well as where he draws inspiration from. I love getting to bond with artists and actually hear why they create the way they do. This was an inspiring one for me - hope you enjoy it. Thank you Vic for your time and for sharing your knowledge.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Vic Fuentes is creating the next Pierce the Veil album
• How to craft art with time and intention
• Living The Dream Foundation
• How Vic Fuentes writes music
(00:00) Intro
(3:06) Vic gets on the bus
(3:53) Vic working on an album and Living The Dream
(6:45) How Vic and Adam met
(9:59) ID Story
(11:54) How Vic got into music
(17:56) Pierce The Veil is an extension of Vic
(23:42) Getting inspiration from life to put into music
(26:49) How Vic writes an album
(28:45) Taking your time to craft art
(34:17) Progression in writing
(38:08) Vic learning how to dance
(46:19) Living the Dream Foundation
(52:18) Wrap up notes
(52:29) Shower Shoes
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Vic Fuentes - Guest
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► Twitter: https://twitter.com/piercethevic
► Living The Dream Foundation: https://ltdfoundation.org/
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We got a familiar face back on the bus, it’s Neil! Everyone welcome back Neil who’s been touring around like crazy and we were lucky enough to have him on. It felt like the first episodes when Neil was co-hosting, there’s a ton to laugh at during this episode. Thanks for jumping back on to chat about life Neil. Everyone get ready for another exciting episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What it’s been like touring again during COVID
• How Neil prepared to get back on the road
• What it’s like for Neil to be touring while having a kid
• What it’s like to make friends on a festival circuit
(00:00) Intro
(01:46) Patreon
(02:16) Neil gets on the bus
(06:09) Going out on tour
(11:51) Making friends at festivals
(17:37) Fred Durst story
(18:35) Robert Ortiz's passing
(22:06) Living life with a kid
(35:07) Touring during COVID
(39:41) Why ADTR had to cancel their tour
(57:36) ADTR's new song
(01:00:44) Wrap up notes
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Neil Westfall - Guest
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► Website: https://adtr.com
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Edited & Produced by Connor Gaskey
25 Oct 2021
What Does a Tour Bus Driver Do? ft. Moose
01:10:20
This week we have arguably one of the most important touring jobs on the show - the Bus Driver. Everyone meet Moose - your new favorite bus driver. Moose has spent the last 20 years of his life touring, a good portion of it - driving. However, what I really liked about Moose is that he slowly worked his way up to becoming a bus driver. A lot of drivers are lifers - they have been doing it their whole life and it is all they know. There is nothing wrong with that - in fact, I think it’s quite awesome. However our guest’s story this week was quite relatable to any touring job, and I liked that. Hope you enjoy this week’s episode - I learned a lot and look forward to being a better bus rider in the future. Thanks, Moose.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• The different tiers of vehicles bands use to tour
• How Moose creates a comfortable touring experience for artists
• Moose’s journey from being in a touring band to a touring bus driver
• How to show appreciation to your driver on tour
(00:00) Intro
(01:48) Patreon
(02:57) Moose gets on the bus
(03:15) How Moose got on the road
(06:28) After Moose's first tour
(11:16) Difference between bandwagon and tour bus
(16:40) Why do some bands try to cut costs with drivers
(18:32) The best place for an artist in their career
(21:23) How Moose went from bandwagons to buses
(27:20) An average day for a driver
(36:05) Why artists have problems with drivers
(43:12) Expectations of a bus driver
(48:14) The tiers of buses
(51:32) How bus drivers stay up all night
(59:29) Why you can't shit on the bus
(01:05:46) Wrap up notes
(01:08:43) Shower Shoes
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It's one thing to learn how to tour - but we want you to be on tour. This week we break down the steps you need to take in your own daily life to start increasing your luck, networking and getting your foot in the door of that tour bus. Let’s do this - Get on the bus!!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• The Importance of starting local
• How to create luck
• How to exist backstage at a venue
(00:00) Intro
(3:35) Overview
(7:27) Creating your own luck
(12:22) Put yourself in your local scene
(17:00) Seeing an opportunity and being a good hang
(19:26) How to shadow crew
(23:23) Contacting touring crew
(29:48) Comparing yourself to others
(32:44)They said yes, now what?
(38:28) You know how to dress, but how do you act?
(40:25) Don’t do these things
(45:23) Wrap up
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Networking Is the language of the music industry. This is probably the most crucial episode we will ever release. This is how you navigate the music industry, how you exist in it, and your path to being successful in it. It is not just what you do - but how you do it. The earlier you start learning to speak it, the better.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Networking defined
• The networking process
• How to maintain your relationships
(00:00) Intro
(3:54) Overview
(8:02) Anxiety and networking
(9:30) How it works
(15:06) It’s not the what, it’s the how
(16:40) How to get started
(20:45) What not to do
(22:19) Keeping in touch
(27:21) Help me help you
(28:22) Treat everyone equally and don’t be a dick
(33:50) Your word is everything
(36:20) Traps
(50:06) Real situation #1
(51:58) Real situation #2
(57:08) Wrap up
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They keep telling me to tour, but what is touring? Well, we are here to answer the most basic of basic questions when it comes to touring. Starting with the most important - what is touring? We will tell you what qualifies you to get on tour. Introduce you to all the different jobs that exist on tour. We will also walk you through what the hiring process looks like step by step. This will give you a good starting knowledge base that will better prepare you for the rest of the podcast.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Jobs that exist on tour
• Qualifications for being on tour
• How to get on tour
(00:00) Intro
(01:26) Learning new skills for podcasting
(2:45) Patreon
(5:35) What is touring?
(8:27) Types of touring
(13:22) Jobs on tour
(14:13) Tour manager
(17:04) It’s a 24/7 kinda job
(18:05) Video Operators
(20:31) Lighting designer
(23:12) Personal Assistance
(27:55) The importance of hip hop security
(30:05) Band world
(33:35) What are monitors
(38:12) Front of house
(38:46) Tour photographer
(41:05) Merch
(43:23) Map to touring
(52:41) Wrap it up
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Interview with Lindsey Stirling - Maintaining a Healthy Tour Lifestyle
00:53:31
This week we welcome Lindsey Stirling to the podcast! Lindsey Stirling is a professional violinist, dancer, performance artist, and composer. In addition to everything she does professionally - she is an amazing all-around person full of compassion and charisma. It shows through in everything she does in life. I originally met Lindsey about seven years ago and toured with her briefly. It was so nice to reconnect and thank her for everything she taught me, as well as learn a bit more from her and catch up with her. I think this is a special episode because Lindsey in particular is very good about sharing personal experiences with the intention of relating to and helping others. We appreciate your openness endlessly - thank you, Lindsey! See you soon on the Artemis tour!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to stay mentally and physically strong on tour
• How Lindsey creates a family environment while touring
• Practices your craft before touring
• Lindsey changing her environment for a mental break
(00:00) Intro
(3:03) Patreon
(3:48) Lindsey gets on the bus
(4:48) Rehearsals for Tour
(8:12) How Adam and Lindsey met
(11:27) Universal Studios on the 4th
(14:31) Fostering a loving community on tour
(17:38) What Lindsey learned during COVID
(25:13) Practicing for shows
(29:40) Prep work for a tour
(31:00) Being kind to yourself
(36:40) How Lindsey stays healthy on tour
(39:30) Cereal Party
(42:45) Staying mentally strong on tour
(49:04) Wrap up notes
(52:04) Shower Shoes
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Touring with blink-182's Mark Hoppus & Robert Ortiz
01:05:54
Please welcome blink-182's Mark Hoppus, and his stage-right hand man - Robert Ortiz, to the podcast! Mark and Robert have worked together for 15+ years, a feat only most of us can hope to accomplish in our professional careers. Neil has looked up to Mark since he was a kid, his knuckles prove it. I am a fan of Robert Orbitz not only because of what he does - but how he does it. He is also a photographer and a very good one at that. We are both thankful to have them give us an hour of time out of their busy lives. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we do.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Mark and Robert found success in touring
• A day in the life of the blink-182 camp on the road
• The importance of building a good working relationship
• Tips for making the job look easy
(0:00) Intro
(3:30) Mark and Robert get on the bus
(5:28) Mark’s start to touring
(6:38) Robert’s start to touring
(10:10) How their paths crossed
(14:15) Building a good crew and not being dicks on tour
(19:48) Always be nice to the openers
(21:47) Partying on tour and The Ocho
(28:46) Nobody is too good for anyone when you’re on a team
(30:15) Day to day life on tour
(36:12) The crew/artist relationship
(44:56) How to improve on your skillset as a tech
(51:35) Creating a welcoming environment and tour stories
(1:01:18) Wrap up
How VIP Operates on Tour ft. Matt Jara (237 Global Inc.)
01:01:36
Matt is a VIP coordinator who is currently working at 237 Global Inc.. They help create VIP experiences for artists such as Shawn Mendes, Hella Mega Tour, and Wiz Khalifa to name a few. In today’s episode explore how artists have created bigger and better experiences for their fans and how you can work in VIP.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Matt became a VIP coordinator
• What a VIP coordinator does
• How to get on the road as a VIP coordinator
• What it’s like to work for 237 Global Inc.
(00:00) Intro
(01:49) Patreon
(02:28) Matt gets on the bus
(03:41) How Adam and Matt met
(05:55) How Matt started working as a VIP Coordinator
(07:55) What VIP experiences use to be
(16:54) The rise in popularity of VIP experiences
(21:41) 23/7 Global Global
(24:50) Who has VIP experiences on tour today
(29:44) How VIP works
(36:48) How to get on the road as a VIP coordinator
(42:15) Average day working for 23/7 Global
(47:26) Skills that transfer over to other touring jobs from VIP
(50:47) Wrap up notes
(50:52) Shower Shoes
Cultivating a Lifelong Career in the Music Industry ft. Seth Kallen (X Ambassadors, Jukebox The Ghost, Will Linley)
01:03:04
Everyone, please welcome this week’s guest to the bus - Seth Kallen! Seth manages X Ambassadors, Jukebox The Ghost, Will Linley, and Corook to name a few. I found it impressive he has been managing Jukebox The Ghost for 17 years (almost half his life)! His stories of being a part of the rise of X Ambassadors were also a pleasure to listen to. So get comfy, grab your drink of choice, and get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Seth went from wanting to be a musician to being a manager of an internationally recognized band
• Why Seth believes live music is so crucial for a particular artist
• How ‘Jungle’ and ‘Renegades’ put X Ambassadors on the map
• What happens to a band, on the back end, after a song becomes very successful
(00:00) Intro
(02:15) Patreon
(03:36) Seth gets on the bus
(05:53) Seth's path to becoming a manager
(07:57) How Seth met Jukebox The Ghost
(21:00) When Seth started working with X Ambassadors
(22:21) The songs that helped X Ambassadors grow in popularity
(30:16) How 'Jungle' became the anthem of the 2014 World Cup
(33:59) How the song ‘Renegades’ propelled X Ambassadors into area-selling shows
(35:52) The impact of syncs on an artist’s career
(39:44) Lessons learned from big songs like 'Jungle' and 'Renegades’
(46:32) Why artists need to perform live
(53:55) Wrap up notes
(56:10) Shower Shoes
Lessons From the Road ft. Ruel and Michelle Grace Hunder
00:54:51
This week we revisit my favorite setup - artist and crew! We have with us all the way from Australia - Ruel and his photographer Michelle Grace Hunder. These two have a relationship that I think everyone hopes to one day have in this industry. Michelle has been Ruel’s photographer for the past six years. It was rad to hear stories about how they bonded on the road and created a family vibe on the road. If you have not listened to Ruel’s music yet, please check it out. It is beautiful. Michelle’s work is lovely as well, with all the links below as usual. Thank you so much to Ruel and Michelle for taking time out of their busy lives to share their thoughts and ideas with us. There really is no better way to do it than going right to the source.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Ruel and Michelle work together creatively
• How family values foster a great touring environment
• The importance of the artist & crew relationship
• The challenges of touring during your teen years
(00:00) Intro
(01:56) Patreon
(03:07) MGH & Ruel get on the bus
(04:18) Shit on the bus story
(08:43) Crazy bus drivers
(10:22) How Michelle and Ruel met
(15:17) Ruel’s career when he was a kid
(19:19) What it's like for Ruel to consistently work with Michelle
(24:39) How Ruel and Michelle got to the creative teamwork, they're at now
(26:33) The age gap didn't matter when Michelle works with Ruel
(28:25) Why Ruel is so hands-on for his image
(32:35) Touring with family values
(35:59) Amsterdam Story
(38:43) Ruel's and Michelle’s connection during a live show
Record Labels 101: What Do Record Labels Do? ft. Katie Robinson (Elektra Music Group)
01:05:23
This week we welcome Katie Robinson the VP of Marketing at Electra Music Group to the podcast! Katie started her journey in the industry over 15 years ago. She has slowly climbed her way to the top and is very knowledgeable on how labels of all levels operate. In this episode she breakdowns everything we need to understand before we can go any deeper on learning about labels. I’m excited to continue our journey into understanding the different areas of the music industry and Think this episode will be a great primer for future deep dives. Thank you Katie for joining us.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Katie has been able to work with the top record labels in the country
• About the different departments that operate at a label
• What a 360 deal is and how deals are made by labels today
• How to get a job at a record label
(00:00) Intro
(02:49) Patreon
(03:30) Katie gets on the bus
(05:23) How Katie got started in the music industry
(11:05) How Katie navigated through the music industry
(13:47) Katie's first job in the music industry
(19:22) What is a record label and what is their goal
(26:04) Seeing all the pieces come together (What Katie does
(29:47) Teams on labels and how they scale
(32:30) The different departments of a label
(39:19) What is a 360 deal and how are deals different today
(43:09) What the life cycle of an album looks like
(49:27) How a couple of record labels own most other record labels
(54:19) How Katie balances work and life
(01:00:13) How to start working at a label
(01:03:21) Wrap up notes
(01:03:57) Shower Shoes
What Does a Booking Agent Do? ft Dave Shapiro (Sound Talent Group)
00:45:21
This week we have the legendary Dave Shapiro on the podcast! Dave is most well known for his relentless work ethic as a booking agent that has led to the success of countless bands. When it comes to being a booking agent - Dave is one of the best to learn from. After climbing his way to the top at The Agency Group - Dave started his own company called Sound Talent Group based out of his San Diego airport hangar. Fast forward a few years and he is running stronger than ever. His agency represents a variety of different bands and books their tours. In addition to this Dave also owns Velocity Records. Hope you guys have a blast listening to this one!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What a booking agent does
• How Dave went from selling merch at a mall kiosk to booking several successful bands
• What the differences are between a promoter and a booking agent
• How a booking agent sets up and routes the tour
(00:00) Intro
(02:14) Patreon
(02:45) Dave gets on the bus
(04:52) What does a booking agent do
(06:12) How Dave got his start in the music industry
(13:05) What it takes to be a booking agent
(15:21) Working with people you like
(17:22) When does an artist need a booking agent
(19:06) Who does the booking agent work with
(21:33) Being able to multitask
(26:30) The different aspects of being a booking agent
(29:44) How a tour is set up and routed
(37:48) Sound Talent Group
(39:14) Putting out fires the day of a show
(41:18) Velocity Records
(43:51) Shower Shoes
(44:21) Wrap up notes
There are many different ways to travel on tour. Van, Bus, Plane, Private Jet - and they all have their pros & cons. How you travel has the most significant effect on your touring life outside of where you are traveling. Join us this week as we go over the basics of how these different modes of transportations will affect your professional and personal job on the road.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How to travel on tour
• How to tour in a van and a bus
• Who tours in a private jet?
(00:00) Intro
(4:41) Overview
(6:28) Different levels of touring
(10:39) Why the different levels matter
(16:02) Adam’s embarrassing story
(17:18) Neil’s embarrassing story
(19:07) How to tour: van style
(27:04) How to tour: sprinters
(28:10) How to tour: shitty busses
(33:00) How to tour: nice busses
(41:47) How to tour: fly dates
(50:35) How to tour: boats and everything else
(52:27) Growing with or without the artist
(58:30) Learning from your mistakes
(1:04:28) Wrap up
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Justin is currently drum teching for Slipknot and was kind of enough to jump on call with us mid tour, all the way from Slovakia. Had a solid time catching up with him and hearing it’s like touring with one of the largest metal bands in the world.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How it feels to headline festivals in Europe
• What it’s like touring with a large band & crew
• How Justin and Jay Weinberg became friends
• Justin’s improvement as a drummer
(00:00) Intro
(02:16) Patreon
(02:25) Justin gets on the bus
(03:18) Justin’s current tour location
(07:47) Slipknots routing for Europe
(09:32) Building Jay’s drum set
(13:30) How Justin started working with Slipknot
(19:14) Justin's first show with Slipknot
(24:17) How many pieces make up Jay’s Slipknot drum kit
(25:20) Early mistakes Justin learned from while touring with Slipknot
(28:55) What it's like drum tech for Slipknot
(32:09) Justin's photography
(34:12) Tortilla guy
(37:11) Traveling with such a big crew
(42:47) An average day for Justin
(50:23) Wrap up notes
(50:36) How Justin has worked to this point in his career
(53:26) Jared Leto Story
(55:41) COVID 19
(59:28) Shower Shoes
Started as a Runner ft. Angie Warner (Post Malone, Jay-Z, BTS)
01:05:35
This week on the podcast let's welcome Angie Warner who is a tour manager. Angie has toured with artists such as Post Malone, Jay-Z, and is the western residency tour manager for BTS. It’s incredible how much Angie has accomplished in her 22 years in the music industry, this episode felt like Angie was telling stories around a bonfire. She’s truly one of the best at what she does and her insight of arena-filling talent is something you won’t want to miss. There’s so much to learn this week so get comfy, grab a good drink, and enjoy another week of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Angie has been able to work with some of the biggest names in the music industry
• What it’s like tour manage arena level show with Post Malone and BTS is like
• How important security becomes at larger scale music events
• The type of security measures that are needed for larger-scale music events
(00:00) Intro
(02:15) Patreon
(02:47) Angie gets on the bus
(07:47) How Angie got started in the music industry
(13:43) How to stand out as a runner
(16:56) Morals Angie lives by when teaching others in the industry
(21:10) How touring has changed over the last 20 years
(25:08) How Angie has worked with the artist she’s toured with
(32:14) What a tour manager has to do at different levels of touring
(40:47) Angie's routine on tour
(43:22) Getting a tour dog
(49:40) What security is like on arena level tours
(01:00:13) Wrap up notes
(01:01:01)Shower Shoes
Stagehand 101 ft. Kenny Barnwell (Justin Bieber, Ariana Grande, Seal)
01:14:51
Everyone welcome one of the most enthusiastic people we’ve had on the bus, Kenny Barnwell! Over the past 20 years, Kenny has worked his way up from a local stagehand to touring with Bon Jovi, Justin Bieber, and Ariana Grande. Kenny also is the co-founder of Freedom Music events, an author, and teaches online courses for crew careers. Let's get ready for this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• What someone can do to level up as a stagehand
• How Kenny went from living in his car to touring with A-list artist
• The value of working for free at the beginning in the music industry
• What Kenny believes people on the road now can do to help out new stagehands
(00:00) Intro
(03:05) Patreon
(03:59) Kenny gets on the bus
(06:12) How Kenny got started in the music industry
(17:04) Working for free
(19:31) How stagehands are hired on
(21:14) How Kenny transitioned into touring
(27:38) What is a stagehand
(33:12) It's all about who knows you
(35:10) Missteps when reaching out to someone
(40:24) Can you be a good hang on tour
(43:38) Being a stagehand is like paid training
(48:07) First steps to being hired as a local stagehand
(55:22) Leveling up from a stagehand
(01:05:37) What people on the road can do now to help new stage hands out
(01:11:00) Wrap up notes
This week we have the wonderful Lindsey McLemore on the podcast to talk about street teams. Street teams were much more popular back in the early 2000’s - however, they do still exist today in a more refined form. Lindsey is a marketing manager at The Syndicate and works with them closely to help bring labels, bands, managers’ marketing dreams to life. They have done some remarkable projects with artists such as Panic! At The Disco and LCD Soundsystem. We think street teams are a great way for anyone to get started in the music industry - so we figured we would break it down for you and teach you what exactly it is they do. I hope you enjoy this week's episode!
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How street teams help promote artists today
• About how Lindsey from working at Lollapalooza to leading a street team
• The importance of reaching out to your local promoters and venues
• How labels work with independent street teams
(00:00) Intro
(05:19) Lindsey gets on the bus
(06:39) The goal of the episode
(08:41) How Lindsey got into the music industry
(10:36) What street teams used to be like
(18:38) How Lindsey got to where she's at now
(23:19) Skills Lindsey learned early on in the office
(26:15) Street teaming for Lollapalooza
(29:25) How Lindsey started working with The Syndicate
(32:04) What do street teams do currently
(36:38) Who is The Syndicate
(41:41) Panic At The Disco Story
(50:58) How to get involved with the Syndicate
(56:51) Wrap up notes
(58:12) Shower Shoes
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Becoming a Personal Photographer ft. Conor McDonnell (Calvin Harris, Ellie Goulding)
00:48:52
This week we welcome Conor McDonnell to the bus! I have known Conor for the past ten years and seeing the accomplishments he has pulled off both professionally and personally are nothing short of impressive. In this episode, we talk about what it takes to go from touring with an artist - to working with them on a very personal level. Touring is already personal, but being the guy who goes with them to private events, parties, and everything else - that takes a true connection. We very much limit our conversations to his jobs within the music industry - but I would encourage you to check out his portfolio for some amazing images in other areas as well.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Conor became a person photographer
• The importance of always learning
• The significance of reading rooms
• How to become more than a photographer to an artist
(00:00) Intro
(02:11) Patreon
(03:02) Conor gets on the bus
(05:45) How Conor got into photography
(10:20) When Conor started touring
(11:52) When Conor met Calvin Harris
(14:10) Being able to read the room
(15:07) Being more than a photographer
(19:15) When Conor knew he made it as a photographer
(20:38) Conor saying yes a lot early in his career
(24:04) Roadblocks switching between photography styles
(25:43) Working with managers
(30:13) Different music genres operate their own way
(31:49) Being a personal photographer for Calvin Harris
(34:15) Creatively collaborating with Calvin
(35:13) Learn as you go
(37:00) Staying humble
(40:34) How to not be seen during a concert
(46:07) Wrap up notes
(46:20) Shower Shoes
How A Venue Operates ft. Joey Phillips (The Forum)
01:01:34
This week we are taking a trip down memory lane. Kind of - we are learning like the first 10 episodes. We were lucky enough to connect with Joey Phillips. Joey is the Event Manager at The Forum in Los Angeles. The Forum is a legendary 17,000 capacity, all music venue, that has been open since 1967. Joey takes us through what the heck a venue does. Because if you are like me - you usually just show up at a venue, give them your ticket - and watch the show. However for every touring job, there is a venue counterpart. The venue has to work with the touring team to advance and figure out every aspect of the show. Then on the day of - they have to put it into action. This is the first of two episodes. Next week we will go a bit more in-depth on what each job does. I hope this week can be a level up in your knowledge on what goes on inside of a venue. Maybe working at a local venue first is your path to get into the music industry. Or maybe you have been touring for a while and want to find a way to get off the road. All that info and more on this week's episode.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Joey became the event manager of The Forum
• How venues and touring crews operate together
• What it takes for a venue to run smoothly
• All of the different positions in a venue
(00:00) Intro
(01:04) Joey gets on the bus
(02:06) Why you should listen to Joey
(03:55) History of the Forum
(05:02) What Joey does at The Forum
(09:13) The Forum Club
(10:56) Positions at a venue
(18:46) How Joey navigated the music industry
(24:37) Why the venue is often overlooked
(27:30) Doing what it takes to put on a show
(28:54) What is the goal of a venue
(34:53) Facilities and Live Departments
(36:23) How touring crews and venue crews work together
Weekend Warriors ft. Mike Finn (Thomas Rhett, Dillion Francis)
00:56:20
This week on the podcast let's welcome Mike Finn who is a tour manager. Mike has toured with artists such as Mayday Parade, Dillon Francis, and Thomas Rhett. This episode has a ton of quotable moments and incredible insight for those trying to, not only tour, but tour in the country music scene. Mike really lays out how different genres of music operate and how he has adapted to each one. It’s a fun one so you won’t want to miss this week’s episode of Don’t Shit on the Bus.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• How Mike was able to accumulate different skill sets from a variety of music genres
• What Mike believes is the most important thing to do to get on your first tour
• About Mike’s transition into work in the country music world
• The importance of adapting your personality to the style of touring you are on
(00:00) Intro
(01:37) Patreon
(02:34) Mike gets on the bus
(05:29) How Mike got started in the music industry
(10:01) What skills Mike picked up while touring in the pop-punk world
(14:43) Moments that make Mike feel like he's made it
(16:53) How Mike was able to tour with a variety of different artist
(26:35) How to end a relationship with an artist on a good note
(30:08) Mike touring with Thomas Rhett
(34:25) What Mike considers before taking on a tour
(37:54) How country touring works
(43:33) Knowing when you to adapt your personality on tour
(49:41) Wrap up notes
(52:41)Shower Shoes
Mark Bubb is the Co-owner of Killer Merch - the company that provides merch, for tours. Mark comes from the music world but his business has expanded to all corners of the entertainment industry. Killer Merch works with Ninja, Kevin Hart, and Jeffree Star Cosmetics - just to name a few. Mark played a huge role in both of our careers and it was amazing to catch up with him and hear what he has been up to. We have told you about the life/ job of selling merch on the road - but where do the merch guys get their merch from? This is where Mark comes into play. We hope you enjoy this conversation as much as we did!
In this episode of the Don't Shit on the Bus podcast we will learn:
• Mark’s journey to success in the music industry
• A day in the life of running a merch company in 2021
• Networking through the music industry OFF the road
• Tips for being a successful business person
(00:00) Intro
(10:12) Patreon
(10:46) Mark gets on the bus
(11:41) How Neil and Adam know Mark
(14:00) Wanting to come up in the music world
(14:27) Advice for up and coming tour dogs
(15:14) Street teams and how Adam got started
(16:57) The appeal of working with people that tour
(19:01) There are so many ways to tour today
(20:15) Jobs content makers need on tour
(22:19) Getting merch into retail
(23:19) Killer Merch
(25:10) Jeffree Starr’s impact on the merch industry
(37:23) Not being able to hang with successful friends
(42:42) Traps to avoid
(51:15) What makes Killer Merch unique?
(58:59) It’s all about strategy
(1:10:07) Patreon Questions
(1:13:09) Wrap up notes
(1:14:42) Shower Shoes
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What Does A Drum Tech Do On Tour? ft. Tanner Wayne of In Flames
01:00:30
Tanner Wayne joins us this week to discuss everything he knows about working as a drum tech. Tanner’s career path over the past 15 years has allowed him to learn both the artist and tech side of working with drums. Tanner has worked for over 15 artists as a drum tech during his career so far - some of which are Of Mice & Men, Atreyu, & Miguel. He has also played in Chiodos, Scary Kids Scaring Kids - and is currently a member of the band In Flames.
In this episode of the Don’t Shit On The Bus podcast we will learn:
• Tanner’s journey to success in the touring world
• A day in the life of a drum tech on the road
• The importance of knowing your stock
• Tips for being a successful drum tech
(0:00) Intro
(3:15)Tanner gets on the bus
(8:00) The importance of being a good hang
(11:25) Don’t be a punisher !
(13:30) How Tanner started touring
(20:37) Skills needed to be a good drum tech
(25:12) What’s a carnet?
(and some travel stories)
(29:21) Daily responsibilities
(36:25) Self-care on the road
(40:38) Doors and downtime
(47:00) Showtime and putting out fires
(53:35) Break it down and load it out
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