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04 May 2021Ep. 28: Why We Need to Celebrate and Continue to Build Our Kids’ Resilience00:25:42

This last year has been extremely challenging for all of us. We know that stress, anxiety, and depression have increased tremendously during the COVID-19 pandemic and through personal experience, many of us have seen the difficulties in distance learning. But today I’m shifting gears. I don’t have a guest to interview today because I felt compelled to celebrate the resilience we have seen in children through this last year.

 

In today’s episode, I offer five things we can do as parents and educators to help develop resilience in our kids. Many have shown that they have more resilience than we ever thought possible, but as we re-emerge into normalcy, how can we continue to celebrate this development and support it further? 

 

Show Notes:

[1:14] - A year into the pandemic, we continue to put a big emphasis on stress and the difficulties children and families have been experiencing.

[2:31] - Although stress and difficulties have increased significantly during this last year, Karen is taking this episode to celebrate the accomplishments of children.

[3:14] - “Adversity births opportunity and innovation.” Dr. Wilson has seen this in her own children, their friends, and the clients she works with.

[3:45] - Dr. Wilson shares an excerpt from an article she had the opportunity to contribute to. 

[4:54] - What is most important to children is that they feel loved and valued. Karen shares the impactful statement of a family member that children are more resilient than we think.

[5:46] - We can change the wiring of our brains through experiences we expose it to. Dr. Wilson describes how the brain can be resilient.

[6:46] - Karen gives five things we can do to help develop resilience in our children starting with the first: Strengthen our own relationship with them.

[8:11] - We can also help kids navigate friendships as they are re-emerging into the world from social isolation.

[8:57] - Adequate sleep is another thing we can provide to kids to help build resilience.

[10:18] - The reason sleep is connected to resilience is because sleep increases the capacity to regulate emotions.

[11:14] - Too little sleep can exacerbate the stress level we already have and this is prominent in children who are feeling the stress of learning difficulties.

[11:33] - Sufficient physical activity is another thing we can promote with children to develop resilience. Dr. Wilson describes how this can affect mood and anxiety.

[13:22] - Any physical activity is a benefit, but Karen explains why sports improve executive functioning skills too.

[15:02] - Sports also provide opportunities for social bonding with peers and give children a sense of pride.

[16:44] - Another factor that Dr. Wilson shares is screen and media exposure. This was talked about in more detail in a previous episode. The more time spent on the screen is less time engaging in physical activity.

[18:00] - We want to nurture and continue to nurture a growth mindset in our children. Dr. Wilson contrasts this with a fixed mindset and gives examples of each.

[20:25] - We need to help develop executive functioning skills within our children while they are developing. 

[21:14] - Mindfulness is incredibly important as well. Mindfulness meditation is proven to help focus and regulation of emotions.

[22:08] - Research has shown that optimism is one of the key characteristics of resilient people. As parents and educators, we need to nurture a sense of optimism.

[23:10] - Although there have been struggles and increased stress over the past year, many children have shown a tremendous amount of resilience throughout this last year and we need to celebrate that.



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02 Jul 2024Ep. 192: Reimagining Education for All Students with Sylvia Barreto Benites00:41:41

Today, we have a truly inspiring guest joining us from the heart of the jungle in Costa Rica. She’s the director of the Renaissance Institute (iREN), a trailblazing educational program that is redefining how we approach learning for all students, especially those with learning differences. We’re excited to dive deep into her insights and experiences on how she combines neuroscience, psychology, and pedagogy to create a transformative learning environment.

Sylvia’s journey began in 2020 when she established a small homeschool for teenagers to help them navigate distance learning during the pandemic. This initiative quickly grew into the Renaissance Institute, a unique educational environment in beautiful Costa Rica. 

Throughout our conversation, Sylvia will share her motivations and the personal experiences that drove her to build this unique program. She created the kind of educational environment she wished she had as a child, which resonates deeply with many parents today. We’ll explore how differentiation and a sense of safety are crucial in education, yet often missing. Sylvia believes in creating spaces where students feel safe to make mistakes and learn from them, an essential component in fostering resilience.

By the end of this episode, you'll have a new perspective on how education can be transformed to meet the needs of every child. Sylvia's story is a powerful reminder that with the right mindset and approach, we can create learning environments that not only educate but also heal and empower our students.

 

Show Notes:

[2:17] - It is a time of real opportunity for change in education right now.

[3:18] - Sylvia describes the motivations she has had in building this unique learning environment in Costa Rica.

[5:05] - In 2020, Sylvia established a small homeschool for teenagers in Costa Rica to help them navigate through distance learning. It grew into iREN.

[8:01] - Students are highly involved in creating and establishing their own learning environment in a way that establishes trust.

[10:12] - It is important for the attention to be given to the students who are doing the right thing. A lot of neurodivergent students are accustomed to being yelled at.

[12:09] - Sylvia has created the program that she wished she had had as a child. Many parents feel the same way.

[13:40] - Differentiation is important, but we can’t differentiate so much that there is no normalcy.

[15:11] - Another missing piece in education is love and a sense of safety.

[17:57] - Create a space where students can make mistakes.

[20:50] - Students want to learn impulse control but often feel like they can’t.

[23:47] - It is a reality that many parents are afraid of their child and fearful that they cannot support them.

[26:33] - What brings a student happiness? Can we create a sense of acceptance and well-being where a child feels happy in their learning environment?

[27:50] - Diagnoses are important, but many people focus on the negatives which creates a sense of hopelessness.

[30:10] - Sylvia is confident that healing herself and changing her own mindset was the first step in creating iREN for students and families.

[34:01] - Children are struggling, which is what it all boils down to. What can we do?

[38:10] - Grades do not typically motivate a student. Parents care more about grades than students do. We need to help students find their intrinsic motivation.

 

About Our Guest:

Sylvia serves as the founder and director of the Renaissance Institute in Guanacaste, Costa Rica. Established in 2020, the Renaissance Institute (iREN) aims to engage children beyond screens by inviting them to explore a 33-acre forested campus. iREN integrates neuroscience, psychology, and pedagogy to unleash the potential of children facing challenges. The program prioritizes children's social-emotional requirements, cultivating resilience and hands-on learning tailored to each child's unique learning style. With small class sizes, the institute personalizes learning plans to cater to individual educational needs.

Sylvia holds a Master's in Education from Dowling College in New York, specializing in neuroscience and teaching. Being a triple threat herself (dyslexic, ADHD, and defiant), she utilized her understanding of the brain to unlock her own potential, instigating a desire to assist others in achieving the same.

 

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The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson.

 

02 Aug 2022Ep. 92: Executive Functioning Skills Over the Summer with Michelle Porjes00:30:14

While the summertime is a great time for a break, it is also an opportunity to stretch and practice executive functioning skills. Executive functioning skills are often connected to success at school, but in reality, they are necessary for all aspects of life. We’ve discussed executive functioning skills in previous episodes, but today’s conversation is all about how we as parents can use this down time in the summer to help our children improve these skills before they head back to school.

Today’s guest for this conversation is Michelle Porjes, an educational psychologist who is passionate about executive functioning. She provides a plethora of great ideas for these weeks in the summer leading up to a new school year and reminds us that practicing executive functioning skills does not have to look like schoolwork. Because these are skills are necessary for all aspects of life, practicing them could look like playing board games and even planning vacations.

Listen for ways you can practice these skills with your kids at home.

 

Show Notes:

[2:49] - How does Michelle explain what executive functioning is? She helps people manage their time, their stuff, and information.

[4:07] - Executive functioning isn’t study skills. It is much more than that.

[5:50] - You can practice some things over the summer when there’s not as much chaos.

[6:51] - Structure and checklists are so helpful.

[8:06] - There is a benefit to some intellectual work over the summer as well like reading and writing.

[9:36] - It doesn’t have to be schoolwork. Intellectual stimulation can come from a lot of real world experiences.

[11:01] - Family games are extremely beneficial to executive functioning, but are also fun and great for family time.

[12:39] - While we do read in school, reading shouldn’t be tied to school. Reading happens everywhere.

[13:44] - We function in relation to other people. Kids need to engage with executive functioning with communication and practice.

[15:57] - When you go on a trip, even for just a weekend, involve your kids in the planning.

[18:08] - August is a weird month with consuming thoughts of the upcoming school year.

[19:09] - Before buying school supplies, see what you already have. Do this with your child.

[21:35] - You might think your schedule is set, but things could change. Model flexibility.

[23:41] - Carve out time for family time to help with anxiety about the upcoming year.

[25:08] - Kids should be included in the planning. This not only gets them excited and gives them some control, but also helps with executive functioning skills.

[26:47] - There are a lot of factors to consider when planning extracurricular activities.

[28:30] - Michelle posts a lot of articles and blog posts on a variety of topics. She also has a lot of resources on her website and offers consultations.

 

About Our Guest:

Michelle is a licensed educational psychologist and a credentialed school psychologist in the state of California. She also is a member of the Association of Educational Therapists. She has worked in the private school world for over 23 years where she specialized in consulting, case management, supervision, leadership, and program development.

Currently, Michelle has her own practice where she specializes in executive functioning coaching and helping experienced educators establish tutoring and educational support services that thrive. She routinely works with individuals of all ages and presents workshops and trainings on executive functioning coaching.  

 

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04 Oct 2022Ep. 101: How Parent Education and Perseverance Made the Difference with Raja Marhaba00:53:00

Today’s guest is a force in the special education space and her journey began as a parent of a special needs child. Raja Marhaba joins the conversation today to tell you about her traumatic experiences navigating the special education system and how her journey led her to create The Jonathan Foundation.

The Jonathan Foundation for Children With Learning Disabilities is a non-profit organization that raises funds for parents who can’t afford assessments for their children. In many unfortunate situations, a child’s struggles go unnoticed, undiagnosed, and without support for too long and that wasted time impacts their education and their future.

This conversation with Raja will put you in her shoes as a parent who has learned through the eyes of her own children. She hopes that, through the work she does with The Jonathan Foundation, fewer families will experience the challenges she faced and more families will get the support they need.

 

Show Notes:

[1:50] - Welcome to the show, Raja!

[3:15] - Raja’s experience began 26 years ago and she has a parent’s perspective.

[5:27] - As a new mom, she didn’t know how to navigate the special education process. But, she knew her child better than anyone and she learned to be her child’s best advocate.

[7:16] - At the time, Raja found that not every piece of information was given to her.

[8:15] - Raja realized that not everything that was suggested was happening at school to help her son, Jonathan.

[9:57] - Raja describes the journey of learning her son has dyslexia.

[11:37] - He lost a lot of confidence, but acting classes helped to build it back up.

[12:42] - Raja had a lot of questions and lost faith in the school system.

[14:54] - This experience set Raja on a new path. She knew she needed to fight and advocate for her children. She sees this as a turning point in her life.

[16:35] - Back then, there was no Google. Raja’s resources for information were limited, but many of the same problems exist today.

[19:38] - This process and the lack of understanding leads to wasted time.

[20:53] - Because a psychologist took the time to explain and answer her questions, Raja understood the data from assessments.

[21:57] - The assessments could cost a family up to $15,000.

[23:55] - It is important for parents to have a professional in their corner. Raja describes some situations where advocacy was crucial.

[25:57] - Raja focused on assessments with The Jonathan Foundation because of her experience with the huge cost of assessments for her sons.

[27:23] - This experience hurt her family and her own mental health.

[28:20] - Raja describes what she learned about her children and what she learned from them.

[30:11] - Understanding her children opened up the world for her.

[32:05] - Having one child who took so much of her attention, Raja’s youngest son was impacted.

[34:51] - The sooner the better when it comes to an assessment.

[36:29] - If you feel that your child is struggling and the school has said that their  evaluation revealed no difficulties, you can request another assessment.

[39:02] - The data from an assessment tells a story.

[40:41] - Donations can be made to the Jonathan Foundation to help children and families without the funds to afford a quality assessment.

[43:29] - Sometimes schools are missing a piece to the puzzle without an assessment.

[44:27] - Raja is currently writing a book and she provides a sneak peek.

[49:57] - Raja’s book will connect you with her story; she hopes that others can learn from her experience.

 

About Our Guest:

Raja B. Marhaba is the Founder and President of The Jonathan Foundation for Children with Learning Disabilities, Inc. The motivation for establishing The Jonathan Foundation was driven by her personal struggles with having two children with disabilities and the multiple battles she endured to obtain appropriate special education and related services from their school district over a period of eight years. The result: eight due process complaint filings, including a hearing; an appeal to the Federal Ninth Circuit District Court; as well as periods of extreme financial hardship from the cost of paying for private assessments, specialized interventions, and placements, retaining legal representation, and witness fees. Thus, Raja envisioned The Jonathan Foundation to be the vehicle she would use to assist families, like her own, in dealing with a "broken" special education system, "one child at a time". Since its inception in 2001, The Jonathan Foundation has provided families of children and adolescents with various types of disabilities with information, resources, referrals, and direct advocacy services by Raja in both special education and regional center matters.

 

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The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson.

27 Jun 2023Ep. 139: Environmental Changes You Can Make to Support a Child’s Learning with Lindsay Astor Grant00:45:14

The end of a school year is a great time to reimagine learning environments for the next academic year. While that may seem like a topic only applicable to teachers and their classrooms, these redesign ideas are amazing additions to a child’s home as well.

Today’s guest is Lindsay Astor Grant, a pediatric occupational therapist and founder of Learning Redesigned. At Learning Redesigned, Lindsay helps teachers and parents reimagine the learning space with the mission of partnering with schools to help create and sustain the optimal learning potential of their students. 

In our conversation today, Lindsay describes what changes we can make to a child’s environment to ensure that the brain is in the readiness stage for learning. And while we are preparing for the next academic year, this is the perfect time to start thinking about what we can do to help support the needs of our children and students.

 

Show Notes:

[2:52] - The learning environment is often overlooked but it is so important and could contribute to dysregulation.

[4:34] - Lindsay did a great amount of research and observation about the classroom environment impacting student behavior.

[6:01] - Behavior is communication.

[7:38] - When beginning the redesign process, Lindsay starts small in creating spaces that help children stay as even as possible internally.

[9:12] - Rather than focusing on the behavior itself, we need to think about the sensory issue that contributes to the behavior.

[11:01] - Everyone, including neurotypical adults, have a threshold on how much we can handle before we are in sensory overload.

[12:41] - Understimulation can also cause behavioral reactions from children.

[15:27] - In classroom and even home environment redesign, Lindsay creates a space that is not punitive that allows a child to come down from overstimulation.

[17:24] - Providing a safe space also gives students validation for their feelings.

[20:28] - It’s not white walls and white furniture, it’s more neutral colors that are calming and peaceful in the classroom.

[22:16] - Let the background be neutral and the color come from the artwork.

[23:48] - The majority of problems come from transitions.

[24:50] - Visual schedules are not only helpful in the classroom but in the home as well.

[28:01] - Creating a “zen zone” is something that Lindsay has done for students in as early as pre-k classrooms.

[30:02] - Many teachers are worried that students will just spend their whole day in the zen zone, but Lindsay says that if it is done in conjunction with others, that won’t be a problem.

[33:24] - When a kid is uncomfortable, they won’t be able to take in the information you need them to learn.

[35:18] - Using the same or similar supports as the classroom at home creates consistency for the child.

[38:29] - Sometimes, the entire school will adopt this approach and the impact is noticeable especially over time.

[41:06] - Another effect of this is a classroom culture that fosters acceptance and understanding.

 

About Our Guest:

Lindsay Astor Grant is a licensed pediatric occupational therapist and owner of Learning Redesigned. She earned her M.A. in Occupational Therapy from the University of Southern California and has advanced training in Sensory Integration, Executive Function, Motor Skill Development, and Classroom Design. Lindsay has more than two decades of experience in the field. She began her career as an OT for the Los Angeles Unified School District and in 2007, she started Children First Therapy, providing private in-home and school-based occupational therapy services. In 2018, Lindsay founded Learning Redesigned, working as an independent consultant for schools. She leads staff professional development sessions, as well as parent education seminars on topics including Executive Function, Sensory Integration, Classroom Layout and Design, Movement-Based Learning, and Motor Development. 

 

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09 Feb 2021Ep. 16: The Independent Study Option with Maya Varga00:30:01

Welcome to the first episode in a short series about alternative academic programs. There are so many parents that I see whose children are struggling in traditional learning environments and they’re looking for options. So let’s explore some of those options over the next three episodes, starting with the independent study option.

 

Today’s guest is Maya Varga. She is the Director at Hayutin & Associates which is a boutique education company headquartered in Los Angeles. Hayutin provides students with support in executive functioning, content tutoring, educational therapy, and design and implementation of independent study programs. 

 

Is an independent study program right for your learner? Listen on as Maya describes what an independent study is, what types of students would benefit from this type of schooling, and how Hayutin & Associates curates the program to fit each individual student and their needs.

 

Show Notes:

[2:15] - Karen is seeing a lot of students who would benefit from independent study programs and Maya sees many of Dr. Wilson’s clients at Hayutin & Associates.

[2:39] - Independent study and homeschool can and sometimes are used interchangeably, but Maya explains that independent study is preferred because the student is still enrolled through an accredited program.

[3:40] - At Hayutin & Associates, Maya meets with families to help determine the right program for their learner and really creates a personalized path for them.

[4:41] - A traditional homeschool PSA gives families flexibility in curriculum choices and students are not at all enrolled in a specific program.

[5:41] - Every student is different and everyone has different needs. Maya explains that they work a lot with athletes and children who are performing artists who need the flexibility of an independent study program.

[6:05] - The first thing that Maya looks for is accreditation, especially in the high school level.

[6:22] - The next thing looked at is a calendar. A self-paced calendar is a perk of an independent study program.

[6:51] - Another thing that Maya looks for is the number of classes a student needs to be a full time student. 

[7:49] - Because of Covid, if you were to search for online education programs, there would be an overwhelming amount of results. Maya explains that if you don’t research them, the programs may not be accredited programs or a good fit for you.

[8:32] - Hayutin & Associates completes a consultation with families and finds programs that would fit the needs of each individual student and provide options.

[9:19] - Because a lot of independent study programs do not have a lot of live instruction opportunities, Hayutin also provides that extra support through a teacher team.

[10:53] - The challenge of a one-on-one environment is there is nowhere to hide. These programs are great for the student who needs more support and guidance.

[11:31] - Pre-pandemic, Hayutin was also involved in helping students with the socialization piece of their school days.

[12:40] - For the students who don’t have many opportunities for socialization, Hayutin tries to provide groups and outlets to broaden their world.

[13:43] - Maya explains that independent study programs allow students to work ahead in some areas and slow down in others depending on their needs. They do not need to wait for others in a class to keep moving forward.

[14:39] - The first step in determining if an independent study program is right for a student is to assess what is or isn’t working about the traditional learning environment and what their needs are.

[15:37] - Some students go through an independent study program with Hayutin for a certain amount of time and shift back into a traditional learning environment. This could be for preparing for the next grade level or for remediation.

[16:56] - Hayutin has a very robust team that includes educational therapists that can assist students with learning differences and make the curriculum accessible to them.

[18:07] - Student interests also play a big role in the student’s experience with independent learning.

[19:32] - Maya has been surprised with the increase in students in elementary school students in independent study programs and shares that they are thriving.

[20:51] - Maya shares a story of a brave student who shifted to independent study her junior year of high school.

[22:10] - Due to Covid-19, Maya sees less of a stigma surrounding the idea of independent study programs and homeschooling.

[23:52] - Hayutin’s goal is to maximize the time students have and this includes any interventions that might have been crammed into their school day in a brick and mortar classroom.

[25:30] - Maya strongly believes that all students would benefit from an independent study program because they are so individualized. She describes different scenarios of students that these work for.

[27:08] - This mode of instruction also helps eliminate distractions for many students as compared to a full classroom. The program is curated for each student.




About Our Guest:

Maya Varga is the Director at Hayutin & Associates which is a boutique education company headquartered in Los Angeles. Hayutin provides students with support in executive functioning, content tutoring, educational therapy, and design and implementation of independent study programs. 

 

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18 Jun 2024Ep. 190: Should Your Teen Take a Gap Year? with Julia Rogers00:31:35

In this episode, we’re exploring something that is often misunderstood and rarely talked about: gap years. Many parents and students don’t really know exactly what a gap year is or how taking one could be the right choice for them. So today, we are exploring the benefits and considerations of gap years for teens and young adults with learning differences. I’m thrilled to introduce our guest, Julia Rogers, a professional gap year counselor and founder of EnRoute Counseling. Julia is an expert on this topic, and she’s here to shed light on how gap years can be particularly beneficial for those who learn and think differently.

A gap year is more than just a break from academics; it’s an intentional period of personal growth supported by diverse learning opportunities. We have a lot of misconceptions about what gap years really are, so having Julia break it down will provide a lot to think about. Over the past 15 years, the reasons people choose to take a gap year have evolved, and Julia will share some common motivations behind this decision. She will also discuss the unique benefits that gap years can offer to different types of students, including the opportunity to develop social skills and catch up, especially in the post-pandemic world.

The ultimate goal is to guide our young people into a life of fulfillment. Join us as we dive into the world of gap years with Julia Rogers, and discover if this might be the right path for your teen to thrive.

 

Show Notes:

[3:17] - A gap year is an intentional period of personal growth supported by learning opportunities.

[4:35] - Over the last 15 years, the reasons people choose to take a gap year have shifted and changed. Julia shares a lot of common ones.

[5:59] - The benefits are a lot different for different types of students.

[7:23] - Benefits can also include “catching up” and developing social skills, especially now post-pandemic.

[8:45] - When working with her students, Julia sets three types of goals with them: personal, practical, and professional.

[11:01] - There are endless possibilities of what a gap year could look like.

[12:04] - If a young adult knows they want to be college bound, it is possible to apply and defer, or they can wait till after their gap year to begin applying.

[15:47] - The goal is to guide our young people into a life of fulfillment.

[17:48] - Julia describes gap year programs and what they offer.

[20:16] - What role should parents play in planning or supporting the plan for a gap year?

[23:45] - Give yourself the permission to explore nontraditional plans and paths for success.

[24:32] - There are some reasons that a gap year is not recommended, including certain scholarships or financial aid.

[26:59] - Julia lists the different types of gap year programming opportunities that could benefit students with learning differences.

[29:24] - A gap year is a great time for students to “get out of their bubble.” That means different things for different students.

 

About Our Guest:

Julia Rogers is an internationally recognized speaker, entrepreneur, and expert in experiential education with over 14 years of experience as a professional gap year counselor. She is the founder of EnRoute Consulting, a socially responsible enterprise aimed at fueling the gap year movement and cultivating a generation of compassionate, driven, and resourceful global citizens.

Julia partners with educators, service-learning organizations, non-profits, government entities and families around the world to develop creative educational pathways that result in young adults being better prepared to succeed in life and work. Julia is a TEDx speaker, a podcast host and President Emeritus of the Gap Year Association, a US-based nonprofit dedicated to the intentional growth of the gap year option through research, standards-setting and advocacy efforts.

 

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The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson.

 

27 Aug 2024Ep. 200: The Ten Most Impactful Episodes: Celebrating 200 Episodes00:11:52

Welcome to the 200th episode of the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast! I am so excited to celebrate this milestone with you. This episode is a celebration and a look back on some of the most memorable and impactful episodes along this 200 episode journey. 

We’ve got some really great updates and surprises coming soon! Be sure to check out past episodes that highlight the expertise and support in our communities. Thank you for your constant support! Please consider leaving a review and rating wherever you listen to the podcast.

Let’s dive into some of our most downloaded episodes.

Show Notes:

[1:29] - Number 10: Unlocking Potential: A Dyslexia Journey with Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey is an episode about the guest’s personal experiences with dyslexia as a student in Ghana.

[2:18] - Number 9: Slow Processing Speed with Dr. Ellen Braaten resonated with so many parents and educators about an often misunderstood issue.

[3:04] - Number 8: Your Child’s Anxiety: When to Worry with Dr. John Piacentini helps parents differentiate between typical worries and more serious anxiety issues.

[4:03] - Number 7: How to Develop Social Thinking Skills with Michelle Garcie Winner highlights the guest’s practical approach to social cognition.

[4:52] - Number 6: Turning Kids’ Passions and Enthusiasms Into Superpowers with Dr. Barry Prizant reminds us of every child’s potential and superpowers.

[5:40] - Number 5: Key Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD features Dr. Russell Barkley’s expertise and a roadmap for parents.

[6:23] - Number 4: Straight Talk About ADHD in Girls with Dr. Stephen Hinshaw has been a game-changer for parents.

[7:15] - Number 3: Overcoming Dyslexia and Addressing the Reading Crisis with Dr. Sally Shaywitz is an episode with a pioneer whose work and dedication has inspired many to take action.

[8:09] - Number 2: A Non-Medication Treatment for Children with ADHD with Dr. Sandra Loo gives parents hope and alternative support for their children.

[9:13] - Number 1: Helping Kids Understand Their Amazing Brains with Dr. Liz Angoff has empowered many to embrace their differences and recognize their strengths.

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09 Jul 2024Ep. 193: Independent College Consultants: Who Needs One and When?00:33:32

Summer is here, and many graduates are looking into the college application process. If you’re not sure where to start, a college consultant can help make this stressful period much easier for students and parents alike. Today, we dive into everything about independent college consultants. What exactly are they? What is their role, and how do they help our students?

We’ll explore who might benefit from hiring an independent consultant and address the specific needs of students with learning and thinking differences, such as dyslexia and ADHD. I’m joined by independent college consultant Matthew Hayutin, Founder and Partner at Hayutin Education. Matthew began his career as a classroom teacher and private educational therapist, working with students of all ages and learning profiles. He has extensive experience as a college consultant and homeschool teacher.

If you’re not familiar with the role of a college consultant, Matthew breaks it down with insights into how the consultant's role can be customized to meet the individual needs of students and their families. College consultants can assist with researching and vetting schools and programs, helping to ensure students find the best fit, and navigating the application and admissions process.

Matthew is passionate about his position and emphasizes the importance of helping students find ways to contribute and become active citizens. He discusses using targeted questions to understand students' needs and explore options that facilitate a smooth transition from high school to college.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone navigating the complexities of college admissions. Tune in and discover why investing in an independent college consultant could be the game-changer your learner needs.

Show Notes:

[00:03] -  Public School students may have a student counselor with 500 students, and the connection points are far and few between. Having someone who could work individually with the student and get to know them is very valuable.

[05:19] -  Another reason that a consultant could be helpful is that they are available in the summer when your counselor isn't. A lot of work can get done in the summer to build momentum and create a runway for the fall.

[08:17] -  Having someone who can really drill into what will help the student and assist with the process. 

[09:19] -  Why would someone seek out an independent college consultant? There are multiple reasons including access and availability, especially over the summer, expertise, skill set, and bandwidth.

[10:28] -  The role of the college consultant. A strong consultant can help students create a list of schools that will accept them with open arms and ones that might be a bit of a stretch but worth the effort.

[13:53] -  They also help build executive functioning instead of doing everything for the student.

[14:12] -  The goal isn't just to get in. It's to find a place where the students thrive. A consultant can help find a good match for an environment where the student will thrive and ultimately graduate.

[16:54] -  Asking questions is part of the process of working with an independent consultant.

[19:47] -  What can we expect in terms of accommodation for students who have unique needs. 

[23:11] -  One of the advantages of working with a college consultant is they spend time with the student and get to know their individual needs.

[25:58] -  Questions to ask when trying to determine if a consultant is a good fit is the amount of access, feedback, and timeline. 

[30:02] -  Working with an independent college consultant can be a valuable investment for many families trying to work through the complexity of future college. 

About Our Guest:

Matthew Hayutin is a Founder & Partner at Hayutin Education, a company that he founded with his sister, Amy Hayutin Contreras. Hayutin is your partner in education offering executive functioning, educational therapy, independent study, tutoring, test prep, and college consulting. They assist students and parents in making good choices in education and having a wide array of educational possibilities. 

Matthew earned his advanced B.A. from Occidental College in English and Comparative Literary Studies in 1992 and his Master of Education with high honors from Pepperdine University in 1997. He also pursued additional studies in English, film, and creative writing at the University of Pennsylvania, NYU and UCLA. Matthew began his career as a classroom teacher and private educational therapist in 1997, working with students of all ages and learning profiles. Matthew also has extensive experience as a college consultant and homeschool teacher.

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27 Feb 2024Ep. 174: How to Empower Different Thinkers with Dr. Yael Rothman and Dr. Katia Fredriksen00:33:43

Welcome back to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast where we are diving into a topic that is especially important for families raising children and teens who learn and think differently. Today's episode is particularly special as we explore empowering children and teens with ADHD and other learning differences by helping them understand their brains and embrace their unique gifts.

I am joined by Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman, pediatric neuropsychologists from Maryland, who bring a wealth of knowledge and insights into this often misunderstood area. They share their journey of writing their recent book Different Thinkers: ADHD, a resource designed specifically for elementary-aged children and their families. We learn about the motivation behind creating this resource and the importance of not keeping diagnoses a secret from children but rather empowering them with knowledge about their developing brains.

Throughout our conversation, we discuss the misconceptions surrounding ADHD and other learning differences, and the need to focus on strengths and not limitations. Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman share the struggles that children face in a world not built for different thinkers and offer some strategies for families to celebrate differences.

 

Show Notes:

[1:50] - The book Different Thinkers: ADHD is unique as it is written for elementary-aged children. They didn’t have a resource for families, so they made it themselves.

[4:26] - Adults tend to underestimate children and how much they realize that they learn differently. Don’t keep their diagnosis a secret.

[6:51] - We need to take the more effective path of demonstrating how a learning difference can be a gift.

[8:34] - There are a lot of misconceptions around diagnoses.

[10:28] - Attention levels wax and wane for the average neurotypical person, but there is a difference between those experiences and those who have ADHD.

[12:30] - Standardized tests and questionnaires are sometimes frowned upon, but they have a helpful purpose.

[14:10] - Kids can and should learn that their brains are still developing and may develop differently than their peers.

[17:20] - The world was not built for different thinkers.

[22:51] - Research shows that children with ADHD receive more negative feedback than their peers.

[24:55] - Different Thinkers: ADHD is intended to be a resource for families to talk to their child about a diagnosis. Drs. Rothman and Fredriksen suggest ways to use it.

[27:21] - Children can read and listen about the characters in the book who are experiencing ADHD like they are.

[30:06] - Celebrating differences is key.

[31:31] - The work that neuropsychologists do is important, but it isn’t always accessible to everyone.

 

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Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman are both pediatric neuropsychologists in Maryland who specialize in comprehensive evaluations for children, adolescents, and young adults with a wide range of conditions that impact learning, behavior, and/or socioemotional functioning, providing families with a road map to support their children. They recently published their first book, Different Thinkers: ADHD, and share an Instagram account (@neuropsychmomdocs). Dr. Fredriksen trained at Princeton University and the University of Massachusetts Boston. She lives with her family in Arlington, Virginia. Dr. Rothman trained at the University of Michigan and Ferkauf Graduate School of Psychology. She lives with her family in Washington, D.C.

 

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05 Oct 2021Ep. 50: Supporting ALPS Kids with Carol Kauffman00:37:10

One in five children struggles with learning, processing, or has attention issues. Not all of these children fit into the box of a specific diagnosis and as we’ve talked about before, many areas of difficulty overlap. Some children fall into a category called ALPS (Attention, Language Processing, and Sensorimotor), a term coined by today’s guest Carol Kauffman.

 

Carol has over 40 years of experience in the child development field, and in today’s episode, she describes her journey in discovering the gaps in diagnoses and the children who fell through without services. She generously offers her assistance now in retirement and emphasizes the importance of developing a strong team with parents and families as they support their children. Long before the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast, Carol contributed numerous articles to the website and they have become some of the most-read articles to date, which goes to show just how many parents, families, and educators need to know how to help ALPS kids.

 

Show Notes:

[1:43] - Welcome to the podcast, Carol!

[3:16] - ALPS is not an official diagnosis. Carol has coined the term and describes how she discovered this gap in diagnoses.

[5:09] - In the 1980s, a colleague received a grant and came to Carol to work together and develop a team.

[6:27] - Her team implemented the Attention-Behavior-Language Evaluation (ABLE) clinic and she describes the impact of a multidisciplinary approach.

[7:45] - What they found with the vast majority of children is that they all had very different issues in different areas. Minor deficits added up for them.

[8:50] - The acronym ALPS stuck and is an umbrella for a lot of children.

[11:39] - Carol has learned so much from the children in the clinic. She describes the process, including the importance of having parents involved.

[13:59] - It is important to not only validate the struggles of the child, but to validate the parents as well.

[15:37] - Carol gave parents very detailed reports and explained everything, but realized that families were very overwhelmed.

[17:00] - Carol describes her strategy in giving parents small to-do list items to “get the ball rolling.”

[19:12] - Using graphic organizers, Carol created the ABC Treatment Triangle.

[21:29] - Carol began collecting strategies and in her travels, she learned a lot from the children she worked with.

[22:51] - When a child has a variety of issues that overlap, parents need to be involved and educated.

[24:44] - By relating to the parents of the children she worked with as a parent herself, she made them a significant member of the team as well.

[25:20] - Carol explains the difference between primary and secondary therapy.

[27:28] - Systems also need a lot of change, such as classroom acoustics.

[29:43] - Sharing information empowers parents and educators to help children with interventions.

[31:48] - Research shows that it takes many years for changes to take place.

[33:15] - Carol shares strategies to use with children and provides resources.

 

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Carol Kauffman, MA, was a licensed, certified speech-language pathologist for over forty years. As director of speech and hearing at Madison County Hospital in London, Ohio, she helped implement the Attention-Behavior-Language Evaluation (ABLE) clinic in conjunction with the occupational and mental health departments, and for the next 12 years, provided services for children and adults with a variety of neurodevelopmental challenges within a multidisciplinary framework. In 1995, she founded the Attention, Language Processing, and Sensorimotor (ALPS) clinic at Mary Rutan Hospital in Bellefontaine, Ohio. Through her company, Language Learning Consultants, she developed educational materials for parents and professionals to help children with language, attention, and sensorimotor challenges. She has presented seminars at the state and national levels on topics related to integration of services for children with co-existing neurodevelopmental challenges, has authored numerous articles, and taught several online courses on ADHD and language disorders in children. Ms. Kauffman received her master’s degree from The Ohio State University and was an adjunct faculty member for two years. She retired from direct service in 2016 just in time to become a grandma. In addition to hanging out with her two grandsons, she is currently working with Fulton Books to publish her first fiction novel about a girl with ADHD and her twin brother with autism who combine their unique skills to save the world.

 

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05 Sep 2023Ep. 149: Supporting Children and Teens’ Mental Health via Nutrition00:12:40

Lately, we’ve been focusing on preparing students who think and learn differently for a transition back to school. But today’s topic is an interesting and often overlooked aspect of mental health - nutrition. Studies show that what we eat can significantly impact our mental wellbeing. The same is true for children and teens and we can help support their mental health through their diet.

 

Show Notes:

[1:34] - Emerging research is showing that our dietary choices play a role in our mental health.

[3:07] - Avoiding processed options is best but Americans get most of their calories from processed foods.

[4:10] - How does nutrition impact our brains?

[5:19] - Improving nutrition can have positive effects on depression and ADHD.

[8:49] - Embrace whole foods.

[9:04] - Variety is key.

[9:20] - Consider a culture of mindful meals.

[9:50] - Minimize processed foods.

[11:14] - Everyone is different. It is important to consider a personalized approach.

 

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17 May 2022Ep. 81: Yes! Your Child Can with Victoria Waller, Ed.D00:34:37

Welcome back for another exciting conversation, this time with an educator who has been working with children for over 40 years. Dr. Victoria Waller, author of Yes! Your Child Can: Creating Success for Children with Learning Differences, joins the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast to help us identify the strengths of each child to unlock their full potential. Her focus for the last 40 years and counting is not what is wrong with children, but what is right.

In our discussion today, Dr. Waller shares several of her experiences and student success stories that have resulted from focusing on interests and strengths. As parents and educators, sometimes we get caught up in honing in on deficits and while early intervention is crucial, we can better reach a child and develop a trusting relationship when we help them with the things they love. Releasing in June 2022, Dr. Waller’s book is highly recommended for all parents.

 

Show Notes:

[2:07] - Victoria Waller’s book is available for preorder for release in June 2022. 

[3:10] - Even 40 years ago, Victoria never called it a disability and sees kids’ incredible abilities.

[4:14] - Victoria shares the statistics that show that most parents think their child will “snap out of it” and educators think children with learning differences are “lazy.”

[6:01] - What inspired her to write this specific book? After putting the book aside, Victoria had two experiences that pushed her to publish.

[8:19] - When you have a gut feeling, you have to get your child help.

[10:40] - Sharing another story about a child’s passion, Victoria proves the impact of using a child’s interests in their learning.

[12:32] - All children have positives and strengths and recognizing them is empowering.

[13:53] - Some kids spend all day in school and every day in therapy after school and it can be detrimental to have too much going on.

[14:59] - Most parents pay close attention to what their child can’t do rather than what they can do.

[16:12] - Sometimes you need to get creative to teach a skill using a child’s passion. It connects their interest with learning and sparks more interest.

[18:41] - Many children with learning differences can use their passions to create.

[20:56] - In her book, Victoria takes readers on a step by step process.

[23:06] - You can be smart, but still struggle.

[24:23] - Parents tend to be afraid of learning problems and struggles can cause stress for both the parents and the student.

[25:44] - While helping parents understand, Victoria’s book is also helping empower students.

[27:24] - Confidence is crucial and is even a key component of socializing.

[30:01] - It is okay to reach out to a teacher or therapist.

[31:21] - Victoria’s book also provides educators with ways to communicate with parents about a child’s strengths.

 

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Victoria E. Waller, Ed.D. holds a B.S. in Education from Wayne State University, and both an M.Ed. as a certified reading specialist and an Ed.D. focusing on reading and learning differences from the University of Cincinnati. Dr. Waller has been awarded the University of Cincinnati’s Distinguished Alumna College of Education Award, was one of three finalists for the L.A. Music Center’s Bravo Award for Outstanding Teaching, and was named a Local Hero in the L.A. Times for her Printer Pal Program, connecting students with nursing home occupants. She was the creator of the Disney Busy Bags for Travel on Planes and Cars for Disney/Hyperion Books and has created backpacks and toys for M&M Mars, Inc.

 

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17 Jan 2023Ep. 116: How Dialectical Behavior Therapy Helps Children and Teens with Patricia Gieselman, MFT00:42:38

Parents have recently reached out with questions and topics they’d like to hear more about. One commonality these topics have is the child or teen who is struggling with emotional regulation. That may be anger, defiance, or communication problems. So in today’s episode, we’re starting to explore different treatment options in the hopes of providing information to families. Today’s focus is on Dialectical Behavior Therapy or DBT.

Our guest on this topic is an expert in the field. Patricia (Patty) Gieselman, MFT is the founder and Executive Director of Choices Counseling & Skills Center, which specializes in this type of behavior therapy. She has tons of experience working with adults, adolescents, children, and their families using this approach.

In our conversion, she explains why it is important to provide youth with skills and strategies that improve their ability to manage their emotions and give them the tools needed to accept those parts of their life that cannot be changed. This model is unique in many ways and in Patty’s experience, extremely impactful and successful.

 

Show Notes:

[3:43] - Patty is an expert in Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and explains how and why it was developed.

[4:41] - DBT is Cognitive Behavior Therapy and zen practice combined.

[6:02] - The goal is to bring together acceptance, validation, and change. DBT treats problem behaviors that are caused by emotional dysregulation.

[7:18] - The DBT model includes multiple components, broken up into skills groups and individualized therapy.

[9:03] - There is an adaptation of DBT for children. Children are sensitive and easily reactive to the world.

[10:23] - A part of DBT is a family component that gives parents the skills to create an environment that is validating to the child.

[11:15] - DBT for Children has a child component, a parent component, and a parent/child component.

[13:35] - Parents are also given the skills to manage their own emotional dysregulation. 

[14:41] - Patty lists some of the behaviors that are treated by DBT. But the goals for DBT for Children are different from those for adults.

[16:31] - A specific diagnosis is not the focus of DBT, but rather the behaviors that impact daily life.

[18:28] - In the beginning of DBT for Children, there’s an assessment period to help parents triage the problem that impacts their relationship.

[20:26] - Through the multi-family skills groups, parents have the same assignments and activities as their children.

[22:29] - Patty describes DBT as mindfulness that has been behavioralized.

[24:06] - Through the process, Crisis Survival Skills are also taught to help children.

[25:46] - We all have to accept things we don’t like and know the difference between those things and the things we can change.

[27:23] - Other therapies use the term “trigger”, but DBT views triggers differently.

[29:51] - Patty explains what “Check the Facts” means and the ways clients are taught to manage the situation without exhibiting problem behaviors.

[32:38] - Patty describes what they look at in individual therapy sessions and how parents sometimes inadvertently reinforce behaviors. 

[35:03] - DBT gives children, adolescents, and families the skills and tools to handle difficult situations and accept the things that can’t be changed.

[36:50] - Parents also have access to skills leaders for coaching as needed.

[37:32] - Validation is not the same thing as praise.

[38:31] - We are all guilty of skipping the step of validating emotions and jumping to solving problems. We can’t solve the problem with high emotions.

 

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Patricia (Patty) Gieselman, MFT is a DBT-Linehan Board of Certification, Certified

Clinician™. She is the founder and Executive Director of Choices Counseling & Skills

Center, which specializes in comprehensive Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) for adults, adolescents, children and their families. She is a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with extensive experience working with adults, adolescents, and families in both community-based and residential settings. During her career, she has worked in the public and private sector as a clinician, consultant, trainer, program director, and Vice President of Clinical Services. In addition to offering counseling services, Ms. Gieselman trains mental health professionals as a provider of continuing education courses for the California Association of Marriage & Family Therapists (CAMFT), Board of Registered Nursing (BRN) and the California Psychological Association (CPA) and has been an adjunct instructor for local universities. She has been an invited trainer both nationally and internationally. Patty is well-known for her practical yet often whimsical approach to teaching and problem solving.

 

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24 Oct 2023Ep. 156: To Test or Not to Test (ACT/SAT) in the Test-Optional Era with Annika Guy00:29:38

If you have a teen who is preparing for or thinking about applying to college, you are likely aware that some colleges and universities are test optional or even test blind when it comes to ACTs and SATs. But what does that mean? Should students with learning differences, test anxiety, or struggles with test-taking in general take these tests?

Annika Guy is the Director of Independent Study/Homeschool and SAT/ACT programming at Hayutin Education and a valued ChildNEXUS member. And while they know so much about test-optional and test-blind colleges and universities, they are here to tell us that it is a constantly changing landscape. We’ve definitely entered a new era of college acceptance processes and even the tests themselves have gone through some evolution over the last several years.

So if you and your teen are considering colleges, we now need to answer the question: to test or not to test?

 

Show Notes:

[2:42] - So much has changed in the last few years and it continues to evolve very quickly.

[3:49] - There is a lot of conflicting information and opinions when it comes to testing and college prep. This makes the decision to test that much harder.

[4:59] - It can be very frustrating to go through testing and then learn that the university or college doesn’t require it.

[5:38] - Test-optional means that schools will not require test scores to be submitted when applying, but will look them over if submitted.

[7:21] - Test blind means that schools don’t even look at test scores at all even if you submit them.

[9:08] - A big concern for students and parents is that learning differences and test-taking difficulties result in scores that don’t reflect a student’s ability and potential.

[11:24] - Although it can be confusing, it is ultimately a good thing that there are test-optional and test blind schools.

[13:10] - Testing companies are beginning to shift their thinking around the necessity and accuracy of test scores.

[14:43] - The SAT has gone through a lot of changes in the last ten years. Now it is a much shorter test and is provided digitally.

[17:53] - There are some things that can be put into a test-prep plan including practice tests and test-prep tutors.

[21:24] - Hayutin Education is very transparent about the murky waters of testing and test prep. They help students navigate this decision.

[23:19] - Homeschooled students need to test and there are other demographics that feel more pressured to test like international students and athletes.

[25:01] - Test prep should not be prioritized over keeping up a GPA.

[26:36] - Hayutin Education offers a number of services including test prep services, college application guidance, and academic support.

 

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Annika Guy is the Director of Independent Study/Homeschool and SAT/ACT programming at Hayutin Education. Annika joined the Hayutin administrative team in 2021 after two years on the educator team. Annika has worked with students ranging from elementary school through college in a variety of humanities-based subjects as well as math, science, executive function coaching, independent study/homeschool, and test prep. As Director of Independent Study, Annika is passionate about custom curriculum design and developing the best program for each student’s unique learning style. In their role as Director of Hayutin’s SAT/ACT program, Annika consults with families about the changing landscape of college admissions in the test-optional era, and what that means for students facing the question of whether or not to test.

 

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20 Sep 2022Ep. 99: Straight Talk About ADHD in Girls with Dr. Stephen Hinshaw00:32:21

We’ve discussed ADHD on the podcast before and it continues to be an important topic. But something we haven’t delved into yet is what ADHD looks like in girls. Dr. Stephen Hinshaw has conducted years of research including a longitudinal study on girls with ADHD and his findings are not only fascinating but important to consider especially if you are the parent of a daughter with ADHD.

Dr. Hinshaw has recently written a book called Straight Talk About ADHD in Girls: How to Help Your Daughter Thrive. Parenting a daughter with Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder is no easy path, especially because of the myth that the disorder is rare or nonexistent in girls. In his book, Dr. Hinshaw provides vital information and advice to help you understand and meet your daughter’s needs. And in this episode, he does the same. He delivers up-to-date facts on what ADHD is, why symptoms often appear differently in girls than in boys, why girls with ADHD behave the way they do, how to get an accurate diagnosis, and what treatments are most effective.

There is so much pressure on girls to be perfect and for those with ADHD, it feels especially hard to measure up. The social stigmas and academic challenges ADHD present to girls is often isolating and painful. So listen to Dr. Hinshaw explain the science behind it all and what we can do as parents and educators to help our girls with ADHD.

 

Show Notes:

[2:22] - ADHD is more prevalent in boys than girls, but why?

[3:23] - Because of the difference in development, symptoms of ADHD in girls are often overlooked.

[4:27] - Girls with ADHD tend to show their symptoms differently. Many don’t get diagnosed until they are teenagers or even young adults.

[5:28] - ADHD causes problems with the self-regulation of attention.

[6:30] - It takes some time to observe and diagnose ADHD.

[7:16] - Some girls may show their hyperactivity verbally instead of physically.

[8:43] - Dr. Hinshaw conducted the largest longitudinal study on girls with ADHD.

[9:37] - In childhood, girls with ADHD are just as impaired as boys. Socially, they tend to get rejected by their peers more so than boys.

[11:26] - Dr. Hinshaw shares the differences in the larger consequences like delinquency, substance use, and mental health.

[13:34] - ADHD increases the risk of self harm and suicide.

[15:08] - Low self-esteem, difficult peer relationships, increasing academic struggles, make things challenging in young adulthood too.

[17:01] - Across many studies and types of research, both males and females and the differences between them are not taken into consideration.

[18:54] - There can be more severe social consequences of lack of early intervention for girls.

[21:39] - There are consistent inconsistencies.

[23:00] - Milder conditions or conditions that don’t have as many outward indicators, result in more stigma.

[24:52] - If you are the parent of a girl who has ADHD with a solid diagnosis, you have to show radical acceptance and commitment.
[26:33] - Motivation, regulation, and even medication are things to be considered.

[27:28] - What are your daughter’s strengths?

[28:31] - One valued and strong friendship can offset the social complications they experience.

[29:45] - Research has shown that parents of girls with ADHD tend to have much more parental stress. Parent management training is beneficial.

[31:19] - Get Dr. Hinshaw’s book for 20% off using this special Diverse Thinking Different Learning discount code: 1F2017



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Stephen P. Hinshaw is Distinguished Professor of Psychology at UC Berkeley and Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at UC San Francisco. His work focuses on developmental psychopathology, child and adolescent mental health (particularly ADHD), and the use of clinical trials to understand underlying mechanisms. He also actively investigates mental illness stigma and interventions to reduce it. Hinshaw has authored over 400 articles, chapters, and commentaries plus 13 books. He has won numerous national and international research awards, including the James McKeen Cattell Fellow Award from the Association for Psychological Science, the Distinguished Scientific Contributions Award from the American Psychological Association, and the Sarnat International Prize in Mental Health from the National Academy of Medicine. He was inducted into the American Academy of Arts and Sciences in 2021. His extensive media coverage includes the New York Times, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, Today Show, CBS Evening News, ABC World News Tonight, and many more. 

 

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18 Jan 2022Ep. 64: How Technology Can Be Used to Facilitate Communication with Rachel Madel M.A., CCC-SLP00:43:14

TV shows, cartoons, YouTube videos, and even game apps can be used to facilitate communication. There is so much amazing technology available and at our fingertips that can change the lives of children and teens who struggle communicating, and the best part about using these technological tools is that they are also very engaging.

Today’s guest is Rachel Madel and her passion for technology shines in this episode all about how technology can be used to facilitate communication. She even hosts her own podcast on this exact topic called Talking With Tech. In this episode, Rachel shares how and why technology helps support students with communication difficulties and she gives us a ton of great ideas that will get students motivated.

 

Show Notes:

[2:21] - We live in a time that has so much available in technology, especially to communicate.

[3:24] - People’s comfort levels with tools have improved in the last two years.

[4:51] - Rachel’s passion is in how to use existing tools to improve student learning. She describes the types of students she sees in her private practice.

[8:10] - Regarding visual supports, it’s never a bad time to use them. Devices to assist children in speaking does not hinder their learning to communicate.

[10:11] - Rachel explains the typical trajectory of speech development and why there is such a focus on speech.

[12:10] - Consistent access to verbal speech is key.

[14:31] - Communication is more than understanding what is being said.

[16:20] - Rachel emphasizes the need for early AAC use and visual support to avoid falling so far behind.

[18:01] - In many cases, students appear to not be listening, but it could be that there is a language processing issue.

[20:12] - Language processing issues create a lot of frustration and anxiety.

[22:10] - Developing the skill of asking for help is also important.

[23:40] - Rachel normalizes these experiences through modeling.

[25:44] - Using technology is not giving a child a device and walking away. There are strategies Rachel uses to help support communication.

[28:01] - When we are using technology to support communication, we need to slow down the process.

[29:00] - Videos are oftentimes moving extremely fast and Rachel suggests changing the playback speed.

[30:02] - We can use technology strategically to get kids engaged.

[31:49] - There are many students who know the rules but don’t understand “the why.”

[32:59] - Rachel loves using animated shorts without dialogue to talk about clues.

[35:40] - There are so many speech therapy apps and tools. Rachel shares some of her favorites.

[37:36] - Some apps can also be used specifically for motivation.

[39:01] - Pepi Wonder World is one of Rachel’s favorite game apps that give students a lot of opportunities to solve problems and use specific language.

 

About Our Guest:

Rachel Madel M.A.,CCC-SLP is a LA-based speech-language pathologist dedicated to coaching parents and professionals on how to incorporate technology to best support speech and language development. Rachel presents both nationally and abroad on the use of augmentative alternative communication (AAC) for children with complex communication needs and coaches clinicians, teachers and parents on integrating technology in classrooms and at home to support communication. She co-hosts a weekly podcast called Talking With Tech and creates educational resources, therapy materials and training videos to help support parents and professionals. 

 

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09 Nov 2021Ep. 55: How Mindfulness Enhances Learning and Mental Health with Andrew Jordan Nance00:29:36

When it comes to mindfulness, we all have the tools readily accessible at all times to get started. Mindfulness is simple but powerful and can help address a child’s emotional regulation, inattention, and anxiety. In fact, not only children benefit from this practice, but adults as well. But what do we mean by mindfulness? What does it look like and how can we start building these practices into our daily lives? Today’s guest shares just that.

Andrew Jordan Nance is a bestselling author of both children’s books and classroom curriculum on mindfulness practices. He is also the founder of Mindful Arts San Francisco and spends time presenting in schools in the area to help kids develop muscle memory in mindfulness breathing practices. In today’s episode, he explains what mindfulness is and how we can use simple breathing exercises to acknowledge our emotions and make good choices in response. His kid-friendly explanations are perfect for students and make mindfulness accessible to all, within the home and the classroom.

 

Show Notes:

[2:30] - Mindfulness is the practice of using our breath to focus on our minds, hearts, and bodies. 

[3:53] - Andrew suggests replacing judgment with kindness.

[5:16] - Although a calming practice, mindfulness isn’t always for staying calm, but more for just acknowledging and being with our emotions.

[6:45] - Andrew does an activity that he does with children to understand big feelings.

[8:29] - One of the purposes of mindfulness in schools is to help children develop the muscle memory of taking breaths to relax and think through big feelings.

[11:10] - Andrew lists some of the benefits of mindfulness practices.

[12:40] - Meditation is important, but mindfulness is different and can be integrated throughout the day.

[14:05] - Andrew describes Quiet Coyote breathing and other practices that can be used in the classroom.

[16:38] - Mindful Arts San Francisco is a program that Andrew founded. He shares his inspiration to start this program and write his books, specifically Puppy Mind.

[19:23] - Puppy Mind is great for elementary aged students, but adults can find value in it as well.

[21:02] - The goal is not to have our “puppy mind” go away, but to better manage our attention and emotions.

[23:37] - How have things been moving forward with Andrew’s presentations and curriculum post-COVID?

[24:55] - Breathing practices connect everything together and enhance relationships and focus.

[26:54] - Mindfulness is fully accessible to everyone all the time and can be integrated into home life and school.

[28:20] - Mindfulness isn’t always easy to start, but can impact many areas of a child or adolescent’s life.

 

About Our Guest:

Andrew Jordan Nance has been an educator since 1990. He is the author of four published books; The Barefoot King, The Lion in Me, Mindful Arts in the Classroom, and the bestseller, Puppy Mind. He is the founder of Mindful Arts San Francisco; a program of the San Francisco Education Fund that provides volunteer mindfulness educators to teach in SF public schools. On KTVU’s SF Loves Learning, Mr. Nance was the featured Mindfulness Teacher and his adapted five-episode series of Puppy Mind premiered on KTVU and was distributed to school districts around the country. For almost thirty years, he taught performing arts to students from diverse backgrounds, and for eighteen years he was the Conservatory Director at San Francisco’s New Conservatory Theatre Center. Nance is also an award-winning actor and director. He is on the board of directors of several educational nonprofit organizations including Mindful Life Project in Richmond, California and San Francisco’s New Conservatory Theater Center. He is the recipient of the Points of Light Award, a national honor recognizing his volunteer efforts to bring mindfulness to youth.

 

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02 Nov 2021Ep. 54: Managing Family Stress and Anxiety with Dr. Stephanie Mihalas00:33:21

As a response to the feedback of last week’s episode, it is clear to me that revisiting the topic of stress and anxiety in children and adolescents is greatly needed. The Covid-19 pandemic has impacted us all in more ways than one and although many students are attending school in person again, things are still stressful and uncertain. Our stress and anxiety levels are constantly fluctuating and we are asking our children to be extremely flexible as they are trying to navigate their current year in school. 

Today we are revisiting episode 6 with Dr. Stephanie Mihalas. This conversation is so meaningful and relevant to the challenges we are continuing to face. By listening, you’ll learn the difference between individual and collective grief, how to address grief associated with the pandemic, the difference between anxiety and trauma, and strategies for managing stress and anxiety.

 

Show Notes:

[2:28] - Dr. Wilson and Dr. Mihalas discuss the grief people are experiencing after losing our normal way of living.

[4:29] - We are in a state of individual grief and a state of collective grief. Our feelings of anxiety and grief are a completely normal response.

[5:30] - This grief and anxiety isn’t a clinical issue unless it gets to the point where you can’t function anymore. That would be when you need to reach out for support.

[7:10] - Dr. Mihalas says the most important thing we need to do during this time is to acknowledge that our feelings of grief are normal and that we utilize our support systems.

[8:13] - Over 70% of parents are stating that they feel stress and anxiety in regards to distance learning. It is tough to parent when you are feeling this way.

[8:49] - This is the first time many parents are seeing their own children learn and when they see their inattentiveness or struggle, they wonder if there is a learning disability.

[10:54] - Dr. Mihalas also says that parents need to make sure they have dedicated self-care time every single day to avoid burnout and to decompress.

[14:03] - There is debate right now about whether we are experiencing a traumatic event or not. Dr. Mihalas says that it depends on the makeup of the family.

[15:44] - Some people can also experience anxiety and a PTSD response to the challenges we are facing.

[18:00] - The critical factor that compounds this situation is collective family anxiety. Parents want to reassure their children but they are anxious and scared themselves.

[19:47] - Stephanie discusses how children can experience a PTSD response during these times.

[20:26] - Dr. Mihalas is encouraging parents to be vigilant with monitoring their child’s mental health.

[22:28] - Anxiety, stress, and PTSD interfere with the learning process. When you seek help for mental health, you are also helping with learning.

[23:47] - Children may show their anxiety in different ways. Dr. Mihalas lists several examples of this and emphasizes the importance of taking note of issues that impede learning.

[25:15] - There has been focus and concern around learning losses, but Dr. Wilson points out that learning takes place in a social context and losing the opportunity to interact with their peers is something that some children are grieving.

[27:08] - Dr. Mihalas lists a lot of ways to think outside the box on how we can have connections with others. 

[29:36] - Home used to be the place to connect and unwind, but now it is also used for school and work. Stephanie suggests having some symbolism to separate spaces or times to switch gears.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Stephanie Mihalas has a private practice in Los Angeles – The Center for Well Being – where she works on enhancing self-esteem, self-advocacy, and general well-being and happiness in children and families. In her practice, she utilizes a number of techniques including CBT, play therapy, psychodynamic psychotherapy, art interventions, trauma-informed care, and mindfulness techniques.

 

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04 Jun 2024Ep. 188: Enhancing Reading Skills Through Speech-Language Therapy with Stacy Payne MS, CCC-SLP00:48:53

Today, I’m excited to discuss the profound impact of early language and speech experiences on cognitive and academic skills, specifically reading skills. Joining us is a seasoned expert in the field, Stacy Payne, a speech-language pathologist and the founder of Bright Beginnings Pediatric Services.

Stacy shares her insights on the importance of creating a language-rich environment for children from an early age. She explains how these early interactions, much more than simple bedtime stories, are integral to cognitive development. Through everyday activities and conversations, parents and caregivers can significantly influence a child's language acquisition and communication skills.

We also explore the complexity of the developing brain and how language and communication skills evolve throughout childhood. Stacy highlights the importance of repetition in creating new neural pathways and how incorporating language-building strategies into daily routines, like grocery shopping, can make a huge difference.

For those concerned about missing critical language milestones in early childhood, Stacy offers reassurance that the brain can learn new skills and adapt at any age. She also shares exciting opportunities to maximize learning during the summer months, including intensive skill-building camps provided by Bright Beginnings Pediatric Services.

This is definitely a conversation you don’t want to miss!

Show Notes:

  • [2:33] - Speech and language therapy addresses more than just articulation.
  • [3:47] - Stacy explains that speech and language pathology includes everything “above the waist.”
  • [5:01] - It is anything that can get in the way of a person communicating.
  • [7:15] - Language doesn’t just include verbal communication. The brain is very complex and we have a lot of modalities to communicate.
  • [8:36] - Stacy explains how language and communication develop in an infant’s developing brain.
  • [12:17] - We need to be able to provide a language-rich environment for our developing children.
  • [13:52] - There are so many opportunities in simple day-to-day interactions to integrate language development strategies.
  • [15:12] - The brain requires repetition to develop a new skill and create a new neural pathway.
  • [16:51] - Build language into your day. Think about the countless opportunities at the grocery store.
  • [19:04] - Stacy describes some of the important considerations if a child is growing up in a household of multiple languages.
  • [22:28] - It is important to continue these conversations throughout the child’s life, not just in the early years.
  • [24:39] - Talking through things is also a form of modeling. These are all teaching and learning moments.
  • [26:39] - A lot of times, people don’t have the words to express themselves.
  • [28:08] - After articulation, pay attention to reading and writing.
  • [31:30] - Sometimes we forget about the things that we can pull into language development as we work on goals and articulation.
  • [33:35] - Stacy discusses cognitive training that speech-language pathologists go through that are typically unexpected by most people.
  • [35:06] - If something is missed in childhood, it’s not forever. The brain can still learn new things and how to do things in new ways.
  • [41:26] - We can maximize the summer months to work intensively on these skills. Stacy shares the summer camps available.

About Our Guest:

Stacy St. Amant Payne is a licensed speech-language pathologist who holds the Certificate of Clinical Competency awarded by the American Speech Language and Hearing Association, a certified lactation educator, a certified ADHD-Rehabilitation Services Provider, and an extensively trained clinician and lecturer in the areas of dysphagia, motor speech disorders, reading disabilities, language-based learning disorders, and ADHD. She is the recipient of several ACE awards from ASHA for her ongoing commitment to continuing education. 

Stacy founded Bright Beginnings Pediatric Services over 10 years ago after 20 years in the field of medical speech pathology, with a mission to help children in the community who are experiencing feeding, speech, language, reading, and learning challenges. 

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14 Feb 2023Ep. 120: Meeting the Needs of Culturally and Neurodiverse Students with Juniette Kanga and Maria Kennedy00:45:53

What can we do to create more inclusive communities where students’ needs are met? This conversation needs to be had and is probably the most important conversation we’ve had on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast to date. There is a lot to unpack here, but today’s guests show us that every journey and every discussion has a first step and they’re here to help us take it.

Maria Kennedy and Juniette Kanga join me today to talk about the intersection between ethnicity and neurodiversity. Through their own experiences as educators, parents, and their own unique cultural differences, they share the ways they’ve learned the biases, both conscious and unconscious, in the education system. But more than just saying there’s a problem, Maria and Juniette have taken the next step in helping others understand and creating communities where culturally diverse and neurodiverse individuals can come together.

This will not be the last we’ll hear from Maria and Juniette and the work they do.

 

Show Notes:

[3:35] - There is so much to unpack. Every journey starts with one step and we have to take the first step in understanding.

[5:03] - In Maria’s experience, if children and teens of color do not excel in athletics, their strengths and challenges aren’t always acknowledged.

[6:47] - Learning differences and neurodiversity are so common and yet still misunderstood.

[8:50] - In education, we have a deficit model. Teachers are taught to look for things children can’t do.

[10:37] - Remediation is very restrictive. If the focus is remediation, we miss out on engagement and identifying needs.

[12:09] - Children are not broken and they do not need to be fixed. One size fits all does not work in education.

[13:50] - Remediation is important and impactful, but it isn’t enough on its own.

[14:46] - At the symposium Maria hosted, she had students speak about their experience and the lessons they spoke about were the ones in which they felt valued.

[16:35] - As a community, we have a responsibility to encourage the growth and development of all people in the community.

[17:23] - Juniette joins the conversation and shares how different is equally as beautiful.

[19:01] - Some companies are tapping into creative, outside-of-the-box thinking and cultural differences to move things forward.

[20:36] - As parents, we are constantly trying to protect our children and sometimes that holds them back.

[21:54] - Educators need to be aware of their biases to properly help every child.

[23:27] - Maria shares a story about her own three year old son being sent out of the classroom for refusing to complete an assignment that was too easy.

[26:29] - Even as a supporter of public schools, Maria knew that it wasn’t the right fit for her exceptional learner.

[28:16] - Education needs to be culturally aware and look at the needs of everyone in the classroom.

[29:50] - Some children are ostracized for asking questions.

[31:18] - Adults need to ask more questions and take the step in understanding.

[33:17] - It is common for teachers to not want to differentiate instruction as it is more work.

[34:54] - Culturally, there is a hesitation to accept a child’s giftedness.

[36:57] - Teacher training and education needs to be stronger so teachers can see the signs of learning differences.

[38:16] - Strength-based education is best for all students.

[39:44] - Teachers also need to know the impact they have on their students and their drive to learn.

[41:52] - Maria and Juniette’s goals are to empower you. They have cross-cultural pods for discussions and resources.

 

About Our Guests:

Juniette Kanga, M. Des, is a mother of five children and a doctoral student at Bridges Graduate School of Cognitive Diversity. She holds a graduate certificate in twice exceptional education, is a trained Social Emotional Needs for the Gifted (SENG) facilitator and a North American Scholastic Esports Federation (NASEF) 2022 - 2023 fellow, a role she recently ventured into in supporting interests based learning for non-traditional learners, such as homeschooled and twice-exceptional children. She is the founder of a consultancy to support parents like her advocacy and education.

 

Maria M. Kennedy first joined the Bridges Academy staff as the Director of Phoenix. After successfully growing the program each year, she has taken on the position of Director in the Bridges Educational Group. Speaker, author, and advocate Maria has been an educator for almost 30 years. Maria received her B.Ed. and M.Ed. in education from Manchester University. She earned Advanced Teacher Status from the Manchester Department of Education for her ability to develop curriculum and her skills within the classroom. She traveled internationally, teaching students and training teachers how to tap into the strengths of their gifted and challenged students. Maria believes that effective educators must continue to learn and grow as a person. With this in mind, she constantly reads and works closely with leading educators in the field of 2E education. 

 

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30 May 2023Ep. 135: Your Child’s Anxiety: When to Worry with Dr. John Piacentini00:35:00

We know that anxiety is common and many of us have experienced some level of anxiety. But there are many myths and misunderstandings about anxiety that could be preventing a child from getting the care and treatment they need. One of the myths you might have heard is that “kids will grow out of it.” While stress and fear are normal components of childhood development, 80% of children who are experiencing problematic anxiety are not getting treatment.

Dr. John Piacentini joins me today to help us understand what anxiety is, how it differs from stress, and how to help your child if they are struggling with anxiety. For children and adults alike, stress levels continue to be high as we are still dealing with the uncertainty of the pandemic. But there are things we can do to validate a child’s feelings and help them through mild anxiety. And for those who are experiencing severe anxiety, Dr. Piacentini explains different types of treatment and support that can positively impact the trajectory of a child’s development.

 

Show Notes:

[2:25] - There have been and continue to be concerns about the impact of anxiety on childhood development.

[3:26] - Stress is a physical reaction in response to something difficult or even exciting.

[4:29] - When stress becomes chronic, it is cause for concern.

[5:04] - Alternatively, anxiety is related to fear. Fear is a response to something that is threatening.

[6:31] - Dr. Piacentini gives an example to show the difference and similarities between stress, anxiety, and fear.

[7:58] - There are times in development when anxiety and fear are normal.

[10:30] - The intensity of the anxiety and anxious behaviors is something that is looked at and is cause for concern.

[12:04] - Avoiding the thing the child is fearful of can intensify the anxiety.

[13:34] - Dr. Piacentini explains the difference between positive and negative reinforcement and how each kind impacts behavior.

[15:43] - A parent’s nature is to want to protect their child from stress, but Dr. Piacentini reminds us that their independence needs to develop.

[17:05] - Missing out on social situations has a negative impact on anxiety.

[18:51] - There are higher levels of mental health issues associated with the pandemic. Children with anxiety are even more sensitive.

[20:10] - When schools closed, many children with anxiety and OCD felt validated, but the return to school has caused more stress, fear, and anxiety.

[21:30] - Avoid having young children watch the news and catastrophizing the pandemic and provide as much structure as you can.

[23:26] - Don’t accommodate the anxiety.

[25:15] - Dr. Piacentini describes Cognitive Behavior Therapy and discusses how effective it can be.

[28:50] - About 10% of kids meet criteria for problematic anxiety. Only 2 out of 10 are getting the treatment they need.

[30:01] - A common physical symptom of anxiety are frequent headaches and stomachaches.

[31:48] - The mission of UCLA CARES is to increase awareness and to help identify early signs of anxiety.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. John Piacentini is a board-certified clinical child and adolescent psychologist and Professor of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences in the David Geffen School of Medicine and Semel Institute for Neuroscience at UCLA.  He is also the Director of the UCLA Child OCD, Anxiety and Tic Disorders Program and the Center for Child Anxiety, Resilience, Education and Support. Dr. Piacentini’s research focuses on the development of science-based treatments for child anxiety, OCD, tic, and related disorders. Through UCLA CARES, he and his team have implemented a number of school and community-based education and prevention programs to reduce the burden of child anxiety. Dr. Piacentini has authored over 300 scientific publications, including seven books, and his research has been funded by the National Institute of Mental Health and other leading foundations and philanthropic organizations. Dr. Piacentini is a frequent lecturer, and with his team has trained hundreds of mental health clinicians around the world in cognitive-behavior therapy and other evidence-based treatments and provided care to over 1000 children, adolescents, and their families.

 

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17 Nov 2020Ep. 4: Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities with Dr. Daniel Franklin00:34:17

What is a Language-Based Learning Disability and when should we as parents be concerned? Well, let’s ask an expert! Today my guest is Dr. Daniel Franklin, the founder and clinical director of the Los Angeles based Franklin Educational Services and the author of the book Helping Your Child with Learning-Based Learning Difficulties.

In today’s episode my guest and I discuss how the parent-child relationship is an important component of any intervention. We also recognize the fine line between being a helicopter parent and a helpful parent and Dr. Franklin gives great advice on walking that fine line. We even dive into the struggles students, teachers, and parents are facing with distance learning.

Dr. Franklin and I have such an amazing conversation today that will leave you empowered and inspired. 

 

Show Notes:

[1:31] - Karen and Daniel have had a previous conversation about the “Summer Slide” and the new concern, the “COVID Slide.”

[2:37] - Dr. Franklin says that research is finding that many children who have a reading difficulty or diagnosed specific learning disability very frequently have a behavioral difference as well, like ADHD.

[3:29] - Because of this overlap in learning difficulties, they are grouped under a broader umbrella of Language-Based Learning Disabilities.

[4:10] - Dr. Wilson mentions that she sees the overlap often in her practice and even when children have completely different diagnoses, they often have similar learning difficulties.

[5:20] - We want to remember that the human brain, especially a child’s brain, is a social organ that functions best in a context of healthy, positive relationships.

[6:11] - Dr. Franklin discusses the importance of the child developing a strong concept of healthy relationships and calls this Attachment Theory. Attachment Theory is an individual’s internal model of what a relationship is.

[6:32] - Only when a child is in a calm, regulated state can they experience meaningful learning.

[8:41] - The difference between a helicopter parent and a helpful parent is that a helicopter parent provides help that is not needed.

[10:04] - When we need to provide more help, that is fine, but when help is no longer needed in an area, as parents, we need to dial it down a bit. The inconsistency can seem confusing.

[11:19] - While students are learning to read, they cannot read to learn. When students are expected to learn information from written language, we need to help them understand in a different way.

[12:39] - Dr. Franklin gives some suggestions on how to help students with writing without being counterproductive.

[14:12] - Generally, teachers are okay with the help parents give their children when helping them with writing as long as we are transparent with them and they know what to expect.

[16:05] - Dr. Franklin emphasizes the importance of identifying underlying difficulties to provide students the correct instruction and intervention.

[17:04] - The hierarchy of reading support is discussed in Dr. Franklin’s book and he breaks it down briefly with Dr. Wilson.

[18:40] - Dr. Franklin was featured in a documentary called Unteachable by Anthony Sherin which focuses on the importance of student-teacher relationships. Daniel was featured because of a personal experience with a teacher that impacted him profoundly.

[21:05] - Having a strong relationship with students is important in helping them develop self confidence and reinforce a love of learning. Daniel realized that he was capable of learning.

[23:58] - No two kids are the same. No two kids learn the same things in the same way at the same time.

[24:25] - Teaching and learning virtually is very challenging so if a parent notices a struggle, it could be a learning difficulty, or it could be the fact that they are distance learning.

[25:16] - Dr. Franklin’s recommendation for parents who are concerned about distance learning for their child is to keep a record of all the learning outcomes the teacher is seeking and to become actively involved in knowing the lessons. If you know ahead of time, you can pre-teach your child so they go in prepared and confident.

[27:11] - Sharing your observations with teachers is important. Right now, during this pandemic, teachers are working hard on delivering content and teaching in a way they are not used to and that is very challenging.

[29:47] - If you want to know what is going on in a child’s mind, observe their body. If they are slumped over, their brain is slumped, too.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Daniel Franklin is the author of Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities, and a co-editor of The Los Angeles Psychologist. He holds a master’s degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education and a PhD from UCLA in Education. Dr. Franklin has over 30 years of experience in education as a teacher, administrator, and educational consultant.

 

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26 Dec 2023Ep. 165: Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities with Dr. Daniel Franklin00:34:56

It’s time to spend some time with family for the holidays and now is a great time to look back at some of the earliest episodes of Diverse Thinking Different Learning. Today, we’re revisiting our conversation with Dr. Daniel Franklin.

What is a Language-Based Learning Disability and when should we as parents be concerned? Well, let’s ask an expert! Today my guest is Dr. Daniel Franklin, the founder and clinical director of the Los Angeles based Franklin Educational Services and the author of the book Helping Your Child with Learning-Based Learning Difficulties.

In today’s episode my guest and I discuss how the parent-child relationship is an important component of any intervention. We also recognize the fine line between being a helicopter parent and a helpful parent and Dr. Franklin gives great advice on walking that fine line. This conversation will leave you feeling empowered and inspired.

 

Show Notes:

[3:37] - Research shows that many children who have a reading difficulty or diagnosed specific learning disability frequently have a behavioral difference as well, like ADHD.

[4:29] - Because of this overlap in learning difficulties, they are grouped under a broader umbrella of Language-Based Learning Disabilities.

[6:20] - We want to remember that the human brain, especially a child’s brain, is a social organ that functions best in a context of healthy, positive relationships.

[7:32] - Only when a child is in a calm, regulated state can they experience meaningful learning.

[9:41] - The difference between a helicopter parent and a helpful parent is that a helicopter parent provides help that is not needed.

[11:04] - When we need to provide more help, that is fine, but when help is no longer needed in an area, as parents, we need to step back.

[13:39] - Dr. Franklin gives some suggestions on how to help students with writing without being counterproductive.

[17:05] - Dr. Franklin emphasizes the importance of identifying underlying difficulties to provide students the correct instruction and intervention.

[18:04] - The hierarchy of reading support is discussed in Dr. Franklin’s book and he breaks it down briefly with Dr. Wilson.

[19:40] - Dr. Franklin was featured in a documentary called Unteachable by Anthony Sherin which focuses on the importance of student-teacher relationships.

[22:05] - Having a strong relationship with students is important in helping them develop self-confidence and reinforce a love of learning.

[24:58] - No two kids are the same. No two kids learn the same things in the same way at the same time.

[28:11] - Sharing your observations with teachers is important.

[30:47] - If you want to know what is going on in a child’s mind, observe their body. If they are slumped over, their brain is slumped, too.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Daniel Franklin is the author of Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities, and a co-editor of The Los Angeles Psychologist. He holds a master’s degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education and a PhD from UCLA in Education. Dr. Franklin has over 30 years of experience in education as a teacher, administrator, and educational consultant.

 

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31 Jan 2023Ep. 118: Understanding the Intersection Between Autism and LGBTQIA+ with Dr. Laurie Stephens00:31:04

Many topics of the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast come from parents and individuals who provide services to children. Today’s topic has come up more than once and our guest is able to shed some light on the intersection between autism and LGBTQIA+.

Dr. Laurie Stephens joins today to share the research on this overlap and what she sees herself as the Senior Director of Autism and Clinical Programs for The Help Group. Through her work with The Help Group, she has also developed an affirming community called Kaleidoscope which is offered in person and online. And she explains how we can better understand and support multi-minority status individuals with their own self-acceptance, their education, and their mental health.

 

Show Notes:

[1:55] - There’s no universal agreement on terms used, but it is important that the majority of the autistic community prefer identity-first language.

[4:03] - Many psychologists are seeing a trend in autistic adolescents.

[5:10] - There is recent research that shows the overlap of autism and identifying as gender diverse.

[6:39] - Something important to note is that because of the stigma surrounding LGBTQIA+, that the number of individuals is likely under-reported.

[8:21] - Dr. Stephens explains the differences between gender fluid, non-binary, and transgender.

[9:26] - Autistic individuals are less likely to be concerned with social norms and societal pressure.

[10:58] - Autistic people are advocating for society to accept their autism and neurodiversity which also leads to advocating for their gender diversity.

[12:01] - This population is oftentimes multi-minority status.

[13:29] - There are common mental health concerns that overlap in minority groups that are compounded when individuals are a part of more than one. 

[14:40] - Dr. Stephens describes some of the common misconceptions about autism.

[16:22] - Society needs to expand its view rather than autistic people masking to fit in.

[18:07] - Many adults are seeking an autism diagnosis later in life and many of those individuals identify as gender diverse. 

[19:21] - Females tend to be under diagnosed and most people ignore the autistic presentation in them. 

[21:05] - It’s important for mental health providers to be educated and trained to help autistic people. It’s not about treating their autism.

[22:51] - Dr. Stephens describes how she helps parents who come to her with the concern that they don’t know how to support their child.

[24:28] - Dr. Stephens began a program called Kaleidoscope.

[26:50] - Just one affirming person in your life can reduce suicidality by 60%.

[28:02] - The Help Group’s Kaleidoscope program is local to California, but all the social services and advocacy programs are offered online.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Laurie Stephens is a developmental psychologist who currently serves as the Senior Director of Autism and Clinical Programs for The Help Group. Dr. Stephens has been passionate about finding innovative and effective ways to work with autistic children, teens, young adults, and their families and communities since 1990. Among her accomplishments are having created Young Learners Preschool for Autism, founding the first post-doctoral fellowship in autism at The Help Group, starting the early diagnosis state-run autism clinic in New York, and creating a social skills curriculum for camps, schools, and clinics. She is a highly regarded public speaker and has spoken throughout the US, Canada, Japan, the UK, and Finland to name a few places. 

Prior to her current role with The Help Group, Dr. Stephens worked as the Director of Clinical Services at Education Spectrum, where she provided individual and group therapy, social skills classes, and psycho-educational and diagnostic testing. During this time, Dr. Stephens developed an interest in the overlap between gender diversity and ASD. She noted that many of her autistic clients were coming out as transgender, gender fluid, and non-binary. Dr. Stephens became passionate about finding the most effective ways to help these multi-minority status individuals find and accept their authentic selves while finding an affirming community. 

After 12 years of direct clinical service, Dr. Stephens returned to The Help Group to help them develop Kaleidoscope, the first of its kind LGBTQ+ program for children, teens, and adults who are also neurodivergent. She and her colleagues have established a specialty diagnostic clinic for transgender and non-binary folk who suspect they may also have ASD, the first of its kind on the west coast.

 

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Kaleidoscope supports LGBTQIA+/Questioning youth, young adults, and their families in building healthy relationships, strong social connections, and critically needed life skills. Through high quality, innovative programming, using the latest research and evidence-based programs, our mission is to help each person realize their unique potential and thrive!

To learn more about Kaleidoscope please visit www.kaleidoscopelgbtq.org or email kaleidoscope@thehelpgroup.org

 

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26 Jul 2022Ep. 91: Key Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD with Dr. Russell A. Barkley00:47:32

In today’s episode, we are revisiting an episode about Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) with the incredible Dr. Russell Barkley. He has officially retired this year after a career in making significant contributions to understanding ADHD. I was honored to have him on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast last year as an internationally recognized authority in ADHD and I know that this discussion is a great resource for parents, families, educators, and clinicians working with the child with ADHD.

Dr. Barkley is a clinical psychologist and a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine. He is also an author of numerous books particularly on the subject of ADHD and today we discuss his most recent book The 12 Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD, which I highly recommend. 

In addition to sharing his vast amount of knowledge, Dr. Barkley also shares how ADHD has affected his own family that has helped lead to his passion for understanding it and guiding others. He has been incredibly supportive of ChildNEXUS and was gracious enough to allow me to republish his ADHD fact sheets on our website.

So listen on to learn the science behind ADHD and several of the key principles for raising a child with the disorder. 

 

Show Notes:

[3:16] - The fourth edition of Dr. Barkley’s best selling book Taking Charge of ADHD: The Complete, Authoritative Guide for Parents became available in 2020. There is also a companion guide called The 12 Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD.

[3:56] - Dr. Barkley explains that a superficial definition of ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disability in the emergence of two mental functions that we all possess: the capacity to pay attention and the ability to inhibit excessive action.

[6:41] - When you look at ADHD beyond the superficial level, you can see how debilitating it can be.

[7:22] - Dr. Barkley explains the inhibition dimension of ADHD and how it appears in children with ADHD.

[9:37] - The hyperactivity we see not only affects movement, but also manifests as excessive talking and interrupting.

[10:06] - Another type of impulsivity that most people don’t talk about is motivational impulsivity.

[11:04] - Those with ADHD don’t value delayed gratification and consequences which can lead to problems with some types of intervention.

[13:00] - The emotional impulsivity in ADHD is different from mood disorders because the emotions are rational, just not controlled.

[14:20] - Many times, these impulsivities are missed especially when manifested in preschoolers with ADHD. 

[15:19] - Dr. Barkley describes how ADHD impacts a child’s executive functioning development from preschool onward. 

[16:46] - Across development, ADHD is first and foremost a self-regulation problem. Relative to your age, one is not able to do what their peers can.

[19:04] - What is normal age-appropriate behavior and what is cause for concern? ADHD begins where impairment begins.

[20:11] - The dimensionality is something that can cause a lot of confusion and misconceptions.

[22:20] - Raising a child with ADHD has been found through research to be as stressful and as challenging as raising a child with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

[23:32] - In the 1970s when Dr. Barkley entered the field, it was believed that ADHD came from bad parenting.

[25:14] - Dr. Barkley emphasizes the importance of finding strengths and aptitudes of a child with ADHD even if they are “outside the box.”

[27:12] - There are a lot of pathways to success and it's not all about making money. It is about finding something that is meaningful to you and following it. Those with ADHD can do that in spite of their difficulties.

[28:45] - The next step is to find opportunities in the community that help the child with ADHD with their aptitude. Develop the non-traditional aptitude and be in their corner all the time.

[30:04] - Focusing solely on excellence in school will not lead to success for children with ADHD.

[31:51] - Dr. Barkley discusses the importance of true acceptance and throwing your ideas of “good parenting” out the window.

[32:55] - Focusing on what is developmentally critical over the trivial can improve your relationship with your child.

[35:33] - Because of a strong relationship, when consequences become inevitable, you won’t be driving your child away.

[37:23] - Dr. Barkley’s book comes highly recommended for parents with practical strategies for raising a child with ADHD.

[38:21] - Why did Dr. Barkley write The 12 Principles of Raising a Child with ADHD?

[40:07] - The book is a great next step for parents after a diagnosis. 

[41:09] - Dr. Barkley shares the personal impact ADHD has had on him, including the death of his twin brother.

[43:07] - Time blindness is something people with ADHD really suffer with and can be very demoralizing and devastating if not understood.

 

About Our Guest:

Russell A. Barkley, Ph.D. is an internationally recognized authority on Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in children and adults who has dedicated his career to widely disseminating science-based information about ADHD.  He is currently a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine. Dr. Barkley has published numerous books, rating scales, and clinical manuals and more than 300 scientific articles and book chapters on ADHD and related disorders. He has presented more than 800 invited lectures in more than 30 countries, and he has appeared on nationally televised programs including 60 Minutes, the Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Sunday Morning, CNN, and other programs.

 

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07 Nov 2023Ep. 158: Why I Homeschool with Wendy Zanders00:27:38

Although today’s guest is a declutter coach and has been featured as a guest on the podcast before, she’s here for a completely different reason today. Today, Wendy Zanders is here in her role as a mom who homeschools.

This episode is a down-to-earth and realistic conversation about the popular topic of homeschooling. Wendy shares her journey, the ups and downs, the reasons behind her family’s decision, and the possibilities homeschooling has opened up for her children. 

If you are thinking about homeschooling or have questions about how you can homeschool more effectively, Wendy will have some answers in this conversation.

 

Show Notes:

[2:06] - Even though the homeschool journey for Wendy is for the whole family, both of her children are homeschooled differently.

[3:10] - Some families changed to homeschooling during the pandemic in 2020 and made the decision to continue.

[4:22] - Wendy shares the experience of meeting another family that was homeschooled and her daughter knew right away she wanted to be homeschooled as well.

[6:20] - It is okay to simply try homeschooling. If you don’t like it or it isn’t the right fit for your family, you can always go back to public school or find another option.

[7:48] - If you feel that you are not qualified or not feeling confident in a certain subject, you can find a tutor for support.

[9:19] - Wendy shares a bit about their structured school schedule and the things they do that are outside the traditional structure.

[10:49] - There are so many different options and you can make the decision that is best for you and your family.

[13:14] - Wendy shares the recent milestones for her children.

[15:26] - Through her son’s passion and interests, Wendy was able to create the perfect curriculum for him and he is now in a program for welding.

[17:10] - An important component of homeschooling is a community.

[19:14] - It is a myth that homeschooled children are missing out on the socialization opportunities provided in public schools.

[20:42] - There was a big mental shift that Wendy had to make. Unschooling has been the best fit for her and her family.

[23:52] - It is not at all required to spend a ton of money on a homeschool curriculum.

[25:30] - There doesn’t always have to be a dedicated school space in your home. Your kids may not learn that way.

 

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Wendy Zanders is a professional organizer, Your Declutter Coach, and a United States Army veteran. Her family has been homeschooling both kids since 2019. They are a special needs homeschooling family that loves to learn outside the box. Her 16-year-old son graduated and is now a professional welder pursuing a career in the automotive industry. Their 10-year-old wants to be a scientist, and they enjoy exploring that path with her. Wendy is the biggest cheerleader for her kids and their journeys. 

 

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19 Jan 2021Ep. 13: Assistive Technology for Students with Learning Disabilities with Avlyn Kotton00:38:03

Assistive technology has come a long way in the last thirty years. In the past, there was a stigma surrounding assistive technology that fortunately isn’t seen often today. With technology more accessible and a multitude of tools at our fingertips, students with all kinds of different needs are able to get the assistance they need to succeed.

 

But what is assistive technology? Today’s guest is Avlyn Kotton and in this episode, she not only describes what assistive technology is, but also gives many examples and links to great resources. As an educational therapist during the COVID-19 pandemic, Avlyn transitioned her clients to online learning with strategies and offers academic and emotional support to families trying to navigate the process of educating their children from home, while many parents need to continue to work. 

 

These strategies could be a game-changer for a lot of students and just the key they need to succeed.

 

Show Notes:

[4:09] - Assistive technology is any kind of tool to help a child to compensate for any type of learning deficit a child might have. Avlyn explains that it could be as simple as a pencil grip or as advanced as a software program.

[5:06] - As technology has progressed and has become more accessible to students, it has become easier to teach students to use assistive technology. There is less of a stigma of using them because it is common practice.

[6:21] - During the COVID-19 pandemic, Avlyn was already familiar with many programs and online platforms.

[7:41] - Avlyn describes how listening to an audiobook alongside the physical book with colored highlighters has helped many students with reading comprehension.

[9:18] - Audiobooks are also great for students who want a different modality to read.

[10:17] - Assistive technology is an equalizer. It gives students an opportunity to learn with the help that they need. Avlyn describes what this means and gives real-life examples.

[11:29] - It is also important that parents and teachers are shown how to use assistive technology to best implement them in the classroom.

[11:51] - Avlyn highly recommends Notability and Quizlet. She shares what these programs are great for.

[13:34] - Avlyn often suggests that some students are given the accommodation to use a calculator. This also relieves anxiety.

[15:28] - For writing, there are dictation programs. Microsoft Word also has this feature now.

[16:01] - When children talk, they tend to have better vocabulary and details than when they write. Dictation tools are great, but students will also need assistance with editing.

[17:11] - Avlyn describes how she uses 4 devices at a time to work with students and what this looks like during the time of remote learning.

[18:19] - There are many online learning platforms that offer a lot of different ways to interact through technology, including SeeSaw and Google Classroom.

[19:33] - Even for kids who are gifted and really competent learners, it is very difficult to navigate through online learning due to the need for executive functioning skills that are developed enough for their age.

[21:29] - Without the structure of school, it is a challenge for many students to transition between activities and lessons.

[22:26] - The biggest problem Avlyn is seeing is the higher levels of anxiety in students she works with. She shares her thoughts on why this is.

[23:31] - Avlyn describes another helpful site called Learning Ally which gives students with learning disabilities access to digital and audio textbooks.

[24:49] - In addition to assistive technology, students need to develop learning strategies. This is what Avlyn does as an educational therapist. 

[26:44] - The role of an educational therapist is to help with learning, but also as a support for parents.

[27:36] - Avlyn shares an inspiring story from a student applying for college.

[29:36] - Often there are times where parents of children with learning difficulties find that they had the same learning problems as children but didn’t have the tools to help.

[32:27] - The tools and professionals we have now are gifts for students to be able to reach their full potential.

[33:51] - One of the most important things is to work together as a team for the child - the parent, the educational therapist, the teacher, the school, etc.




About Our Guest:

Avlyn has thirty years’ experience working with both public and private school students from Kindergarten to High School who have learning differences including Dyslexia, Dysgraphia, Dyscalculia, ADHD, Executive Functioning Deficits, and other learning differences. Avlyn has been an active member of the Association of Educational Therapists and has presented at national conferences on the identification of learning disabilities and assistive technology skills. Areas of focus also include Test Preparation and Study Skills as well as School Placement. Collaborating as part of a multi-disciplinary team with classroom teachers, learning specialists, support professionals and parents helps to ensure that the needs of a student are being addressed and necessary accommodations can be implemented. 

 

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27 Jul 2021Ep. 40: Lifestyle Activities That Can Improve ADHD Symptoms with Dr. Joel Nigg00:36:46

We have seen an increase in ADHD referrals and diagnoses in the last year. Many parents reported an increase in ADHD symptoms in children who were diagnosed before the COVID-19 pandemic, and some parents wondered whether their child has ADHD after watching their child learn from home. It is important to note that while many children and families struggled during the pandemic, others thrived.  As we head back to school in the fall, what are the experts saying about ADHD and what can caregivers do to support their children through another transition?

 

Today’s guest is Dr. Joel Nigg, Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience at Oregon Health and Science University and author of the book Getting Ahead of ADHD. In this episode, Dr. Nigg offers great insight and describes studies done about ADHD specifically and gives actionable steps to take now to help prepare children for heading back to school. We discuss things to look for regarding ADHD symptoms and some simple changes in our daily routines as families that can make a huge impact. Dr. Nigg is doing fantastic work with the OHSU Center for ADHD Research and I am thrilled to have him on the podcast today to better equip parents and families for transitioning to another year of learning.

 

Show Notes:

[2:40] - There has been an increase in parents seeking evaluations for ADHD after seeing children learn from home.

[3:32] - Dr. Nigg shares some data that shows the impact of distance learning during the COVID-19 pandemic across the world.

[4:46] - For those already diagnosed with ADHD, services were challenging during the pandemic and school closures.

[6:10] - You lose the advantage of a teacher’s perspective when learning from home. Demands at home from a parent are much different than those in the classroom.

[7:27] - Dr. Nigg recommends seeking services for the difficulties the child is experiencing right now and seek a diagnosis and treatment after heading back to school.

[8:54] - Self care has been difficult for many during COVID with increased stress levels. Dr. Nigg gives examples of some lifestyle changes people can make to help them cope with stress.

[10:24] - A valuable goal is to think hard about structuring your day to fit self care in.

[12:08] - Another factor that impacts mental health is sleep and the quality of rest.

[13:37] - We are all used to staying up late and not working with a strict schedule. Take a look at the amount of sleep your child needs for their age and create good habits.

[14:45] - The key is to shift the thinking around sleep to be positive. Counselors can help with this transition.

[15:46] - Parental modeling is difficult in the area of sleep. Another thing that is often lost is down time for family time together.

[17:16] - During COVID, screen time increased. Dr. Nigg gives suggestions on monitoring screen time and how it impacts sleep.

[19:37] - Family rules for a screen-free bedtime are hard to follow, but they are important.

[20:39] - Dr. Nigg addresses the claim that high levels of screen time causes ADHD.

[22:10] - Media content needs to be monitored for children and teens even though it is a part of their social experience.

[24:00] - Dr. Nigg recommends that screen time comes after basic needs are met.

[25:01] - Children with ADHD are more inclined to experience depression and anxiety. This trend was apparent during the COVID-19 pandemic.

[26:11] - Experiences during the recent pandemic will have a lasting effect. Some will be good and some effects may be negative.

[27:49] - There is still going to be COVID-related stress as students head back to school.

[29:18] - Children need to be prepared for possible changes again as they go back to school in the Fall. There’s still uncertainty.

[30:41] - School from home and school in the classroom will have varying risks.

[32:12] - Medical centers around the world have websites with tons of resources. They will also have current and updated recommendations and guidelines.

[33:21] - Dr. Nigg’s book is a great resource for parents of children with ADHD.

[33:46] - Dr. Nigg describes the new OHSU Center for ADHD Research and their current campaign and donation matching.

 

About Our Guest:

Joel Nigg, Ph.D., is a Professor of Psychiatry and Behavioral Neuroscience, Vice Chair for Psychology, and Director of the Center for ADHD Research at Oregon Health & Science University in Portland, Oregon. He obtained his AB at Harvard College, MSW at The University of Michigan, and PhD in Clinical Psychology at the University of California at Berkeley. He is a licensed clinical psychologist with clinical experience in multiple settings. He is a leading researcher in the area of developmental psychopathology with a focus on ADHD. He is the author of 2 books on ADHD including a recent book written for parents: Getting Ahead of ADHD: What Next-Generation Science Says about Treatments that Work and How you can Make them Work for Your Child. His work has been funded continuously by NIMH for over 20 years. The recipient of several awards, Dr. Nigg has served on the editorial boards of several leading scientific journals.

 

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05 Mar 2024Ep. 175: How to Support Students Who Struggle with Writing with Shanna Trombetta00:32:02

When it comes to writing, there is so much happening behind the scenes. It is so much more than sitting down, grabbing a pencil, and putting words on paper. In today's episode, we'll explore the challenges students face when it comes to writing. From motor skills to executive functioning, today’s guest explains the complexities of the writing process. 

Shanna Trombetta is an Educational Therapist and she joins the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast to help us better understand not only the writing process and the challenges students face, but also ways we can support struggling students at home and in the classroom. She shares practical strategies and insights to empower parents and educators in guiding children through the whirlwind of creativity, skill, and determination that is writing.

 

Show Notes:

[3:16] - A lot of learners who come into Shanna’s practice struggle with writing.

[4:24] - Shanna describes some of the things that are commonly a struggle when it comes to writing. There’s so much happening at one time.

[5:39] - It is common for students to have a lot of great ideas, but the mechanics of writing hold them up, and they wind up not writing anything.

[7:32] - One way to support kids with writing is by providing them with a structure.

[9:37] - People who don’t struggle with executive functioning can typically create their own structure. But many kids need to be shown how to organize their information.

[11:24] - When she works with students, Shanna helps them develop and use tools.

[13:08] - What is background knowledge and why is it important for writing?

[15:01] - Shanna describes writing around themes to help with structure.

[16:57] - Chunking is a great strategy that helps students take one step at a time.

[19:01] - Keeping a checklist as they write is another tool that can alleviate the stress of keeping track of things in their mind.

[21:00] - Assessment data is really helpful for Shanna so she knows to target some of the spelling patterns that are a challenge for a student.

[23:16] - So often students know what they want to write about. Strategies to get the information out are not “cheating.”

[26:22] - Writing is an area where many students experience stress. Make it fun.

[28:30] - While struggling, it is hard to remain motivated. Shanna shares some ways to keep students positive while they’re learning.

 

About Our Guest:

Shanna Trombetta is an Educational Therapist affiliated with the Association of Educational Therapists, dedicated to serving the community of Los Angeles. Shanna holds a Master's in Educational Psychology and a B.A. in Special Education/Psychology from Marist College. Additionally, she holds an Educational Therapy Certification from UC Riverside, a CLEAR credential from the California Commission of Teacher Credentialing (grades K-6), and CLAD certification. She serves on the International Dyslexia Association Chapter of Los Angeles Board and is a Child Nexus member. With a rich background spanning over two decades, Shanna has excelled as a classroom teacher, literacy coach, private homeschool educator, and currently, as an Educational Therapist, offering a depth of expertise in her private practice. Specializing in supporting neurodiverse children, addressing dyslexia, and navigating language-based disabilities, Shanna is unwavering in her dedication to creating inclusive and effective learning environments. In her free time, Shanna treasures moments spent with her two daughters, husband, and Australian labradoodle. A passionate book enthusiast, she often finds solace at the beach with a captivating read.

 

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19 Sep 2023Ep. 151: Parenting with ADHD: Insights and Inspiration with Holly Blanc Moses00:32:01

Many parents see themselves in their children. And when a child is evaluated and diagnosed with ADHD, some parents realize that they have had the same struggles. Research shows that as many as 1 in 5 people have ADHD and because we know that the heritability of ADHD is about 80%, the odds that many adults are struggling with undiagnosed ADHD are high. With this realization, many parents are receiving an ADHD diagnosis during adulthood and like today’s guest, their struggles make a lot of sense.

Holly Blanc Moses returns to the podcast today to share her own experience with a late diagnosis of ADHD. We also discuss what it’s like parenting when you yourself have ADHD and what strategies are helpful for navigating the parent and life journey.

Holly is the host of The Autism ADHD Podcast where she describes this experience, offers support and resources for parents, and continues to navigate her own parenting journey of two neurodivergent children.

 

Show Notes:

[2:13] - Welcome back, Holly!

[3:51] - Holly learned that she struggled because of undiagnosed ADHD and opened up about it on her podcast The Autism ADHD Podcast.

[5:50] - Holly reflects back on her childhood and the struggles that make more sense now that she understands her diagnosis.

[7:37] - The symptoms are different in girls and women because they are so good at masking. Symptoms are often overlooked.

[9:14] - Many adults who have gone undiagnosed have created a story in their minds that they aren’t good enough.

[11:01] - Holly describes her experience in realizing that she likely has ADHD and why she sought an evaluation for herself.

[12:28] - The completion of the evaluation and the diagnosis of ADHD was such a relief for Holly.

[14:30] - Some tasks for Holly are still very hard, but she is able to focus without distraction on her interests.

[15:53] - A lot of parents become concerned that they can’t help manage their child’s ADHD if they can’t manage their own.

[19:22] - Many women with ADHD also struggle with perfectionism.

[21:55] - We have to be patient with ourselves and stop beating ourselves up. We have to look at a lot and be okay with not getting everything done.

[26:05] - Don’t try to be something that you are not.

[27:21] - Mindfulness is important.

[30:03] - Connect with Holly through her podcast The Autism ADHD Podcast.

 

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Holly Blanc Moses is a neurodivergent therapist, coach, and online course creator who specializes in supporting neurodivergent children, teens, adults, and their families. Over the last 23 years, she has provided mental and behavioral health services in the areas of emotional regulation, anxiety, depression, social interaction, and school success. Holly is the host of the popular podcast - The Autism ADHD Podcast. She is the owner of Crossvine Counseling in Raleigh, NC, a therapy group specializing in evaluations and therapy for neurodivergent individuals and she is also the mother of two neurodivergent boys.

 

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24 Dec 2024Ep. 217: Assessing Learning Differences in Bilingual Students & Students in Dual Language Programs with Dr. Vindia Fernandez00:35:02

Joining us for this episode of the podcast is Dr. Vindia Fernandez, who has been on the show before back in episode 3. Dr. Fernandez earned her Ph.D. in clinical psychology from the University of Houston and completed her APA-accredited internship and fellowship at UCLA, specializing in neurodevelopmental issues like autism, ADHD, and learning disabilities. As founder of the Center for Pediatric Neuropsychology and director at UCLA’s Cultural Neuropsychology Program, her focus is on culturally appropriate evaluations for Latino/a children and teaching social skills to neurodiverse youth.

Dr. Fernandez discusses how bilingualism in children is often misunderstood and that it’s usually good for cognitive development. She also elaborates upon some red flags when it comes to identifying possible learning disabilities such as dyslexia and how her procedures differ depending on whether or not the bilingual child is in an English-only classroom or if the child is in a dual language immersion program. She reflects on some of her frustrations around how bilingual children are assessed and what she hopes to see change in the future.

While we have certainly seen great strides and progress in this area, there is still much work to do, such as honoring heritage languages, increasing integration, and identifying problems earlier. Dr. Fernandez is a wealth of knowledge on this topic, and her passion truly shines through. 

Show Notes:

[2:40] - Assessing bilingual children is a true passion for Dr. Fernandez.
[3:44] - She feels that bilingualism in children is often misunderstood.
[5:22] - Learning another language is incredibly dynamic and complex and is different for every child.
[7:06] - Vindia reflects on a recent change of more children engaged in dual language immersion programs.
[9:55] - What red flags should be paid attention to that don’t tend to be problems with monolingual children?
[13:11] - Vindia explains why her procedures differ depending on whether the bilingual child is in a dual language immersion program.
[15:46] - Vindia explains why assessments might need to be done in both of a child’s languages.
[18:07] - What role do language disorders play in bilingual children?
[21:28] - We ultimately want these children to be confident and to reach milestones.
[24:15] - “You teach to the skill that you want to see improvement in.”
[27:16] - Dr. Fernandez mentions that 50-75% of behavior therapy involves parents. 
[30:55] - She gives some helpful advice to parents.

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30 Apr 2024Ep. 183: Unlocking Potential: A Dyslexia Journey with Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey00:33:38

Welcome to today's episode, where we turn the spotlight to dyslexia awareness and advocacy, featuring the remarkable journey of Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey. Rosalin's story is nothing short of inspiring as she navigates her own experience with dyslexia to become an advocate for change for dyslexic individuals across Africa and beyond. From struggling in academics to finding her passion in culinary school, Rosalin's personal journey highlights the importance of understanding and embracing neurodiversity. 

Through her organization, the Africa Dyslexia Organization (ADO), Rosalin is making an impact on dyslexia awareness, advocacy, and support. However, there are many barriers, including societal beliefs in African countries and lack of teacher resources. In this episode, Rosalin shares her own struggles and triumphs with dyslexia, including the pivotal moments that brought dyslexia to her own awareness and understanding. Rosalin's dedication to raising awareness and providing essential tools for educators and parents is truly inspiring and much needed in a world where dyslexia continues to be misunderstood.

Show Notes:

  • [2:35] - Rosalin always struggled in academics and knew from a young age that she was different. She explains why she has dedicated her life to dyslexia advocacy.
  • [5:27] - Due to her struggles, Rosalin was not permitted to take exams to move forward into high school in Ghana.
  • [7:10] - Rosalin chose to go to culinary school and this was a turning point for her. It was the first time she was in an environment where she loved to learn.
  • [9:12] - She describes the first time a school administrator told her something positive. This turned her life around.
  • [11:58] - As an adult, Rosalin had an assessment done and discovered her dyslexia.
  • [13:05] - In her travels across Africa, Rosalin has found that there is little to no understanding about dyslexia.
  • [15:07] - Rosalin has dedicated her life to spreading awareness of dyslexia in African countries.
  • [18:16] - Rosalin’s organization is taking steps to prevent the wasting of valuable talents among dyslexic individuals.
  • [21:12] - Inclusivity is crucial. Students with dyslexia need the same opportunities and support to thrive.
  • [23:01] - Teacher training and resources for educators is a huge focus for the Africa Dyslexia Organization.
  • [24:50] - Reaching out to the Ministries of Education in different locations in Africa is very difficult. Rosalin describes some of the barriers the organization faces.
  • [26:39] - This is a global problem. There are people who are neurodivergent everywhere that need to understand the way they learn.
  • [29:24] - Even with resources and awareness in the United States, students still fall behind and continue to face barriers to quality education and support.

About Our Guest:

Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey Rosalin is an unwavering advocate for dyslexic individuals and the Founder and Executive Director of Africa Dyslexia Organization (ADO), non-profit organization is dedicated to raising awareness, advocacy, providing essential educational tools to teachers and parents, and offering support for individuals grappling with dyslexia and related learning disabilities.

Rosalin holds an MSc in International Hospitality Management from Swiss Hotel Management School in Switzerland. She is Walt Disney Hospitality Leadership Fellow and currently a Lead Consultant at iQ Mundo and Country Rep for Swiss Education Group in Ghana, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Her multifaceted expertise and her commitment to inclusive education position her as a beacon of hope, igniting positive change for dyslexic individuals across Africa.

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08 Aug 2023Ep. 145: Advocating for Children with Special Needs with Heather Zakson00:51:49

Are you concerned about whether your child has made meaningful progress over the last year in school? Today’s guest is an incredible special education attorney who is passionate about advocating for children and adults. You can hear the passion in her voice throughout this entire episode and she brings to light a lot of concerns as we begin the transition to heading back to the brick and mortar classroom environment.

Our guest, Heather Zakson, is a special education attorney.  She answers a plethora of questions in this episode, shares staggering statistics, explains legislation and federal funding, and encourages all parents to strongly advocate for their children.

 

Show Notes:

[3:01] - The transition going back to school is a front and center concern for a lot of families.

[5:10] - Distance learning unlocked more tools and opportunities for many students. 

[7:57] - Data is our stock and trade in special education. We need the information to compare data over time to see what’s working.

[8:59] - A lot of work is done on screen and not kept in a paper format. Heather recommends always taking a screenshot of work to archive a child’s progress.

[11:49] - Don’t think of assessments as something dictated only by schools.

[12:46] - A psychological assessment will give us information on what intervention and support is needed.

[13:44] - When seeking a private assessment, you have the control on who to conduct the testing and who to share the information with.

[14:33] - If you are unable to have a private assessment done, Heather explains how it works through the school system. You can ask for a second opinion.

[17:20] - Although we have seen the good things that have come from distance learning, there are many students who have suffered with great educational loss.

[18:25] - Heather advises that if you think there is something wrong, follow your gut.

[19:40] - All public schools have the ability to assess.

[21:38] - When a child is behind, moving forward without support will just make them fall farther behind. Early intervention is crucial.

[23:10] - When you are out there advocating for your child, don’t take no for an answer. 

[27:53] - We know how to support children with social difficulties and with appropriate support, they can have a completely different educational experience.

[30:54] - Heather explains what recoupment means and how this affects the near future of special education.

[32:46] - Children with learning disabilities are legally entitled to remediation.

[34:22] - When there is a reading and/or language delay, there needs to be evidence-based targeted reading instruction.

[37:18] - Information doesn’t hurt anyone. It doesn’t put labels on anyone.

[40:28] - Dyslexia screening should be a mandatory part of assessment early on for every student.

[41:10] - What is SB 488 and how will it affect university programs for teachers?

[44:50] - The Right to Read Project and Decoding Dyslexia are highly recommended to look into by both Heather and Karen.

[46:27] - Every year is different when it comes to funding. Heather explains the push for federal funding for special education. 

[48:19] - The real test of our educational system is how we support our students who struggle the most.

[49:02] - Every child is entitled to an appropriate education and remediation of learning disabilities when appropriate.

 

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Heather Zakson represents children and adults in special education, Regional Center and discrimination cases and provides expert consultation on complex custody and guardianship matters. She is widely recognized for her creativity and tenacity on behalf of those whose rights have been violated and needs have gone unmet. She is a graduate of UCLA School of Law and Brandeis University, and has been practicing law for 18 Years.

 

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12 Mar 2024Ep. 176: Does Your Child Need an Academic Success Playbook? with Jacqueline Olivier00:34:59

Many families struggle knowing what to do when their child or teen suddenly starts failing school and academics or lacks motivation to learn. These challenges can be difficult to navigate as a parent, especially for a parent of a neurodivergent child.

Today’s guest has an incredible resource that turns this challenge into an opportunity for parents and families. Dr. Jacqueline Olivier is the founder of Blue Marble Learning Center and she has created an Academic Success Playbook. This isn’t a one-size-fits-all guide. These are personalized and customized guides based on the learning needs of the student and what type of support the parents and families need. Not only that, but these playbooks are interactive and include referrals and even more resources to give parents the information and support they need to help their children thrive.

In today’s episode, Jacqueline explains how the playbook works, what she takes into account when customizing them for students, and how impactful they have been for neurodivergent children and their families.

 

Show Notes:

[2:34] - Jacqueline explains what she does in her role at Blue Marble Learning Center.

[3:57] - We see the best outcomes when a team of people works together to help the student.

[5:06] - The most impactful part of Jacqueline’s work is helping students understand how they learn.

[7:15] - Parents don’t have a guide for parenting and helping their children. And for neurodivergent children, they have to help them navigate a world that was not built for them.

[8:49] - Many times, parents see the results of an evaluation and they think the diagnosis is the golden ticket. Jacqueline explains this gap.

[11:20] - What does a success playbook look like? Jacqueline designs these for parents after a diagnosis. It is an individualized and interactive document.

[13:55] - Jacqueline describes a scenario with a student who benefited by having a playbook.

[17:50] - Every parent’s situation is different. Some will be able to dive into understanding their diagnosis and some will not be able to. The playbook is customized per family.

[22:35] - The playbook also gives parents and families an awareness and understanding of what to expect in the school environment and personalized strategies.

[26:06] - Jacqueline creates a personalized playbook and provides more resources and referrals for parents and families.

[31:02] - When Jacqueline began offering academic playbooks, she learned just how needed this resource is.



About Our Guest:

Dr. Jacqueline Olivier is the founder of Blue Marble Learning Center. She has an extensive background in educational therapy, working with neurodivergent students, curriculum design, teaching, consulting, instructional leadership, and senior administration in independent and start-up schools. Jacqueline’s areas of expertise include working with children and teens who have been diagnosed with dyslexia, ADHD, Asperger’s, language-based learning disabilities, test-taking anxiety, academic anxiety, dyscalculia, processing disorders, and executive functioning challenges. She provides academic support in mathematics, writing, entrance exams (ISEE, SAT), college essays, and other subjects.

 

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21 Mar 2023Ep. 125: Does Your Teen Need a Transition Assessment? with Dr. Gwen Palafox00:39:28

What is a transition assessment, and how do you know if your child needs one? If they do, when do they need it and what does it look like? There are a lot of questions about transition assessments and today we have the perfect guest to answer them all.

Today, we welcome back Dr. Gwennyth Palafox (Dr. Gwen) to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. Dr. Gwen is a clinical psychologist and a fierce ally of neurodiverse and disabled individuals and has supported their wonderful families and support systems for over 25 years. She’s laser-focused (and borderline obsessed) about empowering through reliable knowledge, creativity, and skill-building. She loves curating and collecting tools, sharing mindsets, and promoting habits to help the neurodiverse community thrive and find joy and meaning in their lives.

Listen on to learn about what transition assessments entail, why they are important, and why you want to start transition planning early on.

 

Show Notes:

[3:01] - The idea of transition is change. Change is not something that is abrupt, especially when it comes to development.

[4:04] - Ideally, transition planning should happen when high school begins.

[6:10] - “What does it take to live as an autonomous, fully independent adult?”

[7:29] - For students with an IEP, they need an ITP. Dr. Gwen explains what that is and how many students don’t know about it.

[9:07] - This assessment must include more than where your child is academically.

[10:03] - Dr. Gwen shares the most important skills for transition.

[12:52] - When these skills are solid or at least emergent and we are focusing on the process of living in this world as an adult, we get postsecondary results.

[14:58] - Skills are only built by experience.

[17:31] - High school should be preparing students for adult life.

[19:28] - Transition assessments and psycho-educational diagnostics are very different.

[21:01] - Learning, living, and working are the three components of a transition assessment.

[24:03] - Where we lose sight of the data is when we don’t paint a qualitative picture of where the person is today.

[27:17] - Good transition assessments connect to activities and community resources with the goal in mind of what comes next after high school.

[28:49] - The student needs to be involved in this process.

[31:01] - We need to presume competence when communicating to the student.

[33:01] - Dr. Gwen always includes something in the transition assessment recommendations that parents and teachers can begin doing immediately.

[35:22] - Assessment results can be overwhelming to families and having a transition plan early ensures that there’s enough time for support.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Gwen is a licensed psychologist who has been actively changing the lives of individuals with neurodevelopmental disabilities for over two decades. She is laser-focused on promoting the happiness and wellbeing of disabled teens and adults and is a fierce ally of disabled individuals and their families. Dr. Gwen has shared her expertise in local and global workshops, at a TEDx event, as an expert witness, and in collaboration with other engaged and radically awesome professionals. Her clients are wonderfully complex, unique, and awesome. She says that out-of-the-box thinking, creativity, grit, and compassion are some of the best tools that she has.

 

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30 Aug 2022Ep. 96: Why Early Intervention is Important with Tania Abouezzeddine00:41:25

Why is intervention, particularly early intervention, so important? The answer is brain plasticity, which is the brain’s ability to change, reorganize, and even develop more efficient pathways for processing information. Research into the neurological bases of reading disorders, for example, has shown the educational and cognitive strategies can reroute brain networks and the brain can reorganize to overcome reading obstacles. Today’s guest shares with us all about early intervention.

Dr. Tania Abouezzeddine is a licensed Clinical Neuropsychologist and is also a faculty member at Rosemead School of Psychology at Biola University. In today’s episode she explains why early intervention is key and how it results in positive changes in the brain. She not only shares why early intervention is important but how it impacts the development of the brain and the science behind it all.

 

Show Notes:

[2:45] - It is important to understand why a child is struggling before deciding on the intervention.

[3:31] - Any good intervention begins with an accurate diagnosis or assessment.

[4:28] - What makes a good assessment?

[5:52] - A lot of times, children are more likely to be labeled with behavior disorders.

[6:55] - Tania shares research surrounding behavior disorders diagnosed to particular demographics that result in a negative trajectory.

[9:09] - Tania describes some of the negative results of an inaccurate diagnosis or assessment.

[10:18] - If an intervention has not begun by age 8, a child with a reading disorder will likely not bridge the gap in their reading.

[11:48] - Reading disorders are hereditary.

[14:03] - There is evidence that you can change the brain through good, consistent, and intense intervention.

[15:19] - External interventions result in a positive change in the brain.

[16:24] - The purpose of interventions is not to have a better reading score.

[17:43] - Every brain is working at its own pace, but it will improve with intervention and depends on the severity of the disorder.

[19:02] - There’s a high percentage of children with more than one disorder.

[20:17] - The child also needs to understand why an intervention is necessary.

[21:59] - Tania works with high school graduates in college who have not been diagnosed and still cannot read independently. That window of time has been missed.

[23:23] - Training the brain through early intervention can create new brain pathways that are similar to a child without a disorder over time.

[24:46] - Sometimes parents are afraid to know and they avoid an assessment.

[26:14] - Early intervention is also important because you can catch these problems before a child becomes jaded.

[27:50] - The identification of strengths can help the intervention as well.

[30:49] - Knowing strengths shows the child that their weaknesses don’t define them.

[32:19] - What happens when a child doesn’t receive positive early intervention?

[34:25] - We all have things we are not good at, but when it comes to reading and learning disorders they can have negative ramifications.

[36:02] - Tania shares examples of students who choose majors or professions based on areas of weakness rather than their strengths.

[38:41] - Students can also receive a charted plan to help with prioritizing.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Abouezzeddine is a licensed Clinical Neuropsychologist (across the lifespan with a specialty in Pediatrics) and is a full-time faculty member at Rosemead School of Psychology at Biola University. She obtained her doctoral degree from the University of Southern California where she specialized in childhood trauma and resilience, which continue to be areas of research interest. After the completion of her doctoral studies, Dr. Abouezzeddine went on to specialize in Clinical Neuropsychology, beginning with a clinical internship in Geriatric Neuropsychology at the West Los Angeles VA Medical Center and continuing on with two additional years of clinical postdoctoral studies in Pediatric Neuropsychology at UCLA’s Semel Institute of Neuroscience. Dr. Abouezzeddine specializes in the cognitive assessment of children and adolescents with neurodevelopmental disorders (e.g. ADHD, Autism), Learning Disabilities (e.g. Reading, Math), as well as cognitive impairments related to Traumatic Brain injury or and other medical conditions (e.g. epilepsy). She also occasionally assesses adults and older adults in Arabic schedule permitting. She is fluent in both English and Arabic. 

 

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15 Aug 2023Ep. 146: How Parents and Educators Can Collaborate to Help Students Thrive with Shelley Lawrence00:34:11

For many families, it is hard to hear that your child has been struggling in school. Some parents may already know or have a feeling their child is struggling.  They have even received assessment results, only to feel worried about the negative stigma or sharing that information with their school. Today, we are re-airing a discussion about the importance of collaboration between parents, families, and educators.

Today’s guest is Shelley Lawrence and she comes to us with two decades worth of experience as a school administrator. In this episode, her experience shines and she shares her knowledge of how evaluations are used in schools, what to expect after an evaluation is completed, and she really drives home the need for developing a team. Feeling worried is absolutely a normal reaction, but communicating the needs of your child to schools and educators can make a world of difference in their educational progress.

 

Show Notes:

[2:03] - The parent/educator relationship is so important.

[4:36] - It’s not about a diagnosis. The purpose is to better understand why a child is struggling.

[6:24] - Shelley shares a story of a student she worked with and demonstrates how the teachers’ knowledge of weaknesses helped him.

[7:56] - Phrasing this information in a certain way can bolster student confidence. 

[8:45] - Strengths and weaknesses are harder to determine in some students.

[9:56] - As an administrator, Shelley has found that many parents are worried about the negative stigma of having an IEP or 504 plan.

[11:40] - When an evaluation is recommended, Shelley explains that many parents are worried about going through with it.

[13:31] - It is normal to feel worried, but educators can rephrase the need for an evaluation.

[14:47] - Every family Dr. Wilson and Shelley have worked with do not regret the assessment process and getting their child the support they need.

[17:29] - After completing an evaluation, it is important to break it down based on priorities.

[18:51] - Everyone needs to be working together, including the parents and teachers.

[20:43] - Some parents are also concerned about making more work for teachers, but teachers want and need to know how to help their students.

[22:20] - What should parents expect from the school after an evaluation?

[25:01] - Look beyond the IEP goals. Parent and teacher observations are markers of progress as well.

[27:50] - Sometimes progress is very slow. Different interventions can be implemented.

[29:20] - The point is to make sure the child is learning rather than spinning their wheels.

[32:20] - Emphasizing that it is a team that helps the child can make things more impactful for parents and educators.

 

About Our Guest:

As an Independent School administrator for two decades, Shelley Lawrence had the unique experience of working with families of students who were striving to succeed in school. She is adamant in her belief that, with the proper supports in place, all children can succeed in school. Shelley brings her passion for children, her strong connections with outside providers in the community, her keen observation and listening skills and her understanding of the complexities of learning, to help families navigate the school journey with their child. In addition, Shelley is a trained advocate who can help families navigate the IEP process.

 

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22 Dec 2020Ep. 9: How Occupational Therapy Helps Kids00:39:35

Now more than ever, many parents and families are seeking support. Maybe your child is struggling with distance learning. Maybe your child is having difficulty with self-regulation. Or, maybe things are just hard and you don’t know why. Sound about right? This is such a challenging time and that is why I am so excited to bring today’s guest to the Diverse Thinking · Different Learning Podcast.

Today my guest is Leah Hiller, a pediatric occupational therapist, an educational consultant, and a former Jewish day school teacher. She not only breaks down what occupational therapy is, how it works, and how it can benefit a child, but she gives us a toolkit of amazing opportunities to help our children thrive. Some of her recommendations I plan to try with my own children! 

So listen on to find out more about occupational therapy, what occupational therapists do, and some sensory strategies that help kids self-regulate.

 

Show Notes:

[2:18] - Leah defines occupations as things that we do everyday. As an occupational therapist, her job is to help kids thrive in their daily occupations. This could be a variety of things that differ per child.

[3:15] - Now more than ever, Leah says that the struggle she is seeing the most is self-regulation. This is not a surprise as we are in a challenging time with the COVID-19 pandemic.

[4:16] - Now that parents are working more closely with their children with homeschooling and distance learning, the problems that may have been hinted at by a teacher in the past are more noticeable and parents are seeking support.

[4:59] - Leah also works with children that are labeled with autism, motor delays, and ADHD.

[5:54] - Occupational therapists look at things a little differently as they are looking at function. 

[6:49] - Because so many aspects of our lives have changed with the pandemic, struggles may show up. Children may have been functioning well in their normal routine but may have difficulty in some areas now.

[8:14] - Although the pandemic is awful, this could be used as an opportunity for parents and children to identify these difficulties and find a toolkit to help address them.

[9:31] - Leah shares Proprioceptive “Zoom” Breaks which can help get kids in the “just right” zone. She explains the science behind them and gives examples.

[11:33] - Another important thing we need to make sure we’re explicit about with children is why the Zoom breaks are important. 

[12:29] - By having a conversation with your child about taking these breaks to do something active with our bodies is great modeling and validating for them.

[14:41] - The strategies Leah shares are great recommendations for educators who are navigating through distance and virtual learning as well.

[15:38] - Leah shares a story about how this time is a great opportunity to troubleshoot. One size fits all does not apply here.

[17:11] - Flexibility is key. The learning environment for each child will be different because each child has different needs.

[18:50] - The flexibility also gives your child the opportunity to self-regulate. With collaboration, kids will discover what works best for them and what doesn’t work.

[20:41] - Leah and Karen discuss The Executive C.H.E.F.S. program, and Leah defines what executive functioning is.

[22:39] - Leah started bringing her kids into the process of making dinner and realized all of the tasks to cook used fine motor skills.

[23:43] - In addition to fine motor skills, Leah noticed an increase in different vocabulary and the willingness to try new things.

[24:49] - After trying OT through Zoom, Leah shifted to cooking with her families online and it was so much more effective. 

[25:50] - Because it didn’t address social skills, Leah created The Executive C.H.E.F.S. program as a group of kids that cooked together in a virtual setting to discuss what they were doing and eating.

[28:56] - The program helped parents as well by giving a slight relief in their dinner routine.

[29:48] - In addition to the C.H.E.F.S. program, Leah ran a parent workshop for executive functioning, which helped parents take a step back.

[31:28] - Making mistakes is part of the learning process and we need to normalize that to give our children the opportunity to thrive.

[32:01] - Leah and Karen discuss the “just right” challenge which is applicable in all areas of life.

[34:34] - Leah feels that she feels like she makes an impact and is the most successful when she can take a step back and the kids can function on their own and when kids can teach each other.

 

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Leah Hiller provides teachers and parents with the strategies, support, and evidence-based resources to help children thrive at home, school, and play. In addition to providing individualized OT services in her private practice, Leah offers workshops for parents and educators, and she teaches graduate courses in special education. Leah lives in Los Angeles with her family, and her OT therapy studio is located in a natural setting - her backyard.

 

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01 Oct 2024Ep. 205: Understanding ADHD Assessments00:12:23

In today’s episode, I’m focusing on a topic that impacts millions of children, teens, and adults: ADHD assessments. ADHD is a chronic condition that often persists throughout life, so understanding the assessment process is crucial for setting families up for long-term success. I’ll be diving into various aspects of this process, exploring the multiple steps involved to ensure that the diagnosis is thorough and accurate. From clinical interviews to lifestyle assessments, there are several key factors that play a role in understanding ADHD and its impact on a person’s daily life.

Listen to learn the steps in an ADHD assessment, why each step is important, and how this evidence-based approach ensures that children and families receive the support they need.

Show Notes:

[1:36] - ADHD is often diagnosed in childhood. It is not something children grow out of.

[2:29] - Assessments include multiple steps, beginning with a thorough clinical interview.

[3:58] - A lifestyle assessment is important as well and includes looking into sleep habits, diet, and screen use.

[5:59] - It is also a part of an ADHD assessment to review a child’s functioning across multiple settings.

[7:35] - ADHD is never diagnosed based on test scores alone.

[8:24] - You do not need a neuropsychological assessment to diagnose ADHD.

[9:28] - No ADHD assessment is complete without a feedback session.

[11:33] - This evidence-based approach ensures that children and families receive an accurate diagnosis and the right support.

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07 Sep 2021Ep. 46: How ABA Can Help Kids Naturalistically Learn Skills with Nicole Ballinghoff00:32:34

Applied Behavioral Science, or ABA, has been a hot topic for the last few years and has become somewhat controversial. To help us understand it better, I’ve invited Nicole Ballinghoff to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast today. 

 

Nicole Ballinghoff has over 15 years experience and is passionate about ABA. She has seen firsthand the impact it has made on the lives of individuals with autism and their families. While most of the clients she works with are on the autism spectrum, she explains today that ABA isn’t just for those with autism. In addition to her work with ABA, Nicole also has experience in the classroom and as a speaker both nationally and internationally.

 

With her expertise and guidance, Nicole explains how ABA has evolved through the years, the different approaches in the field, and what quality ABA really looks like. She will help us dispel some common myths and may even help you determine if ABA is right for your child and family.

 

Show Notes:

[2:18] - People define treatments in different ways.

[3:05] - ABA is based on the science of learning and behavior. Nicole explains how each behavior is broken down and used in therapy.

[4:18] - ABA uses reinforcement to strengthen skills or teach new skills.

[5:07] - The science has evolved over time. Nicole and Karen discuss what it looked like in its infancy in the 1960s.

[6:24] - There are a lot of different styles of teaching. Nicole describes some different approaches.

[7:09] - What is Nicole’s style at Kyo?

[8:47] - During the school year, a lot of families are reluctant to add on services, but Nicole clarifies that ABA can be implemented in day to day life as support.

[10:39] - The family-centered approach has proven to make a big difference.

[11:51] - Covid forced creativity and Nicole says she was present for distance learning sessions if that was what was important for the child and family.

[13:19] - Changing the child is not the goal. The goal is to give children the tools they need to be the best version of themselves.

[14:59] - There is a difference between what is important to the family and what is considered important by society.

[16:31] - If a behavior does not harm a child or their safety, Nicole explains how it can be serving in internal function for the time being and may not need to be addressed.

[19:12] - Who does ABA serve? It is used for many settings, not just those with autism.

[21:29] - ABA providers are usually covered by insurance.

[22:44] - ABA is not just helpful for children. Nicole also works with teens and adults.

[24:48] - Nicole shares a story of an older child she worked with and how building a relationship is crucial.

[26:56] - Collaborating with the child is important as well because some children will know what they want to work on.

[29:38] - Nicole and Karen discuss being realistic to be effective and something that the family can implement.

 

About Our Guest:

Nicole Ballinghoff, M.Ed., BCBA has been part of the Kyo team since 2017 and has been working in the field for over 15 years. She is passionate about ABA and how it can improve the lives of individuals with autism and their families. She has worked in school, home, and community settings. Nicole has experience training staff, developing individualized interventions and creating classroom adaptations and modifications. Nicole has presented at the state, national and international levels on Using iPads in the Classroom, Differential Reinforcement, Video Modeling, and Stimulus Control. In her free time, Nicole enjoys spending time outdoors with her family. 

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08 Mar 2022Ep. 71: ADHD and Asperger Syndrome in Smart Kids with Dr. Thomas Brown00:44:09

Joining the conversation today is Dr. Thomas Brown, Director of the Brown Clinic for Attention and Related Disorders. Dr. Brown is also the author of several articles and books, but today we talk about his most recent book ADHD and Asperger Syndrome in Smart Kids and Adults

Listen to Dr. Brown as he describes common difficulties individuals with ADHD and Asperger Syndrome have and how it impacts them going into adulthood. In many situations that he has seen, children with Asperger Syndrome go unnoticed until middle school, high school, or even beyond as their level of intelligence is generally very high. As they get older, executive functioning and social demands increase and that’s where things might get challenging. This episode is about those struggles and helping these individuals better understand the world around them.

 

Show Notes:

[2:49] - Dr. Brown shares what inspired him to write his most recent book, ADHD and Asperger Syndrome in Smart Kids and Adults: Twelve Stories of Struggle, Support, and Treatment.

[4:01] - A common struggle for children and adults with ADHD and Asperger Syndrome is with socialization.

[5:09] - Dr. Brown believes the grouping of Asperger Syndrome with Autism is a disservice and notes the differences.

[6:24] - The executive functioning of those with ADHD and those with Asperger Syndrome have a lot of similarities.

[8:52] - Autism Spectrum Disorder is a very broad spectrum but Dr. Brown notes some of the differences in Asperger Syndrome.

[11:08] - Moving into middle school and high school makes things more difficult with executive functioning and social demands.

[13:12] - Many times, Asperger Syndrome is not detected in early elementary grade levels.

[15:24] - Another concern that Dr. Brown notes is regulating emotions.

[17:32] - Dr. Brown looks closely at executive functioning to understand the profile for each child he sees.

[19:30] - Dr. Brown gives an example of the complexity of ADHD.

[22:17] - The cognitive ability of individuals with Asperger Syndrome is very high.

[24:20] - Many times, they are not able to see someone else’s perspective.

[25:57] - In those with Asperger Syndrome, there is difficulty understanding how their interaction makes others feel.

[27:42] - Dr. Brown shares a story of a man who continued to lose his job to demonstrate how social struggles can manifest in adulthood.

[31:07] - Dr. Brown lists some of the noticeable social tendencies in early years.

[32:51] - Emotional regulation also impacts motivation in both positive and negative ways.

[34:47] - When Asperger Syndrome goes unnoticed until high school or even later, it can be difficult to deal with. Many times, individuals are praised for their intelligence but then struggle with other challenges.

[38:01] - Remember that it is not intentional when individuals say something hurtful.

[39:18] - While very intelligent, some individuals struggle with reading social cues.

[40:11] - Dr. Brown says to remember strengths and talents in treatment.

 

About Our Guest:

Thomas E. Brown earned his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology at Yale University and then served on the clinical faculty of the Dept. of Psychiatry at Yale School of Medicine for 21 years while operating a clinic in CT for children and adults with ADHD and related problems. In May 2017, he relocated to California where he sees patients and directs the Brown Clinic for Attention and Related Disorders in Manhattan Beach, California. 

Dr. Brown has taught continuing medical education courses on ADHD for the American Psychiatric Association for 20 years and has given lectures and workshops in hospitals, medical schools, universities, and for professional and advocacy groups throughout the U.S. and in more than 40 other countries. He served as Adjunct Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences at the Keck School of Medicine of the University of Southern California and is an elected Fellow of the American Psychological Association and the Society for Child and Adolescent Psychology. 

 

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09 May 2023Ep. 132: Social Justice: A Framework for Equity in Education with Charles A. Barrett, PhD, NCSP00:33:55

Social justice is a topic of discussion on several episodes of this podcast and today’s guest joins the conversation on this important part of education. Because, social justice is truly a framework for equity in education.

Today’s guest is Dr. Charles Barrett, an experienced school psychologist, speaker, and author of Social Justice in Schools. Dr. Barrett knows that significant contextual factors, events happening around students, can affect their social, emotional, and behavioral functioning. He joins me today to discuss actionable steps that parents, educators, and practitioners can take to promote positive outcomes for all students and communities.

 

Show Notes:

[1:58] - Dr. Barrett has an extensive background, and he shares how he got into this particular area.

[3:46] - There are a lot of variables that can impact how well a child does in school. We need to be mindful of these realities.

[4:42] - Not everyone has the access to the things they need to reach their potential.

[6:12] - Where do we even begin in understanding social justice? When can we move from knowledge to action?

[7:40] - There are systems in place that cause inequitable outcomes. One major one is education funding.

[8:57] - It is a reality that children do not receive the same level of education based on their demographic.

[9:37] - Racism is another factor in inequitable outcomes.

[11:03] - Distance learning during COVID-19 placed a spotlight on the disparity in education.

[12:40] - Are we misinterpreting student performance as a disability?

[14:24] - When returning to school after the COVID-19 pandemic, students experienced difficulty in socializing.

[16:10] - Be present. Be proactive. Be persistent.

[18:58] - Dr. Barrett and Dr. Wilson discuss what it looks like to be persistent.

[20:26] - Access to information is key to advocating. An informed parent is the best partner.

[21:44] - The partnership between the parent, the school, and the teacher is so important.

[23:11] - There are more things that can be provided that parents don’t always know about that are outside of the IEP.

[24:12] - Dr. Barrett explains the benefits of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy.

[26:59] - Understanding and access to information is not just important for parents. Students need to understand how they learn as well.

[29:33] - If you are an educator, Dr. Barrett recommends first being critical of your own work.

[31:08] - For parents, a great place to start is asking questions.

 

About Our Guest:

Charles A. Barrett, PhD, NCSP, a district-level administrator in Virginia, practiced as a school psychologist for 13 years at the elementary and secondary levels. He serves as an adjunct lecturer at several universities, where he is actively involved in the training and development of future school psychologists. Dr. Barrett was named School Psychologist of the Year by the Virginia Academy of School Psychologists and received the Rookie of the Year Award from the National Association of School Psychologists (NASP). His past leadership positions within NASP include co-chair of the Social Justice Task Force and African American Subcommittee, chair of the Multicultural Affairs and Social Justice Committees, and Virginia Delegate to the NASP Leadership Assembly. Dr. Barrett serves on the editorial boards of School Psychology Review and School Psychology. He is a frequent speaker and workshop presenter for educators, families, and community organizations. 

 

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05 Jul 2022Ep. 88: The Importance of Mentoring and Enrichment Programs for 2e Students with Samuel Young00:41:14

For many parents, it is a struggle to strike that perfect balance between supporting their child in their area of struggle while also developing areas of talent. This is especially true for 2e, or twice exceptional, kids. It is possible to boost an area of strength and talent while also working on skills that are more challenging and today’s guest has developed an exciting program that can help strike that balance.

Samuel Young is the founder of Young Scholars Academy, a virtual enrichment program that helps twice-exceptional students to feel seen, nurtured, confident, and happy. Their primary focus is to empower students to develop their interests and talents so that they may lead meaningful, fulfilling lives and be the creative agents of change that our world desperately needs. As a neurodivergent educator, Samuel knows firsthand how it feels to be on the brink of giving up, but through the connection with a mentor, he persevered and is now giving back to others through exciting virtual learning opportunities that are highly engaging and interesting.

In this episode, Samuel demonstrates the power of a strong mentorship and why enrichment programs are crucial for 2e students to thrive. His passion for this topic is contagious and this interview will leave you feeling excited, empowered, and inspired.

 

Show Notes:

[2:30] - Samuel explains what is meant by twice exceptional or 2e students.

[3:51] - There are three ways of masking which means that there are different ways someone is hiding their talents or deficits.

[5:20] - Everyone has strengths and weaknesses.

[6:22] - Samuel shares his own experience as a struggling student.

[8:18] - Twice exceptional students are underserved because they aren’t talked about often. Samuel explains why it is so rewarding to work with 2e students.

[10:02] - Instead of being gifted or learning disabled, people can be both.

[11:03] - Students are constantly being told what their challenges are; we need to also reinforce their strengths.

[12:35] - Key ingredients to support are mentoring and like-minded peers.

[13:29] - We love Superman because he has a weakness and a strength.

[14:53] - Mentors can say the same thing as parents, but it will land differently for a student because of their similarities and connection.

[16:12] - A good mentor is someone who can help students tap into their own voice, profile their own strengths, and allow them to understand their areas of growth.

[17:48] - Because they are so asynchronous, social emotional skills may not be developing the same as their peers.

[19:49] - Samuel is passionate about reaching marooned 2e students who are not getting the support they need through virtual mentoring.

[21:57] - Samuel describes some of the ways he connects students together and demonstrates how they are creating something and truly owning it.

[23:17] - If the offered solution to helping students with academics is taking away electives or extracurricular, don’t do it. Don’t take away something they love.

[25:02] - We celebrate the people who are really good at what they love.

[26:41] - Samuel describes the programs available at Young Scholars Academy that are not available through schools.

[28:31] - There’s also a course that creates intuitive writers that can tap into their own voice.

[30:01] - Ultimately, it is important to take what students love and promote self-esteem.

[33:38] - These are students who are the future of the world and they may be on the brink of giving up.

[35:37] - We have to allow youngsters to fail with grace. We all fail and we need to normalize failure.

[37:51] - Students are going to fail. We have to prepare them for that and show them how to cope with it and learn from it.

 

About Our Guest:

Samuel Young, MEd, is a growth-minded, two-time Fulbright Scholar and director of Young Scholars Academy, a strength-based, talent-focused virtual enrichment center that supports twice-exceptional students and their families. Samuel is a neurodivergent educator who has ADHD. As an ADHD learner, he has a tremendous understanding of, experience in, and respect for all things related to neurodiverse education.

Samuel has been featured in the documentary 2e2: Teaching The Twice Exceptional, the textbook Understanding The Social and Emotional Lives of Gifted Students, 2nd Ed., Variations Magazine, 2e News, and other publications.

 

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  • Phone: (424) 835-5324

 

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02 Feb 2021Ep 15: From High School to College: Steps to Success for Students with Disabilities with Elizabeth C. Hamblet00:45:42

For students with learning difficulties or disabilities, college is not out of the question. In fact, many students with IEPs and 504s in high school do apply and gain acceptance into various college programs. How do their learning differences impact the college experience? Well, it isn’t exactly like high school, but you may be surprised by how accommodations can, in fact, be provided in a college or university setting.

 

Today my guest is Elizabeth Hamblet and she will be walking us through what students with IEPs and 504s in high school can expect as they transition into college. Elizabeth has been a college learning disabilities specialist at the college level for two decades and is a nationally-requested speaker. She is also the author of a fantastic book, From High School to College: Steps to Success for Students With Disabilities, which she is offering to podcast listeners at a discount. Listen on and read further to find out more.

 

Show Notes:

[2:27] - It is so exciting for Karen to know that there are many students out there with learning differences who are applying and being admitted into college and university.

[4:13] - Elizabeth says that there is a lot of misunderstanding surrounding high school IEPs and college admission. IEPs do not follow a student into college.

[5:30] - There are a lot of things that we do in K-12, but that colleges are not required to do. They do not need to identify and test students for a learning disability.

[6:49] - Students can use their IEPs and 504 plans as documentation of their learning disability for college admission.

[7:14] - Colleges are not required to provide the same accommodations that a student received in high school.

[8:42] - Colleges get to set their documentation requirements. There are no real parameters and may vary per college/university. Elizabeth gives some examples.

[10:54] - Although every college is different in regards to what they require, generally speaking, Elizabeth says that they likely will not need to refresh IEPs and 504s at the end of high school.

[12:35] - Documentation of your disability does not start until you are enrolled in a college or university.

[13:40] - A common misunderstanding is when parents think they are required to go get private testing for their child and that school reports are not accepted in college. Elizabeth says that this is not true.

[14:33] - If the college requires testing and does not find the high school plan sufficient, they will ask for the two elements of a psychoeducational evaluation.

[15:45] - If testing hasn’t happened in many years, it is wise to be tested again for more current information, even though learning disabilities don’t go away.

[17:08] - If all support went away, what would a student’s experience be like with a learning difference? Sometimes kids go unidentified.

[18:42] - Don’t panic if college websites say they require very specific codes or documentation for accommodations. Elizabeth explains why.

[19:40] - Don’t assume that there’s no flexibility.

[21:45] - Testing is just a snapshot, so a history and current documentation is important to have and provide.

[22:44] - Elizabeth lists some accommodations that are commonly available in college. One is extended time.

[24:02] - Every place that Elizabeth has worked, she has had students that asked for untimed tests or private rooms for testing. These are perfectly fine to ask for and Elizabeth lists a few other examples of things that can be asked for.

[28:45] - Colleges do not have to provide assistive technology but can approve them to be used if students have them.

[29:57] - Although they do not have to provide the readers or software for students, they do have to provide text in a format that can be read by a student’s own devices.

[31:15] - There is a distinction between extended time on exams and tests versus extended time on assignments. Extended deadlines on assignments is not commonly seen accommodation in college.

[33:02] - All of the decisions that colleges make in regards to accommodations are made on a case by case basis.

[33:35] - During high school, it is crucial to start working on time management and breaking down assignments in preparation for going to college.

[34:39] - Students need to be prepared to self-advocate. They will need to be able to manage this themselves.

[36:05] - There should be a long term plan for scaling back accommodations that aren’t common in college.

[37:02] - If a student is receiving modifications of expectations in high school, they need to start preparing for this not to be provided in college.

[39:38] - Dr. Wilson shares the awesome feeling when a previous client calls themselves later when applying for college rather than hearing from their parents.

[40:47] - By senior year, parents should be watching their child be as independent as possible.

[41:37] - Elizabeth recommends to not be concerned about the grades your student receives and more concerned with how they manage themselves and handle accommodations in college at first.

[42:11] - Through admissions, it should be the student’s choice to note that they have a learning disability. After being accepted, students can still request accommodations and documentation.




About Our Guest:

Elizabeth C. Hamblet has been a college learning disabilities specialist at the college level for two decades. In addition to working at a university, Elizabeth is a nationally-requested speaker and understood expert on preparing students with disabilities for successful college transition. Elizabeth is the author of a fantastic book, From High School to College: Steps to Success for Students with Disabilities, and her work has appeared in numerous journals and online platforms.

 

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22 Mar 2022Ep. 73: Building Language Skills with the Personal Narrative with Carol Karp00:44:37

Returning to the podcast today is Carol Karp, and this episode is all about the impact a personal narrative has on language development. Many of us love stories and storytelling, but we don’t often think of storytelling as a way to develop language skills. The personal narrative helps kids who struggle with language based learning challenges, and Carol is here to explain how. Carol brings her own stories to this episode to truly demonstrate the power the personal narrative can have. The personal narrative is something that can be developed at all different ages, and Carol gives us strategies to start conversing with kids in ways that help promote their language skills, creativity, flexibility, and self-image.  

Show Notes:

[2:03] - Welcome back, Carol!

[3:33] - “Meeting kids where they are” means having conversations with them about their interests and figuring out what they can and can’t do.

[4:41] - Carol shares a story with a child and how meeting her where she was made the biggest difference.

[6:50] - You can’t work in a traditional sense all of the time or you will miss out.

[8:07] - Some kids have these great continuous stories that go on in their head that can be used to help them communicate.

[9:47] - Studies show that children who tell stories well are more accepted by peers.

[10:31] - A personal story is the story we have about ourselves in our head.

[11:50] - Having a more complicated personal narrative can positively affect writing.

[12:49] - Young children tend to tell stories about things that have happened and the older they get the more fiction develops.

[14:40] - Narration style is developed by asking questions.

[15:30] - A real sense of self can’t be replicated through technology.

[16:40] - Language develops in a social setting.

[18:22] - When a child doesn’t tell a story in sequence, parents can direct them to think about the order of events.

[19:32] - Sometimes, children develop a negative personal narrative.

[22:16] - Carol demonstrates the effect of a negative personal narrative and how to help.

[24:01] - When children see improvement in their communication, their personal narrative changes.

[27:08] - With language difficulties, slow things down and listen.

[29:50] - A common assignment in school is how to relate to the text. Kids have to have a personal narrative to be able to connect.

[32:37] - Vocabulary lessons help promote personal narrative and language flexibility.

[35:14] - Early intervention is very important.

[38:10] - Cultural variations were not taken into account when grammar norms were created.

[40:01] - Storytelling is rooted in culture.

[41:51] - It is harder to connect with other people without a personal narrative.

 

About Our Guest:

Carol W. Karp, M.S., M.Ed., CCC-SLP, is a pediatric clinical speech-language pathologist. Carol holds two Master’s Degrees, one in Education and one in Communicative Disorders. She has two teaching credentials and was an elementary school teacher and training teacher for LAUSD. Upon completion of training in communicative disorders Carol was awarded a clinical fellowship at the Neuropsychiatric Institute Hospital (Semel Institute) at UCLA, where she received advanced training in diagnosis and intervention for children with speech and language difficulties. She is one of only a small number of Speech and Language Pathologists with this unique dual background. Carol has a Certificate of Clinical Competence in Speech-Language Pathology from the American Speech Language Hearing Association (ASHA Number 01099141); as well as licensure as a Speech-Language Pathologist by the California Speech-Language Pathology and Audiology and Hearing Aid Dispenser Board for over twenty years (License Number Sp8297). She is the founder of Westside Speech and Language Pathology Associates, Inc. and has conducted a thriving private practice since 1991.

 

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Cited Research:

Clarke, P. J., Snowling, M. J., Truelove, E., & Hulme, C. (2010). Ameliorating children's reading-comprehension difficulties: a randomized controlled trial. Psychological science, 21(8), 1106–1116. https://doi.org/10.1177/0956797610375449

 

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14 Jan 2025Ep. 220: How to Support Children and Teens with Chronic Pain with Dr. Samantha Levy00:41:44

Dr. Samantha Levy joins us this week to discuss the challenges of supporting kids with chronic pain. Samantha is a clinical psychologist specializing in youth with chronic pain disorders, using a biopsychosocial approach to address both physical and emotional challenges. She also supports parents through individual sessions, group facilitation, and a parenting blog for Creative Healing for Youth in Pain, while working with Whole Child LA.

In this episode, we discuss the complexities of chronic pain and explore its neurological nature and the effects that it has on one's body, mind, and family dynamics.  Dr. Levy explains the difference between acute and chronic pain, highlighting how the latter often persists even after healed injuries, creating a cycle of anxiety and misunderstood suffering.

Our conversation goes into common causes of chronic pain in children and teens, including the interplay of biological, psychological, and social factors. We talk about how these can contribute to the development of pain around puberty, and Dr. Levy highlights the emotional and social burden that this puts on kids, with children often withdrawing from school, friends, and activities which, of course, only worsens their pain and mental health.

With practical advice, Dr. Levy shares how treatment can address the root causes via a more holistic approach, including psychotherapy and mindfulness. She also discusses the importance of family support, the idea of "backward parenting," and strategies to reintegrate children into daily activities such as modified school accommodations.

Finally, Dr. Samantha Levy offers insights for caregivers, encouraging them to prioritize their own well-being via self-care and support networks!

Show Notes:

[2:19] - Dr. Levy explains how acute pain alerts us to harm, while chronic pain creates anxiety and misunderstood distress.
[4:51] - Chronic pain is a neurological condition that causes changes in the brain, often making it invisible.
[6:06] Chronic pain is typically viewed holistically and includes biological, psychological, and social factors.
[8:43] - Things like puberty, stress, and social complexities can make it even more difficult for kids to manage chronic pain.
[11:16] - Kids with chronic pain are often perfectionists, emotionally sensitive, and/or tend to internalize stress.
[14:47] - Chronic pain leads to isolation which then affects daily life, school, and relationships.
[15:20] - Chronic pain ultimately impacts every aspect of a child's life, worsening mental health and often resulting in isolation.
[18:54] - Isolation, anxiety, and chronic pain often create a vicious cycle that's further affected by family dynamics and support.
[19:30] - Samantha explains how medical trauma from misdiagnosis or mistreatment leaves many kids feeling hopeless and resistant to new treatments.
[21:02] - Strategies such as a team approach, psychotherapy, and/or mindfulness can help break the chronic pain cycle.
[24:23] - Recovery from chronic pain involves re-engaging in activities and a shift in the approaches that parents are used to taking,
[27:02] - Dr. Levy discusses how backward parenting encourages connection and avoids pressuring progress.
[29:17] - Dr. Levy feels that parents must acknowledge discomfort and anxieties to support their child's recovery.
[32:09] - Samantha argues that advocating for accommodations such as extra time and modified schedules helps kids with chronic pain.
[35:19] - Physical accommodations, such as flexible bathroom breaks or desk signals, ultimately support kids with chronic pain!
[36:57] - Dr. Levy points out how caregivers of children with chronic pain need self-care, therapy, and activities that offer healing.

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16 Jul 2024Ep. 194: What Is Neurodiversity-Affirming Care?00:29:52

Awareness and understanding of neurodiversity have been expanding in our society along with the need and opportunity for neurodiversity-affirming care. 

I'm thrilled to have Kody Harms joining me this week. Kody is a neuro-affirming therapist, educator, and advocate with over 15 years of experience working with neurodiverse children, teens, and adults. As a board-certified behavior analyst and co-owner of Curated Family Therapeutics, Kody brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to our discussion on neurodiversity.

In today's episode, we'll explore what it means to give and receive neuro-affirming care. Neurodiversity impacts individuals differently, and it's crucial to recognize and celebrate these differences rather than viewing them as deficits. We'll discuss how society's understanding of neurodiversity has grown significantly, reflecting our expanding knowledge about the brain and the diverse ways it can function.

With the rise of social media and ongoing research, we're hearing more diverse voices and gaining a deeper appreciation of the vastness of the neurodiversity spectrum. Teachers and administrators play a pivotal role in shaping opportunities for neurodivergent youth. By fostering inclusive environments and embracing the unique qualities everyone brings to the table, we can create a more understanding and accepting world.

Kody is passionate about creating inclusive environments and offering individualized support based on the needs of each student, parent, or client. Tune in to learn more about understanding and accepting people for all the beautiful differences they bring.

Show Notes:

[02:12] -  At Curated Family Therapeutics they have three modes of support: 1. One to one acceptance and commitment therapy for neurodiverse teams and adults. 2. Working with parents of neurodivergent children. 3. Applying the one to one therapy in the classroom.

[04:07] -  Their work extends from getting the diagnosis and supporting the family to high school and adulthood. 

[05:17] -  For Kody, incorporating neuro-affirming ideas begins with questioning his own neurotypical norms and how he was raised. Each generation gets more empathetic and celebratory of neurodiversity.

[06:30] -  Kody doesn't want to change who anybody is, he just wants to help them find the best version of themselves.

[07:03] -  We want to change the environment so that it supports the differences in the way that our brains are wired. 

[07:50] -  Educating parents is a large part of neuro-affirming support. Creating neuro-affirming care within education is also very important.

[09:30] -  Practices educators can adopt include creating opportunities for social and emotional learning within the whole classroom so as not to isolate the individual, and identify that everybody does this differently.

[10:36] -  It's important for everybody to have an opportunity to regulate.

[11:37] -  It's important to start understanding how everyone's brain works differently at an early age like kindergarten.

[13:34] -  Part of learning is just noticing things and bringing them to the attention of the students.

[14:09] -  A project they recently did is taking the social and emotional learning that they're doing at school and applying it at home.

[16:24] -  Schools have visual mediums but they don't always do a good job explicitly teaching them. Kody likes to make schedules for his neurodivergent students and teach it as a skill.

[17:35] -  Creating visuals and allowing students to have a say is a general universal strategy.

[19:31] -  Kody's goal is not to add things, but to adapt the day. 

[20:22] -  Acceptance and commitment therapy is acknowledging that challenges are going to be presented. If you're working towards your values and the things that guide you, you can't go wrong.

[22:12] -  They begin with a values assessment. Kody wants to know what's important to the student, parent, or client.

[23:41] -  Acceptance is critical for the whole piece of providing neuro-affirming care.

[24:41] -  The values define the actions that you want to take towards the commitment.

About Our Guest:

Kody Harms, M.A., BCBA, is a neuro-affirming therapist, educator, and advocate with over 15 years of experience working with neurodiverse individuals. As a Board Certified Behavior Analyst with a master's in Special Education, he specializes in supporting the mental health of neurodiverse teens and adults, along with their families and teachers.

Kody's therapeutic approach is grounded in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, focusing on helping clients assess their identity, goals, and personal growth. As co-owner and clinical director at Curated Family Therapeutics, he tailors sessions to individual needs and actively supports the neurodiverse community. Outside of work, Kody enjoys yoga, concerts, and time with his family.

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11 Jul 2023Ep. 141: The Link Between Language and Auditory Processing - Lois Kam Heymann, M.A., CCC-SLP00:31:36

Auditory processing and language processing are two subjects that overlap, but not everyone understands how they are related and how they impact children who struggle with both of them. Joining me today to help me discuss this is Lois Kam Heymann, a speech and language pathologist with over four decades of experience with auditory processing disorder and auditory language processing challenges.

Parents often come to Lois saying that their children aren’t listening, and if you are someone who feels that their child or children don’t listen, then this episode is definitely going to be worthwhile for you as Lois explains what could be going on. She also explains the difference between auditory processing disorders and ADHD, which are often confused even by medical professionals.

The only way for parents and professionals to intervene appropriately is for a thorough assessment to be done. We need to know exactly where the problem lies so that we can intervene appropriately, especially since these problems can lead to frustration and low self-esteem in the child. I love the work that Lois is doing, so I hope that you will tune in as she discusses all of these topics and more! It’s never too late to address auditory processing disorders.

 

Show Notes:

[2:39] - Auditory skills don’t usually start in the ear but in the brain.

[5:11] - Some kids with language difficulty are misdiagnosed with something like ADHD.

[6:39] - The difference between an auditory processing disorder and ADHD.

[9:28] - Lois lists off and explains the different parts of auditory processing.

[11:39] - How auditory processing difficulty can affect behavior.

[14:14] - What can parents do to help their children succeed in school?

[17:19] - The only way to build pathways is with auditory input.

[19:42] - It is not generally a teacher’s job to teach auditory skills.

[20:39] - Adults can have auditory processing disorders, and it’s never too late.

[21:27] - What can parents do during summer months?

[24:56] - Modeling language and behavior is the best way a parent can teach.

[25:40] - Lois shares information with us about her company ListenLoveLearn.

[28:54] - Hear about Lois’ main objective.

 

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15 Dec 2020Ep. 8: Mindfulness with Dr. Kathleen Carroll-Wray00:39:53

With all that is going on, compassion and empathy are crucial to managing the stress and anxiety we continue to struggle with. That’s why I am thrilled to have Dr. Kathleen Carroll-Wray as our guest today to talk about mindfulness and how powerful it can be.

Dr. Kathleen Carroll-Wray is a licensed clinical psychologist and registered yoga instructor. She specializes in psychological assessment and mind-body psychotherapy for children, adolescents and adults. Today, she talks about mindfulness and how it can help individuals and families who experience anxiety or have trouble with focus, emotional regulation, or impulse control. She gives us tools on how we, as parents, can model mindfulness for our children and how breathing helps regulate the nervous system.

Thank you for joining me for this episode of the Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast. It is my hope that these simple mindfulness techniques that Dr. Carroll-Wray shares with us help ease a bit of the worry and anxiety and provide a way to give you self-compassion.

 

Show Notes:

[2:08] - There’s a lot of anxiety that Dr. Wilson and Dr. Carroll-Wray come across during assessment and within their practices.

[3:01] - There are obvious stressors but there are also worries that are harder to pinpoint.

[3:33] - Anticipatory anxiety is when you worry about something specific that you know is coming up, sometimes even in your day-day-day schedule. 

[4:10] - Kids pick up on parent anxiety. There’s so much anxiety going on right now in everyone and Kathleen says this is an opportunity for increased compassion.

[5:41] - Dr. Carroll-Wray’s practice promotes overall well-being rather than specific issues.

[6:41] - Mindfulness is bringing attention to the present moment and focusing on how you feel without judgment.

[7:37] - The starting point is to begin noticing behaviors. Then, recognize how you feel about those behaviors.

[8:41] - When engaging in mindfulness, make sure you don’t rush to what you need to do about something. You’re not acting on it, you’re just noticing.

[9:39] - Dr. Carroll-Wray explains how there is no clear answer on how long a parent practices mindfulness and that she models how it works in sessions with families. She provides a chart for those who need structure.

[12:05] - Creating a space is an important piece of mindfulness. Noticing your physical space and how you feel within it is helpful to ground yourself. 

[13:47] - This physical space can vary per person. Dr. Wilson lists a few examples of where people might feel at ease the most in order to practice intentional mindfulness.

[15:32] - Dr. Carroll-Wray tends to work with parent modeling first to help families and children who experience anxiety. She says that adding in other sensory components helps families with emotional regulation.

[18:04] - Modeling mindfulness for children helps build parent-child connection and relationships.

[19:03] - Realizing how you feel and communicating it with facial expressions is one piece of the puzzle. Now there’s an opportunity for empathy!

[20:16] - Breathing is a huge part of emotional regulation. Practice taking deep breaths before giving this technique to your child.

[21:10] - Dr. Carroll-Wray describes what deep breathing should feel and look like. She also gives examples on how to teach your child how to participate.

[22:49] - Mindfulness is an incredibly effective skill. Over time, children will be able to self-advocate and use breath work to regulate the nervous system.

[24:27] - Deep breathing with a parent is a great way to intervene and over time, children will start to do this on their own.

[25:54] - You begin with noticing how you feel and how you are escalating.

[26:40] - Mindfulness techniques are immediate and accessible.

[27:14] - It can be scary to tune into your body because we spend so much time in our minds. It is normal to feel this way and as with any other skill, you need to practice it.

[28:13] - Kathleen is also a yoga instructor in addition to being a psychologist. She shares a story about a child she has worked with and shares how she combines the two areas of her work.

[29:19] - Kathleen is a huge believer in empathy through movement.

[30:19] - Empathy is a gift to those who struggle because they often feel like they are not understood.

[32:14] - Mindfulness might not be enough for each individual. It is one skill but there are many other components that go into supporting a child’s wellness.

[34:20] - For parents who are struggling and are feeling overwhelmed, Kathleen says the only thing you should add to your plate right now is self-compassion. 

[35:07] - Be mindful of your energy levels during different times of your day or different activities. What times of day or activities more draining than others?

[37:17] - There’s a lot we don’t have control over, so give yourself the gift of breath.

 

About Our Guest:

Kathleen Carroll-Wray, PsyD is a licensed clinical psychologist and registered yoga teacher offering integrative psychotherapy and psychological testing for children, adolescents and young adults. Many of her clients struggle with attention, social skills, flexibility, emotional regulation and family conflict. While working primarily with individual children, Kathleen often includes parents and care-providers into treatment, offering relaxation techniques for all participants in the child’s life.

 

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09 Jan 2024Ep. 167: From Surviving to Thriving: A Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and Well-Being with Leslie Forde00:39:06

Many parents, particularly moms, feel like taking care of your health and well-being only comes after your family’s needs are met. That essentially means that there’s no time left for any form of self-care. But today’s guest discusses how we can take better care of ourselves and in doing so, take better care of the ones we love.

Leslie Forde is the CEO and Founder of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs®. Her business provides evidence-based tools for moms to reclaim time from the never-done list for well-being. And she helps employers retain caregivers.

Over 3,500 parents have participated since March of 2020 in the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs research study - the longest running study of its kind about the pandemic’s ongoing impact on the work/life, care, and wellness needs of parents.

 

Show Notes:

[2:45] - Leslie returned to work after a second maternity leave and didn’t learn the importance of a mom’s hierarchy of needs until she completely burned out.

[4:19] - When she went back to work, she felt like the answer was to just work “harder.”

[5:26] - In hindsight, there were a lot of signs that she was not okay. Everyone was flourishing except for her.

[7:46] - Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs has self-care at the top. But the reason we don’t spend time on this is because the other things are never done.

[10:28] - If you think that you will start something for yourself when something else is done, you will never start.

[11:58] - Health problems for moms often don’t show up until later in life and can be attributed to ignoring self-care practices.

[14:10] - Leslie shares a story about making cookies and how a hobby can turn into something stressful.

[15:51] - Your health and well-being is of equal importance to your children’s health and well-being.

[16:55] - Consequences of ignoring health are gradual and it could feel easier to put it off compared to more immediate consequences of focusing on your family.

[18:38] - Perfection is not critical. Be flexible and find a set of practices that work for you.

[19:59] - Mom-guilt is real and it is a heavy weight.

[21:57] - Navigating the health and unique needs of a neurodiverse child is huge and a significant amount of work.

[23:08] - Awareness and education is improving and is better than it's ever been. But the systems in place are still not designed to help those who learn and think differently.

[25:12] - Give yourself achievable goals that will make you feel the success of accomplishing work that needs to be done, but in more manageable ways.

[26:12] - Guilt can be paralyzing, depressing, and decelerating.

[27:36] - Self-care doesn’t mean a spa day. It could mean a good night’s sleep or a healthy meal.

[29:03] - Find the resources that will help you. Your commitment is not to solve the problem. You don’t have to do it alone.

[30:32] - Pick something from the top of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and make it a habit.

[33:37] - If you can create a routine out of something, it will relieve a lot of the mental load of maintaining it.

[36:46] - Defer, eliminate, outsource, or spouse source things that are too much to manage at once.

 

About Our Guest:

Leslie has used research to inform growth and innovation strategy for over 20 years. Most recently, she held leadership positions at Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, Care.com and CSpace, an Omnicom market research agency. And for the past decade, she’s focused on media and technology for the childcare, eldercare, mental health, and education sectors. She’s a frequent speaker and consultant to organizations on how to retain and support parents, caregivers, and people of color, including HubSpot, Merck, Scholastic and the Barr Foundation. Her writing about well-being, equity and the future of work has appeared in The Washington Post, Slate, Parents Magazine, TLNT, Directorship and her website, Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs among other publications. She’s been quoted in the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, CNN, National Geographic, Fast Company, US News & World Report, SHRM, and many other outlets.

 

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19 Oct 2021Ep. 52: How a 1:1 Instruction Model Helps Students with Jaime Porras and Vailet Yarijanian00:41:11

Imagine a learning environment with one student and one teacher in the classroom. For some, this may seem too good to be true. For others, there are many questions that arise, like socializing, independent work, and how to find success with this model. Today, Jaime Porras and Vailet Yarijanian from Fusion Academy join me in a discussion about a customizable 1:1 learning experience for middle and high school students.

 

In this episode, Jaime and Vailet explain how Fusion Academy works and how even the students who are okay in a traditional setting can thrive in this type of learning environment. They answer the commonly asked questions about learning differences, socialization, and academic anxiety in adolescent students and share successes they have found over the years. Fusion offers so many options for every kind of learner and has campuses all over the country. So listen to find out more about this engaging and innovative approach to education and how it might help your child succeed.

 

Show Notes:

[1:48] - Some students do not thrive in a traditional learning environment.

[2:58] - Fusion is a fully accredited middle and high school with a completely customizable curriculum for each student to find success.

[4:10] - Fusion has 70 campuses in the country and a global program.

[5:28] - This individualized approach is successful because teachers are able to differentiate and customize the learning experience for each student.

[7:08] - Jaime describes a customized schedule that would vary per student based on their needs.

[8:50] - Fusion is not a specific type of school. Vailet explains their model.

[10:01] - Fusion also offers fully customizable and flexible scheduling with early and late hours of operation.

[11:14] - At the moment, Fusion offers courses for middle and high school due to the level of autonomy needed for students to work independently.

[13:06] - To address social skills and interaction, Vailet describes Homework Cafes.

[14:44] - There are also club offerings on each campus.

[16:10] - If a club doesn’t exist, students can write proposals and create them with a teacher’s guidance.

[17:31] - Because of the one on one environment, students are less likely to develop social anxiety regarding their academic weaknesses.

[19:01] - At Fusion, they teach to the student, not the standard.

[21:11] - In addition to social interactions, there are opportunities for academic socialization.

[22:45] - Vailet gives an example of social stigma that is avoided with a 1:1 model.

[25:10] - What kind of student benefits from this kind of learning model?

[26:32] - Even students who do fine in a traditional classroom might not be thriving there.

[29:13] - Students with attention issues but don’t qualify for services thrive in this setting.

[30:17] - COVID changed things drastically for education.

[32:48] - For Fusion, there is no yearly commitment. You can take a few classes at a time.

[34:41] - Fusion looks at outcomes per individual student and changes the game plan if needed.

[36:01] - Students can take a single course in an area of weakness and most schools of record will work with Fusion.

[38:14] - Many parents are looking for alternative education models during the COVID-19 pandemic.

 

About Fusion Academy:

As the nation’s most engaging educational experience, Fusion Academy can help your middle or high school student rediscover their love of learning. With one student and one teacher per classroom, the entire school journey is individualized for your child.

For the 2021-2022 school year we are still offering customized options of in-person, hybrid, and virtual learning. We’re ready to customize a plan that works best for your student and what they’re comfortable with this fall. We’re able to be flexible so we can provide the stability your family needs during these uncertain times. Our one-to-one model allows us to customize schedules, instruction, and pacing so your student gets an education tailored specifically to them.

 

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25 Oct 2022Ep. 104: Helpful Accommodations for ADHD with Carrie Jackson, PhD00:29:50

As we record this episode in October, keep in mind that now is a good time to review your child's classroom accommodations. If they have a learning disability, learning challenges that affect them in the classroom, or mental health difficulties that also impact their ability to access the curriculum, they may benefit from classroom accommodations. 

With accommodations, expectations are the same. What a child is expected to know, learn, or do does not change. Accommodations offer support to account for challenges that students face and really help level the playing field. But when it comes to ADHD specifically, what accommodations are helpful?

Dr. Carrie Jackson is today’s guest and she has a wealth of knowledge about accommodations, how to properly use and track them, and which ones are helpful for children and adolescents with ADHD. In our conversation today, Dr. Jackson explains what accommodations are, how ADHD impacts a student’s ability to learn in a classroom environment, and how parents and educators can support their needs with accommodations.

 

Show Notes:

[2:19] - There is so much to discuss when it comes to ADHD. It can be overwhelming.

[3:29] - Dr. Jackson has a parent guide on her website that is extremely helpful.

[5:07] - Girls with ADHD are more likely to be overlooked and misdiagnosed.

[6:30] - Inattention is a very internal struggle which is hard to see, but accommodations are very helpful.

[8:38] - Classroom accommodations are changes to the classroom environment in a way that will support your child with their learning style.

[9:48] - There is a misconception about accommodations being unfair.

[10:50] - Classroom accommodations also help with self-confidence.

[11:50] - When it comes to ADHD, the accommodation of having a distraction free environment is often recommended.

[13:40] - Peers can often make a difference in seating as well.

[15:40] - Wobble seats and fidget toys can be helpful but for others they are more distracting.

[17:12] - Daily report cards are a great motivational tool and accommodation.

[18:39] - ADHD changes as the child gets older.

[20:00] - An organization accommodation is particularly helpful for older students with ADHD.

[21:28] - Sometimes after an assessment, the child doesn’t want the accommodation.

[23:17] - Some accommodations will not be noticeable by peers.

[24:37] - It’s about paying attention to what is helpful to each student in accessing the curriculum. Track these over time.

[26:19] - Schools will not give these accommodations automatically.

[27:12] - Start the conversation with your child’s teacher about their diagnoses.

 

About Our Guest:

Carrie Jackson, PhD is a licensed child psychologist, speaker, and author working in San Diego, California. She has published over 20 articles and book chapters related to parenting, ADHD, and defiance. Dr. Carrie Jackson maintains a private practice and shares evidence-based mental health information on social media. In addition to her private practice, Dr. Carrie Jackson is also an adjunct professor at the University of San Diego, where she teaches child therapy to Marriage and Family Therapy graduate students.

 

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02 Mar 2021Ep. 19: How Social and Emotional Factors Impact Learning with Dr. Nicole Michaeli00:38:20

Oftentimes social-emotional factors impact learning in a big way. As our guest today points out, social-emotional issues such as anxiety and depression can mimic a learning difficulty or could even coexist with one. So how do we know if a student is struggling with a social-emotional difficulty or something else? And just as importantly, how can we help them? 

Today’s guest is Dr. Nicole Michaeli. Nicole is a clinical psychologist and associate at West LA Neuropsychology. She conducts comprehensive psychoeducational evaluations of children and emerging adults, and she has developed her specialization in assessment through her extensive training in the public sector as well as in private practice. Since 2014, Dr. Michaeli has worked in private practice, helping children with neurocognitive and social-emotional difficulties including learning differences, attention and executive functioning deficits, emotional challenges, and developmental delays. Dr. Michaeli also provides parent and educator workshops on various topics within child development.

In today’s episode, Dr. Michaeli helps us understand the differences between anxiety and depression and how they impact learning in a vicious cycle. She guides us through assessments and possible treatment for those struggling with anxiety and depression and gives parents some great tips to help support their children.

Show Notes:

[2:37] - Social-emotional issues often occur with processing issues and that is why it is so important to be able to identify those issues that could be exacerbating learning challenges.

[3:07] - Social-emotional issues like anxiety and depression may look like and mimic problems with learning.

[4:24] - Depression and anxiety can impact so many other processes than just mood. Dr. Michaeli explains how children who are anxious have difficulty with concentration.

[6:18] - Nicole also explains that anxiety impacts other brain functions and our efficiency with the tasks we need to perform. The first skill she addresses is working memory and she describes why this is important.

[7:14] - Dr. Wilson agrees and sees this often in her practice. She shares that she’ll often see a student who is very bright and has great working memory but when they become anxious, that skill is interfered with.

[7:56] - Processing speed refers to how quickly and efficiently a student can perform a specific task. When anxious, children often take much longer to perform tasks and it becomes much more taxing on them.

[8:53] - Dr. Wilson points out that this becomes a vicious cycle. The anxiety causes the student to become slower and running out of time makes them more anxious.

[10:13] - Dr. Michaeli explains that it is important to know the difference between normal worries and when there is cause for real concern. Anxiety is normal but what separates normal anxiety from abnormal anxiety is excessiveness.

[11:35] - Because students with high levels of anxiety carry the worry with them all day, they are often very fatigued. They also could have difficulty sleeping.

[12:12] - If you are too anxious to sleep, that impacts attentiveness, behavior, mood, and overall learning during normal waking hours.

[13:11] - A common topic of discussion is the impact depression has on social skills and interaction. Dr. Michaeli shares that a less touched-on subject is the impact anxiety has on social relationships.

[14:24] - Kids who are anxious often don’t make enough time for social and pleasurable activities. They tend to spend a lot of time on homework and responsibilities.

[15:44] - Dr. Michaeli describes how social-emotional issues are assessed and identified. There are different measures used depending on the student and the best way to understand the child.

[17:36] - It is not enough for Dr. Michaeli to only receive forms from parents and teachers. She says that it is very important for her to speak directly with the teachers as well as they can describe in detail their observations.

[19:06] - Using reports and observations, it is important to know what normal levels of anxiety look like for different ages of children.

[20:56] - A lot of children and adolescents also develop an awareness of their anxious behaviors and tend to mask them. 

[22:04] - Many issues co-exist with anxiety and Dr. Michaeli describes how these other issues could increase anxiety levels.

[22:57] - The most effective treatment for comorbid anxiety and learning issues in Nicole’s experience is a combination of therapy and medication.

[23:46] - One of the first treatments of anxiety and depression that Dr. Michaeli looks at regarding anxiety and depression is Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. She describes the model of this approach.

[24:54] - Another important element is to see what kind of support can be provided in the school environment.

[26:14] - It is valuable for teachers to know what the child is experiencing and when anxiety or depression is identified and being treated. A lot of times, anxious behavior can be mislabeled.

[28:02] - Children struggling with depression tend to have maladaptive or unrealistic thoughts that maintain the depressive mood.

[29:09] - Similar to anxiety, depression also interferes with a lot of necessary brain functions and tasks students need to perform when learning.

[29:53] - Often seen in children with depression is a low level of self worth in learning which does not match their actual abilities.

[31:52] - There are a lot of things parents can do to support their child and it begins with parent education. Parents need to be provided resources so they can understand what their child is struggling with.

[32:31] - Dr. Michaeli also says that it can be helpful, depending on the child’s treatment, that parents sit in and participate in the therapy.

[33:05] - Sleep also needs to be prioritized and screen time needs to be monitored.

[34:46] - Once assessments are completed, targeted intervention and treatment can begin. Anxiety and depression can mimic learning disabilities or can coexist with them. Identification is the first step.






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Dr. Nicole Michaeli is a clinical psychologist and associate at West LA Neuropsychology. She conducts comprehensive psychoeducational evaluations of children and emerging adults, and she has developed her specialization in assessment through her extensive training in the public sector as well as in private practice. Since 2014, Dr. Michaeli has worked in private practice, helping children with neurocognitive and social-emotional difficulties including learning differences, attention and executive functioning deficits, emotional challenges, and developmental delays. Dr. Michaeli also provides parent and educator workshops on various topics within child development.



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16 Mar 2021Ep. 21: What You Know and Don’t Know About Dyslexia with Dr. Lauren McClenney-Rosenstein00:39:21

I am thrilled to welcome today’s guest to help us break apart the myths of dyslexia. You’ve likely heard of dyslexia, but what is it really? As today’s guest points out, it’s more than we think it is and the work that she does to educate parents, teachers, and communities is very impactful.

 

Today’s guest is Dr. Lauren McClenney-Rosenstein. She is a passionate advocate for dyslexia awareness with a background in education within private and public schools. She earned her Doctor of Education in Teaching, Learning, Leadership, and Curriculum in 2019 and holds a dual masters in Special Education and Elementary Education. Her journey from classroom educator to founder of Think Dyslexia is amazing and her mission is to bring awareness, knowledge, and change to a systemic literacy issue within public schools.

 

It all starts with awareness and information. So listen to today’s episode to take the first step in understanding dyslexia, what it is, what it isn’t, and how we can start making important changes in addressing the needs of every student.

 

 

Show Notes:

[2:21] - Dr. Lauren shares her background and how she came into working in the field of special education and specifically with those with dyslexia.

[4:01] - Dr. Lauren’s experience in private and public schools gave her many experiences that she uses today in her career field. Her journey has given her a well-rounded background.

[6:04] - A great place to start to get the full definition and details about dyslexia is the International Dyslexia Association.

[6:23] - Defined by Dr. Lauren, dyslexia is a language-based learning difference. It is characterized by trouble with fluency in reading and writing and understanding the different components of language.

[7:15] - Dyslexia is more complex than the common belief that it is just the reversal of letters, numbers, and words.

[8:38] - There are a lot of myths surrounding dyslexia. Letter reversal is not always an indicator. Until a certain age, letter reversal is developmentally appropriate.

[9:23] - The number one myth that Dr. Lauren has heard regarding dyslexia is the below average intelligence.

[10:15] - Dyslexia has nothing to do with intelligence. Dr. Lauren explains that there is a systemic issue on the university level when training teachers on how to accommodate students with learning differences.

[11:09] - Dr. Wilson shares that there are also a lot of non-verbal cues that children with dyslexia pick up on that may make them feel that they are not smart enough to learn.

[11:57] - The big takeaway from learning about dyslexia is that it is language-based.

[12:22] - Another myth is that dyslexia will go away. It is not an illness that can be cured, but rather the way the brain is wired.

[13:31] - Although dyslexia isn’t something that can be cured, with the right intervention and starting the intervention early on, improvement can certainly be made.

[13:58] - Karen points out that dyslexia looks very different for each child who has it. This causes a lot of students to be overlooked in assessing their need for intervention.

[14:24] - Dr. Lauren compares the dyslexic “spectrum” to the spectrum of autism. Everyone is impacted very differently by this learning difference and many have comorbid disabilities.

[15:37] - There are some early indicators that parents and teachers can look for in grades as early as Kindergarten, including knowing their alphabet and being able to rhyme.

[17:39] - Dyslexia is more closely tied to hearing and receiving sounds rather than just letter and word reversal.

[19:36] - Dr. Lauren describes that systemic issue of understanding dyslexia. She also discusses the impact of affordability and demographics.

[20:58] - There is also a very real problem of race causing the mislabeling of students, specifically in boys.

[21:53] - Teaching is an exhausting career, but as educators it is their responsibility to help find the root cause of the problem. Dr. Lauren explains that it is the systemic issue at the university level of not providing teachers the understanding surrounding behaviors.

[22:54] - Dr. Wilson discusses the research surrounding race and the mislabeling of students of color.

[24:46] - Dr. Lauren shares that she has had experiences with families while explaining dyslexia that the parents themselves didn’t realize that they likely have dyslexia as well.

[26:02] - Understanding that dyslexic is genetic, Dr. Lauren is passionate in building relationships with the families of the students she works with.

[27:05] - By the time a student reaches third grade, they are reading to learn rather than learning to read. However, some fluent readers still show signs of dyslexia as their comprehension is impacted.

[29:37] - The first step in making change is having these conversations. Dr. Lauren is realizing that people want to know this information and want to be aware but don’t have the resources.

[30:22] - Dr. Lauren is also passionate about networking with others to help provide resources to communities.

[31:05] - It is a complex situation that is not an easy fix, but the literacy gap is huge.

[32:09] - Spreading awareness and understanding is the first step in this change. Parents who children are struggling to read may blame the teacher for not teaching them rather than trying to find the root cause of the problem.

[33:24] - Dr. Lauren is the founder of Think Dyslexia and explains how she came to developing this platform.

[35:44] - The mission for Think Dyslexia is to bring this knowledge to school districts to train teachers and provide support for educators in the field.





About Our Guest:

Dr. Lauren McClenney-Rosenstein's passion for educating, advocating, and bringing awareness to dyslexia at the domestic and international levels began in the elementary classrooms of private schools serving students with language-based learning disabilities. She has been a certified Special Educator for a decade, and she earned her Doctor of Education in Teaching, Learning, Leadership, and Curriculum in 2019 from Northeastern University and holds a dual masters in Special Education and Elementary Education from Syracuse University and a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology from Syracuse University. Her dedication to providing the gold standard of instruction to individuals with dyslexia led her to obtain her endorsement at the Associate level through The Orton-Gillingham Academy in 2014. Eventually, she expanded her skill set in the public schools as a 7th and 8th grade math and English Language Arts (ELA) co-teacher before taking a position with a non-profit organization that advocates for inclusion in public schools for students with disabilities.



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10 Jan 2023Ep. 115: A Family Approach to Dyslexia with Dr. Lauren00:40:38

When one person in a family is struggling, it impacts the entire family. This is true for everything, but it is particularly true for the families of a child with learning difficulties.

Today, we have the first guest of a brand new year, Dr. Lauren who has graciously been on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast before. Since the previous discussion we had about dyslexia (episode 21), Dr. Lauren has continued her mission in supporting families by launching The Dyslexia Mom Boss Podcast. She is also a member of the ChildNEXUS community and she takes a family approach when working with students.

Ultimately, it’s not just about the child with dyslexia, but about the entire family and how to support each other.

 

Show Notes:

[1:44] - Dr. Lauren was a previous guest on the podcast and has since launched her own podcast called Dyslexia Mom Boss.

[3:29] - Learning disabilities are not exclusive to the United States. They are a world issue.

[5:12] - Dr. Lauren shares her own experiences with ADHD.  Although she does not have dyslexia herself, her experiences with learning impacted her mission as an educator.

[7:05] - Her first teaching job was working in a school for students with dyslexia. This was the start of her passion in helping this population of learners.

[9:27] - There is a disconnect between what parents and educators know about dyslexia and the struggling child in the classroom.

[10:22] - A huge problem is the access to reliable information.

[12:02] - What is D3 and why does Dr. Lauren group these three learning disabilities together?

[14:14] - More often than not, there is a comorbidity in children with dyslexia.

[15:32] - Through the public school system, it could take a lot of time to discover learning disabilities, and delays in identification cause parents and children to become overwhelmed.

[17:03] - Parent training and learning is also incredibly important in supporting dyslexic children at home.

[18:05] - Dr. Lauren puts us in the shoes of a child with dyslexia.

[19:15] - When one person in the family is struggling, it impacts the entire family.

[21:54] - When your child is upset or struggling, your initial reaction is to make it better.

[23:17] - Through her experience, Dr. Lauren has found that intervention sessions turn into listening to the concerns of the parents.

[24:18] - Parents need to also pour into themselves and not solely focus on the unique needs of their child.

[26:06] - The stressors of raising a child with struggles can have a negative impact on the marriage and relationship between parents.

[27:20] - Our brains go to the negatives first. We have to actively change our mindset.

[29:53] - Our thoughts have so much power in how we feel and how we behave.

[31:40] - When there is so much focus on the struggle, it is easy to forget that these students have strengths too.

[33:20] - There is no one curriculum for the dyslexic learner because everyone is completely different.

[35:02] - In order to advocate for your child’s needs, it is crucial to learn about dyslexia and how to support your child.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Lauren’s passion for educating, advocating, and bringing awareness to dyslexia at the domestic and international levels began in the elementary classrooms of private schools serving students with language-based learning disabilities. She has been a certified Special Educator for over a decade, and she earned her Doctor of Education in Teaching, Learning, Leadership, & Curriculum in 2019 from Northeastern University and holds a dual masters in Special Education and Elementary Education from Syracuse University and a Bachelor’s degree in Psychology from Syracuse University.

Dr. Lauren is the CEO and founder of Think Dyslexia LLC and delivers training and professional development for teachers and administrators at the district level focusing on dyslexia awareness and dyslexia screening. Dr. Lauren has worked with over 15 school districts at the national and international level leading educators and leaders to success. Dr. Lauren believes in a holistic approach to the dyslexia journey and coaches families every step of the way in the process. 

 

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10 Aug 2021Ep. 42: Understanding Sensory Processing Disorder with Courtney Duckworth-Harris, MA, OTR/L00:32:57

In today’s episode, we’re discussing Sensory Processing Disorder. As with many other topics, this episode could really be turned into multiple conversations, so today we’re starting with what Sensory Processing Disorder is and our guest will help us understand how it manifests and interacts with other disorders.

 

My guest today is Courtney Duckworth-Harris, an Occupational Therapist and owner of Kinder Clinic in Los Angeles, California. Some children slip through the cracks and are misunderstood because they may not qualify for a diagnosis but are still struggling. These kids often present with Sensory Processing Disorder. Although SPD is becoming more understood in society, it still carries labels such as "bad behaviors" or "difficult kid." Courtney’s mission is to educate and empower families to look beyond the behaviors and understand their child's sensory needs. Through today’s conversation, she makes it clear that there are many ways sensory problems can impact a child’s daily life and how things will look for a child who struggles.

 

Listen on for a better understanding of Sensory Processing Disorder, how it affects day to day life, and how occupational therapy can help provide processing strategies.

 

Show Notes:

[2:14] - Sensory - Courtney explains what it means.

[3:36] - As adults we can feel anxious or overwhelmed when our visual and auditory systems are flooded.

[4:18] - A Sensory Processing Disorder means that one’s sensory systems are not communicating or relaying information to your brain smoothly.

[5:40] - Courtney explains that it is not exclusive to one sense and children are impacted by a combination of sensitivities.

[7:51] - Children with autism are more prone to have sensory processing issues. But, sensory processing issues do not always indicate an Autism Spectrum Disorder diagnosis.

[9:31] - Courtney shares examples of children working with her in sensory integration therapy.

[11:21] - Courtney begins by breaking down each sensory system but states that they do not exist separate from each other.

[11:44] - Auditory processing issues can manifest differently for each child.

[12:46] - How do visual processing issues show up?

[13:31] - Tactile sensitivity is a little more understood. Courtney gives some examples.

[14:09] - There are some lesser known sensory processing concerns that Courtney explains including vestibular and proprioceptive.

[16:14] - Courtney explains the difference between discrimination and modulation processing and gives several examples of what this looks like.

[17:19] - Sensory Processing Disorder impacts many aspects of a child’s daily life.

[19:12] - These difficulties can lead to high levels of anxiety.

[20:36] - Occupational therapy (OT) can address social emotional skills that are impacted by sensory processing.

[22:01] - With OT and other therapies, it starts with an assessment. Courtney describes the process of getting started in OT for sensory issues.

[23:41] - Although children of any age can benefit from services, Courtney states that working with children ages 4-12 is where she sees the most progress.

[25:27] - Courtney describes her facility and all the equipment she uses. She also explains what a typical session could look like.

[27:58] - There are many things that parents can do at home to support services.

[29:22] - We are all sensory beings. We all have strategies to help us process, calm, or stimulate our senses. Some children need guidance in order to regulate.

 

About Our Guest:

Courtney Duckworth-Harris received a Bachelors in Psychology from California Lutheran University in Thousand Oaks in 2007, and then her Masters in Occupational Therapy from USC in 2009. While in grad school she had the opportunity to take courses in sensory integration and fell in love with this type of therapy. As she was finishing up her masters, she completed her final fieldwork at Kinder Clinic, then owned by Aneeta Sagar. There, her education in pediatric OT and sensory integration was expanded and it confirmed her passion for this field. Since then, she has focused her career in pediatrics and specialized in sensory integration therapy. In September 2020, all these years later, she was presented with the opportunity to take over Kinder Clinic. At Kinder Clinic, Courtney works closely with families and provides individualized therapeutic support so the child can become a happier, and more confident, independent, and successful member of their family and community. 

 

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26 Nov 2024Ep. 213: Top Interventions for Improving Executive Functioning Skills00:26:42

Listen in as we discuss executive functioning and unpack its critical role in managing daily life and long-term success. There are the three core executive functions - inhibitory control, working memory, and cognitive flexibility – and they form the foundation for skills like organization, planning, and emotional regulation.

Hear compelling research that highlights the lifelong impact of executive functioning, including studies linking early skill development to improved academic, social, and career outcomes. We also discuss interventions that can significantly enhance these skills, with surprising findings that reveal that practicing mindfulness with movement, such as Tai Chi produces the strongest results.

Discover practical insights and evidence-based strategies for supporting neurodivergent individuals - and anyone looking to strengthen their executive functioning skills. Whether you're a parent, educator, or simply curious, this episode offers invaluable tools for fostering growth and resilience.

Show Notes:

[0:48] - Hear about a recent presentation on executive functioning interventions at a summit on neurodivergence in Los Angeles.
[2:06] - Executive functioning involves applying problem-solving skills for goals, with core functions such as inhibitory control.
[5:06] - Cognitive flexibility fosters perspective-shifting, enabling problem-solving, planning, and decision-making in daily life.
[7:45] - Strengthening executive functions early enhances academic performance, societal opportunities, and long-term success.
[10:18] - Research shows impulse control predicts better adulthood outcomes than IQ, gender, or social class.
[13:52] - Movement-based mindfulness practices like Tai Chi and Taekwondo most effectively improve executive functioning skills.
[16:54] - Non-computerized cognitive training excels due to in-person interaction, boosting executive functioning outcomes.
[20:06] - Sports improve executive functioning through attention, self-regulation, and social bonding while fostering joy.
[23:34] - Multimodal approaches to executive functioning training reduce inequality and enhance skills across diverse populations.

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07 Jun 2022Ep. 84: Dynamic Assessments with Dr. Daniel Franklin00:40:23

We’ve discussed assessments before in previous episodes, but today’s episode is unique. Parents and educators may be unfamiliar with dynamic assessments and how they can not only benefit the educator in driving instruction, but also help the student learn more about the ways they learn and achieve success.

Dr. Daniel Franklin is no stranger to the ChildNEXUS community as a ChildNEXUS provider and the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. In a previous episode, Dr. Franklin discussed his book Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities and he joins me today to share his expertise on the topic of dynamic assessments. For the conversation today, Dr. Franklin discusses this type of assessment from the point of view of the practitioner, but he also shares a lot of the history and science behind why dynamic assessments can benefit students and educators. 

What sets these assessments apart from other forms? Listen to find out more.

 

Show Notes:

[2:24] - Dynamic assessments are not as well known as other forms of assessments to parents and educators.

[3:12] - Dynamic assessments involve a high level of interaction in varying degrees.

[4:23] - Dr. Franklin describes the history of dynamic assessments dating back to the 1930’s.

[5:46] - The younger the student is, the more necessary it is for instruction to be mediated.

[6:32] - How can we use assessments dynamically to determine a student’s potential?

[8:44] - You can have two kids get the same exact score on the exact same test but they can have their score for very different reasons.

[10:55] - When a child takes a test, they may have a behavioral or psychological difference that impacts their ability to perform on the test.

[12:04] - Dr. Franklin demonstrates how he proctors a dynamic assessment.

[13:27] - You can have a child take a test that they should do very well on, but they may shut down on the first question.

[14:52] - Teachers may not be available to provide a dynamic assessment.

[15:51] - Dynamic assessments are a reasonable and appropriate accommodation on a student’s IEP.

[17:33] - Are guidance and prompts permitted during dynamic assessments? Dr. Franklin says there are different approaches.

[21:14] - Repeated mistakes can be examined quickly.

[23:02] - The valuable information gathered from a dynamic instruction is why a student is struggling.

[24:51] - Another key element to dynamic assessments is in writing.

[26:32] - Within writing support, there is the concern about authorship.

[27:31] - Practitioners should be in contact with educators to clarify all the notes taken and the legitimacy of the assessment particularly in the area of writing.

[29:17] - Standardized tests are given to all students under the same conditions and cannot be deviated from the set guidelines.

[30:50] - Dr. Wilson gives an example of how she creates a report to show what a child could do outside a standardized test and what information can help guide teachers in their instruction.

[32:52] - One of the benefits of dynamic assessments is determining the potential of a child.

[34:02] - If children continue to experience struggle and failure, it can unfortunately become how they perceive themselves.

[35:18] - Sharing your observations with the child is an opportunity to model instruction and boost confidence.

[36:53] - A parent can also use a homework assignment dynamically to help determine where they can help in a meaningful way.

[37:50] - Traditional testing often makes the assumption that every child comes to the assessment with the same tools.



About Our Guest:

Dr. Franklin is the author of Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities, and a co-editor of The Los Angeles Psychologist. He holds a master’s degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education and a PhD from UCLA in Education. Dr. Franklin has over 30 years of experience in education as a teacher, administrator, and educational consultant. 

 

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28 Sep 2021Ep. 49: Understanding Auditory Processing Disorder with Dr. Bea Braun00:35:59

The umbrella of auditory processing disorders is very broad and many signs might overlap with other types of learning differences. This can make things very confusing, especially for parents who are looking for answers. That is why I have asked my go-to expert on the topic, clinical audiologist Dr. Bea Braun to join us on Diverse Thinking Different Learning. Her years of experience, thorough testing techniques, and intervention strategies make her the perfect guest for today’s conversation on auditory processing disorders.

 

In today’s episode, Dr. Braun explains different subtypes of auditory processing disorders, what they look like, and what testing entails. Sometimes, auditory processing disorders can look like a child with difficulty following multi-step directions, misunderstanding information, challenges in understanding in a noisy environment, or mishearing words. She helps us to understand that auditory processing isn’t just about hearing and can impact academics and day-to-day life for children if it goes unaddressed. Listen on to find out more about what to do if you suspect an auditory processing issue in your own child and what to expect with testing and intervention.

 

Show Notes:

[2:00] - Welcome to the podcast, Dr. Braun!

[3:19] - Auditory processing is what happens when sounds leave the ears and are processed as language. There are many types of processing.

[4:46] - The most common concern from parents is difficulty following multi-step directions, retelling information, and being unable to understand in noisy environments.

[6:27] - Some children will also have difficulty with picking up on tone of voice.

[7:31] - A lot of auditory processing signs overlap with those of ADHD.

[9:33] - Dr. Braun explains that central auditory processing and auditory processing are essentially the same thing.

[11:08] - Dr. Wilson does not diagnose auditory processing disorders and refers children to audiologists for further testing in some cases.

[12:35] - Dr. Braun describes auditory processing tests and what they tell her.

[15:34] - This testing takes an hour and a half to two hours and is very thorough.

[17:09] - There are many things that can be done to improve. Dr. Braun shares how there are at-home programs that are very exciting.

[19:15] - Intervention for auditory processing took a long time to become more available to children.

[20:46] - Collaboration is very important for proper intervention.

[22:18] - Other types of specialists, like speech and language pathologists, can work with audiologists to help address different areas of struggle.

[25:04] - Depending on the subtype of auditory processing disorder, there are different supports that can be implemented in the classroom.

[26:27] - Repeating and not rephrasing is important.

[27:55] - Multiple modality cues are also very helpful for students in the classroom.

[28:37] - There is also hearing assistive technology available. Dr. Braun explains her approach with this type of support.

[30:30] - Many school districts are facilitating training in schools now as well.

[31:42] - If you start with interventions when children are very young, the progress is very fast.

[33:50] - However, starting training later in life can also make a huge difference. Understanding their differences is very empowering for students.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Bea Braun, is a clinical audiologist and a credentialed educational audiologist with 23 years of experience completing central auditory processing evaluations. Dr. Braun has completed over 12,000 comprehensive central auditory processing evaluations. She is an expert in the area of central auditory processing and specializes in testing children as young as age 5 as well as adults, including individuals diagnosed with ASD, ADHD, traumatic brain injury, and those identified as twice-exceptional. Dr. Braun has her own private practice in Woodland Hills and Santa Barbara and has worked with over 80 school districts in southern and central California. She is also an adjunct professor at California State University, Los Angeles.

 

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29 Dec 2020Ep. 10: Building Independence Through Educational Therapy with Rachel Kapp00:37:01

Educational therapy is oftentimes an unknown term for parents and families. This podcast episode may even be the first time you’ve heard it yourself. That is why I am so excited to have a passionate educational therapist as our guest today on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast.

 

Rachel Kapp is an educational therapist with an extensive background in the field of education. After working with so many types of students through tutoring in private practice, she became passionate about building relationships with and helping students who learn differently. She completed her coursework in Educational Therapy at the California State University, Northridge in 2015 and her Master’s degree in 2016. She is now a sought after educational therapist and co-host of the Learn Smarter Podcast.

 

Rachel’s mission is so clear in this episode and to say our missions align is an understatement. Listen to find out how she reignites the love of learning for students on their journey towards becoming independent and autonomous learners.

 

Show Notes:

[1:39] - The first podcast that Karen was a guest for was Rachel’s podcast Learn Smarter and inspired her to start Diverse Thinking Different Learning.

[3:22] - Educational therapy is not typically a term parents are familiar with. As an educational therapist, Rachel works one-on-one with students with different learning profiles to help provide skills and strategies that guide them towards becoming independent and autonomous learners.

[4:53] - For many children, there has been a significant struggle over an extended period of time which may have led them to lose their love of learning.

[5:21] - Children hear conversations in their home and at school that they aren’t performing well enough and get the message that they aren’t trying.

[6:10] - The first step for Rachel as an educational therapist is to honor the journey they’ve been on.

[8:05] - Rachel and a fellow educational therapist that co-hosts her podcast have come up with a framework called the ABC’s of Educational Therapy. The first phase is the assessment phase.

[9:14] - During the first phase of gathering information, Rachel listens to the child’s explain their experiences and this is often the first time the student has shared this information in a space without judgment.

[9:27] - The next stage is the building process. This is where skills and strategies are being built. Rachel also describes what this could look like in virtual learning.

[10:57] - Eventually, Rachel is able to take a step back and let the child be independent. Most parents are scared of this because things are working smoothly, but the child is ready.

[11:52] - Educational therapy looks different for each student. What works for one child might not be best for another.

[13:13] - Educational therapists also serve in a way as a case manager. The parent coaching piece has become very important.

[14:38] - Sometimes when we step back, the student falls. But Rachel says this is a necessary step in learning.

[15:22] - Learning happens when it is active and productive. It happens when things are hard but not too hard. 

[16:33] - An educational therapist is not interested in the content being learned. It's about teaching the students how to access the curriculum and giving them strategies on what to do when they don’t understand.

[17:41] - Teachers have risen to the challenge with virtual learning. Ask for help if needed.

[19:56] - Karen and Rachel discuss how writing is a huge challenge. Rachel breaks down how she approaches helping students with writing as an educational therapist.

[21:43] - Is it an issue of not being able to think of content or is it an issue of not being able to write it down?

[22:59] - Breaking down the writing process to be more achievable is key. The mechanics of writing should be the last step.

[24:10] - A lot of schools and teachers are open to different approaches, so ask for clarification.

[25:56] - With distance learning, parents are seeing problems that educational therapists have been seeing for a long time, particularly the difficulty of using online portals.

[27:10] - Part of the building process for virtual learning is developing systems, routines, and calendars to organize their days.

[28:16] - In this building process, the goal is to build a strong system of managing time, managing things, and creating rules.

[30:02] - Therapists have a unique perspective because they can see the online portals of all schools and classrooms. Rachel describes what works best in her experience.

[31:43] - Rachel shares that in all her years of working as an educational therapist, she has never met a parent that has said that their child does not experience anxiety about learning.

[34:13] - Helping kids create their own rules is part of Rachel’s process as well. This is empowering.

 

About Our Guest:

Rachel grew up in Los Angeles. She graduated from the University of California, Berkeley, where she earned a Bachelor of Arts with Honors in Sociology and minored in Jewish Studies. Rachel began tutoring students in high school, eventually choosing to pursue a career in education. For over six years, Rachel was a lead preschool teacher where she gained a firm foundation in explicit teaching. Rachel has been a tutor in private practice since 2004, working with students in a variety of subjects including all levels of math, reading, history and writing. After working with so many types of students over the years and realizing she was passionate about building relationships with and helping students who learn differently, Rachel decided to pursue Educational Therapy. She completed her coursework at the California State University, Northridge in December 2015 and Masters degree in December 2016. In her free time, Rachel loves spending time with her husband, Adam, and their dog, Fritzy, watching Cal Football, cooking for friends, and spinning. She is now a sought after Educational therapist and co-host of the Learn Smarter Podcast.

 

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03 Oct 2023Ep. 153: Understanding Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD) with Dr. Jesse Spiegel00:31:04

Over the last few years, we’ve seen a noticeable increase in anxiety and anxiety disorders in children and adolescents. And we’ve talked about anxiety many times on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. But one thing we haven’t discussed yet is Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder or OCD. This is a topic that has been requested by listeners and I’m thrilled to have found today’s guest, Dr. Jesse Spiegel, an expert on OCD.

Everyone has had the occasional concern about misplacing something or has had a fear of germs or contamination. Sometimes we have a need to order and arrange things in a particular way. But when these thoughts and behaviors become intense and begin to interfere with life, they may indicate OCD. In our conversation today, Dr. Spiegel explains the major differences between obsessive behaviors and compulsions as well as common unintentional mistakes parents make with children who exhibit these behaviors.

 

Show Notes:

[2:28] - We are currently seeing a noticeable increase in anxiety in children and teens.

[4:05] - OCD has two components: obsessions and compulsions.

[5:48] - There are some compulsions that are observable to other people, but many compulsions are mental and unseen by others.

[8:04] - Reassurance seeking is often overlooked by parents, but it is common in OCD and tends to feed the obsessions and compulsions.

[10:03] - When you accommodate the child’s compulsive behaviors, it actually accommodates the OCD.

[11:49] - Anxiety disorders overlap in a lot of ways, but OCD is overpowering.

[15:00] - Exposure Response Prevention (ERP) is a component of the treatment for OCD. Dr. Spiegel explains what this entails.

[19:12] - Being over accommodating or over demanding are mistakes that a lot of parents of children with OCD make.

[20:16] - Parents need to learn new ways to respond because a lot of behaviors unintentionally fuel OCD.

[22:27] - Let’s give a name to OCD for children. Some call it “The Worry Monster”.

[24:57] - Giving it a name takes the power away from OCD. It’s not who you are, but it is impacting you.

[26:30] - A lot of times, kids do not want to be in therapy. Dr. Spiegel describes some ways to provide motivation.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Jesse Spiegel is a licensed clinical psychologist treating children, adolescents, and adults. He works in private practice in Los Angeles, CA, where he specializes in treating OCD, anxiety, insomnia, and behavioral-related problems. In addition to utilizing CBT and exposure-based therapies, Dr. Spiegel takes a family-based approach when working with clients.

Dr. Spiegel is a clinical instructor at UCLA’s David Geffen School of Medicine’s Department of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences.  He is the Vice Chair of the Anxiety Depression Association of America’s (ADAA) OCD SIG.   Dr. Spiegel is a graduate of the IOCDF’s Behavioral Therapy Training Institute (BTTI), as well as the Supportive Parenting for Anxious Childhood Emotions (SPACE) program.

 

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01 Feb 2022Ep. 66: How to Parent with More Compassion and Confidence with Sari Goodman00:35:44

Parenting can be hard. And, parenting a child who thinks or learns differently has its own unique challenges. But there’s so much joy in parenting. Many parents express wanting to experience that joy more frequently and that’s where a parent coach comes in. Today’s podcast guest is a parent coach with a lot of tips and strategies that can give parents the confidence to experience the joy of parenting.

Sari Goodman is a Certified Parent Educator and in this episode, we discuss the needs of parents in navigating challenges with their children. As we know, kids don’t come with instruction manuals and every parent experiences struggles. So, no matter your style of parenting or the unique needs of your children, this episode will provide you with the information you need to put aside judgment and find the confidence you need.

 

Show Notes:

[1:50] - Welcome to the show, Sari!

[3:20] - Right now, parents are under a lot of stress. Adding the stress of not knowing how to support their child creates an overwhelming situation.

[4:31] - Sometimes the fear of being judged affects how we parent.

[6:01] - The perfect family photos on social media are a cover up. Every parent has their challenges.

[7:18] - Sari says juggling work, family, and school (including sudden school closures) are all adding to parent stress and making it hard to maintain a schedule.

[8:35] - Structure provides comfort.

[9:34] - Sari shares that she often explains to parents what is normal to help parents be calm about their child’s behavior.

[11:00] - We need a “village” of “our people” to help support each other.

[12:07] - Especially with neurodiverse children, we have to try strategies that differ from the norm. Sari shares that trying new things is brave.

[14:01] - The parents that Sari coaches can call her any time and that support and availability make a huge difference.

[15:08] - Parents judge themselves more severely than others and that creates undue stress.

[15:59] - Sari shares some strategies and things she observes in the home.

[17:50] - Authentic compliments to other parents can create an alliance and far less judgment.

[20:40] - The fear of a child looking different and needing accommodations has hindered many parents from giving their child what they need to learn.

[22:44] - It is not wrong to be different.

[23:12] - Sari shares a personal story to demonstrate that sometimes we think we are being judged when we really aren’t.

[26:18] - Special events in class and field trips change structure. Parents can and should prepare the child who needs that structure.

[28:39] - Accommodations that help at school could be utilized at home as well.

[30:18] - Every parent has experienced struggle. Sari’s work normalizes that.

[32:40] - Positive structure and predictability is calming.

[34:10] - Email Sari at Sari@TheParentalEdge.com for Sari’s list of tactics parents can use to keep from feeling judged.

 

About Our Guest:

Sari Goodman is a Certified Parent Educator and Trainer who is an avid cheerleader for the most significant people in a child’s life - the parents.

She supports parents and guardians by developing a comprehensive understanding of family dynamics to create a customized action plan that reduces chaos and brings calm. 

She has been an educator of students, teachers, and parents for over 30 years:

  • Administrator & Teacher (preschool-grade 8)
  • Adjunct faculty for Teacher Training (Department of Education, Mt. St. Mary’s College)
  • Special Education (Masters Degree and teaching credentials)
  • Parent Education and Coaching (individual family coaching, parenting workshops, professional development on parenting for teachers and administrators)

 

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03 Aug 2021Ep. 41: How to Inspire Kids to Love Math with Allison Dillard00:33:39

How do you inspire kids to love math, and do you approach things differently when working with students who have learning disorders? The truth is, a lot of kids find math challenging and that challenge may stop them in their tracks. So how can we as parents, teachers, and caregivers help them persist? This is the perfect topic for today’s guest, Allison Dillard.

 

Allison is the host of The Allison Loves Math Podcast, a podcast celebrating leaders, legends, and trailblazers who are empowering the world to love math. She is also the author of The Love Math Journal, a tool to help young students cultivate gratitude, growth mindset, and a love of math. Crush Math Now is another of her publications designed for students who struggle with the subject.

 

Math can make students, children and adults alike feel anxious, stressed, and worried, especially if a learning difference is also in the picture. Listen to this conversation to find out how Allison helps students fall in love with the challenges of math and how you can guide children, too.

 

Show Notes:

[2:36] - Allison loves math so much that in her down time, she hosts a math podcast. She shares why she loves it.

[4:04] - Being able to persist even when things get hard is a life skill that can develop through learning math skills. The struggle is beneficial.

[5:00] - If you believe you can do something, you figure out a way to make it happen. [6:09] - Allison teaches at a community college teaching remedial classes where students have been telling themselves for a decade that they cannot learn math.

[7:13] - A huge part of the equation comes from parents who tell them that it’s okay to “be bad at math.” Allison explains that stopping the negative conversation is key.

[8:37] - Allison Loves Math Podcast combines parenting and math talk for teachers to help support students and families.

[9:57] - We can’t always control what happens in a classroom regarding math talk and negativity, but parents can control how they converse at home.

[10:40] - Allson created The Love Math Journal that connects learning challenges with learning math in a positive way to promote growth mindset and reflection.

[11:41] - When we get something wrong, we reflect on how we went about it. Children don’t inherently know how to do that and need to be taught persistence.

[12:52] - Comparing math to sports is a great way to make things fun and relatable.

[14:07] - Allison gives examples of how to help students practice for testing.

[15:15] - When Allison works with students with learning disabilities, she focuses on experimentation in solving problems.

[16:57] - If the first strategy doesn’t work for a student, changing it up over and over again until they find what works for them is best.

[17:53] - Allison began working with students as a tutor in high school and college. She shares the impact of that experience.

[20:00] - Students who receive accommodations, especially during testing, often think that if accommodations can’t “fix” the problem, it is unsolvable.

[22:34] - Karen and Allison love statistics while many people dread learning it. Allison explains why she loves statistics and the importance of understanding it.

[24:16] - Statistics is a great tool for students to connect with math through real-world skills and topics.

[25:32] - Even with vaccine research and COVID-19 data, adults and kids need to understand statistics to understand what is going on in the world.

[28:00] - Allison shares how she experienced a health challenge in high school. 

[29:28] - Parents can help their children understand their challenges through researching their own struggles.

[30:51] - Allison shares ways to help students love math, including relating it back to real life and learning to value challenges.

 

About Our Guest:

Allison Dillard is an adjunct math professor at Irvine Valley College, author of several math books including Crush Math Now and The Love Math Journal. She is also the host of the Allison Loves Math Podcast, where she interviews experts in education and parenting about how to help our kids and students to value, love and succeed in math.

 

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22 Jun 2021Ep. 35: Providing Support to Children from Underserved Communities with Special Needs Network, Inc.00:41:32

Poverty and socioeconomic status impacts school readiness, language development, and the important early intervention of learning disabilities. During the Covid-19 pandemic, these already underserved communities were even more drastically impacted by the inequities of our special education system. There are a lot of layers to this overwhelming problem, but through the work of organizations like the Special Needs Network in LA and individuals like Daniel Mendoza and Marcos Aguilar, we are spreading awareness and access to services otherwise difficult to obtain.

 

In this episode, Daniel and Marcos explain how children with special needs are impacted by inequities in their community. Daniel is the Clinical Director for the Special Needs Network’s Applied Behavior Program and shares in this episode how some children with Autism are not given the services they need in underserved communities. Marcos is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst and Assistant Clinical Director at Special Needs Network and together with their behavioral health team, provides education and resources to families, children, and adults. They have created multiple “access points” to reach as many families in need as they can.

 

We could have multiple episodes on this important topic, but their mission is clear. The Special Needs Network is doing tremendous work in their community in raising public awareness of developmental disabilities and impacting public policy. I’m honored to have Daniel and Marcos on the show today to further spread this awareness.

Show Notes:

[1:59] - Dr. Wilson shares her experience with the Special Needs Network at the beginning of the Covid-19 pandemic.

[2:57] - Daniel explains the beginning of the Special Needs Network and how it has grown since 2005.

[4:22] - There has been an increased awareness regarding the inequities in education, particularly special education.

[5:30] - The programs that Special Needs Network offer were crucial during Covid-19. Daniel describes the experience for many parents and families.

[6:28] - During the pandemic, Special Needs Network was able to help fill the gap in services when services couldn’t continue in school.

[7:29] - Daniel explains what ABA therapy is and the benefits of it for anyone but especially those with Autism.

[9:01] - Marcos further explains ABA therapy for those with Autism. Some behaviors are due to an inability to effectively communicate.

[10:03] - The delay in services for children with Autism can be up to 2 years in underserved communities.

[11:22] - Daniel points out that in underserved communities, parent concerns are not taken as seriously. Parents tend to give up in their efforts to find support and early intervention.

[12:17] - The lack of understanding and access to services has caused some children to not obtain therapy in some cases till they are teenagers.

[13:43] - Dr. Wilson shares that she has known of families crossing state lines to seek services in other states. This is inequitable as services should be available everywhere.

[14:22] - The United States is “late to the game” on services for Autism.

[15:18] - Underserved communities also experience inequities in other services, even healthcare.

[16:40] - Daniel describes how the Special Needs Network approaches this overwhelming work.

[17:42] - What is “boots on the ground”? 

[19:09] - Special Needs Network also attracts people with resources and supplies like backpacks and food during special events. They also partner with larger corporations to reach more families.

[20:50] - All the different access points for Special Needs Network, they’ve created an infrastructure in their community, including pediatricians.

[22:00] - Special Needs Network also partners with schools and is working on referral systems for school psychologists and another entry point for students.

[24:07] - Parent support is also vital as having a child with special needs can be very isolating and have a negative stigma.

[25:08] - Marcos emphasizes the importance of collaboration with families.

[26:27] - When the team works together as a unit, that is when you see the child “take off.”

[27:27] - Marcos tells families that he doesn’t want to be the best to work with their child, but wants to be able to access work for their child and connect them to the right programs.

[28:43] - Parents connecting with each other creates word of mouth for Special Needs Network but also builds a community of support for families with similar challenges.

[31:26] - Parent mentoring also helps with the negative stigma of having a child with special needs. It creates hope for parents who are discouraged.

[32:31] - Society has two different models of looking at developmental disabilities. Daniel explains them both.

[34:24] - There needs to be societal change in this area of acceptance.

[37:29] - Dr. Wilson invited Daniel and Marcos to speak at a town hall coming up.

[38:37] - Daniel describes a new facility opening in December of this year and what they will be able to offer in one building.




About Our Guests and Special Needs Network:

Daniel Mendoza is the Clinical Director for Special Needs Network’s Applied Behavior Analysis program, and Marcos Aguilar is a Board Certified Behavior Analyst and Assistant Clinical Director at Special Needs Network, Inc.  Both Daniel and Marcos are part of an interdisciplinary behavioral health team that includes behavioral analysts, clinical psychologists, social workers, and pediatricians, providing behavioral health treatment to children diagnosed with autism.

Special Needs Network, Inc. is a community-based non-profit organization dedicated to addressing the needs of underserved families struggling with raising a child with developmental disabilities.  Their mission is to raise public awareness of developmental disabilities and to impact public policy, while providing education and resources to families, children and adults. SNN serves as a link between under-served communities and mainstream developmental disability organizations and governmental institutions, which often fail to address issues specific to these communities. SNN firmly believes that dignity, hope and opportunity are the birthright of all children.

Founded in 2005, Special Needs Network, Inc. (SNN) grew out of the struggles of Areva D. Martin, Esq. after her son Marty was diagnosed with autism at the age of 2. After finding it incredibly difficult to access services for Marty, Ms. Martin became aware of the enormous challenges faced by families affected by developmental disabilities in underserved communities – in particular, the neighborhood of South Los Angeles. A Harvard-trained attorney, Ms. Martin used her entrepreneurial and legal skills, as well as her own experiences navigating the complex system of care, to create a parent-centered organization with a mission to help the communities in need through four resolutions:
1. Reduce the waiting period for families to have their children diagnosed;
2. Bring education, resources, and services directly to the community;
3. Provide unique learning opportunities for children and young adults with developmental disabilities; and
4. Forge an action-based coalition of families empowered to self-advocate at all levels of government.



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14 Nov 2023Ep. 159: The Benefits of Boarding for Diverse Learners with Sara Jackson00:24:14

Parents frequently find themselves searching for the perfect educational environment for their child. And when you have a child who thinks and learns differently, you may also look for an environment where your child has access to interventions that address their unique needs, a program that incorporates clinical support, helps your child develop social-emotional learning and adaptive functioning skills, and provides them with the support of a community of educators and peers. For some students, that could mean a residential or boarding program, where they live and learn in the same place. 

Sara Jackson joins us today to talk about the benefits of this type of program for neurodivergent youth. Listen to learn more.

 

Show Notes:

[2:30] - A boarding school is special because a student is getting the full academic learning, but their life after school is intentionally programmed as well.

[4:35] - Boarding school integrates social-emotional learning into the day-to-day schedule for students which in many other environments is missing.

[6:42] - There is a lot of opportunity for incidental learning.

[8:02] - The biggest benefit for neurodiverse students in a residential program is the built-in community.

[9:33] - Sara explains that the students they serve are experiencing life-changing events that are building self-confidence.

[11:04] - Who is a good candidate for a residential program and what is the right age? It’s a whole family decision.

[13:06] - For a child with learning challenges, the struggles are often the focus. But, a personalized education program like this gives the opportunity to focus on strengths and interests.

[15:13] - In order to thrive, some students need a specialized program.

[16:48] - When students are successful outside of school, it increases confidence during academic learning as well. 

[19:01] - Sara describes a typical day for students at Riverview School.

[21:16] - Parents are close partners with Riverview School.

[22:49] - For more information, visit their website. There are virtual and in-person information sessions available.

 

About Our Guest:

Sara has a BA in Neuroscience from Hamilton College and Master of Social Work from Boston University. She is a licensed clinical social worker. Sara has worked at Riverview School since 2001, in a number of positions including as direct care staff, a clinician, the social pragmatics and behavior specialist and currently as the coordinator of the middle school/high school boarding program. 

 

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23 Nov 2021Ep. 57: Supporting Students Who Struggle with Writing with Jan Esterkin00:34:46

There are a number of different reasons behind why a child is struggling with writing. It could be dysgraphia, a disorder of written expression, a specific learning disability in the area of writing, or just being a little behind relative to their peers. The challenge is how to know the difference and how to help. Because writing is a skill that is impacted by several different learning difficulties, we’re digging in today with Educational Therapist, Jan Esterkin.

Jan’s passion for teaching reading and writing is evident in today’s episode as she helps us understand the difference between some of the underlying issues in writing struggles. She gives us several tools and a generous list of resources to help struggling students of all ages. Not only do writing struggles look different per child, but the intervention designed to help them looks different based on their grade level, too. There are a lot of things to consider when supporting struggling writers and with Jan’s help, we can get started with a toolbox of graphic organizers, writing activities, games, and more.

 

Show Notes:

[1:19] - Welcome to the show, Jan! Jan and Dr. Wilson have been working together for a long time.

[2:52] - The reason behind a writing struggle determines what to do to help them.

[3:56] - Jan defines and describes dysgraphia and lists some of the red flags.

[4:46] - The most common problem of the students Jan works with is organizing their thoughts on paper.

[6:50] - The intervention for the child who has a pencil grip issue and the child who has trouble spelling will be entirely different but both may have dysgraphia.

[8:11] - Jan uses Handwriting Without Tears to support students who have difficulty keeping their writing on the lines.

[9:40] - Using a graphic organizer, Jan also supports students who struggle getting started with writing something.

[12:20] - Getting thoughts on paper is a separate process from grammar, spelling, and the mechanics of writing.

[13:10] - Writing in first grade is much different than writing in fourth grade. Jan describes the differences between working with the different grade levels of students.

[15:12] - Jan uses a program called Step Up to Writing and explains why she likes the program to support students who need visual models.

[17:46] - The folder of resources Jan provides to students helps them with “being stuck.”

[19:30] - Jan recommends a book called Banish Boring Words.

[21:00] - Executive functioning skills play a larger role in writing than in math or reading.

[23:20] - There is so much to think about simultaneously while writing.

[25:40] - Jan demonstrates how to make a game out of making boring sentences more interesting.

[28:50] - When a child can get their thoughts on paper, there is so much pride in this skill being developed.

[29:56] - Jan uses several games and a lot of humor in this process of supporting students.

[32:30] - Jan has provided us with a list of resources that you can find here and linked below.

 

About Our Guest:

Jan has been practicing educational therapy since 2002.  Prior to her graduate classes at UCLA in educational therapy, she earned 2 Masters Degrees, one in Education from Boston University and the other in Counseling and Guidance from Loyola Marymount University. Jan taught first through third grade in Los Angeles and was the school’s reading specialist before beginning her private practice. She also worked with three educational therapists at two Los Angeles public schools supporting struggling students in a one-to-one setting.

Jan is a member of the Association of Educational Therapists and Child Nexus. She has been on the board of AET chairing the Study Groups. She attends the AET annual conference, the International Dyslexia Los Angeles conference and maintains her continuing education through these conferences, webinars, podcasts, study groups, and zoom meetings. Jan loves to work with elementary age students in all subjects, especially in teaching reading and the writing process. Her love and compassion for her work is seen in her students’ progress and their growing self-confidence.

 

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11 Apr 2023Ep. 128: How Deep Learning Can Help Develop Critical Thinking Skills with Jim Hahn and Dr. Jon Cassie00:39:40

Navigating a complex world is daunting and it becomes even more challenging for people who think and learn differently. These students may struggle in the traditional school environment, particularly with engagement. They might even ask, “What’s the point?” 

But the traditional school environment isn’t the only option and today’s guests from Qualia: The School for Deeper Learning join this conversation about how their model of education not only engages students but prepares them to navigate adulthood with strong critical thinking skills.

Qualia can be compared to an all-day intellectual dinner party – a place where brainy word play, clever argumentation, and surprising ideas come together in a milieu that provokes, entertains and inspires. Jim Hahn and Dr. Jon Cassie explain the importance of creating the space and time for reflection, reasoning, existential questioning, and the sharing and communicating of ideas and how this became the core of deeper learning at Qualia.

 

Show Notes:

[2:15] - The focus is often on remediation for students who struggle, but critical thinking is overlooked.

[3:37] - At Qualia, students take Philosophy courses every year to help develop critical thinking skills.

[6:20] - Why Philosophy? What is it about this subject area that Qualia focuses on?

[8:06] - Adding in this model of education is impactful as early as Kindergarten.

[9:26] - With small class sizes, teachers can give students the appropriate amount of attention and hold real conversations.

[11:51] - Through sharing and communicating ideas, students show their identity rather than letting their diagnoses be their identity.

[13:20] - Jim describes the outcomes of this type of educational model.

[15:45] - Having an influence on critical thinking early on pays off in adulthood.

[18:53] - There are five questions that are crucial to someone’s ability to think critically about anything they encounter.

[20:51] - These conversations are so memorable for students. This “less is more” approach makes things simple but impactful.

[23:05] - Content is important, but linking the content to the big questions is what creates deep learning.

[24:56] - How do introverts do in this type of environment? Jim and Jon share what the culture is like at Qualia.

[26:20] - Character development is another key component in these types of discussions.

[28:03] - Dr. Wilson shares the online description of Qualia which is a depiction of meaningful, deep learning that can happen there.

[29:57] - Kids are eager to make connections and adults can serve as facilitators.

[31:31] - Teachers trust students to carry a conversation, collaborate and solve messy problems.

[32:35] - The challenges through this model of learning are realistic.

[33:42] - The focus on helping students develop connections and discover themselves prepares them to navigate a complex world.

[35:30] - Listen to an example of a student’s work on environmental justice.

 

About Our Guests:

Jim Hahn

An inveterate explorer of knowledge, ideas, contraptions, and cultures, Jim has taught everything from philosophy to chemistry to Rube Goldberg Machines during his 30+ year career in education. As the founder of Qualia: The School For Deeper Learning, Jim is bringing his renowned cutting-edge educational model to a new level with his democratic educational philosophy, unique teaching and mentoring approach, and innovative deep learning curriculum. Jim began his teaching career at Crossroads School, then joined New Roads as Academic Dean and Dean of Faculty, and later founded Areté Preparatory Academy to create a next-generation school for brilliant and independent young minds for over a decade. Jim has inspired many students to think deeply, care deeply, and forge extraordinary paths. Jim is the proud parent of an Areté alumna, currently attending Pitzer College, and a current Qualia student; both children are living embodiments of the impactful results of Jim’s transformative and revolutionary educational methods.

 

Dr.  Jon Cassie

Dr. Cassie has been in independent school education for 25 years serving in virtually every teaching and leadership capacity schools have to offer. His book on game-based learning, Level Up Your Classroom was published in 2016 and won a gold medal for best technical book from Association Media and Publishing in 2017. His chapter on social-emotional learning and roleplaying games, "Don't Split the Party," was published in "Teaching in the Game-Based Classroom," in 2021. He has also written for the tabletop roleplaying sector for about 20 years. Two of his books, Loot and Folkways are about cultural aspects of roleplaying design and are available on DriveThruRPG. Dr. Cassis also hosts two podcasts about education - "Many Windows" and "Game Level Learn." He has also appeared on a number of podcasts speaking about the future of education, given the commencement address at Northland Pioneer College, and has presented at conferences and forums on learning and games in the US and abroad. He earned his doctorate from UCLA in 2010. 

 

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04 Apr 2023Ep. 127: How Family Environment Shapes Brain Development with Dr. Jesse Fischer00:34:54

Research has shown that family environment is a significant predictor of outcomes when it comes to traumatic brain injuries. But how can family environment, things like parenting, intimacy, and communication styles impact outcomes in children and adolescents with learning challenges?

Turns out, family environment has a huge impact on the way every child’s brain develops and Dr. Jesse Fischer joins the conversation today to help us understand how. In this episode, Dr. Fischer, a licensed clinical neuropsychologist specializing in assessment, diagnosis, and treatment planning, explains what family environment factors are and how they are taken into consideration when assessing a child with learning differences. Many of these factors actually change the way the brain develops, but because of the brain’s plasticity, it’s never too late to make a change if needed. 

 

Show Notes:

[2:32] - There’s a huge emphasis on the academic side of learning support, but family environment is also important.

[4:16] - With a comprehensive assessment, more than academic testing is looked at.

[5:27] - Family environment factors are not looked at in a way to place any kind of blame, but to understand the level of support possible for the child.

[6:55] - When it comes to traumatic brain injuries, family environment is a significant predictor of outcomes.

[8:56] - Certain factors stand out like caregiver/child relationships and caregiver strain.

[10:51] - These factors are impactful but are modifiable.

[14:03] - Parenting styles can buffer some of the issues that pop up. Research shows that nurturing and warm parenting styles predict better outcomes.

[15:56] - Family environments show differences in the trajectory of brain development.

[18:28] - With resource support, families can find access to the opportunities they need.

[19:16] - Family-focused intervention and family counseling has been proven to be effective.

[20:29] - What can we as a society do to promote strong family environments through support and policies that allow parents to provide what they want for their families?

[23:20] - Clinicians can promote positive family environments through clear communication, advocating for policy change, and providing resources.

[25:10] - The plasticity of the developing brain lasts into a person’s 20s. We have multiple opportunities throughout development to intervene.

[26:51] - Your body, including your brain, is one big system and all of these factors are connected.

[29:08] - It’s worth the struggle to get at these factors and find ways to optimize sleep, physical activity, and nutrition.

[32:24] - If resources are a barrier, there are avenues in the community that can help.

[33:47] - Reach out to a professional if you need additional support and guidance.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Jesse Fischer is a licensed clinical neuropsychologist who specializes in assessment of children, adolescents, and young adults who think and learn differently. His clinical expertise includes assessment, diagnosis, academic and treatment planning for individuals with neurodevelopmental concerns (e.g., Dyslexia, AD/HD), traumatic brain injury/concussion, epilepsy, emotional difficulties, and other complex medical conditions. Dr. Fischer sees children and families in Los Angeles, where he was born and raised. Dr. Fischer's most recent research has focused on the role of the family environment and early childhood stress (e.g., trauma, brain injury) on brain development, neural correlates of neuropsychological problems following TBI, as well as interventions to enhance recovery from sports concussion and more severe TBI.

 

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06 Aug 2024Ep. 197: Five Best Practices for Math Instruction - Dr. Sarah Powell00:41:02

Welcome back, listeners, to Diverse Thinking Different Learning! In this episode, we’re having a conversation with Dr. Sarah Powell, a distinguished professor at the University of Texas at Austin and Associate Director of the Meadows Center for Preventing Educational Risk. Dr. Powell’s expertise in math education sheds light on effective strategies to support students who face challenges with math!

The discussion explores the crucial role early math education plays in shaping a student's future academic success, emphasizing that early struggles can lead to long-term difficulties if not addressed properly. Dr. Powell elaborates on how cumulative math skills impact later learning, stressing the importance of early intervention and continuous support throughout a student’s educational journey.

Dr. Powell also highlights several best practices for math instruction, including the use of multiple representations to deepen understanding and systematic, explicit teaching methods to ensure mastery of concepts. She also addresses the role of math vocabulary and its significance in helping students grasp mathematical ideas more effectively.

Tune in to gain valuable insights into how targeted interventions and effective teaching strategies can make a significant difference in students' math achievements. If you are an educator yourself seeking to enhance your math instruction or perhaps a parent looking to support your child's learning, this episode of the show is sure to offer practical advice and actionable strategies to help all students excel in math!

Show Notes:

[3:14] - Early math performance predicts future success, making early intervention important for long-term achievement.
[6:06] - Dr. Powell points out how schools often prioritize reading over math, but early math interventions are just as important.
[9:01] - Dr. Powell argues that teaching math vocabulary is essential for understanding concepts and participating effectively in the classroom.
[11:59] - Difficulties in math may be linked to language issues, including reading, writing, and speaking.
[13:04] - Using multiple representations, like manipulatives and drawings, can help students better understand math concepts.
[15:24] - Dr. Powel feels that students should understand math deeply by using various representations, not just by memorizing symbols.
[18:55] - Identifying common mistakes better helps target instruction than addressing isolated mistakes.
[20:02] - Dr. Powell argues that effective math learning involves modeling, repeated practice, and building fluency through both speed and accuracy.
[23:53] - Incorporating short fluency practices into the school day enhances math skills and helps reduce cognitive overload.
[25:34] - Older students should develop fluency to avoid using basic strategies like tick marks, which can lead to mistakes.
[26:55] - Effective strategies for solving word problems include the U.P.S. check method and recognizing common problem types.
[31:16] - Dr. Powell explains how parents can help with word problems by discussing the problem and identifying consistent frameworks.
[32:43] - Parents can also support math learning through discussions, games, and incorporating math into daily activities.
[35:25] - Engaging in practical math activities, like measuring ingredients, makes math fun and relevant!
[38:57] - For additional support, resources include emailing Dr. Powell as well as videos on representations, a free math course, and teacher-friendly materials!

About Our Guest:

Dr. Sarah R. Powell is a Professor in the College of Education at The University of Texas at Austin and Associate Director of the Meadows Center for Preventing Educational Risk. Her research, teaching, and service focus on mathematics, particularly for students who experience mathematics differently.

Dr. Powell is currently Principal Investigator (PI) of an Institute of Education Sciences (IES) efficacy grant (RAAMPS) related to word-problem solving at Grade 4. Dr. Powell is also PI of SPIRAL, an IES grant which works collaboratively with Grade 4 and 5 teachers who provide mathematics instruction to students with mathematics difficulty. Dr. Powell is Co-PI of STAIR 2.0 (funded by IES) in which the team works with middle school special education math teachers and SCALE (funded by the US Department of Education) in which the team is replicating a fraction intervention in Grades 4-8. Dr. Powell collaborates on Math Words, an IES development grant about mathematics vocabulary. She also assists with a word-problem project funded as a Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) grant to Querium. To help create the next generation of researchers focused on mathematics, Dr. Powell is PI of a doctoral leadership grant (LIME) funded by Office of Special Education Programs. Dr. Powell was awarded the Presidential Early Career Award for Scientists and Engineers (PECASE) in 2019.

Dr. Powell understands all of these efforts are a team effort, and she thanks her project leads, graduate students, research assistants, and research collaborators as well as the teachers and students who participate in these projects.

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01 Nov 2022Ep. 105: Medication Helps But is Not a Magic Potion for ADHD with Syed Naqvi, MD00:42:34

If your child has been diagnosed with ADHD, you might be considering your treatment options. The American Academy of Pediatrics recommends that for children between the ages of 4 and 6, the first line of treatment should include parent training in behavior management and behavioral classroom interventions. Medication should be used if those interventions do not result in significant improvement or if the child continues to have serious problems. For children and adolescents between the ages of 6 and 18, recommended treatment is FDA approved medications along with parent training in behavior management and classroom interventions. Medication works alongside behavior management.

We get questions frequently about medication and they need to be answered by a pediatric expert. That’s why I have asked Dr. Syed Naqvi to join the podcast for this conversation on medication as a treatment for ADHD.

In this episode, you’ll learn how medication can benefit a child with ADHD, but also the steps to take before it is ever considered.  

 

Show Notes:

[2:46] - Over the years, Dr. Wilson has received numerous questions about medication.

[3:33] - Medication consultations are necessary to determine if it’s appropriate.

[4:26] - Not every case of ADHD needs medication as treatment.

[5:50] - For medication to be used, ADHD must interfere with daily life.

[7:01] - Be mindful that ADHD might not be the sole factor in disruptive behavior.

[8:55] - Dr. Naqvi is adamant about using standard scales.

[10:10] - Sometimes, Dr. Naqvi can be doing an ADHD assessment and notice other learning disabilities.

[11:33] - Interventions will vary depending on the age of the child and there are a lot of factors that impact them.

[13:14] - Interventions need to be revisited every 6-12 months.

[15:29] - The root cause is the most important piece to find and that’s challenging in a child as they are growing and changing.

[17:23] - All medications have side effects and they need to be considered. If the risks outweigh the benefits, that is not the route to take.

[18:49] - The benefits of medication will be different per child.

[20:50] - Setting boundaries and rules to help manage behavior is necessary in addition to medication.

[23:07] - Dr. Naqvi and Dr. Wilson discuss work by Russell Barkley.

[24:01] - Interventions need to take place before medication is introduced.

[25:19] - Some parents are disappointed when medication isn’t immediately prescribed, but Dr. Naqvi shares that it is not a magic potion.

[27:05] - Dr. Naqvi shares the differences between some common medications prescribed for ADHD.

[30:16] - FDA guidelines must be considered.

[31:36] - Dr. Naqvi educates parents on other types of supplements that could benefit children with ADHD before resorting to medication.

[33:12] - Let children have their joy but be aware of things like treats and how they impact their behavior.

[35:26] - Be aware of myths that surround ADHD and ADHD medication.

[36:43] - Genetics also plays a role in side effects.

[37:53] - ADHD is a genetic disorder, which may impact the parent in remembering to give the child medication appropriately.

[40:39] - If you have questions for Dr. Naqvi, email is the best way to reach him.

 

About Our Guest:

Syed Naqvi MD is Board certified and recertified, in both adult and child & Adolescent psychiatry. He provides state-of-the-art psychopharmacological treatment to children with autism, intellectual disabilities with psychiatric issues, Autism Spectrum Disorder, bipolar disorder, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, and Tourette's disorder. He has been the recipient of numerous awards. Dr. Naqvi is a Clinical Associate Professor of Psychiatry in UCLA. He also devotes his professional time as Director of Psychiatric services at Wayfinder family services in Los Angeles and in his private practice in Beverly Hills and Calabasas.  

 

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  • Email: naqvihealer@gmail.com

 

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27 Dec 2022Ep. 113: Demystifying the Assessment Process00:32:36

I feel very strongly that if we put in place certain practices, more children with undetected learning disabilities would be identified early and receive appropriate treatment. There’s a lot of education that needs to be done about the different learning challenges that students face. And that’s why I started this podcast.

In this re-aired episode of the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast, I discuss the first step in uncovering why a child is struggling - assessment. Why does a child need an assessment? What does an assessment involve? What does an evaluation tell parents and educators? Let’s dive into what an assessment looks like and why it is more than just testing.

 

Show Notes:

[1:29] - The reasons you seek an assessment will vary per child, but you see their difficulties are hindering their success.

[2:38] - It is never too late to evaluate a child when you see that they are struggling and need some support. An assessment helps you get to the root of the difficulties.

[3:35] - Some struggles can be overcome by implementing appropriate intervention.

[4:12] - The assessment is so much more than testing.

[6:13] - A child’s early developmental milestones will also be discussed to find if the challenges the child is having now may have been observed early on as well.

[7:23] - Dr. Wilson also explains that the assessment involves gathering information from other sources, especially from teachers.

[8:38] - Observations will begin when they first enter the office.

[10:04] - An assessment should also involve the child’s perspective. It's not only about getting information from parents and teachers.

[12:01] - There are several domains that are being assessed during the testing session. Domains may vary depending on the test, but Dr. Wilson breaks down the domains you will find in a comprehensive evaluation designed for determining the root of the problem.

[12:27] - One such domain is Intellectual Functioning. This typically asks the child to complete tasks that they have never been asked to complete before.

[14:09] - Another domain that is typically assessed is Academic Achievement in the areas of Reading, Writing, and Math.

[15:35] - When assessing academics, Dr. Wilson explains that some tasks will be timed and others will be untimed which helps determine an appropriate intervention or accommodation.

[16:21] - Another domain that’s assessed is Attention and Concentration which can greatly interfere with learning processes.

[17:15] - Can the child pull information from memory? Does the child have a stronger visual memory than verbal memory?

[18:39] - Another process that is looked at is Executive Functioning which is an umbrella term that includes organization, planning, and an individual’s ability to work towards a goal.

[19:19] - Language Functioning includes expressive language and receptive language. How do they express themselves? How do they understand others?

[20:14] - The evaluation also looks at Visual Spatial and Visual Motor Functioning which helps us understand how the child perceives information that he or she sees. 

[21:23] - Something important to keep in mind is that children and adolescents are social beings. They will often have an emotional response to their struggles.

[23:15] - In parent and teacher questionnaires, there will be questions about stomachaches and headaches to determine if there is a pattern.

[23:50] - Behaviors such as defiance or breaking rules are also looked at as these could co-exist with the learning difficulty or a way for the child to cover up the struggle.

[24:45] - Media use will be asked about which could be affecting sleep, attention, and has a connection with depression.

[26:46] - Exercise is also looked at as it can enhance mental health and brain growth. Is there a connection between the child’s amount of exercise and their challenges?

[27:18] - Once all of this information is gathered, Dr. Wilson can use it to determine if there is a disorder, what the disorder is, and can then develop an appropriate intervention.

[28:51] - The information from this assessment also helps a parent or educator be more patient and gives them guidance on how to help them.

[30:23] - An assessment is only the first step. It determines the reason for the struggle and once we have that information and gives us a roadmap to help the child to overcome their struggles so that they can thrive.

 

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08 Nov 2022Ep. 106: Childhood Anxiety and ADHD with Dr. Norrine Russell00:38:57

Did you know that between 25 and 33 percent of children with ADHD have a coexisting anxiety disorder? In fact, childhood anxiety is the second most common condition co-occurring with ADHD. So how can we help children who struggle with both? We’ve had several conversations about ADHD and anxiety separately, but now let’s dive into the topic of comorbidity with today’s guest Dr. Norrine Russell.

Dr. Russell comes to us with over 20 years of experience creating positive youth development and parenting education programs. She has extensive knowledge of child development, learning profiles, special needs, and positive parenting philosophies. She blends this knowledge to provide students and parents with comprehensive support and the tools they need to grow and thrive. I am thrilled to have her join this conversation today.

In this episode, Dr. Russell describes what it might look like for a child or an adolescent to struggle with both ADHD and anxiety and what that means for parents and caregivers.

 

Show Notes:

[2:26] - The “honeymoon period” after starting the new school year is over.

[4:11] - Comorbidity is when you have two or more disorders.

[5:16] - Since the pandemic, there are more children experiencing anxiety, children experiencing higher anxiety, and more parents with anxiety.

[6:37] - Support for anxiety often includes family support.

[7:44] - There has been a cultural shift in parenting that has created increased anxiety.

[9:10] - Sometimes the trigger for an anxious parent is another parent’s experience.

[10:43] - Anxiety hijacks the brain.

[12:02] - The process of calming down and being inside the thinking part of their brain can take a long time for a student with anxiety.

[13:51] - It’s common for adolescents with anxiety to stuff their anxiety down, but there will be a trigger that allows it to come back up.

[15:02] - It’s important to consider the question of comorbidity. This impacts the approach to helping students with either ADHD, anxiety or both.

[16:28] - Very few have just ADHD.

[18:15] - Multimodal therapy is the most impactful.

[19:56] - Medication isn’t a magic potion but alongside coaching can be helpful. A combined approach is what’s best.

[21:30] - When medication is needed and there’s a delay in accessing it, there can be a contribution to anxiety.

[23:54] - A common concern about medication is addiction.

[25:18] - There is a lot of misinformation out there for parents when making decisions about treatment for their children.

[26:36] - Collaboration between therapists and other adults working with students is very valuable.

[28:31] - For younger children, it is harder for them to understand their feelings. Older children will be able to identify when they feel anxious.

[30:01] - Sometimes teacher comments are taken as mandates to take action when in reality it is just information.

[31:18] - It is not your fault. You do not need to feel ashamed. But, you are responsible for finding out what to do.

[32:30] - People in a child’s support team all have a different role.

[33:40] - Be clear on what support schools can provide.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Norrine Russell is the founder of Russell Coaching for Students, which uses an innovative method of coaching for complex students, including those who are 2E; have ADHD, Autism, or Anxiety; and those with learning differences. This innovative method, Connected Coaching, has proven successful for hundreds of students since 2009. She is the author of the recently published guide for parents, “Asking the Right Questions Before, During, and After Your Child’s ADHD Diagnosis.”

 

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07 Jan 2025Ep. 219: Understanding Dysgraphia: Signs, Strategies, and Support for Struggling Writers with Natasha Gray00:33:21

This week, we discuss the complexities of dysgraphia, a neurodevelopmental disorder that can greatly affect written expression.  We are joined by Natasha Gray, founder of Spark Learning in the Caribbean. We unpack dysgraphia and what it is and highlight its varied types and how it often overlaps with other challenges such as ADHD and dyslexia.

Natasha explains the different ways that dysgraphia can manifest and discusses some of the warning signs such as illegible handwriting, avoidance of writing tasks, and challenges with spelling and spacing. Natasha also shares her insights into the neurological and motor components behind these struggles, and she highlights why it's important to understand each child’s individual needs.

Our conversation offers strategies and advice for parents and educators to support children with dysgraphia, with Natasha discussing the role of occupational therapy in developing fine motor skills and classroom accommodations such as typing out assignments and providing extra time for written tasks. We tackle common challenges, such as how to address fatigue and pain caused by writing, and Natasha offers some ways to build on patience and understanding in educational environments.

If you’re a parent, teacher, or someone eager to learn about supporting neurodivergent children, this episode is filled with expert advice, actionable strategies, and a compassionate approach to navigating dysgraphia!

Show Notes:

[2:59] - Dysgraphia varies widely and affects writing speed, expression, and presentation differently in each child.
[4:44] - Natasha addresses dyslexic dysgraphia which impacts spelling, handwriting, and articulation despite strong verbal skills.
[7:11] - Lexical dysgraphia in older children and adults stems from weak mental visualization of words.
[8:43] - Writing difficulties in dysgraphia include poor spacing and dexterity, requiring customized accommodations.
[11:46] - Dysgraphia often co-occurs with dyslexia, sharing sound-symbol association and written expression challenges.
[12:58] - Natasha explains how children with dysgraphia often avoid writing and require patience, support, and therapy from teachers and parents.
[15:30] - Natasha highlights the importance of improving children's fine motor skills in order to improve their handwriting.
[17:05] - Natasha uses techniques such as practicing letter formation, strengthening exercises, and spacing tools to improve writing skills.
[19:46] - Older children and adults can benefit from functional handwriting tasks, multisensory techniques, and assistive technology.
[22:17] - ​​Assistive tools and accommodations can help individuals demonstrate knowledge despite writing challenges.
[24:53] - Natasha asserts that writing simple notes or emails helps adults improve skills, confidence, and vocabulary.
[26:38] - Practicing low-pressure writing builds important skills for students and supports struggling adults in workplaces.
[29:05] - Natasha stresses the need for teachers to have empathy and to intervene with custom solutions.

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03 May 2022Ep. 79: How to Develop Social Thinking Skills with Michelle Garcia Winner, MA, CCC-SLP00:30:34

In this brand new episode, guest Michelle Garcia Winner joins me as we discuss social thinking skills. If you have ever heard of the Zones of Regulation, Think Social, or Thinking About You Thinking About Me, you’ve got Michelle Garcia Winner to thank. Her work is recognized globally and she joins the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast today in her mission to share the importance of social learning.

Social Thinking is the ability to consider your own and others’ thoughts, emotions, beliefs, intentions, and knowledge to help interpret and respond to the information in your mind and possibly through your social behavioral interactions. During the last two years, we have experienced never-before-seen changes in how we interact with others due to the pandemic. We know that socially, many children experienced social loss in addition to academic loss. But now what? How can we integrate evidence-based strategies to help children improve their social competencies? 

You don’t want to miss this conversation. Listen to the brilliant Michelle Garcia Winner demonstrate the importance of social thinking skills and what we can do as parents and educators.

 

Show Notes:

[2:20] - Because of the pandemic, many children have experienced social loss in addition to academic loss.

[3:11] - Kids don’t only learn academics in schools, they learn how to be a part of a community.

[4:01] - We tend to think that kids have a lot of these social skills when they start school.

[5:02] - Social vocabulary is a component of the Social Thinking program.

[6:31] - Michelle demonstrates a way to show kids to “think with their eyes.”

[7:56] - Social expectations and social rules are constantly changing and we have to be flexible.

[9:23] - Problems are not all the same size and most young children react to all problems as if they are the same size.

[10:40] - There are so many hidden social rules in different situations.

[12:07] - We need to teach why we do things in certain situations.

[13:54] - Social thinking impacts more than just social interactions, but also academics.

[14:57] - In many cases, we don’t tell kids what we expect or why.

[16:03] - Imagination also plays a key role.

[18:34] - Isn’t it amazing what your brain is already doing? Kids did remarkably well imagining that they were still in a classroom when shifting to distance learning.

[20:27] - When we empower kids to describe what they want from others, they have better tools to reflect on their own behavior.

[21:56] - We have to give ourselves grace that these skills are not always taught well. Each of us cannot do this full throttle all of the time.

[24:02] - There is a difference in how we communicate and thrive socially, virtually and in-person, especially in young children.

[25:59] - Because of the extended amount of time on screens, kids did not experience social learning.

[26:56] - It is never too late to start Social Thinking.

[28:03] - This learning is preparing children to live independently and is important to integrate into all learning.

 

About Our Guest:

Michelle Garcia Winner, MA, CCC-SLP, is the founder of Social Thinking and a globally recognized thought leader, author, speaker, and social-cognitive therapist. She is dedicated to helping people of all ages develop social-emotional learning, including those with social learning differences. Across her 35+ year career she has created numerous evidence-based strategies, treatment frameworks, and curricula to help interventionists foster social competencies in those they support. Michelle's work also teaches how these competencies impact a person's broader life, including their ability to maintain relationships and their success in school and career.

 

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12 Dec 2023Ep. 163: Raising Children with Mental Health Challenges with Jan Stewart00:37:10

In her raw and emotional book Hold On Tight: A Parent’s Journey Raising Children with Mental Illness, Jan Stewart shares her deeply personal experience as a mother of two children with wildly different needs. Through the challenges of finding the right diagnoses and treatments, Jan learned to insist on an integrated partnership approach, leading her to then support other parents facing similar struggles.

She joins the podcast today to talk about this rollercoaster journey for her as a parent and how the experience led her to work in mental health governance. Her insight is profound because she has certainly walked in the shoes of an overwhelmed mother. Listen in to learn more about her journey and her advice for navigating the ups and downs of yours.

 

Show Notes:

[2:16] - Jan wrote the book to help people understand the pain and struggle in this journey and how to navigate through it.

[3:38] - First-time parents worry, but in Jan’s case, it took her years to learn to trust her gut. She knew something was going on.

[6:11] - Jan’s son and daughter showed completely different concerns.

[7:34] - Her children were so deep in distress; when doctors finally listened, Jan was able to seek the help they needed.

[9:27] - The “wait-and-see” approach puts things off for so long until a child is in crisis.

[11:01] - Jan doesn’t only provide support for parents, but also provides education.

[13:52] - You have to take a breather from time to time when diving into education. But you also need to stay current.

[14:28] - Take a collaborative approach with every single person that is a part of your child’s life.

[15:37] - If a doctor, therapist, or any other individual working with her child is not fully cooperative, Jan goes elsewhere.

[18:19] - The experience can feel like a rollercoaster, with a lot of ups and downs.

[19:08] - Be completely open and truly listen to your children.

[20:26] - Don’t hide information from your children, especially when it comes to taking medication.

[22:42] - Other family members may not understand or support you and your child. They may be misinformed and you can limit the amount of engagement you have with them.

[24:34] - The right friends will know how to ask when you need support and how they can help.

[26:58] - As a society, we have a responsibility to spread facts.

[29:06] - The process for parents can be very overwhelming.

[31:23] - Mental illness has such a negative connotation and even villains in movies and media are portrayed with mental illness.

[33:15] - Toxic positivity is also a problem on social media.

[36:21] - Find Jan’s book online and in some bookstore locations. 

 

About Our Guest:

Jan Stewart is a highly regarded mental health governance expert and advocate.  Growing up in New York and moving to Toronto after marrying a Canadian, she was untouched by major adversity throughout her youth and imagined a similar, happy life for her children. In her raw and emotional book Hold on Tight: A Parent’s Journey Raising Children with Mental Illness, she candidly describes the shock she and her husband faced when each of their two young children started exhibiting troubling behaviors.

 

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21 Dec 2021Ep. 60: A Multisensory Intervention for Kids Who Struggle with Math with Adrianne Meldrum00:33:59

Following the previous episode’s topic of math disorders, we’re continuing the math conversation with Adrianne Meldrum. Now that we know how math disorders can impact a student, we can better take a look at what successful interventions look like and Adrianne is perfect for this task.

Adrianne is the CEO of Made for Math, an all-online multisensory math intervention service. Their website describes it as clutter-free, compassionate, radiant, and research-based; services are aimed at helping neurodiverse students thrive in math. 

Math difficulty often gets overlooked or intentionally pushed aside. But struggles in this subject area are just as important as any other subject. With Adrianne’s help, we learn today that math is truly a language and it’s often only spoken at school. What can we do as parents, caregivers, and educators to reduce anxiety, increase access to math through different modalities, and provide opportunities for all students to succeed?

 

Show Notes:

[1:54] - Adrianne shares an observation she has made in recent months of parents learning new terminology and seeing the struggles their children are having.

[4:10] - It’s common to attribute math difficulty with just not being “good at math.”

[4:56] - Math is a language that is really only taught at school. We don’t talk about math in conversations as a society.

[5:40] - Made for Math uses a multisensory intervention and Adrianne describes the approach.

[7:04] - The multisensory approach increases multi-access points to the curriculum using different modalities.

[8:34] - When students see themselves as being able to be successful at something, it increases their motivation to work hard.

[9:33] - At Made for Math, teachers are trained in how the brain works.

[10:43] - Students can retain the information taught in this way, but are not always retaining the content taught in school.

[12:10] - Math is not something that has to be endured, but rather something that can be used.

[13:46] - Regarding word problems, Adrianne and her team use research to create a new framework for students to recognize patterns.

[15:30] - Oftentimes, students with a language based learning challenge like dyslexia, struggle with math as well.

[17:52] - All interventions take time, but once students experience learning in a way that’s wired for them, they become curious about other things.

[19:14] - Adrianne shares some things you can do at home including clearing negative emotions.

[20:35] - When anxiety is so overwhelming, Adrianne gives a hack that helps reset emotions.

[22:06] - Create a clutter free space which could also mean to put one problem at a time on the paper.

[25:04] - When processing speed is fast, but hands cannot keep up, parents can be a “scribe.”

[26:11] - If you have the means, seek help and support for your child in math.

[27:13] - Let’s Go Learn has online assessments that may help determine some gaps in learning.

[29:36] - If you have to pick a skill that a child is struggling with, choose reading because reading skills are needed to succeed in math. Focusing on both initially may be overwhelming.

[31:38] - When a child is overwhelmed and emotionally dysregulated, learning just isn’t going to happen.

 

About Our Guest:

Adrianne Meldrum is the CEO of Made for Math, an all-online multisensory math intervention service aimed at helping neurodiverse students thrive in their pursuit of mathematics.

Currently, she’s enrolled as a Master’s Student at Bridges Graduate School of Cognitive Diversity. She lives in Mesa, AZ with her husband and three boys. You’ll find Adrianne spending her down time walking, listening to podcasts, and daydreaming about her future home library.

 

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25 Feb 2025Ep. 226: Is It Autism? Recognizing, Assessing & Supporting Children and Teens with Dr. Chandni Singh00:41:55

This week on the podcast, we are happy to have Dr. Chandni Singh on the show. Dr. Singh is a licensed clinical psychologist with more than a decade of experience in diagnosing Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) and other neurodevelopmental conditions in children, adolescents, and young adults. She is committed to providing evidence-based assessments and tailored treatment recommendations, and she strongly focuses on serving culturally and ethnically diverse communities. At West LA Neuropsychology, PC, she specializes in early diagnostic evaluations for young children and comprehensive assessments for school-aged children with neurodevelopmental challenges and co-existing mood disorders.

While assessments can feel overwhelming for parents and educators who suspect that a child might be autistic, Dr. Chandni Singh breaks down the assessment process, from recognizing early signs to understanding why some children are diagnosed later than others. She explains how social and emotional challenges often become more noticeable as kids get older and why autistic traits can be mistaken for anxiety, ADHD, or other conditions.

Dr. Singh also sheds some light on the gold standard tools used in evaluations, including the ADOS (Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule), which creates structured social scenarios to observe how a child interacts. We discuss the importance of gathering input from multiple sources such as parents, teachers, and the children themselves to get a full picture of their strengths and challenges.

This episode of the podcast also explores the lived experiences of autistic children and teens, with Dr. Singh highlighting the role of masking, where kids adjust their behavior to fit in but often experience exhaustion and distress as a result. She also discusses the impact of cultural background on both receiving and understanding an autism diagnosis.

 
Show Notes:

[3:04] - Dr. Singh explains how autism diagnoses are often delayed because early strengths can mask challenges.
[5:03] - Social difficulties in children can stem from autism, ADHD, anxiety, or overlapping conditions.
[8:50] - Autistic teens often withdraw socially, reinforcing isolation, low mood, and struggles in school.
[10:45] - Parents often seek autism assessments after noticing persistent behavioral, emotional, or communication challenges.
[13:44] - Dr. Singh points out how increased school refusal often signals deeper emotional or social struggles.
[16:13] - Dr. Singh discusses and explains the ADOS (Autism Diagnostic Observation Schedule).
[19:57] - One-on-one evaluations can provide important insights into a child's social world and emotional experiences.
[22:35] - Comprehensive autism assessments include IQ tests, behavioral observations, and parent-teacher scales.
[25:05] - Cultural background, values, and parenting styles shape families' understanding of autism.
[27:01] - Dr. Singh discusses how families and schools increasingly embrace neurodivergence, reducing stigma.
[30:43] - Many parents seek guidance on supporting their child's development rather than just seeking a diagnosis.
[31:34] - Providing support includes therapy, and school and community recommendations customized to individual needs.
[34:12] - Autism support tends to focus on therapeutic tools, school accommodations, and social skills.
[38:24] - Autism assessments can strengthen parent-child relationships by leading to understanding.


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12 Oct 2021Ep. 51: How Parents and Educators Can Collaborate to Help Students Thrive with Shelley Lawrence00:33:48

For many families, it is hard to hear that your child has been struggling in school. Some parents may already know or have a feeling their child is struggling.  They have even received assessment results, only to feel worried about the negative stigma or sharing that information with their school. Today’s discussion is all about the importance of collaboration between parents, families, and educators.

 

Today’s guest is Shelley Lawrence and she comes to us with two decades worth of experience as a school administrator. In this episode, her experience shines and she shares her knowledge of how evaluations are used in schools, what to expect after an evaluation is completed, and she really drives home the need for developing a team. Feeling worried is absolutely a normal reaction, but communicating the needs of your child to schools and educators can make a world of difference in their educational progress.

 

Show Notes:

[2:03] - Dr. Wilson shares how the parent/educator relationship is so important and why Shelley was her first choice to discuss the topic.

[4:36] - It’s not about a diagnosis. The purpose is to better understand why a child is struggling.

[6:24] - Shelley shares a story of a student she worked with and demonstrates how the teachers’ knowledge of weaknesses helped him.

[7:56] - Phrasing this information in a certain way can bolster student confidence. 

[8:45] - Strengths and weaknesses are harder to determine in some students.

[9:56] - As an administrator, Shelley has found that many parents are worried about the negative stigma of having an IEP or 504 plan.

[11:40] - When an evaluation is recommended, Shelley explains that many parents are worried about going through with it. She shares how she describes it to parents.

[13:31] - It is normal to feel worried, but educators can rephrase the need for an evaluation.

[14:47] - Every family Dr. Wilson and Shelley have worked with do not regret the assessment process and getting their child the support they need.

[16:08] - Shelley describes her current position and role in education.

[17:29] - After completing an evaluation, it is important to break it down based on priorities.

[18:51] - Everyone needs to be working together, including the parents and teachers.

[20:43] - Some parents are also concerned about making more work for teachers, but teachers want and need to know how to help their students.

[22:20] - What should parents expect from the school after an evaluation?

[23:40] - These meetings are important to getting everyone on the same page. From the educator’s point of view, it is so helpful and fulfilling.

[25:01] - Look beyond the IEP goals. Parent and teacher observation are markers of progress as well.

[27:50] - Sometimes progress is very slow. Different interventions can be implemented.

[29:20] - The point is to make sure the child is learning rather than spinning their wheels.

[30:43] - Attention struggles impact academics drastically.

[32:20] - Emphasizing that it is a team that helps the child can make things more impactful for parents and educators.

 

About Our Guest:

As an Independent School administrator for two decades, Shelley Lawrence had the unique experience of working with families of students who were striving to succeed in school. She is adamant in her belief that, with the proper supports in place, all children can succeed in school. Shelley brings her passion for children, her strong connections with outside providers in the community, her keen observation and listening skills and her understanding of the complexities of learning, to help families navigate the school journey with their child. In addition, Shelley is a trained advocate who can help families navigate the IEP process.

 

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19 Dec 2023Ep. 164: 5 Keys to Productive IEPs with April Rehrig00:37:28

The IEP process is notoriously daunting, overwhelming, and can be confusing to parents. However, parents have the right to be active participants in all aspects of an IEP. There’s more that parents can do to be a part of their child’s education and successfully advocate for the support they need in the classroom.

Today’s guest is April Rehrig, the founder of Rise Educational Advocacy and Consulting. April has a unique approach to special education reform that promotes team collaboration and communication to ensure every child feels valued. Through Rise Educational Advocacy, she guides families through the IEP process and helps bridge the gap between schools and parents.

This episode is all about the 5 keys to productive IEPs and how to build a relationship with the team of people supporting a child.

 

Show Notes:

[2:09] - April has been working with neurodiverse students since she was a teenager. She shares her background and what drives her passion.

[4:45] - An experience in her early years of teaching opened her eyes to presumed competency.

[5:32] - After 20 years as a school psychologist, April now bridges the gap between schools and parents.

[6:54] - Parents just want their kids to get the support they need, but it is daunting to get started. Most parents don’t know what to expect.

[8:41] - Just like building a house, you must have a solid foundation. 

[11:02] - If schools and psychologists communicate with parents from the very beginning, it saves time and makes things easier for families.

[12:32] - Parents have the opportunity to write a parent report to share during the IEP meeting.

[14:41] - Psychologists and teachers are trained to look for what the deficits are. But reports are a snapshot. Really good evaluations are based on multiple measures.

[16:44] - What is a child’s inferential learning? Standardized test scores do not provide this information.

[19:23] - Comprehensive evaluations drive the IEP.

[21:00] - Parents have the right to participate in all aspects of the IEP process.

[25:24] - There’s a misnomer called predetermination. April has a different opinion on giving reports before a meeting.

[28:09] - Each state and district has a different approach to the IEP process. But something that is universal, the parent input section is often only three lines long.

[30:27] - When we take sides, we lose the importance of talking about the child as a team.

[32:57] - Parents can get stuck on advocating for a particular service, but should look at weaknesses and the outcomes they want.

 

About Our Guest:

April Rehrig is the founder of Rise Educational Advocacy and Consulting, LLC. She has over 20 years of experience as a school psychologist, teacher, and parent in the public school setting. With her Build a Better IEP™️curriculum, April teaches parents and teachers nationwide how to successfully navigate special education from a strength-based perspective. Her unique approach to special education reform promotes team collaboration and communication. April holds a master’s degree in education and is a Board Certified Education Advocate (BCEA) Fellow. She completed the prestigious Council of Parent Attorneys and Advocates (COPAA) SEAT™ 2.0 & 3.0 program, is a Licensed Educational Psychologist (LEP), Certified Autism Spectrum Disorder Clinical Specialist (ASDCS), Master IEP Coach©, and credentialed teacher.

 

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24 Jan 2023Ep. 117: How Surf Therapy Helps Neurodivergent Kids with Naomi Matanick, OTR/L00:28:17

As we continue our conversation about different treatment and therapy options, you may discover unique options that are a right fit for your child. Today’s topic is certainly unique! We’re diving into surf therapy.

Surf therapy is one mode of therapy among many that helps neurodiverse kids with many different skills. You may not have heard about this therapeutic tool that uses the elements of the ocean, a surfboard, and sand, but it targets sensory processing, physical and emotional regulation, motor planning, coordination, and mental health.

To help us learn more about surf therapy is guest Naomi Matanick who has become passionate about helping neurodiverse children and adolescents through the properties of the ocean. She explains what surf therapy is, how different skills are targeted and impacted, and the types of kids that would benefit from it.

 

Show Notes:

[2:50] - Surf therapy is one therapeutic tool among many. There are many properties in the ocean that impact our bodies.

[4:13] - This mode of therapy is particularly beneficial for children with sensory processing difficulties.

[4:50] - The movement of the ocean brings on a sense of body awareness and activates different body systems.

[6:27] - Surf therapy helps with emotional regulation, but going into the water can initially be scary.

[8:03] - Naomi lists some of the skills integrated into surf therapy, including balance, visual development, and core strength.

[9:54] - Surf therapy also affects executive functioning skills as well as higher level cognitive functions like safety and planning.

[11:24] - Surf therapy can help so many kids, but particularly those who struggle with self-regulation and sensory integration.

[13:43] - The end goal is not to become a surfer. It’s to have the child engage in something that is fun and playful.

[14:40] - Age 6 and up into early adolescence is a great time to start this kind of therapy but it is really based upon each individual child’s needs.

[16:45] - There is an increasing rate of mental health issues among adolescents but research shows the benefit of physical activity on mental health, including surfing.

[19:31] - Naomi shares her experience in how neurodiverse children overcome specific challenges with surf therapy.

[21:48] - Currently, Naomi works with children one-on-one, but would like to expand to group therapy.

[23:16] - Surfing is a very individualized sport rather than a competitive one.

[24:23] - Naomi’s hope is that through this mode of therapy children gain self-confidence and self-trust.

 

About Our Guest:

Naomi Matanick is a pediatric occupational therapist specializing in sensory integration therapy, surf therapy, and childhood and infant development. Kids are amazing and dynamic individuals. Yet, they have a lot to conquer. In her years of experience, she has served infants to early adolescents in a variety of areas including: sensory processing, physical and emotional regulation, organization of behavior and attention, acquisition of vital motor milestones, motor coordination development, and oral-motor therapy for feeding. Naomi’s mission is for each caregiver and child to feel understood and empowered as they are equipped with life-long tools. Her passion is to see children feel joy as they playfully develop a strong identity and sense of self through the skills and knowledge they have obtained.

 

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22 Nov 2022Ep. 108: 5 Things to Do After Your Child Gets a Diagnoses with Sari Goodman and Shelley Lawrence00:33:28

When your child receives a diagnosis, it can be overwhelming. Even when a report is thorough and clear on what the next steps are, it can be frightening and a lot to process. This is something we hear all the time from parents, “What do I do next?”

Guests Sari Goodman and Shelley Lawrence are here to answer that question. There really are many things you can and should do, but today we’ve narrowed it down to the top 5 things you need to do right away after your child receives a diagnosis. Sari and Shelley walk you through what to do and why each step is important.

When parents have greater knowledge about their child’s struggles, it can lead to an increase in understanding and an improvement in adherence and response to treatment. We want to reduce parenting stress, increase understanding of your child’s strengths and weaknesses, and give parents the tools they need to adequately support their child.

 

Show Notes:

[2:27] - Oftentimes parents aren’t sure what to do with the information they receive after their child gets a diagnosis.

[3:47] - First and foremost, read and learn what is written in the report.

[4:48] - Ask questions about the report to better understand.

[5:55] - Remember that your child has strengths in addition to the weaknesses identified in the report.

[7:28] - Find out who your “go-to” person is at your child’s school and have a meeting.

[8:29] - Always make sure that all the actions taken are in service to your child.

[10:45] - Parents can focus on areas of support that the school doesn’t give.

[12:01] - It is important to share report information with schools.

[13:44] - The report will be enlightening and may serve as a form of relief.

[14:53] - Kids know when they are struggling. 

[16:07] - The more parents understand what is in the report, the more they can help their children with understanding themselves.

[17:18] - Show kids their progress!

[18:32] - This report and diagnosis does not change who your child is.

[19:20] - There are people whose job it is to help you understand and implement this report.

[22:39] - Sharing evaluation results with the child is incredibly important and a relief to them as well.

[24:40] - You don’t have to be an expert in education, but you can be an expert in your child.

[26:01] - Sometimes, support could be a change in parenting style.

[27:14] - A child can use their strengths to compensate for areas of weakness.

[28:55] - Social support is important for parents.

[30:32] - When you’re equipped with the knowledge, you can better advocate for and support your child.

 

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Shelley Lawrence

As an Independent School administrator for 2 decades, Shelley had the unique experience of working with families of students who were striving to succeed in school. She is adamant in her belief that, with the proper support in place, all children can succeed in school. Shelley brings her passion for children, her strong connections with outside providers in the community, her keen observation and listening skills and her understanding of the complexities of learning, to help families navigate the school journey with their child. In addition, Shelley is a trained advocate who can help families navigate the IEP process.

 

Sari Goodman

Sari Goodman is a Certified Parent Educator and Trainer who is an avid cheerleader for the most significant people in a child’s life - the parents.  She supports parents and guardians by developing a comprehensive understanding of family dynamics to create a customized action plan that reduces chaos and brings calm.  She has been an educator of students, teachers, and parents for over 30 years.

 

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10 Nov 2020Ep. 1: Uncovering Why a Child is Struggling00:32:08

Millions of kids struggle with learning, processing, and social difficulties. These challenges interfere with their ability to reach their full potential. My name is Dr. Karen Wilson and I am on a mission to make sure that when kids are struggling, we find out why and we give them the support they need to thrive.

 

Welcome to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. This podcast is a resource for parents and educators working with children with learning difficulties. It is my hope that after listening to this show, you will better understand the challenges that some kids face and know how to help them overcome difficulties, become more resilient, maintain a love for learning, and experience more success.

 

Today I’m discussing what struggles look like for kids with learning challenges, what parents and educators should do when they see kids are struggling, when to consider an evaluation for a child, and the benefits of targeted intervention. 

 

Show Notes:

[0:45] - Welcome to the first episode! 

[1:36] - This episode is about why the identification of learning challenges is so important. What do we do right and where do we go wrong?

[2:24] - Approximately 5% of school aged children have a learning disability and 13% of all public school students receive special education services. Another 15% are struggling due to an unidentified learning or attention issue.

[3:40] - Children who see Dr. Wilson are those who have been struggling in some aspect of their life at school and/or at home.

[4:10] - Struggles can look different in different children. It may be an issue with listening, concentrating, motivation, etc. Dr. Wilson lists many different examples of what struggles look like in different children.

[5:36] - With misunderstanding sometimes comes mislabeling. Mislabeling can lead to behavioral problems and can cause a lot more anxiety.

[6:57] - We see the struggle, but what we tend to do is to rationalize the difficulty. We say that they’ll grow out of it, they’re lazy, or they’re the youngest in the class. We are doing them a disservice when we do this.

[9:01] - When children have a learning disorder, they typically experience trouble learning skills in the regular classroom and tend to be behind their peers in one or more areas.

[10:13] - Dr. Wilson uses an example of a child struggling with reading comprehension. A common “solution” is to jump to an intervention. But if you don’t know what the underlying problem is, how can you appropriately intervene?

[11:05] - Some reasons a child may be struggling with reading comprehension is poor working memory, poor phonological processing, and some could have issues with receptive language. Dr. Wilson describes these in length and demonstrates how every child has very different needs.

[14:45] - The same is true for writing. Writing is such a complex task for students to tackle.

[15:12] - Some children experience fine motor struggles and become fatigued when writing. Others may have a problem getting started, which Dr. Wilson shares is called task initiation. Expressive language could be the issue or it could be an attention problem. 

[17:18] - Children have a lot to say and have a lot of great ideas. For children who are struggling with phonological processing, they know what they want to write but their spelling interferes with their ability to demonstrate what they know.

[18:08] - If you don’t know why a child is struggling, it is difficult to give them the proper support.

[18:42] - When Dr. Wilson conducts evaluations for children with learning difficulties in her private practice, she is able to uncover the reason for the struggle. These assessments serve as a guide for appropriate intervention to address the difficulties a child experiences.

[19:16] - 1 in 3 children with one learning disorder will also meet criteria for an additional disorder.

[21:01] - When we give children the appropriate, evidence-based intervention for their specific learning disorder, we can reorganize their brain pathways and we will see significant improvement.

[22:51] - Not all kids who struggle need a full, comprehensive evaluation. Some learning struggles could be tied to anxiety.

[23:58] - If a child has anxiety and a learning disorder, the intervention for the learning disorder is not enough. The anxiety also needs to be addressed.

[24:26] - A child struggling with anxiety may be irritable, extremely tired, have difficulty sleeping, and may have concentration issues.

[25:31] - As human beings, we spend approximately one-third of our lives in a state of sleep, yet 70% of American kids and adults get insufficient sleep. When kids don’t get enough sleep, you get poor attention or other possible issues in school.

[27:41] - When a real problem continues to be rationalized and unidentified, children may grow to have low self esteem and are at greater risk of struggling with anxiety and depression.

[28:37] - As adolescents, these children are also at a higher risk of dropping out of school and abusing substances.

[29:18] - We have to move from observing the struggle to getting students the appropriate intervention and stop rationalizing the problem.

 

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20 Jun 2023Ep. 138: Bullying, Learning Differences, and Anxiety with Kayla Taylor00:45:59

In today’s episode, we have the author of an incredible book called Canaries Among Us, Kayla Taylor. And in our conversation today, we are tackling three topics at once: bullying, learning differences, and anxiety. 

Canaries Among Us is a raw and honest exploration of the everyday lives of children challenged by learning differences, anxiety, and bullying. Author Kayla Taylor blends science and poignant storytelling to create this necessary, timely, and stigma-tackling resource for anyone interested in child well-being. Kayla writes to address important issues plaguing families, and she uses a pseudonym to protect the identities of minors and other vulnerable individuals. She supports organizations that promote mental health, neurodiversity, and bullying prevention.

This is a conversation that will resonate with many families, especially those of children with learning differences.

 

Show Notes:

[2:26] - Kayla shares that she never saw herself as a writer, but had an experience that rocked her and her family’s world which drove her to write Canaries Among Us.

[4:05] - After journaling, writing creates meaning for Kayla.

[5:07] - She felt alone for a very long time, but she realized how many families were dealing with the same thing. She felt a moral obligation to pay it forward.

[7:17] - We have a huge societal issue with how we treat children with learning differences.

[8:05] - When something is seemingly wrong, we try to fix the kid. But we don’t look at how broken the system is.

[9:10] - We strip the joy out of life when we put people into boxes.

[10:29] - Kayla explains the title of her book Canaries Among Us.

[12:18] - If we just see a child based on their weakness, we miss so much about them.

[15:09] - As a society, we are not equipping teachers with the tools and strategies they need to support all students in their classes.

[17:12] - This is also impacted by the healthcare system.

[19:28] - There are so many points where we can improve the systems we have.

[21:28] - Kayla shares a story about a child who very clearly needed support and was denied everything.

[23:38] - Average doesn’t bring out the strengths in anyone. A child may appear average when it comes to testing, but is filled with anxiety and struggle.

[25:55] - When we focus on average and not everyone’s individual strengths and weaknesses, not only does the individual suffer, but society as a whole does as well.

[28:41] - Kayla explains why bullying is a major topic of her book in addition to learning differences and anxiety.

[30:39] - Marginalized children are unfortunately the most targeted for bullying.

[33:55] - Bullying is not a right of passage.

[36:47] - Kayla describes an experience with an administrator that denied bullying exists in elementary school.

[39:32] - There are different reactions to bullying and Kayla shares that the people who are the most helpful and empathetic are those who have had struggles themselves.

[41:45] - We need to shine a spotlight on the children who are making the effort to show their differences and celebrate the differences of others.

[43:52] - One way Kayla models acceptance to her own children is to strip her vocabulary of words like “strange” and “weird”.

 

About Our Guest:

Kayla Taylor is a best-selling writer, researcher, advocate, and parent. She recently published Canaries Among Us, an exposé blending poignant storytelling and groundbreaking research to empower those caring for the millions of kids challenged by learning differences, bullying, and anxiety. This heartrending chronicle bravely tackles harmful stigmas and proposes new ways of thinking about how we raise and teach our children. Throughout her story, Taylor reveals both the exquisite joy and painful heartache inherent in raising children who don't fit society's definition of "normal."

 

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12 Sep 2023Ep. 150: Vision-Related Learning Difficulties with Dr. Juanita Collier, MS, OD, FCOVD00:30:19

In her book, The Hidden Link Between Vision and Learning, Wendy Beth Rosen cited a study by Ohio State University. That research study found that 69% of students with IEPs identified as having treatable vision problems, yet would pass a typical school screening. Most people only associate vision with eyesight, but today’s guest explains that there is so much more to the visual system and even a child with great eyesight could be struggling with vision-related learning difficulties.

Today’s guest is Dr. Juanita Collier and she is here to discuss these vision related learning difficulties. A parent actually recommended this interview after her experience finding the help her child needed. I am so glad they reached out. This interview is so informative for all parents and Dr. Collier provides us with some great tips and guidelines to help the development of a child’s visual system.

 

Show Notes:

[2:57] - 10% of children have a vision-related problem that interferes with learning.

[3:22] - Vision is how you are taking in anything through your visual system. It is more than eyesight.

[4:33] - Most screenings test distance vision, but near vision isn’t frequently checked in children.

[5:46] - Kids don’t know how to explain that their vision is poor, especially if that is how it has always been for them.

[8:43] - Dr. Collier describes the different parts of a vision test and how she is able to determine if the challenges a child is having are due to their vision.

[11:56] - In addition to eyesight, visual processing needs to be evaluated.

[13:50] - Dr. Collier explains what visual therapy entails and how it can positively impact students with vision-related learning difficulties.

[16:03] - For children who didn’t crawl, parts of their vision hasn’t been fully developed.

[18:23] - Currently, we are teaching children to read before their visual system is ready.

[21:03] - Excessive screen time can create some problems.

[23:19] - We are losing the need for a lot of skills that used to develop naturally because of excessive screen use.

[25:05] - Eye strain is a concern. Adults will take a break when they have eye strain from screen time, but children don’t have that regulation.

[26:09] - What is the 20-20-20 Rule?

[28:23] - Dr. Collier shares information on concussions in children due to sports.

 

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Dr. Collier is a leading Behavioral Optometrist and the founder of 4D Vision Gym. She specializes in post-concussion care, vision-related learning difficulties, visual rehabilitation and visual development for patients of all ages.  She is one of only a few Optometrists in Connecticut to have earned Fellowship status by the International Examination & Certification Board (IECB) of the College of Optometrists in Vision Development. Dr. Collier has lectured extensively to physicians, therapists, school faculty, healthcare professionals and students on the importance of visual functioning, and advocates to make vision rehabilitation accessible to individuals of all ages and abilities. 

 

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26 Sep 2023Ep. 152: A Roadmap for Parenting Differently Wired Kids with Debbie Reber00:39:24

Today we are welcoming back parenting activist and previous podcast guest, Debbie Reber. Debbie and I have had the opportunity to speak on multiple occasions and her support for parents of differently wired kids is extraordinary. As the founder and CEO of Tilt Parenting, Debbie has provided resources to parents around the world and uses her own experiences as a parent of a neurodivergent child to help other families navigate their unique journeys.

In our conversation today, we are talking about her five step roadmap for parents. Parents of differently wired kids don’t get a roadmap for their journey, a journey which can be anxiety-provoking and lonely. But Debbie has created one and in our discussion, she shares what the steps are and why they are so important. And after learning each step, she explains how this roadmap changes in middle school.

It is a conversation and resource you won’t want to miss.

 

Show Notes:

[2:38] - Congratulations to Debbie for her 7 years of incredible work.

[4:57] - Once it is understood the reason behind a behavior, it is easier to address it and support regulation.

[6:44] - Karen has seen a shift in parents coming in for assessments not to “fix” their child but to better understand them.

[8:47] - Homeschooling her own differently wired child for six years impacted Debbie’s understanding of the connection between learning and the environment.

[11:02] - Debbie has created a roadmap for parents. This tool is incredible because parents typically don’t get a roadmap for raising a neurodivergent child.

[12:26] - The first step on the roadmap is processing. Give yourself time to take a breath and get clear on what your values and goals are as a family.

[15:04] - The second step is connecting. This journey feels isolating.

[16:27] - Gathering is the third step and Debbie explains that it is all about creating your team.

[19:36] - The next step is prioritizing. We can’t do it all at once and at any time in the journey, parents can get overwhelmed.

[22:44] - If a child is not regulated, no meaningful growth will take place.

[24:33] - The last step in the roadmap is acceptance. We’re here to support our kids. Part of acceptance is knowing that this is really hard.

[26:18] - Our kids are constantly changing and the transition to middle school is particularly challenging.

[27:47] - Sometimes you have to revisit things you already understand. For example ADHD in a 6 year old is different when they become a teenager.

[29:47] - You have your limitations as a parent. You can’t do it all.

[31:01] - The social landscape gets more complicated as a child ages and is certainly different from what parents experienced as adolescents.

[33:05] - It’s important for us to unpack our own middle school trauma and experiences because they’re going to impact our parenting.

[35:34] - Be your child’s companion through this journey.

 

About Our Guest:

Debbie Reber, MA is a parenting activist, bestselling author, speaker, and the CEO and founder of Tilt Parenting, a resource, top-performing podcast, consultancy, and community with a focus on shifting the paradigm for parents raising and embracing neurodivergent children. Her most recent book, Differently Wired: A Parent’s Guide to Raising an Atypical Child with Confidence and Hope, came out in June 2018. After living abroad in the Netherlands for five years, Debbie, her husband, and differently wired teen moved to Brooklyn, NY in 2019.

 

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14 Jun 2022Ep. 85: How a Personalized, Differentiated Curriculum Helps Students with Erika Sneath00:36:45

How do differentiated curriculum integrated with SEL support students with learning differences and mental health challenges? It’s safe to say that this type of instruction is fantastic for any student as it targets individual needs and strengths and today’s guest has all the answers.

Joining today is Erika Sneath, a former classroom teacher turned Curriculum Specialist at the unique Pacific Preparatory School where individualized curriculum isn’t only possible, it’s the norm. She is passionate about her job and creates lessons that are engaging, rigorous, and support the needs of all students. In this episode, we dive into those three components of a strong curriculum, why they are important, and how Pacific Preparatory School is able to provide that. She answers questions about flexibility and how students can get what they need in a 100% virtual setting.

 

Show Notes:

[2:08] - Through her years of teaching, Erika learned so much about kids who learn differently.

[3:11] - There is so much involved in being a student. Erika describes the lessons she learned from her students.

[4:37] - As a teacher, sometimes Erika felt that she couldn’t give every student exactly what they needed as an individual. She learned to give herself grace.

[6:00] - When there’s a relationship, learning soars because it is a safe, collaborative learning environment.

[7:14] - Curriculum and lessons should be engaging, rigorous, and supportive, but as a classroom teacher, Erika felt that she had to pick and choose.

[8:27] - What is appropriate for a student’s access point?

[9:49] - In a classroom, the access point might be all over the place. Where did students start with their learning and where can they go?

[11:29] - A lot of times, students who learn differently can get lost in a classroom of many students and fall behind without the level of support they need.

[12:50] - Erika gives an example of how she learned student behavior is linked to rigor, engagement, and support.

[15:42] - There are some questions teachers can ask themselves about lessons and individual students when individualizing curriculum.

[16:46] - Erika describes how the curriculum works at Pacific Preparatory School.

[17:50] - Customized curriculum looks different for each student and even takes into consideration a student’s anxiety.

[20:40] - As parents, ask questions. Pacific Preparatory School is very collaborative.

[22:20] - Virtual learning can be overwhelming, but reaching out for support is helpful.

[24:23] - How is Social Emotional Learning integrated into a fully online setting?

[25:57] - Growth Mindset is a large component of the curriculum at Pacific Preparatory School.

[27:02] - Social Emotional Learning cannot take place without a safe and collaborative learning environment.

[29:20] - In addition to collaborating with parents, other professionals are brought into conversations to help customize a student’s curriculum.

[31:15] - Pacific Preparatory School includes extracurricular activities that give students opportunities to socialize.

[33:18] - A flexible schedule creates new opportunities for students to socialize.

 

About Our Guest:

Erika graduated with a Bachelor of Arts in Elementary Education from Whitworth University before completing her Masters of Science degree in Curriculum and Instruction from Portland State University. She was a dedicated elementary classroom teacher for several years, and saw herself continuing along that path, until her passion for creating engaging curriculum led her to become the Curriculum Specialist & Academic Dean at Pacific Preparatory School. There she works with families and teachers to support the individualized curriculum development process. She is passionate about ensuring that lessons are engaging, rigorous, and support the needs of all students. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her friends and family, working on a puzzle, getting outside, and reading. She is currently in the process of writing her own children's book, which seeks to highlight the ordinary in inclusion and difference. 

 

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24 Nov 2020Ep. 5: Educational Therapy, Distance Learning, and Social Justice with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh00:53:49

As with many other facets of our lives, COVID-19 has had a drastic impact on education. What we have found out about our education system may be surprising to you, but it has not been a surprise to our guest today, Dr. Bibi Pirayesh.

Dr. Bibi Pirayesh is a Learning Specialist and an Educational Therapist who has been in private practice for over a decade. While the emphasis of Dr. Pirayesh’s work is on remediating learning disabilities in a one-on-one setting, she is also a sought after speaker and community advocate for children and families around learning rights.

Today, we discuss how educational therapists help students develop the skills they need in order to be successful. You will also learn what can be done now to make a difference in the life of a child who is struggling in school. How can we address learning loss in a child who is remote learning during these challenging times? Listen on to hear Dr. Pirayesh’s riveting statements on how learning differences and disorders can be viewed as a social justice issue.

 

Show Notes:

[1:56] - Dr. Wilson assesses kids to find out the underlying cause of learning difficulties and then refers them to professionals like Dr. Pirayesh.

[2:16] - Dr. Pirayesh began her career in education by accident and shares her story on how she started on this path with observing children and families as a researcher.

[3:46] - After beginning to work with children and families, Dr. Pirayesh felt so much fulfillment and it “awakened the teacher” in her.

[4:50] - Bibi started with a Science degree and learned to be an educator by doing.

[6:59] - Using a processing lens, Dr. Pirayesh helps students with remediation by first knowing what the issues are and provides targeted intervention.

[7:52] - There are several clusters of issues a student may have because different parts of the brain develop simultaneously.

[9:19] - Educational therapists are important as they will be able to bring in speech pathologists, occupational therapists, psychologists, etc. as they discover the needs of the student.

[10:01] - Bibi says that her work is about 60/40, with 60% of her work being one-on-one remediation with students and the remaining 40% helping students navigate through their school experience.

[11:35] - There are certain types of progress that are really easy to measure. Bibi uses phonics and phonemic awareness as an example. 

[12:17] - So much of the work is about helping kids own their learning and demystifying the learning process. There are a lot of emotions for parents and students to manage.

[14:12] - All brains are equipped to learn, grow, and expand. When we are able to help a child find what is getting in the way of that natural flow and find the ways we can work around it, the hardest part is done.

[15:15] - We live in a world where there is a lot of pressure on both students and parents. Bibi feels like our expectations have gotten so high and nothing we do feels like enough.

[16:34] - When kids struggle, they lose the motivation for learning. With high expectations placed on them, remediation is a therapeutic time for students to love learning and to know that they can learn.

[17:21] - Kids always love to learn, but unfortunately through the man-made constructs of our schooling, we erode their love of learning.

[18:26] - Bibi feels that the way our formal education system works is a very linear and limited way of thinking and it is a social injustice.

[19:24] - So much of the work Dr. Pirayesh does is to help kids understand that they may be struggling because of very limited measuring sticks.

[20:05] - What we know from research is that 10-15% of children struggle with learning difficulties.

[21:09] - There is a constant demand for higher and better production and that is what our education system has become. 

[22:04] - Due to the higher demand beginning earlier, childhood is diminished and people everywhere are feeling burnt out. Kids are feeling like they aren’t good enough and don’t have enough time.

[23:09] - These issues are large scale cultural issues and so much of the work we need to do is to undo the damage.

[24:21] - Due to COVID, we are seeing a step back to the basics and a lot more social emotional learning. But we are also seeing the disparities in the experience of distance learning for students.

[26:09] - Dr. Pirayesh says that COVID has lifted this veil and we can see the social injustice in some aspects of our education system.

[27:12] - If you follow the history of Special Education law, you will see that parents who are highly educated, who have resources, and are able to fight take advantage of the laws in place. Many parents who do not fit this mold have trouble accessing the very resources that protect them.

[28:42] - Due to the way these laws are designed, we see the overrepresentation of minorities and students from a low socio-economic background.

[30:01] - Over the years, Bibi noticed that the same people were coming through her private practice. She noticed the divide and how she contributed to it.

[31:52] - Dr. Pirayesh discusses how some people negatively view public schools where she lives in Los Angeles. 

[33:01] - When kids with learning difficulties pass through school, are they ready to navigate the real world? Bibi says that some groups of students will get the support and resources they need and some will not.

[34:31] - Unless you are willing to go deep to the roots of the problem and understand what’s going on to remediate it and rebuild step by step, all you are doing is putting a band-aid on the problem.

[36:08] - Communities are organically designed to be able to figure out and solve their own problems including issues surrounding learning for children in their communities, but we don’t allow for that to happen because of a narrow education system.

[36:58] - In some ways, COVID has been a gift, because it has opened our eyes to a lot of these systemic problems within education.

[38:02] - Are we going to harness this gift and make changes to solve these problems? Or, are we going to wait till this passes and go back to business as usual?

[39:38] - Some believe that the system is broken for many kids and needs to change. The system needs to work in a way that increases access to services in an equitable way no matter where you attend school. There is an opportunity to change the system.

[40:58] - Change happens very slowly and we need to recognize that the system wasn’t designed for everybody.

[43:04] - We’ve limited ourselves by seeing the world through a very tiny lens.

[44:15] - Having this conversation and acknowledging the problem is an important first step.

[46:05] - “Regardless of what is going on, if you move forward with the idea of connecting, empathizing, and understanding, somehow miraculously it will work.” Dr. Pirayesh gives some tips for distance learning and taking the opportunity to work for change.

[47:16] - We view our education system and teachers as this place where we go to get assessed. We go there to find out if we’re good enough. The truth is the relationship you have with your child’s teacher is very important because you are working together to provide for your child.

[48:30] - Take a moment to build a relationship with your child’s teacher and start a meaningful conversation.

[49:32] - When you reach out to the teacher, you are modeling to your child that it is the right thing to do to make yourself vulnerable and ask for help.

[50:55] - Remember that we are raising human beings and you can’t do that in a factory system.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Bibi Pirayesh holds a Bachelor's degree in Neuroscience and Education from the University of Pittsburgh and a Master's degree in Developmental Psychology from Columbia University where her work focused primarily on children’s development of mathematical thinking and cognitive neuroscience.  While the emphasis of Dr. Pirayesh’s work is on remediating learning disabilities in a one-on-one setting, she is also a sought after speaker and community advocate for children and families around learning rights. Bibi works with children grades 1-12 and covers a wide range of learning difficulties including dyslexia, ADHD, and spectrum disorders. Dr. Pirayesh completed her doctoral work at Loyola Marymount University where she is also Faculty and is involved with a number of service organizations including The Association of Educational Therapists.

 

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19 Apr 2022Ep. 77: Understanding Autism Spectrum Disorder with Lisa L. Hancock, Ph.D., MBA00:42:51
April is Autism Awareness and Acceptance Month and here at ChildNEXUS, we want to do our part to increase acceptance and understanding as well as help parents and educators connect with the resources they need. So, today we are re-airing an episode with Dr. Lisa Hancock to help us better understand what Autism Spectrum Disorder is.

1 in 54 children in the United States are diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. With this number growing, it would make sense that this is a very well understood disorder. Unfortunately there is a lot of confusion surrounding ASD, what it looks like, and what to do about it. Because of this confusion, I knew we needed an expert to help us better understand it.  Our guest today is Dr. Lisa Hancock.

Dr. Hancock is a licensed clinical psychologist who specializes in working with individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder, those who are twice-exceptional, and those who are highly gifted. She has worked for many years helping families navigate both public and private school systems, and she provides neuropsychological assessments to determine underlying issues in children, teens, and adults.

In today’s episode, Dr. Hancock paints a clearer picture of what Autism Spectrum Disorder is, why there is confusion surrounding it, and what it could look like in children and adults. She helps us better navigate understanding of this large umbrella term and leaves us wanting to learn more.

 

Show Notes:

[3:57] - Prior to 2013, there was a distinctive difference between Autism, Asperger’s, and other terms. Dr. Hancock explains why there was a difference.

[5:10] - After 2013, Autism and Asperger’s were put under one umbrella term.

[6:41] - Dr. Hancock understands why Autism and Asperger’s are grouped together but explains why those in the field will use both terms when speaking to parents.

[9:14] - Dr. Hancock diagnoses Autism in adults who were previously missed.

[10:09] - The tests used in diagnosing are different depending on the age of the child.

[10:59] - There is a test that is commonly used to diagnose Autism that Dr. Hancock does not use. 

[13:41] - Diagnosing Autism could be missed for a variety of reasons.

[15:14] - Age 4 and 5 is a window for noticeable Autism-related behaviors.

[16:26] - What is a child capable of doing but isn’t doing consistently?

[18:44] - There is no standard for diagnosing Autism in teens and adults in the United States. Some adults realize they may have been misdiagnosed.

[20:31] - Dr. Hancock developed a battery for identifying Autism in adults.

[23:10] - Those with Autism Spectrum Disorder and a developmental or intellectual delay are often diagnosed by a pediatrician. Dr. Hancock sees children who have less noticeable symptoms.

[25:56] - Dr. Hancock explains patterns in birth history, learning disabilities, eating issues, sleeping problems, and auditory processing.

[26:59] - Social issues in early years are harder to pinpoint especially when children attend the same school for several years.

[28:10] - Dr. Hancock describes some social issues that could vary depending on the child in question.

[29:53] - There is confusion around children being able to outgrow symptoms. Some young people with ASD continue to struggle with certain things, but you just don’t see it because they learn compensatory skills and strategies.

[31:42] - Why is it important to have an Autism diagnosis?

[33:51] - A lot of parents don’t want to tell the child’s school about a diagnosis due to stigma. But Dr. Hancock explains why this is not a good idea.

[34:47] - Dr. Hancock discusses safety in those with Autism.

[36:44] - There are things that are impacted that aren’t generally thought about.

[38:09] - We need to believe children when they say that they “don’t know” instead of assuming that they don’t want to do something.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Lisa Hancock is a licensed clinical psychologist who provides neuropsychological assessments, counseling, and psychotherapy to children, teens, families, couples, and adults. She has experience with neurodevelopmental, learning, processing, anxiety, and mood disorders; including ADHD, Autism Spectrum Disorders, dyslexia, math and writing disorders, dysgraphia, auditory and visual processing, communication and language disorders, anxiety disorders, conduct disorders, and depressive disorders. Dr. Hancock is experienced in conducting Independent Educational Evaluations (IEE); as well as supporting parents through the Individualized Education Plan (IEP) process.

Additionally, she specializes in working with twice-exceptional individuals (those who are gifted and have concurrent learning or developmental challenges) as well as with individuals who are highly gifted. Dr. Hancock also works with school and district administrators to provide teacher in-service training; conducts parent education workshops; and provides presentations at area schools and community events.

 

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13 Sep 2022Ep. 98: Managing Technology Use at Home with Dr. Joe Dilley00:36:41

With the use of technology increasing at a rapid rate among people of all ages, we have to ask ourselves how much is too much? The answer to that is kind of complicated. It depends on the content, depends on the activity, and it definitely depends on each individual user. But today’s guest shares why it is important to follow your gut if you think screen time and technology use is a deeper problem.

In this episode, Dr. Joe Dilley helps us see how to identify when kids are dependent on their electronics. This type of addiction as with any addition can be detrimental so he also shares ways we can break the addiction. We have to look for reasons and the motivations behind the use of technology and determine how much is enough and what is beyond the limit.

Dr. Joe Dilley is a licensed Clinical Psychologist practicing in Texas and California. He is also the author of a fantastic book called The Game is Playing Your Kid. This book was written pre-pandemic and although the Covid-19 pandemic changed the way we use technology, the book remains relevant and useful.

 

Show Notes:

[2:07] - Dr. Dilley wrote his book and a few articles for ChildNEXUS regarding technology use in kids pre-pandemic.

[3:03] - The pandemic provided an unexpected and unwelcome boost to everybody’s digital time spent.

[4:01] - Lockdowns and quarantines exacerbated an already high use of technology at home.

[5:08] - Dr. Dilley shares some of the issues high use of technology can cause.

[6:22] - Anxiety has a complex relationship with isolation.

[7:55] - We are just scratching the surface of mental health effects. What will the ripple effect be with academics?

[9:03] - Kids having to learn to read remotely during the pandemic, especially those who have learning differences, are likely to get looked over.

[11:29] - There are unique risk factors of tech use for those with ADHD and/or Autism Spectrum Disorder.

[13:36] - Technology could also be used as an escape for struggling students.

[15:27] - Trust your gut as a parent. If you are concerned that your child is spending too much time using technology, look into it.

[16:55] - Kids are going to push back.

[18:31] - “Screen time” encompasses so many types of use like television, social media, phone use, video games, and more.

[19:54] - What are the physiological and psychological effects of screen time? There are differences depending on the quality of the screen time.

[21:30] - There is a very complex relationship between the use of technology and the possible effects it has.

[22:58] - After about 3 hours, the benefits of gaming diminish.

[23:58] - Playing a video game as a team for 2 hours is much different than scrolling through Instagram for 2 hours.

[26:26] - The methods in his book have been recommended to parents by their own children. 

[27:27] - Going back to school could be a great time to reset the guidelines around technology use at home.

[29:34] - There are ways to communicate with your child or adolescent that can place boundaries on technology use.

[30:41] - This isn’t a quick process and it can be difficult.

[31:31] - It is much easier to just put the kids in front of the screen, especially the younger ones.

[33:22] - Seize the opportunities to make some changes.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Joe Dilley graduated from the University of Iowa with honors and high distinction in Psychology. He then brought this multifaceted view of the human psyche to his doctoral studies at Northwestern University, where he completed his Ph.D. in Clinical Psychology. Now a licensed psychologist practicing in Texas and California, Dr. Joe specializes in the assessment and treatment of anxiety, ADHD, and Gaming Disorder. His book The Game Is Playing Your Kid: How to Unplug & Reconnect in the Digital Age offers practical and fair approaches to managing screen time, even in the COVID era.

 

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13 Aug 2024Ep. 198: Strategies for a Smooth Back-to-School Transition with Gabrielle Hennings and Zoe Hemenway00:36:03

Can you believe that it is almost time to go back to school? This time of year can be stressful for students and parents, especially when there’s a history of challenges with learning and transitions. Today’s guests, Gabrielle Hennings and Zoe Hemenway, bring their combined experience in education, specializing in supporting neurodiverse learners, to the conversation about preparing our students for this sometimes-exciting, sometimes-stressful transition.

In this episode, Gabrielle and Zoe share practical strategies to ease into the first days of a new school year. They’ll discuss the importance of starting routines now, rather than waiting until the first day of school. Key tips include establishing morning routines with visual reminders and setting predictable schedules to reduce anxiety. We’ll also cover how to gradually adjust sleep schedules and find the right planners or checklists for your unique learner. Additionally, Gabrielle and Zoe will emphasize the importance of focusing on students’ strengths and using the new school year as an opportunity for a fresh start. 

Whether you’re a parent or educator, this episode offers valuable insights to help neurodiverse learners thrive in the upcoming school year.

 

Show Notes:

[2:54] - Start preparing now. Don’t wait till the first day of school to start a routine.

[4:29] - To help with a morning routine, Gabrielle and Zoe suggest using visual reminders.

[6:04] - Starting the day with a sense of predictability helps set neurodiverse students up for a smoother day and can reduce stress and anxiety.

[8:35] - Begin by setting alarms earlier every day until students are accustomed to waking up earlier. Place the visual reminders someplace they can see often.

[9:45] - Not all planners and checklists work for everyone. Find one that works for you.

[12:48] - Using a planner for fewer tasks in the summer is a great idea to maintain the responsibility and accountability before the stakes are higher during the school year.

[14:05] - If students set a goal for themselves, it is always an important and meaningful goal.

[16:24] - Consider previous school year’s reports and grades and help set achievable goals.

[17:51] - No matter the plan or goals, executive functioning needs to be a focus.

[20:14] - Students need to be given the tools to realize their capabilities.

[22:17] - We need to also be mindful of implementing an afternoon routine.

[25:05] - Strategies that Gabrielle and Zoe have written are designed to be understandable and digestible by students. This is important for educators to remember.

[27:20] - Although there are things that are difficult, we need to remind our students of their strengths.

[28:53] - This is every student’s opportunity for a brand new start. What do they want their fresh start to look like?

[32:09] - Don’t let the bumps in the road stop you from sticking with things.

 

About Our Guests:

Gabrielle Hennings and Zoe Hemenway bring a combined dedication of 14 years to the realm of education, shaping young minds for a brighter future. Their journey has been marked by a deep commitment to understanding and appreciating neurodiverse learners, valuing the richness that diverse learning styles bring to the educational landscape. In their extensive experience, Gabrielle and Zoe have cultivated a profound insight into the unique needs of neurodiverse learners. They firmly believe in the power of meeting each learner at their individual starting point, recognizing that true educational growth happens when tailored to individual potential. Together, Gabrielle and Zoe bring a wealth of experience and a shared passion for creating an inclusive and supportive learning environment. Their commitment to recognizing and nurturing the potential in every student defines the ethos of their educational approach. Join them as they embark on a journey of personalized learning, where diversity is celebrated, and every student has the opportunity to blossom.

 

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29 Jun 2021Ep. 36: Empowering Professionals and Caregivers to Improve the Lives of Children Around the World with Sandy Dorsey, MA, CCC-SLP00:36:37

We often discuss learning differences, developmental disorders, assessments and interventions with respect to children in the United States. But what about children across the globe who need support? Today’s guest shares this staggering statistic - 90% of school aged children across the world do not receive the education and services they need; at the time of the recording, I thought that it was 50%, and my heart dropped. What can we do to help? In today’s episode, Sandy Dorsey and I have a conversation about the amazing work she is doing and the global impact she is making.

 

Sandy Dorsey is a speech-language pathologist in New York with a passion for advocating for children on a global level. Through her organization, Smiles for Speech, she has worked with children, families, caregivers, educators, and doctors around the world. Today she shares some of her experiences in Ghana, Kenya, and Peru and through teletherapy and traveling overseas with a team, she has helped spread the word regarding providing services in underserved communities.

 

This conversation is inspiring and eye-opening. Listen in to learn Sandy’s approach to connecting with diverse communities and educating families to better serve children around the world. 

 

 

Show Notes:

[2:15] - Karen and Sandy have not met in person but are alumni from Howard University.

[3:04] - Through Sandy’s travels, she became passionate about advocating for children globally.

[4:29] - Sandy discusses the fact that many people across the world do not have access to speech therapy nor do they know what it is.

[5:13] - Many school-aged children around the world do not attend school due to the lack of funding and services for their special needs.

[6:05] - In many communities, there is a negative stigma and attitudes surrounding developmental disorders due to lack of awareness.

[7:17] - Sandy describes her approach when helping families in different cultures with their child’s unique challenges.

[8:43] - Sharing ideas is something that is key to Sandy’s approach. This gives families options and she can see their response.

[9:51] - In some cultures, Sandy has found that many fathers leave when they find that their child has a developmental disorder. Sandy explains that connecting with the child’s mother is important to her approach.

[10:45] - Because of negative stigma and beliefs, children with developmental disorders are sometimes hidden completely from their community.

[12:01] - The services provided even through teletherapy have provided families with strategies and support. Word-of-mouth testimonies have helped with the negative stigma in some communities.

[13:22] - In Kenya specifically, Sandy explains that community members and families didn’t know that speech therapy existed and now the word is spreading.

[14:30] - Sandy points out that it isn’t just communication that this type of therapy helps. Swallowing is another part of the program and can help with feeding issues that could cause malnutrition.

[15:48] - In some cases, families know about services but cannot access them or afford them. In some communities, services mean just once a year.

[17:01] - The most important thing to look for in speech and communication is to note if the child is requesting or initiating communication.

[18:27] - Once a child is requesting what they need, pause to give them the opportunity to verbalize it. If they are not, that could be a red flag.

[19:46] - Sometimes comprehension of spoken language can be misunderstood as a hearing problem or a problem with attention.

[21:13] - Sandy shares recent work with doctors and psychologists in Ghana. In some countries, doctors are saying that not talking is normal till the age of 4.

[23:10] - In these cases, so much time has lapsed for the child.

[23:47] - Sandy explains what she does on a local level in her community in New York working in preschools to educate teachers and caregivers.

[25:51] - Word of mouth plays a role in the area of educating professionals and doctors as well. Sandy collaborates with them through workshops and training.

[26:50] - Sandy shares a story about a baby that was not eating and how this type of therapy benefits more than just communication.

[27:43] - The key to global impact is interdisciplinary collaboration.

[28:43] - In addition to working with children, Sandy has worked with adults in Peru with a team of other therapists and experts.

[29:48] - Even in the United States, it is difficult to add needed services through the process we have. Having a team is so much more beneficial.

[31:08] - Sandy describes Smiles for Speech, the organization she has founded to provide global support.

[32:40] - Traveling has been paused due to COVID-19, but Sandy hopes to resume overseas work in 2022.

 

About Our Guest:

Sandy Dorsey is a speech-language pathologist (SLP), educator, and global advocate for children with special needs. She has provided diagnostic and therapeutic speech services for over 25 years in a variety of SLP care settings for children and adults primarily from diverse and underserved communities. She serves local schools and skilled nursing facilities with a team of speech-language pathologists, clinical fellows, and graduate students via teletherapy at her New-York-based private practice, All About Speech, LLC

As a proud Howard University graduate, Sandy is eager to give back to the next generation of speech-language pathologists with a focus on cultural responsiveness and increasing diversity in the field of speech-language pathology.

Sandy founded Smiles for Speech in July, 2017 to empower professionals and caregivers in low income communities; her organization provides support with evidence-based intervention through interdisciplinary service trips, teletherapy, workshops, and parent support groups. Their goal is to provide long-term sustainable solutions for intervention services with a multi-disciplinary approach that includes intensive training for staff and families through mindful collaboration with other non-profit organizations with similar values. 

 

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23 Jan 2024Ep. 169: The Science of Exercise and the Brain with Dr. John Ratey00:35:46

We know that exercise does have a positive impact on the brain. We know that exercise can optimize brain function and prevent cognitive decline in adults. But what can it do for children and adolescents that learn and think differently?

Today’s guest is Dr. John Ratey, an internationally recognized expert in neuropsychiatry. Dr. Ratey became interested in the science of exercise and the brain early on in his career and has seen first-hand the benefits not only to one’s body, but also behavior, executive functioning skills, and even attention. In today’s episode, Dr. Ratey digs in and explains how exercise and being physically active can change more than your physical health.

 

Show Notes:

[2:38] - Dr. Ratey became interested in the impact of exercise on the brain as an athlete in medical school and seeing studies comparing exercise and antidepressants.

[4:49] - Dr. Ratey also became interested in ADHD, specifically how it impacts adults.

[6:31] - Consistent exercise can be a type of treatment for ADHD symptoms.

[7:45] - Not only do our bodies need exercise, but our brains do as well.

[8:52] - The beauty of exercise is the accessibility.

[11:12] - When we move, we activate the same nerve cells that we use to think.

[13:12] - Movement and exercise improve attention as well as executive functioning skills.

[15:04] - Dr. Ratey explains how he has visited schools over the years and has seen the results of exercise on student behavior.

[17:29] - Dr. Ratey lists the endorphins and hormones that are increased as a result of exercise.

[20:42] - The more brain cells you activate, the more BDNF you have. It is like brain fertilizer.

[23:06] - Dr. Ratey calls this “Miracle-Gro for your brain.”

[25:23] - Exercise also has an impact on the cerebellum which is discussed at length in the book, ADHD 2.0.

[29:29] - “Sitting is the new smoking.” The more sedentary someone is, the less healthy they are.

[30:44] - The experience of COVID-19 changed our society’s drive to exercise and move their bodies.

[31:39] - To optimize brain function and prevent cognitive decline, exercise is so important.

 

About Our Guest:

John J. Ratey, MD, is an Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and an internationally recognized expert in Neuropsychiatry. He has published over 60 peer-reviewed articles, and 12 books published in 20 languages, including the groundbreaking ADD-ADHD “Driven to Distraction” series with Ned Hallowell, MD. Their latest release, ADHD 2.0 (2021) explores new science and strategies. With the publication of his bestseller, "Spark-The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain," Dr. Ratey established himself as one of the world's foremost authorities on the brain-fitness connection in areas such as ADHD, Autism, Aging, and Cognition.

Recognized by his peers as one of the Best Doctors in America since 1997, Dr. Ratey was recently honored by the Massachusetts Psychiatric Society as "Outstanding Psychiatrist of the Year" for advancing the field. Dr. Ratey and his work are frequently profiled in the media, where he’s been featured on ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and NPR, as well as in The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post, US News and World Report, Men’s Health, and other national publications. Dr. Ratey maintains an active practice in Cambridge, MA and Los Angeles, CA.

 

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17 Sep 2024Ep. 203: ADHD and the Gut-Brain Connection: Exploring Integrative Treatments with Sara Langley, MSN, PMHNP-BC00:32:45

Welcome to this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning, where we dive into a topic that is of growing interest to parents and caregivers of children and adolescents with ADHD: integrative treatments for ADHD symptoms. Today’s guest, Sara Langley, is an expert in Nutritional Psychiatry and will share valuable insights on how diet and integrative approaches can complement traditional ADHD treatments.

ADHD is the most searched topic on ChildNEXUS, and our episodes on ADHD are among the most downloaded. It’s clear that parents and caregivers are eager to learn about different options to support their children, and this episode is packed with useful information.

Sara specializes in how diet can impact mood and behavior, and she offers practical advice on where to begin. She suggests some starting points, but acknowledges that making dietary changes can feel overwhelming, so she shares helpful tips for parents on how to start small and build from there.

Throughout the episode, Sara discusses the common challenges faced by children with ADHD and the supplements that can help. While she emphasizes that nutrition isn’t a “cure” for a problem, it is an important piece of the puzzle. Sara also highlights the strong connection between the gut and brain and how addressing this can benefit not only ADHD symptoms but overall well-being.

If you’re looking for new ways to support your child or simply curious about how integrative approaches can complement traditional treatments, you won’t want to miss this episode!

 

Show Notes:

[3:16] - Sara specializes in Nutritional Psychiatry, which is about how diet can impact mood and behavior.

[5:16] - One good starting place that Sara recommends is to start integrating probiotics.

[6:28] - Supplements are commonly asked about by parents of children with ADHD and there are several that could benefit as an addition to a vitamin rich diet.

[9:17] - A lot of time, we cannot get the full nutritional benefit from the food we eat due to different factors.

[10:43] - It can be very overwhelming to parents to make dietary changes. Sara gives some tips on where to start.

[12:30] - Generally, children with ADHD have trouble falling asleep. There are supplements that can help with this as well.

[13:53] - Nutrition is part of a puzzle. It isn’t a “cure”.

[17:18] - Working with a mental health professional or pediatrician can help guide a parent in choosing the right things for their child.

[18:40] - There is a connection between the gut and the brain.

[22:31] - It is tricky for many parents to make dietary changes due to the pickiness of their child as an eater and their need for quick dopamine through snacking.

[23:47] - Some parents are seeking something different from medication.

[25:59] - This integrative approach benefits more than ADHD symptoms.

 

About Our Guest:

Sara Langley is a dedicated Psychiatric Mental Health Nurse Practitioner who specializes in treating children and adolescents with brain-based medical conditions. She is double board-certified in both Primary Care and Psychiatry. A graduate of the Columbia University School of Nursing, class of 2014, she later earned her Post Master’s certificate in Psychiatric Mental Health Nursing from UCSF and completed a Fellowship in Primary Care Psychiatry with UCI. Additionally, she holds a certification in Nutritional Psychiatry through the Integrative Psychiatry Institute.

In her practice, Sara integrates Nutritional Psychiatry, focusing on how diet affects mood and behavior, and Functional Psychiatry, which aims to identify and treat the root causes of mental illness. This is combined with FDA-approved traditional medication management, providing families with care that is truly comprehensive and balanced.

 

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01 Aug 2023Ep. 144: Raising Differently Wired Kids with Joy and Confidence with Debbie Reber00:35:11

If you have a child who thinks, learns, or experiences the world differently than others, this episode is for you. Parents of differently wired kids may face a negative stigma, uncertainty, and may make decisions from a place of fear, especially in regards to education. But today’s guest shares her experience and encourages parents to change their mindset and make decisions from a place of possibility.

I am thrilled to welcome Debbie Reber as today’s guest on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. Debbie inspired me to begin this podcast journey and as a parent of a differently wired child herself, she comes to the podcast today with personal stories, many years of experience, and open arms to welcome other parents on the same journey. Debbie is a parenting activist, author, keynote speaker, and founder of TiLT Parenting. The resources and community she offers through TiLT Parenting are helping parents around the world connect and support each other in raising differently wired children.

We could talk for hours, but on today’s episode with Debbie we focus on what it means to be “differently wired,” how Debbie grew from making decisions from fear to making decisions from love and possibility, and how parents can use their voices to make positive change in the education of their children.

 

Show Notes:

[1:35] - Debbie really leans in to embracing the fact that your child may be differently wired.

[3:26] - Debbie never intended to walk this path, but as her son received diagnoses, it made things more challenging.

[5:01] - Sharing the challenge in finding the right environment for her son, Debbie explains that they bounced around to different schools and then homeschooled for 6 years.

[6:00] - This experience was the catalyst for her to start her own podcast and help other parents in similar situations.

[7:58] - As she observed her son learning at home, Debbie made the realization of why traditional schooling had not been a success.

[9:16] - There needs to be a shift in how we educate children.

[11:00] - Debbie demonstrates that the traditional school model does not teach kids to be critical thinkers.

[15:57] - Learning loss is of course a concern, but Dr. Wilson believes that social, emotional, and mental health support is more important.

[18:49] - Debbie talks about her book Differently Wired: Raising an Exceptional Child in a Conventional World. 

[20:04] - There is no clear path for parents, especially when raising a differently wired child. 

[21:07] - Debbie provides some reflection questions to ask yourself as a parent to find out more about choosing love and possibility.

[22:23] - If we, as parents, have a negative idea of what a child with a diagnosis looks like, we will not make decisions that are best for the child.

[24:38] - The idea behind Debbie’s podcast and the community she has built is to help support parents.

[28:21] - Dr. Wilson and Debbie talk about the IEP process and the changes that need to be made to the educational system.

[30:10] - Debbie references a book that she recommends called The End of Average by Todd Rose and how there really isn’t any such thing as “average.”

[31:23] - Karen highly recommends Debbie’s book and her TEDtalk.

 

About Our Guest:

Debbie Reber is a parenting activist, New York Times bestselling author, keynote speaker, and the founder of TiLT Parenting, a top podcast, community, and educational resource for parents raising differently wired children. Her book, Differently Wired: Raising an Exceptional Child in a Conventional World, came out in June 2018. After living abroad in the Netherlands for five years, Debbie, her husband, and 16-year-old son relocated to Brooklyn, NY in 2019.

 

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06 Sep 2022Ep. 97: Building Communities of Support and Resistance with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh00:40:46

This episode may make you angry but I am hoping that it will also motivate you to advocate for change. I’ve invited Dr. Bibi Pirayesh back to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast to talk about learning disabilities as a social justice issue. This topic is certainly charged and rightfully so. Today, we discuss whether our current education system was built for neurodiverse learners.

It is hard for me to believe that Dr. Pirayesh fell into educational therapy by accident as she is extraordinary at the work she does. She is also an extraordinary advocate. Her work in the field is tireless and in this episode, she and I discuss the hardships we face as a society that does not allow all learners to reach their potential.

 

Show Notes:

[2:47] - Welcome back, Dr. Pirayesh!

[3:53] - Learning disabilities is a social justice issue and in recent years social justice has become extremely politicized.

[5:10] - While social justice is typically viewed as based around race, gender, and sex, it is all connected through ableism.

[6:19] - Why people may feel frustrated and feel like they can’t move forward.

[8:19] - What is the ideology that fuels ableism in the education system?

[9:57] - The way that it is, isn’t necessarily the way it is supposed to be. It’s just the way it was built and the education system is working exactly the way it was designed.

[11:10] - The education system was designed to be competitive.

[13:53] - When you read special education law, it becomes clear that this system is created in a specific way.

[15:56] - As a system, we don’t always interpret the science correctly.

[16:54] - During the pandemic, people became more aware of learning problems and mental health issues, but this is not a new problem.

[18:41] - Dr. Pirayesh was hopeful in the beginning of the pandemic when there were fast changes in education, but things are settling back to where they were as the pandemic slows.

[20:18] - One positive change is access to mental health support, but we haven’t made any shifts for marginalized students who learn differently.

[22:10] - Reading is one area where research is plentiful and solid and yet we aren’t making changes in the system.

[23:16] - There is a connection between the prison system and education system.

[26:09] - Many people, including Dr. Pirayesh, have felt at times hopeless for change.

[27:45] - Small change is a starting point and Dr. Pirayesh sees the impact of individuals and schools being receptive to advocacy.

[29:49] - Change is absolutely possible.

[31:21] - Dr. Pirayesh shares some mindset shifts she has had to make in her business and personal life.

[33:04] - There are hopeful things in a society that isn’t built for everyone. Having these conversations isn’t enough. There has to be action.

[34:42] - How are people coming up against the system and what is the result?

[37:10] - Share your story here.

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Bibi Pirayesh holds a Bachelor's degree in Neuroscience and Education from the University of Pittsburgh and a Master's degree in Developmental Psychology from Columbia University where her work focused primarily on children’s development of mathematical thinking and cognitive neuroscience.  While the emphasis of Dr. Pirayesh’s work is on remediating learning disabilities in a one-on-one setting, she is also a sought after speaker and community advocate for children and families around learning rights. Bibi works with children grades 1-12 and covers a wide range of learning difficulties including dyslexia, ADHD, and spectrum disorders. Dr. Pirayesh completed her doctoral work at Loyola Marymount University where she is also faculty and is involved with a number of service organizations including The Association of Educational Therapists.

 

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29 Mar 2022Ep. 74: Not What I Expected - Help and Hope for Parents of Atypical Children with Dr. Rita Eichenstein00:41:16

Part of the mission for this podcast is to provide help and hope to parents, caregivers, and educators to children who learn and think differently. Oftentimes the parents’ feelings may be overlooked when it comes to raising an atypical child and today’s episode is all about validating your emotions during various phases of helping your child.   

Dr. Rita Eichenstein joins me today to talk about her research and her award winning book, Not What I Expected: Help and Hope for Parents of Atypical Children. She found that in the midst of tons of parenting books, there wasn’t anything for parents who are dealing with confusing and sometimes overwhelming emotions. Dr. Eichenstein uses her expertise and passion to provide parents with the validation that it is okay to feel the way you do and that you are certainly not alone. So listen to this episode to learn the science behind the brain of a parent and what to expect emotionally as you help your child navigate their own unique journey in life.

 

Show Notes:

[3:12] - There are patterns in how parents feel. There are a lot of stigmas and common reactions.

[4:18] - The goal is for children to be happy and people need support.

[5:12] - Dr. Eichenstein gives examples of what questions parents commonly come to her with.

[6:51] - With raising an atypical child, fear and anxiety are common feelings for parents.

[7:46] - What makes us human is our diversity.

[9:19] - It is important to know that some kids will need more support than others.

[10:31] - There are tons of parenting books available but Dr. Eichenstein realized that there wasn’t anything about what it is like inside the mind of a parent.

[11:56] - Research shows that the development of the brain changes when a person becomes a parent.

[13:12] - Dr. Eichenstein explains the science behind the changes in the brain and hormones when becoming a parent.

[14:29] - The brain of a parent with a baby is the equivalent to the brain of someone in love.

[15:27] - There is also a time of grieving that Dr. Eichenstein describes.

[18:10] - Depending on the age, atypical children will need different types of support. The parent worry brain is normal and you are not alone.

[20:01] - The first phase for some parents is denial.

[21:20] - Anger is the next phase for some parents.

[22:24] - Anger is a natural response and parents need to learn to trust.

[24:32] - Seeking solutions is commonly what happens next. Google can be a resource but you will not always find accurate information.

[25:54] - There is research to support evidence based intervention provided by experts.

[27:21] - Depression is also normal during these times.

[28:33] - Self-care is incredibly important and it is okay to ask for help.

[30:14] - Acceptance will come and it is okay to feel heartbroken and total love for the child you have at the same time.

[32:40] - Although we think a child may not understand, be careful of the messages you send to your child by being self-aware.

[34:08] - Make it clear to the child that you are there for them. Convey messages with compassion and empathy.

[35:39] - In some cases, parents may feel a sense of relief when they learn what causes certain behaviors.

[38:14] - Being wired differently are both superpowers and obstacles.

[40:01] - Dr. Eichenstein’s book is available on Amazon and highly recommended.



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Dr. Rita Eichenstein is a licensed psychologist with post-doctoral training in pediatric neuropsychology and special education. She specializes in pediatric neuropsychological assessments and parent training skills. Dr. Eichenstein maintains a private practice at Cedars-Sinai Medical Towers in Los Angeles, California. Areas of expertise include learning disabilities, attention deficit disorders, autism spectrum, gifted populations, as well as college students and graduate students, as well as counseling parents of all ages. She is also the author of the award winning book, Not What I Expected: Help and Hope for Parents of Atypical Children. 

 

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21 Sep 2021Ep. 48: How Sleep Affects Academic Performance and Mood00:23:28

As we get started and accustomed to a new academic year for students, we need to take a moment to talk about sleep. How much sleep do children and adolescents actually need? What are signs that they are getting quality sleep or insufficient sleep? Many adults track their own sleep, but are you monitoring your child’s?

 

When children and adolescents don’t get enough sleep it impacts their ability to focus, remember information, and regulate their emotions - all things that are critical to their wellbeing on any given day. In today’s episode, we’re discussing this crucial piece to a child’s health. So listen to find out if your child is sleeping enough, getting quality sleep, and some tips to improve sleep if it is a struggle.

 

Show Notes:

[2:03] - Dr. Wilson is very passionate about the topic of sleep. It’s not thought about often, but it is so critical.

[3:00] - Transitioning from a summer with little sleep schedule to a new school year with a routine can be very difficult for children.

[3:51] - The importance of sleep cannot be overestimated but many children and teens do not get enough sleep.

[5:04] - How much sleep do kids actually need? Dr. Wilson shares published sleep guidelines.

[6:38] - The number of hours are in a range and there are other indicators of getting enough sleep.

[8:13] - What are the signs of sleep deprivation in kids?

[9:01] - Also pay attention to how long it takes for a child to fall asleep and how alert they are throughout the day.

[10:18] - Insufficient sleep can cause issues with memory, mood, and stress.

[11:26] - Early sleep issues are predictive of ADHD symptoms later.

[12:25] - Even just an hour difference in sleep can make a difference with attention and cognitive functioning. 

[13:51] - School schedules have an impact on sleep and some school districts start later in the morning to allow for students to sleep longer durations.

[15:19] - Kids with ADHD are more likely to challenge parents and have behavioral problems around bedtime.

[16:39] - Karen advises to have a consistent bedtime routine, to avoid overscheduling activities, and to remove distractions from the bedroom.

[19:11] - Lights from screens can suppress melatonin and can delay the onset of sleep.

[19:56] - Having a dark and cool room is best for quality sleep.

[20:50] - Always talk about sleep patterns with your child’s pediatrician.

[21:35] - Making sleep a priority for yourself is modeling the importance of sleep in a healthy lifestyle for your children.

 

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15 Jun 2021Ep. 34: Key Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD with Dr. Russell A. Barkley00:45:45

In today’s episode, we are continuing our conversation about Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) with the incredible Dr. Russell Barkley. I am honored to have him on the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast as an internationally recognized authority in ADHD and I know that this discussion will be a great resource for parents, families, educators, and clinicians working with the child with ADHD.

Dr. Barkley is a clinical psychologist and a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine. He is also an author of numerous books particularly on the subject of ADHD and today we discuss his most recent book The 12 Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD, which I highly recommend. 

In addition to sharing his vast amount of knowledge, Dr. Barkley also shares how ADHD has affected his own family that has helped lead to his passion for understanding it and guiding others. He has been incredibly supportive of ChildNEXUS and was gracious enough to allow me to republish his ADHD fact sheets on our website.

So listen on to learn the science behind ADHD and several of the key principles for raising a child with the disorder. 

 

Show Notes:

[2:16] - The fourth edition of Dr. Barkley’s best-selling book Taking Charge of ADHD: The Complete, Authoritative Guide for Parents became available in 2020. There is also a companion guide called The 12 Principles for Raising a Child with ADHD.

[2:56] - Dr. Barkley explains that a superficial definition of ADHD is a neurodevelopmental disability in the emergence of two mental functions that we all possess: the capacity to pay attention and the ability to inhibit excessive action.

[4:29] - If you “look under the hood,” ADHD is actually a disorder of self-regulation and the major executive functions

[5:41] - When you look at ADHD beyond the superficial level, you can see how debilitating it can be.

[6:22] - Dr. Barkley explains the inhibition dimension of ADHD and how it appears in children with ADHD.

[7:37] - The hyperactivity we see not only affects movement, but also manifests as excessive talking and interrupting.

[8:00] - Cognitive impulsivity is another symptom of ADHD.

[9:06] - Another type of impulsivity that most people don’t talk about is motivational impulsivity.

[10:04] - Those with ADHD don’t value delayed gratification and consequences which can lead to problems with some types of intervention.

[10:29] - People with ADHD also show their emotions very quickly and more strongly and can’t recover from them as quickly as others.

[12:00] - The emotional impulsivity in ADHD is different from mood disorders because the emotions are rational, just not controlled.

[13:20] - Many times, these impulsivities are missed especially when manifested in preschoolers with ADHD. 

[14:19] - Dr. Barkley describes how ADHD impacts a child’s executive functioning development from preschool onward. 

[15:46] - Across development, ADHD is first and foremost a self-regulation problem. Relative to your age, one is not able to do what their peers can.

[17:07] - What makes people with ADHD different from those without ADHD is not qualitative.

[18:04] - What is normal age-appropriate behavior and what is cause for concern? ADHD begins where impairment begins.

[19:11] - The dimensionality is something that can cause a lot of confusion and misconceptions.

[21:20] - Raising a child with ADHD has been found through research to be as stressful and as challenging as raising a child with Autism Spectrum Disorder.

[22:32] - In the 1970s when Dr. Barkley entered the field, it was believed that ADHD came from bad parenting.

[24:14] - Dr. Barkley emphasizes the importance of finding strengths and aptitudes of a child with ADHD even if they are “outside the box.”

[26:12] - There are a lot of pathways to success and it's not all about making money. It is about finding something that is meaningful to you and following it. Those with ADHD can do that in spite of their difficulties.

[27:45] - The next step is to find opportunities in the community that help the child with ADHD with their aptitude. Develop the non-traditional aptitude and be in their corner all the time.

[29:04] - Focusing solely on excellence in school will not lead to success for children with ADHD.

[30:51] - Dr. Barkley discusses the importance of true acceptance and throwing your ideas of “good parenting” out the window.

[31:55] - Focusing on what is developmentally critical over the trivial can improve your relationship with your child.

[34:33] - Because of a strong relationship, when consequences become inevitable, you won’t be driving your child away.

[36:23] - Dr. Barkley’s book comes highly recommended for parents with practical strategies for raising a child with ADHD.

[37:21] - Why did Dr. Barkley write The 12 Principles of Raising a Child with ADHD?

[39:07] - The book is a great next step for parents after a diagnosis. 

[40:09] - Dr. Barkley shares the personal impact ADHD has had on him, including the death of his twin brother.

[42:07] - Time blindness is something people with ADHD really suffer with and can be very demoralizing and devastating if not understood.


About Our Guest:

Russell A. Barkley, Ph.D. is an internationally recognized authority on Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) in children and adults who has dedicated his career to widely disseminating science-based information about ADHD.  He is currently a Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the Virginia Commonwealth University School of Medicine. Dr. Barkley has published numerous books, rating scales, and clinical manuals and more than 300 scientific articles and book chapters on ADHD and related disorders. He has presented more than 800 invited lectures in more than 30 countries, and he has appeared on nationally televised programs including 60 Minutes, the Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Sunday Morning, CNN, and other programs.



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16 Feb 2021Ep. 17: How Micro-Schools Use an Innovative and Personalized Approach to Help Students Thrive with Dr. Maureen O’Shaughnessy00:36:21

Imagine a learning environment that addresses not only the academic needs of a child but also their social and emotional needs. Imagine an environment where kids can feel seen, heard, and valued. Let’s continue our series on alternative learning environments today with our amazing and inspiring guest Dr. Maureen O’Shaughnessy.

Dr. O’Shaughnessy is a career school innovator with over 30 years of transforming learning in schools to better serve all students. She is the founding director of Leadership Preparatory Academy, a nonprofit progressive micro-school in Washington State. With a master’s degree in educational administration and a doctorate degree in educational leadership, she has an extensive understanding of the components needed to transform the education system.

For so many parents, it is hard to find the right academic environment for their children with learning differences. Listen and learn about the possibility of a micro-school being an option for your child’s education.

 

Show Notes:

[3:13] - A micro-school simply means a small school. But Maureen explains that it is a way to educate students in a smaller community and not more of the same.

[4:20] - In a micro-school, there is a strong sense of community, and kids having a lot of voice and choice in their own educational path.

[5:09] - There is a lot of opportunity to connect real-life experiences and project-based learning in which students follow their interests.

[5:50] - Maureen explains that there are not a lot of micro-schools available to attend and the biggest reason for this is parents’ false sense of nostalgia.

[6:56] - As much as the world has progressed, the education system has not.

[7:41] - There is a cry for institutions to change and be more equitable and education needs to make the change as well. Rather than content focused, education needs to be context focused.

[9:30] - Maureen shares her background as an academic leader and her mission to find the right fit for her daughters’ education.

[10:12] - In 2012, Maureen opened a micro-school. Parents are concerned about college, but Maureen has found that her students are more prepared for college than those in traditional learning environments.

[11:34] - By starting small, Maureen was able to be more nimble and flexible in developing a micro-school.

[12:42] - There are a lot of schools within a school that branch out as a micro-school. Maureen describes the different types of micro-schools.

[13:40] - The New York Times had an article about “the Montessori Mafia.” They have found that successful leaders and entrepreneurs began in a student-led educational environment.

[15:19] - Parents need to be more aware of their options when it comes to the education of their child. Most parents don’t know that micro-schools might be available in their area.

[16:15] - Maureen explains how public school teachers have their “hands tied” with legislated standards.

[17:06] - Karen and Maureen discuss the impact of a mentor model of education.

[18:08] - Learning takes place in a social environment with strong relationships. The relationships between teachers and students in a micro-school are strong.

[19:20] - When students use their own voice to make choices in their education, they become empowered and take those skills out into their adult life.

[20:08] - Maureen encourages parents to think about their own high school experiences. What do you remember? Maureen doesn’t remember the content. She remembers the experiences where she was engaged.

[21:23] - Karen reflects on her own experiences and she remembers the teachers and the relationships she had with them that made the difference.

[22:09] - In addition to leading her own micro-school, Maureen also wrote a guidebook on creating a micro-school, has created online courses, and now has masterminds for resources.

[24:32] - Maureen would love to see Google, Microsoft, and Apple work with educational leaders to work on breaking the current education system down until it is not the norm.

[25:45] - Karen and Maureen discuss the importance of collaboration especially with students with learning difficulties and Maureen shares how her micro-school teams work together with educational therapists to help all learners.

[27:05] - Oftentimes, interventions and extra support in public schools is isolated and not integrated into learning.

[28:08] - Maureen’s guidebook is called Creating Micro-Schools for Colorful, Mismatched Kids. Maureen describes what you would learn in this book.

[30:32] - The experience children have in school needs to be different than the experiences that their parents and grandparents had.

[32:06] - Dr. Wilson shares a quote on Maureen’s website that encompasses her work with micro-schools.

[33:31] - Sometimes the only mode of transportation is a leap of faith.

[34:28] - The norm needs to change. There are other options!

 

About Our Guest:

Dr. Maureen O’Shaughnessy is a career school innovator with over 30 years of transforming learning in schools to better serve all students. She is the founding director of Leadership Preparatory Academy, a nonprofit progressive micro-school in Washington State. With a master’s degree in educational administration and a doctorate degree in educational leadership, she has an extensive understanding of the components needed to transform the education system.

 

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