Destination Marketing Podcast (Brand Revolt)

In this episode, Adam sits down with Dave Harrell, President and CEO of Visit Quad Cities, at the Destinations International Annual Convention in Tampa, Florida. They discuss the importance of storytelling in destination marketing, the evolution of the Quad Cities' podcast "QC That's Where," and the significance of owned media in their marketing strategy. Dave shares a recent experience where a creative, humorous response to a public mention of the Quad Cities went viral, highlighting the power of authenticity and community engagement in shaping public perception and fostering civic pride. “I strongly believe that you've got a responsibility as a destination to make sure that you're reacting in a way that's true to who you are, and you can do it in a way that doesn't necessarily need to be so serious in terms of the tonal response.” -Dave Herrell Check out the viral video! Visit The Quad Cities If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam talks to John David, President and CEO of Sports ETA. The conversation highlights the organization's role in promoting sports tourism through education, advocacy, resources, and networking. John emphasizes the importance of listening to stakeholders and understanding the economic impact of sports tourism, which includes significant contributions to local economies and job creation. The episode underscores the potential for communities to benefit from investing in sports tourism infrastructure. “You can go build a new facility and certainly service your community at a very high level, or you can partner with tourism and build a facility that is national caliber. Monday through Thursday, you're putting your families, and your citizens on some of the best fields in the United States, and then it's paying for itself Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.” -John David Sports ETA If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast is a full-length look at Adam's keynote presentation at the Kentucky Travel Industry Annual Conference. In this keynote, Adam explores the media strategies of both candidates from this past presidential election and how Donald Trump was able to capitalize on podcast appearances during his campaign. The presentation then moves into the shifting landscape in destination marketing and how podcasting can be at the forefront. He also brings up some examples of Relic podcast clients that have been successful and how they've been beneficial to their DMOs. If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

The Destination Marketing Podcast is off for Christmas Eve, so instead of a new episode, we have a special holiday message from Adam! The Destination Marketing Podcast will return on Wednesday, January 1st with its 2025 New Year’s Resolutions episode and then go back to its regular Tuesday release schedule starting Tuesday, January 7th. If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Neil MacKenzie, the CEO of Yarmouth and Acadian Shores Tourism in Nova Scotia, joins Adam on today's episode to discuss the tactics and strategies that have helped his small destination stand out in larger markets like the Northeastern U.S. He also goes into his background and how the time that he and his wife spent in Japan teaching English became a part of how he got into travel. Later in the episode, Neil goes more in-depth on the unique tactics he's used to market his destination, such as providing photo content for Google Maps and leveraging the beautiful scenery his destination offers. "I've had those questions where they say, are you from Canada? Are you from Yarmouth and Acadian Shores, if we're in New York or something, and I'm like, yep, I live there. And then then they're like, here's my email address, I want more information. That's a great opportunity because they're literally standing in front of you telling you they want to come, right? So let's then take that next step and put some great content in front of them." - Neil MacKenzie Yarmouth and Acadian Shores If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam is joined by Nathaniel Sweetman, Sports Marketing Coordinator for Visit Sarasota County. Nathaniel shares his journey into sports marketing, emphasizing the importance of storytelling and community engagement. He discusses Sarasota's unique facilities, strategies for attracting niche events, and the economic impact of sports tourism. The episode highlights the role of personalized PR strategies and the power of compelling narratives in enhancing event visibility and fostering local support. “Try and tell the stories. I think sometimes some of our sporting events have some really cool, unique ties to them. You can come in and bring in 150 events and again, if not many people are aware of it or your stakeholders aren't even aware of it, it's not going to mean much at the end of the day.” -Nathaniel Sweetman If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

The satirical mockumentary "Borat" was released in 2006 to worldwide critical acclaim but in Kazakhstan, where the titular character hailed from, the film was more controversial. For the Borat sequel in 2020, Kairat Sadvakassov from Kazakh Tourism wanted to do things differently, so he capitalized on the character to increase awareness of Kazakhstan as a tourism destination, even co-opting Borat's famous catchphrase, "Very Nice!". Kaiarat joins Adam on today's episode to talk about how his gamble turned into a wildly successful tourism campaign for Kazakhstan. Here is some of the media coverage from the campaign: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/11/17/the-biggest-plot-twists-of-borat-2-occurred-off-screen/?sh=361db7cd7803 https://medium.com/digital-diplomacy/how-kazakhstan-turned-the-new-borat-film-in-its-favor-533144de3b6e https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kazakhstan-borat-ad-tourism-very-nice/ If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Today’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast continues our collaboration with Destination Discourse, a podcast recently launched by Adam along with Stuart Butler, the CMO of Visit Myrtle Beach. The second episode of Destination Discourse is a deep dive into branded entertainment. They emphasize the need for DMOs to adapt to the changing advertising landscape, especially with the rising costs of paid media. Later in the episode, Stuart pulls from his experience with Visit Myrtle Beach and touches on the impact that branded content like Traveling the Spectrum and Splish Splash Squawk has had on his organization and Myrtle Beach. Watch Destination Discourse on YouTube If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

On today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with Thomas Salley, the director of Great State of Wilkes, Tourism in North Carolina. Thomas joins the podcast in the wake of the impact of Hurricane Helene and he discusses his experiences with the storm and what role DMOs play when this kind of natural disaster takes place. He also provides important takeaways for other DMOs to use as a future reference when dealing with a natural disaster, such as the importance of reliable communication methods, establishing yourself as the travel spokesperson for your destination and building strong relationships with local government and emergency services. "I woke up Sunday morning after the storm had kind of come through, and I saw all these images and heard people saying, you know, we need all of these things, and just seeing the destruction, I knew I had to do something. So, I felt like in my role, what I could do was to go and be of service to my neighbors." - Thomas Salley Resources Mentioned in the Episode: Great State of Wilkes, Tourism: https://www.wilkescountytourism.com/ Hospitality Relief Workers Fund: https://www.ncrla.org/foundation/nc-hospitality-workers-relief-fund/ Visit North Carolina | State Tourism Director Wit Tuttell: wit.tuttell@visitnc.com State Government Emergency Fund: https://pay.payitgov.com/ncdonations and https://www.nc.gov/disaster-relief-fund-faqs State Hurricane Resource Page: https://www.ncdps.gov/our-organization/emergency-management/hurricane-helene https://www.visitnc.com/advisory/cAdA/hurricane-helene-travel-advisory If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast continues our yearly tradition of setting resolutions for the New Year. From ditching the reliance on paid media to preparing for the Department of Government Efficiency and more, these are crucial insights that destination marketers need to know heading into 2025. Aside from the resolutions themselves, one of the biggest reveals of the episode is that Relic will be rebranding to Brand Revolt and shifting its focus even more towards using content pillars to build communities around brands. "We really believe that the best strategy to build a future for the destination and to ensure the security of the future of the destination is to build a community around your brand and paid media centric strategies just don't do that." - Adam Stoker If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

On today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam sits down with Scott Oklin, the new CMO of Visit Anaheim. Scott talks about how he found his way into this role after working at Travelzoo and how he's looking to use that prior experience in his new role. He also touches on his goal to make Visit Anaheim into a lifestyle brand and capitalize on the destination's incredible events and attractions, such as the upcoming Olympics, World Cup, and Disneyland. Later in the episode, Scott discusses some of the big tourism initiatives already in motion at Visit Anaheim, such as their partnership with the Anaheim Ducks and economic development investments like OCVIBE.  "So we're really looking at it, I think, from this 360-degree holistic standpoint...it's nice and sexy to have your patch on a jersey, that's great. But how do you really have the impact of that in a tangible way?" - Scott Oklin Visit Anaheim If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

On this special episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam joins Dane Carlson as a guest on The Econ Dev Show to discuss the symbiotic relationship between destination marketing and economic development. They discuss how DMOs and economic developers can collaborate and improve on things like site visits to create positive memorable experiences. Adam and Dane also underscore the benefits of owned media and podcasting to their respective industries and the importance of creating valuable content for their respective audiences. The Econ Dev Show Listen to our previous episode with Dane Carlson! If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam sits down with Kristina Ainge, PR and Content Director at Relic. They talk about the changing landscape of social media and content marketing and why destinations need to pay attention to both micro and macro trends. With nearly a decade of experience in social media, PR, and influencer marketing, Kristina offers a treasure trove of insights on how to effectively engage audiences and build communities through content. If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com

In September of last year, Hurricane Helene devastated many parts of the world, with one of the most severely affected areas being the Southeastern United States. Spencer Bost, the executive director of Downtown Spruce Pine, joins Adam on today’s episode to share how he first experienced Spruce Pine as a park ranger and how that eventually led him to work for its DMO. He also highlights what makes Spruce Pine a great destination, from its variety of amazing restaurants to its outdoor recreation opportunities. Additionally, he discusses his community’s recovery efforts in the wake of Hurricane Helene and recounts some of his experiences in the storm's immediate aftermath. Downtown Spruce Pine If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam chats with Dave Parulo, President and CEO, and Claire Fisher, Chief Marketing Officer of Explore Tualatin Valley. Recorded live at the Destinations International Annual Convention in Tampa, Florida, they highlight the importance of community engagement in destination rebrands and talk about their experience with their recent rebranding experience. They also discuss the importance of data in decision-making and why it can be challenging to prove the ROI of a branding project to stakeholders. “We found that there was one name and one area, which is the Tualatin Valley which was used predominantly locally, and it was a leap of faith for us to look for a name that wasn't the exact destination name, but the one feature we could find to talk about.” -Dave Parulo Explore Tualatin Valley If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

For today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is on the road at the Kentucky Travel Industry Annual Conference. Hank Phillips, the President and CEO of the Kentucky Travel Industry Association, sits down with Adam to discuss the ways that this conference will reinforce foundational aspects of tourism and benefit destination marketers with any experience level. Adam and Hank also touch on Kentucky's steady recovery from the COVID-19 pandemic and the statewide collaboration between DMOs to invest expiring ARPA funds into the future of Kentucky tourism. "The whole point is that that collaborative energy and the pooling of regular funds going forward is going to keep a lot of those initiatives going into the out-years." - Hank Phillips Kentucky Travel Industry Association If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast is a conversation with James Tsismanakis, the Executive Director of Discover DeKalb. After discussing his background in tourism, James highlights how DeKalb has been using podcasting as a marketing tool for his destination to promote economic development, arts, culture and festivals. He tells the story of how a former student got him hooked on podcasting and reveals the successes, challenges and lessons he's learned while developing his destination's podcast. "So a lot of it is really when we start hearing that it was a good show hearing, 'I saw you on the show', hearing, 'oh, you got a big ego because, you know, you're on the podcast all the time and it's always video'. You know, that starts to say you're doing something right, I think." - James Tsismanakis Discover DeKalb If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam is joined by Glorianna Yamin, Vice President of Marketing for Discover Puerto Rico. Glorianna shares her career journey, discusses her recognition as one of Destinations International's 30 Under 30, and highlights Discover Puerto Rico’s innovative marketing initiatives, including a collaboration with Pantone to create a color called “Puerto Rico Sunshine." Glorianna also discusses other creative campaigns like "Sounds Like Puerto Rico" and future projects celebrating Puerto Rican heritage. If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast is the final episode of our collaboration with Destination Discourse, a podcast recently launched by Adam along with Stuart Butler, the CMO of Visit Myrtle Beach. Will Seccombe, the president of Revolution Strategy and a recurring guest on The Destination Marketing Podcast, joins Adam and Stuart on Destination Discourse to discuss the merits of taking risks and being innovative in the destination marketing space. They give their perspectives on the benefits of taking marketing risks to stand out in the industry and give out strategies for evaluating risky decisions in their professional lives. Watch Destination Discourse on YouTube If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Joining Adam on today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast is Natalie Wallon, the Marketing and Communications Manager at Discover Kalispell, Montana. Natalie shares her background and journey into destination marketing, with stops as a lacrosse coach in Montana and at an SEO agency along the way. Natalie and Adam then discuss Discover Kalispell's creative take on promoting responsible recreation with their "Treat it Like Grandma's House" initiative. She touches on what makes this campaign successful and how well the messaging of treating a destination like your grandmother's house works for information about recreating responsibly. Watch a Few "Treat it Like Grandma's House" Videos Here Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

As a small destination surrounded by large cities like Chicago and Indianapolis, Wabash County, Indiana needed to find a way to stand out when marketing its DMO in those cities. Christine Flohr, the Executive Director of Visit Wabash County, joins Adam on today's episode to talk about how she utilized different athletic events, such as the Dam to Dam Bike Ride, to do just that. She highlights how these events benefit visitors and locals alike and can drive visitors to want to move to Wabash County because of their positive experiences. Visit Wabash County If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

On today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam is still on-location at the Kentucky Travel Industry Annual Conference. Joy Brown, the executive director of Morehead-Rowan County Tourism in Kentucky, joins the show to discuss Morehead's appeal as a destination and a few ongoing tourism and economic development initiatives in the destination. She highlights how Morehead utilized its location within the Daniel Boone National Forest to drive economic development in their destination. Later in the episode, Joy also touches on a campaign that they're trying with a local airport and how they've been using an AI Tool to collect data points from the campaign. "We had to educate our local community and market that you might see somebody that might be a little scruffy when they come off the trail, but they have all their vacation money in their backpack and they're ready to spend it in our town." - Joy Brown Morehead-Rowan County Tourism If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Cody Chomiak from Travel Manitoba and Tom Loftus from Visit Richmond, Virginia join Adam on today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss various tourism topics. They give their perspectives on issues facing the destination marketing industry, such as navigating small budgets and discerning important metrics. The conversation then moves into a discussion about AI and how each person has embraced it in their professional lives. Stay tuned until later in the episode for an AI-driven musical treat. "If we're really wanting to be honest and we're really wanting to use data to inform decisions, we have to be skeptical of that data and also ask deeper questions so that we're not going in a direction that's going to lead us into disaster." - Cody Chomiak Travel Manitoba Visit Richmond, Virginia If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Métis Crossing is Alberta’s first major Métis cultural destination, offering visitors an immersive experience into Métis heritage, traditions, and ways of life. In this episode, Adam sits down with Juanita Marois, CEO of Métis Crossing, to discuss her journey in building this unique destination from the ground up. Juanita shares insights into the importance of Indigenous tourism, how it fosters cultural understanding, and why it plays a vital role in preserving the richness of Canadian history. Tune in to learn how Métis Crossing is creating meaningful connections between visitors and the Métis people through storytelling, education, and authentic experiences. Métis Crossing If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Video game competitions, or esports, are a growing industry that allows DMOs to grow their visitation and increase travel by inviting the esports community into their destinations. Ed Tomasi, an esports consultant for DMOs, Allister Scorgie, the Director of Sport Hosting at Explore Waterloo Region and Loren Gold, the Executive Vice President of the Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitors Bureau, join Adam for an in-depth conversation about the intersection between esports and destination marketing. Allister and Loren discuss how they started working with the esports community in their destinations and their connection with Ed. They also give a brief overview of esports and underscore the benefits of capitalizing on esports in your destination marketing strategies. "Every destination has an opportunity to be a trusted partner with the esports community, and it just first starts with identifying what you have to offer as a destination and matching it to that appropriate community that's there, but you may not have reached out to them initially." - Ed Tomasi PlayHRDR Explore Waterloo Region Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitors Bureau If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Tony Carne, a thought leader in AI and the creator of the Everything AI in Travel newsletter, joins Adam on today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast to discuss his background in the travel industry and how he fell in love with AI. Tony also touches on some AI-related things he's seeing in the international travel space, such as AI education opportunities and a company that creates personalized travel guides. He underscores how much AI can increase efficiency and shares his thoughts on how it can impact travel in the future. "The future of destination marketing, as I see it, can change significantly should the leaders in destination marketing choose to make that change. It's no longer, we can't do it because we don't have the resources or it's technically impossible, those pieces have gone away now. It's actually just, 'Do you want to or not?'" - Tony Carne Everything AI in Travel If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In today’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast, we continue last week’s conversation with The Utah Tourism Collective. Adam, Mo, Jason, AJ, and Sarah return to discuss some of the hottest topics in tourism as we head into 2025. With tightening budgets and increased scrutiny on DMO spending, it's up to us as marketers to demonstrate the value tourism brings to communities. Our guests also share what’s on the horizon for their companies, from new attribution models to a stronger focus on content and storytelling. Brand Revolt Bandwango Wander Ripe Zartico If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

In this episode, Adam Stoker and guest Bill Geist discuss a critical issue facing destination marketing organizations: a growing disconnect between boards, CEOs, and political stakeholders. They discuss the misalignment between boards and destinations, the impact of COVID-19 on the industry, and the importance of effective board orientation. Bill emphasizes a need for better communication, storytelling, and proactive strategies to foster understanding and support within DMOs. “You cannot explain what it is we do to somebody over lunch, there's just not enough time and it isn't professional. Orientation should be an all-hands-on-deck, 2 to 3 hour immersion in what we do because what we do, almost nobody out there understands.” -Bill Geist If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast has Adam sit down with Julie Kirkpatrick, the President and CEO of meetNKY, the host DMO of the Kentucky Travel Industry Annual Conference. They discuss the interesting dynamic of Julie's DMO in Covington, Kentucky bordering Cincinnati, Ohio and how she's been able to work together with her counterparts at Visit Cincy. Julie underscores the importance of collaboration over competition when working with DMOs in close proximity to each other and the common goals that her organization shares with Visit Cincy. "When we're going out and layering that media campaign, when we're buying programmatic, when we're buying search, when we're doing social, it's all geared towards one platform and it's one call to action and that's Visit Cincy. So you hit visitcincy.com and you're going to see the conjoined story of this region." - Julie Kirkpatrick meetNKY If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Kentucky is famous for its bourbon and on today's episode, Adam sits down with Mike Mangeot at the Kentucky Travel Industry Annual Conference to discuss how Kentucky is using bourbon tourism to grow its international market. As the Commissioner of the Kentucky Department of Tourism, Mike touches on the continued growth he's seen in Kentucky tourism and his upcoming initiatives. Later in the episode, Adam and Mike provide great insights into experimenting with marketing tactics and turning potential failures into positives. "Yeah, we are more than bourbon. We're a lot more than bourbon. But bourbon is going to get them here. And bourbon is going to create the buzz. It's Marketing 101, what's your unique selling proposition? What sets you apart from everybody? And again, it's part of the reason, as we talked about on the international front, why we're leading with bourbon." - Mike Mangeot Kentucky Department of Tourism If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Today's episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast brings together some of Utah's brightest minds in the destination marketing space: AJ Brau, the CEO of Wander, Mo Parikh, the CEO of Bandwango, Jason Linder, the CEO of Ripe, Sarah Lehman, the CEO of Zartico and of course, our host Adam Stoker, the CEO of Brand Revolt. Each leader reflects on what 2024 brought for their respective organizations and highlights the new things they're working on in 2025. Listen in for valuable insights on not just destination marketing and the tourism industry, but also a look from a CEO's perspective at running businesses like these. "So I'm not gonna, you know, sit here and say that it was the best year ever, that we grew and we tripled. It wasn't that. I'd characterize 2024 as a year of realignment and a year of pivoting the business to really be sustainable for the next 10 years into the future." - Mo Parikh Brand Revolt Bandwango Wander Ripe Zartico If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

South Carolina played a large role in the American Revolution and with some big historical anniversaries coming on the horizon in the next few years, the state is putting together an exciting project to commemorate its history while driving tourism and economic development in the process. Molly Fortune, the Executive Director of SC250, the organization in charge of this initiative, joins Adam on today's episode to discuss this project, collaborating with all 46 counties of South Carolina to build this initiative and a few of the interesting stories being highlighted by SC250. "Cross marketing actually builds a stronger infrastructure of which to have visitors cross state lines, cross county lines, cross international boundaries to hear the stories and to walk in those stories...because there is more than this box." - Molly Fortune SC250 If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Today’s episode of The Destination Marketing Podcast is a collaboration with Destination Discourse, a podcast recently launched by Adam along with Stuart Butler, the CMO of Visit Myrtle Beach. Starting today and over the next few weeks, we’ll be releasing the first three episodes of Destination Discourse as bonus episodes of The Destination Marketing Podcast. In the first episode of Destination Discourse, Adam and Stuart discuss AI’s role in destination marketing and what that could mean for travelers and DMOs. They also explore the evolving expectations of travelers, the importance of viewing destination marketing as more than just transactional, and how to ensure visitors get the most value from their trips. Watch Destination Discourse on YouTube If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam provides a mid-year check-in on the destination marketing industry. He emphasizes the importance of creativity and budget in differentiating destinations, highlighting successful marketing campaigns from Laguna Beach, Minnesota, and Myrtle Beach. Adam discusses the shift from traditional influencers to content creators and the need for dynamic marketing strategies. He also addresses the changing landscape of paid media, advocating for content-focused promotion to more effectively engage potential visitors. If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

Today’s special episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast is a webinar hosted by the One West Tourism Alliance that Adam took part in alongside some familiar faces who you might have heard from on previous podcast episodes. Joining Adam on this webinar is Robb Wells from Visit Beaufort, Port Royal and the Sea Islands, Melea Hames from Visit North Alabama and Stuart Butler from Visit Myrtle Beach. Each panel member shares their successes with creating owned content for their respective destinations, whether it be podcasts, TV shows or other types of media. Visit Myrtle Beach Visit Beaufort, Port Royal and the Sea Islands Visit North Alabama Brand Revolt One West Tourism Alliance If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

In this episode, Adam is joined live in the studio by AJ Brau, co-founder and CEO of Wander. She discusses the recent upgrades Wander has made to their technology and explains why it’s crucial for destinations to collaborate with vendors to drive industry innovation forward. Listen and learn how to own your visitor attribution using tools that capture valuable data directly from the source. Also discover what AJ envisions for Wander's future, including becoming the #1 platform travelers turn to when booking a trip. “We want to solve your problems. We don’t have the same insight into your life that you do, and that’s actually the most valuable thing we can gain from working with destinations—learning what their problems are so we can build better solutions for the entire industry.” – AJ Brau Wander Maps If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

A few years ago, Adam Stoker and Laurie Jo Miller Farr hosted the Travel Vertical Podcast, a biweekly look at news, trends and jobs in the destination marketing industry. While that podcast isn't releasing new episodes anymore, its spirit lives on within TourismIQ. Laurie is now the Editorial Director for TourismIQ, and she joins Adam on today's episode to discuss her background in the tourism industry and why she decided to reunite with Adam to work on TourismIQ. Laurie also highlights the variety of content offered by TourismIQ, such as job postings, industry news and thought leadership opportunities. "So, innovation in the destination marketing space is a shared aspect of our community, and it's one that I really treasure because it's unique." - Laurie Jo Miller Farr TourismIQ If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Becky Large, the Executive Director of the Champion Autism Network and the CEO of the Autism Travel Club, joins Adam on today’s episode to share her insights on autism-friendly travel and the strides she has made in making destinations more inclusive for autistic travelers. She showcases the initiatives she’s led for Visit Myrtle Beach, including the TV show "Traveling the Spectrum" and the destination’s autism certification. Becky and Adam also discuss how getting your destination autism-certified can benefit families who have children with autism and other autistic travelers. Champion Autism Network Autism Travel Club If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

Brandon Schexnayder, the founder of Southern Gothic Media, joins Adam on today's episode to talk about his podcast, which tells the ghost stories of various communities in the Southern United States. He details his background in the music industry, how he found his way into the podcasting space and what the initial stages were like in creating his podcast. He also discusses some of the most interesting stories he's told on his show and his work with DMOs to tell the ghost stories of their respective communities. Lastly, Brandon gives some insight into how he's been able to grow his podcast and the importance of collaboration in the podcasting space. "At the end of the day though, I have to say the biggest thing that you can do is be involved in the other community of podcasts, period. If you want to grow your show, if you want to grow your content, being involved with other content creators and building that community is going to grow more than anything." - Brandon Schexnayder Southern Gothic Media If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam talks with Dane Carlson, host of the Econ Dev Show and CEO of Site Hunt, about the crucial link between tourism and economic development. Dane shares his journey from blogging to economic development, including how he transformed Mariposa California by adding an escape room to the visitor center. Dane also emphasizes the importance of collaboration between economic developers and destination marketers to create meaningful visitor experiences and drive local economic growth.  The Econ Dev Show If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

In this episode, Adam sits down with Mark Marsiglio, President and CEO of Trail Pilot, to talk about the synergy between tourism and mountain biking. Mark discusses his background, the creation of the Trail Pilot app, and its role in enhancing the mountain biking experience through guided audio tours. Mark emphasizes the importance of targeting niche markets, such as mountain bikers, as they can be a valuable persona in a comprehensive destination marketing strategy. Trail Pilot If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services, please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@relicagency.com.

The popular mid-80s sitcom "The Golden Girls" taught its viewers many lessons about friendship and relationships but according to Kaitlyn Johnson, the Marketing and CRM Coordinator of the Pocono Mountains Visitors Bureau, the show also provided advice on having a great social media presence. Kaitlyn joins Adam on today’s episode to go over what each of the four Golden Girls can teach you about social media and how to apply those insights to your DMO’s social pages. Listen in for valuable insights from an unexpected source, such as Rose’s lessons in authenticity and Dorothy’s lessons on being more knowledgeable. Pocono Mountains Visitors Bureau If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Brand Revolt. If you are interested in any of Brand Revolt’s services, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com or visit www.thebrandrevolt.com. To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. If you are interested in joining the network, please email adam@thebrandrevolt.com.

In this Pilot episode, Adam Stoker and Jordan Barker introduce the Destination Marketing Podcast. They explain the purpose of the podcast and preview at a high-level. Topics include the importance of email marketing automation, the future of tourism marketing, marketing attribution for tourism, and why a podcast like the Destination Marketing Podcast needs to exist. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Kaitlin Eskelson from the Utah Tourism Association joins Adam and Jordan to talk navigating outside opinions in a marketing position, mistakes in marketing, and Kaitlin's take on the most important component of tourism marketing.  "The Travel and Tourism industry is moving so quickly, we're bound to make mistakes. A lot of what we do is trial and error and I think that, again, going back to that guest experience and having a little bit of humility, it's sometimes just saying 'sorry, we tried our best on that one, it didn't work but we've learned from it and can move forward', I think that's really what people are looking for and what marketing campaigns should be all about. Being authentic, but admitting to when you make a mistake"- Kaitlin Eskelson on making mistakes in marketing.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Mo Parikh from Bandwango joins Adam and Jordan to talk technology in tourism, how the Bandwango technology helps destinations, and how he thinks destinations can improve once a visitor arrives.  "You really need to get a deeper understanding of 'great, we did all these things, we drove people to our website, they engaged with our content, but really what happened after that? And it's always been this black box'"- Mo Parikh from Bandwango Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Matt Borud joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the 18 Summers Campaign, moving on from successful campaigns, and coming up with great campaigns that highlight what makes your destination unique.  "I actually think the campaign has made me a better father, and I don't know how many ad campaigns you can say that honestly have done that"- Matt Borud on the 18 Summers Campaign.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Lance Syrett, General Manager of Ruby's Inn, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about building local support as a destination, challenges and advantages of family businesses, and creating a great visitor experience.  "If a DMO person wants to get that buy-in from their partners, go see them. Go visit with them face to face, see what matters to them and act like you care." Lance Syrett on building support with local partners.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Brook Kaufman, CEO of Casper, Wyoming joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to talk rebranding. Topics include knowing when to rebrand, the most important components of a rebrand, and planning for the rollout.  "We have just been, in the last few years, in a place of trying to find some stability for our brand of Casper. So how do you just be 'Visit Casper'? How do we just go back to that and build some authority again and just some stability for either visitors or for our community?" Brook Kaufman on knowing when to rebrand.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Natalie Randall, Director of the San Juan County Utah Tourism Office, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about making changes in a traditional market. Topics include bringing new ideas and initiatives into a county, the Make it Monumental campaign, and how to handle the different situations she has encountered with stakeholders in San Juan County.  "Trying to get the stakeholders involved- that's always the challenge. In the marketing arm of things, we're always looking to the consumer... We're doing a really great job at helping them, doing outreach to them, getting them interested, and capturing their attention, but so often we forget to capture the attention of our locals that live in the area that are going to be impacted by what we're doing".- Natalie Randall on challenges in her role. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Falyn Owens, Executive Director of the Garfield County Tourism Office joins the Destination Marketing Podcast. Topics include the Take Your Time campaign, maintaining a good relationship with hotel partners, and effective customer service within destinations. "I don't think people realize that sometimes tourism funds, especially in our county- search and rescue, the ambulance, trash collection, so tourists minimize a lot of the financial impact on the locals... It's important for people to understand so they know they need to treat our visitors the best they can." Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Josh Collins from Streetsense joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about technology tools to enhance destination marketing. Topics include under-utilized tools, cost-effective technologies for lower-budget destinations, and the importance of email marketing.  "(Permission) is such a key way of thinking about email: Here's this real person that gave me permission, so I need to treat that with the respect and the trust that deserves. What you see is that cost per acquisition versus the lifetime value of that person- there's just no comparison to any other channel on the planet. The return from email is easily 150 to 1 greater than what you see on social, or display, or programmatic, or whatever other channel you want to talk about"- Josh Collins on email marketing.    Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Cody Adent joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about building a tourism ecosystem. Topics include the Southern Utah Tourism Conference and the challenges of putting a conference together, lessons in customer activity from Zionnationalpark.com, and the importance of good web design and presentation.  "We don't have an overcrowding issue, we have a distribution problem. It's not that we have too many people coming, it's that we have too many people coming to the same place. So if we were to spread them out in a more efficient manner, you wouldn't even know that the park is crowded." -Cody Adent Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Hope Stokes, Director of Brand Management for Amarillo, Texas, Joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk attribution for a small destination. Topics discussed include using Adara to help make marketing decisions, the value of data in marketing, and useful free technologies for a small destination. "Any time we do anything, we want to make an informed decision- it's never a good idea in marketing to say 'I like this, this is pretty, let's do it'- you need to have some sort of data backing it up".- Hope Stokes on the importance of data in marketing decisions. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Lesha Coltharp, the Executive Director of the Tourism Office in Vernal, Utah, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about navigating a unique tourism economy. Topics include unique challenges of Uintah County, the Origin of Adventure campaign, and finding ways to benefit off the pass through tourist.  "We're taught that you need to have something that draws the customer in- it doesn't matter if it's in the travel industry, clothing, perfume, food- it doesn't matter what it is. You have to have something that draws the customer to your product"- Lesha Coltharp Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Adam Stoker talks about highlights from the first 12 episodes of the Destination Marketing Podcast, recaps some of his favorite insights from guests, and looks forward to the future guests of the show.  "You don't get to control the perception of your brand- It's the sum of all of those touch points together...as we think about a destination brand, so many people think that it's just the marketing component." - Adam Stoker on the importance of a well-rounded destination experience.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Jim Eustace from Bound joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk website personalization in destination marketing. Topics include A/B testing on your website, knowing when it's time to personalize your website, and personalization and A/B testing for conventions and events.  "I think the first question is: Is your website important? Do you drive traffic to your website? Do you believe that potential visitors come and research before they make a decision to visit your market?" Jim Eustace on knowing when to personalize your website. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Co-host Jordan barker joins the Destination Marketing Podcast as a guest for the first time. Topics include maximizing technology in a tourism marketing role, a rundown of attribution, and the value of testing and learning. "Yes we have a lot of great tools that will help you track the effectiveness of your marketing spend, and that's absolutely the way we should go...the caveat is that there are certain marketing channels that are hard to quantify precisely, so make sure you don't make that mistake of falling so in love with all of the digital channels and forgetting about all the other mechanisms that are out there"- Jordan Barker on the importance of not falling in love exclusively with digital channels in marketing. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Amrita Gurney, VP of Marketing for Crowdriff, Joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about content. Topics include the importance of content for destination marketers, keeping content current, and the Crowdriff platform.  "I think there are two or three themes that are coming up that are challenges that we know people face: one is continuing to get smarter about the way they work. We know that DMOs are struggling with all the content, and channels, and budgets so (we're) helping people connect more with insights that they can use"- Amrita Gurney on how the Crowdriff platform helps Destination Marketers stay on top of content.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Ryan Starks, Director of the Tourism Office for Heber Valley, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the relationship between economic development and tourism. Topics include being creative with fundraising, public private partnerships, and the positives of a good relationship between economic development and tourism.  "At the county and the city level, there are so many opportunities to connect the dots between tourism and economic development. They really should work hand in hand because tourism is a great form of economic development... Tourism is really the welcome mat to business". - Ryan Starks Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Aileen Ramos, Director of the Tourism office for Laredo, Texas, joins the Destination Marketing podcast to talk Authenticity and Branding. Topics include telling your own story as a destination, taking control of the narrative around your destination, and unique challenges of a border town.  "For us, we found the best way to get our message through is bringing people to the destination. We know that once they get here, they see what we're all about and they see the real Laredo". - Aileen Ramos Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Lane Tucker, Operations Manager for Eagle Point resort, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk key partnerships between ski resorts and destinations. Topics include working with other businesses in a destination, challenges DMOs need to be aware of to support a ski resort, and successful tactics to divert traffic from Southern California resorts. "It's hard for a DMO, being the county, to be fair with everybody. You also need to lean on your largest assets. So spreading that stuff out proportionately is something that I think sometimes goes unnoticed because everyone is trying to be fair to everybody but that's not always the correct way to do the promoting."- Lane Tucker on a good partnership between ski resorts and DMOs.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Jim Bartoo, Director of Marketing for the Nashville Zoo, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk Destinations and Zoos. Topics include the relationships between the Nashville Zoo and the DMO, cooperative marketing efforts, and how to tie an attraction into the overall destination experience. "You can share information with people, they'll pick it up and they'll share it with other people as well. Or they'll come to the zoo, experience that brand, and share it with other people. So you reach these audiences by delivering your brand and sending out your message and giving people something they can talk about"- Jim Bartoo Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Dave Williams joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk destination marketing at the state level. Topics include the Mighty 5 Campaign, the state programs Utah offers to its DMO partners, and tips for DMOs to work better with state partners. "To be able to go from one park to the next just felt like a point of differentiation that nobody else had. And rather than try to be all things to all people, we thought that would get people looking at Utah and get Utah on the map; and once they were interested in the Mighty 5 and went to our website or other websites, they would see all the other amazing things to do around the state"- Dave Williams on the Mighty 5 Campaign.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Colby Remund, Chief Creative Officer at Relic, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk Design Principles. Topics include style guides, mistakes in destination marketing creative, and design principle basics. "Be practical in your approach to developing a style guide. Make sure that your needs are covered in how the style guide is prepared and then hopefully it gives you the foundation moving forward that will minimize the confusion and kind of clear up your brand, paving the way for the future".  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Host Adam Stoker records remotely in this quick update episode. Topics include a Texas Tourism Industry Association Conference recap, a life update for Adam, and an introduction to the Destination Marketing Podcast producer, Kyle.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Leif Pettersen, renowned P/R expert and juggler, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk Public Relations for Destination Marketers. Topics include taking risks in P/R, creating urgency for the media, and common P/R mistakes destinations make. "If it makes you a little bit nervous, it's probably gonna be great...draw the line at panic. If you start to panic, probably a bad idea. But anywhere between 'I'm bored', and 'a little nervous', you're going in the right direction" - Leif Pettersen on taking risks in P/R. Leif's books: https://www.amazon.com/Backpacking-Dracula-Impaler-Vampire-Inspired-ebook/dp/B01EXAF1LU https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1730712266/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i1 Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Chris Spendlove joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk tradeshows. Topics discussed include the value of tradeshows, useful tools for destination marketers, and the need to get your destination's foundational branding elements cemented. "This is who we're trying to talk to, this is the list of our unique value propositions that we've identified, let's map these value propositions to the needs of each persona. And then you can start building out messaging, then you can start building out advertising campaigns and from the information you've gathered, you'll know what their watering holes are. Or if you don't, an agency partner will." - Chris Spendlove on the importance of knowing your destination's foundational branding elements. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Jess Darington, social media manager and influencer joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk social media management. Topics include lessons learned working as a social media influencer, how to choose and work with influencers effectively, and the importance of organic social media. "I'm a firm believer in organic social media instead of just boosting posts or paid promotions. Because the purpose of organic social media - one of the major purposes - is to create a communication with your audience. And if you're just paying for ads, it doesn't really create that authentic dialogue that you need between a destination and the potential visitors." - Jess Darrington on the importance of organic social media. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Stephanie Weeks, Social Media Marketing Specialist for Visit Plano, TX joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about Social Media for destinations. Topics include the social media budget, the growth of full-time social media managers in destinations, and the importance of a content calendar. "The social media budget is a really important tool and should be increased every year. If you have a full-time social media manager managing that budget as it grows every year and as digital gets more and more important and print is less and less... having somebody manage that and know what they're doing- it's really important to give them the tools." - Stephanie Weeks on the importance of the social media budget for a destination Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Tom Love joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk branding a destination. Topics include the definition of a brand, touchpoints you can and cannot control, and how to evaluate those touchpoints. "I think for not only destinations, but really for all products and all categories, the brand is the single most important asset you have. It's the most valuable asset a company has next to its employees. And how people perceive you, how they value you, is gold to companies and to destinations." - Tom Love on the importance of branding.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Kevin Wright from Travel Oregon joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk going against the grain. Topics include the new Travel Oregon campaign, the media distribution plan around it, and healthy collaboration with an agency.  "We wanted to position Oregon as a place where people could find happiness. This idea that people are overworked, they're stressed, the 24 hour news cycle, trying to keep up with your email and all of that - we felt it was just weighing on people... We felt we were well-positioned to almost be the antidote to what was stressing people out." - Kevin Wright on the Travel Oregon campaign.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Brie Timings joins The Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about influencer marketing and video content. Topics discussed include researching influencers, creating good video content, and being comfortable in front of the camera.  "Does their content actually resonate with my destination or my brand? Are they a partier and they're just trying to go to party scenes? Am I a party destination and does that resonate with me?" - Brie Timings on matching up influencers with your destination.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

John Ricks, Nebraska Tourism Director joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk risks worth taking. Topics discussed include the home run Nebraska Tourism campaign, having the guts to run with a risky idea, and benefiting from earned media.  "We knew right from the get go that rather than just informing the public, that we had a real perception problem here and that we had to define and go after changing these perceptions" - John Ricks on the thought process behind the Nebraska Tourism campaign.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Will Seccombe, President and CEO of Connect Travel, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the importance of continuous learning. Topics discussed include changes Will has seen over the decades he's been in the industry, evolving as the times change, and the marketplace format at Connect Travel conferences.  "We're at a place in time where the successful programs of just a few years ago are no longer going to be relevant in the next 3 to 5 years. So if I can help all destination marketers think that way and work that way and learn from each other as they're exploring and coming up with new ideas, we'll all be better off". - Will Seccombe on the importance of constantly innovating in tourism marketing.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Sasha Jackson, Media Director at Relic, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk planning traditional media. Topics include the role of print in the traditional media landscape, buying for tourism clients, and current trends in the TV/Streaming landscape.  "You're already investing in traditional media- do it right and invest enough so it is profitable. Even if you are investing but it's a smaller amount and your frequency is low, I don't think it's going to benefit you like you would want it to. So choose one if you have to, but do it right" - Sasha Jackson on planning good media buys.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Chris Fair, President & CEO of Resonance, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the World's Best Cities and premier the new list. Topics discussed include the methodology for the World's Best Cities rankings, the core six categories, and focusing on the customer experience in your destination.  "We tend to think 'more is better'. We've been conditioned to attracting more visitors, and all the metrics by which we're generally judged are quantitative. I think there's a real lack of understanding or appreciation for the qualitative side of the destination side. I think to date, we would all agree the customer experience or the visitor experience is important, but we don't know how to measure it. And that's really what we're trying to address here." - Chris Fair on focusing on other factors than just the quantitative side of things.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

As the new year begins, Adam Stoker lays out some New Year's resolutions for destination marketers. Topics include updating technologies, evaluating customer experience, and honing in your target personas.  "I want you to give each touchpoint within your destination a letter grade...give yourself a letter grade and the goal is collectively with all your touchpoints to raise your grade one letter grade". -Adam Stoker on evaluating your touchpoints for 2020. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Josh Scheer, Digital Marketing Director at Relic, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about Simpli.fi, a localized programmatic display advertising platform. Topics include using Simpli.fi for advanced Geo-targeting and Geo-fencing in tourism marketing, use cases of such targeting, and how it differs from other display ad methods.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Stephanie Jones, Founder & CEO of the Cultural Heritage Alliance for Tourism, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk cultural heritage tourism. Topics discussed include tapping into cultural heritage tourism, understanding if your destination has a market for cultural heritage tourism, and the benefits of such tourism.  "Through our tours, we change a lot of those negative perceptions about heritage neighborhoods or under served communities because people now have walked the community and they've interacted with the locals so they know 'Oh I could come back here on my own and have dinner at this restaurant', and oftentimes, many people do" - Stephanie Jones on the benefits of cultural heritage tourism.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Jonathan Freeze, Director of Marketing and Communications at the Greater Raleigh Convention and Visitors Bureau joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk Tourism Master Plans. Topics include the process of creating a master plan, selecting a partner for such a plan, and rolling out the plan to your stakeholders.  "Be sure to make it a county or a destination wide plan and not just a CVB plan...I think with the comprehensive level of the things that will be talked about in the final report there has to be more organizations involved than just the CVB" -Jonathan Freeze on things to consider in a Tourism Master Plan.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Chris Pokorski, Manager of Community Relations for the Detroit Metro Convention & Visitors Bureau, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about marketing an icon of America. Topics discussed include past and current campaigns, building a great partnership with Travel Michigan, and using digital marketing to help identify personas. "When it comes down to it, people make your destination. And that's what has really helped Detroit turn around, come back, and move forward is the people here being so passionate." - Chris Pokorski on understanding your key assets   Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Bill Geist from DMOproz (and host of the DMOU Podcast) joins the Destination Marketing Podcast. Topics discussed include his experience in Madison, Wisconsin, Destinations International, and his vision of the future of Destination Marketing. "The political side is crucial because we have to figure out how public money can match up with private money so that we can make the case that this is a great place for quality of life, entrepreneurs, and yeah - visitors" - Bill Geist on the expanding role of Destination Marketers in the public eye.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Carla Pendergraft, Director of Marketing at Waco, Texas, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about dealing with a sudden tourism change. Topics include the impact of Fixer Upper and Chip and Joanna Gaines, catching up with an influx of visitors, and how Waco has benefitted from those new visitors.  "The main thing that they help us with is they talk about their love of Waco and convey that to the world. Because of that, people have come to this town and really see it as a tourist destination. Maybe even the most important thing is that locals are starting to look at their town in a more positive way too". - Carla Pendergraft on the impact of Chip and Joanna Gaines on Waco.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Randi Morritt, Director of Marketing at Aurora, Colorado, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about significant growth and opportunity in a destination. Topics include the Gaylord Rockies Resort, maintaining the inherent local culture, destination partnerships and customizing the visitor experience. "All of our success has really been a proactive approach so if you're constantly waiting for the next hotel renovation or a cool restaurant to open or your city council to change over, I think you're really behind the eight ball in making that change happen because as ... unlikely as it sounds it really can start with one person." – Randi Morritt on the importance of proactivity as a destination marketer. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Adam briefly introduces a new opportunity that destinations can choose to be involved with. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Cassandra Vasquez, Manager of Digital Marketing at Branson, Missouri, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the process of changing the perception of Branson to be an exciting family destination. Topics include brand positioning/messaging, the benefits of a warm and hospitable community, effective digital strategies, audience testing, and partnering with public figures or influencers to see significant impact. "Make sure that you got back to your strategies whether it's behind a computer screen or it's shaking someone's hand out in the community ... that you can really show how much you care as a bureau, especially to the community members and business partners.". - Cassandra Vasquez on the importance of being proactive and embracing your roll in the community as a destination marketer. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Kim Sidoriak, Chief Marketing Officer at Santa Monica CVB, joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about also having the distant future in mind when approaching research and planning for your destination. Topics include brand perception studies, extensive research tactics, social media sentiment analyses, and experience management. "So we want to look at the various places that we want visitors to explore and get to and make sure that that experience is fun, safe, easy and maybe even an experience unto itself." – Kim Sidoriak on the their approach at the Santa Monica CVB. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Andi Thoreson, Marketing Director at Fargo, North Dakota joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the opportunities and challenges of having a destination that is well-known for being the setting for the 1996 film Fargo. Topics include the true experience of Fargo, the Silicone Prairie, the wood chipper, having a dedicated visitor experience manager and understanding how to capitalize on the misconceptions from the film and using them as a benefit to help the destination and the goals of the CVB. "People want experiences, they want to really dive into a community and what separates it. I mean at this point I don't know if there's a city in the world that doesn't have breweries and murals so it's what can you do and what can you create that's unique to your destination." – Andi Thoreson on really understanding what makes your destination unique. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Recorded live from the Connect Travel Leadership Summit in Orlando, Florida, Adam discusses a new technology product with Jason and Mark from RootRez. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Robb Wells, President & CEO at Greater Beaufort - Port Royal Convention and Visitors Bureau joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about the challenges of being a smaller destination surrounded by larger ones with more budget. Topics include exceeding visitor expectations, being authentic, relying on people to tell your story for you, and utilizing really accurate targeting to find those who are truly looking for a unique experience. "What a rewarding career to be able to come to work and do something that is fulfilling, both for the local economy but also for me personally. I like to go to work and have a good time and be very positive and this industry can present some very positive outcomes." – Robb Wells on having a positive experience being a destination marketer. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Adam gives his thoughts and recommendations on navigating the impact of COVID-19 for your destination. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

In this bonus episode, Adam discusses some of the resources available to small business during this time of economic uncertainty.  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Nick Povalitis, Vice President of Marketing & Sports Development at Rockford Area CVB joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about teaming up with a young NBA champion to better solidify Rockford Illinois as the go-to sports events destination. Topics include collegiate athletics, sports business, the most miserable cities in the U.S., the contributions of Fred VanVleet in marketing the destination, and doing more with less. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

In this bonus episode, Adam discusses some strategies for destinations to help their stakeholders through this time of uncertainty in the tourism industry  Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Matthew Godfrey, former mayor of Ogden Utah and CEO of See Source joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how to use data collection effectively in our ever changing world. Topics include the importance of data for destinations, the unique capabilities of See Source regarding this data, and how we can better use data during the ever changing Coronavirus pandemic. “Take a long term perspective. Don't get panicked. Be optimistic because things will get better and those who have success, are those who will make plans and move forward." -Matthew Godfrey on the importance of data in the tourism industry during the Coronavirus pandemic. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Jessica McClellan from Mesquite Texas  joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how to use partnerships and tools strategically when promoting a destination. Topics include leveraging tools to accomplish things that are usually difficult for smaller destinations, as well as time management skills when managing both strategy and vision. “The one thing that I know for sure is to learn to embrace change. Life is a rollercoaster. Put your hands up and enjoy the ride and I would say for all the DMO's out there, embrace change because the next 5 years in our industry, that's all we're going to see: Change rapidly and back to back. " -Jessica McClellan on the importance of embracing change in the ever-changing destination marketing industry. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Matthew Landkamer of the Coraggio Group joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk about how to engage stakeholders in rural destinations. Topics include strategies on how to best engage stakeholders, exploring the Collective Impact Model, as well as measuring stakeholder engagement over time. “I see way too many DMO's get a little too focused on we've got our city boundary, we've got our county boundary, we can't promote anything outside that... You are stronger together. Visitors do not care about geopolitical boundaries."  -Matthew Landkamer on the importance of working with those around you to promote your destination Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

Carrie Di Guido from Dana Point California joins the Destination Marketing Podcast to talk her experiences breaking into the destination marketing industry. Topics include how partnerships can be beneficial when starting out, as well as advice on how to approach destination marketing from the visitor's perspective.  "As destination marketers,  I think it’s very important for us to know the people on the front lines, and the people that are interacting with the visitors, and just to make sure that those people know what a destination marketing organization does. Collecting their feedback is sometimes even more important.” - Carrie Di Guido on the importance of key people understanding the purpose of a DMO. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

In this bonus episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Adam and Josh discuss the state of the industry and opportunities for DMOs in this strange time. Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network. 

In this episode of the Destination Marketing Podcast, Matt Clement from Arrivalist joins us to discuss the ever-expanding field of attribution and data in destination marketing. Topics include handling attribution in the tourism industry, balancing brand awareness and last-click attribution, as well as some details about Arrivalist and how it can be useful to destination marketers. “I mentioned this is the golden age of having data available, and that is true. We have never had so much available to us as destination marketers, but we have to be careful. You have to be prudent.” – Matt Clement on the importance of being careful with the data that we have access to. To check out Arrivalist, click here Follow the Destination Marketing Podcast on social media: Instagram Twitter YouTube TikTok If you’re enjoying the show, please leave us a rating and review on Apple Podcasts! Subscribe to our newsletter! The Destination Marketing Podcast is a part of the Destination Marketing Podcast Network. It is hosted by Adam Stoker and produced by Relic. If you are interested in any of Relic’s services,  please email adam@relicagency.com or visit www.relicagency.com.  To learn more about the Destination Marketing Podcast Network and to listen to our other shows, please visit www.thedmpn.com. Email adam@relicagency.com with any inquiries regarding the network.