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In our interview with Bob Goff a couple of weeks ago, he said something that stuck out to us

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Tyler has been on his soapbox for the better part of a year talking about how technology isn't the solution to all of the issues in the construction industry. 
During our time at CURT, we met AJ, who is the Vice President of Industry Solutions at InEight. Funny enough, though he's a technologist in the industry, he agrees with us about Tech not being the answer. 
This is a great reality check for everyone and we know you'll love the conversation.

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Discipline or regret. It’s one or the other.    Tyler shares his morning routine and the challenges of consistency, and we discuss how much harder it is to start a new routine than to maintain an existing one.   Life, especially family life, doesn’t lend itself to consistency.   Discipline is uncomfortable for a time, but regret can last a long, long time.   Discipline=freedom.    By the way, if you’re wondering who Blippi and Meekah are (from Tyler’s morning Dad routine), you can check them out here. Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's episode of Five Minute Friday, Eddie talks about delegated design and why it is a concern in the construction industry.
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Arash is an e-permitting advocate based out of Toronto, Canada. He has created a network of businesses, builders, owners, and architects that are pushing for the ability to approve building permits through PDF documents and from the model. E-permitting would allow for automation to be increased in checking requirements and codes and speed up the overall process from design to build. He brings some awesome insight to what we hope the future of permitting can look like in America!
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We talk to the founder of Dusty Robotics! Tessa brings insights into how CAD drawings have more use cases than we currently use them for and has designed a robot that takes these drawings and prints them on a site. While Tyler draws up his BattleBot, Tessa talks about how humanitarian issues created a desire to enter the robotics field and find creative ways to help people. Designated as a Chief Robot Whisperer, Tessa’s goal is to create robots that can do the things we can’t or don’t want to do. Related Links:
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Being a good parent is hard. Justin Batt, the founder of the Daddy Saturday Foundation, joins us for a conversation about how to be an intentional parent. He gives tips for how to create one on one moments with your children, and what to do now that most of them are home from school. We also wanted to help you out and give you some April Fools pranks you can pull on those unsuspecting family members.
Related Links Justin Batt's LinkedInDaddy SaturdayTeam Girl DadDaddy Saturday’s InstagramDaddy Saturday’s Facebook"Get Out of Your Own Way" by Dave Hollis"The Power of Habits" by Charles Duhigg"The Power of Moments" by Chip and Dan HeathApril Fools Ideas
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“When one door closes, another one… Well, it doesn’t necessarily open unless you have it programmed that way.” This is the kind of portal-related wisdom that Benji Bolick and Mia Merrel bring to the table, and it’s why we asked them to join us today.   People don’t generally think about doors unless they fail to function properly. Doors are just 1-3% of the construction cost, but they cause a huge percentage of the construction headaches. There is so much involved in the way doors play into security, access, and design.   Benji shares the backstory to his door doorkdom. He discusses the school-guard glass demo video (similar to this one).   We discuss the peace of mind that doors give us (although, as Tyler points out, it might not be quite as much as a 20-gauge under your bed).     The door fails that stand out most to Benji are the ones that disregard or violate building codes. He shares about the events that led to the requirement for egress doors to be open outward.     Mia and Benji list some recent trends in doors: 

• Single-occupancy restrooms with vacancy indicators 
• Wireless doors on short-term rentals 
• Smart garage doors that enable owners to check door status from their phones
• Intumescent foam as a fire-prevention door filler 
• Blast-rating requirements on military bases

  We explore the central role doors play in the path of egress from any building–something which of course becomes incredibly important in the case of a fire or other emergency.    Benji explains the importance of doors in preventing building damage from tornadoes and hurricanes. Mia refers to tests like this one that simulate the forces of such storms.     Mia talks through the testing procedures, and Tyler tries to persuade her to take a demotion to return to her job in the testing lab.    ADA compliance is arguably the most significant factor in doors over the last few decades, so we discuss its effects on door design. Although these measures are required by code only on public buildings, Mia explains the benefits of considering ADA design features in homes.    We discuss the fact that architects are sometimes annoyed by doors but that door-design must be considered very early in the process in order to ensure full functionality and code compliance. Benji and Mia have whole teams who consult on these issues with architects, designers, and contractors. Benji mentions the Norman door. (See a journalist complain about it here and then track down the original Norman.)   Benji shares a nightmare story about the Luxor hotel that incurred a million dollars in extra last-minute door-related cost overruns due to a single error repeated a couple thousand times.    Megaphone Messages: 

• Benji: Contractors, if you value-engineer something, please don’t value-engineer the hardware. There are a lot of design and accessibility issues involved there. You want people to have a strong handshake with your building.
• Mia: If you have questions about how to install something, call somebody who knows what they’re doing.

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It's not quite what it sounds like, but it's just as cool.   Angie Simon, former CEO of Western Allied Mechanical, joined us last year to talk about baseball analogies that can strengthen your construction game. Today she’s here to talk about an exciting youth-oriented construction-recruiting program that came up in that conversation: the Heavy Metal Summer Experience.    (Before we get to the substance of Angie’s visit, we discuss one of the best recent construction-related movies, Lego Movie. If you haven’t seen it, you really, really should regardless of your age.)    Right out of the gate, Angie shares with us some amazing growth numbers about the HMSE program:

• First year: 1 location and 28 kids 
• Second year : 11 locations and 170
• Third year: 22 locations and 400 kids

  This program is designed for kids who are approaching high school graduation and don’t want to go to college. Angie explains that the 30 hours of hands-on experience that this program beats the pants off of a simple booth at a career fair.    She sees kids quickly become excited about sheet metal work, welding, and more.    Angie outlines the elements of the of the program in the order:

• A discussion about the importance of safety
• A tour of the shop
• Discussion about construction models (BIM, etc.)  
• Hands-on work with sheet metal, pipe fitting, soldering
• Programming of a sheet metal laser
• Hands-on work with electrical (new this year)

  Tyler shares about his visit to the Allied Mechanical shop and mentions that construction is the new Silicon Valley.    Angie talks about the significance of word-of-mouth in the recruiting game. She shares about a pair of brothers and a friend who all came for mock interviews.    Eddie asks Angie to talk about her HMSE playbook. This book dramatically reduces the load for hosts by compiling all kinds of useful information: 

• Forms (permission slips, content-release forms, etc.)
• Permits
• Instructions for several projects
• Lessons learned from past sessions
• A detailed schedule

  Angie shares that several students have been hired by contractors directly from these summer programs. She shares a story about a student who had been dealing with depression before starting the HMSE program. That student is now in her second year of apprenticeship.    Eddie talks about the value of this sort of training opportunity for the trainers–increased pride and purpose. Angie talks about the challenges of growing the program with a combination of paid people and volunteers.    Angie’s megaphone message: It’s not about your butt-crack plumber anymore. No, actually that’s not her megaphone message, but it is something she said. Here’s what she really said: It’s our industry. We made the industry, so we need to take responsibility for it. Get the word out there about how great the trades can be. We need to share our stories about the secret of a great life in the trades.    Find Angie Online: LinkedIn -  Heavy Metal Summer Experience   Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Robert Salvador is the CEO and co-founder of DigiBuild, a construction management software based out of blockchain technology. We get educated on what blockchain is, how it works, and how it empowers its users. Robert grew up in construction, and we really felt that from him! Robert wants to bring trust into the construction industry by building it into the software. With “built-in trust”, the hope is to reduce the amount of time and money spent on getting and verifying information.
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Nobody likes a parasite. (Well, maybe Kelly Kapoor) When was the last time you asked yourself about parasites in your life?  We’re not talking about people. We’re talking about habits.  Maybe alcohol? Maybe social media (for sure social media)?  Maybe there are some activities that simply trigger anxiety for you but somehow still suck you back in.  Identify those and be ready for us to talk next week about “barricading” them.  And no, a remora is not a parasite. Eddie is correct. That relationship is symbiotic.  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode is complete chaos, but we hope you enjoy it nonetheless.  Our other brother, Andy, joined us in the podcast booth during Thanksgiving week to tell childhood stories about ourselves. Growing up in a house full of boys means there is a lot of action happening under one roof and a ton of crazy stories. So kick back in your comfy pants and enjoy.
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Our guest, Lee Evey, was the program manager of the Pentagon Renovation from 1997 - 2002. When Lee arrived on the Pentagon project, it was in chaos. He tells us about how he got offered the job, his first day on site, and how he was able to rally the troops around one singular purpose. Here are some facts about the project -  - $1.22 Billion budget from congress to renovate all 5 wedges of the pentagon - 25,000 people working in the building, who could not be disturbed. - 4,000,000 lbs of asbestos per wedge - A national tragedy happened on site. You’re going to hear very little from us during this interview. We were so interested in what he was saying, we just let Lee go and tell us what he wanted to tell us. When you get in a room with someone like Lee -- You shut up and listen. 
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What does love and being neighborly have to do with the construction industry? We welcome Pete Dumont, the CEO of PrairieDog Venture Partners. Pete is a leader in the OS 2.0 ideology, whose goal is to get rid of waste in the industry. This starts in insurance, delaying pay, and other forms of overused safety nets that create frozen funds. The next step is to create healthy external relationships. Pete talks about the two most unhealthy business relationships and what OS 2.0 is pushing towards. To start fostering these relationships now, OS 2.0 has looked outside the industry to find inspiration in smart contracts and blockchain. Related Links:  Prairie Dog’s Website CII’s OS 2.0 Please consider subscribing!  SUBSCRIBE!
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Losing your temper happens to the best of us. Recently, Eddie lost his temper. Hilariously it happened right after he taught everyone how to deal with conflict, but never mind that. We're covering this topic to remind everyone that mistakes happen and we should always be working to improve how we deal with other people.  Just because we teach it, doesn't mean we're the best at it, though.
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We talked live at the CURT Keynote this past week about the importance of data-rich procurement. We wanted to explore how removing unknown variables from the bidding process cuts cost for both the owner and for the fabricators. We explore simple tricks to maintain productivity while cutting overhead. We also discuss the only way we see this working in the long run, and it could create upset in the industry to companies who are just lining their pockets instead of being a value-add to the industry. Related Links
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Today we are re-airing a 5 Minute Friday from this past April. Even if you’re not a particularly religious person, you’ve probably heard the Bible verse that inspires today’s episode: "Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends." The best leaders are those who give themselves up for the good of others. People respond to that sort of leadership.  If your primary motivation in the workplace is to promote and protect yourself, people will not line up behind your vision. Leadership requires respect for others. It requires you to empathize with those you’re trying to lead and putting their interests before your own.  Eddie shares a metaphor of a full-to-the-brim cup. If you fill your mind with positivity and thoughtfulness, that’s what will splash out when you’re bumped by challenging circumstances.  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do you love the undo button as much as us? This week we are talking about mistakes that happen and what we can do to make the situations better. 
Topics that we cover: Mistakes happen! How to compare mistakes to baseball Slow down, think- then act!
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Sometimes, you just need to rile up the office every now & then. We like to complete the week with shenanigans when we can! Take some of these tips (or all of them) and let us know which on is your favorite. _________ In Other News We have been posting more on YouTube about our field experience with the Trimble X7 scanner. Make sure you go check it out and subscribe to that channel if you want to see some more content like that in the future! - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7OcpEn4q1_4yWXIY9Zuyiw Thanks for joining us this week! Make sure you check out our sponsor Trimble ProjectSight! -https://projectsight.trimble.com/ Please consider subscribing! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Have you ever used the phrase "Can't We Just"?
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We’ve been producing this podcast every single week for almost 2 years. Fun fact, though, before we started The Construction Brothers, Tyler was a marketing nerd. It’s been a passion of his for quite a number of years. Because of that passion, he gets asked a lot how people can best market their construction company, and there’s one piece of advice that will change your entire business.

That’s what Tyler’s talking about today.

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We're revisiting our episode with Bryan Kaplan this week! We welcomed Bryan Kaplan of Construction Consulting to talk about relational selling and how, when done properly, clients can turn into a free salesforce. Storytelling, believe it or not, is another valuable asset to have in the world of sales. But first things first, we talk about the stereotypes surrounding video conferencing and some of the best fails we've seen and heard of while people are chatting on Zoom.
Related Links Bryan’s WebsiteBryan’s InstagramHow to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie Start with Why by Simon SinekSimon Sinek’s Ted TalkBuilding a Story Brand by Donald MillerTrello (just get it)
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Yup. Just two brothers talking about fartlek.    Life is busy. It’s easy to let physical fitness fall by the wayside. Today we step aside from professional concerns and into this area of personal improvement. We share a bit about our own experiences with physical training–specifically running.    Fartlek is a Swedish term. It refers to a kind of training that involves varying the pacing, intensity, and length of workouts. We’ve both experienced the benefits of this and other deliberate approaches to our fitness regimen.    Listen in as we geek out about VO2, glycogen stores, and mud runs. Then get out there and hit the road!   Find Us Online: Website - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A few months ago, after a decade of the two of us working closely together, Tyler left ABSI to start his own company. What has Eddie learned from losing his right-hand man?   Help them leave well. Celebrate their wins with them. Be genuinely happy for them. Do your best to put yourself in their shoes.   Recognize and acknowledge that this separation is a form of loss, and with loss comes emotions you may not have accounted for:  

• Shock, disbelief, or denial
• Anxiety
• Distress
• Anger
• Periods of sadness
• Loss of sleep and loss of appetite

Don’t make big decisions or be hasty. Think. Be deliberate. Figure out what has to happen right now and what doesn’t.  Refocus your goals with the team you have around you, and keep plugging.  That’s the message of today’s Five-Minute Friday.    Find Us Online: LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

(Scroll to see loads of links to videos of the tech mentioned in this episode.)   Tyler Williams is an innovation man. Within the first couple decades of his career, he worked as a union carpenter, estimator, project manager, and superintendent. Then he reached the point where he felt like he was losing passion for his work. He wanted to make an impact.   This drive to make a difference prompted him to set a goal of making it onto DPR’s innovation team. It took a couple years of proving himself and pitching the decision-makers, but he eventually got there.     You can imagine how satisfying it would be to test equipment in the field and then advise the maker on improvements. That’s one of the things Tyler gets to do.    But when Tyler shows up on the worksite, he’s not trying to keep his boots clean. He gets mucky. He’ll grab a rake and help a concrete crew. He knows that you have to show what you know in order to get the trust of your audience.    We ask Tyler to share about new tools in the field. He’s ready with a list. Here are a few we discuss:

• Smart Tag tracking
• The exoskeleton suit
• The Jaibot
• Dusty the layout robot
• Vita spin control, which has gone from… 
  • helicopter rescue applications 
  • to construction cranes
• Milwaukee’s battery-powered trowels, and concrete vibrators
• JLG’s self-leveling boom lift (not quite as new as some of these others but still interesting.)
• Hyperframe metal studs
• Live-Dig Radar (It’s as amazing as it sounds)

  Tyler shares about the importance of having street cred when introducing new technologies to the people who might be able to make use of them. Eddie recalls how the Dusty (layout robot) team needed to put eyes on the robot in order to keep workers from getting annoyed and angry and kicking the robot on the worksite.    We discuss the massive benefits of industry crossover, starting with a conversation about a helicopter-rescue technology that has now worked its way into construction cranes. (See link above)   He shares about a skeptical boom-lift foreman who reluctantly tried a VR training program and literally fell off of his chair before calling it the best thing he’s ever seen.    These technologies open a door for prospective employees who might not otherwise think about getting into construction. They both lower the barrier of entry in some respects and bring greater diversity to the forms of work to be done.    Tyler touches on some QR-code-based information/instruction that can dramatically increase the ease of information-sharing. We also discuss the possible intellectual-property tensions that arise with this sort of tech.   The last technology we discuss is live-dig radar. (See the link above.) Some municipalities are already requiring all excavators to use this technology.   Tyler’s Megaphone Message: Let’s partner as an industry–even with competitors–and work together to adjust the direction of construction. Let’s work together to help people see that construction is freaking cool.    Find Tyler Online: LinkedIn    Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn   If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We welcome Charlie Gilkey to talk about projects and productivity! We redefine what a project is to see how many projects we are actually handling, and to see if we need to drop projects to make room for what is already on our plate! We talk about how the importance of creating healthy habits and controlling how things like email impact your morning routine. Charlie talks about some of the bigger topics in his book “Start Finishing” and we get to discuss how to put ourselves in a place where we can succeed!
Related Links Productive FlourishingStart FinishingCharlie’s LinkedInDigital Minimalism
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Amazon is a behemoth in the retail marketplace. Continually evolving and getting more precise. And people love it, too. Nearly half of all American citizens have a Prime account. We're willing to wait the two extra days for the convenience of not having to get off the couch and turn off the next episode of Jack Ryan. We love it. The market has changed so rapidly because of Amazon. In the early 2000's you would have opted for the in-store experience over ordering online, but through time and fantastic service, they have changed the consumer mindset. So what does all of this have to do with construction? Turns out, quite a bit. Perfection was not the name of the game for Amazon in the beginning; the goal was to start something they knew would change the way the world purchased goods.
Related Links Atomic Habits - James ClearTyler's Blog Post
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We talk to the founder of Dusty Robotics! Tessa brings insight of how CAD drawings have more use cases than we currently use them for and has designed a robot that takes these drawings and prints them on a site. While Tyler draws up his BattleBot, Tessa talks about how humanitarian issues created a desire to enter the robotics field and finding creative ways to help people. Designated as a Chief Robot Whisperer, Tessa’s goal is to create robots that can do the things we can’t or don’t want to do. Related Links:
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What would happen if Indeed and Uber had a baby? John Reid of Faber talks about the gig platform connecting contractors directly to labor in a symbiotic relationship. Contractors get to cut down on their onboarding cost, verify laborer’s skill set, and endorse laborers for future jobs. Laborers get to cut out the back and forth of hiring, showcase themselves, and have a transparent service that wants them to succeed. We also discuss how Faber came to market, what they are doing to expand, and what job Tyler would have if he wasn’t working with us.
Related Links John Reid’s LinkedInFaber’s WebsiteFaber’s InstagramThe Weirdest Jobs
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In this week's episode, our friend Melanie Kagen educates us on the reality of homelessness and how we can help.  Melanie’s Info:  www.thecfr.org  melaniekagen@thecfr.org  (770)-428-2601 
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Let’s make the robots do the hard work. Why do we expect glass and glazing contractors to lift heavy sheets of glass into place, and we don’t expect steelworkers to carry around beams and columns? This week, we talk to Steven Brooks about the Smart Lift. The Smart Lift can increase longevity for glaziers in the glass industry and decrease injuries on the job site. We also chat about autonomy in the glass and glazing industry, and why it won’t be replacing people any time soon. Also, Eddie shows us what the Amish do when they need to move something heavy. It's pretty spectacular. Check it out in the link below!
Related Links SmartLift WebsiteSteven’s LinkedInSmartLift’s InstagramSteven’s TwitterAn Amish Barn Move
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Is there a labor shortage? What are disruptions in construction that aren't as noticeable? These were the questions we brought our guest, Todd Dawalt, this week. His answer to these questions is an incredible reminder of where your priorities should be as a company. Before we get to our interview with Todd, we discuss robots being fired from their jobs at a fully robotic hotel in Japan.  Todd Dawalt is the host of "The Construction Leading Edge" podcast. His show has the goal of teaching contracting professionals how to be more effective entrepreneurs and business leaders. Make sure you check him out!
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We have conflict daily on job sites, but what is the best way to get a resolution? You should have a goal keeping things out of the courtroom at all cost. Eddie drops some biblical knowledge on how to best approach resolving conflict. It's based on Matthew 18:15-20. If you're interested, here's the scripture he's basing it on - 15 “If your brother or sister sins, go and point out their fault, just between the two of you. If they listen to you, you have won them over. 16 But if they will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ 17 If they still refuse to listen, tell it to the church; and if they refuse to listen even to the church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector. 
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We start out today with a little Chicken N Pickle talk and some eye rolling about Tyler’s $150 pickleball paddle.   Then we move on to content most of you will find more substantial. Patrick Fernbach, our guest today, is Director of Mechanical Engineering at KLH Engineers in Kentucky.    Tyler asks Patrick what grinds his gears when it comes to the construction industry. Patrick discusses the fact that construction contract practices put the engineers and the trades at opposite ends of an unnecessarily complicated process. The long chain of contracts makes meaningful collaboration incredibly difficult.    Patrick acknowledges that he has not hung a single piece of ductwork, yet he’s designed miles of it. The closer he can get to the trades, however, the better he can do his job and the better those people can do their jobs.   He wants to hear from tradesmen who can provide some productive pushback on designs that cause complications where the screw meets the stud. He wants to know when his designs are a pain in someone’s neck.   Eddie asks Patrick to turn his thoughts in the opposite direction, toward the relationship between engineers on one end and architects and owners on the other end. He knows that the industry expects him to stay in his lane, but he doesn’t think that’s always the way it should be.    Eddie asks Patrick what kinds of things he struggles with in the process of doing his job. Patrick says that the most challenging thing is the ever-changing nature of the project. Architects and owners don’t always seem to understand just how many changes need to happen as a result of something that seems like a minor design adjustment.    The live nature of BIM360 makes this even more challenging. It’s difficult to track changes and determine which elements are locked and which ones aren’t.    Tyler discusses his experience with the ripple effect of small changes that seem to cause the unraveling of an entire project, and Eddie discusses how iterative design blurs the lines regarding completion of project elements.   Patrick raises the issue of meetings, and how the number of meetings seems to be continually increasing because of the dynamic nature of design. Although he doesn’t necessarily say that there have been too many meetings, he has definitely noticed that this aspect of the work is consuming more of the average engineer’s time.    Construction lacks some of the systems that manufacturing has, Patrick says. It feels like we’re in the process of putting those systems into place, which explains why things are kind of clunky at this point.   We ask Patrick to list some of the positives in construction-related engineering right now. Here are some of the things he lists:

• The increasingly smooth process of design-build
• The expectation for more detailed permit sets–detailed enough that the building could almost be built from them
• Increased proactive interest from a variety of vendors and subs who want to make sure that their contributions to a project will work smoothly
• VDC technology that increases efficiencies 

  Eddie asks about how fees have changed as approaches have changed. Patrick said that it varies from job to job because of varied expectations and services requested.   We explore how engineers like Patrick–those who seek to engage with the tradespeople–move the industry forward.   Patrick explains that siloed pricing structures that don’t involve upstream and downstream communication lead to some design elements being done multiple times.    Eddie piggybacks on this and contrasts the novice owner or general contractor from the experienced one. The experienced one knows that detailed design pays off in the long run. The bidding process is more effective. There are fewer RFIs. There are fewer complications. The guesswork is gone.    Patrick confirms what Eddie says with examples from a recent project.    Patrick’s Megaphone Message: Trust isn’t a soft skill; it’s a project multiplier. Build strong partnerships. Build strong teams. Show up with mutual respect for one another. Show up knowing each other’s strengths and weaknesses. Don’t BIM for BIM’s sake. Be intentional when you model and design. It’s about creating value for the owner and the downstream consumer. 
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How do we pass down knowledge efficiently? This week we sit down with Randy Collins and figure out how to implement training that truly works. We talk about how to set expectations, how to build a training program, and how to normalize training. Randy brings up some interesting points on how training affects both those new and experienced in the industry, and why you should continue training.
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Work, family, finances–all of these things are wonderful, but they also cause stress. Sometimes, that stress can accumulate to the point where it becomes something more substantial and name-able: anxiety. It can be easy to downplay symptoms and brush aside concerns, but you’re not doing yourself any favors when you do that.    Today we discuss some signs that might indicate a level of anxiety worth discussing with a health care provider: 

• Nervousness and irritability
• Difficulty sleeping 
• Avoidance of places that cause stress
• Worry about things that happened in the past
• Stress surrounding social interactions

  We’ll be circling back around to this topic later, but if you’re feeling some combination of these things with some consistency, it might be wise to share that with someone who can help. Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

It's a variety show this week! Eddie's finally back in the office, and we had a lot of catching up to do.   Here is what we cover! - Tyler leaving ABSI
- Office or Remote?
- New hard hats!?
- Laser scanning status report.
- What's making us think? 
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We're revisiting the question - What comes first, the Lego bricks or the Lego master?  The modular construction movement is trying to figure out this very same issue. What comes first, is it the modules or the modular design? Construction already uses modular or unitized building materials as its basis for the design. Whether you are dealing with literal brick, lumber, plywood, or piping we use predictable sizes and shapes that complement each other and fit together well.  The big question is, how do we encourage more companies to go into modular building components? Eddie and Tyler dive into an interesting discussion this week based on a blog post Eddie has been working on.   Thanks for listening! Please be sure to leave a rating or review and follow us on our social accounts! SUBSCRIBE!      Like us on LinkedIn!      Like us on Facebook!    Follow us on Instagram!Eddie's LinkedIn      Tyler's LinkedIn        See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ever lose a tool? Us too! How do we fix that? Asset management. A way to track what you have, where it is, who has it, and if it was broken by Eddie the last time he used it. We talk with Tammy Bauer and Marko Milosevic about all the various use cases of the Bosch Bluehound system. From tracking one specific type of asset to tracking a whole business of assets from consumables to long-term assets to auditable assets. We look into how asset tracking has been received by foremen and project managers and how it can be customized to fit the business's and individual users’ needs.
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This week we brought on Hal Macomber, the Executive VP at Touchplan, to talk about something that has been around for a while! Lean Construction. We look into the practices, called Katas, that Hal has implemented in his leadership that helps that happen. While chatting, we were super pumped to realize that Hal is very people-centric and loved to see how he implements his person-first view of leading in his life. 
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We welcomed Charlie Gilkey to talk about projects and productivity! We redefined what a project is to see how many projects we are actually handling, and wanted to see if we need to drop projects to make room for what is already on our plate! We talked about how the importance of creating healthy habits and controlling how things like email impact your morning routine. Charlie talked about some of the bigger topics in his book “Start Finishing” and we got to discuss how to put ourselves in a place where we can succeed! Related Links
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“In my day, you could get a candy bar for a nickel!”    Different generations have different reference points when it comes to money in general and compensation in particular. And those perceptions play a big role in recruitment and retention of employees.     It’s wise to be aware of your own bias when it comes to matters of compensation. This is true whether you’re in a position to set pay rates for others or you’re simply in a position of working for pay that is set by others.   The market matters more than your feelings. Also, demonstrated competency matters more than your feelings.    Take a look around. See what the fair market value is for your work or the work you’re hiring others to do.  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! 

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Rich Racz has been working as an engineer within the construction industry for seven years. He started out in Massachusetts and then jumped over the entire continental US to settle in Portland, Oregon.   We start today’s conversation with some talk about engineering classifications. Rich is a PE working on an SE. This means his license is in professional civil engineering, but he is on his way to qualifying as a structural engineer.    Most of Rich’s projects involve steel, concrete, and masonry. These projects are usually broken down into two phases:

• The design phase, in which you work with the owner and architect to design the frickin’ thing
• The construction-administration phase, in which the engineer works hand-in-hand with the contractor to  build the thing

  Rich works closely with the architect on each project, who usually hires him to help pursue the owner’s vision. Often, the owner and the architect have a rough vision that requires a great deal of clarification with help from the engineer.    Rich points out that architects’ desires for structures are often focused on “spanning further with a thinner profile.” The job of an engineer is to help the architect achieve as much of that vision as possible safely.   We discuss the value of questions going both ways in the engineer-contractor relationship. Rich says he likes it when contractors ask questions. He appreciates the desire this shows to synchronize efforts.    We ask Rich to share some advice with contractors. Here are his thoughts: 

• Preparing RFIs: Have a possible solution in mind before you point out a problem. 
• Submittals: Be sure to do your due diligence during the submittal phase. Avoid the need for a revise-and-resubmit. 
• Prioritizing RFI’s and issues onsite: On this point, Rich is more interested in hearing a designer/contractor’s perspective rather than sharing his own insights. Eddie says that he would find it helpful to have a more honest, forthright project schedule. What is truly critical. How can we reduce the sense of false urgency. (Easy rule: If there’s a crane onsite, it’s truly hot.)
• Pick up the phone: If the engineer fails to acknowledge a truly hot RFI, pick up the phone and talk to him or her about it. You might be surprised at how this builds relationships.

  Eddie asks if engineers are “trained in the art of ‘no’.”  Rich shares his thoughts, leading to a discussion about billable hours, profit margins, and hundred-year accountability.    Eddie asks if the scope of design needs to grow and expresses his support for a shared-savings model. We kick around some possible different approaches to pricing engineering and design work (including consideration of PITA fees).   Rich’s Megaphone Message: Don’t be afraid to branch out into your areas of weakness. Attack those in order to become a more well-rounded professional. Don’t pigeonhole yourself because you’re scared. (Tyler’s paraphrase: “Discomfort=growth.”) Find Rich online: LinkedIn  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this week's five minute Friday, Tyler and Eddie read the Christmas Story. We hope that everyone has a safe and Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!     Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Do your people fall asleep during their safety orientation? Tyler watched that happen this week. Construction accidents are something we take really seriously as a family. We've grown up being a part of, or hearing stories of fatalities on job sites. This week, though, we both had to sit down and get our OSHA 10 training done in order to go out on a job site to do some work.

We have some thoughts, to say the least.
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You are what you eat. Garbage in, garbage out. The list of sayings go on and on. This week we're taking a look at some healthy things we can express.   Here is our list of healthy outputs!  

• Journaling
• Conversations with a counselor
• Creating something – Video, photo, graphics, woodworking, anything to do with moving your hands.
• Focused production work

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John Kenney is a 3rd generation roofer. Over John's 30+ years in the roofing industry he has worked in various roles. From Roofer, to Estimator to Project Manager. We dive into what has changed over his career and he shares some of the issues you can avoid when working with a roofing contractor!   Thanks for listening! Please be sure to leave a rating or review and follow us on our social accounts! SUBSCRIBE!Like us on LinkedIn!Like us on Facebook!Follow us on Instagram!Eddie's LinkedInTyler's LinkedInSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Anne is an engineer who has spent more than three decades designing things like casinos, hospitals, academic facilities, corporate offices and transit facilities, bridges and tunnels.
She is actively working with the Charles Pankow Foundation as Executive Director and NIBS (National Institute of Building Sciences) as a Board Member. Also, at one point she was the President of ACI (The American Concrete Institute).
We have no idea what glitch in the matrix occurred to allow us to speak with her, but we are so grateful. She is such an incredible person with amazing insights into our industry!
Here's what we covered!
- The pace of technology adoption in the industry
- Investing into non-proprietary technologies that aid the entire industry
- What the Charles Pankow Foundation does to facilitate growth in the industry
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Eddie talks about wanting shingles, but we really wanted to focus on creating sustainable building programs that recycle non-renewable resources, focus on energy conservation, and create value for the owner! Chris Peterson is the Assistant Director of Anthesis Group and the Executive Director of Electric Utility Industry Sustainable Supply Chain Alliance. His goal is to see the construction industry head towards sustainability while also pushing for quality delivered to the owner! How do we balance being good stewards of the world while also creating quality structures?

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Eddie talks about one of his favorite history topics, The Civil War, and how that relates to the construction industry. Also we establish why Blockchain could help us answer RFI quicker! He has made the connection and walks us through how the changes and advancements in technology can cause gaps in our tactics. He shows some examples from the Civil War on how educated people can make poor decisions because technology has passed them by. Don’t let technology make what you are doing obsolete. Improvise, adapt, and better yourself to fulfill needs and widen margins.
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Eddie shares what he's doing different to avoid the challenges ABSI faced in 2008.     Thanks for joining us this week! Please consider subscribing! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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This week, Rob McKinney is on the show! Eddie and Tyler start this week's episode talking about Tesla's newest release, the Cybertruck. Link Here - Tesla Website They then interview Rob about how teams can stop fatigue that comes from massive amounts of documentation, tech trends we should be watching, and what opportunities we still need to chase in the construction industry. More about Rob - Rob McKinney, also known as the ConAppguru, serves as the curator of the www.conappguru.com blog site. Where he publishes weekly blog articles about new apps and how to solve workflows in the construction industry. He’s a founding member of the ConTechCrew podcast. Each week they interview a software developer or user about how technology can improve various workflows. He assists general contractors and subcontractors who are interested in using apps and software to improve their processes and deliver a higher level of service to their clients.   Related Links

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Before we go any further, here are three movie scenes that we refer to in today’s discussion. If you haven’t seen these in a while, you might want to refresh your memory:

• Billy Madison milk scene
• Cousin Eddie and his RV
• Matt Foley, Motivational Speaker

  Some hail Trevor Owen as the BIM Guru. Some call him BIM Boy. Whatever term you use, Trevor knows BIM. Specifically, he’s the BIM specialist for Hilti. Today we hear Trevor’s thoughts about the influence of building-information modeling on the construction industry.    We start out with some light Christmas-related banter and an introduction to our guest star, Ralph, Jr. Check out the Youtube version of this episode to see Ralph.   Trevor shares how Hilti aims to cut across business units in order to look at each business’s entire workflow. They want to be a productivity partner and solutions provider. We discuss the need for this increased form of efficiency and consolidation because “you can’t throw people at problems anymore. You can’t find the people.”   Hilti’s BIM efforts are focused on model maturity: “If we’re going to leave it in the building, it should be in the model because we have to buy it.” They want to envision and plan the entire process, from prefab all the way to delivery.   Trevor explains that the goal is not just to include more detail but to include more attributes and then process estimates from that.    As a construction guy, Eddie raises some concerns he has with certain aspects of BIM, and we explore those.    Trevor calls upon Billy Madison to explain that when it comes to means and methods, there’s sometimes a dynamic that asks “Who owns it?” He says we need to move from “What’s in it for me?” to “What’s in it for us?”    Eddie speaks up to express his desire for greater automation in the BIM process and points out that BIM is increasingly functioning as the database that we use with automated construction processes.    We discuss the challenges of finding the right people to fill design positions and then to train and retain them. Trevor says “constructability knowledge” is an important skill. Hilti offers a BIM Masterclass that involves 15 weeks of training, culminating in a closing week in The Netherlands.   Eddie and Tyler compare Hilti’s training timeline to Tyler’s as a detailer. Eddie says it was seven years before he was able to declare Tyler “mature” as a detailer (not necessarily mature as a person.)   Trevor’s Megaphone Message: The construction industry has never been as fun as it is now. Construction is fun and has a lasting effect on our children’s lives and their children’s lives. 

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Our society has an addiction to growth. This week we're diving into our experience growing a company and the pain that is introduced when you pull that trigger and try to scale. Questions to ask yourself: Why do you want to grow?

• Is it become more wealthy?
• Is it because that’s what businesses are supposed to do?
• Is it pure vanity? Just to show it off?
• Is it for the challenge?

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These things take practice, but they are all qualities you should strive for as a leader. 
- Show your humanity. Don't be afraid to show your emotions. - Remember the golden rule - Make others successful, and you will be successful. - If you're offering a reward, make sure it's in reach and winnable. - If you want good performance, pay well. Be there waiting with the check when the job is finished and people will love you for it. - People want to be heroes, not villains. Credit to Lee Evey for helping us out with these tips!
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Eddie’s been thinking about our episode with Patrick Fernbach. Specifically, he’s thinking about the discussion we had about small changes.  Sometimes you get several steps into a project and discover that things just aren’t looking right.  Tyler recalls an experience that he encountered pretty regularly when he was still doing steel detailing. Someone would call to explain that one tiny thing needed to change. Maybe it was the size of a bolt or a plate.  The problem? That change meant that something else needed to change. Which meant that two other things needed to change.  On and on went the ripple effect.  How do we avoid this? Do your best to make sure that you’ve checked through things before considering them finished. Batch things wisely. Make sure it won’t need to be changed down the road.  Understand that changes involve risk–monetary risk.  Mitigate your risk by managing changes well. Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Eddie and Tyler sit down with Marian Rafael of One to One Displays, out of Melbourne Australia! Marian has been floating in and out of our news feeds with videos of people walking around an open space with projectors showing a home floor plan at full scale. If you haven't seen this, you need to go check it out in the links below. We get the chance to talk about where the idea came from, how it works and what they're doing to take the idea to the next level.  Here's a summary of what One to One Displays specializes in (from their website) -  "One to One Displays is a floor plan projection center, set up in a large warehouse with the latest projection technology, we provide you the opportunity to walk through your plans in a 1:1 scale to fully understand the dimensions and details of your build before any work begins. It’s important to actually SEE your floor plan in real-life scale with furniture to give you a 3D feel and have the confidence in knowing that every centimeter is checked. You want your REAL home to be as close as possible to your DREAM home. Let us help you turn ethereal into reality." This was a phenomenal conversation and we're so excited for you to hear it!
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This week, we are joined by Mark Fly the "BidCoach"; he reminds us of where technology in construction started, where we are today, how we got there, and where we are going. We discuss how information silos are being connected and what we need to do to continue that process. Data access is important to be able to ensure the smoothest processes on site. Somehow we end up off track (not shocking) and talk about platform loyalty and the hidden cost and trade-offs of choosing the cheapest bid. Also - What are the protective perks of living in south Georgia? Find out when we bring something to your attention.    Related Links Monkeys in FloridaMark’s LinkedIn   Thanks for listening! Please be sure to leave a rating or review and follow us on our social accounts! SUBSCRIBE!      Like us on LinkedIn!      Like us on Facebook!    Follow us on Instagram!Eddie's LinkedIn      Tyler's LinkedIn      See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is a confession a confession if it brings you “a little sadistic joy”? We’ll let you make that judgment.    On the heels of last week’s episode about the importance of systems, today Eddie has a confession. A couple years ago he quietly dropped a subscription for Zapier, the management/automation software that Tyler loved when he was working at ABSI.     Eddie thought the software was really cool, but… not as cool as what Eddie could figure out himself.    It was part of a systems assessment that revealed him as an unnecessary pinch point.      We discuss Tyler’s oddly personal sense of attachment to particular software, and then we wrap up with a brief list of software packages that we’ve used and dropped. It’s pretty dang long.   Sometimes you have to drop a system when it’s not working.    Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we springboard off of our conversation with Brent Darnell and give our take on how we can change the construction industry. From leading by example, mental health, and a few book recommendations we cover a lot in this episode. 
Books mentioned in this episode -  The BibleLeaders Eat Last - Simon SinekHow To Win Friends and Influence People - Dale CarnegieEssentialism - Greg McKeownThe 4-Hour Work Week - Tim Ferriss
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Today, we take a day to reflect on the importance of knowing the pros and cons of college and apprenticeships. Ken Rusk really inspired us to give our personal experiences with these paths and what worked for us! We look at the cost of college and where that can lead. Our goal isn’t to say one is better than the other but to remind the future that they have more than one choice.
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In this week's five minute Friday, Tyler and Eddie discuss the outcome of taking the time to fulfill a project until you are 100% satisfied. We also hit a few topics such as not settling for the minimum, but going above and beyond. Please consider subscribing! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Today, in the first of a very short series (if two episodes can be called a series), Eddie talks us through the daily pattern that keeps him going.  Eddie is a man of routine. You’ll hear about a day that kicks off with a 5:30 alarm and includes a healthy supply of coffee among other things. There are some smoothies in there, as well as some ice cream. (Of course there’s also a collection of thoughtful leadership practices.)    We discuss how routines provide momentum and structure for our day–as well as which elements have the most harmful effect when they’re forgotten. Here is the David Goggins on Mars video we mention (in somewhat censored form). Enjoy! Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Life isn’t in our control. Shocked? Neither are we. How does that affect this idea of “work-life balance”? It is important to realize how to deal with the things, not in our control. We tackle the importance of realizing work-life balance isn’t obtainable, but what is obtainable is making sure we don’t become overwhelmed by the things we enjoy and the things life deals. If you have been here for longer than 30 seconds, you know we aren’t advocating for 20-hour workdays, but rather an understanding that the idea of “perfectly balanced” isn’t obtainable and may doesn’t need to be obtained.   Related Links:
Door 1 - Quality Control
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Norine Bagate is a teacher–not by profession but in practice. Professionally, she’s the founder of NWB Consulting, a technology-based firm that develops software aimed at helping owners ensure that projects are completed as smoothly as possible.    Here’s a quick rundown of Norine’s professional history: 

• Earned an architecture degree from University of Texas at Austin
• Moved to New York and worked in construction as a project manager
• Managed capital projects in the corporate world, which included working with an in-house design team 
• Worked in the realm of construction law (in a non-lawyer role)  

  During her time in various aspects of construction, Norine came to realize that there was a problem with “Spearin risk,” which relates to the burden of legal liability in relation to owners and contractors. (If you’d like to learn more about the technicalities of Spearin doctrine and risk, read this article. If you’re not up for that adventure, you can just call it scope risk.) She decided to do something about that.   One way to look at it is that Norine helps people define the boundaries of responsibilities. This means planning thoughtfully in the earliest possible stages of projects. She recites a quote whose original source is uncertain: “The best plans rarely survive first contact with the enemy.”   Norine believes that the burden of discovery rests with the owner. The owner is the source of the financial incentives for all other parties in the construction process.   Norine shares a vivid analogy involving a shotgun and owners who are at risk of shooting themselves in the foot. Norine offers to hold the shotgun safely. She anticipates problems that nobody else sees or wants to face. She brings those to the front and addresses them proactively.    Norine says that owners need to digitalize their contracts, not just digitize them. Here’s an explanation of the difference.    Meta-governance helps in this process. It sets up a situation where you can share information without accepting risk from another party.    She helps companies work toward a content-based information system where information can be shared across silos while maintaining proper liability links. It’s about thinking in more than 2 dimensions and seeing a web of connections.    Why take so much time in advance to do this? Because it prevents battles. It makes everything move more smoothly and predictably.    Eddie asks Norine to discuss the dynamics of information silos. She argues that silos are healthy as long as governance is handled properly. Her company’s software translates structural engineers’ insights so they can be understood by architects and vice-versa.   We discuss the role that Ai might be able to play in this pursuit of increased communication and efficiency.   Norine believes “we have too many [software] applications of very low value.” She sees way too much time and energy being spent on cross-platform interpretation and believes we should work toward a more seamless solution.    We discuss these concerns from the perspective of wasted intellectual energy. So much time is spent figuring, comparing, and arguing.   Norine’s Megaphone Message: Building-project risk does not begin or end with construction. If we can internalize that, we’ll understand that you have to push discovery upstream to the earliest stages of planning. If there’s an unknown that can be made known, it’s best to know it and address it as soon as possible. Start interrogating early. Start doing robust due diligence early. Continue that culture of observation, interrogation, and validation throughout the entire process.   Find Norine Online: LinkedIn - NWB Consulting   Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Bob Goff is a construction lawyer turned author whose most recent book, Undistracted, is currently at #8 on the New York Times bestseller list. The insights Bob shares in his books aren’t necessarily what you’d expect from a lawyer. As you’ll hear in today’s episode, Bob focuses on how to live a life that is centered on others and on making the world a better place.    Bob shares that he sees his former construction-law work as similar to the work done by “that death-star guy.” His legal career went something like this:

• He commuted by air from San Diego to Seattle every workday for almost 30 years.
• During that time, he estimates that he won his construction-firm clients somewhere around half a billion dollars.
• One day he walked into the law firm that had his name on the wall, simply handed over the key to one of his partners, and walked away from his law work. He had decided that it was time to do something other than hand wealth around from one wealthy person to another. 

  And here’s a rundown of what Bob had done since leaving law:

• Sold millions of books 
• Fought Uganda’s first case against a witch doctor who had engaged in child sacrifice
• Started a nonprofit organization called Love Does
• Established schools in Somalia, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iraq, Uganda, The Dominican Republic, and a few other countries

  Bob shares with us about how a child sacrifice case in Uganda drew him to return briefly to his legal work. After successfully trying this case, Bob became the legal guardian of the child (who amazingly survived the incident) and then took him to Cedar Sinai hospital for surgery. This trip ended up with a visit to the White House and an amazing recovery that you’ll want to hear.    After hearing some of Bob’s stories, we ask him to share some advice with our audience. He suggests that people seek personal change by improving the lives of others: “Start moving the needle in other people’s lives and see what happens in yours.”   Here are some of Bob’s guiding principles and practices:

• He tries to quit something every Thursday.
• He asks himself how his life is working for the people around him. He suggests that people ask themselves what they want to be remembered for.
• He puts his personal phone number in the back of his books. 

  Bob’s guidance for construction leaders (that could also apply to anyone else):

• “Be a good picker.” Be thoughtful about the arguments you pick. If there’s a more humble way to get it done, do that. Get inside your head and ask why you have to win.
• “Have something that matters more.” Find something bigger than your job.
• “Know what you’re aiming for.” It can’t just be happiness. It needs to be something concrete. For Bob, it was being home (San Diego) from work (Seattle) for supper with his family. 
• “Work toward something that will outlast you.”

  Bob’s megaphone message: “Be humble. Humble voices carry further.”   Find Bob Online:

• Bob’s Amazon page
• LoveDoes.org
• Bob’s talk at TEDx in LaJolla

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Around 200,000 people leave the U.S. Military every year and transition back to civilian life. Our guest, Jay Snyder is the President of Big Blue Innovations, but is currently serving in the United States Air Force Reserve as a Lieutenant Colonel.
We love this conversation because it helps address the labor issue we hear about so often along with giving veterans an open door to an amazing industry. Jay gives us a few tips on how to approach hiring more veterans along with sharing his own experience going from active duty to the private sector.
https://www.bigblueinnovations.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/snyderjayp/
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Get a sneak-peek into the highlights of Construction Junkie’s Best of 2020. Between brotherly roast sessions, Shane brings us some of his favorite things from 2020… we mean 2020 may not have been the best, but there were some really cool things that happened this year! Robots, technology adoption, telecommuting, and AI, Shane leaves no stone unturned.
Related Links
Construction Junkie
Shane’s LinkedIn
TyBot Automated Rebar
SPOT the RoboDog
Hilti JaiBot
Hadrian X
BONUS ROBOTS: Hilti Exoskeleton & Colas Exoskeleton
SmartVid.io AI Safety Compliance
StructionSite Production Tracking
OpenSpace.ai 360 Searchable Photo Documentation
Fat Truck
Building Just Walks Away
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Wally’s range of experience is more diverse than most. Who would have guessed that the Notre Dame leprechaun (yes, he was the official leprechaun for a year) would work his way to the rank of commander in the marines and pilot AH-1W Super Cobra helicopters? Eventually, Wally worked his way into construction leadership with FMI Consulting. Now Wally works as a public speaker and consultant, inspiring people in various fields to become better leaders. In our chat with Wally, we discuss the leadership principles that build strong, productive businesses where employees want to contribute and stick around. Wally says that it’s about a range of things that boil down to a culture built on what he calls “micro trust.” Here are some bits and pieces   Advice Wally gives leaders:

• The daily huddle is one of the best tools you have every day.
• Credibility is essential.
• “Your behavior as a leader drives the behavior of other people.”
• If you put barriers in front of new people because you experienced barriers, you’re shooting yourself in the foot (and harming your business).
• Beware of short-term thinking that can compromise long-term results. Innovate.
• “You can’t create greatness in a company if you don’t share information.”
• Begin with the end in mind. Show respect for the individual. Give them tools that work.

  Advice Wally gives today’s followers (tomorrow’s leaders):

• Show up, shut up, and perform.
• Have an open mind. Give your leaders some leeway to make mistakes. Nobody’s perfect.
• Pay your dues. If you’re good, you play.
• Don’t withdraw to your own echo chamber.

  We discuss the fact that the construction industry is a crazy world. There’s a huge range of complications and every single day. Yes, it’s important to get the job done, but the job doesn’t get done if you don’t take human dynamics into consideration. Leadership development is personal development.    Wally’s Megaphone Message:  Jerks don’t win. “We” is better than “me.” Seek to make the pie bigger for everybody. Seek to get new people into the building.  Find Wally Online: His FireStarter Speaking page - His LinkedIn page  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie on LinkedIn - Tyler on LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tyler makes it back in the booth this week, and we get to talk about something that has been on his mind these past two weeks. Mental Health. A lot of times, we are our own worst critics; we bring our pocket jury with us everywhere and are ready to let them condemn us as guilty the moment we think our actions aren’t good enough. How do we overcome that guilt? How do we strive for becoming better without having to micro-analyze every action we take?
Related Links:
Charlie Gilkey’s Episode
Jon Acuff’s “Soundtracks”
Stephen Covey’s “7 Habits of Highly Effective People”
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Merry Christmas! This week, we wanted to tell you about our favorite things this year. From tech, to books, we cover a lot. We're going to be taking a break next week to spend some time with our families. We'll be back to regularly scheduled programming on January 6th. Also, we just launched our new website! Check it out here -  www.brospodcast.com
Links to Eddie's top five(ish)

- Rogue Gym equipment

- Ping pong table

- Scribd

- Leaders Eat Last

- Entre Leadership

- Band of Brothers

- Construction Brothers Podcast

- St. Simons Island
Links to Tyler's top five(ish) - Apple iPhone 11 Pro Max

- Apple AirPods

- Simple

- Essentialism

- Elon Musk

- Ridge Wallet

- Medium

- Calendly

- Zoom Meeting

- Uplift Desk
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It sounds so abstract. It is.    Yet it’s so important.   Atmosphere is one of the things that employees look for in a place of employment…   It’s not just about having bean bags and ping-pong tables in the office.    It’s about a sense of comradery and trust. It’s about a healthy workplace culture. Does it feel good to be at this workplace?    It’s not about whether the employer says their company has those things; it’s about whether those things actually define the workplace.    Today we just scratch the surface of the elements that create atmosphere: the architecture of the office, the decor, the way people speak to each other.     In short, it’s about being intentional. A little bit of thought and action can make a difference.

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Welcome to 5 Minute Friday! Where we tell you our best tips and tricks to help you and your team get a little bit better every single week. This week we are going over 3 Tips for Engineers!

1. Call a subcontractor and schedule a field trip, put your hands on it and learn how to build. Be more than a button-pushing analyzer. It’s probably why you started in the industry anyway.
   
2. Stop putting “See Arch” on your contract drawings. Try your dangdest before you do this to make sure you have done your due diligence and have tried to get this scope coordinated.
   
3. Stay humble.

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Unclear expectations, scope creep, “Dude, that’s not my job!” Regardless of the phrasing, you’ve experienced it if you’re a contractor or a sub. Today we discuss how to avoid it.   What’s the answer?    Refine.  Be clear.  Empathize.    Find individuals who are masters of their specialties. Define the job you need each person to do and then hold yourself to those boundaries.    That’s the message of today’s Five-Minute Friday.    Find Us Online: Website - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The topic on the table this week is all things Entrepreneurship. Our guest, Tats, gave us so many great nuggets of wisdom that we're excited to share with you!
Tatsuya "Tats" Nakagawa has launched hundreds of products and services, co-authored Overcoming Inventoritis: The Silent Killer of Innovation with a foreword by Steve Wozniak, co-founder of Apple, spoken to a variety of industry groups including The American Chamber of Commerce. He's also written articles for Fast Company and Industry Week. Tats is going on CBS News in order to share his story with the world!
Beyond that, he is the CEO of Castagra. Castagra helps contractors and commercial property owners solve difficult roof coating challenges, mainly with tar and gravel. One of their products, Ecodur, is used by companies all over the world. Ecodur has also been voted top "Greenvention" by the entrepreneur reality show Dragon's Den. (It's like Shark Tank)
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Systems are so cool… At least that’s how Tyler feels.    There’s a four-letter reason he loves them: ADHD. He has learned that systems hold him accountable.    Eddie is the grunt-and-get-it-done guy. This is often good, of course, but it can sometimes result in a failure to create a system early enough.     Tyler shares about automated folder-creation software that avoided organizational chaos.    Here’s the Craig Groeschel video Tyler mentions.     Sometimes a “system” can be little more than a scheduled meeting–having a time when someone will be waiting there for you. It forces you to stop and address a task or a set of issues you might otherwise ignore.    Tell us about the systems that keep you moving in your business and life: 512-THE-BROS.   Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chris Wilocki joins us and makes us feel right at home while we talk BIM. Chris is the Operations Manager at Sturgeon Electric and we just get to be BIM Nerds with him. We chat through the pressure points of a recent project Chris was on, how to leverage data, and how he views BIM in a value-add. We talk about the importance of time when working with revisions and issuing drawings. Related Links
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Sturgeon Electric
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Life isn’t in our control. Shocked? Neither are we. How does that affect this idea of “work-life balance”? It is important to realize how to deal with the things, not in our control. We tackle the importance of realizing work-life balance isn’t obtainable, but what is obtainable is making sure we don’t become overwhelmed by the things we enjoy and the things life deals. If you have been here for longer than 30 seconds, you know we aren’t advocating for 20-hour workdays, but rather an understanding that the idea of “perfectly balanced” isn’t obtainable and may doesn’t need to be obtained.
Related Links:
Door 1 - Quality Control
Door 2 - Comedy
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(Today’s episode is a re-air from 2021, chosen in recognition of Fathers Day.)    It's time for some coffee with a splash of multi-generational wisdom.    Joining us today are our dad and our grandpa, aka “Pop.” These two bring a deep, wide reservoir of experience.    Pop started with Messer Construction all the way back in 1954, in part of a college co-op program. He moved on to the position of project manager and eventually senior project executive. As he tells us, though, he was just interested in building buildings.    Among the larger projects Pop worked on are Millett Hall at the University of Miami in Ohio and Sander Hall at the University of Cincinnati. (Here’s the video he mentions of the Sander Hall demolition.)   Dad started in construction the day after his last high school baseball game. In 1980, he moved his young family to Florida. A while later he Dad started ABSI and ran it until Eddie took over recently.    Pop talks us through the specs for the Millet Hall at the University of Miami in Ohio. The basketball arena was in this building, and also classrooms. This project took two and a half years.    Millett Hall was built on the site of an old golf course. Pop talks us through additional specs, including truss assemblies, 150-ton cranes, and a project-management staff much smaller than what we see these days.    RFIs? Well, there were none. If there was a question, the relevant parties talked on the phone. Monthly meetings also helped head off problems.   Distance between architects and engineers–there was almost none. They were partners.    Dad shares about how things had changed by the 70s and 80s. He witnessed the change from self-performing to bid-build. Subbing had begun on some of Pop’s jobs in the late 60s but hadn’t really taken hold until the late 70s.    As this change took place, the burden of liability began to blur. The change was propelled, however, by the need to keep specialty crews busy.    We discuss the training required for project management. Pop learned by doing, so he had a headstart on managers coming out of college with only classroom experience.    Pop shares about his bold prediction that he’d move from newbie to superintendent in five years, even though the company owner said it usually took 15. Pop proved him wrong, after establishing a reputation with other decision-makers.    We discuss mindset. Eddie recalls Pop’s adage “Make it a winner.” Pop recalls working on over 150 jobs, and he says, “If you can’t enjoy what you’re doing, do something else.”   Dad shares about Pop coming home from building at work just to build more at home (after a quick “brown pop,” aka beer).   Dad and Eddie discuss tensions between architects, engineers, and designers turning into trust built over time.    We discuss the fabric of expertise and insight that grows with generational experience.    Dad’s megaphone message: Most of the mess in the industry can be traced back to design. We’re so specialized that nobody knows anything about anything. We’re too fragmented.    Pop’s megaphone message: Family matters most. If you can take that family mindset into the workplace, it will make all the difference.   Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn   If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We invite an attorney to talk about how to protect yourself as a subcontractor. Karalynn Cromeens, the writer of “Quit Getting Screwed”, talks about how to keep from agreeing to put your company out of business. We ask about liens, bonds, and how to leverage those things to help your employees and keep your company from no longer being a company. Karalynn brings some amazing points about how to read and look for parts of a contract that are there to push the burden to subcontractors and suggest other options to negotiate to receive.
Related Links
Karalynn’s LinkedIn
Karalynn’s Book - “Quit Getting Screwed”
Electric Crane - Construction Junkie
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Tyler steps in to share his favorite leadership podcasts! All It Takes Is A GoalJocko PodcastJohn Maxwell PodcastAkimbo (Seth Godin)How I Built This _________ In Other News We have been posting more on YouTube about our field experience with the Trimble X7 scanner. Make sure you go check it out and subscribe to that channel if you want to see some more content like that in the future! - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7OcpEn4q1_4yWXIY9Zuyiw Thanks for joining us this week! Make sure you check out our sponsor Trimble ProjectSight! -https://projectsight.trimble.com/ Please consider subscribing! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL
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Do you love the undo button as much as us? This week we are talking about mistakes that happen and what we can do to make the situations better.    Topics that we cover: Mistakes happen! How to compare mistakes to baseball Slow down, think- then act!   Thanks for listening! Please be sure to leave a rating or review and follow us on our social accounts! SUBSCRIBE!      Like us on LinkedIn!      Like us on Facebook!    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Here are the articles we quoted during this weeks episode!

https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/16/22934958/waymo-ch-robinson-autonomous-truck-pilot-texas


https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/15/business/elon-musk-tesla-charity-donation.html


https://www.morningbrew.com/daily/stories/miami-least-affordable-housing-market-US


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Nature’s timelines can seem unfair. The same is true of professional timelines. It can leave you feeling left behind.
Our message: Cut yourself some slack! Stay the course! Don’t rush it!    Keep learning, and watch for opportunities to combine your passions, skills, and experience into something meaningful.     That’s the nugget of insight we offer in today’s Five-Minute Friday.  Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After reviewing hundreds of Architectural sets over the years, here are the main pain points we see most often. - Stair stringers have width - Do final coordination with your engineer before issuing the documentation - Use grids (and coordinate) - Know the actual dimensions of materials like masonry - Dimension walls to face of stud - Be a builder. Not an artist. Thanks for joining us this week! Make sure you check out our sponsor Trimble ProjectSight! - https://projectsight.trimble.com/ Please consider subscribing! SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL Like us on LinkedIn! Like us on Facebook! Follow us on Instagram! Eddie's LinkedIn Tyler's LinkedIn (Our day job)See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Long-time listener, first-time caller–like the actual, very first caller! A couple weeks ago we announced our new Construction Brothers call line and invited you to leave a voicemail with a question or insight. A few of you stepped up, and today we address one of those questions. The question: In regard to leadership, which matters more: relationships or results? We discuss the fact that the clear answer is both. As we know, though, that’s often not possible.  Eddie presents two answers to this question–one from his 28-year-old self and one from his today self.  28-year-old Eddie was driven mostly by his competitive tendencies and was focused almost exclusively on results. He was trying to determine whether the construction field was where he belonged.  Over the years, he hasn’t necessarily grown less competitive. He has, however, experienced a decrease in the need for everyone to look around and see Eddie Campbell in the front. As a result, he’s come to value building a team that enjoys each other’s company.  Tyler finds that his focus fluctuates throughout a project and within a given day, being much more task-oriented at some points and more relationally oriented at other times. He gives an example of how he navigates conflict with greater consideration of his team members’ humanity. We wrap up with Tyler setting up Eddie for a demonstration of humility. Eddie steps up and graciously compliments Tyler’s leadership style.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Messer Construction has been a huge part of our family for generations. This week we sit down and talk with Tim Steigerwald, who is the President of Messer. During our chat, Tim shares the methods they use to recruit talent. The primary way they do this is through co-ops. If you listened to our episode with our Grandpa (Pop) and Dad, they both talked about how they came through the Messer co-op machine and how it was a massive aid to them becoming the builders they are today. For people trying to build their company, this is a super valuable episode.    Thanks for listening! Please be sure to leave a rating or review and follow us on our social accounts! SUBSCRIBE!Like us on LinkedIn!Like us on Facebook!Follow us on Instagram!Eddie's LinkedInTyler's LinkedInSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sometimes things get away from you. Today we discuss the ways we reduce the number of things that get away from us.    Eddie introduces the idea of a barricade.   His primary barricade for excessive scrolling or social media usage? Use a browser-based version that is clunky enough that he doesn’t want to keep staring at it.    We discuss the relentless attention suck that social media is for us and the whole family. Sometimes you need to treat yourself like a kid. “Sorry, but you can’t have your laptop today.”   Having a hard time getting consistent with that daily workout? Maybe leave your only stick of deodorant at the gym–or in a shoe box a couple miles from home.   If you have any examples of ways you place barricades to redirect your behavior, give us a call at 512-THE-BROS.      Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn   If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A few weeks ago, we talked to Dr. Michael Bottlang about the rotational force that causes the majority of severe head injuries.   This got Eddie thinking about an earlier experience where we purchased hard hats for a demo and ended up with Type I hard hats when we’d intended to get a Type II.   Many contractors have chosen to shift to newer styles of helmets without looking at the protection data. They might be making these decisions to look like they’re cutting-edge or, frankly, because those wearing the helmets think they look better. The Type II helmets look a bit better, but Dr. Bottlang’s research suggests that the Type I helmets might actually provide greater protection.    Perhaps we (the larger, collective “we”) should examine the decisions we’ve made. Perhaps we should have the humility to admit that it’s time to turn back.    Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We open today with a discussion about the latest epidemic in the US. Yes, we’re talking about the epidemic of pickleball-related injuries. Here’s the story in Bloomberg.   Then we move on to a topic that John Roach brought to Eddie’s attention recently. It’s all about architects and the pricing of their services.    It all goes back to the Sherman Anti-trust Act, which was enacted in 1890 to address the problem of monopolies.    In the 1860s, Richard Morris Hunt sued a client who failed to pay his 5% fee. In doing so, he unknowingly set 5% as the industry standard for architect fees.   By the 1950s, the AIA had formalized a somewhat complicated fee structure for various architectural services.      In the late 1960s, concerns arose that this fee structure was a form of price fixing. The Justice Department investigated and found that it did, indeed, violate the Sherman Anti-trust Act. In 1972, they issued a “consent decree,” which amounted to a settlement that outlined how the AIA could and could not behave going forward. (If you’d like to geek out on details, go here.).    Here’s the 2022 AIA compliance guide.    After reviewing this history, we discuss the complications of defining the scope of an architect’s work and getting clarity on that when it comes to the architect’s fees. It can become a race to the bottom. These complications have affected the way that contractors relate to owners and designers.    We compare these patterns to the patterns within fees for engineering services.    The question all of this leads to is this: “How do we argue for spending more money on design when it’s hard to know what I’m buying?”   We discuss the challenge of bank loans based on permit designs, as well as owners who don’t know how complicated the design process is.    Tyler really wants a Ford Raptor… What does that have to do with architecture fees? Well, when you buy a truck, you know what options you’re paying for and how they affect the price. Eddie explains that he’d like to see that kind of manufacturing mindset influence the designing and bidding process in construction.    We ponder the F1 price cap as an analogy for how things could play out if people were to spend more money on design.   Our Megaphone Message: Define value. Then buy value. Buy more design. Work with your lender and explain that this project can be much more successful if more money is invested in design. Slow is smooth, and smooth is fast.   Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Youtube - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we're learning about ways you can meet sustainability goals when you're using steel. Our friend, Dennis Pilarczyk is Manager of Building Solutions at Nucor and he walks us through some of the new innovations in steel manufacturing! We obviously nerd out hard on this episode since we both have a background in steel. Here are a few things we dive into!

• What's the difference between EAF and BOF mills?
• Environmental product declarations (EPDs)
• High strength steel and how reducing tons on a job reduces carbon
• Net-zero carbon steel

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This week Eddie and Tyler sit down with Mani Golparvar of Reconstruct and John Jurewicz of Wallbridge. Reconstruct is a platform that allows its users to easily combine data from various sources. All of your 3D models, point clouds and 360 videos can be put into the same platform and stitched together using artificial intelligence. One of the key benefits of doing this is the transparency it can provide in progress monitoring. Scans can be done more often since the process can be as simple as walking around with a 360 camera. Since they’re using AI to get the heavy lifting done, the result is a quick turnaround so you can use those 3D files before the job site has changed making the scans obsolete. John dives into his real real-world experience and gives us a good perspective on where Reconstruct has improved his projects and where he’s excited to see more development done.
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Nobody’s going to make sure that you do it. It’s the advance preparation required for a project.    And it’s your responsibility.   You’ll see that Eddie feels pretty strongly about this–understandably so. It’s simply not fair to show up unprepared and then expect someone else to step up and fill the gaping chasm you’ve created.    Take responsibility for your own failures. Admit it. Then you may politely ask for help.   Don’t be a Biff.   Find Us Online: Website - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We are super excited to announce the launch of our brand new podcast! Eddie and Tyler Campbell are 4th generation builders who currently own a virtual building and modeling company called ABSI. Each week, Eddie and Tyler will explore ideas both directly and indirectly related to the construction industry. We are so excited to release our first episodes on September 23rd! Please go ahead and subscribe to get notified when the first episodes launch!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week we sit down with Jordan Lawver of Trimble, Inc. Jordan is the Portfolio Manager for Mixed Reality, which means he knows his stuff when it comes to AR, VR, and Mixed Reality systems. We discuss Trimble's newest release, the XR10 with Hololens 2, and what has changed since version 1 of the Hololens. Jordan also gave us a tour of the XR10, which we will be posting on our LinkedIn and Facebook pages!
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We all see communication disconnects between designers and builders every single day, so today we talk to one of our Dad’s old work buddies, Chuck Colwill. Why Chuck? Because Chuck is an expert in the design-build approach that produces a much more nimble and efficient building team.    Chuck’s work with his firm, Colwill Engineering, is a great example of how to gracefully, creatively navigate the complications that come with supply-chain problems, bureaucracies, labor shortages, and other challenges. The firm’s use of design-build helps them execute projects with impressive efficiency. They’re prepared to handle all MEP work in a way that streamlines problem-solving.     Here are some of the insights Chuck shares: -Everything goes more smoothly when there is early and active communication between designers of a project and those whose hands will be moving the physical pieces.  -Early communication helps everyone. (You’ll hear echoes of our discussion with Ernie Maschner.) -Whether it’s generators or flex duct, unexpected supply-chain complications create problems that can be easily solved by a team who is equipped to formulate quick work-arounds.  -Client expectations haven’t changed much since Chuck and Dad Campbell were running together, so changing industry dynamics are forcing contractors to tighten up the process wherever we can.  -Siloed organizations simply can’t compete with the agility of a well-managed design-build company.   -Design-build firms do have some unique challenges. For example, it’s essential for their leadership teams to thoughtfully align the supply chains and manpower needs on multiple overlapping projects.   In the megaphone moment, Chuck coins the term “three-bid-itis” to describe the mess that leads to the cheapest guy building the most expensive design. Chuck says the solution to this problem is to go open-book with subcontractors so that a general contractor can go with the person he or she trusts and then move forward with confidence that things will be done well.  Learn more about Chuck and his company: Chuck’s LinkedIn -  Colwill Engineering Find Us Online: BrosPodcast.com - LinkedIn - Instagram - Facebook - Eddie's LinkedIn - Tyler's LinkedIn If you enjoy the podcast, please rate us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to us! Thanks for listening! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The story of Andrew Brown’s life in construction starts on September 11, 2001. Andrew was a 23-year-old IT worker on Wall Street. When the towers fell, Andrew and a friend decided that they had to help. They headed toward Ground Zero and somehow made it through all of the checkpoints.    After watching so many tradespeople pour themselves into the rescue efforts–most of them with little PPE, Andrew found himself wondering what he could do to support these hardworking people. A couple months later, Andrew put in his two-week notice and started a business with his brother. Together, they started an online tool company.     Last year, Andrew decided to post some videos sharing what he’s learned over two decades of behind-the-scenes work in the construction industry. The videos gained more and more views, and then one went viral. He realized he was on to something. Tyler shares his appreciation for the simply informative, non-promotional tone of Andrew’s videos.   We ask Andrew to share some thoughts about the labor-shortage issue within the construction world. He says that the narrative needs to change in homes and schools. We need to flip the script on the old-school threat that poor academic performance will sentence you to a life in the trades. That outcome needs to be seen as the reward that it is rather than as a punishment.   We ask Andrew to outline what he thinks can increase the number of young people who aspire to learn a skilled trade. Andrew suggests giving them the bigger picture of where construction fits into the big picture. Then it’s important to help them see the opportunities for working your way up the ladder—possibly toward owning your own business.   Tyler points out that a significant number of people who are currently in the field of construction didn’t even zhead that direction purposefully. Many have kind of stumbled into it from peripheral fields or through jobs they thought would be temporary.   Andrew piggybacks on that idea and emphasizes the importance of looking for people who might enter the skilled trades through unorthodox routes. The various in-roads must be made clear. Construction companies need to make a concerted effort to sell young people on how a career in construction contributes to society.    Eddie shares about a recent high school event he attended where 30 high school seniors shared their career plans. He got the sense that most of them had simply Googled the salaries for various jobs. There was an inordinate number of nurse anets… nurse aneth… nurse anesthetists. (Why don’t they just change that term, for Pete’s sake. Even some of these people who work in the field struggle with it.)    Tyler says that it’s important to help people see not just a promising salary but to also help them see a positive workplace experience. Andrew shares his opinion that most young people want immediate gratification. He says that the challenge is for the industry to communicate a cohesive message about the opportunities. He also makes the argument for returning shop class to school.    Eddie refers to the sense of pride, confidence, and long-term comfort that comes with mastering a broad range of basic construction skills. When you know the basics of plumbing, electrical, framing–all of these things position you not just for employment but also for self-sufficiency.   We step away from the skilled trade conversation for a minute and ask Andrew about the coolest tool he’s seen recently. He mentions a robotic rebar-tier.    Andrew’s Megaphone Message: We have a skilled trades gap. We can’t be reactive. We need to be proactive. We need to be out there discussing the benefits of plumbing, welding, and the other trades. From teachers and guidance counselors to parents and industry representatives, we need to show young people the picture of what success can look like in the skilled trades.   Find Andrew online: LinkedIn - Toolfetch - YoutubeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

5,229 construction workers died by suicide in 2016 (the last year for which CDC numbers are available).    The industry category of “construction and extraction” has a higher rate of suicide than any other industry category.    That’s why suicide is a topic worthy of discussion on a construction-related podcast. That’s why we’re talking to Kevin Sells today.    People who aren’t involved in construction might wonder why in world those numbers are so high. If you are in the industry, however, you know that stress levels increase dramatically when supply chains experience hiccups that affect workflow. Also, many commercial construction jobs involve long stretches of time away from family. Unfortunately, many construction companies have almost no protocols or programs in place for addressing mental health concerns.    Creating a healthier overall bid-build process was the desire behind the new methodology proposed by Project Summit, an initiative that Kevin is involved in. Project Summit is total collaboration strategy intended to get back to a system based on producing predictable cost outcomes through true relationship and trust. The connection that this approach has to suicide is that it advocates a one-hard-hat philosophy that consciously places value on all workers and disciplines. It focuses on putting employees and the project first.   Kevin shares about the frustration–even the embarrassment–that he and others in the industry took so long to recognize this problem.    Kevin points out that we can’t realistically recruit young talent and muscle if we can’t show that we’re concerned about all-around employee wellness. This means considering several things:

• work site conditions,
• time away from family,
• length of the work day,
• consistency of jobs,
• availability of medical care for traveling workers,
• additional concerns that exist with military veterans, who might have lingering.

  Kevin explains that it’s about actually listening to and hearing the responses when we ask a coworker, “How are you doing today?”    Kevin emphasizes that no program will work if the leaders within the organization are not genuinely invested in promoting mental health. Leaders must realize their obligation to advocate in this area.   Here are a few specific resources that Kevin recommends for owners and managers interested in addressing mental health concerns with their companies:

• American Foundation for Suicide Prevention
• The Construction Industry Alliance for Suicide Prevention
• United Group Services Youtube Channel (search for suicide prevention)
• Cal Beyer
• The Suicide Prevention Hotline: 
  • Phone #: 988
  • Text line: 741741 

  Kevin’s megaphone message: Our industry has a problem in relation to mental illness. It’s killing more workers than anything else. We need to address it.   (By the way, here’s a link to the Jennifer Castenson Forbes article in which she quotes Eddie.)

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