Common Threads: An Interfaith Dialogue (Fred Stella, Kaufman Interfaith Institute, WGVU-FM, Interfaith Dialogue Association, Grand Valley State University)

OK, so we all know we need to have a little patience with those in our midst who are newly in love. They may get dewy eyed, drone on a bit long about their newfound happiness, and refer to this Gift from Heaven as their soulmate. So we must ask, is there such a thing? If so, why do so many "soulmates" part in anger years (or months...or weeks) later? Well, here are 2 episodes that explore the notion. Our guest is Bradley Onishi, Associate Professor of Religious Studies at Skidmore College. Dr. Onishi joins us to discuss his article ‘What’s Behind the Belief in a Soulmate’ on the website The Conversation.

Not long ago Convicted Felon D. Trump began shamelessly hawking "Greenwood" Bibles that include not only all 66 Protestant canonical books but The Constitution and Bill of Rights as well. A serious problem we have in the USA is that a number of American citizens believe that our founding documents are quasi-scriptural. In their minds, the Founding Fathers were tapping into The Mind of God when composing such. Now, it's hard to deny that these writings offer some literally world changing ideas that have allowed us as a country to evolve in ways that other nations were not able to do. But they are far from infallible. And of course, any documents are only as good as the people who interpret them. In these episodes our guest Aziz Rana shares his concerns as to how The Constitution has failed us in many ways, and how this Supreme Court is poised to do serious damage to the American people. Not for the faint of heart, but a great conversation. Listen. Learn. Repeat.

This is a great conversation with author Erik Seeman about the passion Americans have had for communication with the dearly departed. These 2020 episodes offer excellent insight into how we became the culture we have. Listen. Learn. Repeat.

If you are a devotee of mythologist Joseph Campbell you know his mantra for years was "follow your bliss." In the proper context, this can be a wonderful aspiration. However, some may take it at face value and end up living a rather selfish, vapid existence. Fr. Adam Bucko turned this saying on its head by titling his book "Follow Your Heartbreak." By this he means that we can find great fulfillment by looking to serve those on the margins of society. Believe me, this is a man that has been walking his talk for ages. Listen to this and be inspire to be the change you want to see.

OK, OK! Maybe not THAT ISIS. This is pretty funny, not to mention ironic. As I'm going through all these ancient programs from the early years (these are probably 2002 or 03) I find a cassette that I don't recall. It turns out to be a couple of episodes featuring Syed Misra from The Institute for the Secularization of Islamic Society. You know...ISIS. Is that not a stitch! It's really a great conversation. Here is someone who was raised in the religion explaining his longstanding issues with the religion. He does say a few things that I would challenge him on if I interviewed him today. I mean, he talks about Muslim nations, claiming that there is no such thing as a Christian or Jewish nation. Really? Ever hear of Israel? But the point is still valid that even in Israel the law of the land is not right out of the Bible. As with many of these old shows, the contact information isn't accurate. While I can find information on ISIS online, I cannot find a functioning website.

Dr. Kelly James Clark joins us to talk about his book, ‘God and the Brain: The Rationality of Belief.’

Dr. Clark is Senior Research Fellow at the Kaufman Interfaith Institute and Professor at Grand Valley State University. Additional books by Clark include ‘Written to be Heard,’ ‘Strangers, Neighbors, Friends,’ ‘Return to Reason,’ and ‘When Faith Is Not Enough.’

There are many people of faith who, upon maturing in their spiritual growth, become willing to view the stories that surround the origins of their religions as more allegorical than historical. Admittedly, it's perhaps more challenging to find Muslims who are open to this understanding about their tradition than Jews or Christians. My understanding is that those Muslims who do question the historicity of the their scriptures tend to become ex-Muslims. In these episodes we explore how the Qur'an was created. As with all ancient religions, there is always a bit of a chasm between what academia discovers through the historical process and what the faithful are taught to believe. Sometimes it gets tense.

Over the years I've hosted my cousin Tom Stella several times. If you scroll down all the episodes here I think you'll find him 2 or 3 times. Well, as I continue to dig through all these old cassettes that I'm digitizing, lo & behold, I find the very 1st shows we recorded. At this time, in 2000, Tom had his 1st book in mind. The working title was The Essence of Us. When it finally hit print it became The God Instinct. Keep in mind that all contact information is probably not valid today. This was a lot of fun to do. I'm very pleased that these episodes were saved.

This is from 2001. I interview 2 promoters of Avatar, a for-profit org that "sells enlightenment." OK, that's a bit overblown. But if you search the internet you'll find many ex-members who tell the same sad tale of being taken for a ride by these guys. That said, I'm sure there are elements of what they teach that are of value. But I assure you that these bits of wisdom are found in multiple places that don't charge thousands of dollars to learn. I recorded a special intro to these episodes to offer context.

One of the great things about the USA is our tradition of the road trip. Not just because we can get from one place to another with relative ease, but as we zoom through many parts of rural America we are able to observe many expressions of our quirky side. Case in point: Route 66. I've loved my time on what is left of the Mother Road. And what makes this special are the oddities and brilliant examples of human ingenuity. In his book Roadside Religion, Tim Beal shares with us his journey across the country as he records his experiences with organic displays of religious piety. Most of the time I have no problem that this is pure radio with no video. Here, I do wish otherwise. 1st aired in 2005. Enjoy.

These episodes aired in 2006. Meredith Jordan has appeared on Common Threads a few times. She's really an insightful woman. Her books are still available, but doing a quick web search, I am not able to locate her. Her organization Rogers McKay doesn't seem to have a presence as well.

Sarah Feinbloom talks about her film, ‘What Do You Believe Now: The Spiritual Journeys of American Millennials'

I'll provide a little epilogue here. Calvin College did not respond well to Stephanie's extracurricular activity here. From everything I've heard, she sort of drew a target on her back. They were not as progressive as she indicated on air.

I'm happy to report that Stephanie is now a prof at Washington & Lee University in Virginia, & appears by all signs to be thriving in a more secular culture.

Be sure to ignore all dates, phone numbers, etc. Remember, this took place in 2008.

This one is probably from 1998 or 99. Can't swear. But I love hearing my old friend & colleague Mehdi Lalani discuss both the Sufi & Ismaili traditions of Islam. His knowledge & devotion are palpable. Mehdi & his family moved from Grand Rapids ages ago. I forget where. I've tried to locate him on social media, but to no avail. I do miss the guy.

These episodes might not be of interest to many outside of Michigan, but we are proud & pleased that the venerable Aspen Institute took notice of our very progressive interfaith engagement scene here in Grand Rapids. Very few cities have gone where we have to the extent that we have. No brag, just fact. So I sat down with Aspen's Joe DeMott to find out just what he found out after spending time here. If you are interested in Joe's report you can find a copy of his report here: https://www.gvsu.edu/cms4/asset/843249C9-B1E5-BD47-A25EDBC68363B726/interfaith_in_w_mich-online_version.pdf

Dr. Brian Bowdle is a Psyche prof at Grand Valley State University, where Common Threads originates. He's also a good friend. One evening we're together, & start talking about finding meaning in life. Then he brings up a book, "The Birth and Death of Meaning: An Interdisciplinary Perspective on the Problem of Man " by Ernest Becker. I'd never read the book, but it sounded intriguing. He lent it to me, & after I finished it I told him that this was a good fit for the show. So that's how it ended up here. Enjoy. Recorded in 2016.

Back in 2016, Grand Valley State University (where Common Threads originates) presented its 20th annual lecture on diversity. The guest speaker was Dr. Dafina Lazarus-Stewart. The topic was bringing religion into the public square, and how to navigate the appropriate protocol and respect for pluralism. These episodes preceded the event, serving as a bit of a sneak preview.

I'm not sure when we aired this episode, but it had to be in the late '90s or very early 00s. I just did a search, & the only presence IA has these days in our state seems to be as a student org at University of Michigan. The last time their website was updated was 2004. IA still has a national presence, & you can find them here: www.interfaithalliance.org The one our guest offers is no longer valid. Their mission certainly is a noble one. Enjoy.

Today we discuss the autobiography that traces Francis X. Clooney's intellectual and spiritual journey from middle-class American Catholicism to a lifelong study of Hinduism. It explains how he came to fashion comparative theology as a way of learning interreligiously that is boldly intellectual and deeply personal and practical, lived out in intersections of his roles as theologian and scholar of Hinduism, as professor and Catholic priest, and over the tumultuous decades from the 1960s until now, in his role as a Professor of Divinity, Harvard University. Clooney sheds fresh and realistic light on the idea and ideal of scholar-practitioner, since his wide learning, Christian and Hindu, is grounded in his Catholic and Jesuit commitments, as well as in a commensurate learning with respect to several Hindu traditions that are most accessible to scholars willing to learn empathetically and in a participatory manner. What Clooney has learned and written must be understood in terms of a love of Christ deeply informed by a Hindu instinct for loving God without reserve. A fundamental spiritual disposition - intuitions of God present everywhere - has energized his work over his long career, love giving direction and body to his professional academic work.

Poet, teacher, and storyteller Mark Nepo joins us on Common Threads to discuss his book The One Life We’re Given in these 2017 episodes. Mark Nepo has published 18 books and recorded 13 audio projects. In 2016, he was named by Watkins: Mind Body Spirit as one of the 100 Most Spiritually Influential Living People, and was also chosen as one of OWN's SuperSoul 100, a group of inspired leaders using their gifts and voices to elevate humanity. Mark was part of Oprah Winfrey's The Life You Want Tour in 2014 and has appeared several times with Oprah on her Super Soul Sunday program on OWN TV. He has also been interviewed by Robin Roberts on Good Morning America.

Back in 2017 I was made aware that Calvin College's seminary was hosting an event that focused on interfaith/multi-faith engagement that had no hidden agenda of conversion attempts. Needless to say, this intrigued me. It happened that I had to attend a funeral on this particular day; otherwise, I'm sure I would have been there. Fortunately, I was able to make a connection with 2 of the presenters. One of them was John Morehouse. This was a great conversation. John Morehead is our guest. John is the Director of the Foundation for Religious Diplomacy and the Western Institute for Intercultural Studies. John is co-editor and contributing author for ‘Encountering New Religious Movements’ and editor of ‘Beyond the Burning Times a Pagan and Christian in Dialogue.’

It seems like I must be a mutant American, as I have such little interest in the British monarchy. I always seemed to know just as much as a tabloid cover in a check-out stand would tell me. So I came to The Crown with a bit of an attitude. But my wife knows good TV, and she did persuade me. And yes, I got hooked. Love it. Cant' wait for the next season. I did notice how religion has a rather significant role to play in the show. As you might know, the reining monarch is the titular head of the Anglican Church. Well, Fr. Christian Brocato is a local friend here in Grand Rapids who pastors an Episcopal (a denomination within the Anglican Communion) church. When I found out he was a fan as well I thought he'd be a great fit for a couple of episodes to discuss this. From 2020.

Many years ago I interviewed a local minister for the Metropolitan Church here in Grand Rapids. The denomination was formed specifically to focus on the needs of gay Christians. In its early days, the church the same very fundamentalist theology that most of the congregations who expelled their gay members did. Over the years they have embraced a more progressive spiritual world view. I don't have a copy of that original program from way back when. But one day while we were staying in our Florida condo for a few days, my wife tells me that she met our neighbors in the complex; 2 women, one of whom was the denominational head of Metropolitan. Well, we got to know them both quite well over the years, and when we do go down we always try to arrange a dinner out to catch up. Nancy Wilson is a remarkable spiritual leader. I hope you give this a listen. Enjoy.

One of the things I love to do from time to time is take advantage of the opportunity to promote some of the great programming that we air on our sister station WGVU-TV, our areas PBS affiliate. In May of 2021 PBS stations across the country aired a remarkable documentary on the life of Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel, one of the most influential clergymen and academics of the 20th century. If you'd not heard of him, or know little of his story, do give this a listen. And look for showings of the documentary in your area. Our guest is Martin Doblmeier, the founder of Journey Films Inc, a film and television production company focused creating content on religion, faith and spirituality. Martin holds degrees in Religious Studies, Broadcast Journalism and honorary degrees in Fine Arts and Humane Letters. Since 1984 he has produced and directed more than 30 films focused on religion, faith and spirituality. His films include Bonhoffer (2003) The Power of Forgiveness (2007), An American Conscience: The Reinhold Niebuhr Story (2017), and Backs Against The Wall: The Howard Thurman Story (2019).

Carl Plantinga is a professor of film and media at Calvin University, where he has taught since 2000. Carl's books include ‘Screen Stories: Emotion and the Ethics of Engagement;’ ‘Moving Viewers: American Film and the Spectator’s Experience; and Rhetoric and Representation in Nonfiction Film.’ He also co-edited ‘The Routledge Companion to Philosophy and Film’ and ‘Passionate Views: Film, Cognition, and Emotion.’ Plantinga is the past president of the Society for Cognitive Studies of the Moving Image and is also an editorial board member of Projections: The Journal for Movies and Mind.

OK, these episodes from 2004 might not be the most popular with folks, but I could be wrong. Way back then we never figured that anyone outside of West Michigan would ever hear these, so much of the subject matter was local in nature.This is when podcasting meant using beans for bait, I guess. Anyway, I don't mean to disparage our guest. Sacha Bier has been a great advocate for interfaith activism in our area. I'm just not sure how much people in the far flung corners of the world will care about our subject matter. As always with these golden oldies, please ignore all phone numbers & other contact information. Sacha's Sacred Space no longer exists.

I'm pretty sure this episode is from 2004. Our guest is John Rao from the Theosophical Society. I really enjoyed listening to this right now. John, as I recall, was really a good guy. He gave much of himself to his path. As I do a great deal of the time, when I come across an old cassette to digitize and upload I check to see what might have come of our dear guest. To save you the work I can say that by my searches there are no traces of a West Michigan chapter of the Theosophists. The website is no longer valid. I did not try the phone number. Regardless, I think you'll enjoy this conversation as well.

It occurred to me back in 2017 that of all the different expressions of Christianity there are, the Coptic Church gets very little ink. They have been a major presence in the Middle East for 2 millennia. So, I connected with Monique El-Faizy for some conversation. You'll like this.

Our guest is Ryan Armstrong, author of The Book of Job in Wonderland Of all of the great works of literature that might be compared, the idea of setting the text of the Book of Job next to the 19th century classic Alice in Wonderland probably doesn't come to mind. But Religious Studies professor Ryan Armstrong did notice more than a few links between them and presents them in his book The Book of Job in Wonderland: Making (Non)Sense of Job's Mediators.Yes, serious theological study and whimsy can certainly be paired on occasion, and this is one of those. What do Job and Alice have in common? What characters in Wonderland might resonate with God, Satan and the friends of Job? And what can we take from this connection, if indeed there is one? Join us for this fascinating (and yes, whimsical) conversation. Ryan M. Armstrong is Visiting Assistant Professor of Hebrew Bible at Oklahoma State University. His research focuses on ancient Hebrew literature within its linguistic and historical context and its impact on interpreters throughout history.

In the late 1800s, a group of German-speaking Mennonites left southern Russia and journeyed into Central Asia following the end-time prophecies of a charismatic preacher. But while the story of these Mennonites’ perilous journey into Uzbekistan is riveting, for Sofia Samatar, the real story begins after the end of the world failed to arrive. In these 2023 episodes we discuss this fascinating personal journey with Sofia.

You don't have to 'be religious' to believe there may be a life after death. The Medium and the Minister explores psychical and religious approaches to the possibility of an afterlife. The tensions and conflicts between these two approaches and the heated controversies they have generated are illustrated by a number of case studies. These focus on the challenges posed by psychical research and spiritualism to orthodox religion as the ultimate authority for information and teaching about the afterlife. Prominence is given initially to the campaigns of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle and Sir Oliver Lodge which aimed to publicize the psychical evidence and to the Church’s reaction to them. Later developments and initiatives to try to reconcile the opposing positions are then examined in the light of further psychical research. The issues raised are shown to be still highly relevant to current beliefs and attitudes and to the question of what might constitute evidence for life after death. Roger Straughan is a delight to speak with. Enjoy

In the Hindu tradition there is the stage of life called Vanaprastha. It is when one retires from many family and professional responsibilities to dedicate more time to spiritual advancement. Our guest on these 2023 episodes is not Hindu, but Unitarian Universalist. Rev. W. Fred Wooden, and he is expressing this epoch in his life by pilgrimage. He has traversed the globe, honoring multiple religious traditions as he walks the well trodden paths of our ancestors. Fred is a longtime friend of mine. At one point in his ministry he had a radio show of his own: Faith & Reason. I was a frequent guest. When I was we called the episode "Common Freds." Much of our conversation here revolves around a recent pilgrimage he took in Japan. His reminiscences of that experience is recorded in the book "Basho and I Take a Long Walk."

When we produced these episodes in 2020 we were in serious doo-doo. Trump was still n the White House and Covid was at its peak. As we post these today, we are pleased to report that we have an honorable and empathic President and a vaccine that is working. So yes, we are in a bit better shape that before. But while the majority of registered Republicans believe that the election was stolen, it's still crazy. And we still need the tools that are offered by our guest.

Philip Goldberg returns to Common Threads to discuss his book, 'Spiritual Practice for Crazy Times: Powerful Tools to Cultivate Calm, Clarity, and Courage.'

Philip Goldberg is the author or co-author of numerous books; a public speaker and workshop leader; a spiritual counselor, meditation teacher and ordained Interfaith Minister.  A Los Angeles resident, he cohosts the Spirit Matters podcast, leads American Veda Tours and blogs regularly on Elephant Journal and Spirituality & Health.

Back in 2016 I was honored to be a guest at the Center for Foreign Relations in NYC for a 2-day conference on politics and religion. Let me tell you, I was in the midst of some of the greatest minds in the country. I tried to pretended to as smart as I could. I mean, how to you keep up with conversations with folks who insert "I'm working on my 2nd dissertation now" in the 1st minute of chatting? Please know that I'm not complaining. I loved it. I did meet some interesting people who did end up as guests on this show. And these 2 episodes are examples. About 16-17 years before I'd interviewed a local imam about the Islam and the urban Black experience. I recently discovered that episode in a box of cassette tapes, and did upload it to this podcast platform. Admittedly, this discussion is very similar. But the sound quality is better. You will find Imam Ronald Shaheed a very colorful and brilliant voice. Enjoy.

One of the most imaginative traditions in Judaism is called "Midrash." While the word is used in a few different ways, in this episode we are referring to that practice of taking biblical stories and "filling in the blanks" with imagined conversations, prequels and sequels. For instance, what might Adam and Eve discussed after leaving Eden? How might Sarah have reacted upon learning that Isaac was close to being sacrificed? Rabbis and some brilliant thought leaders down through the centuries have used this device to both educate and entertain. Our guest is Rabbi Jefferey Salkin, who will explore not only the Midrash of sacred scripture, but the use of it in secular literature and film. A perfect example is the play/movie "Wicked," which fills in the blanks of "Wizard of Oz."

Recently we posted the episodes that focused on The Gospel According to The Simpsons. This week I came across a show we did a year later (2004) with Jana Riess, the author of "What Would Buffy Do?" This book follows along the same lines, seeking the deep spirituality that is embedded in the series. I was never really a fan of the show, though I always thought Sarah Michelle Gellar was quite fetching. Regardless, I think we had a great conversation over these episodes. So all you children of the 90s, enjoy. Oh, I checked for myself. www.whatwouldbuffydo.net no longer exists. "

Well, a bar is not a place you'd really find a Muslim or an Evangelical (well, depending on the stripe, I guess) , but from what we often see in the media, you wouldn't find Muslims and conservative Christians walk into just about ANY place together. OK, maybe a courtroom to fight about the construction of a mosque in a rural community. But our guest today talks about the most ambitious interactions between those 2 faiths that I've ever heard. Bob Roberts of the Emir-Stien Center discusses his most impressive work with people all over the world--including Muslims. This show also came about due to the same Evangelical conference at Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI that gave us the previous episode, featuring John Morehead, in 2017.

Back in 2015 a friend alerted me to an article published by a local (Grand Rapids, MI) writer about her experiences going to Charleston shortly after the horrendous massacre at Mother Emmanuel Church. I thought it very powerful, & worthy of a discussion on Common Threads.

Story of how Nazis attempted to take over LA during WWII, but were thwarted by a group of Jews & Gentile allies.

These episodes come from 2007. They contain very insightful conversations with Prof. Joe Mackall, the author of the book Plain Secrets. The audio quality is OK, which is better than some of the classics I've uploaded of recent. I think you'll enjoy this.

Once again, here is a 2-part conversation with the author of a book that I recorded as an audiobook. If you are new to this podcast, it's something that happens now & then. Orgyen Chowang Rinpoche is a meditation master in the Nyingma lineage of the Buddhist tradition. He received his education and training for ten years starting at the age of fourteen at Larung Gar in Serta. In 2011, Rinpoche founded Pristine Mind Foundation. Rinpoche teaches across a broad range of audiences to students from many backgrounds including psychology students, business professionals, long-time Dharma practitioners, and yoga practitioners.

Every once in a while there will be episodes about projects that I've been personally involved in. This is that. These 2023 conversations are with Dr. Frank Tedesco of True Dharma International. He produced and directed a documentary that is intended to advise caregivers and medical personnel on providing comfort to those adherents in the Dharmic religions (Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism) who are nearing the end of life. It is a very powerful and significant work. I am honored to have narrated this film. If the discussions here interest you enough, please go to https://youtu.be/7PCUviLdyw0 to watch the film in its entirety.

It's odd to imagine, but even the very progressive Unitarians & Universalists were slaveholders back in the day. This interview from 2019 with Colin Bossen is a fascinating account.

In 2008 Calvin College hosted a weekend long event that celebrated plant based diets. They drew their inspiration from biblical teachings. Now, Calvin is a very conservative school, but there is a progressive undercurrent that runs through its faculty & student body.

Our guest in these episodes was a keynote speaker. Christine Gutleben is the Director of Faith Outreach at the Humane Society.  She makes a great argument for her movement. 

If they only taught this in Religion classes! I promise students would be way more engaged. In these episodes we dive into the fascinating and overlooked aspects of the Catholic faith with Michael Lichens, the author of The Weird Catholic Handbook. We’ll examine peculiar and intriguing elements of Catholic history, offering a refreshing perspective on the faith that combines humor, curiosity, and profound insights. These include many bizarre and extraordinary stories that have shaped Catholicism. From saints who faced mythical monsters to the eerie beauty of bone chapels, this book uncovers the spiritual and historical significance behind these oddities. With a blend of scholarly research and engaging storytelling, Lichens brings to life the unique relics, ghostly encounters, and unusual miracles that have been part of the Church’s rich tapestry.

Not long ago I made my way through the limited series "Unorthodox" & the 2 full seasons of "Shtisel." Both offer more than a glimpse into the most orthodox of the Jewish communities. I wanted to get a practitioner's view on these. So I did. Enjoy.

We interview an author about the sociological value of marriage from back about 15 years ago. His views have changed. He was pretty hardcore about opposing marriage equality, which he discusses in these episodes. A quick web search indicates that he's done a 180. Huzzah.

I'm guessing that these episodes aired around 2003 or so. Not certain. Anyway, they were interesting conversations. But if you listen to me talk about our guest's various initiations and positions it sounds a bit overwhelming. I admit that I'm a bit skeptical about people who dip their toes in SO many spiritual traditions. But know that this is a personal bias. Judge for yourself. The thing that I find interesting is that he had multiple goals in establishing ministries to cater to those seeking more esoteric paths. It seems that nothing he offers here every panned out. In posting these old shows I often check the web to see where they are these days. My searches for John show almost nothing. And what I do see is all from the early 2000s. Do keep this in mind when listening. None of the websites he offers is active. To be clear, I am very interested in Gnostic teachings. You'll find other programs in our collection of shows that I think are more informative.

The challenge with taking a critical look at the Bible is that people tend to treat it as just one book, as opposed to thinking of it as a library, which is certainly closer to the mark. Yes, there are those who give  the accounts of both Adam and David the same credibility. But those people are usually not archeologists, and credentialed historians. 

Then, of course, you have your knee-jerk skeptics who say that everything in the scriptures is pure mythology.  Thankfully, there is a middle path that encourages each account to be taken at its own value.  In these 2019 episodes we bring back a dear friend to the show. Sheldon Kopprel  is one of those amazing people who is able to percolate from both sides of the brain. Dr. Kopprel is a  now  a retired professor of Science (he was still working when this aired), as well as a very well studied scholar of Jewish theology. His days often began by rising at 4am to  delve into the depths of the Bible and Talmud. 

 

These shows are follow-ups to Episode #192 of this podcast series. Our guests for these weeks in 2000 were authors Sharan Newman & Caroline Roe. As with our guest previously, these women were here in Grand Rapids for the annual Historical Fiction Conference in Kalamazoo, which has been in existence for almost 50 years. Thanks to a dear friend (Jo Ellyn Clarey) who suggested these 2 very interesting people to join us.

In these 2002 conversations I discuss how the Baha'i faith deals with issues of race. Unlike most other religions, the Bahai's really go out of their way to promote interracial couplings.David is that author (with his wife Barbara) of "Marriage Beyond Black & White." I recall telling the story of my father's discovery while jogging recently. I'd forgotten that I told it here. It had a real impact on me, as you'll hear. But you gotta listen, of course.

The challenge of having a government sponsored body that critiques the religious freedom of other nations is discussed.

I find it fascinating how so many of the old, diminished traditions around the world are being revisited by people in the 21st century. We see this with those exploring the ancient mythologies of Egypt, Rome, Greece, Scandinavia, Central America, and of course, Celtic culture. These are delightful episodes that feature conversations with Anne Cates Sullivan, who authored 2 award winning books on the goddess tradition of Ireland. Enjoy

While I do respect the power, history & impact of all religions. I have to admit that I have a very hard time with the concept of Hell as it is portrayed in Christian and Muslim theology. Others may have similar dark afterlife regions, but often there is the option of redemption in the future. Well, one of my favorite guests over the years, Brian McLaren, wrote a book that came out in 2005 called "The Last Word & the Word After That." He's certainly not the 1st Christian leader to question perdition, but the fact that he identifies as Evangelical Christian makes him rare. I loved these conversations.

One of the most important aspects of the interfaith movement is raising the bar from mere tolerance (Hey, I'll let you live!) to pluralism, which encourages actual engagement with those of different theologies while still maintaining one's own personal beliefs. For years now, Harvard has measured this movement in the US and occasionally helps those interested in our religious landscape get a better understanding of where we are and the conversations that still need to happen. In her new book "Pluralism in Practice" Elinor Pierce examines several recent case studies where members of religious groups have had to work out challenging issues with other groups or local governments. Each one is a compelling story in its own right.

Continued conversation about religion in pop culture & media.

Believe me, I will not be insulted if you don't listen to this one. It's from 2000, & the audio fidelity is really poor. Sometimes I'm not sure why I upload these oldies. But hey, if it speaks to just a handful of people I'd be pleased.

So remember: All of these dates are from 20 years ago. Don't try to buy tickets!

I really doubt I need to warn you. 

I'm about halfway through uploading all the oldies from the vault (box). I will then resume uploading more recent shows, which you may find at 

                                          www.wgvunews.org/term/common-threads 

As I mention in my introduction, I've got a soft spot in my heart for heretics. They tend to be colorful characters with a story to tell. Well, Jacob Frank was no exception. These episodes explore this visionary/cult leader/misbegotten messiah/iconoclast. Seriously. Listen to these conversations with brilliant theologian Jay Michaelson. You'll thank me later.

What a bonus! I found this cassette that was simply marked "June 8, 1999." I popped it in, & found that it was an interview that I did with my dear brother.  What makes this ever so special is that we had just recently seen one another for the 1st time in 7 years. He had been in Thailand, Sri Lanka, Burma & Australia during that period.

As you'll hear, he describes his life as a monk in a very austere order. Those years also had him studying for his Ph.D at the University of Western Australia in Renaissance  Italian Studies.

It was such a joy to hear this conversation that happened over 2 decades ago. In 2014 my little brother passed away much too early. He was only 55. So I'm glad we have this with which to remember him.

You'll note that next to his rich baritone voice I kinda sound like Minnie Mouse. Not even Mickey--Minnie!

On an evening not too long ago, Bay Area high school student Ritu Balani hosted an event that allowed fellow students and community members to share with an audience their most intimate spiritual and religious stories. These 2023 episodes contain a conversation with Ritu, as well as excerpts from the night itself.

I don't recall just when these episodes were broadcast, but I'm quite sure it would have been sometime between 2005-10. If you happen to be a Bible nerd I think you'll enjoy this. Our guest Andy Gaus is not a scholar in biblical languages. But he seems to make a serious case for his translation of the New Testament. Give a listen. Enjoy.

John Morehead joins us for a couple of episodes to talk on the book he co-edited called, ‘The Paranormal and Popular Culture: A Postmodern Religious Landscape.’ John Morehead is a researcher, writer, and speaker in intercultural studies, new religious movements, the biocultural study of religion, intergroup emotions and social psychology in religious intergroup conflict, and multi-faith engagement, as well as theology and popular culture. He is also the Director of the Evangelical Chapter of the Foundation for Religious Diplomacy. John blogs on religion through the fantastic in popular culture at www.theofantastique.com.

Eschatology (the study of end times predictions) has always fascinated me. I'm pleased that these 2023 episodes explain a great deal that I'm sure many of us did not know. Prof. Donald Akenson provides great details on how fundamentalist theology made its way from Britain and Ireland to these shores. This scriptural interpretation has been the cause of a great cacophony of imprecise prognostications that have left many Christians heartbroken and disillusioned. Yet, the beliefs continue...and continue..and, well, you know.

I can't even guess when this was recorded. I'm guessing in the early 00s. I'm interviewing Gary Wackenhut, who along with his wife make up the Collecting Consort. They specialized in creating a healing environment with their music to those in hospice or other circumstances where their talents were needed.

There is no one way that women react after having an abortion. Some can move on with their lives almost immediately. Some may regret their decision. Yet others acknowledge a psychic and emotional pain that requires a healing, though they do not regret their choice. Kassi Underwood falls into that 3rd category. She uses that pain to investigate the healing rituals and practices of various religions. It is through this work and the book (May Cause Love) that she is brought to wholeness. These episodes that aired in 2017 contain some of the most intimate conversations that have taken place on CT. I really think you'll like this. Enjoy.

Gulwali Passarlay is an Afghan political refugee. He joins us to talk about the plight of refugees around the world and the book he's co-written about his experiences called, The Lightless Sky. This is from 2015. A really great conversation.

We discuss the book, "Freeing Celibacy" with a Catholic Priest

I haven't counted how many episodes we've posted so far with the esteemed teacher Swami Bodhanada. Well, here are 2 more. These aired in 2004. As always, please ignore any promotions for events that are included in our conversations. Also featured here is Dr. Ruth Harring, a remarkable scholar in her own right. Very few are able to explain the non-dual philosophy of Vedanta with such clarity as Swamiji. Enjoy.

These episodes, from 2008, are conversations with Morgan Atkinson. He wrote the book & TV special "Soul Searching," an in-depth discovery of Thomas Merton and his pioneering spiritual work. Sometimes for the heck of it, I tune into EWTN, the hardcore conservative Catholic radio network. Recently on a call-in show someone asked a priest about Fr. Merton. One might guess that his take on Merton was less than favorable. While he is often regarded as a "patron saint" of the Catholic contemplative movement, there are many in the Church who would wish him to be excommunicated posthumously. But as you'll hear here, this was a flawed, but deeply spiritual giant.

Our conversation continues with the author of the book that exposed antisemitism in LA during WWII.

Of all the theories of afterlife that permeate the various world religions, the concept of rebirth is the only one that has actually been studied by science. Many are amazed by the fact that the University of Virginia has an entire department dedicated to such research. And this effort isn't found in the halls of Philosophy, Religious Studies or some course on alternative spiritual practices. This all happens within the labs of UV's medical school. Dr. Jeffery Long is the editor of an impressive journal that expresses a variety of opinions on this subject. This is a fascinating discussion. Seriously.

We explore the journey of our guest who walked away from a lifetime of practicing a fundamentalist version of Christianity.

As much as I enjoy sex (ahem...I mean discussing it academically, of course), I wouldn't have produced these episodes unless the subject matter was somehow related to religion/spirituality. And it turns out that this is a perfect fit. Our guest is Fr. Robert Francouer. Yes, that Fr. means Father. Robert is a Catholic priest. What does a Catholic priest really know about sex? Well, at least we know that he does have some 1st hand experience. You see, Fr. Francouer is a married Catholic priest. This is a really great couple of conversations. I hope you enjoy. Oh, I'm not 100% sure when we aired these, but 2001 is a good guess.

I believe this all started in 2004, when I was asked to write an article. You'll hear all about it in the introduction. I can't remember just how I found our guest. Kate Lynns has, as you will hear, an impressive resume. I'm really quite surprised that I can't seem to find her online today. I always like knowing what happened to my guests from years past. Regardless of her status today, I think you will find this an extraordinary conversation. She makes a great case opposing GW Bush's policy of Faith Based Initiatives. Listen. And hey, if you do run into Kate, let her know I'm looking for her.

The problem with theocracies is that it's much easier to be branded a heretic or a blasphemer, which can be illegal. The Ahmadhiyya sect of Islam is branded just that in Pakistan; which is, for all intents and purposes, a Muslim theocracy. It's one of 2 countries that have large numbers of members. The other one is neighboring India. One might assume that it's easier for a Muslim to be a Muslim in a Muslim nation, more so than in a majority Hindu nation. Not so. India has an ethos of pluralism that accepts theological diversity much easier than Pakistan. In these episodes from 2019, I speak with Fazeel Khan, an Ahmadhiyya Muslim from Pakistan, who offers us a history of his particular movement, and the trials that a lack of religious freedom bring. A footnote to this: Fazeel & I became fast friends. In the summer of that year he invited me to address a world convocation of Ahmaddhiyya Muslims in Columbus, Ohio. It was a rare privilege, for which I am quite grateful.

One of my favorite people in interfaith circles in West Michigan has been Len Robinson. This dear friend passed away earlier this year, 2020. I had him on the program several times. These episodes from 2016 revolve around a recent trip to Israel he'd taken. Len was such a great soul. And funny. Whenever there was a panel discussion you did not want to follow him. He left the crowd in stitches, yet still edified. You really will enjoy this.

Fr. James Martin has a reputation of being a very inclusive thinker in Catholic circles. So much so that he occasionally get in trouble Case in point: In this 2018 interview he details the slings & arrows he endured for writing a book that encouraged a conversation within the Church about LGBT issues. Notice I said "conversation." The book does not call for rewriting dogma, blind acceptance of what is the current social norm, or violent revolution in the streets. Just a conversation. Believe me, he could write a new book just relating his experiences in writing this one. Good conversation is just click a way.

OK, if you skip this one you're forgiven. I'm still going through a big box of ancient shows, and the other day i came across this cassette. It is not an episode of Common Threads, but a recording of a conference we held on 11/6/1999. The problem is that this is a very, very BAD recording. I think someone just set up a tape recorder in the back of the room and hoped for the best. Some portions are easier to hear than others, but the big disappointment is that the keynote address by Brother Wayne Teasdale is perhaps the worst sounding of all the speakers. You might want to try to listen, but I suspect many will give up, and I don't blame them. Believe me, I almost just tossed this one. But it is a piece of IDA history. And the good news is that for some reason, Wayne's fidelity improves during Q&A. For those who are not familiar with Br. Wayne Teasdale, he became quite an iconic figure in the interfaith arena during the 80s, 90s and early 00s. He died much too young in 2004. During this time he was a great friend of IDA. So if no one listens that's OK. This will stand as "silent" tribute.

At the 2019 Parliament of World Religions I met a group of women at a booth that claimed they were fully ordained Roman Catholic priests. Needless to say, I was taken aback, and quickly questioned them, as I'm sure so many people do on a regular basis. How in the world can women be Catholic priests? The Church has made it abundantly clear that female clerics would be as impossible as men giving birth. So, how can this happen officially? Well, I ask you to listen to their story, offered by Mary Eileen Collingwood; and find out how Church law can deem an act "valid but illicit."

Diane Winston

Shortly after the march in Charlottesville, where "fine people on both sides" (yeah, right) met to protest with tiki torches (2017) I decided to call up my old friend Shel Kopperl.  Naturally, with Trump in the White House this was going to be a challenging 4 years for  American Jews, excepting those who will forgive anything in turn for an uber-hawkish stand on Israel. 

But those on the hard Left are not blameless. In these 2 episodes we do our best to sort things out in this quagmire.

Do you want to know a secret? Inside this rather centered post-middle-aged theologically minded radio host is a 14-year old girl who hasn't stopped screaming since she saw the Fab 4 on Ed Sullivan in 1964. To say I was & am a Beatles Fan borders on severe understatement. So to have chance to converse with someone who is not only like minded, but has the academic cred to (hobnail) boot was not something to pass on. So in 2017 I enjoyed to the hilt these discussions with Kenneth Womack. His Beatles-related books include Long and Winding Roads: The Evolving Artistry of the Beatles (2007) and The Cambridge Companion to the Beatles (2009), which was named as The Independent’s “Music Book of the Year.” In 2014, Ken published The Beatles Encyclopedia: Everything Fab Four. Ken’s books about the Beatles are included in the permanent collection of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s Library and Archives. Ken is Dean of the Wayne D. McMurray School of Humanities and Social Sciences at Monmouth University, where he also serves as Professor of English.

This is from 2016. And a fun fact is that before this interview I was cast to record the audiobook version of this work. So if you really enjoy these episodes, you can either read or listen to the book. Andrew Newberg, M.D. joins us on Common Threads to continue the conversation on his book, How Enlightenment Changes Your Brain. Dr. Andrew Newberg studies the relationship between brain function and various mental states. He is a pioneer in the neurological study of religious and spiritual experiences, a field known as “neurotheology.” His research includes taking brain scans of people in prayer, meditation, rituals, and trance states, in an attempt to better understand the nature of religious and spiritual practices and attitudes.

There's a great Seinfeld episode where a friend of Jerry's decided to convert to Judaism strictly for the humor.  I totally get that. I'm not Jewish, but I have had a fascination with the brilliance of their wit since I was a kid watching stand-up comedians on Ed Sullivan.  You'll hear me say in Episode #1 how Jewish humor appreciation was a must have if a relationship with a woman was to go anywhere. That's not hyberbole.

So when I found out that Ruth Wisse had written a book called "NO Joke: Making Jewish Humor," I had to track her down and get her on Common Threads.  I did. Now enjoy.

Ever wonder how we as a secular nation support chaplains in various aspects of our government? Whether one believes this is correct or not, we certainly have precedent--over 200 years of tax supported religious guidance in the form of chaplains, who serve in our military

Undoubtedly, one of the most powerful conversations I've ever had. Diet (pronounced like the insect repellent) Eman was a part of the the Dutch Resistance. She made tremendous sacrifices to help rescue Jews during their reign of terror. She has been honored by the state of Israel, & led a very public life here in Grand Rapids, MI up until her final years. She died at age 99 in 2019. We became friends after recording these shows in 2000. If you listen to one podcast of ours this year, this is the one.

I love well researched historical fiction. Most folks I know do as well. It occurred to a historian friend of mine that Common Threads might enjoy an interview with an author in such a genre. Obviously, any story that takes place in medieval Europe is going to be heavily influenced by the Christian church. This turned out to be a perfect fit. Author Margaret Frazer wrote a series of stories revolving around a detective-cum-nun that was quite popular, and very true to the time, Sr. Frevisse. These shows aired in 2003. Margaret died in 2013. I'm grateful we had these conversations. Here are 2 episodes

Yes, it may be dated, but it's often interesting to go back in time to find out where & what we were at any given moment. When this aired we were waiting with bated breath to find out if there was going to be the predicted Blue Wave. And if that was to be, what, if any, role would America's religious values of both the Left & Right have to do with it? We were blessed with that wonderful wave. It did a soul good to see it. In these episodes we talk with Mark Silk, a great observer of religion in the public square. So let's hearken back to those days of anticipation, as we begin to see the slow demise of The Donald.

Dr. Sam Harrington joins us for conversation on his book, ‘At Peace: Choosing a Good Death After a Long Life.’ Sam Harrington is an honors graduate of Harvard College and the University of Wisconsin Medical School, he practiced internal medicine and gastroenterology for more than 30 years in Washington, D.C. There he served on the board of trustees of Sibley Memorial Hospital, a member of the Johns Hopkins Health System, and the former Hospice Care of DC.

Clemson Sociology professor Andrew Whitehead discusses how Christian nationalism drives American politics in these 2020 episodes. Andrew has co-authored the book, ‘Taking America Back for God.’ Andrew Whitehead is an Associate Professor of Sociology at Clemson University. He is interested in how religion both shapes and is shaped by the surrounding culture and how this influences various social institutions, such as the family. Andrew is the author of over 30 peer-reviewed publications. Recently, his research on Christian nationalism and childhood disability and religion has been featured across a number of national outlets including the Washington Post, CNN Today, and The Huffington Post, among others. Andrew’s first book on Christian nationalism, with Sam Perry, is called ‘Taking America Back for God.’ It provides the first comprehensive empirical analysis of Christian nationalism in the United States.

This episode aired in 1999. It featured my conversation with Elaine Wahab. She grew up Catholic, but fell in love with & married a devout Muslim man. It's an interesting listen. Some theologians in both camps might find her estimations that the 2 religions are so close in thought a bit simplistic. Others, of course, will say that it doesn't matter. It certainly has worked for them. Today they both stand as a very good example of what a marriage should be.

A conversation about false claims of Heaven visitation continues.

When we think of the truly unique American Religious experiences, we must include the African-American church. And of course, the hallmark of that would be the preaching. Not only did it provide spiritual succor for the assembled, it became a powerful tool in the civil rights movement. In these 2 episodes we discuss this great tradition with a scholar who has made this his life's work.

These episodes are from 2000. They feature conversations with one of the most important people in the interfaith movement in West Michigan at that time. Joel Beversluis was an international presence. His passion for multi-religious cooperation drove his life. One of the most important things we discuss is the Millennium Summit that took place earlier that year. Sadly, Joel died in 2003. And it just occurs to me at this moment that those who are carrying on his work here in Grand Rapids (where we have such a robust interfaith effort) know nothing about him. We've done nothing to memorialize him. I'm hoping that putting this old show out there might change that. Joel, if you could only see what we've accomplished, I think you would be proud. Just know that we are standing on your shoulders.

In this episode we discuss a new film biography of Fr. Pierre Teilhard de Chardin with its producer/director Frank Frost. This remarkable man was a paleontologist and visionary French Jesuit priest. His lifelong effort to reframe his beliefs in the light of evolution led to a paradigm shift in the relationship of science and religion. Teilhard foresaw the emergence of the internet, globalization, technological innovation, and the embrace of human responsibility for continuing evolution. His legacy includes hope-filled spirituality and a robust environmental movement. He is now the subject of a two-hour biography on public television that captures his triumphs and trials, his love for the divine and the human, and his trust in the future.

Most of us have never heard of the ancient people known as the Yazidis. It has been only in recent times since the invasion of ISIS that resulted an unmerciful slaughter of so many. Houman Oliaei is a scholar at Kalamazoo College who has lived in Yazidi communities both in the USA and the Middle East. He provides an excellent history, including the theology and culture, of this remarkably resilient people.

A few things can be taken for granted about our penal system. For one, much of how we punish and/or rehabilitate prisoners is based on rather ancient codes. Also, religion has strongly impacted how we think about punishment. In these 2006 episodes my guests & I discuss how we can move away from a system that seems to work only sometimes, to a place of restorative justice that from all accounts, produces better outcomes--that is, less recidivism. Good stuff, Maynard.

For the past couple of decades conservatives have been planning and executing a takeover of our court systems. For some odd reason, Democrats have not paid as much attention to this. Thus we are experiencing a significant sea change in American juris prudence. What does this mean to how religion is expressed in this country? A great deal. The term "religious liberty" has been, in some instances, turned on its head. In these 2 episodes from 2023 we speak with Alan Brownstein, a constitutional lawyer and professor. His insights are valuable. Listen. Vote. Repeat.

Ever run into one of those people whose resumes are so bloody full of awesome accomplishments that you wonder why they even let you take up precious space on earth? Well this is one of those guys. James Thornton is a world-renowned environmental lawyer, author, poet, and Zen Buddhist priest. The New Statesman named him as one of 10 people who could change the world, and he has won the Financial Times Lifetime Achievement Award for Innovation in Law. James is the founder and president of Client Earth, the leading global not-for-profit law group who represent the natural world, advocate for policy changes that protect it, and hold governments and corporations accountable where policies have been violated. James is also the author of Client Earth which won the Judge’s Choice Business Book of the Year Award. In 2021, he was a judge of the Laurel Prize for the world’s best collection of eco-poetry, pointing to his deep understanding of the genre. Nature, My Teacher is his latest work. It is divided into 12 books, each a sequence of intimate essays, James investigates the nature of human consciousness. James discusses his own anxiety, why anxiety is a rational response to climate change, and he explains why environmental problems are mental problems. Both from his work as an environmental lawyer and his role as a Zen Buddhist priest, James shows us ways to find hope in a world under threat. This book is a meditation on those principles that will serve to both ease our fears and invigorate us to take action. Of course, I kid about those of us lesser mortals "taking up space" here. We all are worth something. Still. People like James do make one take stock.