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16 Mar 2022A Panoply of Pausals with Jennifer Weedon-Palazzo and Monique Cupid01:09:42

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Jennifer Weedon-Palazzo, creator of MomCave TV,  and Monique Cupid of Brown Skin Green Beauty are both brilliant content creators who are going through "some sort of pausal thing". Jennifer's mission to provide a community for moms who need a humorous outlet and Monique's drive to encourage women of color to be proactive in their health by using clean and nontoxic makeup and skincare are going strong, regardless of the fact that no doctor has offered them solutions for their night sweats and hormonal mood swings. Join us as we chat with them about the movie musicals that made us, the discovery that there are no grownups, and the most important topic of all: what does the word "panoply" mean and how should we pronounce it?

Jen's MomCave TV
MomCave Facebook
MomCave Insta
MomCave Twitter
MomCave Tik Tok
MomCave on BingeTV
Ellie's MomCave Series Potty Mouth
Monique's Brown Skin Green Beauty
Monique's Facebook
Monique's Brown Skin Green Beauty Insta
Monique's My Life in the Pause Insta
Monique's YouTube
Monique's Tik Tok
Monique's Blog
NY Times Article on Menopause Discrimination in the Workplace


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13 Apr 2022Ashwagandha is Not a Country with Kristin Johnson and Maria Claps01:01:26

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Functional nutritionist Kristin Johnson and functional health coach Maria Claps are the co-founders of Wise and Well, where they work with peri-menopausal and menopausal women in both one-on-one and group formats to create fundamental hormonal and whole health transformations. They joined our conversation "feeling salty", and we got to reap the benefits as they went off on how access to HRT is impaired by the Big Pharma-controlled government, how low Estradiol should NOT be taken lightly because it puts you at risk for cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer's, and osteoporosis, AND how the "mommy wine" and Cheetos need to GO. Whether or not you agree with them on that last directive, it is empowering AF to listen to women who don't tiptoe around their strong opinions and who take action to help people in the process. There is also plenty of fun to be had as Ellie and Julia discuss whether packing for a vacation should include collagen supplements or a bikini, and how penises on TV can be hypnotic.

Wise & Well Website
Facebook: @NourishandFlourishHealth
Instagram: @wise_and_well_
Twitter: @maria_claps
Jack Reacher may not like answering questions but I do!
Take action to protect compounding pharmacies here: https://www.mymedsmatter.com/
ACOG report on Compounded Bioidentical Menopausal Hormone Therapy

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27 Apr 2022The Gift of Weed and Patience with Nicky Smith and Cheri Paige Fogleman01:03:46

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Nicky Smith (AKA Nicky Styles) is a fashion stylist and Emmy-nominated costume designer who has worked on TV shows such as The Americans, Ramy, and Pose. Cheri Paige Fogleman is a celebrity trainer and fitness instructor who teaches on the live, daily fitness show, Daily Burn 365. Both are in their 40's and Cheri is TTC (an acronym for "trying to conceive"), while Nicky is grappling with fibroids.  We're sure you will enjoy their range of perspectives, from using an insurance company fertility allowance for banking embryos to adopting an attitude of "wait and see and accept that all is as it should be". Tune in and learn about the de-stressing benefits of weed, what it means to channel "your inner Brad", and find out just how many acronyms we can squeeze into an episode.

Body by Cheri
Cheri Insta
Cheri Twitter
Cheri Facebook
Nicky Styles
Nicky's Insta
Nicky's IMDB
Birth Control Pill Could Cause Long Term Problems with Testosterone
Cheri pregnancy workout Daily Burn: https://dailyburn.com/life/db/365-fit-pregnancy-workout/

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11 May 2022We Finally Got You a Therapist with Donna Klassen01:04:16

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Since the launch of this podcast, we have been promising to interview a mental health specialist to talk about perimenopausal anxiety and depression, and just in time for Mental Health Awareness Month, we got the best one ever! Donna Klassen is not only a licensed clinical social worker with more than 30 years of experience, she is the co-founder and CEO of Let's Talk Menopause, a nonprofit organization invested in changing the conversation around menopause so women get the information they need and the healthcare they deserve. Donna is candid, fast-talking, and FUN, so cozy up as we chat about radical acceptance, meds that help with hot flashes,  oophorectomies, and hippocampuses. Or is it hippocampi?

Let's Talk Menopause website
Insta: @letstalkmenopause
Facebook: @LetsTalkMenopause
Twitter: @LTMenopause
Donna Klassen Website
What is the Link Between Menopause and Anxiety?
Pristiq and Effexor are antidepressants that can help with hot flashes
Dr. Rachel Rubin - Urogynecologist
Replay past talks on Let's Talk Menopause
https://www.myalloy.com/

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08 Jun 2022The Hazardous Footstool with Georgia Clark01:09:44

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Georgia Clark is a novelist, performer, and screenwriter. She's the author of the newly released Island Time, as well as It Had To Be You, The Bucket List, and others. She is also the host and founder of the popular storytelling night, Generation Women, which Ellie has performed in and which we wholeheartedly love and recommend.  At the time of this recording, Georgia's wife was very pregnant with the human who is now their daughter, and though Georgia has not yet had to contend with symptoms or behaviors related to her own hormonal changes, she had some amusing things to say about pregnancy hormones. Join us for a very special Pride Month Pod where we manage to discuss boners, boobs, and babies, AND introduce our new favorite literary  object: The Hazardous Footstool.

***CONTEST ALERT***
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Georgia Clark website
Island Time book
Generation Women
Twitter: @georgialouclark
@GenWomenUS
facebook: @Georgia Clark
@genwomen
Instagram: @georgialouclark
@generation_women

What Happens When Trans Women Experience Symptoms Of Menopause?

Midlife Schmidlife podcast

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25 May 2022Hot Flashes, Healing, and Havening with Hilary Russo01:00:35

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Hilary Russo does everything. She is an award-winning television journalist, producer and multimedia host, a Certified Integrative Nutrition Holistic Health Coach &
Havening Techniques® Practitioner, a cast member of Daily Burn 365, professor of Mass Communications at St. John’s University, AND she has her own podcast: HIListically Speaking. As if that weren't enough to talk about, we discuss dating in a pandemic in your late 40's, nicknaming the amygdala "Amy", and learning to say no to others if it means saying yes to yourself.

Hilary Russo website
HIListically Speaking podcast
Hilary's episode featuring US as guests!

Hilary's twitter
Hilary's Tik Tok
Hilary's facebook
Hilary's Insta
Hilary's YouTube

SPECIAL GIFT FOR CTD LISTENERS:
Hilary is offering CTD listeners a guided Self-Havening experience to help you keep your hormones and hot flashes in check. From brain fog to sleep issues. Mood changes to body aches. Use this anytime you need support to get clear and calm and... yes, cool things down! Havening can also be used for everyday upsets about everything from stress and anxiety to deep rooted traumas (when working with a practitioner like Hilary). Discover how to be kind to your mind during your perimenopausal journey and Self-Haven to self-soothe with Hilary.

MORE from the episode:
 Do Those Stress-Relieving Drinks Really Work?
Julia's Wellness Coaching Website
Midlife with Courage podcast
Dan Buettner Blue Zones

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22 Jun 2022I AM BRAIN FOG with Brooke Haney and Desi Waters00:54:08

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How many hoops does a lesbian couple have to jump through in order to have a child? What is an intimacy coordinator? Whose hormones pull rank in a two-woman household where one is postpartum and the other is perimenopausal? Brooke Haney and Desi Waters join us to ponder these questions and even answer a few of them. We also discuss intolerance for uncomfortable shoes, experience brain fog before your very ears, and celebrate our one year pod-i-versary! Are we poddy trained yet?

IMPORTANT LINKS
Brooke Haney website
Brooke Haney facebook
Brook Haney Insta
The Actor's Warmdown
Desi Waters Website
Desi imdb
Desi facebook
Desi Insta
Desi twitter

Is Your Birth Control Messing with Your Nutrition?

Julia's preferred vitamin and supplement companies:
Thorne
Pure Encapsulations
Designs for Health

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18 May 2022#ihadanabortion - A CTD Bonus Episode!00:34:09

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Can you use "Covid" and "abortion" in the same sentence?  We can and we did.  More on that in today's special bonus episode where we talk about Julia's abortion, Ellie's mother's pre-Roe abortion, and Ellie's grandmother's illegal abortion in 1960's London... a discussion that was inspired by the current climate as well as Alison Leiby's one-woman show, "Oh God, A Show About Abortion."  If you too are feeling white hot rage in reaction to the SCOTUS draft decision leak along with fear and trepidation as we face the approaching dystopian hell-scape, this episode is for you!

Organizations that deserve your money!
Abortion Access Front
NARAL Pro-choice America
Center for Reproductive Rights
Holler Health Justice
New Voices for Reproductive Justice
Bold Futures
Planned Parenthood
Gender Justice
Texas Equal Access (TEA) Fund
The Afiya Center

If you will be in New York City in June, get tickets to Alison Leiby's "Oh God, A Show About Abortion" HERE



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03 Aug 2022Meet the Fibroids with Aileen Weintraub00:55:47

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Aileen Weintraub is an award-winning author, journalist, and editor, as well as the human home to three giant fibroid tumors. The discovery of these many years ago led to several months of forced bed rest during her pregnancy, but the silver lining (for us) was that the ordeal inspired her to write Knocked Down: A High-Risk Memoir. We devoured this book in about a week because it is hilarious, relatable, and compelling.  You should buy a copy right now, but first, listen to our chat with Aileen, learn how Ellie literally gaslit her son about her own rectal gas, and enjoy Julia's continuing angst over the lack of a perimenopausal pamphlet. (Seriously... somebody get her a pamphlet STAT!)

***CONTEST ALERT***
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Aileen Weintraub Website
Knocked Down: A High-Risk Memoir
Aileen's twitter
Aileen's facebook
Aileen's Insta
Aileen's HuffPost Essay
Aileen's other articles

Science: What Can Your Farts Tell You About Your Health?
A show that won't give you anxiety: The World According to Jeff Goldblum
A place for excellent information and webinars: Let's Talk Menopause

Goods and Services:
Julia's Wellness Coaching Website
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link

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20 Jul 2022Mom Friends + Poop Friends = Best Friends with Ashley Hearon Smith and Keri Setaro01:03:51

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We didn't know it was possible to find a pair of women willing to discuss boobs and vaginas and poop in as vivid detail as we do, but the universe granted us Ashley Hearon Smith and Keri Sotaro, and we couldn't be happier. Co-hosts of the popular Momtourage podcast, these hilarious women are known to drop a plethora of f-bombs about parenting, thus making them the relatable mom group rejects you didn’t know you needed. This episode covers the magical combo platter of postpartum AND perimenopausal hormones, the mental health issues associated with being a new mom, and the unique scent of a grandmother's vajayjay. How might one know what their Bubbe's nether regions smell like? You'll have to tune in to find out.

Momtourage Podcast
Momtourage Insta
Momtourage facebook
Momtourage YouTube
Momtourage TikTok
Ashley Hearon Smith website
Ashley's twitter
Ashley's Insta
Keri Sotaro website
Keri's Insta
Keri's facebook

Invisibilia Poop Friends episode
Julia's Wellness Coaching Website
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link

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06 Jul 2022Twice a Week Until Death Do You Part with Dr. Rachel Rubin01:04:36

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Our heads have officially exploded, people. Dr. Rachel Rubin is a board-certified urologist and sexual medicine specialist who dropped so much knowledge and helpful information into one conversation that our puny little brain-sponges got super-soaked. Listen to learn about the two little-known FDA-approved drugs that actually help women's libidos with no negative side effects, why you should be using local vaginal estrogen twice a week for the rest of your life, and how even a doctor can agree with us that the field of medicine is a disgusting dumpster fire of brokenness. As if that weren't enough, we also talk about the Grow Your Clit Movement, Covid Hemorrhoids, and what the hosts never thought they'd do in their 20's that they have done now. Admit it: you're intrigued.

DR. RUBIN'S LINKS
Dr. Rubin's Website
Dr. Rubin's twitter
Dr. Rubin's facebook
Dr. Rubin's Insta
Dr. Rubin's LinkedIn

ARTICLES AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE
The Magic of Hormones
International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health - ISSWSH
Addyi
Vyleesi
The Grow Your Clit Movement

LINKS TO DREAMY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link
Julia's Wellness Coaching Website

Circling the Drain Podcast Website

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17 Aug 2022Casseroles Are Everywhere with Michele Carlo and Sheria Mattis01:00:43

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When we get comedians and storytellers on the pod, they do not hold back. Michele Carlo and Sheria Mattis take us on the most terrific tangents, touching on Nuyorican vs. Jamaican culture, getting pounded by strap-ons after menopause, and the wild world of foot worship, all while dropping deep insightful wisdom that makes us scream YASSSSS! We also adopt the word "casseroles" as our new favorite euphemism, shake our fists at a male gyno's incompetence regarding the copper IUD, and even give you some new old songs to add to your playlist. Listen now, thank us later.

Sheria Mattis Website
Sheria's twitter
Sheria's YouTube
Sheria's Insta

Michele Carlo Website
Michele's facebook
Michele's twitter
Michele's Insta

No, YOU Tell It! featuring Sheria and Michele

ARTICLES
Copper IUD (Paragard)
Lupron: What You Need to Know
What the Controversy Over Turning Red Misses

SONGS
A Girl in Trouble (Is a Temporary Thing) by Romeo Void
Koffee by Toast
Groove Armada - I See You Baby (Fatboy Slim Remix Uncensored) ft. Gramma Funk

SHOP
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31 Aug 2022Stop Shoulding All Over Yourself with Liz Applegate00:54:19

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Liz Applegate is a life coach and fellow podcaster, whose show "Midlife Schmidlife" was born when she googled the term "midlife" and what came back was "the wrong side of 40". After talking to Liz, we believe she is on the right side of just about everything. Listen as we discuss the concept of "shoulding", undiagnosed postpartum depression, and whether 50-somethings should exclusively be wearing caftans. Emotions run the gamut as Ellie wants to be Liz's new bestie, and Julia gets extra feisty as she invents "Smelly Pirate Whore Island" and then unpacks the new 2022 North American Menopause Society's position on Hormone Replacement Therapy and whether or not it causes breast cancer. Short answer: it doesn't!

WHERE TO FIND LIZ
Liz Applegate Website
Midlife Schmidlife Podcast
Liz's Insta
Liz's facebook
Liz's twitter

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MORE FROM THE EPISODE
NAMS 2022 Statement
Celeste Barber Instagram

PRODUCTS AND SERVICES FOR YOU
JuliaG Wellness
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link

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14 Sep 2022We're Smart. We're Educated. We're Grown-Ass Women. with Laura Stratte and Jacqueline Giannelli00:59:31

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If you're like us, you have been frustrated with the lack of adequate perimenopause and menopause care provided (or NOT provided) by your current medical team. Enter Elektra Health, a digital health company with a mission to smash the menopause taboo by empowering women with evidence-based education, care & community. We were lucky to speak with Laura Stratte, their Program & Operations Manager, and Jacqueline Giannelli, one of their founding Nurse Practitioners who has been treating Julia's symptoms with much success. These ladies are all about education and empowerment, offering women honest risk-assessments and treatment options, and letting them lead the charge in their own menopausal healthcare journey. All of this may sound very medical and therefore serious in tone, but don't let that fool you. As always, there was plenty of laughter as we talked about the audacity of women daring to have a libido, the need for a webcam speculum in women's telehealth, and avocado tools.

GUEST INFO
Elektra Health Website
Elektra Health Insta
Elektra Health facebook
Laura Stratte LinkedIn
Jackie Giannelli LinkedIn

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EPISODE REFERENCES
Largest Study to Date Shows How Covid Vaccines Affect Periods
Healthy Aging Month
A Brief History of Naming Generations
Ellie's favorite avocado tool
Julia's Ancient Aliens show

PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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12 Oct 2022What's Gonna Happen to My Vagina, Auntie? with Omisade Burney-Scott01:14:31

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Omisade-Burney Scott is the coolest. She is the creator/curator of The Black Girls’ Guide to Surviving Menopause, a multimedia project engaged in culture and narrative shift work which includes, among other things, a podcast, a zine titled Messages From The Menopausal Multiverse, and the Say More Card Deck, which is a collection of conversation and journaling prompts that empower you to deepen your relationships with people in, preparing for, or supporting loved ones through menopause and aging — as well as your relationship with yourself. And that's not even all of it. We were a little intimidated by her accomplishments, confidence, and impeccable style, but after talking to her, we felt like we had been friends for years. Omi gives advice on happily controlling your doctor's appointments regardless of your personality type, nerds out with Julia about Quantum Physics, and confesses that when your hair turns grey, it turns grey EVERYWHERE. We also celebrate Menopause Awareness Month, and give you a list of some of our favorite people and resources for navigating this glorious moment. Don't miss this one!

WHERE TO FIND OMISADE & THE BLACK GIRL'S GUIDE TO SURVIVING MENOPAUSE, AKA BGG2SM
BGG2SM Website
The BGG2SM Podcast
BGG2SM Insta
BGG2SM Facebook
Omisade's Insta
The Say More Menopause Discussion Deck
The Say More Deck Open Source Tool Kit

TOP FIVE LIST OF MENOPAUSE PEOPLE AND RESOURCES, PART 1
Dr. Jen Gunter
Dr. Tara Allmen
Let's Talk Menopause
ISSWSH
NAMS

OTHER THINGS WE THINK YOU SHOULD CHECK OUT
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness
Our Website

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28 Sep 2022Meditating Calms Our Tits with Mark Price01:08:42

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Does the idea of meditating make you want to roll your eyes? Take a nap? Punch yourself in the face? We get it, and so does Mark Price. Our first ever male guest humbly joins us to talk about Vedic Meditation, also known as TM (Transcendental Meditation), and how incorporating this practice into your daily routine can help with stress, sleep disturbances, aggression, and many of the other perimenopausal symptoms we often discuss. If you're thinking this is too "woo woo" for you, too time-consuming, or that you can just use an app on your phone and get the same results, please give the episode a listen. Mark has an amazing sense of humor and is not trying to be your guru, and what he has to say may be the thing that convinces you to incorporate what has been a life-changing practice for both Ellie and Julia. In short, meditating has helped us calm our tits, and who doesn't want that?

How to find Mark
The Alchemy Collective
Mark's Insta
Mark's Facebook
About Mark Price as an actor and coach

Things We Mentioned in the Episode
How Transcendental Meditation Alters the Brain
Who is Wellness For? by FARIHA RÓISÍN
Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagoski
David Lynch Poster About Transcendental Meditation

Important Links
Julia G Wellness
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link

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26 Oct 2022It's OK to Say "Menopause" on TV with Tamsen Fadal and Jo Lamarca Mathisen00:54:54

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Tamsen Fadal and Jo Lamarca Mathisen call themselves Meno Sisters. They hit it off after a mutual friend "thrust them together" because of how much they both seemed to enjoy talking about menopause, and have remained extremely close ever since. Tamsen is an Emmy award-winning journalist and NYC news anchor who recently created #MenopauseTok on TikTok to bring creators together to share their menopause journey, and Jo (who has also won a few Emmys!) is the former Executive Producer of Today with Hoda & Jenna. They are now working together on a documentary called It’s Not Me…It’s (Me)nopause. We are thrilled to have them on the show for the second half of Menopause Awareness Month because, like us, they value the importance of spreading essential information about women's health in midlife, and they do it with humor wherever possible. We talk about the difficulties of working in television while experiencing brain fog, hot flashes, and anxiety, we ponder the discrepancy in our mental age and the age of our knees, and we spout off pithy aphorisms best suited for wall art made of wood.

Tamsen and Jo
It's Not Me... It's (Me)nopause documentary   
It's Not Me... It's (Me)nopause Insta
Tamsen Fadal Website
Tamsen Fadal Insta 
Tamsen Fadal Facebook
Tamsen Fadal Twitter 
Tamsen Fadal TikTok  - #menopausetok 
Joanne LaMarca Mathisen Insta   
Joanne LaMarca Mathisen Facebook

Menopause Awareness Month Roundup (Part 2)
State of Menopause
Digital Health Companies Elektra Health, Vera Whole Health, Gennev, and Alloy
Revel
The Functional Pelvis
Menopause Cafe

Addyi - FDA-approved women's libido drug

Julia G Wellness
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link

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09 Nov 2022The Currency of Youth and Cleavage with Rachel Fine01:03:37

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Ever heard of Shittens? They are disposable, mitten-shaped moist wipes that were created because "no one wants poop on their hands". Rachel Fine, our dear friend of over 20 years, is one of the inventors of Shittens, but she's so much more than that! You might know her as host of various shows on Howard Stern TV, reporter for Travel Channel's Paranormal Paparazzi, singer and songwriter of the album "Own Your Own", chief ambassador of the MacDella Cooper Foundation, and co-owner of the Gigglewaters Social Club & Screening Room in the Tampa Bay area. She also has two kids and at least that many pets. As if that weren't enough to cover, Rachel is here to tell us how her pesky varicose veins led to the discovery of a rare vascular condition called May-Thurner Syndrome. This is potentially life-saving information for our listeners, as the condition disproportionately affects women and is usually not found until after someone has died! We also talk about burnout, IV Ketamine treatments, and how your career shouldn't define you. It's easy to bounce from topic to topic when you're bouncing with your bestie.

Where to find Rachel
Rachel Fine Twitter
Rachel Fine Insta
Rachel Fine Facebook
Rachel Fine Website
Gigglewaters Social Club and Screening Room
Shittens

Mentioned in the episode
Thank You to Shittens from Project Hope
May-Thurner Syndrome
MacDella Cooper Foundation
Chronic pain is surprisingly treatable — when patients focus on the brain
Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagoski
Feminist Survival Project - Episode 63 - How to Listen to Your Body

Other things we want you to look at
Erin's Faces
Julia G Wellness

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23 Nov 2022Rock Stars Go Through Menopause Too with Kay Hanley and Elizabeth Hanley-Grande01:17:57

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Ellie was hanging out with a few of her friends when she overheard one of them talking about growing up with a sister who was in a famous rock band. Ellie said, "I didn't know this about you! Who is your sister?" Ellie then learned that her friend, Elizabeth Hanley-Grande, is the younger sister of Kay Hanley, lead singer of the band Letters to Cleo, whose hit single "Here and Now" was featured on the Melrose Place soundtrack and reached No. 10 on the Billboard Modern Rock Singles chart right around the time when Ellie was a senior in high school, making it one of her go-to rock anthems. Mind. Blown. Fast forward to the amazing idea to have our first ever SISTERS episode! We talk about what it was like growing up in a house with five women sharing one bathroom, having a mother who was very scientific about the body but very Catholic about premarital sex, and whether one's menopausal journey does or does not mirror that of one's sisters. We also touch on aging in the music industry, firing your doctors when they are crap, and how it's possible to NEVER see your sister's boobs. Listen to this episode and then go listen to Kay's music. Your earholes will be so happy.

Show notes:
Kay Hanley website
Kay Hanley Insta
Kay Hanley Facebook
Kay Hanley Twitter
Letters to Cleo

Dr. Jen Gunter
The Vajenda
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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07 Dec 2022Up the Hatch with Sari Botton01:00:47

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Sari Botton is a bestselling author, editor, and teacher with decades of experience, and we got to benefit from that life experience through engaging in a delightful AF chat with her.  We discuss how the idea for Oldster Magazine came to her in a dream, how it took her a long time to stop people-pleasing and come into her own, and how she uses a multi-purpose cream called Egyptian Magic for a true MULTITUDE of purposes. She also shares how a doctor refused to tell her the proper name for her "spongey uterus" and how she demanded to keep her ovaries in order to avoid going into surgical menopause. You know how we love stories of women advocating for themselves, so listen closely and take note. If the above isn't enough to entice you, listen to us talk about our facial hair/zit/wrinkle combo and how you should NOT put tobacco into your vagina to quit smoking. (But you knew that, right?)

Sari's Handles and Such
Sari Botton's website
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Oldster Magazine
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Show Notes
Don't Use Chewing Tobacco in the Vagina for Smoking Cessation by Dr. Jen Gunter
Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker
Allen Carr's Easy Way for Women to Quit Drinking
Egyptian Magic
Adenomyosis

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21 Dec 2022Scheduling Our Farts - A CTD 2022 Wrap-Up00:44:18

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Listeners... we're really going for it on our year-end wrap-up. At this point, we assume you have been listening regularly and that you don't need us to review every single guest we've loved and every lesson we've learned, so we decided to have a blast going rogue. Join us as we roll a set of sexy dice given to Ellie by her husbo, we review a map of porn fetishes broken down by U.S. state (sent to Julia by HER husband), and perform a dramatic reading of a particularly contentious email exchange with a potential guest who... spoiler alert... never appeared on the show. We also talk about drinking the "Stupid Juice" served to us by the medical community, our biggest surprises of 2022, and reveal some of our plans for 2023. We recommend you listen while wrapping gifts and sipping something that won't hurt if it squirts out of your nose as you laugh. Happy Holidays!

SHOW NOTES
Easy-to-read list of 34 most common peri-menopausal symptoms
Map of US Porn Fetishes
NY Times Article Featuring Dr. Rachel Rubin
Messages from the Menopausal Multiverse by Omisade Burney-Scott
Abortion Access Front
Equality Now

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04 Jan 2023Laughing and Peeing and Peeing and Laughing with Dr. Shoma Datta-Thomas01:01:17

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There are so many different issues that can affect us in midlife, and it can be frustrating to try and find medical professionals who can address more than one of these at a time. Modern Age is a New York City-based longevity clinic offering expert, proactive care for how you look and how you feel. Here to tell us more about what they offer is Dr. Shoma-Datta-Thomas, whose experience treating complex gynecological conditions has informed her philosophy around providing highly personalized care that combines cosmetic appearance with health optimization. We take a deep dive into many issues, including peeing when you laugh or cough, using Intravaginal Radio Frequency to help alleviate vaginal discomfort , and how, according to Julia, the layered complexities of midlife sex can resemble a stinky onion. We laugh a lot and therefore we pee a lot, so prepare to wet some pants as you listen to this one. Don't say we didn't warn you.

IMPORTANT LINKS
Modern Age
Dr. Shoma Datta-Thomas, MD FACOG
Aging Wellness Assessment
Modern Age Instagram
Modern Age Facebook
Modern Age Tik Tok

SHOW NOTES
Why Doctors Are Studying New Drugs to Treat Women’s Midlife Mood Swings

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18 Jan 2023Sticky Wickets with Heather Corinna01:18:23

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We like to think that if we had written a book, it would be Heather Corinna's What Fresh Hell is This?: Perimenopause, Menopause, Other Indignities, and You. Heather writes about "the pause" with all of the humor and realness you would expect from a title like that, but what makes the book so unique is its inclusivity. And if that word makes you think this episode is going to spew preachy wokeness all over you, think again. Heather schools us on things like "ableism" and "othering" without placing preciousness on any of it. In fact, we laugh more than we don't, and a cackle-filled interview is what we consider podcast gold. We also discuss Ellie's latest symptom of itchy skin, and Julia's misdiagnosis of Herpes Simplex 1. So grab your creams and salves and cozy up for a good time.

Handles and sites
Heather's website
Heather's insta
@heather.corinna
Heather's twitter
@heathercorinna
What Fresh Hell Is This?

References
Fresh Hell's Delirium Home Companion
The Madwoman in the Volvo by Sandra Tsing Loh

Friends
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01 Feb 2023I've Run Out of Cope with Emily Barclay01:02:13

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When Emily Barclay learned that the word "perimenopause" applied to her, she went online to seek out help and support and found that it simply didn’t exist. Instead of dissolving into a pool of her own hormonal tears and sweat, she set up Perimenopause Hub, bringing together experts across different disciplines from around the world and creating a community where women could feel less alone. As if that and her pink and turquoise hair weren't cool enough, she prides herself on having shunned the stereotypical forms of adulting and lives in the UK with her partner, five dogs, and 14 hives of bees. We talk about the importance of tracking your cycle and symptoms, the power of setting boundaries, and how a hug can help when you've run out of cope. They don't call her The Peri-godmother for nothing.

Handles and sites
Perimenopause Hub
Perimenopause Hub facebook group
Perimenopause Hub Insta
Perimenopause Hub twitter
Your Tracking Journal

Show Notes
Perry app
Intrarosa
Burnout by Emily and Amelia Nagaski

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15 Feb 2023Have You Ever Heard of Pill Goggles? with Ricki Lake and Abby Epstein01:09:18

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Ricki Lake (yes, THAT Ricki Lake) and Abby Epstein have worked together on some groundbreaking documentaries which you should watch immediately if you haven't yet done so. The Business of Being Born changed the way we looked at birthing options and medical interventions, and their most recent collaboration, The Business of Birth Control, examines the complex relationship between hormonal birth control and women’s health and liberation. Both women are brilliant and down-to-earth, and we loved talking to them about their films, their friendship, and their aging journey. We hope we didn't humiliate ourselves when we asked them to "lick each other's buttholes", which is our weird way of saying "give each other complements". We tried our best to maintain our composure in the presence of artistic geniuses, but you should listen to the episode and let us know how we did.

Handles and sites
The Business of Birth Control website
The Business of Birth Control Facebook
The Business of Birth Control Instagram
Body Literacy Summit
Ricki facebook - @rickilake
Abby facebook - @abbyepstein
Ricki Insta - @rickilake
Abby Insta - @abbyepsteinxoxo

Show Notes
Dr. Lara Briden
Menopause Bootcamp
Suzanne Gilberg-Lenz
Harklinikken

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01 Mar 2023We Finally Got You a Sleep Coach with Morgan Adams00:56:28

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March is Sleep Awareness Month. Who knew? Our new favorite sleep expert knew! Morgan Adams is a holistic sleep coach for women, whose clients refer to her as their "sleep soulmate". Poor sleep is one of the major complaints we hear from women in midlife, and Morgan offers us potential solutions that are easy to implement and won't cost you a dime. If you're like us, you have tried everything to get the kind of sleep you got in your youth, so it's well worth listening to Morgan talk about the difference between natural sleep and the kind you get when you take a sleeping pill, how what you eat and when you eat it can affect your sleep, and how that glass of wine that makes you feel tired is actually detrimental to your sleep quality. We also discuss our most recurring anxiety dreams, confusing a bottle of vitamins for a glass of water, and our brand new Tik Tok account. (Do not take an Ambien before listening to this episode.)

Handles and sites
Morgan Adams website
Morgan Adams facebook
Morgan Adams Insta
Morgan Adams LinkedIn
New! Follow us on Tik Tok

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Show Notes
Menopause is More Than Just a Punchline by Sue Carter
Sleep Hygiene Tips from the CDC
https://www.sleepfoundation.org/sleep-hygiene
Constructive Worry Exercise Worksheet
Quit Like a Woman by Holly Whitaker
Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker, PhD
4-7-8 Breathing Technique
Oura Ring Sleep Tracker
The four Tendencies by Gretchen Rubin

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Julia G Wellness


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15 Mar 2023Always Blooming with Margit Detweiler00:50:15

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Margit Detweiler is the epitome of cool. A survivor of ovarian cancer, she embraced her post-chemo white hair, styled it into a punk pixie, and sealed it with a bold lip. But her coolness goes far deeper than her outward style. Margit is the founder of TueNight, a platform dedicated to amplifying the stories of Gen-X women, and president of Gyrate Media, an award-winning content strategy and editorial development firm. This three-time Webby honoree gave us her honest opinion on the term "Grandfluencers", offered reccomendations for what music we should be listening to right now, and helped us debate the true meaning of "wet leg". Most importantly, she inspired us with a term she learned from Gina Pell: we will heretofore be known as Perennials, because we are always blooming.

Handles and sites
TueNight website
TueNight social and TueDo List
TueNight Insta
TueNight facebook
TueNight twitter
Margit Insta
Margit facebook
Gyrate Media


Show Notes
6 doctors swallowed Lego heads for science. Here's what came out
Deborah Darling
What Went Wrong with Iris Apfel?
The What
Better Things on FX
Somebody Somewhere on HBO
Yola
Wet Leg
Shonen Knife

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Julia G Wellness
https://circlingthedrainpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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12 Apr 2023Do What Makes Your Balls Sing with Sabina Vajraca and Flora Natalia Diaz01:19:17

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Sometimes we bring you medical experts or health and wellness specialists, and other times we interview women with fascinating backgrounds and unique experiences in hopes that you might relate, feel seen, and if something funny comes up, laugh. This is one of those episodes. Sabina Vajrača is a Bosnian-American director/writer/producer who immigrated to the U.S. as a war refugee, and her dear friend Flora Natalia Diaz is a Jewish-Uruguayan actor, and one of those moms whose pregnancy was so ridiculously referred to as "geriatric". We talk about the trauma that comes from being affected by war, the life-changing mental health benefits of therapy, meditation, and mindfulness, and how you can have a midlife crisis even if you've followed your dreams. You will be touched by friendship, inspired by resilience, and possibly ruined for life when you hear a hemorrhoid story for the ages. Seriously... we thought we'd heard it all until this one. We hope this episode makes your balls sing. (You'll learn what that means when you listen!)

Handles and sites
Sabina's website
Instagram for her new film Sevap/Mitzvah
Facebook for Sevap/Mitzvah

Flora's website
Flora's Insta
Flora's facebook

Show Notes
Perimenopause by Baroness von Sketch Show
The Lipstick Butthole Test
Back to Bosnia - Full Movie by Sabina Vajrača
The "Flotilla" inflatable pregnancy/sex pillow that Flora mentioned
Perifit Trainer - Kegel Exerciser with app
Natural Cycles Birth Control Tracking App

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Julia G Wellness
https://circlingthedrainpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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29 Mar 2023Now I Know My CBDs with Katelynn Nguyen00:54:42

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You've heard of CBD, but what about CBG? CBN? PHA? Katelynn Nguyen, founder of Willow Kay, is here to teach us about all of it. Willow Kay is a green and clean wellness and skincare company offering a variety of formulations to help improve sleep, care for problematic skin, and induce calm. Not only are Katelynn's products devoid of chemicals and endocrine disruptors, her packaging is entirely eco-conscious, having created the world’s first backyard compostable cosmetic jar that can break down into organic matter at any stage during its existence whether it’s on land or water. Katelynn started this business in part to help her niece Willow, who suffered from chronic atopic dermatitis as an infant and had sensitivities to traditional medications. If that sounds like the sweetest thing you've ever heard, you will love listening to Katelynn talk about her genuine passion for making good, earth-friendly products, even when it's hard. We also talk about other things, like Ellie's increased sense of smell, Hyaluronic Acid for your vagina, and yeast infection zombies. We always find a way to keep it weird.

Handles and sites
Willow Kay website
Willow Kay Insta
Willow Kay facebook
Willow Kay's Compassion Program - Discounted products for active and retired military, people living with chronic illness, persons with long-term disabilities, and low income qualifying individuals

Show Notes
Enter code CTD25 at checkout for a discount on all Willow Kay products!
Willow Kay Rescue Balm
Willow Kay 5:1 CBD+CBN+CBG Broad Spectrum Drops
Willow Kay CBG+CBD Balancing Serum
Tell Me About Vaginal Hyaluronic Acid by Dr. Jen Gunter
Study on CBG and MRSA
Boox reusable packaging

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26 Apr 2023Aging is Not an Inevitable Decline with Dr. Vonda Wright01:02:12

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When we saw Dr. Vonda Wright's medical specialty - orthopedic sports medicine surgeon specializing in shoulder, hip and knee arthroscopy for athletes and active people of all ages - we knew that she would have a lot to contribute to our ongoing conversation about the effects of perimenopause on all of our different body parts. However, we had no idea that we would be having a chat with one of the most upbeat, inspiring women we have ever had the pleasure of interviewing, and that we would gain new perspectives and attitudes about what it means to age well. It's no surprise that Dr. Vonda is therefore a public speaker in high demand, as well as the author of 5 books with titles like Guide to THRIVE: 4 Steps to Body, Brains and Bliss and Fitness After 40: How to Stay Strong at Any Age. She is a powerhouse of energy with great tips on optimizing many important aspects of your life, and she isn't afraid to use curse words! Listen and learn why aging is NOT an inevitable decline from vitality to frailty, and let us know if you identify with Ellie's definition of "keeping track fatigue" and "incompetence fatigue" or Julia's rapidly darkening moustache. Or all of the above!

Topics and Timestamps
15:15 Dr. Vonda addresses how hormonal shifts can affect things like a torn ACL
22:13 Dr. Vonda defines "aging well"
25:00 Dr. Vonda discusses making a strategic plan for your health
36:48 Dr. Vonda explains the concept of "precision medicine"

Websites and Social Media Handles
Dr. Vonda Wright's website
Dr. Vonda's Books
Dr. Vonda's Insta
Dr. Vonda's Facebook
NovaMD supplements by Dr. Vonda

Other Resources Mentioned
Let's Talk Menopause's Menoposium
Say She She - Julia's music recco
Nicolle Galyon - boy crazy video - Dr. Vonda's song recco

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10 May 2023We Finally Got You a SEX Therapist with Dr. Elisabeth Gordon01:07:14

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Our loyal listeners know that Ellie has been fretting about her low libido ever since the first episode of this show. She continues to search for answers because she knows she's not alone, and that many of YOU are also grappling with this issue for various reasons. Well... we finally got you a SEX therapist! This episode features Dr. Elisabeth Gordon, an Integrative Sexual Health Psychiatrist​ and Sex Therapist who talks to us about the different kinds of desire, how to tackle low libido that is a side effect of prescription medication, strategies for getting out of our busy brains so we can get busy with our bodies, and so much more. Want to learn about clitoral pumps? Sensate focus? What kind of lube is the safest for your delicate V? This is the episode for you.

Topics and timestamps
10:58 - The difference between spontaneous desire and responsive desire
17:47 - Strategies for overcoming low libido that is a side effect of medication
29:43 - What is a clitoral pump?
35:02 - What you can do to get out of your head and into your body
43:07 - How to communicate with a partner about symptoms that affect sex
51:00 - Everything you need to know about lube

Handles and sites
Dr. Gordon's Website
Dr. Gordon's Insta
Dr. Gordon's Twitter

List of Resources Mentioned
Is Cannabis Good or Bad for Sleep?
EROS Device - The FDA-approved clitoral pump
Dr. Gordon's Instagram post about lube - check the comments, too!
NAMS (North American Menopause Society)
ISSWSH (International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health)
SSTAR (Society for Sex Therapists and Researchers)
AASECT (American Association of Sexuality Educators, Counselors and Therapists)

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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07 Jun 2023I Choose Me with Dr. Stacia Alexander00:58:57

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When we met Dr. Stacia Alexander at a menopause symposium, we were instantly drawn to her energy, magnetism, and hot-pink-suit-wearing confidence. A seasoned psychotherapist, she has worked with professional women helping them understand that the journey to success does not make them immune to emotional and cognitive changes. Her most recent work focuses on the importance of accessing mental health care early, and she has even written a book that we wish we had read almost 30 (!!!) years ago: 10 + Things I Wish I Knew About Mental Health in College. We loved talking to Dr. Alexander about her use of testosterone as part of her menopause hormone therapy, her decision to become "sugar sober", and when it's time to press the Emergency Stop Button and take stock of your life. Get ready for lots of inspirational phrases that won't make you roll your eyes, but WILL make you want to get up and go dancing. What's the opposite of an energy vampire? Dr. Stacia Alexander, that's what.

Topics and timestamps
12:08 - Responsible use of testosterone as part of a hormone therapy regimen
20:06 - The benefits of becoming "sugar sober"
30:20 - The Emotionality of Success
33:25 - Pushing the "emergency stop button" and assessing what your really want for your life
40:13 - Tips for access to mental health care
46:25 - The importance of goal-setting

Handles and sites
Dr. Alexander's website
Dr. Alexander's Insta
Dr. Alexander's facebook
Dr. Alexander's book 10+ Things I Wish I Knew About Mental Health in College

List of Resources Mentioned
Why Annual Pap Smears Are History – But Routine Ob-Gyn Visits Are Not
First testosterone patch for menopausal women to begin clinical trials this year

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24 May 2023They're Coming for Our Vibrators with Lizz Winstead01:01:12

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It's our 50th episode and we are celebrating in style! Lizz Winstead is a name that we have had on our "dream guest" list since we first brainstormed this podcast, and wonder of wonders, our dream came true. Co-creator of The Daily Show and co-founder of Air America Radio, Lizz is a legendary comedian and writer who is a badass in every sense of the word. She is currently devoting her energy to activism, having founded Abortion Access Front, co-hosting their podcast Feminist Buzzkills, and spearheading Operation Save Abortion, an ongoing campaign beginning with a daylong virtual training session for thousands of new abortion rights activists nationwide. Lizz energized us, lit a fire under our asses, laughed with us about Ron DeSantis's weird white boots, and told us a great story about Ted Cruz and dildos. As if that weren't enough, we got to hear from some of YOU who left us lovely voicemails in honor of our 50th. Have a listen and see if your voice is featured, and if you want to get us a present, share this episode with your friends. You'll be doing our podcast AND women's rights a huge service.

Topics and Timestamps
16:04 How abortion care affects medical providers in hostile communuties
21:05 All about how YOU can help via "Operation Save Abortion"
26:43 Why abortion care is healthcare and how its opposition relates to false morality
32:16 A story about Ted Cruz and vibrators
40:44 Combatting racism in reproductive access care
44:30 Lizz's advice for aging women in comedy and entertainment

Handles and Sites and Resources
Abortion Access Front
Operation Save Abortion
Feminist Buzzkills Podcast
Lizz's Insta
Abortion Access Front Insta

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21 Jun 2023Where is the Menopause Section? with Jamie Phillips00:56:40

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Jamie Phillips is a mensch. A seasoned nonprofit professional, she is grateful to have had the opportunity to provide services to uplift immigrants, refugees, isolated older adults, returning citizens, people who are unhoused, those experiencing mental health challenges, and those recovering from addiction. She was diagnosed with early stage breast cancer five months into the pandemic, and has since become passionate about amplifying the experiences of queer and gender expansive folks who experience breast/chest cancer and sudden menopause. We had such a good conversation with her, covering everything from the lack of ritual around the menopause transition, to the sometimes bizarre rituals when a child gets their first menstrual period, to what menopause care might look like by the time Gen Z is going through it, to the lack of a menopause section in the sex shop to - perhaps most importantly - the lack of inclusivity in menopause conversations, care, and even marketing. We also cover an unfortunate event involving a zipper and Ellie's belly, and we learn about how both hosts' moms responded when they got their first periods. Good times.

Topics and timestamps
8:48 - New FDA-approved drug for the treatment of hot flashes
13:44 - Going through sudden menopause as a result of estrogen-psitive cancer treatment
24:40 - What steps should be taken to include queer and gender-expansive folx in menopause care?
31:38 - Menopause in the workplace
38:22 - Finding cancer support as a member of the queer community

List of Resources Mentioned
FDA Approves Veozah
Veozah brand website
What Fresh Hell is This? by Heather Corinna

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05 Jul 2023Tap That with Sarah Louise Lilley00:59:12

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Have you ever heard of EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) also known as "Tapping"? Sarah Louise Lilley became an EFT Practitioner after her husband's stroke, and she is here to tell us more about that life-changing day, to explain EFT, and dispel any misconceptions you might have about it. If you're looking for a simple tool that can help reframe negative mindsets, help you calm yourself in a moment of distress, and help you cope with frustration over your newfound peri-menopausal symptoms, this episode is for you. We also touch on the unusual theatrical experience where Sarah and Ellie met, Sarah and Julia's love of horses, and a beloved British condiment that you may not have heard of, but which would make a great name for a stallion.

Topics and timestamps
11:36 - Sarah tells the story of the life-altering day when her husband had a stroke on Christmas
19:55 - What exactly IS EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique) or "Tapping"?
25:00 - How EFT can help release mental blocks
31:51 - How to combat frustration using EFT
43:32 - EFT is not a "woowoo" trend and here's why

Handles and sites
Sarah's website
Sarah's Insta

List of Resources Mentioned
The Other 50% Podcast
EFT (Emotional Freedom Technique)
Dawson Church
Dr. Peta Stapleton
Forbes article on EFT

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Julia G Wellness

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19 Jul 2023Single People Deserve Good Knives with Shani Silver01:04:25

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Singlehood is not a broken state that requires fixing. This is the core message of our guest, Shani Silver, who deleted her dating apps in 2019 and has been infinitely happier ever since. Shani reminds us that dating apps are a for-profit industry that stand to benefit from keeping you single rather than helping you find love, and they often deplete your self worth and mental health. Author of the fantastic book A Single Revolution: Don't Look for a Match. Light One. and host of A Single Serving Podcast, Shani firmly believes that you can enjoy your life as a single human while still hoping for a partnership. But this episode is not just for the singles out there! Shani helps people in couples reframe how they view their single friends and family members, and as a result of reading her book, we have personally stopped asking questions like "How's dating life?" or "Can I please fix you up with someone?" Shani offers zero apologies for living her life exactly as she wants to, and we offer zero apologies for Ellie's graphic colonoscopy story and Julia's description of her nuclear meltdown. Love us as we are or don't love us at all, but do listen to the episode and share it with your people.

Topics and timestamps
15:05 - Shani tells us the wildest thing a doctor ever said to her
15:05 - Shani tells us the wildest thing a doctor ever said to her.
17:49 - Dating apps are a for-profit industry. Here's why you should delete them.
22:30 - How to maintain your self-worth and dignity in a society that shames singles.
28:44 - How to reframe your mindset about the hell-scape that is dating.
34:00 - Dispelling the notion that your life isn't real until you have a partner.
47:45 - A person can embrace their single-hood while hoping for a partner.

Handles and sites
Shani's website
Shani's show: A Single Serving Podcast
Buy Shani's book: A Single Revolution: Don't look for a match. Light one.
Shani's Insta
Shani's TikTok

List of Resources Mentioned
Tubal Ligation No Better Than IUD at Preventing Pregnancy
The Mob Should Run Planned Parenthood
Why Many Single Women Without Children Are So Happy
The Other 50% Podcast

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02 Aug 2023My Hot Flashes Could Power Brooklyn with Dr. Aiesha Turman01:04:13

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Dr. Aiesha Turman does so many things and she does them with JOY. She is the kind of teacher that students keep in touch with for the rest of their lives, which is a rare and special thing. We totally get the appeal, because we had the best time talking to her about Reiki, Afrofuturism, literature, her work on the incredible award-winning documentary Crip Camp, and the differences AND similarities between the hormonal transitions of her mother, her daughter, and herself. You'll also get to hear about Ellie graduating from her therapist, the time Julia sharted the bed, and how strangers need to mind their own business and not offer random opinions to people they know nothing about. So much good stuff, PLUS a discount code for listeners who want to try Reiki with Dr. Turman. (You want to try it. Trust us.)

Topics and timestamps
16:35 - What is Reiki and how can it help?
23:00 - How Dr. Turman hazed her mom during HER menopause
28:20 - The importance of intergenerational conversation about menopause
36:19 - What is Afrofuturism? Dr. Turman explains.
44:35 - Discussing with puberty with her mother and her daughter
52:44 - Dr. Turman's work on the documentary Crip Camp

Handles and sites
Dr. Turman's Website
For 15% off Reiki with Dr. Turman, enter code CIRCLING at checkout
Electric Relaxation Substack
Dr. Turman's Insta
Dr. Turman's facebook

List of Resources Mentioned
Parable of the Sower by Octavia E. Butler
My Awesome Black Queer Mom by Aiesha Turman
Crip Camp
The Crip Camp Educational Curriculum
The Other 50% Podcast
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Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness
We were ranked in the "60 Best Menopause Podcasts"!

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16 Aug 2023A Bubble Bath for Your Brain with Dr. Wendy Suzuki01:00:47

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Dr. Wendy Suzuki is a professor of Neural Science and Psychology and author of two incredible books, Good Anxiety and Healthy Brain, Happy Life. Her TED talk, The Brain-Changing Benefits of Exercise, has more than 60 million views, making it the 2nd most viewed TED talk of 2018. In spite of our awe, we managed to pick her fancy brain about many things, like how hormonal changes can lead to increased anxiety, tips for building resilience and staying motivated to exercise, and what to do about "choking" (AKA brain farts or derping). She told us all about her concept of "micro flow", causing us to envision a tiny Flo from the Progressive commercials sitting on our shoulders. This is why she is the Dean of the College of Arts and Science at NYU and we are not! We also talk about Ellie going braless for the summer and Julia rubbing emu oil on her skin. If you think the latter is problematic, remember Julia's words: "The emu is already dead at this point."

Topics and timestamps
14:00 - The transformative effects that exercise has on the brain
21:56 - How hormonal changes can lead to increased anxiety
27:46 - Building resilience
34:26 - Tips for staying motivated to exercise
40:10 - What to do about "choking" AKA brain farts
49:09 - Flow vs. Microflow

Handles and sites
Dr. Suzuki's Website
Good Anxiety by Dr. Suzuki
Healthy Brain, Happy Life by Dr. Suzuki
Dr. Suzuki's Insta
Dr. Suzuki's facebook

List of Resources Mentioned
Three Vaccines for Fall: What You Need to Know
Dr. Suzuki's TED Talk: The brain-changing benefits of exercise
Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi's TED Talk: Flow, the secret to happiness
The Other 50% Podcast
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Other Links
Julia G Wellness - book a free Zoom with Julia today!
https://circlingthedrainpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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30 Aug 2023We Finally Got You a Pro Dom with Leoh Blooms01:00:35

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Leoh Blooms is a queer, fluid, and nonbinary-trans trauma-informed mentor and Pro Dom. Everything they do in their practice focuses on intimacy, mental health, gender, sex, and practical self-care. They help clients aged 21 and up to create lives they don't need to hide from by offering various levels of support in a power dynamic format, using kink for fun and as a healing modality. Listen to Leoh talk about coming out at the age of 45, jumping through medical hoops when a gender fluid person needs medical care, and explain what a Pro Dom actually IS and DOES. In response, Ellie talks about working in an office located upstairs from an old-school dominatrix, and Julia explores the idea of using a rope-tying technique for self-soothing. This was not our usual rodeo, and we liked it. We think you will, too.

Topics and timestamps
11:30 - Instant menopause after a radical hysterectomy
13:57 - Justifying the medical need for Testosterone as a non-transitioning person
19:25 - Coming out at the age of 45 to a family that includes a husband and five children
27:47 - What it means to work as a Pro-Dom
40:27 - Steps the medical community should take to help gender fluid people
43:33 - Celebrating a non-monogamous marriage commitment

Handles and sites
Leoh's website
Leoh's Insta

List of Resources Mentioned
FDA Approves First Nonprescription Daily Oral Contraceptive - Opill
Adenomyosis
Discovering Gender Fluidity: A Late Bloomer’s Journey to Self-Acceptance
Chrononormativity by Leoh Blooms

Other Links
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Schedule a FREE Zoom with Julia at Julia G Wellness

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13 Sep 2023Vagina Science with Rachel E. Gross01:05:06

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Rachel E. Gross is an award-winning science journalist who wrote an incredible book called Vagina Obscura which was a finalist for the 2023 Andrew Carnegie Medal for Excellence in Nonfiction. Go ahead and be impressed, but do not be intimidated. Rachel will enthrall you with stories of outlandish treatments for ailments that plague people with female reproductive systems, including a personal tale involving rat poison and her own vagina. She takes us back through history to when the fallopian tubes were named after an Italian Catholic priest and when Freud decided that all "women's issues" were psychological. She discusses how medical terminology can be harmful, placing blame on the woman or the body part itself. If that's not enough to draw you in, listen as we realize that both Ellie and Julia know a ton about bacterial vaginosis, and in a delightful epiphany, Ellie gives the perfect name to the wall of vagina-inspired art in Rachel's home. Bonus points if you count the number of times "vagina" is said in this episode.

Topics and timestamps
10:40 - How Rachel got into writing about science, specifically the science of vaginas
18:02 - The Vagina Poison Story
24:37 - The microbiome of the vagina
30:57 - How medical language puts the blame on the body part (#incompetentcervix)
38:50 - Ancient ideas that have been carried through to modern medicine
43:46 - Thoughts on implanting bits of ovarian tissue to stave off menopause

Handles and sites
Rachel's website
Rachel's writing
Rachel's Insta
Buy Vagina Obscura

List of Resources Mentioned
Pooping only every 3 or more days linked with cognitive decline, research finds
Rachel telling her vagina rat poison story on Story Collider
Doing Harm by Maya Dusenbery

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness
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27 Sep 2023Women's Health Needs a Revolution with Dr. Maria Uloko01:03:41

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Dr. Maria Uloko is fired up, and we are right there with her. As the first ever Black female Urology student at her university, she has been trailblazing for the entirety of her career. Dr. Uloko specializes in comprehensive sexual health which includes the medical and surgical management of ALL genders. She is considered a world leader in chronic pelvic pain and vulvar conditions, she believes in empowering her patients to take ownership of their sexual health by providing a shame-free space to ask questions and share their stories, and she seeks to close gaps in disparities of care and implement systems that promote diversity and inclusivity. She is also an international award winning researcher with a focus in vulvar health, most notably her research in defining how many nerves are in the human clitoris. (Can you believe that this number was not known until recently, when she and her colleagues embarked on a study?) She told us that the anatomy of the vulva is not taught in medical school, even to gynecologists, and that this lack of knowledge and adequate care is equivalent to malpractice against those with female anatomy. She wants to start a revolution to correct all of this nonsense, and we have pledged to be her soldiers. We will march to the beat of Beyonce, and we will eat a cake in the shape of Queen Bey while we do so.

Topics and timestamps
13:25 - Becoming a female urologist after being told she couldn't do it
18:35 - Providing gender-affirming care to people with every type of genitalia
20:58 - Taking charge of your own sexual health
26:17 - Pain is not acceptable. Women do not have to live with pain.
36:45 - Libido and orgasm: the two most complex portions of the sexual response cycle
42:54 - Discovering the number of nerves in the clitoris

Handles and sites
Dr. Uloko's Website
Dr. Uloko's Insta
Meet the Trailblazing Urologists on a Mission to Help Women Have Better Sex


List of Resources Mentioned
Is Menopause Changing My Hair?
Prevalence of female pattern hair loss in postmenopausal women: a cross-sectional study
How many nerve fibers innervate the human glans clitoris: a histomorphometric evaluation of the dorsal nerve of the clitoris

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness
https://circlingthedrainpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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11 Oct 2023ADHD? Could it Be? with Dr. Kimberly Mangla00:59:59

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Dr. Kimberly Mangla is a reproductive psychiatrist who works collaboratively with the obstetrics department at Mt. Sinai Hospital in NYC. She is involved in the teaching and supervision of psychotherapy and medication management during pregnancy, postpartum, and menopause. She also happens treat Julia's Adult ADHD, and in honor of ADHD Awareness Month, we asked her ALL of the questions. What is ADHD, and why do many women not discover this diagnosis until adulthood? How can someone have ADHD and be high-functioning and laser-focused all at once? What is the intersection between ADHD and perimenopause? When is it time to take medication to help treat it? Does Ellie have ADHD or is she merely addicted to the apps on her phone? We also talk about crunchy knees, forgetting to shower and brush teeth, and pharmacies that carry an expensive array of vibrators.

Topics and timestamps
14:00 Combining an OB/GYN education with psychiatry
17:25 Explaining the need for and lack of reproductive endocrinologists
20:40 Defining ADHD and what it looks like in children vs. adults
25:35 How can you have ADHD and be laser-focused at the same time?
32:04 What is "executive function"?
41:00 When to explore pharmaceutical intervention for ADHD
43:49 How perimenopause intersects with adult ADHD

Handles and sites
Dr. Mangla's Practice
Dr. Mangla's Insta
Dr. Mangla's Handbag Insta

List of Resources Mentioned
Knee Noise: Crepitus and Popping Explained
Adult ADHD

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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25 Oct 2023Going Commando with Blaire Postman00:41:13

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Blaire Postman is a comedian who was diagnosed with ADHD as an adult and then embraced it as a super-power. She created a solo show called Lady ADHD: Hilariously Mind Blowing Observations from a Hyper-Insightful Brain. Due to a current medication shortage, we got to interview Blaire ten days into "going commando", and we talked about emotional dysregulation, song-stimming, and how a performance piece about a topic like ADHD can make audiences feel seen and not alone. We can relate to that for sure. We hope that you will relate to Ellie cursing at her son in a fit of perimenopausal aggression, and Julia's incredulousness at the fact that they only just invented a crash test dummy that mimics the female form.

Topics and timestamps
12:50 Being diagnosed with ADHD as a 30-year-old female
16:30 The ADHD medicine shortage
18:23 Emotional dysregulation related to Adult ADHD
22:35 A job interview and mismatched shoes
29:00 Audience members' reactions to Lady ADHD

Handles and sites
Blaire's website
Blaire's Insta
Blaire's YouTube

List of Resources Mentioned
This is the first crash test dummy modelled on the female body. Will it make cars safer for women?
Adult ADHD
Clip of Blaire and a guest "song-stimming"

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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08 Nov 2023Sad Vagina with Abigail Paul01:07:56

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Germany-based comedian Abigail Paul says that co-host Ellie is her oldest friend. Not her most elderly friend, but the friend she has known the longest. She met co-host Julia a few years later, making all three of them VERY ELDERLY/OLD FRIENDS. That should entice you to listen to this episode, because richness of history makes for juicy conversation. Abigail moved to Germany as a young adult because she was "on the lam", trying to escape her abusive and narcissist mother, whose life and death inspired Abigail's award-winning solo show Involuntary Momslaughter. There are many wonderful stories in this episode, including the one about Abigail ignoring her fibroid tumors until she collapsed in a pharmacy and ended up in emergency surgery, the one where her gynecologist proclaimed her vagina her weakest organ, and the one where 18-year-old Abigail and Ellie sat together to take a pregnancy test after a condom broke. Also, all three people in this episode had birthdays in the last week, so listen and laugh and feel seen and celebrate with us!

Topics and timestamps
11:45 The story of 18-year-old Abigail and Ellie and a pregnancy test
13:30 The story of Abigail's gynecological adventures in Germany
22:20 The story of Dr. Dr. Mueller
31:05 The story of how health insurance is better in Europe
36:00 The story of Abigail's horrible relationship with her mother
39:30 The story of how a mother with Narcissistic Personality Disorder is great fodder for a solo show

Handles and sites
Abigail's website
Abigail's Insta
Abigail's facebook

List of Resources Mentioned
Rosacea and Menopause
Exposed Podcast
Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD)
Dr. Ramani Durvasula

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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22 Nov 2023The Larry David of Pilates with Meghann Koppele Duffy01:10:57

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Meghann Koppele Duffy is a cofounder of the Neuro Studio, a premier education and movement company helping people living with neurological conditions move better, and teaching movement professionals the best cutting edge techniques to work with people living with Neurological Conditions. Meghann is a fast-talking, zero BS practitioner who has been called the Larry David of Pilates because she is skilled at "observing weird things". She claims to not be everyone's cup of tea, but who is? It's clear to us that Meghann is passionate about her work and is making an epic difference in the lives of people who want access to movement and freedom from pain. We talk about changes in proprioception throughout our life cycle, adapting to movement as we age, and using humor and honesty in work that can be emotionally difficult. We also teach you what a "cloner" is. Bonus points if you email us your best guess BEFORE listening to the episode!

Topics and timestamps
15:40 Meghann's origin story and how she co-founded The Neuro Studio
23:40 Using humor and honesty to diffuse heaviness with clients
30:20 How women's bodies change proprioceptively throughout their life cycle
39:40 How to keep it together when physical work gets emotional
45:35 Meghann's Idea of the Zone of Genius
49:33 Adapting to movement as we age

Handles and sites
The Neuro Studio Website
The Nuero Studio Insta
Meghann's Insta
Sessions or movement classes with Meghann

List of Resources Mentioned
What is MS (Multiple Sclerosis)?

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06 Dec 2023ENCORE: Like Daughter, Like Mother with Michelle MacDonald and Joan MacDonald00:58:46

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For our first encore episode, we chose the inspiring pair of Michelle and Joan MacDonald. Not only are they glorious examples of what a healthy body can achieve after midlife, they seem to have an enviable mother-daughter bond that is beautiful to witness. These women broke the internet after Michelle, a body builder and transformation coach, guided her then 70-year-old mother through a process that resulted in life-changing weight loss and the subsequent elimination of a slew of health problems. Joan's before and after photos can be found at Train with Joan, and you should take a peek before listening to understand the full impact of what these women achieved together. This was our only chat with a mother-daughter duo, and we couldn't have found more mind-blowing specimens.

Michelle MacDonald - Your Healthy Hedonista
Michelle's Insta
Michelle's Facebook
Michelle's e-Book The Best of the Basics
Joan MacDonald - Train with Joan
Joan's Insta
Joan's Facebook
The Wonder Women
My Macros
Science, Bitch!

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20 Dec 2023ENCORE: Twice a Week Until Death Do You Part with Dr. Rachel Rubin01:04:36

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We chose this episode with Dr. Rachel Rubin as our final encore of the year because she is the person who has given us the most practical, valuable, and easily shareable information to help women with their genitourinary functions as they age. Dr. Rubin is a board-certified urologist and sexual medicine specialist who dropped so much knowledge and helpful information into one conversation that our puny little brain-sponges got super-soaked. Listen to learn about the two little-known FDA-approved drugs that actually help women's libidos with no negative side effects, why you should be using local vaginal estrogen twice a week for the rest of your life, and how even a doctor can agree with us that the field of medicine is a disgusting dumpster fire of brokenness. As if that weren't enough, we also talk about the Grow Your Clit Movement, Covid Hemorrhoids, and what the hosts never thought they'd do in their 20's that they have done now. Admit it: you're intrigued.

DR. RUBIN'S LINKS
Dr. Rubin's Website
Dr. Rubin's twitter
Dr. Rubin's facebook
Dr. Rubin's Insta
Dr. Rubin's LinkedIn

ARTICLES AND RESOURCES MENTIONED IN THE EPISODE
The Magic of Hormones
International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health - ISSWSH
Addyi
Vyleesi
The Grow Your Clit Movement

LINKS TO DREAMY PRODUCTS AND SERVICES
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Purely Elizabeth Affiliate Link
Julia's Wellness Coaching Website

Circling the Drain Podcast Website

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07 Feb 2024Life's Tough. Laugh More. with Kambri Crews01:01:59

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How does a child of deaf adults who grew up in a tin shed with no running water or electricity witness her father commit a violent crime and then grow up to be the joyful owner of a comedy venue? Kambri Crews will tell you how! Author of the acclaimed New York Times best selling book Burn Down the Ground and sole owner and operator of Q.E.D. which was voted #1 comedy club in NYC by Time Out NY, Kambri is a damn delight. Her message, "Life's Tough. Laugh More." is evident as she chuckles about light things such as restaurant staff seeing her use sign language and then ignorantly handing her a menu in Braille, and heavy things such as her father attempting murder not once but twice. As Julia says, "If at first you don't succeed...". We also discuss gross habits like picking at your skin and chewing the inside of your own mouth, having to read the instructions for how to boil rice at least fifteen times, and how ice skating in midlife can result in the ass of your dreams. Thanks to all our listeners for your generous donations - we're thrilled to be back and we can't wait to tell you what's next.

Topics and timestamps
12:29 - Menopause and then breast cancer
14:35 - Kambri's autobiographical book, Burn Down the Ground, in which a child of impoverished deaf parents witnesses her father trying to kill her mother
23:48 - Processing trauma without traditional therapy
26:00 - How to laugh yourself back from rock bottom
30:20 - How an imaginitive child grows up to run her own events space
36:15 - Ice skating in midlife to optimize joy (and a tight butt)


Handles and sites
Q.E.D. Astoria
Buy books through Q.E.D. instead of other places
Kambri's website
Kambri's Insta
QED Insta
QED Facebook
Kambri facebook

List of Resources Mentioned
Cheek biting: Causes, Consequences, and Treatment
Something Was Wrong podcast
Flaco the Owl’s Year of Freedom From the Central Park Zoo

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness

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21 Feb 2024Age Out Loud with Katie Fogarty00:44:18

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Katie Fogarty will make you feel like turning 50 is the best thing that could ever happen to you. She is the host of A Certain Age, an age-positive podcast that helps you live your best evolving midlife—loud and proud. She is also the creator of the Age Out Loud movement, a platform which aims to spotlight as many stories of midlife awesomeness as possible. On top of all that, she is the founder and CEO of The Reboot Group, helping professionals build great careers, which includes encouraging reinvention in midlife. We talked about the stupidity of lying about your age, the importance of finding doctors who get it, and Julia's definition of "trash panda rage". We also talk about how Ellie may not be able to hit the high notes anymore, but she can still do the high jumps in ballet class. If you need a boost of inspiration, look no further than this episode.

Topics and timestamps
9:40 - Not realizing you are in perimenopause until you are on the other side
13:00 - Launching A Certain Age podcast right before turning 51
21:10 - The art of career reinvention
26:11 Working as a board member of Let's Talk Menopause
29:45 - Children's awareness of menopause
33:35 - The Age Out Loud movement

Handles and sites
A Certain Age Podcast
A Certain Age Insta
A Certain Age facebook
Age Out Loud Insta
The Reboot Group

List of Resources Mentioned
School Spirits
Why Ballet Might be the Best Exercise for Midlife
Let's Talk Menopause
Support the Menopause Research and Equity Act of 2023
Dr. Helen Fisher

Other Links
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Julia G Wellness

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06 Mar 2024The Ambassador of Fun with Robin Gelfenbien01:00:27

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Lately, as we have gotten older and our preferences have changed, we have been wondering, "What is fun?" Robin Gelfenbien, the self-proclaimed Ambassador of Fun, is the perfect person to answer that question. Right out of college, Robin was chosen out of thousands of people to drive the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile, and her experience provided excellent fodder for her acclaimed solo show "My Salvation Has a First Name: A Wienermobile Journey”. She has had several other fun jobs from creator and producer of the storytelling series and podcast "Yum's the Word" to co-hosting the podcast "Hello Menopause" to producing Isaac Mizrahi's podcast "Hello Isaac". Robin inspires us with her stories of involving strangers in all kinds of fun, but we also talk about things like thinning hair and anxiety, two very common and un-fun symptoms of perimenopause. If you are like us and are re-defining your definition of fun (there is nothing wrong with skipping that party!), this episode is for you.

Topics and timestamps
12:35 - Thinning hair is not fun
23:18 - Anxiety is also not fun
31:12 - Driving the Oscar Meyer Wienermobile is the most fun
40:44 - Hosting and producing podcasts is also fun
42:52 - In midlife, what is the definition of fun?


Handles and sites
Robin's website
Robin's Insta
Yum's the Word Youtube
Yum's the Word Podcast
Robin's Facebook
Robin's Tik Tok

List of Resources Mentioned
Midlife Doesn't Have to Be a Crisis by Jancee Dunn
Robin telling her airplane story on YouTube
No, YOU Tell It! "Fly By" featuring Ellie as host and Robin as a writer/storyteller
An Old Medicine Grows New Hair for Pennies a Day, Doctors Say
Oscar Meyer Wienermobile and Hot Dogger Community
Hello Menopause Podcast
Hello Isaac Podcast

Other Links
Erin's Faces Affiliate Link
Julia G Wellness
https://circlingthedrainpodcast.buzzsprout.com/

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20 Mar 2024Life in the Pause with Monique Cupid and Dixie Lincoln-Nichols01:05:14

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Monique Cupid and Dixie Lincoln-Nichols are menopausal women who met up during the pandemic to talk about work for a project. Without fail, at every weekly meeting, the conversation drifted to menopause, the symptoms each of them was experiencing, and the frustrations they felt about the lack of support, resources, equity, and community. Together, they formed Life in the Pause, with the mission of transforming the menopause journey into an empowered and celebrated experience through accessible education, resources, and community support. We talk about everything from toxicants in beauty products to doctors leaving 30-something women in the dark to the importance of dance breaks. You know how it is when we get together with two brilliant and fascinating humans... nothing is off limits. We won't apologize for talking about our farts and our pubes. We simply won't.

Topics and timestamps
10:50 - How Life in the Pause was born
16:45 - What is a Self-Care Sabbatical?
21:48 - Increasing 30-somethings' awareness of perimenopause
28:15 - The importance of clean ingredients in beauty products
40:40 - Menopause. Needs. More. Attention.

Handles and sites
Life in the Pause   
Life in the Pause Insta
Brown Skin Green Beauty Insta   
Dixie Lincoln-Nichols  
Dixie Lincoln Nichols Insta
The Pause Pod
The Midlife Glowchaser
Dance Break Song: Ready Fi Di Road

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Other Podcasts on the Topic of Peri/Menopause
The Pause Pod
Hello Menopause
A Certain Age Pod
Black Girl's Guide to Surviving Menopause

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04 Jun 2024Bad Fish and Good Farts (pilot episode of our brand new podcast, Open Up and Say HA!)00:30:13

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It's the very first episode of our brand new podcast, Open Up and Say HA!: Stories from Underneath the Paper Gown.

Have you ever had a bizarre encounter with a medical practitioner? An ER visit gone awry? A weird thing you found on your foot that turned out to be a rare species of parasitic insect? Welcome to Open Up and Say Ha! - Stories from Underneath the Paper Gown. Medical mishaps, misunderstandings, weird bodily functions... our guests are sharing it all. So get ready to laugh so hard you snort your coffee out of your nose, and if you happen to singe your nostrils, head to the doctor and tell us what went down. If laughter is your medicine, open up and say HA!

In this episode, co-hosts Ellie and Julia decide to save the guests' experiences for future episodes and instead, share their own bizarre medical encounters with each other. Even though they have been friends for 30 years, they each manage to tell a story that the other has never heard! If you've ever had inexplicable back pain or eaten mysteriously spicy tuna, this one is for you.

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23 Jun 2021EP 0: I Want to Want to F*ck00:27:59

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Ellie and Julia figure out how to record on the Riverside platform and realize that echo cancellation is NOT a default setting (WTF Riverside?).  More importantly, they tell you who they are, how they met, and what the hell this podcast is all about.  In the process, they talk about a near death experience in the state of Floriduh, the origin of the phrase, "circling the drain", and have a real-life brain fog moment right before your very ears.

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14 Jul 2021Your Uterus is a Queen with Meridith Maskara00:58:15

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Hosts, Ellie and Julia chat about what is giving them life this week as well as what is sucking the life OUT of them, but the juiciest bits are in their interview with Meridith Maskara, CEO of the Girl Scouts of Greater New York and mother of FIVE GIRLS. Listen closely for a potentially historically inaccurate explanation of the nosegay that should make you laugh, regardless of its basis in truth.

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https://www.girlscoutsnyc.org/

https://www.instagram.com/meridithmaskara/?hl=en

https://www.facebook.com/CEOMeridithMaskara/

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/26/parenting/menopause-perimenopause-puberty.html

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28 Jul 2021It Rubs the Lotion on Its Meatsack with Jen Kwok and Christina Ficicchia01:17:12

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It's the first ever panel episode! Hosts Ellie and Julia welcome musician/comedian/actor/mom Jen Kwok, and clean-energy advocate and mother of four Christina Ficicchia, to discuss everything from predictable periods to Asian skincare secrets. The group manages to cover normalizing miscarriage, terms that are reminiscent of testicles, and more. It's an emotional roller coaster of "random", but you won't want to miss this ride. 

**Small correction - Julia is on 50mg of Progesterone.  She has brain fog and got this wrong  when speaking about it in the episode.

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Jen Kwok: https://www.jenkwok.com/

Unsquishing Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/welcome-to-unsquishing/id1567206743?i=1000522181213

Christina Ficicchia: https://www.avangrid.com/wps/portal/avangrid/home

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11 Aug 2021Ob...ob...OBSTETRICS! with Dr. Joan Kent00:50:49

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Is there a doctor in the house? Well, there is definitely one ON THE POD! Dr. Joan Kent, a NAMS-certified gynecologist, shares her approach towards treating patients in their perimenopausal years. Spoiler alert: she actually listens to them. On this week's very informative episode, Ellie and Julia continue to speak with certainty about things they may or many not know much about, but you do get to hear one expert's opinions on testing hormone levels, strength-training in your 60's, and a certain sexy baseball player. 


Important Links:

Joan L. Kent MD
235 East 67th Street, Suite 204
New York, NY 10065

212-772-2900


NAMS (North American Menopause Society)

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25 Aug 2021Take Care of Your Slot with Amanda Barron and Pichchenda Bao01:07:58

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Did you know that women over 50 have sex? Did you know that it's ok to stop shaving your body hair? Of course you knew, but it's so validating to hear other people say these things! On this week's panel, post-menopausal and childless-by-choice actor and model Amanda Barron  renews our hope in horniness, and Cambodian-American mother-of-two poet and writer Pichchenda Bao invokes the wisdom of the women who came before us (and who most likely did not trim their bushes). We may move from the deep to the shallow, but at least we're still wet.

Important Links:

Amanda Barron: https://www.amanda-barron.com/

Pichchenda Bao: https://www.pichchendabao.com/

Menopause Impacts Human Brain Structure: 
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-90084-y

Ted Talk - How Menopause Affects the Brain: https://www.ted.com/talks/lisa_mosconi_how_menopause_affects_the_brain?language=en#t-4906

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08 Sep 2021This Skin is Bananas with Erin Williams01:06:59

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Let's talk "clean". Let's talk "green". Let's talk "pimples on a teen". This week, we interview Erin Williams, founder of the skincare and beauty line Erin's Faces, and host of the podcast Beauty Full Stories. Erin is a fountain of knowledge, tips, and honesty, and we love everything that comes out of her*. Listen and learn about how to shop for sunscreen, what the f*ck serum is, and get a discount code to buy her fantastic products! This chat is informative and downright delightful.
(*We haven't seen EVERYTHING that has come out of Erin. Get your minds out of the gutter.)

Shop Erin's Faces: https://erinsfaces.com/
Discount Code CTD10

Skin Deep (clean product database): https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/

Think Dirty (shop clean products):  https://thinkdirtyapp.com/

Beauty Full Stories Podcast: https://erinsfaces.com/pages/podcast

Suzanne Somers: https://www.suzannesomers.com/

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22 Sep 2021My Mitochondria Are Super Lazy with Christy Maskeroni Price and Alexis Paige00:58:30

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Do phrases like "intermittent fasting" and "strength training" make you sleepy? That's probably perimenopausal fatigue!  It's time to wake up and listen to this episode's panelists.  Personal trainer and nutrition coach Alexis Paige and nutritionist and yoga instructor Christy Maskeroni Price talk to us about our mitochondria, as well as the merits of eating the rainbow and sipping on bone broth and... WAKE UP! This stuff is important!

Alexis Paige

Christy Maskeroni Price - Alula Collective

The Guardian - There Will Be Blood

Menorrhagia explained

Tranexamic Acid explained

Brodo Bone Broth

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06 Oct 2021We Are (Pelvic) Floored! with Lindsey Vestal01:03:42

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Does "kegel" rhyme with "bagel", or is it "KEE-gel" like "beagle"? Pelvic floor therapist Lindsey Vestal teaches us that pronunciation is not what matters. All humans have a pelvic floor, and she explains where it's located, what it does, and how to seek help for issues that might be related to it. Tune in for an interactive exploration of your body the likes of which no podcast has ever attempted before!

The Functional Pelvis

Lindsey's Online Workshop: Kegels That Work

The recommended Kegel exerciser:  KGOAL

Fecal Transplant for Ulcerative Colitis

More on Fecal Transplantation

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20 Oct 2021Aggression, Digression, and a Nutella Obsession with Sofia Moncayo and Jenna Hodges Struble01:01:53

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Sofia Moncayo and Jenna Struble are badass women who do good things for other people. We love a do-gooder, but when do-gooders can also be candid about their body issues and emotional struggles, we melt a little. In this episode, we introduce a brand new segment, invent a brand new word (chromosonahormonal), and talk about a brand new subject: tits and ass. Ok fine, that last one isn't brand new, but it's always a good time. 

Donate to Mosaic Food Pantry and select "Covid 19 Sunnyside/Woodside Food Distribution" from the pulldown menu

AP News article featuring Sofia and her work

New England Center for Circus Arts
and @neccacircus on Instagram and FB

Glennon Doyle's Untamed

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03 Nov 2021HTML: How to Make a Life with Yvonne Davenport00:52:24

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Talking to Confidence Coach and DEI Consultant Yvonne Davenport made such an impression on us that we have not stopped asking ourselves the question "Am I making a living, or am I making a life?" Yvonne speaks with infectious enthusiasm about how to redefine what success looks like, how to make diversity and inclusion a priority, and how to give birth in a car without making a mess.

(Spoiler alert: her husband helped.)

Life Code

LENS Diversity

Menopause Myths

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17 Nov 2021Cancer Classes at Kellerman's with Stephanie Kilroy and Nancy Ellwood01:05:39

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Stephanie Kilroy and Nancy Ellwood are badass b*tches who have overcome breast cancer and rectal cancer, and who are determined to laugh about the good ("We were surrounded by family and friends"), the bad ("I went through menopause twice!"), and the ugly ("I had a bag of liquid poop hanging off my body"). Tune in for a candid chat about doodies, doobies, dildos, and how it always comes back to Dirty Dancing.

Steph: Valley Forge and Montgomery County, PA

Nancy: Arcadia Publishing

Chick Mission

Breastcancer.org: Effexor for treatment of hot flashes

NY Times: Should Your Cocktail Carry a Cancer Warning?

The Body Keeps the Score

Heal Documentary

What can I do to reduce my odds of being diagnosed with breast cancer?

Most common cancers in women and how to detect them early

Vessel Health

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01 Dec 2021Crowd Pleasers with Ophira Eisenberg01:10:46

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Ophira Eisenberg is super famous, y'all. She hosts NPR's Ask Me Another, she is a panelist on Hulu's Up Early Tonight, and her comedic memoir Screw Everyone: Sleeping My Way to Monogamy has been optioned for a feature film. We manage not to drool on ourselves while interviewing her, and instead get cozy about warm and fuzzy topics like geriatric pregnancy, breastfeeding shame, and weighted blankets. You'll even get a free lesson in Judaica. Teaser: a hamentashen is a vagina-shaped cookie. Regardless of your beliefs, treat yourself to a free Hanukkah gift and listen.

All things Ophira

Ophira's Insta and Facebook and Twitter

NPR's Ask Me Another

Screw Everyone: Sleeping My Way to Monogamy

Menopause Myths

Dancing Dreidels

Don't Pee in Your Eye

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05 Jan 2022How to Pinch a Loaf with Kelly Kane01:09:19

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We thought we were going to talk to Kelly Kane about her 20+ years as a Pilates trainer and ease into a discussion about her new courses in female sexuality and aging, and while we did talk about these things, the conversation took twists and turns we never could have foreseen. We touched on topics such as crystals for the vagina, fishing rubber tires out of the rivers of Vermont, and Ellie and Julia's shared history of nakedness. What better way to start 2022? We're already calling it The Year of the C-Spot. (You'll have to listen to find out exactly what that means.)

Kelly Kane website
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Kinected Center
Gil Hedley
Chakrubs jade eggs
Predicting your menopause

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19 Jan 2022Who is Mary Penomause? with Alison Crockett and Cate Frazier-Neely01:10:02

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Did you know that hormonal changes affect the sound of your voice? Did you know that the vagina and the throat are structurally similar? Did you know that the speculum your gyno uses was invented as a result of experiments done on enslaved Black women? Are we starting to sound like the little boy from Jerry Maguire? Is that an outdated reference, or is it the perfect reference for our target demographic? Don't answer any of that. Instead, listen to us chat with Cate Frazier-Neely and Alison Crockett, both singers and vocal teachers who have fascinating things to teach us about how our throats are affected by this party we call peri.

Cate Frazier-Neely
Alison Crockett
Alison's facebook
Singing Through Change book
Singing Through Change website
Singing Through Change facebook group
Singing Through Change Instagram
The Vocal Vaginal Connection
5 Ways Your Body is Telling You Your Cortisol is High
What is Cortisol?
Stress and the HPA Axis


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15 Dec 2021Sex in the Empire State Building and Poop in the Closet00:51:01

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We've been podcasting for 6 months now, so we decided to use this final episode of 2021 to review our primary perimenopausal complaints  and discuss what remedies we have tried, what has worked, and what has not. We also have FUN, surprising each other with questions and divulging dirty secrets that we didn't know about each other, even after 27 years of friendship. Tune in to learn things about Ellie and Julia that you never knew. Naughty things. Blackmail-worthy things.


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02 Feb 2022Sad, Fat, and Dry with Dr. Linda Dahl01:06:11

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Who would think that an otolaryngologist could make us giggle like 12 year-olds at a slumber party, but that's exactly what happened with the fabulous Dr. Linda Dahl. You will hear a great deal of cackles, guffaws, and even a hearty snort as we cover the journey of this incredible woman who has excelled at enough careers to span several lifetimes. Learn about her work as one of the only female ringside fight doctors, her path from breastfeeding frustration to becoming an expert and author of two books on the topic, and her unique approach to confidence via the advice of a patient who also happened to be a dominatrix. Best of all, she reminds us that the symptoms of perimenopause can be so confusing that even a medical expert can be convinced that she's dying. Dying... of menopause.

Dr. Linda Dahl
Linda's Facebook
Linda's Twitter
Linda's Instagram
Better Breastfeeding: A Doctor's Guide to Nursing Without Pain and Frustration
Tooth and Nail: The Making of a Female Fight Doctor
Clinician's Guide to Breastfeeding: Evidence-based Evaluation and Management
August Period Products
Buzzfeed Article about Nadya Okamoto
Dr. Gary Goldman
Dr. Carolyn DeLucia

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16 Feb 2022Like Daughter, Like Mother with Michelle MacDonald and Joan MacDonald00:58:29

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Michelle and Joan MacDonald broke the internet after Michelle, a body builder and transformation coach, guided her then 70-year-old mother through a process that resulted in life-changing weight loss and the subsequent elimination of a slew of health problems. Joan's before and after photos can be found at Train with Joan, and you should take a peek before listening to understand the full impact of what these women achieved together. This is our first chat with a mother-daughter pairing, and we couldn't have found more mind-blowing specimens. Now excuse us while we go lift something...

Michelle MacDonald - Your Healthy Hedonista
Michelle's Insta
Michelle's Facebook
Michelle's e-Book The Best of the Basics
Joan MacDonald - Train with Joan
Joan's Insta
Joan's Facebook
The Wonder Women
My Macros
Science, Bitch!

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02 Mar 2022A Pap "Schmear" Does Not Involve Cream Cheese with Dr. Mandy Leonhardt01:00:02

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German-born and UK-based Dr. Mandy Leonhardt may have a youthful face and a calm demeanor, but she is tired of putting up with bullsh*t. She inspires other women to take proper care of themselves via her integrative and holistic menopause clinic Hormone Equilibrium, hosting England's first Menopause Cafe, and by simply saying no to things she doesn't want to do. (Saying "no"...  what a revelation!) In our delightful chat with Mandy we discuss habit stacking, people-pleasing, and all different kinds of buckets.

We know what you're thinking. Buckets???

Just listen, Kittens. All will be explained.

Mandy's Medical Practice: Hormone Equilibrium
Mandy's Insta
Mandy's Twitter
Menopause Cafe
Habit Stacking
The Menopause Murders

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30 Mar 2022My Face is Falling with Jennifer DeMaio00:55:03

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Botox. Injectables. Fillers. Some of us get them and some of us don't, but most of us have opinions and MANY of us have misinformation. Join us for a fantastic chat with Jennifer DeMaio, a Board Certified Family Nurse Practitioner (FNP-C) and Certified Aesthetic Nurse Specialist (CANS) who is the founder and CEO of FACE Aesthetic Artistry, a medical aesthetics and medical-grade skincare practice. Listen as she teaches Julia things she didn't know about when and when NOT to wash her face, debunks Ellie's theory that Botox might make her face explode like a can of SpaghettiOs, and throws out terms like "blepharospasm" and "festoons" in a way that makes us all tingly inside. Whether you plan to age as naturally and gracefully as possible, or whether you want all of the needles in all of the places, this episode is for you.

FACE Aesthetic Artistry
Jen's Insta
Jen's Facebook
REM Rebound

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