Calling Bullsh!t (iHeartPodcasts)

We made this podcast for all of us: consumers, business leaders and investors who are trying  to encourage, create and grow better, more sustainable businesses. And hopefully to inspire all leaders with the ways they might make their own organizations better and more successful.

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CoreCivic’s purpose promotes “change,” “compassion,” and “community.” But can for-profit prisons truly be the change they wish to see in the world? In this episode, we explore the paradoxes and pitfalls of an industry with a murky history.

Guests:

Sharon Brett - Legal Director, ACLU Kansas

César Cuauhtémoc García Hernández - Gregory Williams Chair in Civil Rights and Civil Liberties at Ohio State University College of Law and Author 

David Safavian - General counsel, American Conservative Union Foundation

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. Find out more at https://callingbullshitpodcast.com/. 

Background Reading:

• Learn more about Sharon’s work at the ACLU Kansas.
• Read César’s book, ‘Migrating to Prison’.
• Learn more about David Safavian and the American Conservative Union Foundation.

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Little known fact: only 3% of artists on Spotify make more than one thousand dollars. And the people who work on albums who aren’t top-billed artists, like backup singers and songwriters, make even less. In fact, most artists make fractions of a penny per stream.

So where does all that cash go? 

Show Notes

• Read Blake Morgan’s article about his meeting with Spotify execs: Spotify’s Fatal Flaw Exposed: How My Closed-Door Meeting with Execs Ended in a Shouting Match
• Learn more about Kaydence and her impactful work with the 100 Percenters here.
• David Turner writes a weekly blog called Penny Fractions ‘as a way to think through various record industry topics’.

This episode uses the following tracks from FMA under a Creative Commons Attribution License: "What Dreams Become" by Audiobinger, "Moonlove Funk" by Cullah, "Ugly Truth" by HoliznaCC0, "Leave The Country (Instrumental)" by Anthem of Rain.

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Noom’s app promises a long-term approach to weight loss based on psychology and personalization.  And it’s popular. It has 250 million downloads, ads that pop up everywhere from podcasts to the Superbowl, and a valuation of $3.7 billion. 

But is being a weight loss app even the right goal? Or is it just the perfect business model?

Show Notes

• Read Taylor Majewski’s deep-dive into the app titled ‘‘The Dark Side of Noom’.
• Check out Eling Tsai’s full-service nutritional consultancy work at Food in Common.
• Buy Jane Ogden’s recent book Health Psychology which examines health behaviors through reviewing key research in the field. 

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Farming is a notoriously difficult profession, high risk, and often low reward. 

In India, agriculture supports roughly two-thirds of the population. And the majority of families who grow and sell crops do so on a small scale at great personal financial risk. 

But one company is working to change this system from the inside: India’s largest agri-tech enterprise, Samunnati. 

For this positive case study, we speak with Samunnati Founder and CEO Anil Kumar about how they are creating better markets for smallholder farmers across every state in India.

Show Notes

• Learn more about how farmer collectives help entail competitive and holistic engagement beyond finance.
• Read about Anil Kumar’s journey from bank clerk to founder and CEO of Samunnati.
• Samunnati recently partnered with GROWiT to promote protective farming techniques to benefit the planet. 

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Twenty years ago, BP attempted an ambitious rebrand claiming that henceforth the initials BP would stand for Beyond Petroleum (formally British Petroleum). Two years ago, and STILL one of the world’s largest oil and gas producers, they announced their new climate-friendly purpose: To reimagine energy for people and our planet. So what are the actions CEO Bernard Looney and his leadership team would have to take to plug this gusher and actually win back our trust?

To get to the bottom of this barrel, we talk with three experts on energy, climate, and marketing: Tyson Slocum, Energy Program Director at national consumer advocacy group Public Citizen, Duncan McLaren, Climate Policy Expert, and Jamie Henn, co-founder of 350.org and Director of Fossil Free Media.

Guests:

Tyson Slocum - Energy Program Director, Public Citizen

Duncan McLaren - Climate Policy Expert

Jamie Henn - Co-founder of 350.org and Director of Fossil Free Media

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. Find out more at https://callingbullshitpodcast.com/.

Background Reading:

• Read more about Tyson Slocum’s work at Public Citizen here.
• Learn about Duncan McLaren’s latest research at Lancaster University.
• Learn about Fossil Free Media’s recent projects and how to get involved.

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The United States of America. What is its true purpose, and whose lives does it exist to serve? In this special episode, we take a look at the current state of one of the world’s most powerful purpose-led organizations.

This episode looks at one of the most powerful purpose-led organizations in the world: The United States of America. With polarization and animosity between the left and the right at record levels, is the American dream still alive? What needs to be done to make our shared purpose clear, inspiring, and true?

We ask a wide variety of people who identify as Americans, and one who does not, to weigh in. We reach across the political spectrum to hear different takes before having an in-depth discussion about potential solutions with former (and future?) presidential candidate, Andrew Yang.

Guests:

Andrew Yang - Founder, Forward Party

Tatewin Means - Executive Director, Thunder Valley

David Safavian - General counsel, American Conservative Union Foundation

Adrian Bonenberger - Investigative Journalist

Jaeki Cho - Co-Owner, Alumni 

Mikaela Reid - Audio Producer, the New York Times 

Basil Soper - Podcast Researcher & Guest Curator, Calling Bullsh!t Podcast

Yvonne Clarke - Former law secretary 

Andrean Clarke - Public school teacher

Jonathan Craig - Pool Technician 

Penelope Soper - Middle-schooler 

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. 

Background Reading:

• Read Andrew Yang’s book ‘Forward’
• Learn more about Tatewin Means and Thunder Valley 
• Learn more about David Safavian and the American Conservative Union Foundation 
• Read Adrian Bonenberger’s latest articles here. 
• Learn more about Jaeki Cho and Alumni here. 

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Allbirds was founded on the purpose of “Better things made in a better way.” After 8 years of business, they’ve invented numerous ways to walk that talk.

In 2014, Allbirds co-founders Tim Brown and Joey Zwillinger created a way to make sneakers out of wool instead of oil. Only 8 years later, Allbirds is now a publicly-traded company working to put their entire industry on a more sustainable path. How did they get here, and what did it take to take it all on?

Today’s episode is a 1-on-1 with Allbirds co-CEO, Joey Zwillinger. Joey shares with us how Allbirds’ purpose has driven product innovation, and how the company keeps its thinking fresh and its products recyclable.

Guests: 

Joey Zwillinger - Co-Founder and CO-CEO, Allbirds

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. 

Show Notes:

• Allbirds is adding another element of sustainability to their business model with ReRun: a marketplace for upcycled products.

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The FDA's recent sequence of decisions has Juul fighting to keep its pod charged. Some clap. Others boo. Most are left scratching their heads. Will this help teens quit vaping or just open up the market for more competitors? 

As a Silicon Valley startup, Juul’s focus on hyper-growth targeted toward young people put them in hot water. But, the reason the FDA gave for taking their product off the market may surprise you. And now Juul is ready to defend their purpose to transition adult smokers away from combustible cigarettes and fight back in court. 

Join us for a Season 2 update episode with Lauren Etter, a reporter at Bloomberg News & Author of “The Devil’s Playbook: Big Tobacco, JUUL, and the Addiction of a New Generation”.

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In our season finale, we revisit the trust crisis, reflect on what we’ve learned so far, and respond to some great questions and suggestions submitted by our listeners.

We end where it all began: with an examination of the trust crisis and what we’ve learned about it in Season 1.  Then we get BS called on us by a listener who makes some great points – which leads to a conversation with ad exec-turned-activist, Matt Rivitz. We discuss the role of advertising and marketing companies in the Bullshit-o-sphere and the possibilities for making tangible change.

Guests:

Matt Rivtiz - Chief Purpose Officer, Nobl Media & Founder, Sleeping Giants 

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. Find out more at https://callingbullshitpodcast.com/.

Background Reading:

• Sleeping Giants’ Wikipedia page provides a solid overview of the history of the organization and prior initiatives.
• What is responsible advertising? Learn about how Nobl media is changing the landscape of how we think about the advertising industry. 

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Here on the show, we say bullsh!t is the gap between word and deed - it’s what the BS scale is all about-  but not everyone defines BS exactly the same way. 

So we thought...let's kick off season two by diving into BS itself. What is it? Where does it come from? At what point does it become dangerous? And how can we all keep our BS detectors in fighting shape? 

Show Notes:

• Watch John Petrocelli’s viral Ted Talk on detecting bullshit and buy his book here. 

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Robinhood aims to make investing friendly, approachable, and understandable for newcomers and experts alike. 

Although trading is free for the user, Robinhood makes a small amount of money for every single trade made on the app. The more you trade, the more money they make.

So is making investing free through an app the same as democratization?

Show Notes

• Read Devin Mills’ paper assessing the association between trading cryptocurrency and problem gambling. 
• Haley Sacks has a 'wealth’ of free resources and investing courses on Finance is Cool.
• Learn more about investing with Charles Rotblut’s book: Better Good than Lucky.
• Special thanks to James Royal for his contribution to this episode.

This episode uses the following tracks from FMA under a Creative Commons Attribution License: “Assignment” by BoxCat Games, “Day Bird” and “Calm The Fuck Down” by Broke For Free, “Another beep beek beer please” by Rolemusic, “Feels Good 2 B” and “Fat Caps” by Jason Shaw.

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Web3 combines the ideals of the original internet with the most exciting aspects of new technology. 

And the reason this tech currently embodies Web3 is that the architecture of this technology - the very fabric of it - is open source, anti-authority, and decentralized. 

It could be a version of the internet where everyone has custody over their data. But it could also be a place where fraud runs rampant, where people hack each other’s data, and a place that promises something that will never exist. 

Show Notes:

• Buy a copy of Glen Weyl’s book Radical Markets: Uprooting Capitalism and Democracy for a Just Society here. 
• Read Molly White’s blog ‘Web 3 is Going Just Great’.
• Vlad Ginzburg created blockparty.co to allow creators and brands to create unique, connected NFTs. 

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The notoriously tight-lipped global consulting firm McKinsey claims to be values-driven and purpose-led. But do their deeds back up their words? Or does their value of “serving the client first” mean every other value comes second? Can we really trust any company to be purpose-led when they operate in almost total secrecy?

Show Notes:

• Buy a copy of When McKinsey Comes to Town: The Hidden Influence of the World’s Most Powerful Consulting Firm by Mike Forsythe and Walt Bogdanich. 
• Learn more about Erik Edstrom and his work here.
• Connect with Rizwan Naveed and read about his current role at Google. 

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The Food and Drug Administration has expansive jurisdiction. On their website, they say “The FDA strives above all else to safeguard the health and wellbeing of the American people." 

Given what we learn in this episode we’d say that’s highly questionable. 

Join us as we break down the alarming story of the FDA with a 27-year veteran of the FDA, Dr. Richard Williams, author and journalist Lauren Etter, physician and professor Dr. Gail Van Norman, and conflict of interest professor Genevieve P. Kanter.  

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We’re back. Join us as we ask weight loss app Noom to step on the scale, analyze Robinhood’s aim to “democratize finance for all”  and consult with some real experts on how well (or not) McKinsey is living their purpose, to name just a few.  

We also feature companies who are getting it right: we talk to the CEOs of global giant Unilever, female leadership network Chief, and Indian agri-business Samunnati. 

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Chief cofounders Lindsay Kaplan and Carolyn Childers met at a lame networking event for women and realized on the spot that there was a dire need for something better, especially for senior female executives. 

Today we talk to this dynamic duo about how that fateful event set them on a path to create Chief – the private network valued at over $1B+  focused on supporting women at the top and keeping them there.

Show Notes

• Listen to Ty’s full conversation with Lindsay and Carolyn at the Collision Conference in June 2022. 
• Chief recently announced that they are launching in the UK. Read about it in Bloomberg.
• Watch Chief’s hilarious parody commercial “This Guy Means Business” and listen to their podcast The New Rules of Business. 

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Airbnb began with a humble idea — help people live like a local, with locals. Are they truly owning that, or is it time to pay the rent?

From their humble beginnings as a site for staying with locals, Airbnb has grown to an influential force that shapes the way millions of people live and travel globally. Today, they have 5.6 million listings in over 220 countries. 

In this episode, we explore Airbnb’s role in gentrification and housing shortages with activist Murray Cox, the founder of an independent data platform called Inside Airbnb. Then, we are joined by former New York City Councilman Ben Kallos and Executive Director of Jane Place, Veronica Reed to explore ways that Airbnb might take a new path. 

Guests:

Murray Cox - Founder, Chief Data Activist, Inside Airbnb

Ben Kallos - Digital at USDS and former New York City Council Member

Veronica Reed - Executive Director at Jane Place Neighborhood Sustainability Initiative

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Background Reading:

• Learn more about how Murray Cox is using data to hold Airbnb accountable at Inside Airbnb.
• Read about the law Ben Kallos wrote to force hosts of 38,000 Airbnbs to register with the city to make sure that every single one is safe and legal.
• Read more about land trusts and Veronica Reed’s work at Jane Place.

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Is investment firm BlackRock really using their power for good? In this episode, we grab the bull by the horns to find out if BlackRock is truly pushing for change. 

$9,000,000,000,000. That’s the amount of money Larry Fink and his colleagues at BlackRock manage. Over the past few years, Mr. Fink has begun to use his powerful position to promote the need for all companies to become purpose-led and create positive social and environmental impact.

Can BlackRock drive real change? And to do so, who might they need to piss off? In this episode, we dive deep into the world’s largest asset manager to uncover the balance between Fink’s message and the constraints that might hold BlackRock back.

Guests:

Andrew Behar - CEO of As You Sow & Author

Matthew Weatherley-White - Former Co-Founder & Managing Director of The

CAPROCK Group

Tariq Fancy - Founder & CEO of the Rumie Initiative, Former CIO of Sustainable Investing at BlackRock

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Background Reading:

• Read Andrew Behar’s book and learn more about As You Sow.
• Follow Matthew Weatherley-White on LinkedIn. 
• Read about Rumie-Learn and Tariq Fancy here.

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Juul claims to be trying to save lives by getting smokers to switch to their product. In this episode, we cut through all the smoke to see if we can find the burning truth.

“Hey bro, can I hit your vape?”

If you’re one of the 5 million Gen Z-ers who smoke e-cigarettes, the answer is a resounding “bet.” E-cigarette manufacturer JUUL set out on a mission to build a safer cigarette alternative, but along the way, a whole new generation became hooked on nicotine. Is Juul addicted to profits? Or was this simply a slip on their journey toward reducing harm? 

Guests:

Lauren Etter - Reporter at Bloomberg News & Author

Jamie Ducharme - Health Correspondent at TIME & Author of “Big Vape: The Incendiary Rise of Juul”

Greg Conley - President of the American Vaping Association 

We’d love to hear what you think about the show. Maybe you’re inspired to take action, maybe you disagree with today’s bullshit rating. Either way, we want to hear about it. Leave us a message at 212-505-2305. You might even be featured on an upcoming episode. 

Background Reading:

• Read Lauren Etter’s book, ‘The Devil’s Playbook’.
• Read Jamie Ducharme’s book, ‘Big Vape’.
• Learn more about Greg Conley and the American Vaping Association.

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Facebook is back in the news again. And turns out, it’s worse than we thought. In part 2 we take a look at all the recent whistleblower revelations, including just how much the company knows about the harm it causes. 

The Wall Street Journal dropped conclusive proof that Facebook knew that their algorithms were dangerous all along. Whistleblower Frances Haugen went public with allegations that among other things, Facebook routinely places profits over public safety. The Senate commission on the capital insurrection got underway. Oh, and Facebook ignored all of that and they announced the name change to “Meta”. 

Join us to hear what UCLA Professor and author Ramesh Srinivasan had to say about all of this. And for a revision of Facebook’s BS score. Spoiler alert: it didn’t go down.

Guest:

Ramesh Srinivasan - UCLA Professor & Author 

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Background Reading:

• Read Ramesh Srinivasan’s book ‘Beyond the Valley’.

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Better life for chickens, better outcomes for people and the planet.

For Vital Farms, it was the egg. In 2009, they set out to rethink how our food is produced by defining a new standard: Pasture-Raised. Now, they’re the largest producer of pasture-raised eggs in the world, and their sights are set on so much more. Where did this mission come from, and how have they successfully taken on industrial egg giants?

Today’s episode is a 1-on-1 with Vital Farms CEO Russell Diez-Canseco. Russell speaks about how the company’s purpose has guided every decision made over the last 13 years — from the barn to the boardroom, and every other moment on the journey of making their purpose real in the world.

Guest:

Russell Diez-Canseco - President & CEO of Vital Farms

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Background Reading:

• Read more about Vital Farms and Russell Diez-Canseco here. 

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The NCAA claims to be on the same team as the players. But is it? In this episode, we analyze the NCAA’s playbook and propose a whole new game plan. 

Pride doesn’t pay the bills. But for years, pride has been the only compensation offered to college athletes who play in the NCAA – the governing body of college sports. The NCAA claims to be defending the concept of “amateurism” which they assert is the only reason fans watch the games. Meanwhile, the billions they rake in benefit nearly everyone but the players. Even worse, once their 4 years are up, many student-athletes leave without even an education to fall back on. 

With the help of author Joe Nocera, professor Dr. Ellen Staurowsky and athlete/activist Dallas Hobbs, we analyze the NCAA’s playbook and propose a whole new game plan.

Guests:

Joe Nocera - Business Columnist of Bloomberg & Author

Dr. Ellen Staurowsky - Ithaca College Professor of Sports Media, Roy H. Park School of Communications

Dallas Hobbs - Activist & Student-Athlete of Washington State University

Background Reading:

• Read Joe Nocera’s book, ‘Indentured’.
• Learn more about Ellen Staurowsky’s work here.
• View Dallas Hobb’s design work here.

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Unilever, better known as the 100-year-old company whose products you’ve grown up using: Dove Soap, Lipton Tea, and Ben & Jerry's to name a few.

Join us for a candid conversation with Unilever CEO Alan Jope where we discuss the challenges and opportunities of modernizing a purpose-led company with 3.4 billion customers in more than 100 countries.

If you love the show, rate and review us on Apple Podcasts. Find out more at https://callingbullshitpodcast.com/. This episode features additional music from Joseph Stevens.

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In this episode, we look at Facebook’s development from dorm-room prank to being one of the world’s most powerful and dangerous companies. Find out more at https://callingbullshitpodcast.com/.

January 6th, 2021. For the first time in U.S. history, an armed mob at the U.S. Capitol attempted to disrupt the peaceful transition of power from one presidential administration to the next. In the aftermath, it became clear that Facebook had played an outsized role in inciting the event.

How did Facebook go from a place for people to share silly cat videos, to a space for bad actors to make the world considerably worse? In this episode we look at Facebook, starting all the way back to when it began as a dorm-room prank and trace its development into one of the world’s most powerful and dangerous companies.

Guests:

Sinan Aral - MIT Professor & Author 

Lucie Greene - Strategist & Author 

Rosemarie Ryan - CEO of co:collective

Kamran Asghar - Fonder & CEO of Crossmedia

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Show Notes:

• In October of 2021, The Atlantic scoured thousands of internal documents from Facebook to explore the company’s impact on our democracy and how employees feel about their contributions.
• What can the humanities do to instill a moral or ethical compass within Big Tech, or more specifically, Mark Zuckerberg? Not much, according to Wired.
• Lobbying by Big Tech is at an all-time high, with companies such as Meta and Amazon spending big to curb strict regulations and ensure their power holds steady.

Background Reading:

• Read Sinan Aral’s book: The Hype Machine
• Learn more about Light Years and read Lucie Greene’s book here. 
• Learn more about co:collective and Rosemarie Ryan here.
• Read about CrossMedia and Kamran Asghar here.

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We all like to think that if we saw wrongdoing, we’d do the right thing - that when confronted with a problem that goes against our ethics or morals, we’d speak up or take action. But what if calling bullshit meant damaging or ending your career, your family relationships, or even compromising your personal safety? 

Show Notes:

• Learn about Mary Inman’s incredible work at Constantine Cannon here. 
• Read about Kyle Welch and Stephen Stubben’s research on whistleblowing. 
• Check out Dana Gold’s Newsweek article about keeping whistleblowers safe. 

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The first podcast about purpose-washing…the gap between what companies say they stand for and what they actually do — and what they would need to change to practice what they preach. Calling Bullsh!t is hosted by Ty Montague, the Chairman and Chief Purpose Officer of co:collective and distributed by iHeartMedia. Launching February 9, 2022 with new episodes released weekly.

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