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21 Mar 202255. Data Science and KNIME with Maarit Widmann00:20:36

Maarit Widmann is a data scientist at KNIME (www.knime.com)
In this episode, we discuss:

  • What KNIME is
  • Why the visual programming paradigm (workflows, rather than code) is appealing to both technical and non-technical professionals
  • The most challenging aspects of the data science lifecycle, and what auditors should be aware of
  • The most important aspects of the data science lifecycle 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Feb 202356. Cathy O'Neil, Algorithm Auditor, Author of WMathD00:44:06

Our guest is Cathy O'Neil, author of Weapons of Math Destruction: how big data increases inequality and threatens democracy.

Cathy joined us to discuss critical aspects for auditors to consider, including:

  • The human element: why understanding 'for whom an algorithm might fail' is more important than the detailed technical design of an algorithm.
  • Algorithm testing: the importance of post-deployment testing to ensure there are no unintended adverse outcomes. 
  • Setting standards: the need for industry-wide standards so that regulators can ensure there is no bias or discrimination in how algorithms operate. 
  • Laggers and leaders: the four big industries/domains using algorithms that need to step up audit in their space and how law-makers and regulators are catching up.
  • Emerging AI, e.g. language models/chatbots - why trust by users is key, and the pros and cons of using these models.

Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

13 Dec 202357. Michael Drechnowicz, Head of Internal Audit, TK Elevator00:35:06

Embracing Internal Audit Evolution: A Conversation with Michael Drechnowicz, Head of Internal Audit at TK Elevator


In this episode, Michael shares his insights on the evolution of IA in his role as Head of Internal Audit with a major player in the global elevator and escalator industry. 

His work demonstrates a shift from traditional finance-focus towards extensive business process coverage, ranging from sales to purchasing and fraud investigations. 

We discuss the increasing importance of diversity in global audit teams and how technology, particularly Artificial Intelligence (AI) and data analytics, are transforming internal audit processes. 

The conversation further touches on AI's importance in identifying and managing risks, improving process efficiency, and augmenting the learning experiences of junior auditors. 

Looking ahead, Michael sees a promising and dynamic future for internal auditors amidst rapid digital transformation.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

27 Aug 202458. The final episode00:44:11

This is the final episode of this podcast. 
It includes:

  • an explanation - why the podcast is coming to a close.
  • snippets from a selection of prior episodes
  • a brief introduction to Algorithm Integrity Matters - the new Risk Insights podcast.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

23 Feb 20201. Quality - Data within Internal Audit and Performance Audit00:13:32

In this episode we explore Principle 2 - Quality - for the use of data within Internal Audit and Performance Audit.

Sub-principles
2a: Understand the audience and meet their needs. 
2b: Focus on the audit objective. 
2c: Ensure quality (a.k.a. quality assurance). 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

23 Mar 20203. Eight Open Access exceptions - Data used within Internal Audit and Performance Audit00:24:08

In this episode we explore Open Access to data used within Internal Audit and Performance Audit teams, with focus on 8 exceptions that may necessitate a level of restriction. 

In general, access should be as open as possible, as explained in the previous episode. 
But there are 8 specific exceptions to consider, carefully: 

  1. Cross-border concerns. 
  2. Strict organizational data governance regimes. 
  3. Highly sensitive data. 
  4. The need to maintain Chinese walls. 
  5. Very large audit teams. 
  6. Where specific data is sensitive. 
  7. If there is risk that data will be altered. 
  8. Vulnerability - heightened security/cyber risk. 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

08 Mar 20202. Open access to data used within audit and to other static data stores (e.g. data warehouses)00:21:10

In this episode we explore why restricting access to data is less efficient and less effective than we intend it to be.  That is, such “controls” create risk. 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

05 Apr 20204. Increasing audit value by going beyond the audit report00:32:34

In this episode we discuss going beyond the audit report. That is, the audit report is not necessarily the end point or final deliverable. There are a few things that we can do to go beyond that and increase the value that we provide. 

This includes:

  1. Remedial actions - going beyond the initial remedial action. 
  2. Using the report for maximum impact. 
  3. Following up on reported items. 

Link: The Plain English Campaign


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

19 Apr 20205. The five most commonly cited challenges when using data for audits (Part 1)00:19:16

In this episode we discuss five key challenges that assurance professionals - internal auditors and performance auditors - face in using data for audits.
This is part 1 - outlining the challenges.  In parts 2 to 6, we will discuss solutions to each challenge individually.

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Apr 20208. False positives - solutions to #3 of the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges00:13:22

This is part 4 of a 6-part series.
In the first episode, we discussed the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges.  In this episode, we discuss solutions to the 3rd challenge - false positives.

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

30 Apr 202010. Reporting (& timing) - solutions to #5 of the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges00:12:54

This is part 6 of a 6-part series.
In the first episode, we discussed the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges.  In this episode, we discuss solutions to the 5th challenge - reporting (and timing).

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

29 Apr 20209. Superficiality - solutions to #4 of the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges00:11:15

This is part 5 of a 6-part series.
In the first episode, we discussed the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges.  In this episode, we discuss solutions to the 4th challenge - superficiality.

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

27 Apr 20207. Low value - solutions to #2 of the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges00:11:16

This is part 3 of a 6-part series.
In the first episode, we discussed the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges.  In this episode, we discuss solutions to the 2nd challenge - low value.

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

26 Apr 20206. Access to data - solutions to #1 of the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges00:17:43

This is part 2 of a 6-part series.
In the first episode, we discussed the 5 most commonly cited data in audit challenges.  In this episode, we discuss solutions to the 1st challenge - access to data.

The five items are:

  1. Access to data - you can't get all the data, or you can't get it quickly enough.
  2. Low value - the analysis doesn't provide new insights.
  3. False positives - too many of them; results are overwhelmingly noisy, distracting your focus.
  4. Superficiality - the results are not deep enough to properly understand and refine the problems or to provide opportunities for improvement.
  5. Reporting - the results are not available in time for reporting, the report is not tailored to the audience.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

03 May 202011. Evaluating and using customer feedback and complaints data for audits00:17:26

In this episode we discuss the evaluation of customer feedback/complaints and the use of customer feedback data, within internal audit and performance audit.

This includes:

  1. Auditing the customer feedback process
  2. Using the customer feedback content (data/information)
  3. Using customer feedback data for deeper, more effective, audit analytics.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

17 May 202012. Open Source software for internal audit and performance audit00:18:54

In this episode we discuss the use of open source software for internal audit and performance audit.

We bust 3 common open source myths:

  1. Security - that open source is less secure
  2. Skills - that open source software has smaller talent pools
  3. Quality - that open source has lower quality.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

31 May 202013. Open Data for internal audit and performance audit00:24:19

In this episode we discuss the use of Open Data for internal audit and performance audit.

Links 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Jun 202015. Using data for audit efficiency outcomes00:16:43

In this episode we discuss how using data enables audit efficiency outcomes.

That is, if we think outside of the audit bubble and consider the broader organizational context (in the case of internal audit) or broader public sector context (in the case of performance audit), then using data for our audits can help improve efficiency. 


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

14 Jun 202014. How auditors need to think about Data Governance00:20:39

In this episode we discuss:

  • 3 perspectives that auditors should consider regarding data governance, and 
  • 3 considerations for auditors in implementing data governance within their functions/teams.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

26 Jul 202017. What auditors need to know about using and auditing Artificial Intelligence00:18:00

In this episode we discuss a few key matters that auditors need to know relating to the use of AI and auditing AI.

3 key objectives: 

  1. Bias and ethics. 
  2. Providing sound decision making support. 
  3. Maximizing the opportunities. 

3 key considerations:

  1. Model accuracy.
  2. The quality of data. 
  3. Deploying, controlling, security and change.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

12 Jul 202016. The power of small data for audits: 5 ways to extract value00:16:44

In this episode we explore five ideas for working with small datasets as part of internal audits or performance audits.

  1. Extend the timeframe
  2. Combine with proprietary data
  3. Combine with open data
  4. Scenario analysis
  5. Natural language processing (free text)


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

09 Aug 202018. Why auditors are moving away from traditional audit software00:16:29

In this episode we explain why auditors are looking for alternatives to traditional audit management software and audit analytics software.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

23 Aug 202019. An introduction to Conor McGarrity00:11:49

In this episode we learn a bit about Conor, one of the co-hosts of the show. 
He explains what inspires him to promote the use of data for integrity and assurance.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

06 Sep 202020. Data related terminology that is commonly misused00:27:03

In this episode we discuss six (6) sets of words and phrases that are commonly misused.

  1. Using data vs analytics
  2. Algorithm vs model
  3. Data owner vs data "custodian"
  4. AI vs machine learning
  5. Open source vs open data
  6. Big data vs big data


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

20 Sep 202021. Four ways to approach the use of data for internal audits and performance audits00:31:19

In this episode we discuss four (4) approaches to using data for internal audits and performance audits:

  1. Reporting only
  2. Process focused
  3. Hypothesis-based
  4. Exploratory (a.k.a. data driven or data led)


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

27 Sep 202022. Josam Watson - CRO of Tyme and ex-CAE00:39:06

Note: This is a guest interview.

Josam Watson is the CRO of Tyme, a digital banking group that owns one of the world’s fastest growing digital banks. 

He was previously Chief Audit Executive of a large credit union. Before that, he spent time in internal audit, risk consulting, external audit and in banking operations.

Josam talks to us about what he has learned working in various international markets. 

He shares his views on a range of issues including: 

  • internal audit independence (spoiler: he thinks it is overplayed)
  • how internal audit and risk functions have the same focus
  • exerting influence in a positive way over organisational culture
  • Internal audit creating value – by focusing on both performance and conformance
  • why every auditor should have a data mindset, to find and solve business problems.  

Josam enjoys networking with risk and assurance professionals.
You can reach out to him on LinkedIn.


Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

04 Oct 202023. Maximize the benefits of using data within audit00:23:25

In this episode we explore Principle 3 - Maximize the Benefits of the use of data within Internal Audit and Performance Audit.

Sub-principles
3a: Sharing lessons amongst the team. 
3b: Identifying other risks and opportunities. 
3c: Continuous improvement. 


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

09 Feb 20200. Introduction00:07:47

In this episode we introduce the podcast:
 - who it is for
 - what we discuss
 - the format / structure
 - release schedule
 - how listeners can get involved

This episode was recorded in October 2020, eight months after the first episode was released, then backdated to reflect as the first episode of the show.  
We explain why we did this at the beginning of the episode.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

18 Oct 202024. Discovery exercises can help de-risk internal audits and performance audits00:20:09

In this episode we discuss why discovery exercises are becoming very useful for audits.
They help de-risk the conduct of audits, and the three main scenarios we use them for:
 

  1. Audit topic validation and overall audit planning
  2. Scoping, depth and deliverable
  3. Planning individual audits


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

01 Nov 202025. An introduction to Yusuf Moolla00:11:07

In this episode we learn a bit about Yusuf, one of the co-hosts of the show.
He explains what he considers to be the highlights of his career.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

08 Nov 202026. Carlos Phoenix on cyber and audit00:29:58

Note: This is a guest interview.


Carlos talks to us about what auditors should consider regarding cyber security and information security. 

He shares his views on a range of issues including: 

  • Cyber security
  • How cyber security and information security differ
  • What auditors should focus on in planning and conducting cyber audits  

Carlos is open to connecting with like-minded professionals.
You can reach out to him on LinkedIn.


Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

06 Dec 202030. John Moore - CTO of Queensland Audit Office00:19:32

Note: This is a guest interview.


John talks to us about what audit offices (a.k.a. supreme audit institutions) do and the role of the CTO in an audit focused organization.

He shares his views on a range of issues including: 

  • His positive experience with their (outsourced) internal auditors
  • How he supports an audit focused organization
  • Cyber and data governance frameworks; evolving IT practices that auditors need to keep a close eye on.

John is open to connecting with like-minded professionals.
You can reach out to him on LinkedIn.


Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

22 Nov 202028. David Haylor - specialist Internal Audit search and selection00:28:51

Note: This is a guest interview.

David talks to us about IAC's latest report, the Talent Barometer and the upcoming Diversity report. 

He shares his views on a range of issues including: 

  • Data skill gaps
  • Leadership skill gaps
  • Why culture is important

David is open to connecting with Internal Auditors.
You can reach out to him on LinkedIn.

Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

15 Nov 202027. Improve reporting by answering these questions about your audience00:14:59

In this episode we discuss how answering a few simple questions about your audience can improve your audit reporting.

These help make several report areas better:

  1. Scope and title
  2. Context
  3. Findings / Improvement opps


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

29 Nov 202029. Machine Learning Assurance with Andrew Clark - CTO of Monitaur00:28:59

Note: This is a guest interview.


Andrew talks to us about machine learning (ML) and what auditors should consider regarding ML assurance. 

You can reach out to Andrew via the Monitaur website.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Feb 202137. Using data in performance audit with Gemma Diamond and Morag Campsie (Audit Scotland)00:36:05

Morag (Senior Manager) and Gemma (Director) are Performance Auditors with Audit Scotland.

In this episode we discuss how they are using data in their audits, their experience in developing Audit Scotland's data capabilities, collaboration with other audit offices and what the future roadmap looks like. 

We also discuss their focus on ensuring their reports meet their audience’s needs, and how data visualisations and charts are being used to communicate key messages.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

13 Dec 202031. Wrapping 2020 Up - learnings, listener feedback, what's coming in 202100:13:31

In this episode we wrap up, talking about:

  • a few things we've learned this year
  • feedback - what people found valuable
  • feedback - what people want to hear more about
  • some of the tech/software used to produce this podcast


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

03 Jan 202132. Data visualization with Alli Torban00:35:25

Note: This is a guest interview.


Alli is an information design consultant and host of the Data Viz Today podcast.
We talk about a range of data visualization matters, including 3 key mistakes that people make when starting out in dataviz (and solutions to those). 

You can reach out to Alli via her website (www.allitorban.com).


Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

17 Jan 202134. Taka Ariga, GAO's Chief Data Scientist & Innovation Lab Director00:35:58

Taka is the inaugural Chief Data Scientist at the US Government Accountability Office.  
He also leads the GAO's Innovation Lab.  We discuss:

  • What the GAO does
  • How data science is helping GAO
  • Innovation and experimentation at GAO
  • Machine learning assurance

You can reach out to Taka via the GAO website.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

31 Jan 202135. Stephen McAteer, Performance Audit Data Scientist at VAGO00:33:07

Stephen leads the data science team within Performance Audit at VAGO, the Victorian Auditor General's Office.  We discuss:

  • What VAGO does
  • Stephen's approach to helping auditors use data
  • Why it's important for all performance auditors to have data skills
  • How VAGO has used open data to improve transparency

You can reach out to Stephen via LinkedIn (www.linkedin.com/in/smcateer).


Links


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

10 Jan 202133. Ten common areas to focus on when using data for audits00:14:59

In this episode, we discuss 10 of the more common areas of focus in using data for audits.

  1. Get over the fear of using data
  2. Focus on the objective and develop the hypotheses
  3. Check for previous work, to avoid duplication
  4. Source the data – internal and open
  5. Prepare the data and check quality
  6. Perform the analysis, prove/disprove the hypotheses
  7. Conduct QA and business validation
  8. Report and visualize
  9. Share for potential reuse (audit team, management, other agencies)
  10. Lessons learnt: governance, quality of data, timing, process, etc.


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

14 Feb 202136. Why the audit objective should drive our use of data00:20:21

In this episode, we discuss why it is important to focus on our audit objective when using data analysis in our audit.

We explore:

  1. Why a focus on the objective helps us measure success
  2. Why we should avoid rules based analysis
  3. How a focus on the objective helps us stay true to our audit mandate
  4. Cost benefit analysis when we find things that are not related to the audit
  5. Why a focus on the objective helps us in reporting on data quality or missing data

This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

14 Mar 202138. Why We Should Spend Time Preparing Our Data and Checking Quality00:13:00

In this episode, we discuss FIVE major benefits of investing our time in preparing our data and checking its quality.

These include, in reverse order of importance:

1. Exploration during data prep to understand the data

2. Ensure the data is in the right format for analysis

3. Save time by avoiding incorrect conclusions

4. Confidence in the analysis and result

5. Identify important data related improvement opportunities


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Mar 202139. Four Quality Assurance Steps - Data in Audit00:10:35

In using data for audits, quality assurance of our work is important.

In this episode, we discuss: 

1.  The four main QA steps

  • Technical QA 
  • Functional QA 
  • Business QA (validation) 
  • Audit QA 

2. Why we need a QA Plan

This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

12 Apr 202140. A CIO/CRO perspective on risk, security and internal audit with Ari Levien00:25:54

Ari Levien is an experienced Chief Information Officer who has also played the role of Chief Risk Officer.

In this episode we discuss how a CIO (with an understanding of risk) thinks about security and risk.  We also discuss his views of Internal Audit and what good looks like for IA.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

25 Apr 202141. Steve Rummel, Senior IA Analytics Manager at CVS Health00:34:35

Steve Rummel is a Senior Internal Audit Analytics Manager at CVS Health.

In this episode, Steve explains how he helps his audit team use data.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

09 May 202142. Michael DeCero, a Data Professional at TDS with an Internal Audit background00:25:58

Michael DeCero is an Internal Audit Analytics Manager at TDS, a telecommunications company. 

In this episode, Michael explains how he helps his audit team use data. 

 Links:  


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

23 May 202143. Microsoft 365 Compliance with Erica Toelle00:24:59

Erica Toelle is a senior product marketing manager on the Microsoft compliance product team, with focus on information governance and records management.

Erica is a long-time member of the SharePoint and Microsoft 365 community, a former Microsoft MVP, a published author, and a recognized expert in the information governance area.   

In this episode, we discuss Erica's book - Microsoft 365 Compliance: A Practical Guide to Managing Risk.


Links:  


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

06 Jun 202144. ESG and Sustainable Investing with Tiina Landau00:28:36

Tiina Landau is an internationally recognized sustainability expert and Certified European Financial Analyst (CEFA). She currently works as Sustainability Manager at Neste Corporation, embedding sustainability considerations into new business models and supply chains.

She has extensive experience as a speaker in media and seminars and also writes a column in the Finnish financial newspaper Kauppalehti.

In this episode, we discuss Tiina's book: Sustainable Investing - Beating the Market with ESG.  We also explore how internal auditors can help their organizations navigate ESG risks and opportunities.

Links:  


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

20 Jun 202145. How ANAO uses data in performance audits - with Xiaoyan Lu and Christine Chalmers00:19:34

Christine (performance audit) and Xiaoyan (data analytics) are Directors with ANAO, the Australian National Audit Office.

In this episode we discuss:

  • What The Australian National Audit Office (www.anao.gov.au) does
  • The five ways ANAO uses data in its performance audits
  • How performance audit teams work with the central data team
  • Challenges with data preparation
  • The benefits of a strong focus on data quality



About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

18 Jul 202146. Combining data to create risk indicators for audits and risk monitoring/exploration00:14:52

In this episode we discuss the use of risk/performance indicators.

These can be used by audit teams, risk teams and integrity agencies.

For audit teams, they are useful throughout the audit lifecycle - planning / risk assessment, fieldwork / conduct and reporting.

We explore why they are useful, what to do and briefly how to get started.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

01 Aug 202147. Three practical ways to fast-track the data cleansing process00:09:41

In this episode we discuss three simple ways to improve the data cleansing process - easier, faster and higher quality.

  1. Find the optimal data source (e.g., don't use a poorly structured dataset)
  2. Cleanse iteratively - you may not need all of the fields/columns
  3. Import iteratively - start with a subset of the data and build on that as needed


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

18 Aug 202148. Performance Audit Mini-Series #1 Forward Work Planning00:17:59

This is the first of a series of episodes that focus on performance auditing.

In this episode, we discuss strategic audit planning (a.k.a. forward work planning).

For internal auditors, this is similar to annual (or equivalent) audit planning.

  1. Understanding your community / public expectations
  2. Understanding your elected body / parliamentarians
  3. Understanding the entities within your audit office's jurisdiction


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

07 Sep 202149. Performance Audit Mini-Series #2 Work Program Balance00:15:55

This is the second of a series of episodes that focus on performance auditing.

In this episode, we discuss the importance of balance in your work program - covering each of the four objectives:

  1. Effectiveness
  2. Efficiency
  3. Economy
  4. Compliance


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

28 Sep 202150. Performance Audit Mini-Series #3 Planning with data00:17:58

This is the third in a series of episodes that focus on performance auditing.

In this episode, we discuss the benefits of adopting a data focused approach during audit planning.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

16 Nov 202152. Simplicity00:16:28

In this episode we discuss why and how audit quality is improved when we keep things simple.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

14 Oct 202151. Performance Audit Mini-Series #4: Conduct/Fieldwork00:13:34

This is the fourth in a series of episodes that focus on performance auditing.

In this episode, we discuss five suggestions to help improve the conduct (fieldwork / execution) phase.


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

12 Dec 202153. The Data-Confident Internal Auditor00:23:49

This episode is a pre-recorded interview with Benji Block for the Author Hour podcast. We discuss our new book, The Data-Confident Internal Auditor.

For internal auditors, developing trends in data analysis and data science can feel less like a wealth of information and more like an avalanche. Still, better use of data provides an opportunity to advance your career by adopting new invaluable skills. 

The missing link: jargon-free guidance that cuts through the hype. The Data-Confident Internal Auditor demystifies the use of data in internal audits through practical step-by-step guidance. With concepts and tools that are easy to understand and apply, this comprehensive guide shows you how to approach data yourself without having to wait on a data scientist or a technical expert.

Developed over the course of hundreds of actual audits, these real-world approaches and practices are distilled into a simple sequence of steps that will leave you feeling confident and even eager to apply them for yourself.


Links:  


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

24 Jan 202254. Analysis00:19:17

In this episode we discuss the use of the word "analysis" in the context of using data for audits.
This is an attempt to define the "analysis phase" - or stop using it as the name of a phase - so that we can better structure our work.


This is explored in more depth in our book, here: https://riskinsights.com.au/the-data-confident-internal-auditor


About this podcast
The podcast for performance auditors and internal auditors that use (or want to use) data.
Hosted by Conor McGarrity and Yusuf Moolla.
Produced by Risk Insights (riskinsights.com.au).

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