Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! (Assessment, Feedback, Grading, and Learning) (Tom Schimmer)
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| 23 Sep 2024 | EP2: Quieting the Grading Noise | 00:44:49 | |
In this episode of Assess THAT, Tom and Nat discuss how educators can quiet the grading noise. Whether it be the traditional graders on one side or the undgraders on the other, many educators can find themselves feeling uncertain about how to respond.
While the extreme positions often take center stage, especially online, it is the balanced positions that are more thoughtful, grounded, and helpful for those trying to navigate grading reform.
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| 09 Sep 2024 | EP1: Five Reasons we're still "doing" Assessment | 00:33:30 | |
In this first episode of Assess THAT, Tom & Nat discuss the five reasons assessment must still be an essential part of every educator's professional learning plan.
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| 08 Jul 2024 | [TSP Classic] Zaretta Hammond (June 2022) | 00:49:38 | |
JUNE 2022: Tom was joined by author Zaretta Hammond to discuss her 2015 book, "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain."
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| 22 Nov 2021 | What‘s Happened to Us? | Brian Butler | Common Assessments | 01:09:12 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:50), Tom opens this week by questioning why we've collectively become so brazen and disrespectful towards others. Then, Tom is joined by friend and colleague Brian Butler (16:03) for a conversation about why gifted education should be the floor for all learners if we are to achieve true equity in our schools. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:00:35), Tom talks about common assessments not just as an efficient way to increase student achievement, but an effective way to create an authentic collaborative culture amongst educators.
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| 07 Nov 2022 | Relationship with Research | Laura Rizo | Standardized Test Engagement | 01:03:18 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:50), Tom opens by asking listeners to reflect on their relationship with educational research. Then, Tom is joined by teen coach and staff developer Laura Rizo (10:55) for a conversation about student relationships, SEL, & family engagement. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:23), Tom answers a listener's question about how to increase student engagement in standardized testing.
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| 24 Jan 2022 | Why Not You? | Heather Lyon | Instructional Efficiency | 01:06:18 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:50), Tom opens this week with a simple question that can shift your mindset away from self-doubt. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author, Heather Lyon (13:15) for a conversation about student engagement. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:30), Tom revisits an important residual effect of formative assessment and that is becoming more instructional efficient.
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| 22 Mar 2021 | Relentless Outrage | Matt Townsley | Leading Change in Assessment (2) | 01:32:30 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:24), Tom takes aim at the relentlessly outraged and details why we are all at risk of losing all perspective, resiliency, individuality, & common-sense. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Matt Townsley (15:30) to discuss the implementation of standards-based grading at the Secondary level. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:11:40), Tom (continuing from last week's episode) uses Dr. John Kotter's research to explore the important phases necessary to transform the assessment & grading culture of a school.
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| 24 May 2021 | Lessons from Songland | Mandy Stalets | Enough Evidence? | 01:22:59 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:56), Tom explores the lessons about creativity he learned from the television show, Songland. Then, Tom is joined by Mandy Stalets (15:20) to discuss teaching during the pandemic, math instruction & assessment, as well as her forthcoming book. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:04:48), Tom focuses on a critical end-of-year question that so many teachers face and how to refocus ourselves on what truly matters; do I have enough evidence of learning?
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| 15 Nov 2021 | Milestones | Garnet Hillman | Engineering Conversations | 01:01:09 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:41), Tom opens this week with some thoughts about reaching milestones as the podcast hits its 50th episode. Then, Tom is joined by friend, colleague, and co-author Garnet Hillman (12:30) for a conversation about assessment and grading. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:36), Tom focuses on engineering classroom conversations as a way to elicit formative assessment evidence.
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| 05 Dec 2022 | Celebrate Your Wins | Kristine Tesoriero Mizzone | Culturally Responsive Assessment | 01:09:30 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:44), Tom reminds listeners to celebrate their wins, no matter how small, medium, or large. Then, Tom is joined by education consultant Kristine Tesoriero Mizzone (8:40) to discuss the most important aspects of institutional coaching. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:12), Tom highlights some big ideas from an article he recently wrote about eliminating implicit bias in assessment. Specifically, he talks about using cultural archetypes to create a more culturally responsive and expansive approach to assessment.
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| 02 Sep 2024 | TRAILER - Introducing Assess THAT with Tom & Nat (Assessment, Grading, | 00:06:30 | |
Introducing Assess THAT with Tom & Nat! Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso will be your go-to podcast for everything assessment. From formative assessment to feedback to grading, Tom and Natalie will share their expertise and experience to help you grow your assessment literacy to bring about a transformation within your classroom, your school, or even your district.
Beginning on September 9, Tom and Natalie will bring you bi-weekly episodes that drill down to what the research says, what it doesn't say, and how to put theory into practice.
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| 03 Nov 2022 | BONUS: Teach Better ’22 (Part 1) | 00:46:08 | |
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| 07 Aug 2023 | Spot Upfront | Cale Birk | Know Your Purpose | 00:53:27 | |
In the Mindset Minute (2:13), Tom shares a mantra that he's used to create a mindset that everything always works out for him. Then (6:06) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and friend Cale Birk to talk about why leaders need to plan for impact, not just change. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:01), Tom reminds listeners about the importance of knowing your assessment purpose in advance of any assessment.
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| 14 Mar 2022 | Relationship with Research | Ken Williams | Unnecessary Overkill | 01:11:11 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:35), Tom opens by sharing an observation about our convenient relationship with research. Then, Tom is joined by Ken Williams (14:32) to discuss his forthcoming book "Ruthless Equity." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:03:21), Tom discusses what he believes is an unnecessary overkill when it comes to assessment methods. .
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| 08 Nov 2021 | Machinery of Achievement | Pav Wander | Acceptable Alternatives | 01:10:48 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:48), Tom opens this week with a reminder that educators have more influence and control over the machinery of student achievement than some might think. Then, Tom is joined by teacher and podcast co-host Pav Wander (17:43) for a conversation about teacher-voice. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:00:30), Tom focuses on the importance of acceptable alternatives in assessment and grading reform.
12for12 Challenge (50th Episode) (1) Post a picture on Twitter, Instagram (NOT IG story b/c those disappear), or Facebook OR a video on TikTok (yes, the podcast is on TikTok) of what you typically do while listening to the podcast. E.g., Twitter - Something like Hey @TomSchimmerPod, I love listening to the podcast while on my commute to/from work every day OR Hey, @TomSchimmerPod, I love listening to the podcast while I work out or whatever. You have to tag the podcast - Podcast handles. I’ll check you are following the podcast too; that’s a must.
(2) Then, you have to get at least 12 people in the next 2 weeks to subscribe to the podcast and post about it. 12 hours of coaching – 12 people. It might sound something like this: I just subscribed to the @TomSchimmerPod. Thanks (tag you - @mybestfriend) for the recommendation! They don’t have to post a pic but that would certainly be cool if they did.
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| 13 Feb 2023 | Impact Update | Rob Dunlop | Overrater Explains | 01:03:25 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:31), Tom provides an "impact" update, an update on how his #OneWord challenge is going so far. Then (9:20) Tom is joined by author Rob Dunlop to discuss his latest book, "Strive for Happiness in Education." Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:38), Tom provides a mantra to follow when there is a discrepancy between the student's self-assessment and the teacher's assessment.
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| 10 Oct 2022 | Must Be Measurable | John Hattie | The Good Ol’ Test | 01:04:46 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom shares his thoughts on how anything schools want to count in the court of public opinion must be measurable. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:25) for part two of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:38), Tom discusses the good ol’ test, and how it can still fit within a balanced approach to assessment.
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| 07 Feb 2022 | Generation Wrong? | Defining Success | Emotional Side of Assessment | 00:51:13 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:51), Tom opens with a question about why society defers to the younger generations to set societal norms and whether they ever get it wrong. Then, the podcast circles back (17:01) to previous guests and how they each defined success. Finally, in Assessment Corner (37:13), Tom begins a three-part exploration or think aloud about trauma-informed assessment practices; part one this week focuses is on the emotional side of assessment.
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| 25 Apr 2022 | Another Happiness Killer | Mirko Chardin | Leveled Responses | 00:58:00 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:45), Tom highlights another sure-fired "happiness killer." Then, Tom is joined by author Mirko Chardin (12:19) to discuss his latest book, "Equity by Design: Delivering on the Power and Promise of UDL." Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:54), Tom talks briefly about the difference between leveled questions and leveled responses and why each can have a place in our assessment systems, but each needs to be kept in its place .
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| 11 Apr 2022 | Must Be Nice | Tony Reibel | Get Them Talking | 01:02:56 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:34), Tom opens by sharing why "must be nice" is the most condescending phrase anyone can use. Then, Tom is joined by author and colleague Tony Reibel (11:11) to discuss his latest book, "Small Changes, Big Impact: 10 Strategies to Promote Student Efficacy and Lifelong Learning." Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:19), Tom talks about the single most underutilized formative assessment strategy and that is to get students talking about their learning. .
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| 19 Apr 2021 | Father Phil | LaVonna Roth | Homework (2) | 01:28:22 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:01), Tom tells the story of Father Phil and why he was responsible for Tom choosing education as a career. Then, Tom is joined by LaVonna Roth (16:26), Founder and Lead Presenter at IGNITE your S.H.I.N.E.™ for a discussion about student strengths, SEL, and neuroscience. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:08:36), Tom, in part 2, explores homework and suggests six important questions every teacher should ask about their homework routines.
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| 13 Dec 2021 | Here We Go Again | George Sugai (Pt. 2) | Your Assessment Journey | 01:17:24 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:52), Tom opens with a recent experience that reminded him that even the smallest connections can make the biggest difference. Then, Tom is joined by George Sugai (12:24) in part two of their conversation about PBIS; they specifically talk about positive reinforcement & the critical role of Tier 2 interventions. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:08:11), Tom focuses on every educator's assessment journey and the one piece of advice that matters the most!
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| 12 Dec 2022 | No Holiday Trophy | Top 5 Holiday Movies | Empowerment Ecosystem | 00:42:33 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:32), Tom reminds listeners that there is no trophy at the end of the holidays and that it is important to find time for ourselves and rest. Then (6:40) Tom, highlights his Top 5 Holiday Movies of all time. Finally, in Assessment Corner (20:02), Tom is joined by Natalie Vardabasso and Colleen Dawson to highlight the "Empowerment Ecosystem," a program Natalie created to create a support community for those change agents leading assessment and grading reform in their schools or districts.
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| 26 Apr 2021 | False Dichotomies | Catlin Tucker | More than Verbs | 01:21:27 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:06), Tom addresses the current obsession with false dichotomies and asserts that one in education has to stop. Then, Tom is joined by Catlin Tucker (17:05), author, speaker, leader, and expert in Blended Learning to discuss the ways teachers can efficiently and effectively implement a variety of models. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:05:45), Tom highlights why examining standards is more than just identifying the verb; that the depth of thinking must also be considered if assessment tasks are going to rise to the promise of the standards.
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| 14 Nov 2022 | Two Choices | Eric Saibel | Rethinking Group Grades | 01:08:08 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by addressing the widespread lack of student engagement and suggesting there are only two choices educators have in response. Then, Tom is joined by Eric Saibel (11:22), who is a co-founder of "Global School Play Day, for a conversation about the importance of unstructured play for children and teens. Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:11), Tom highlights why he is rethinking his long-held stance against group grades.
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| 21 Mar 2022 | Beware of the Curious | Rosa Perez-Isiah | Assessment Mantra | 01:02:57 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:55), Tom opens with a warning to beware of the "just curious." Then, Tom is joined by Rosa Perez-Isiah (9:25) to discuss what it means to create a school culture of equity and access. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:24), Tom highlights an assessment mantra that brings assessment into balance in any classroom. .
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| 04 Apr 2022 | Passions or Strengths | Chey Cheney | Concise Answers | 01:09:41 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:10), Tom opens by wondering whether "follow your passion" is sound advice for our students. Then, Tom is joined by teacher and podcast host Chey Cheney (10:23) to discuss an array of educational topics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:00:47), Tom talks about a very important concept in leading a transformation of your assessment and grading practices and, at the same time, tells you about a new book that he has coming out. .
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| 15 Jan 2024 | Elevate Your Moments | Ashley Aoki | Assessment Pressure | 01:08:42 | |
In the Mindset Moment (2:44), Tom talks about why it is essential to elevate your moments. Elevating the little things will make your life feel elevated. Then (8:00) Tom is joined by teacher and former student Ashley Aoki to discuss "Spirals of Inquiry." Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:34), Tom discusses what we need to examine and do when students feel a disproportionate amount of pressure when being assessed.
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| 15 Jul 2024 | [TSP Classic] Yvette Jackson (May 2021) | 01:18:48 | |
MAY 2021: Tom was joined by Dr. Yvette Jackson, author of Pedagogy of Confidence, to discuss the equity issue surrounding Special Education and Gifted programs.
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| 01 Aug 2022 | We Must Listen | Nathan Wear | Gradeless vs Grade Less | 01:21:57 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:36), Tom expresses his concern that if we can't listen to one another and empathize without agreeing, then the divides in our society will further deepen. Then, Tom is joined by Nathan Wear (14:02) to discuss his book, "Making Grades Matter: Standards-Based Grading in a Secondary PLC at Work." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (52:13), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about whether it's "Gradeless" or "Grade Less."
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| 19 Jul 2021 | Summer Series: Standards-Based Grading | 01:27:22 | |
The 2021 Summer Series continues with a roundtable discussion on Standards-Based Grading. Joining Tom for this discussion are Elaine Klauer, Megan Knight, & Katelynn Giordano
Elaine Klauer is the Director of Academics and Instructional Programs at San Benito High School in Hollister, CA. She works closely with secondary teachers on teaching, learning, grading, and assessment; specifically on embracing a standards-based mindset. Elaine has led the district initiative on grading practices for the past 4 years, which will result in full implementation by all teachers by the 2022-23 school year.
Dr. Megan Knight is an adjunct instructor at Upper Iowa University and an instructional coach at North Scott Schools in Eldridge, Iowa. Megan has taught secondary special education and English, as well as undergraduate and graduate-level education courses. Megan received three distinguished research awards from the Iowa Educational Research & Evaluation Association for her work in the area of standards-based grading, and her publications have appeared in the NASSP Bulletin, ASCD Express, and the Journal of Educational Leadership in Action. In the classroom, Megan continually refines her assessment and grading practices to make them more accurate and supportive of learning, and she enjoys helping others do the same.
Katelynn Giordano is a Middle-Level Language Arts Educator and Director of Curriculum & Instruction for the Teach Better Team. Katelynn is a dynamic educator who is passionate about student voice and empowerment, promoting equity, and valuing teachers as professionals. Katelynn has presented at various state and national conferences on assessment & grading practices, language arts instruction, social-emotional learning, and equitable teaching practices. She has contributed chapters to innovative books on educational practice, including The New Teacher’s Guide to Overcoming Common Challenges and 100 No-Nonsense Things that ALL Teachers Should STOP Doing.
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| 18 Jul 2022 | Friends like Family | Gholdy Muhammad | Assessing Competencies | 01:05:45 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:16), Tom reflects after a camping trip about his core group of friends who are more like family. Then, Tom is joined by Gholdy Muhammad (11:51) to discuss her book, "Cultivating Genius, an Equity Framework for Culturally and Historically Responsive Literacy." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (46:40), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about how to assess 21st-century competencies.
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| 14 Jun 2021 | Summer Series: Universal Design for Learning | 00:58:10 | |
The 2021 Summer Series opens with a roundtable discussion on Universal Design for Learning. Joining Tom for this discussion are Fatima Sammy, Jackie Duncan, & Alisha Poling.
Fatima Sammy (M.Ed, MPH) is the 8th-grade science teacher and teacher leader at the Putnam Avenue Upper School in Cambridge, MA. Her teaching focuses on instructional practices and routines that enable students to develop into independent learners. She leads a Professional Learning Community (PLC) that fosters collaboration, values student's voice, and places an emphasis on the importance of learner visibility in the classroom. Fatima also serves as an education consultant for the Diversity, Education and Outreach Office of the Broad Institute of MIT and Harvard.
Jackie Duncan (M.A.) is the UDL district coordinator, is a high school English teacher within Shelby City Schools in Shelby, OH. Jackie has a non-traditional path into education that started with a tour in the United States Marine Corps, law enforcement, and a few other endeavors before she finally set her sights on earning her teaching degree. She has been teaching for the better part of the past decade and was introduced to UDL practices fairly early on in her practice. UDL’s focus on breaking traditional norms within education and creating multiple pathways to learning was the perfect pairing to her own philosophy of education. She has recently completed her graduate certificate from the University of Pennsylvania Literacy Network in UDL.
Alisha Poling (B.S., M.Ed., M.A.S.E) is a Special Education Teacher and 504 Monitor at Mark Twain Elementary in Kirkland, WA. Alisha has taught in both self-contained and resource room programs and was introduced to UDL by education consultant, Dr. Cassie Martin who is affiliated with the University of WA Haring Center. Prior to teaching in WA, she taught art for 5 years and special education for 1 year in TN. She has worked in several districts and schools and believes that leadership is the key to making systemic changes in education. However, she believes that teachers who are trained in UDL can make THE difference in kids’ lives when the paradigm shift occurs. Currently, the school that Alisha works at (Mark Twain Elementary) is collaborating with the University of WA Haring Center and the TIES center as a model school for inclusionary practices.
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| 17 Oct 2022 | Complainers | Joe Feldman | Rubrics 101 | 01:24:57 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:29), Tom complains about complainers who have turned complaining into a personality trait driven by ego. Then, Tom is joined by Joe Feldman (12:38) for a conversation about his book, "Grading for Equity." Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:01:35), Tom reviews some important aspects needed to develop high-quality rubrics.
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| 13 Sep 2021 | Are We Too Serious? | Greg Wolcott | Willing & Able | 00:53:07 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:58), Tom wonders if we (as a society) have become too serious and makes the distinction between taking things seriously and taking ourselves too seriously. Then, Tom is joined by Greg Wolcott (10:54), author of SIGNIFICANT 72: UNLEASHING THE POWER OF RELATIONSHIPS IN TODAY’S SCHOOLS to discuss the critical role student-teacher relationships play in both the academic and social success of students. Finally, in Assessment Corner (43:11), Tom focuses on assessment and grading reform and breaks it down in terms of the specific mindset or approaches when colleagues are along the continuums of "willing" & "able" to manifest the change both individually and collectively.
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| 22 May 2023 | Reset on Failure | Dylan Wiliam (Pt. 2) | Fake Grading War | 01:10:32 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:31), Tom opens with an assertion that it's time for a collective societal reset on what it means to fail. Then (12:24) Tom is once again joined by Dylan Wiliam for part 2 of a conversation about classroom assessment. Finally, in Assessment Corner (59:04), Tom provides some commentary on the Fake Grading War created by by Arizona Superintendent of Public Instruction, Tom Horne.
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| 10 Jan 2022 | Impact | Andrew Maxey | Overcorrection | 01:11:22 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:17), Tom opens this week by sharing his #OneWord for 2022. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author Andrew Maxey (11:52) for a conversation centered on his newly released book, "Elephant in the Classroom: Tracing the Complexity of Teaching by Exploring 13 Competencies and Practices." Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:47), Tom addresses what he sees as an overcorrection in the field with our assessment practices and why trading one restriction for another is counterproductive.
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| 09 Oct 2023 | Why Not Me? | Jon Orr | Implementation Errors | 00:56:29 | |
In the Mindset Minute (1:58), Tom shares the mantra "Why not me?" as one way of trying to combat imposter syndrome. Then (5:50) Tom is joined by Math expert and podcast host Jon Orr to discuss the state of the Math Wars and all things mathematics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:35), Tom discusses why it's important for us to distinguish between the non-negotiables of change and implementation errors.
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| 24 Oct 2022 | Dear Society | Dawn Harris | Reassessing ’Big Rocks’ | 01:06:39 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:22), Tom opens with a Letter to Society regarding why so many teachers are leaving the profession. Then, Tom is joined by education author & teacher Dawn Harris (16:43) for a conversation about her book, "Plan like a PIRATE." Finally, in Assessment Corner (54:52), Tom answers a listener's question about reassessment.
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| 25 Oct 2021 | Risk is Reward | Doug Reeves (Pt. 1) | Targeted Feedback | 00:56:07 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:16), Tom opens with an assertion that risk-taking itself can and should be the reward (as opposed to playing the results and deciding in retrospect). Then, Tom is joined by Doug Reeves (12:47) in part one of their two-part conversation; this week centers on how creativity and innovation can become more of a driving force in a 21st century, K-12 education. Finally, in Assessment Corner (39:53), Tom highlights a handbook chapter by Gordon Stobart that focuses on why it’s critical to tailor our feedback to where learners are along their learning continuums.
The Cambridge Handbook of Instructional Feedback
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| 27 Mar 2023 | Thank you! | Ron Ritchhart | Idea Cults in Assessment | 01:07:26 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:19), Tom celebrates episode 100 with a thank you to listeners. Then (7:50) Tom is joined by researcher and author Dr. Ron Ritchhart to discuss how we develop cultures of thinking in our classrooms. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:06), Tom cautions listeners against idea cults that can emerge in discussions about assessment and grading that lack nuance and context.
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| 04 Jul 2022 | Tales from MTL | Tyrone McNeil | Assessment Analogies | 01:23:25 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:53), Tom recounts his trip to Montreal with his son to see their first-ever Formula 1 race. Then, Tom is joined by FNESC President Tyrone McNeil (19:46) to discuss the state of indigenous education. Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (1:04:56), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about some effective analogies that help clarify some complex assessment topics.
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| 13 Mar 2023 | ChatGPT in Education | Jessica Vance | ChatGPT & Assessment | 00:51:02 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:17), Tom discusses the pros & cons of ChatGPT in K-12 education. Then (8:23) Tom is joined by author Jessica Vance to discuss her book, "Leading with a Lens of Inquiry." Finally, in Assessment Corner (43:16), Tom highlights ten ways ChatGPT can be used for classroom assessment.
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| 29 Dec 2022 | BONUS: Teach Better ’22 (Part 2) | 00:50:33 | |
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| 21 Nov 2022 | Get What You Give | Genein Letford | Personalized Exams | 00:53:43 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:30), Tom opens with a reminder that when it comes to professional learning, you get out of it what you put into it. Then, Tom is joined by Genein Letford (9:01), to discuss her book, Seven Gems of Intercultural Creativity. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:44), Tom shares an idea on how to personalize final exams.
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| 28 Nov 2022 | Now is the Time | Kyle Pearce | Procedure for Inferences | 01:05:26 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:34), Tom opens by asserting that NOW is the time to take the first step to accomplish any personal and/or professional goals you have for yourself. Then, Tom is joined by math teacher and podcaster Kyle Pearce (6:37), to discuss the elements of effective math instruction. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:12), Tom shares a view of assessment as a procedure for drawing inferences.
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| 10 Apr 2023 | Less is More | Eric Sheninger | Redefining Student Accountability | 00:57:39 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by reminding listeners that when it comes to making an argument in favour of something, or when you are trying to convince others to change to a more favourable practice, less is more! Then (9:47) Tom is joined by author Eric Sheninger to discuss his 2021 book, "Disruptive Thinking: Preparing Learners for Their Future." Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:11), Tom, in part 1 of 2, shares details about his latest book, "Redefining Student Accountability: A Proactive Approach to Teaching Behavior Outside the Gradebook."
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| 17 Jan 2022 | Enough with the Fluff | Monica Burns | Would You Accept It? | 01:05:08 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:52), Tom opens this week with a rant about how he's had enough with the educational fluff that seems to be more prominent than ever. Then, Tom is joined by educator, author, and EdTech expert Dr. Monica Burns (12:10) for a conversation about how to effectively and efficiently infuse technology into our classroom practices. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:48), Tom highlights one simple question you can use to audit your assessment practices and know whether or not it’s something you should continue to utilize.
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| 12 Sep 2022 | Answer the Question | Joe Sanfelippo | Jackpot! | 01:03:18 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:41), Tom shares his thoughts on why it is so important to answer people's questions, especially in online forums, and why performative pontifications are the highest form of disrespect. Then, Tom is joined by Joe Sanfelippo (8:35) to discuss effective school and district leadership. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:28), Tom talks about why student investment is the ultimate Jackpot regarding our assessment literacy.
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| 18 Apr 2022 | Ego of AP | Morgane Michael | Mastery for Targets | 01:04:52 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:25), Tom takes aim at any adult associated with AP courses, including parents, by highlighting why adult ego is driving students to overload their academic schedules with AP courses thereby creating an unsustainable and unhealthy school experience. Then, Tom is joined by author and friend Morgane Michael (15:50) to discuss her latest book, "From Burnt Out to fired Up: Reigniting your Passion for Teaching!" Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:16), Tom talks about why scaling or rating learning targets is instructionally unnecessary and can actually serve as a distraction to what matters most. .
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| 29 Aug 2022 | Spoiler Rules | Lindsay Titus | Sustaining Change | 01:17:30 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:21), Tom outlines what he believes the societal rules surrounding "no spoilers" should be. Then, Tom is joined by Lindsay Titus (11:19) to discuss how educators can maintain some semblance of balance through the inevitable stress that comes with any school year. Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (51:46), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about how to sustain change efforts in assessment & grading.
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| 28 Mar 2022 | Virtue Signalling is Good | Jimmy Casas | Confirm What You Suspect | 01:09:30 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:00), Tom opens with an assertion that on the net, virtue signalling is good. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and leader Jimmy Casas (12:12) to discuss his book "Culturize" and to put the principles into practice. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:24), Tom answers the question of how many questions should teachers use on a summative assessment. .
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| 24 Jul 2023 | Biology of Belief | Nikta Afonso | Time to Pushback | 00:55:21 | |
In the Mindset Minute (2:36) Tom highlights the book, “The Biology of Belief” by Dr. Bruce Lipton. It is one of the most influential books in terms of Tom’s mindset and outlook on life. Then (8:36) Tom is joined by singer, songwriter, and former student Nikita Afonso to talk about her growing music career. Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:51), Tom asserts that it’s time to ask those who resist assessment and grading reform to substantiate their resistance with research, not just their opinion.
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| 27 Sep 2021 | Second Opinions | Cathy Vatterott | Peer Assessment | 01:05:00 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:54), Tom opens with an assertion that educators should seek "second opinions" about the degree to which students have met learning goals. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and expert Dr. Cathy Vatterott (15:23) for a discussion about homework and the larger issue of student stress and anxiety. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:59), Tom focuses on peer assessment and the many iterations and potential outcomes of this powerful, yet often under-utilized practice.
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| 17 Aug 2021 | Summer Series: Trauma-Informed Education | 01:04:38 | |
The 2021 Summer Series continues with a roundtable discussion on Trauma-Informed Education. Joining Tom for this discussion are Jill Reedy, Joshua Stamper, & John Eller.
Jill Reedy is currently Assistant Regional Superintendent for the Macon/Piatt Regional Office of Education #39 located in Decatur, IL (24 yrs in education). She is a former elementary and middle school teacher and principal, as well as a district-level curriculum director. Jill led the work of the TIP (Trauma-Informed Partnership) consisting of the Macon/Piatt Regional Office, the Education Coalition of Macon County (community organization), the IEA (Illinois Education Association teacher union), and SIU School of Medicine Department of Population Science and Policy (Dr. Sameer Vohra, Dr. Jeanne Koehler, Dr. Anne Scheer). Jill presents to administrators and teachers throughout Illinois with Dr. Nancy Brodbeck on “Implementing Trauma-Informed Practices in Schools” and “Creating a Culture of Care Through Mindful Leadership." She was recently invited to participate in the development of a new Children’s Mental Health Plan for Illinois with the ICMHP (Illinois Children’ Mental Health Partnership) and is currently working with the IL Governor’s R3 (Restore, Renew, Reinvest) grant to foster positive relationships between youth and law enforcement and build capacity within community leaders to implement restorative practices
Joshua Stamper is a middle school Assistant Principal for a North Texas School District, where he's had the amazing opportunity to serve at four campuses and in two school districts. Prior to Joshua's current position, he was a classroom art educator and athletic coach for 6 years working with students in grades 6-8. In addition to his administrative position, Joshua is a podcaster, author, leadership coach, education presenter, and Podcast Network Manager for the Teach Better Team.
John Eller has served in many roles in education. He has been an elementary and secondary school teacher, a principal at several schools, a National Distinguished Principal with the US Department of Education, a principal center director, and a college professor. John consults with schools and districts across the United States, Canada, and Australia and in South America, Europe, and Asia. John has authored or co-authored over a dozen books for Solution Tree and Corwin Press. His newest publication, Trauma-Sensitive Instruction, is designed to help teachers, leaders, and schools to work more effectively with trauma-impacted students.
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| 24 Apr 2023 | Can vs Should | Shaunak Roy | Redefining Student Accountability (2) | 00:52:55 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:45), Tom opens by contrasting the difference between what we can do and what we should do in education, especially with ChatGPT. Then (8:43) Tom is joined by Shaunak Roy, founder of Yellowdig, a community-driven active and experiential learning platform. Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:24), in part 2 of 2, Tom shares more details about his latest book, "Redefining Student Accountability: A Proactive Approach to Teaching Behavior Outside the Gradebook."
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| 09 May 2022 | Allowed an Opinion? | Robert Cobbs | What Are You Assessing? | 01:12:32 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:13), Tom discusses his concern over a new tactic that could become more divisive than helpful when debating societal issues. Then, Tom is joined by future author and educator Robert Cobbs (13:25) to discuss how he ended up in Puerto Rico and why he founded the non-profit Tech My School. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:03:10), Tom answers a listener question that has both a literacy and assessment side to it. .
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| 18 Oct 2021 | Fear of Regret | Tina Boogren | Method vs Format | 01:02:17 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:42), Tom opens with a personal story that illustrates how the fear of regret can be a driver of success in our lives. Then, Tom is joined by Tina Boogren (19:08) to discuss the importance of self-care for educators and why focusing on ourselves is not selfish, but necessary for us to be at our best for students. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:33), Tom talks briefly about whether teachers should intentionally use a variety of assessment methods?
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| 19 Sep 2022 | Reborn a Critic | Livia Chan | Synthesizing Standards | 01:09:04 | |
In Don't @ Me (5:29), Tom declares that in his next life, he wants to return as a critic. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and Teach Better Digital Coordinator Livia Chan (11:16) to discuss the importance of building strong relationships with our students. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:48), Tom talks about why synthesizing our standards is the only way to authentically cover and assess them.
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| 11 Dec 2023 | BONUS: Assessment, Change, & Mindset through Story (w/ Natalie Vardabasso) | 00:52:32 | |
In this bonus crossover episode, Tom is joined by co-author Natalie Vardabasso to discuss their upcoming book "Rehumanizing Assessment through Story." This led to further conversations about the power of stories:
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| 02 May 2022 | BeReal with Me | Mike Mattos | 3 Strikes in Grading Reform | 01:14:12 | |
In Don't @ Me (4:00), Tom discusses the new social media app BeReal which he says has a chance to create a more authentic online experience. Then, Tom is joined by author and speaker Mike Mattos (11:33) to discuss the RTI at Work framework. Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:40), Tom outlines 3 strikes in grading reform that he wants every school to avoid. .
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| 02 Aug 2021 | Summer Series: Women in Leadership | 01:31:14 | |
The 2021 Summer Series continues with a roundtable discussion on Women in Leadership. Joining Tom for this discussion are Zandra Jo Galván, Anisa Baker-Busby, & Brittany Rincón
Zandra Jo Galvan has been serving as Superintendent of the Greenfield Union School District since August 10, 2017. Zandra has worked in public education for the past 28 years. Prior to joining GUSD, she served as the Assistant Superintendent of Educational Services for Gonzales Unified School District where she coordinated all educational programs, the LCAP process and budgets, and managed all state and federal programs. She earned her Bachelor’s Degree in Liberal Studies and Teaching Credential from the California State University of Fresno in 1993, her Master of Arts Degree in Curriculum and Instruction from CSU Monterey Bay in 2002, and her Master of Arts Degree and Administrative Credential in Educational Leadership from San Jose State University in 2008. She will begin at the University of Southern California in August 2021. She has also successfully completed the Association of California School Administrators (ACSA) Superintendent Academy, served on the ACSA 2020 Superintendent Planning Committee, is a member of the National Superintendents Roundtable, is on the ACSA Region 10 Board of Directors, and is the president of California Association of Latino/a/x Superintendents and Administrators (CALSA). Superintendent Galvan is passionate about preparing students to be social-emotionally and academically prepared for college and career and ensures that every GUSD team member knows they are an ELITE team member dedicated to the arduous task of saving students from the cycle of poverty. She proudly is committed to “ALL Means ALL”: Fulfilling the Greenfield Guarantee for ALL students in the Greenfield Union School District.
Dr. Anisa Baker-Busby, EdD, is an elementary school principal at Lindsey Elementary School in middle Georgia. In 2020, Solution Tree named Lindsey Elementary a national model PLC school. With more than 18 years of experience in high-poverty schools as an elementary teacher and administrator, Dr. Baker-Busby enjoys helping teachers and leaders use assessments to improve learning outcomes. She works with educators to create collaborative teams focused on using assessment data to make real-time instructional decisions. As an elementary principal, Dr. Baker-Busby helped high-performing collaborative teams embrace the PLC at Work process by focusing on the three big ideas—collaboration, learning, and results. As a result, teams created common formative assessments and used the results to improve their practices and determine students who need additional time and support. Dr. Baker-Busby was named the 2008–2009 Teacher of the Year at Miller Elementary School in Georgia.
Dr. Brittany Rincón is a teacher, curriculum coordinator, and the host of The Teacher Leader Podcast. She helps teachers become leaders by finding their voice through podcasting and leadership mindset work. Brittany believes that every teacher is a teacher leader who has a story and a message worth sharing with the world. As a podcast coach, she helps teachers start, launch, and grow their podcasts through 1:1 coaching and her courses. She graduated from Rutgers University with a B.A. in Anthropology and from Johns Hopkins University with an M.A. in Educational Studies. She recently completed her Ed.D. at the University of Florida with a concentration in Curriculum, Teaching, and Teacher Education. She is always learning something new and eager to grow as a leader, educator, and person.
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| 29 Nov 2021 | If Not Ed | Hedreich Nichols | Myths of Summative Assessment | 01:18:56 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:11), Tom opens this week by talking about what career he would have chosen had he not gone into education. Then, Tom is joined by author and podcast host Hedreich Nichols (14:14) for a conversation about the anti-racism work and what it means to be a culturally responsive educator. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:02:55), Tom deconstructs six myths of summative assessment and what the research actually says about using assessment evidence to verify and report.
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| 31 Oct 2022 | Respectful Engagement | Dave Schmittou | AP Exam Format | 00:59:17 | |
In Don’t @ Me (1:50), Tom opens by contemplating the rules of "respectful" engagement when debating contentious issues. Then, Tom is joined by education author & speaker Dave Schmittou (8:55) for a conversation about his new book (co-authored with Katelyn Giordano) entitled, "Poking the Bear: A guide for engaging in the conversations that matter most." Finally, in Assessment Corner (54:52), Tom answers a listener's question about whether it is wise to purposefully utilize the AP Exam format in AP classroom assessment.
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| 20 Jun 2022 | What’s a Majority? | Zaretta Hammond | Non-Negotiables v Philosophy | 01:20:37 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:17), Tom questions whether or not society's assertion of "majority rule" is something we all really believe in. Then, Tom is joined by author Zaretta Hammond (14:04) to discuss her 2015 release, "Culturally Responsive Teaching and the Brain." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (1:03:29), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about what aspects of assessment and grading are non-negotiable, and which aspects allow for some philosophical choices.
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| 03 Oct 2022 | Quiet Quitting | John Hattie | Willful Distortion | 01:00:36 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:15), Tom shares his thoughts on the recent social media phenomenon called "Quiet Quitting." Then, Tom is joined by Dr. John Hattie (12:16) for part one of a conversation about the Visible Learning research. Finally, in Assessment Corner (51:11), Tom discusses why it might be time to push back against those who push back at the elimination of punitive grading practices.
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| 10 May 2021 | With Age Comes... | Yvette Jackson | Non-Verbal Cues | 01:38:10 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:18), Tom explores the societal contradiction that emerges when we finish the expression, "With Ages Comes Wisdom." Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Yvette Jackson (13:55), author of Pedagogy of Confidence to discuss the equity issue surrounding Special Education and Gifted programs. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:32:14), Tom discusses the formative role of non-verbal cues in making instructional decisions.
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| 04 Oct 2021 | Disproving the Theory | Phyllis Fagell | The Allure of Quick | 00:52:34 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:36), Tom opens with a rant about student accountability and how so many, on a daily basis, disprove the theories they assert. Then, Tom is joined by LCPC, psychotherapist, and author Phyllis Fagell (12:57) for a discussion about the teacher-family dynamic and the uniqueness of middle-level learners. Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:07), Tom addresses a particular mindset around assessment that seems to be fairly pervasive but is one we need to be cautious of.
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| 03 May 2021 | Teacher Appreciation | Natalie Vardabasso | Assessment Purpose | 01:15:11 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:58), Tom expresses his appreciation to all teachers who have, over the past 12-14 months, done heroic work in supporting learners through these unprecedented times. Then, Tom is joined by Natalie Vardabasso (12:57), Assessment Instructional Design Lead at Calgary Academy and host of the EduCrush Podcast. Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:35), Tom discusses the importance of knowing your assessment purpose and why it sets up everything else throughout the assessment cycle.
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| 11 Sep 2023 | Act Toward | Discipline as Noun | Judge Holistically | 00:27:10 | |
Mindset Minute (2:11) focuses on why we need to "act toward" what we want. Then (5:35), Tom describes how his view of school discipline evolved to one where "discipline" is something we help students become, not what we do to them. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:47), Tom suggests that when we assess for the summative purpose, we need to judge holistically.
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| 26 Sep 2022 | Can You Be Led? | Connie Hamilton | Fractured Relationship | 01:05:30 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:53), Tom opens by asking us all to consider whether we can set our egos aside and be open to being led. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author Connie Hamilton (9:33) to discuss her book, “Hacking Questions: 11 Answers that Create a Culture of Inquiry in your Classroom.” Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:38), Tom identifies the six most common ways the relationship between the formative and summative assessment paradigms gets fractured, making grading reform more difficult.
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| 21 Feb 2022 | Advocate Honestly | Tom Murray | Trauma-Informed Assessment (2) | 01:08:14 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:09), Tom calls on all educators to advocate their positions honestly, rather than resorting to creating caricatures on the other side of a debate. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Thomas Murrary (9:33) for a conversation about what means for students to be "future-ready." Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:05), Tom (in part 3 of 3) shares his thoughts on which assessment & grading practices are trauma-informed, as they serve to create an atmosphere of calm rather than fear. .
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| 28 Aug 2023 | Act as If | Relationships through Learning | Levels to % | 00:27:59 | |
Mindset Minute (2:23) focuses on the concept of "act as if" where we create present emotions that match how we want to feel when what we want manifests. Then (7:24), Tom asserts that building relationships with students comes through their learning, not before. Finally, in Assessment Corner (17:44), Tom answers a listener's question about converting proficiency levels to percentage-based grades.
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| 14 Feb 2022 | Leave Wordle Alone | Allison Dillard | Trauma-Informed Assessment | 01:01:43 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:25), Tom expresses his concern that we - educators and society as a whole - are on the verge of ruining "Wordle," the online viral trend of 2022 so far. Then, Tom is joined by adjunct professor and podcast host Allison Dillard (10:09) for a conversation about MAth instruction. Finally, in Assessment Corner (46:41), Tom (in part 2 of 3) shares his thoughts on why being trauma-informed with our assessment practices is needed. .
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| 25 Sep 2023 | Allow the Negative | Alex Kajitani | Assessment Dilemma | 00:58:55 | |
In the Mindset Minute (1:53), Tom shares his thoughts on why we must allow our negative thoughts to flow through us. Then (6:18) Tom is joined by author, speaker, and trapping Mathematician Alex Kajitani to discuss his latest book, "Owning It: Proven Strategies to Ace and Embrace Teaching. Finally, in Assessment Corner (47:20), Tom discusses a common assessment dilemma.
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| 14 Aug 2024 | [TSP Classic] John Hattie (October 2022) | 01:19:11 | |
OCTOBER 2022: Tom was joined by Dr. John Hattie for a conversation about his Visible Learning research.
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| 16 Jan 2023 | One Word Failure | Jan Chappuis | Anything but Arbitrary | 01:02:01 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:46), Tom discusses how his One Word for 2022 was an epic failure and how he's going to give itone more shot. Then (7:35) Tom is joined by mentor, author, and consultant Jan Chappuis to discuss the evolution of assessment for learning over the past 20 years. Finally, in Assessment Corner (52:52), Tom highlights why grades should be anything but arbitrary.
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| 31 May 2021 | Association isn't Causation | Ken O'Connor | Teaching to the Test | 01:21:41 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:34), Tom discusses a few highlights from the book, "Calling Bullshit" and how they remind him of some important principles in education. Then, Tom is joined by Ken O'Connor (16:00) to discuss his journey from Melbourne to Toronto, to talk assessment & grading (of course), and to learn about his illustrious Field Hockey umpiring career!. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:11:21), Tom focuses on the idea of teaching to the test and what we can do to try to mitigate the fact that sometimes people’s behavior changes when they know they are being tested.
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| 07 Mar 2022 | Do Something | Sascha Heckmann | Art of Corrections | 00:57:27 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:04), Tom opens by sharing a personal mantra he uses when the to-do list is piling up and the workload is relentless. Then, Tom is joined by Sascha Heckmann (10:25) who is the Assistant Superintendent for Innovation & Learning at the American School Foundation of Monterrey, Mexico. Finally, in Assessment Corner (45:38), Tom discusses the art of corrections and how we can provide feedback & guidance but still accurately assess students independently. .
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| 30 Jan 2023 | Cost of NOT Changing | Tim Stephenson | Next Generation Assessment | 01:05:56 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:56), Tom discusses why, when considering any change, it's important to consider the cost of NOT changing as well. Then (8:53) Tom is joined by science teacher and podcast host Tim Stephenson to discuss the essential characteristics of teaching science in the 21st century. Finally, in Assessment Corner (55:11), Tom highlights the key aspects of Next Generation Assessments.
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| 07 Jun 2023 | BONUS: New BC Reporting Order | 00:52:19 | |
In this bonus episode, Tom offers his perspective on the New Reporting Order in British Columbia set to be implemented in the 2023-24 school year. In PART 1, Tom highlights the backstory and development (and poor messaging) surrounding the implementation of the new curriculum when it was first developed several years ago. In PART 2 (15:15), Tom takes aim at the obsession some have with percentage-based grading and why it is an unreliable, inaccurate, and incomplete way of assessing. In PART 3 (35:04), Tom offers his critiques of the new reporting order, specifically at the assertion made in documents to families from the BC Ministry of Education that "Proficient is the goal for your child" and that "Extending is not the goal for all students in every area of learning."
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| 29 Mar 2021 | Happiness Killer | Defining Success | Transcripts | 01:00:26 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:16), Tom identifies the most efficient and effective happiness killer. Then (15:11) hear how the first 24 guests have answered the question, "What's your definition of success?" Finally, in Assessment Corner (37:02), Tom describes why conversations about a new vision for university transcripts need to be thought through in terms of plausibility for the end-users; that visions that have no real plausibility of execution are counter-productive to bringing about meaningful change.
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| 05 Jul 2021 | Summer Series: Social-Emotional Learning | 01:19:32 | |
The 2021 Summer Series continues with a roundtable discussion on Social-Emotional Learning. Joining Tom for this discussion are Tre' Gammage, Jessica Hannigan, & John Hannigan.
Tre' Gammage is a Dean of Students & SEL Consultant from South Carolina. Tre’ has always had a passion for helping others. With a vast background in speaking, podcasting, and consulting, Tre’ was once told “when you see someone living their dream, it makes you want to be a part of that dream” and he’s been living by that motto ever since. He is the author of "EVERY DECISION COUNTS: 8 LESSON'S I WISH THEY TAUGHT ME IN SCHOOL" and the host of The Dash Podcast.
Dr. Jessica Djabrayan Hannigan is an assistant professor in the Educational Leadership Department at California State University, Fresno. She works with schools and districts across the nation on designing and implementing effective behavior systems. Her expertise includes response-to-intervention (RTI) behavior, multi-tiered system of supports (MTSS), positive behavior interventions and supports (PBIS), social and emotional learning (SEL), and more.
Dr. John Hannigan is an executive leadership coach for Fresno County Superintendent of Schools in California. He has served in education for over 20 years as a principal, assistant principal, instructional coach, and teacher. Under his leadership, his school has received numerous awards and recognitions, including California State Distinguished School, Gold Ribbon School, Title I Academic School, Positive Behavioral Interventions and Supports (Platinum Level).
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| 20 Sep 2021 | Present as Epilogue | Rachel Carrillo Fairchild | No Point-Fives | 01:05:21 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:48), Tom shares a daily habit that has contributed to both his personal and professional success. Then, Tom is joined by author, speaker, and expert Rachel Carrillo Fairchild (10:29) for a discussion on how we effectively and efficiently support Multilingual Learners. Finally, in Assessment Corner (56:36), Tom focuses on why we should not include point-fives (.5) in our grading scales.
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| 08 May 2023 | Exceptions Prove the Rule | Dylan Wiliam | Cumulative Effect | 00:59:51 | |
In Don’t @ Me (3:56), Tom opens by explaining why the exceptions prove the rule rather than discredit it. Then (10:57) Tom is joined by Dylan Wiliam for part 1 (of 2) of a conversation about classroom assessment. Finally, in Assessment Corner (50:12), Tom provides a year-end reminder that grades should reflect the cumulative effect of instruction, not the points they've accumulated over time.
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| 06 Dec 2021 | I‘m Doing That! | George Sugai | Think They‘re Right | 01:11:29 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:11), Tom opens by recounting his work with George Sugai in the early 2000s and describes why George is on his Mount Rushmore of career influencers. Then, Tom is joined by George Sugai (14:04) in part one of their conversation about the origins of the OSEP Center for Positive Behavior Interventions and Supports. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:04:28), Tom focuses on the importance of student mindset and belief and how it greatly influences their receptivity to feedback and their willingness to keep learning.
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| 27 Feb 2023 | Last Thing You Said | Shelley Moore | Portfolios | 01:07:34 | |
In Don’t @ Me (2:37), Tom asked listeners to consider the question, "what's the last thing you said to yourself about yourself?" Then (10:11) Tom is joined by author and speaker, Shelley Moore to discuss the important aspects of equity, inclusion, & UDL. Finally, in Assessment Corner (57:47), Tom highlights why knowing its purpose is the most important part of implementing a portfolio system.
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| 23 May 2022 | Negative Self-Talk | Rick Jetter | Assess THAT! | 01:08:45 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:30), Tom explores the issue of negative self-talk and wonders why, if we wouldn’t say negative things to others, we keep saying negative things to ourselves. Then, Tom is joined by educator and author Rick Jetter (14:13) to discuss why students remember their teachers, sometimes forever. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:03:10), Tom and a special guest co-host talk about what we might underestimate and overestimate in terms of leading change in assessment & grading.
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| 31 Jan 2022 | Ruining Words | Susan Brookhart | Trust the Process | 01:15:19 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:05), Tom opens with a warning about how overusing words will ruin them and weaken their impact. Then, Tom is joined by renowned researcher, Susan Brookhart (10:48) for a conversation about a breadth of assessment and grading topics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:02:27), Tom shares some experiences he's had in supporting schools and districts in their efforts to transform their assessment and grading cultures and why you, especially if you are part of leading this effort, need to trust the process. .
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| 21 Jun 2024 | I'm Back | Paula Maeker | UYES! | 00:56:34 | |
In this episode, Tom shares where he has been and why it has been six months since his last episode. Then (4:54) Tom is joined by his good friend and colleague Paula Maeker to discuss the most promising practices in Literacy. Finally, Tom shares the trailer (52:55) for a new business/podcast venture called "UYES with Tom & Nat!" It's a podcast that helps stifled employees Unleash their Entrepreneurial Spirit - UYES!
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| 17 May 2021 | Public Humility | Jennifer Abrams | Constructed-Response | 01:18:36 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:11), Tom discusses why public proclamations of humility are really an attempt to cover up a hidden superiority complex. Then, Tom is joined by Jennifer Abrams (13:15) to discuss how we prepare for (and follow through on) difficult conversations. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:04:48), Tom explores the research on quality constructed-response items and offers some suggestions specific to extended written responses.
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| 15 Aug 2022 | Teaching Still Matters | Lainie Rowell | Leadership Blindspots | 01:15:43 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:32), Tom expresses his frustration with those teachers who seem to want to run away from referring to themselves as "teachers." Then, Tom is joined by Lainie Rowell (11:24) to discuss her latest book, "Evolving with Gratitude: Small Practices in Learning Communities That Make a Big Difference with Kids, Peers, and the World." Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (57:11), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about some Leadership Blindspots when it comes to leading the efforts to create a new assessment and grading paradigm in a school.
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
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| 28 Feb 2022 | Funny about Money | Tim Cavey | High School GPA | 01:09:24 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:36), Tom opens with an observation about how people have a funny relationship with money. Then, Tom is joined by MS Assistant Principal and the host of the Teachers on Fire podcast, Tim Cavey (13:50) for a conversation about an array of educational topics. Finally, in Assessment Corner (49:08), Tom answers a listener question about High School GPA, credit & grade determination. .
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| 06 Jun 2022 | I Was Tested | Andrea Samadi | Where to Begin | 01:19:39 | |
In Don't @ Me (3:17), Tom, through highlighting a truly awful travel experience last week, explores how life tests us and how we have to maintain perspective, regardless of how frustrated we might be. Then, Tom is joined by author and "Neuroscience Meets SEL" podcast host Andrea Samadi (27:14) to discuss how SEL competencies positively impact the brain and the physiological development in children and youth. Finally, in "Assess THAT with Tom & Nat" (1:01:47), Tom and special guest Natalie Vardabasso talk about where to begin if you're leading a reform effort in assessment & grading.
NEW BOOK BY TOM:
UPCOMING PROFESSIONAL LEARNING
CONNECT WITH NATALIE VARDABASSO
CONNECT WITH TOM SCHIMMER
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| 11 Oct 2021 | Shine Bright | Luis Cruz | Don‘t Overthink It | 01:07:01 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:46), Tom opens with a quick story from last week about how the small things in life – even if they are manufactured – can make a big difference in how we are feeling. Then, Tom is joined by friend and colleague Luis Cruz (11:19) to explore what it means to fulfill society’s new, more modern definition of ALL, as in all-means-all. Finally, in Assessment Corner (58:48), Tom talks briefly about rubrics and criteria. Not so much about the content and structure but about the creation of rubrics themselves and why we have to stop overthinking them.
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| 05 Apr 2021 | Happiness Booster | Lee Ann Jung | Habits of Learning | 01:27:31 | |
In Don't @ Me (2:37), Tom, as a counter to last week, identifies the most efficient and effective happiness booster. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Lee Ann Jung (14:37) to discuss sound assessment practices within the Universal Design for Learning framework. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:07:02), Tom describes five guidelines for schools as they separate academic achievement from the most essential habits of learning.
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| 10 Jul 2023 | Mindset Minute | Julie Schmidt Hasson | Now is the Time | 00:50:18 | |
In the Mindset Minute (2:22) - a new segment - Tom asserts that the power of positive thinking is as much about the present as it is about the future. Then (6:35) Tom is joined by educator and author Julie Schmidt Hasson to discuss her latest offering, "Pause, Ponder, and Persist in the Classroom: How Teachers Turn Challenges into Opportunities for Impact." Finally, in Assessment Corner (44:48), Tom makes the case for why now - the summer - is the perfect time to build your assessment literacy.
UPCOMING EVENTS
NEW BOOKS BY TOM:
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| 12 Apr 2021 | Debating Both Sides | Muhammad Khalifa | Homework | 01:34:39 | |
In Don't @ Me (1:50), Tom discusses how, by taking a balanced approach to issues or topics, people end up debating the extreme positions on both sides. Then, Tom is joined by Dr. Muhammad Khalifa (18:07) to discuss his book "Culturally Responsive School Leadership" and racial equity, in general. Finally, in Assessment Corner (1:21:48), Tom begins the first of two parts on the topic of homework.
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| 01 Nov 2021 | EduDivisiveness | Doug Reeves (Pt. 2) | Assessment Relevance | 00:47:03 | |
In Don't @ Me (6:22), Tom takes aim at the (intentional or otherwise) divisiveness that seems to be emerging within the education profession, especially on social media. Then, Tom is joined by Doug Reeves (15:38) part two of their conversation; this week centers on leadership and implementation of change. Finally, in Assessment Corner (39:05), Tom highlights the importance of relevance in assessment design.
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| 13 Jul 2024 | INTRODUCING: UYES Podcast with Tom Schimmer & Natalie Vardabasso | 00:02:59 | |
Are you feeling stifled in your job? Have you gone from being celebrated to being the problem? Are you ready to become your boss and finally live the life you were always meant for? If you answered 'yes' to any of the above questions, then this new podcast from Tom Schimmer and Natalie Vardabasso is for you! In each episode, Tom & Nat want to share their wisdom & experiences of leaving their jobs and building learning-based businesses as authors, speakers, and consultants. If you are ready to leap but need support, subscribe below and let's get started!
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