Adventure Travel Podcast - Big World Made Small (Jason Elkins - Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing)

Welcome to the Big World Made Small Podcast for the adventure traveler, where we go far beyond the beaches, resort hotels, and cruises to explore the really cool places, people, and activities that adventurous travelers crave. If your idea of a great vacation is sitting on a beach at an all-inclusive resort, you’re in the wrong place. However, if you’re like me, and a beach resort vacation sounds like torture, stick around. You’ve found your tribe.

My name is Jason Elkins, and as an adventure travel marketing consultant and tour operator myself, I am on a mission to impact the lives of adventure travelers, the tour operators they hire, and the communities that host them, creating deeply meaningful experiences that make this big world feel just a bit smaller.

Are you ready to discover your next great adventure, whether that looks something like climbing Mt Kilimanjaro in Africa, SCUBA diving in the South Pacific, or hot air ballooning in Turkey?  Then you’ll be happy to know that each episode of the Big World Made Small Podcast features a fascinating interview with an adventure travel expert that has agreed to share, with us, their own personal stories, favorite adventure destinations, and even some incredibly helpful tips and tricks they’ve learned while in the field. I trust that by the end of each episode you’ll feel like booking a ticket to enjoy the sights, sounds, smells, and tastes of these amazing places, and getting to know the incredible people that live there.

I’ll be your guide as we explore this amazing planet and its people on the Big World Made Small podcast. I am a former US Army paratrooper, third generation commercial hot air balloon pilot, paramotor pilot, advanced open water SCUBA diver, and ex-Montana fly fishing guide and lodge manager. I have managed boutique adventure tour operation businesses in the Rocky Mountains of Montana, off-shore in Belize, the Adirondacks in New York, and the desert of Arizona. I also spent nearly a decade with Orvis International Travel, leading a talented team of tour operation experts, putting together and hosting amazing fly fishing and adventure travel excursions around the world. I have tapped into my experience and network of travel pros to put together a weekly series of exclusive expert interviews that I am excited to share with you.

For the last couple of years I have lived a fully nomadic lifestyle, feeding my passion for exploration, creating amazing adventures, and meeting some of the most fascinating people along the way. I record every episode while traveling, so in a sense you’ll be joining me on my journey. Let’s discover some great adventures together and make this big world feel just a bit smaller.

And, don’t forget to take a quick trip over to our website at bigworldmadesmall.com and join our adventure travel community, where you’ll benefit from new episode announcements, exclusive adventure travel opportunities, and special access to the experts you’ve met on the show. You can also follow us on social media, using the links in the show notes below. And, if you’re getting value out of the show please help us grow by sharing it with your friends, family, and anyone else you know that wants to get far beyond the beaches, resort hotels, and cruise ships, the next time they travel.

I’ll publish another episode soon. Until then, keep exploring. It’s the best way to make a big world feel just a bit smaller.

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Adventure Travel, Career, Group Travel, Antarctica

Tom Smith
Vice President of Sales and Marketing for North America
Intrepid Travel

Tom began his career in the life-science and pharmaceutical sectors, before combining his passion for travelling and his work life, by joining the travel industry in 2013. After working in sales for a few years for a backpacker travel agency in Australia, he moved to Morocco to work for a surf camp (surfing being his other main passion).

In 2015 he joined the Intrepid marketing team in our EMEA headquarters in London, progressing to become EMEA Marketing Director in 2017. He then moved to Peru to become General Manager of Peak DMC South America, managing the on-the-ground operations for the Intrepid family of brands across Peru, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile and Argentina.

In July 2021 he became the Regional General Manager for our operations across Europe, the Middle East and Africa, and approximately one year later was promoted to his current role as Intrepid Travel's VP of Sales & Marketing for North America.


https://www.intrepidtravel.com/

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Adventure Travel, Ecuador, Climbing

Karl Egloff
International Mountain Guide / Professional Mountain Athlete
Cumbre Tours Ecuador

I was born and raised in Ecuador, studied business administration in Switzerland, dedicated myself to guiding all over the world (Switzerland, Ecuador, Venezuela, Turkey, Egypt) and decided to return to Ecuador to train professionally as a guide and open my own mountain agency.

Since 2014 I started to set speed records in important mountains such as the local ones, Cotopaxi-Cayambe-Chimborazo-Ilinizas as the emblematic 7summits Kilimanjaro - Aconcagua- Elbrus, Denali. In 2022 together with my partner we were able to set a speed record on the fifth highest mountain on the planet, Makalu 8482m without the use of oxygen and climb/descend the entire mountain from base camp in a single push without sleeping in any camp.

I am a father of two children and happily married to my Ecuadorian wife and between elite sport, projects, guiding and family I try to have a healthy and ambitious balance but above all fair for everyone. My project is called FKT 7 and it is about setting a world record in speed on the highest mountain of each continent but above all to continue guiding, receiving people from all over the world in Ecuador and with my agency all over the world, helping to fulfill the dream of many and to be part of it.

Summary

In this episode, Karl Egloff, a mountain guide and speed climber, shares his journey from early exposure to mountaineering to becoming a professional athlete. He discusses his passion for speed climbing and the challenges he has faced in pushing his limits. Karl also highlights the rewarding experiences he has had as a guide, including guiding a blind client to the summit of Aconcagua. Overall, Karl's story emphasizes the importance of connection and the transformative power of the mountains. In this conversation, Jason Elkins speaks with Karl Egglov, a mountaineer and founder of Cumbre Tours. They discuss Karl's passion for climbing and his experiences in the mountains. Karl shares his insights on climbing gear, training, and the beauty of the natural world. He also talks about the services offered by Cumbre Tours, including trekking tours and cultural experiences. The conversation concludes with Jason highlighting Karl's positive impact on others in the climbing community.

http://www.cumbretours.com/

Takeaways

• Early exposure to mountaineering shaped Karl's passion for the mountains and desire to become a mountain guide.
• Karl's speed climbing career has allowed him to push his limits and achieve world records, while also balancing his responsibilities as a father and guide.
• Guiding clients, especially those with unique challenges, has been a rewarding experience for Karl, emphasizing the importance of connection and the transformative power of the mountains.
• Karl's story highlights the need for balance and proper preparation when pursuing extreme sports, as well as the importance of having a plan B and prioritizing safety. Karl Egglov is a passionate mountaineer and founder of Cumbre Tours.
• Cumbre Tours offers a wide range of services, including climbing tours, trekking tours, and cultural experiences.
• Karl is knowledgeable about climbing gear and training and is always available to answer questions and provide advice.
• Karl has had a positive impact on others in the climbing community, mentoring and inspiring fellow climbers.

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USA, Maine, Adventure Travel Trade Association

Russell Walters
President
Northern Outdoors

Born in the U.K. Russell has been involved in the outdoor industry in Maine since the early 1980′s. A registered Maine Guide, he has experience on the east and west coasts of the U.S. including a four year term as General Manager for O.A.R.S. in Angels Camp, California. Russell returned to Maine in 2000 to become president of Northern Outdoors, a four-season Adventure Resort located in The Forks.

In addition to his role for Northern Outdoors, Russell is the Regional Director, North America for the Adventure Travel Trade Association. His work for the ATTA takes him the length and breadth of the U.S. and abroad, working with destinations, tour operators, guides and travel advisors to promote the economic, social and conservation benefits of adventure based travel through the ATTA’s network of trade events, educational programs and consumer facing initiatives including www.Adventure.travel

https://www.northernoutdoors.com/

Summary

Russell Walters, President of Northern Outdoors, shares his journey in the adventure travel industry and the growth of his company. He discusses the expansion of activities and accommodations, the transition from kayak instructing to photography and guiding, and the importance of soft skills in guides. Russell also talks about the changes in the adventure travel industry over the years, including the shift towards comfort and the impact of technology. He highlights the value of the Adventure Travel Trade Association (ATTA) in fostering collaboration and sharing experiences among industry professionals. The conversation explores the value of the ATTA community, recurring themes in ATTA conversations, the importance of networking and learning, the challenges of being an entrepreneur in the tourism industry, the biggest challenges for the future, and encouraging exploration and responsible travel.

Takeaways

• The adventure travel industry has seen a shift towards comfort and a broader demographic of travelers, including families and older individuals.
• Soft skills and personality are crucial for guides, as they contribute to the overall guest experience and teamwork.
• The Adventure Travel Trade Association (ATTA) provides a platform for collaboration and knowledge sharing among adventure travel professionals.
• Balancing comfort and disconnecting from technology can enhance the guest experience and promote meaningful connections with nature and others.
• The adventure travel industry is constantly evolving, and staying curious and adaptable is key to success. The ATTA community provides valuable resources and networking opportunities for those looking to grow or streamline their business.
• Recurring themes in ATTA conversations include sustainability and e-bikes.
• Networking and learning within the ATTA community can help entrepreneurs in the tourism industry overcome feelings of isolation.
• The biggest challenges for the future include staffing and the impacts of climate change.
• Travelers are encouraged to explore unexplored destinations with professional outfits and good equipment.

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Adventure Travel, Canada, NB, Bay of Fundy

Jordan Jamison
Owner & Operations Manager
Bay of Fundy Adventures

Jordan Jamison is an Owner, Ops. manager, Guide, and more at Bay of Fundy Adventures and Shipyard Cafe in St. Martins, New Brunswick. Jordan is passionate about sharing the Province he calls “Canada’s Best Kept Secret” with visitors from around the world. Jordan spends his time in furtherance of the company’s main goal: to showcase New Brunswick’s beautiful landscape and culture through adventure, interpretation, and unique personal experiences.

https://www.bayoffundyadventures.com/

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Jordan Jamison from Bay of Fundy Adventures. They discuss the unique challenges and experiences of operating in the Bay of Fundy, known for its highest tides in the world. Jordan shares his journey of becoming a guide and the importance of taking risks to pursue happiness. They also explore the power of storytelling and the profound moments that can be created through outdoor adventures. Jordan provides insights for planning a trip to New Brunswick and highlights the importance of connecting with the local community.

Takeaways

• The Bay of Fundy in New Brunswick, Canada, is known for its highest tides in the world.
• Taking risks and pursuing happiness can lead to a fulfilling career in the outdoor adventure industry.
• Outdoor adventures create connections and profound moments that can be cherished for a lifetime.
• When planning a trip to New Brunswick, it is important to give each province enough time to fully experience the diverse outdoor activities and connect with the local community.

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Adventure Travel, Worldwide, Podcasting, Trekking

Kit Parks
Podcast Host
Active Travel Adventures

Hi, I'm Kit Parks.  I discovered adventure travel when I impulsively joined a friend backpacking volcanoes in Nicaragua when I was 56, and got hooked.

Adventure travel - a foreign concept to me until that fateful adventure - turned my world around and galvanized me to start the popular Active Travel Adventures podcast.  If I hadn't heard about adventure travel, then maybe others hadn't either, and I wanted to spread the word.

On the show, I seek to inspire and empower others to lead a bigger life through adventure travel.  I encourage folks to step outside of their comfort zone, train, and then go on an epic adventure.  The show features adventures that regular folks can do on their vacation.

Over the past six years, I've hiked, biked and paddled my way across all seven continents and have never looked back.

https://activetraveladventures.com/

Summary

In this conversation, Kit Parks, the host of the Active Travel Adventures podcast, shares her travel journey and insights into adventure travel. She discusses her transition from being a workaholic to embracing travel and adventure. Kit emphasizes the importance of taking small steps outside of one's comfort zone and the value of training and preparation. She also provides advice for finding a compatible travel partner and highlights the need for women to consider safety when traveling. Kit shares her favorite travel experiences and reveals her dream destination. In this conversation, Kit Parks shares her journey of discovering walking holidays in Scotland and how it inspired her to start a podcast to spread the word about adventure travel. She discusses the importance of inspiring real people to go on adventures and shares transformational stories from her adventure trips. Kit and Jason also explore the benefits of adventure travel, including personal growth and the power of connection. They emphasize the role of shared experiences in bonding and encourage listeners to go out and explore the world. Kit provides information about her website, ActiveTravelAdventures.com, as a resource for adventure travel information and inspiration.

Takeaways

• Take small steps outside of your comfort zone to build confidence in adventure travel.
• Training and preparation are key to feeling confident and capable during adventures.
• Consider safety and choose travel partners who align with your interests and travel style.
• Embrace opportunities for travel and adventure now, rather than waiting for retirement.
• Japan's Kumano Kodo trail is a dream destination for Kit Parks. Adventure travel can be a transformative experience that inspires personal growth and self-confidence.
• Shared experiences in adventure travel create strong bonds and connections between people.
• Adventure travel can be accessible to everyone, regardless of athletic ability or experience.
• ActiveTravelAdventures.com is a valuable resource for adventure travel information and inspiration.

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Adventure Travel, South America, Colombia

Daniel Buitron
Founder & CEO
Colombia Ecotravel

Daniel Buitron is a seasoned entrepreneur with a passion for leadership, sustainable tourism, and fostering meaningful partnerships. With over 13 years of experience in the travel industry, he has left an indelible mark on the landscape of ecotourism in Colombia.

As the CEO and Co-Founder of Colombia Ecotravel, Daniel leads a dedicated team that has established the company as a trusted name in ecotourism travel services. They cater to travelers seeking safe, and unforgettable experiences in  Colombia. His commitment goes beyond business as he personally travels to and collaborates with local sustainable travel providers, ensuring the highest quality services and contributing to conservation efforts in the Amazon.

https://colombiaeco.travel/

Summary

Daniel Buitron shares his journey of starting a tourism business in Colombia and promoting the country as a destination. He discusses the focus on ecotourism and the challenges of operating a business remotely. Daniel also addresses safety concerns and the perception of Colombia among tourists. He emphasizes the importance of responsible tourism and avoiding dark tourism. Additionally, he mentions the opportunities for experiencing plant-based medicinal and ceremonial traditions in Colombia. Colombia is known for its natural beauty, including its wax palms, which are the tallest palms in the world. These palms are unique to Colombia and are critically endangered due to past use for Palm Sunday and wax production. Efforts are now being made to protect and reforest the areas where wax palms are found. Colombia offers diverse and majestic landscapes that change around every bend of the road. The culture in Colombia is characterized by exuberance, happiness, and a love for life. The Colombian people are warm, friendly, and always ready to greet others with a smile.

Takeaways

• Colombia offers diverse and unique experiences for adventure travelers.
• Starting a tourism business in Colombia requires passion and a deep understanding of the destination.
• Ecotourism is a growing focus in Colombia, with a rich biodiversity and cultural heritage.
• Safety concerns in Colombia are often based on outdated perceptions, and the country has made significant progress in recent years.
• Responsible tourism and avoiding dark tourism are important for preserving the culture and environment of Colombia.
• Colombia offers opportunities for experiencing plant-based medicinal and ceremonial traditions.

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Adventure Travel, Chile, Bicycling, E-bikes

Cristian Levy
CEO
Amity Tours

Hi, I'm Cristian Levy, Founder & CEO, father, husband, cycling enthusiast and passionate skier. Master Degree in Hotel Management and Tourism Business Administration.

My father and I started Amity Tours in 2003. We are a boutique inbound tour operator in Chile, specializing in 4 products: Bike tours, Hiking tours, Skiing tours and Conservation tours. Likewise, we offer Multisport trips, Family Adventures and Woman tours. Our headquarters are located in Pucon, the Capital of Adventure Travel in Chile.

I live 3 months in the Bay Area California and 9 months in Chile's Lake and Volcano District. I am responsible for developing new businesses with European, North American and Latin American clients and strategic alliances with key tour operators around the world. Currently, I'm leading a project to become the first zero waste and carbon neutral adventure company in Chile.

https://www.amity-tours.com/

Show Summary

Cristian Levy, the founder of Amity Tours, shares his journey in the adventure travel industry and the growth of his company over the past 20 years. He discusses the opportunities and challenges he faced, including the development of bicycle tourism and the introduction of electric bikes. Cristian highlights the importance of saying yes to new opportunities and adapting to changing market demands. He also emphasizes the role of technology in the industry and the need for guides to be trained in the latest advancements. Overall, Cristian's story showcases the evolution of adventure travel and the resilience required to succeed in the industry. In this conversation, Jason Elkins speaks with Cristian Levy, the founder of Amity Tours, about the importance of being a team player in the guiding industry. They also discuss the composition of Amity Tours' international team and the role of a bike nerd in the company. Cristian shares insights into their carbon footprint and emissions report, highlighting the impact of air travel on their operations. He explains the process of carbon offsetting and tree planting to compensate for their emissions. 

Takeaways

• Opportunities in the adventure travel industry can arise unexpectedly, and it's important to have the courage to say yes and adapt to new challenges.
• Developing infrastructure and creating unique experiences are key to attracting tourists and growing the adventure travel market.
• The introduction of electric bikes has opened up new possibilities for adventure travel, allowing people of different fitness levels to enjoy cycling tours.
• Technology plays a significant role in the industry, and guides need to be trained in the latest advancements to provide the best experience for clients. Being a team player is the most important skill for guides at Amity Tours.
• Amity Tours has an international team to balance cultural aspects and cater to their international clients.
• The company has a "bike nerd" who takes care of the bicycle fleet and software updates.
• Amity Tours conducted a carbon footprint and emissions report, discovering that air travel contributes to 88% of their total emissions.
• The company is committed to sustainability and is a leader in the adventure travel industry in Chile.
• Amity Tours plants trees to offset their carbon emissions, partnering with indigenous communities for tree planting projects.

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Adventure Travel, Mongolia, Ecotourism, Culture

Jan Wigsten
Founder
360° Mongolia

360° Mongolia is a collection of extraordinary bespoke experiences in Mongolia, designed by Jan Wigsten.  Jan has been engaged in Mongolian tourism since 1980.  Since 1993 as a local entrepreneur.  He is widely recognized as Mongolia’s sustainable tourism pioneer.

Our approach to travel in Mongolia has always focussed on the places where we develop long-term partnerships with local communities and conservation initiatives. These favourite places have what can only be described as 360° landscapes with unspoiled views in every direction – an immersive experience in another world.

To visit these remote locations in comfort and style we have developed a unique travel philosophy utilizing small mobile private camps, comprising of well-appointed traditional Mongolian Gers.


https://www.360degreesmongolia.com/

Summary

Jan Wigsten, the founder of 360 Degrees Mongolia, discusses his company's promise of a 360-degree landscape view around private foldable camps. He shares insights into the unique experiences his company offers, such as walking or riding across the vast Mongolian landscape and camping with nomads. Jan also talks about his background in tourism and his involvement in community-based tourism projects around the world. He highlights the importance of understanding the individual choices and strategies of local communities in tourism development. Jan addresses concerns about geopolitical issues and emphasizes the safety and deposit policies of his company. In this conversation, Jason Elkins interviews Jan Wigsten, the founder of 360 Degrees Mongolia, about travel and fly fishing in Mongolia. They discuss the concerns around deposits and booking trips, particularly for future dates. Jan explains the unique aspects of fly fishing in Mongolia, including the high demand and limited spots available. They also delve into the importance of tourism for conservation and the local communities. 

Takeaways

• 360 Degrees Mongolia offers a unique camping experience with a promise of a 360-degree landscape view around private foldable camps.
• Community-based tourism projects should focus on understanding the individual choices and strategies of local communities rather than treating them as a single entity.
• The tourism industry is experiencing changes due to factors such as the COVID-19 pandemic and resource scarcity.
• Mongolia's geopolitical situation with Russia and China is not a major concern for tourism, and the country maintains a friendly relationship with its neighbors.
• Safety is a priority for 360 Degrees Mongolia, and the company has flexible deposit policies to address concerns. When booking trips, particularly for future dates, it's important to consider the deposit policies and potential risks involved.
• Fly fishing in Mongolia is a popular and sought-after experience, with limited spots available and a high demand.
• Fly fishing can contribute to conservation efforts and benefit local communities by creating value around the resource and incentivizing protection of the rivers.
• Mongolian rivers have a natural balance due to the presence of apex predators, such as the Taiman, which regulate the fish population.

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Adventure Travel, Africa, Bhutan, Expansion

Ryan Powell
Chief Operating Officer - Sales & Touring
andBeyond

Ryan Powell is andBeyond’s Chief Operating Officer of Sales and Touring. His is currently focused on leading their exceptional touring businesses in Africa, Asia and South America to ensure a consistent, leading, world-class guest and partner experience. He is passionate about the conservation of wildlife and natural spaces, and community development, and proudly works for a company which strives to leave the world a better place for the next generation.

https://www.andbeyond.com/

Summary

In this conversation, Jason Elkins interviews Ryan Powell, the Chief Operating Officer for Sales and Touring at andBeyond. They discuss Ryan's journey into adventure travel, the challenges and opportunities in the industry, and the transformative power of travel. Ryan shares stories of guests whose experiences with andBeyond have changed their lives and inspired them to make a difference. He emphasizes the importance of finding the part of the tourism industry that you love and connecting with people who are already in the industry to learn and explore opportunities. In this conversation, Ryan Powell discusses the impact of andBeyond's work in the travel industry. He highlights the importance of repeat guests and staff recognition, emphasizing the commitment and dedication of their team. Powell also shares the expansion plans and future goals of andBeyond, including their focus on conservation and sustainability. He emphasizes the urgent need to protect wildlife and natural habitats. Additionally, Powell discusses the positive impact of tourism on local communities and encourages responsible travel practices. The conversation concludes with a reminder of the consequences of negligence and the importance of making conscious choices in travel.

Takeaways

• Adventure travel offers opportunities for career changes and personal growth.
• Traveling can be a transformative experience that opens your eyes to different cultures and perspectives.
• The adventure travel industry needs passionate and skilled individuals to drive it forward.
• Guest experiences and feedback can validate the purpose and impact of adventure travel. andBeyond values repeat guests and recognizes their staff's commitment to their mission.
• The company is focused on making a positive impact on communities and the environment.
• andBeyond aims to double their impact by 2030 through conservation and sustainability efforts.
• Tourism can have a significant positive impact on local communities when done responsibly.

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Adventure Travel, Chile, Tourism Business, Sustainability & Resiliency

Gonzalo Fuenzalida
Ceo/founder
Chile Nativo Travel

As founder, Gonzalo is responsible for maintaining and developing the characteristics that Chile Nativo is famous for: top notch service, excellent outdoor programs and a continued commitment to sustainability.

Eternally optimistic Gonzalo is an eternal fan of Chile’s great south, its sublime landscapes, moody weather and uncharted canals and islands. His Patagonia travel tip? Choose the shoulder season: bursting with flowers and baby animals in spring; followed by crunchy copper-toned leaves, empty trails and more stable weather in fall.

Besides Patagonia, his heart belongs to Chile’s superlative seafood (unfortunately the same can’t be said for melon - he’s never liked it!). Adventures on horseback across Mongolia, traveling the Trans-Siberian railway and exploring Vietnam and Japan top Gonzalo’s bucket list.

https://chilenativo.travel/

Summary

Gonzalo Fuenzalida shares his journey from leaving corporate life to starting Chile Nativo, an adventure travel company in Patagonia. He discusses the challenges and successes of starting a business during a crisis and the importance of adaptability. Gonzalo also highlights the differences in tourist preferences between Americans and Europeans and the role of language in travel choices. He emphasizes the need for sustainable tourism practices and the importance of employee well-being and happiness. Gonzalo shares upcoming experiences, such as e-bike trips and exploring lesser-known regions of Patagonia. In this conversation, Jason Elkins speaks with Gonzalo about his experiences in Chile and the beauty of its untouched places. They discuss the importance of people in travel experiences and the excitement of exploring new destinations. The conversation concludes with an invitation to visit Gonzalo's website and connect with his team.

Takeaways

• Adaptability and flexibility are key to success in the tourism industry.
• Understanding the preferences and needs of different markets, such as Americans and Europeans, is crucial for attracting clients.
• Language plays a significant role in travel choices, with Americans often seeking English-speaking destinations.
• Crises can provide opportunities for growth and reflection, leading to positive changes in business practices.
• Sustainable tourism practices and employee well-being are essential for long-term success in the industry. Chile offers many untouched and undiscovered places to explore.
• The beauty of Northern Patagonia in Chile is breathtaking.
• The people in a destination play a significant role in creating memorable travel experiences.
• Taking the leap and embracing adventure can lead to incredible experiences.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Adventure Travel, Worldwide, Family, Culture, Tourism Business

Robin Pollak
Owner & Chief Adventure Officer
Journeys International

Robin is a creative strategist, experienced facilitator, and the second-generation owner of Journeys International. Founded by her parents in 1978 based on a commitment to cross-cultural connection and environmental preservation, Journeys has long been a pioneer in ecotourism and adventure travel. Now, under Robin's visionary leadership, the company continues to break new ground designing experiences that foster discovery, spark human connection, and help people see the world and themselves through new eyes. Her unique perspective on adventure can be traced back to previous work as an experiential educator in summer camp and university settings, with a focus on service learning, immersive experiences, and ethical leadership. Robin earned an MBA from The George Washington University as a Global Leaders Fellow, and graduated with a BA in psychology from Carleton College. She and her husband, Joe, are raising two extremely energetic boys in Ann Arbor, MI.

https://www.journeysinternational.com/

Summary

Robin Pollak from Journeys International shares her story and insights into the adventure travel industry. She discusses how her parents accidentally started the company and their philosophy of connecting travelers with local cultures. Robin emphasizes the importance of cultural connections and the transformative power of travel. She also discusses the future of adventure travel, including the need for sustainable aviation travel and personalized experiences. In this conversation, Jason and Robin discuss various topics related to travel, including using Chat GPT for trip ideas, traveling with family, milestone trips, and the founder's journey to Antarctica. They also explore the importance of multi-generational travel and creating special memories with parents. The conversation highlights the essence of adventure and stepping outside one's comfort zone to gain new perspectives and transform through travel.

Takeaways

• Cultural connections and immersive experiences are the essence of travel.
• Travel can be a transformative experience that helps people understand their place in the world.
• The future of adventure travel lies in sustainable aviation and personalized travel experiences.
• It is important to challenge assumptions and seek out smaller, more authentic travel experiences. Use Chat GPT as an idea resource for trip planning
• Consider taking your parents on a trip to create special memories
• Antarctica offers a unique and transformative travel experience
• Multi-generational travel strengthens family bonds
• Stepping outside your comfort zone leads to personal growth and new perspectives

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

 Adventure Travel, Worldwide, Paleontology-centric Tourism

Zach Vanasse
Founder & Director
Dinosaur Trips

Zach Vanasse has spent the past decade plus working across a variety of roles in the travel and tourism sector, including travel journalist, marketing and PR consultant, not-for-profit program manager, and guest services and operations director to create unrivalled travel experiences 66 million years in the making.

https://dinosaurtrips.com/

Summary

Zach Vanasse, the founder of Dinosaur Trips, discusses the influence of movies like Jurassic Park on paleontology and the tourism industry. He shares his background in tourism and the challenges of starting his own company. Zach emphasizes the importance of balancing the interests of different travelers and making dinosaur trips appealing to everyone. He also highlights the excitement of discovering something new in the field of paleontology. Dinosaur Trips offers unique travel experiences that combine paleontology with other aspects of tourism. The conversation explores the excitement of paleontology and the challenge of finding the right paleontologists to lead tours. It also highlights the appeal of dinosaurs and the power of storytelling in engaging people with paleontology. The idea of creating standalone trips with paleontology opportunities is discussed, as well as the potential for combining paleontology with wildlife experiences. The term 'Dino Nerd' is embraced in marketing, and the importance of self-selection in the tourism industry is acknowledged.

Takeaways

• Movies like Jurassic Park have had a significant impact on paleontology and the tourism industry, inspiring a new generation of dinosaur enthusiasts.
• Having a background in tourism and a comprehensive understanding of the industry can provide valuable insights and skills when starting a new venture.
• Balancing the interests of different travelers is crucial in designing itineraries that appeal to both dinosaur enthusiasts and non-enthusiasts.
• The possibility of discovering something new in paleontology adds an element of excitement and adventure to dinosaur trips. Dinosaur Trips offers travel experiences that allow people to share in the excitement of paleontology.
• Creating standalone trips with paleontology opportunities can appeal to both paleo nerds and their partners or family members.
• The fascination with dinosaurs and the storytelling aspect of paleontology can engage people of all ages.
• Combining paleontology with wildlife experiences can enhance the overall travel experience.
• Finding the right paleontologists who are good with people and can communicate effectively is a challenge in the industry.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Adventure Travel, Worldwide, Travel Writing

Angie Orth
Author of Flirting with Disaster
Angie Away Media

Angie Orth is a writer and speaker best known for her travel and lifestyle website, Angie Away, and travel series The Jet Sisters. She’s a recovering PR agency publicist, former New Yorker, current Floridian, hesitant risk-taker, and allegedly, a grown-up. She’s the host of the Traveling with AAA podcast and has covered travel for Today, AFAR, Cosmopolitan, Buzzfeed, Lonely Planet, the Today show, and Destination America.

To date, Angie has visited more than 60 countries and she absolutely does not have a favorite.

https://angieaway.com/

Her book "Flirting with Disaster" is available at: https://amzn.to/48UENij

Summary

Angie Orth shares her journey from a small town in Florida to working in PR in New York City and eventually embarking on a year-long trip around the world. She discusses the challenges and loneliness of solo travel, the importance of packing light, and the process of self-discovery through travel. Angie also touches on the pressure of having a favorite place and teases the plot of her book, 'Flirting with Disaster.' The conversation explores the balance between enjoying travel experiences and being aware of the world's challenges. It emphasizes the importance of being a good representative of one's home country and leaving a positive impact on the places visited. The contrast between beauty and reality is highlighted, along with the need to confront first world problems and gain perspective. The concept of adventure extends beyond adrenaline activities to include stepping outside one's comfort zone. Understanding the struggles of others, particularly those in poverty, is a transformative experience. The conversation also emphasizes the importance of appreciating what one has and the luxury of basic amenities. Lastly, it emphasizes the power of connections and conversations in broadening one's perspective.

Takeaways

• Find a balance between enjoying travel experiences and being aware of global challenges.
• Be a good representative of your home country and leave a positive impact on the places you visit.
• Confront first world problems and gain perspective on what others go through.
• Adventure extends beyond adrenaline activities to stepping outside your comfort zone.
• Understanding the struggles of others, particularly those in poverty, is transformative.
• Appreciate what you have and the luxury of basic amenities.
• Connections and conversations with people from different cultures broaden your perspective.

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Adventure Travel, Iran, Russia, North Korea, Central Asia

Douglas Grimes
MIR Corporation
President

Douglas was inspired to grow the company after traveling to the Soviet Union in the mid-1980s on a goodwill exchange between members of the Soviet Olympic volleyball team and players of the sport from 11 U.S. states. He has made over 120 trips to our destinations and is a member of the Explorers Club.

Whether exploring archaeological sites in Central Asia and the Caucasus or leading specialty tours, Douglas’s trips have spanned MIR’s destinations since our inception in 1986.

Recent travels include Georgia, Uzbekistan, Saudi Arabia, Iraq including Kurdistan, Iran and Armenia.

https://www.mircorp.com/

Summary
Doug Grimes, President of MIR Corporation, shares his experiences and insights in the travel industry. He discusses the challenges and opportunities he faced after the collapse of the Soviet Union and the transition to a dozen new countries. Doug also reflects on the changing profile of guides and the passion for travel. He shares his experiences visiting North Korea and the potential for future trips. Additionally, Doug highlights the growing tourism industry in Central Asia and the challenges for North Americans in visiting the region. This part of the conversation covers the challenges of traveling to Central Asia, the popular trip called Journey Through Central Asia, the unique society of Turkmenistan, the hospitality and culture in Central Asia, the food scene in the region, the possibilities for digital nomading, the choice between DIY travel and using a tour operator, and the considerations for traveling to Iran. In this conversation, Douglas Grimes, the founder of MIR Corporation, discusses the unique travel experiences his company offers in lesser-known destinations. The conversation covers topics such as the ancient Persian culture and hospitality in Iran, the expansion of MIR Corporation into the Middle East, the new tourism opportunities in Saudi Arabia and Oman, and the vision of connecting people and cultures through travel. It also highlights the adventurous and committed nature of MIR Corporation in exploring unconventional destinations. The conversation emphasizes the importance of travel in promoting understanding and reducing conflicts between cultures.

Takeaways

• Traveling to Central Asia can be challenging due to the distance and limited access, but there are more flight options available now.
• The Journey Through Central Asia, The Five Stans trip is popular as it allows travelers to explore five countries in one trip.
• Turkmenistan is a unique and controlled society, similar to North Korea in some ways.
• Hospitality is highly valued in Central Asia, and the people are friendly and welcoming.
• The food scene in Central Asia is developing, with traditional dishes like plov and bread being popular.
• Digital nomading in Central Asia is possible, but it requires pre-planning and some countries are more suitable than others.
• For a smoother and more immersive experience, it is recommended to travel to Central Asia with a tour operator.
• Traveling to Iran is possible for US passport holders, but it requires a visa and organized planning. Iran offers a rich cultural experience with its ancient Persian culture, architecture, and archaeological sites.
• MIR Corporation has expanded its focus to the Middle East, including Saudi Arabia and Oman, which offer new and exciting tourism opportunities.
• The vision of MIR

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Adventure Travel, India, Himalayas, Trekking, Rafting

Vaibhav Kala
Founder
Aquaterra Adventures

Guiding since the beginning of organised and serious adventure travel in the early 90s, he has been at the forefront of conceiving, planning and executing trips that were considered too audacious to run.
Those were the days of the telex, fax and shell accounts were barely getting through.

We are different in terms of sheer range of trips, the consistency with which they are run, and the quality and safety of each trip. Our trips are less flash-in-the-pan and more consistent departures, into more and more remote regions, valleys and trails.

Vaibhav is responsible for helping open up remote Himalayan valleys to adventure tourism, and has helped open up Indian river running like none before – with rivers like the Tons 19 years after it was run in its entirety, the Siang (Upper Brahmaputra), Subansari, Lohit in Arunachal Pradesh, the Pindar. Several of these trips are run by our company alone.

https://aquaterra.in/

Summary

Vaibhav Kala, from Aquaterra Adventures in India, shares his journey in adventure tourism and the challenges and successes he has experienced. He discusses the appeal of the Himalayas and the combination of mountain climbing and river rafting in his business. Vaibhav emphasizes the importance of choosing the right operator and setting expectations for adventure travelers. He also highlights the impact of adventure tourism on local communities and the need for safety regulations in the industry. Vaibhav shares information about the Himalayan Adventure Challenge and the growth of adventure travel in India.

Takeaways

• Adventure tourism in the Indian Himalayas offers a unique and diverse experience for travelers.
• Choosing the right operator is crucial for a safe and enjoyable adventure travel experience.
• Adventure tourism can have a positive impact on local communities by supporting the local economy.
• Safety regulations and standards are important to ensure the well-being of adventure travelers.
• Adventure tourism can create lifelong memories and experiences for travelers.

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Episode Topics:
Worldwide, Exotic Destinations, Career

Jon Nicholson
Founder & Director of Planning and Product
Miru Adventures

Jon has been planning trips professionally for over 45 years and is still passionate about finding new destinations that are just opening or returning to a place to have new and different experiences.  Believing strongly that the investment in travel to enrich your life is one of the best investments you can make he takes it to heart and travels whenever he can.  

Having visited over 100 countries on all 7 continents he brings this background to planning adventures at Miru.  When not dreaming and planning he is an avid cyclist, hiker and runner.

https://www.miruadventures.com/

Summary

Jon Nicholson, the founder and director of planning and product for Miru Adventures, shares his unique journey in the travel industry and his philosophy on travel. He emphasizes the importance of slow travel and creating trips with a common theme or story. Jon also discusses the value of travel agents and the challenges they face in a changing industry. He highlights the need for tourism boards to promote destinations and rebuild infrastructure to attract travelers. Overall, Jon's passion for travel and expertise in adventure travel shines through in his approach to planning unforgettable trips. The conversation covers topics such as politics and State Department warnings, the importance of research and local vendors, approaches to tourism and conservation, big game hunting and conservation, and sustainability and the future of travel.

Takeaways

• Slow travel allows for a deeper and more meaningful experience of a destination.
• Travel agents provide expertise and personalized service, especially for complex or high-value trips.
• Tourism boards play a crucial role in promoting destinations and rebuilding infrastructure to attract travelers.
• Combining unique countries or destinations with a common theme can create a more immersive and cohesive travel experience. Consider the politics behind State Department warnings when evaluating travel destinations.
• Do thorough research and consult with knowledgeable individuals before making travel decisions.
• Choose local vendors who have developed relationships and connections in the destination.
• Support sustainable tourism models that benefit local communities and preserve wildlife.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction

01:22
Jon's Origin Story

05:31
Passion for Flying

06:54
Interest in Travel at a Young Age

10:11
The Value of Travel Agents

16:55
Profound Changes in the Travel Industry

20:25
The Role of Travel Agents

23:24
Becoming a Travel Agent

27:07
Jon's Philosophy on Travel

30:47
Combining Unique Countries

34:12
Challenges of Reopening Destinations

41:12
The Role of Tourism Boards

43:24
Politics and State Department Warnings

44:14
Importance of Research and Local Vendors

47:37
Approaches to Tourism and Conservation

51:04
Big Game Hunting and Conservation

52:47
Sustainability and the Future of Travel

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Area/Topic
Romania, Bicycling

Ionut Maftei
Guide and Owner
Bike In Time Romania

Born during the Communist era and raised amidst the challenges of the '90s, I've had a unique journey that reflects the profound changes Romania has undergone. My life has been a tale of two worlds - from those dark times to embracing the promising economic growth that followed the year 2000.

While I always had a bicycle by my side, it was only after the millennium that the idea of launching a business in the realm of cycling tourism truly ignited within me. My educational background lies in Banking and Financing, and my career kicked off with my involvement in Romania's pioneering mortgage projects. Subsequently, I ventured into the world of business consulting.

My passion for cycling and the allure of cycling tourism gradually transformed from a mere hobby into a dedicated project. Today, I am deeply immersed in this endeavor.

My recent endeavors have taken me into the realm of European projects, where I've played a significant role in shaping Romania's National Cycling Plan. Notably, I hold the prestigious position of a European Cyclists Federation route inspector and serve as a national auditor for bicycle policies.

In 2021, I received the honor of being recognized as a Romanian cycling ambassador, a testament to my contributions to the highly successful Danube Cycling Plans project. My ultimate goal is to firmly place Romania on the global map of must-visit destinations for cycling enthusiasts, working diligently to establish our country as a top choice for travelers.

Join me on this exciting journey as we pedal towards a brighter, more sustainable future for Romania's tourism industry.

https://www.bikeintime.com/

Summary

Ionut Maftei, the founder of Bike in Time Romania, shares his journey into the world of bicycling tourism and his vision for putting Romania on the map as a top adventure travel destination. He discusses the challenges and opportunities of developing the cycling culture in Romania and the growth of the adventure tourism industry. Ionut also addresses misconceptions about Romania, particularly the association with Dracula, and highlights the importance of promoting the country's ethnic communities. He emphasizes the variety of activities and customized tours offered by Bike in Time Romania, catering to different interests and abilities.

Takeaways

• Romania is emerging as a top adventure travel destination, particularly for cycling tourism.
• The growth of the adventure tourism industry in Romania presents opportunities for young people to pursue careers in this field.
• Romania offers a variety of activities and experiences beyond the popular Dracula narrative, including exploring ethnic communities and experiencing the country's natural beauty.
• Bike in Time Romania provides customized tours and parallel activities for travelers of all ages and abilities, ensuring a unique and tailored experience.

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Area/Topic
Ecuador, Adventure Travel, Ecotourism, Business

Henry Sisa
CEO-Founder
Adventure Journeys

I love adventure travel. I have been in the tourism industry for more than 15 years, almost all of that time as a naturalist guide and adventure trip leader throughout Ecuador and The Galapagos. I am particularly interested in the Amazon rainforest, and enjoy sharing it with guests while trekking, biking, kayaking, climbing, diving, and even horseback riding. I am committed to creating holidays with a purpose, and off the beaten path. I want each guest to have a unique experience filled with awe, fun, and connection, ensuring long-lasting memories. My team and I take great pride in organizing customized programs, expertly crafted to accommodate the unique interests and needs of each guest.

https://www.adventurejourneys.com/

Summary
Henry Sisa from Adventure Journeys in Ecuador shares his journey and the diverse adventures his company offers. He discusses the unique experiences of visiting indigenous communities and the remote areas of the Amazon. Henry also highlights the best time to visit the Amazon and the different climates in Ecuador. He emphasizes that adventure travel is not limited to extreme activities and can be tailored to different interests and age groups. Henry recommends visiting Quito and Cuenca for a week-long trip and trying the traditional dish called encebollado. He also mentions the ceremonial and medicinal experiences available in Ecuador. In this conversation, Henry from Ecuador shares his passion for his country and the unique experiences it offers to travelers. He discusses the beauty and diversity of Ecuador, the importance of sustainable tourism, and the incredible wildlife found in the Galapagos Islands. He also highlights the rich culture and delicious cuisine of Ecuador. Overall, this conversation provides a comprehensive overview of what makes Ecuador a must-visit destination.

Takeaways

• Ecuador offers a diverse range of landscapes and experiences, from the Amazon rainforest to the Galapagos Islands.
• Sustainable tourism is a priority in Ecuador, with efforts to protect the environment and support local communities.
• The Galapagos Islands are a unique destination known for their incredible wildlife and conservation efforts.
• Ecuadorian culture is rich and vibrant, with a mix of indigenous traditions and Spanish influences.
• Ecuadorian cuisine is delicious and varied, with dishes like ceviche and llapingachos showcasing the country's culinary heritage.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction and Background

03:15
Henry's Journey and Adventure Journeys

08:19
Exploring Ecuador and the Galapagos

15:10
Experiencing the Indigenous Communities

21:42
Best Time to Visit the Amazon

23:08
Different Climates in Ecuador

28:13
Adventure Travel in Ecuador

32:26
Recommended Places to Visit in Ecuador

39:29
Ceremonial and Medicinal Experiences

44:19
Surprising Aspects of the Galapagos

48:38
Must-Try Dish in Ecuador

10:00
The Beauty and Diversity of Ecuador

20:00
Sustainable Tourism in Ecuador

30:00
Exploring the Galapagos Islands

40:00
Ecuadorian Culture and Cuisine

50:00
Conclusion and Invitation

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Fly Fishing

Pat Pendergast
Director of International Travel
The Fly Shop

For close to 30 years I have been guiding fly anglers to the finest international fly fishing destinations in the world. From Alaska to Tierra del Fuego, Kamchatka Russia to Chile, Patagonia, freshwater or saltwater, I have been fortunate to have traveled the world with a fly rod in hand. I have been a fly fishing guide, owned and operated my own lodge, and have helped develop some of the most sought after fly fishing operations in the world.

https://www.theflyshop.com/

Summary

In this conversation, Pat Pendergast from The Fly Shop discusses his background in fly fishing travel and the appeal of the sport. He shares his journey from working in Alaska to joining The Fly Shop and becoming a leader in the industry. Pat emphasizes the importance of experiencing new destinations and cultures, and how fishing is often the catalyst for these adventures. He also discusses the changing demographics of fly fishing travel, with younger anglers seeking more adventurous trips. Pat highlights the need to choose the right destination based on physical ability and the importance of accommodating older anglers. In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Pat discuss the power of adventure tourism and the connections it creates between guides and clients. They also talk about favorite destinations and the excitement of upcoming trips. Pat shares his upcoming trips to the Seychelles and musky fishing in Canada. They also discuss the potential for new fishing destinations and the importance of seizing opportunities to explore the outdoors.

Takeaways

• Adventure tourism allows for meaningful connections between guides and clients.
• Favorite destinations are often the next trip that one is going on.
• There are always new fishing destinations to explore, and the potential for discovery is still present.
• Seize opportunities to go on trips and explore the outdoors, as life is unpredictable.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction

01:15
Background and Introduction to Fly Fishing Travel

03:11
Getting Started in Fly Fishing

04:06
Transitioning to The Fly Shop

06:26
Moving to Alaska

07:48
Adventurous Spouses

08:44
Challenges and Realities of Fishing Travel

12:30
What is Fly Fishing?

13:57
The Appeal of Fly Fishing

18:14
Fly Fishing and Archery Hunting

19:36
Trout Live in Beautiful Places

23:15
The Experience of Fishing Travel

27:35
Catering to Non-Anglers

34:44
Changes in the Fly Fishing Travel Industry

37:35
Shifting Demographics of Fly Fishing Travel

43:31
Younger Anglers and Adventurous Trips

45:26
Choosing the Right Destination for Physical Ability

48:15
Accommodating Older Anglers

49:11
The Power of Adventure Tourism

50:09
Favorite Destinations and Excitement for Future Trips

51:02
Upcoming Trips to the Seychelles and Musky Fishing in Canada

52:56
Exploring New Fishing Destinations

54:05
Final Thoughts: Just Go and Enjoy the Outdoors

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Area/Topic
Asia, Japan, Languages, Adventure Travel with Kids

Laura Hagler
Senior Travel Specialist
Global Basecamps

Laura grew up in Missouri counting the days till she could set off and see the world. After jumping at the chance to study abroad in the UK and travel through Europe and Africa, she returned to Florida Atlantic University to complete her Sculpture degree.

Following her interest in Asian Art and heeding her ever growing wanderlust, she moved to rural Japan to live and work for the next five years. A passion for road tripping and mountains led her to explore and hike her way through the hidden corners of Japan, obsessing over museums, temples, and dodging the occasional monkey. Living in Asia was a dream come true and allowed her to dive with sharks in Sipadan, taste the finest street food in Yangon, celebrate New Years on the banks of the Ganga, and trade recipes with the local grandmas in Japan's onsen.

She loves to help her clients soak up the unique culture of the countries they visit. Talk to Laura about travel to Asia, Southeast Asia, Oceania and more.

https://www.globalbasecamps.com/

Summary
In this episode, Laura Hagler, a senior travel specialist with Global Basecamps, shares her journey to becoming a travel specialist and the joy she finds in planning and organizing trips. She emphasizes the importance of flexibility in traveling and encourages parents to continue exploring the world with their children. Laura also highlights the impact of travel on children's perspectives and shares some unexpected and memorable experiences she has had while traveling. Finally, she discusses the diverse and unique itineraries available in Japan and beyond. In this conversation, Laura Hagler shares insights and stories about traveling in Japan and the importance of learning languages. She discusses the diverse culture and hobbies in Japan, highlighting the passion and dedication of the Japanese people. Laura also addresses the topic of generational pressure and freedom in Japan, explaining that while there is some pressure to continue family traditions, younger generations have more freedom to choose their own paths. She touches on the education system in Japan and how historical events are taught, emphasizing the importance of looking forward while acknowledging the past. Laura concludes by encouraging listeners to pursue their passion for travel and to connect with others through common interests.

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Area/Topic
Kosovo, Trekking

Virtyt Gacaferri
CEO
Balkan Natural Adventure

Virtyt Gacaferri is the driving force behind Balkan Natural Adventure, an exhilarating hiking and trekking company that calls Kosovo home while serving the entire region. But this isn't just your typical adventure outfit. Virtyt's journey from being an ex-journalist, who once reported on the conflicts in the very region he now explores, is nothing short of remarkable.

With an undying passion for the mountains and a fierce commitment to environmental conservation, Virtyt's love for nature was instilled in him from a tender age. As a little boy, his father introduced him to the rugged beauty of the Accursed Mountains, and that was all it took to ignite a lifelong passion for adventure.

But Virtyt didn't embark on this incredible journey alone. He found an equally adventurous spirit in his business partner, Nol Krasniqi, and together, they've transformed their company into a major player in the region's adventure tourism scene. The energy and enthusiasm they bring to every expedition are infectious, making Balkan Natural Adventure a top choice for thrill-seekers looking to explore the breathtaking landscapes of the Balkans.

Virtyt Gacaferri's transformation from journalist to adventure trip provider is a testament to the power of pursuing one's passions. With every hike, trek, and exploration, Virtyt and his team not only provide unforgettable experiences but also strive to preserve the natural beauty that has captivated them since childhood. So, whether you're seeking a heart-pounding adventure or a deeper connection with the environment, Balkan Natural Adventure is your gateway to thrilling escapades in the stunning Balkans. Join Virtyt and his team for a journey that promises to leave you with memories that will last a lifetime!

https://bnadventure.com/

Summary
Virtyt Gacaferri, founder of Balkan Natural Adventures, shares his story and the appeal of the Accursed Mountains in the Balkans. He discusses the history and transformation of the region, the accessibility and duration of the trail, and the potential for combining the trip with other destinations. Virtyt also emphasizes the importance of sustainability and responsible tourism, and offers advice for adventure travelers. He highlights the need for cultural sensitivity and open-mindedness when visiting the Balkans, and recommends reading fiction books to gain a deeper understanding of the area.

Takeaways

• The Accursed Mountains in the Balkans offer a diverse and scenic trail that connects Kosovo, Montenegro, and Albania.
• Adventure travelers should prioritize sustainability and responsible tourism practices when visiting the region.
• Cultural sensitivity and open-mindedness are crucial when engaging with locals and discussing sensitive topics.
• Reading fiction books about the area can provide a deeper understanding of the culture and history of the Balkans.

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Area/Topic
Travel Industry Trends, Traveling with Kids

Dan Christian
Podcast Host, Travel Trends
Travel Trends Podcast with Dan Christian

Dan Christian is a highly respected travel industry executive & entrepreneur. Following the pandemic he wanted to create a new travel podcast that told the stories of travel’s return through the experiences of his outstanding travel colleagues, our clients, and the key industry leaders that are shaping the future of the Travel Industry.

https://www.traveltrendspodcast.com/

Summary

In this episode, host Jason Elkins interviews Dan Christian, host of the Travel Trends Podcast and founder of the Acceleration Team. They discuss Dan's journey into the travel industry, his passion for snowboarding and its connection to travel, and the importance of connection in adventure travel. Dan also shares personal stories about his family and the challenges he faced, as well as the value of traveling with kids. They discuss overcoming financial barriers to travel and how to prioritize travel in one's life. The episode concludes with information on how to connect with Dan and listen to the Travel Trends Podcast. In this conversation, the hosts discuss various topics related to travel and the travel industry. They emphasize the importance of visiting local markets when traveling to experience the culture and try new foods. They also introduce the Travel Trends Podcast, which aims to educate and inform people interested in the travel industry. The conversation highlights the opportunities available in the travel industry and how it can be a fulfilling career choice. Finally, they discuss the concept of life-changing adventures and how travel experiences can have a profound impact on people's lives.

Takeaways

• Travel can be a transformative experience that allows for personal growth and connection with others.
• Snowboarding and other adventure activities can spark a love for travel and exploration.
• Family support and personal experiences can shape one's career and passion for travel.
• Traveling with kids can create lasting memories and connections, and it is possible to find affordable travel options.

Chapters

00:00
Introduction

01:13
Dan's Story and Entry into the Travel Space

05:29
Snowboarding and the Connection to Travel

08:54
The Importance of Connection in Adventure Travel

09:24
The Influence of History on Dan's Career

11:21
Finding Strengths and Building a Team

15:06
Family and Personal Challenges

20:36
Taking Care of Family and Life Changes

23:56
Traveling with Kids and Creating Connections

31:49
The Value of Traveling with Kids

38:26
Overcoming Financial Barriers to Travel

43:37
Connecting with Dan and Travel Trends Podcast

45:57
The Importance of Markets in Travel

47:23
The Travel Trans Podcast

48:20
Creating Opportunities in the Travel Industry

49:48
Life-Changing Adventures

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Area/Topic
Western United States, Tourism Business, Career

Melissa Chiella
Director of Operations
Bindlestiff Tours

Melissa hails from the great state of New York. Growing up in Long Island & NYC she quickly developed an edge & pursued a Corporate Legal Career – thinking this was the path for her. However, in 2010 after an 8-year stint in law, she left the big apple in search of different dreams after a solo backpacking trip to Puerto Rico that shifted her direction in life.

Melissa fell in love with the Adventure Travel sector, leading her to find a passion driven career and exploring the globe – trekking the jungles of Africa to see the Gorillas to walking hundreds of miles across Spain on a pilgrimage to searching for the tastiest ceviche in South America.

She has never stopped pushing her limits since. For 12 years she was a front and back-country guide expanding her experience in over 25 of Canada's & America’s National Parks. She was also lead trainer and General Manager for an outdoor travel brand in California. Eventually, her heart was stolen by Alaska’s rising peaks, crisp mountain air, and creamy blue glacial pools, while guiding wilderness backpacking and packaneering for 5 years.

In the fall of 2020, during the Pandemic, she took her car with her bike in tow across the country and explored 16 new states on two wheels, while writing about mountain bike travel for her sponsors at Marin Bikes. She is a freelance travel & adventure writer, tying in all the things she has learned and loved over the years.

Melissa now calls the West Coast home, splitting her time between beautiful Lake Tahoe and the bright lights of Las Vegas. With decades of travel experience, hiking adventures, cultural exposure, and professional guiding – she looks forward to sharing her colorful experiences with guests and her staff.

Melissa is a certified Wilderness First Responder (WFR), California Naturalist, Swift Water 1 Rescue, Avalanche 2 Rescue (AIARE) and Lifeguard. 

"I can’t chase the American dream trading life for Money” – author unknown

http://www.bindlestifftours.com/

Summary

Melissa Chiella, Director of Operations with Bindelstiff Tours, discusses the challenges and rewards of working in the tourism industry. She shares insights into the day-to-day operations of a tour company and the demands of the job. Melissa also highlights the importance of shared experiences and the sense of community among adventure travel professionals. She discusses the impact of social media on tourism and the considerations for individuals interested in pursuing a career in the industry. Melissa also explains the concept of public itineraries and white labeling in the tourism business. In this conversation, Melissa discusses the role of tour operators and the value they bring to the travel industry. She emphasizes the importance of partnerships and leveraging the strengths of different companies. She encourages people to reach out and connect for partnerships and job opportunities. Finally, Melissa shares information about Bindlestiff's new trips and an upcoming solar eclipse tour in Texas.

Takeaways

• Working in the tourism industry can be mentally, physically, and emotionally demanding, but it offers unique and rewarding experiences.
• Tourism professionals need to be comfortable with uncertainty, long hours, and managing various responsibilities in real-time.
• Shared experiences and a sense of community are important aspects of working in adventure travel.

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Area/Topic
Montenegro, Western Balkans, Adventure Travel Guide Training

Hayley Wright
Owner/Operator
Black Mountain Montenegro

Inspired by adventurous parents and after journeying to and living in some of the world's colder places (including the North Pole and Siberia) Hayley turned a passion for adventure travel into a full time job as co-owner/ operator of an adventure travel business together with husband Jack in beautiful Montenegro. The destination is fast becoming known for its incredible mountain and coastal landscapes, rivers,lakes and canyons together with the melting pot of culture, warm Balkan hospitality and endless outdoor adventure opportunities. Working beyond borders throughout Montenegro and the Western Balkan region with a community of fantastic local guides and partners enables our guests to enjoy authentic and often transformational travel experiences, pushing their own boundaries in both physical challenges and cultural discoveries. Hayley is also a member of the Adventure Travel Guide Standard governance board, a framework of global standards of excellence for adventure travel guides and is  passionate about supporting adventure guiding as a serious and respected profession which provides sustainable stewardship for the places and people through whose lands we travel.

https://www.montenegroholiday.com/

Summary
Hayley Wright, the founder of Black Mountain Montenegro, shares her journey from working in the oil industry to becoming an adventure travel operator in Montenegro. She discusses the country's potential for adventure tourism and its unique geographical features, including its mountainous terrain and deep canyons. Hayley highlights the characteristics of Montenegrin people, their hospitality, and their pride in their culture and food. She also talks about the challenges and rewards of running a tourism business in Montenegro, as well as the importance of adventure travel guides and the Adventure Travel Guide Standard. In this conversation, Jason Elkins speaks with Hayley about adventure travel and the importance of creating wonderful experiences worldwide. They discuss the passion for adventure travel, building a community of adventure travel guides, exploring the Western Balkans, and the impact of creating memorable experiences around the world.

Takeaways

• Montenegro offers a unique adventure tourism experience with its mountainous terrain, deep canyons, and diverse cultural heritage.
• The Montenegrin people are known for their hospitality, genuine warmth, and pride in their culture and food.
• Adventure travel guides play a crucial role in providing safe and memorable experiences for travelers, and their profession should be recognized and supported.
• Montenegro's adventure tourism industry has grown significantly in recent years, offering activities such as hiking, kayaking, stand-up paddleboarding, and ski touring.
• Travelers should be prepared for a laid-back and relaxed lifestyle in Montenegro, where time is not a priority and enjoying life is valued. Adventure travel is a global phenomenon that brings people together and creates a sense of community.
• Building a community of adventure travel guides fosters collaboration and shared experiences.
• The Western Balkans, including Montenegro, Croatia, Albania, Serbia, Bosnia, and Macedonia, offer unique and exciting destinations for travelers.
• Creating wonderful experiences in different parts of the world helps make the world feel smaller and more connected.

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Area/Topic
Sweden, Fishing

Micke Nyberg
Owner & Head Guide
Anglerman Fishing Adventures

Micke hails from the genuine countryside and wilderness of Sweden, region Dalarna, in the community of Älvdalen. Operating as a professional guide since 2006, he's lead Anglerman fishing adventures since 2013.

Micke's committed to delivering fishing experiences to customers from all over the world, exposing guests to the culture, history, surroundings and nature, promoting sustainable tourism throughout the area. All packages are adapted depending on the customers’ wishes. Anglerman's mantra is “By fishermen, for fishermen” and they take pride in understanding what adventurous fishermen expect, and are eager to send them home with much more than a typical fishing trip. Micke and his team focus primarily on fly fishing in the summers, and ice fishing in the winter.

http://www.anglerman.se/

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Micke Nyberg, owner of Anglerman Fishing Adventures in Sweden. Micke shares his journey into fishing and how he became a fishing guide and adventure tour operator. He discusses the symbolism and experience of fishing, emphasizing the importance of showcasing the countryside and local culture to provide a meaningful experience for clients. Micke also talks about the surprises visitors often have about Sweden and the diverse techniques and enjoyment of ice fishing. He highlights the wilderness experience, including the possibility of seeing the Northern Lights, and the importance of safety and first aid in remote locations.

Takeaways

• Fishing can be a meaningful and symbolic experience, connecting people to nature and their own personal stories.
• When offering adventure tourism, it is important to showcase the local culture and countryside to provide a more immersive and authentic experience.
• Ice fishing can be a diverse and enjoyable activity, offering different techniques and stunning scenery.
• Safety and first aid are crucial in remote locations, and it is important for guides to be prepared and equipped to handle emergencies.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Ecuador, Galapagos, Andes, Amazon, Ecotourism

Paul Peralvo
Co-Founder
Amazing Ecuador DMC

From a young age, I embarked on explorations across Ecuador, reveling in exciting vacations at my grandparents' rural haven south of Quito.

Fond memories linger of long hours spent wandering fields at the foothills of the snow-capped Carihuairazo volcano, picking blackberries, and harvesting potatoes. Every Sunday, these treasures turned into shared family feasts, instilling in me a profound appreciation for our beautiful country.

Armed with an ecotourism degree from a local university in Quito, I deepened my connection to nature during a year in the Galapagos Islands. Upon my return, I ignited a 15-year-long career in the travel industry, a profession that fuels my passion.

Recently, I achieved a significant milestone by earning my MBA (Master Business Administration). Alongside my wife Belen and our delightful daughters, Victoria and Paula, I feel incredibly fortunate to share this journey in the fascinating world of travel.

https://amazingecuador.com.ec/

Summary

Paul Peralvo of Amazing Ecuador shares his journey in the tourism industry and highlights the unique experiences and connections that can be made in Ecuador. He emphasizes the importance of creativity and local connections in creating memorable trips. Paul also discusses the diverse gastronomy of Ecuador and the focus on sustainable practices. Amazing Ecuador offers tailor-made itineraries and works with travel agencies to provide authentic and immersive experiences for visitors.

Takeaways

• Ecuador offers diverse regions to explore, including the Galapagos Islands, the Amazon rainforest, the Andes mountains, and the Pacific coast.
• Local connections and interactions with indigenous communities are a highlight of travel in Ecuador.
• Ecuadorian gastronomy is a vibrant tapestry of indigenous traditions, colonial influences, and Afro-Ecuadorian heritage.
• Amazing Ecuador focuses on circular economy and sustainability, using local resources and supporting local communities.
• Tailor-made itineraries allow visitors to have unique and personalized experiences in Ecuador.

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Area/Topic
Greece, Diving, Sailing, Adventures

Stavros Makris
Co-founder
Bearing True South

Based in Athens, Greece, and with a background in Biology, Stavros has worked as a documentary photographer for newspapers, NGOs and media organisations across five continents.

Combining a passion for adventure with the curiosity his parents instilled in him from a very young age, it was almost impossible to stay put. Twenty years and over 80 countries later, he still finds himself addicted to travelling, amazed by the complexity of nature, the vast differences - and surprising similarities - of various cultures and the immense beauty of the natural world.

Along with Panagiotis, he founded Bearing True South early 2014.

https://www.bearingtruesouth.com/

Summary

Stavros Makris, co-founder of Bearing True South, shares his journey into tourism and the importance of cultural immersion. He discusses the challenges of being a documentary photographer and the realities of full-time travel. Stavros emphasizes the value of meeting new people and the responsibility of tour operators to provide authentic experiences. He also highlights the impact of social media on travel expectations and the importance of tailoring experiences to individual preferences. In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Stavros Makris discuss the value of conversation in the travel booking process. They highlight the benefits of video calls and personalized itineraries, as well as the importance of building relationships and word of mouth. They also emphasize the significance of packing light and being prepared, and the value of choosing the right tour operator. The conversation explores the importance of authentic experiences and provides recommendations for traveling to Greece. They discuss the concept of cultural immersion and share stories of miscommunication and cultural differences. Finally, they reflect on the quiet time before the quiet time, a time for meaningful connections and conversations with guests.

Takeaways

• Conversations are essential in the travel booking process as they allow for personalized itineraries and the opportunity to build relationships.
• Video calls can provide a relaxed and informal space to discuss travel preferences and create tailored experiences.
• Word of mouth and personal recommendations play a significant role in the travel industry.
• Packing light and being prepared can enhance the travel experience and allow for more flexibility.
• Choosing the right tour operator is crucial for a successful and enjoyable trip.
• Authentic experiences and cultural immersion can lead to memorable and meaningful travel experiences.
• Miscommunication and cultural differences can be learning opportunities and should be embraced with an open mind.
• Going with the flow and embracing authenticity can lead to unexpected and rewarding experiences.
• The quiet time before the quiet time is a valuable opportunity for meaningful connections and conversations with guests.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Worldwide, Fly Fishing, Adventure Travel

Jeremy Kehrein
Manager - Travel Sales
Orvis Adventures

Originally from the Driftless area of Wisconsin, Jeremy spent a lot of time trout fishing from an early age.  Once he became an experienced fly fisherman,  he made his way to South America for work so he could explore the opportunities in Patagonia.  Once back stateside, Jeremy eventually made his way to Montana as an outfitter and a guide. 

In 2012, he took a job with Orvis Adventures and has been lucky enough to fish multiple continents chasing a variety of species with Orvis Customers for over a decade.

https://www.orvis.com/adventures

Summary

In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Jeremy Kehrein discuss Jeremy's journey from teaching to becoming a fishing guide and leading group trips. They emphasize the importance of connections and shared experiences in adventure travel. They also touch on the perception of safety in different countries and the role of Orvis Adventures in promoting outdoor activities and conservation. The conversation concludes with a discussion on favorite food experiences while traveling. In this conversation, Jason Elkins concludes the podcast episode by thanking Jeremy for joining and expressing his excitement for future interviews. He encourages listeners to reach out to Jeremy for travel opportunities. Jason also recommends Jeremy as one of the best in the industry and expresses his gratitude for the knowledge shared. 

Takeaways

• Connections and shared experiences are a key aspect of adventure travel.
• Perceptions of safety in different countries can be influenced by media and personal experiences.
• Orvis Adventures promotes outdoor activities and conservation through its endorsement program and teaching initiatives.
• Trying local cuisine can be a memorable part of travel experiences. Consider reaching out to Jeremy for travel opportunities.
• Jeremy is highly recommended as one of the best in the industry.
• Express gratitude and appreciation for the knowledge shared.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Worldwide, Career, Culture, Group Travel

Yves Marceau
VP Product
G Adventures

Yves Marceau joined G Adventures in 2014, taking on the role of Vice President of Product in late-2017, after running the small group adventure company’s buying division for three years. Both roles place a heaving emphasis on sustainability, as G Adventures prefers to work with locally-owned suppliers in the more than 100 countries it travels to.

Yves has more than 20 years of experience in the travel and tourism industry; specifically, with non-profit organizations, in product and buying, and hospitality management.  Before starting at G Adventures he spent time working at Road Scholar, which was a natural step into travel given his prior 10 years spent in education as a history and French teacher.

Yves has travelled to more than 70 countries and to all continents except Antarctica, which could just be his next choice for a G Adventures tour. 

https://www.gadventures.com/

Summary
In this episode, Yves Marceau, Vice President of Product for G Adventures, shares his journey to adventure travel and the importance of curiosity and connection in the industry. He discusses the impact of travel on individuals and communities, and the characteristics of a good guide. Yves also provides advice for aspiring adventure travel guides and emphasizes the value of group dynamics in creating meaningful travel experiences. The conversation covers different types of adventure travel, G Adventures' target audience, the National Geographic partnership, the introduction of the Geluxe travel style, solo travelers and finding connections, and favorite travel experiences.

Takeaways

• Adventure travel is about getting outside of your comfort zone and connecting with people and places.
• Curiosity and a desire to explore are essential qualities for adventure travel guides.
• Adventure travel can have a positive impact on individuals and communities, fostering connections and understanding.
• The role of a guide is to create meaningful experiences and facilitate connections among travelers. Adventure travel can vary greatly, so it's important for travelers to understand their own preferences and find a company that aligns with their travel style.
• G Adventures attracts a diverse range of travelers, including solo travelers, couples, and families.
• The National Geographic partnership offers a more cerebral and culturally immersive travel experience.
• The Geluxe travel style provides upgraded accommodations and unique community connections.
• G Adventures offers opportunities for solo travelers to share accommodations and connect with like-minded individuals.
• Favorite travel experiences are often defined by the unique and memorable moments that travelers encounter.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Adventure Tourism, Family Business, Challenges & Rewards

Kasey Austin Morrissey
Head of Global Product & President USA
Austin Adventures & Active Adventures

Kasey was born in Alaska and raised in Montana. She graduated from the University of Montana, Missoula with a degree in Education. A member of the Austin family (Dan Austin’s daughter), Kasey grew up in the industry and has worked her way up doing just about every job in the company. She’s now the Head of the Product Team, ensuring Austin & Active’s product line-up is top notch and the Operations & Guide teams have what they need to deliver an amazing trip for our guests worldwide. There’s nothing that Kasey loves more than going on a hike with her husband, daughter, and dogs. But she also will try just about anything – skydiving, bungee jumping, paragliding, etc. – at least once!

https://austinadventures.com/

Summary
In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Kasey Austin Morrissey, the head of global product for Austin Adventures and Active Adventures. Kasey shares her background growing up in the adventure travel industry, as her father bought an adventure travel business when she was six years old. She talks about the challenges and perks of working in a family business, the impact on family life, and the risk involved in adventure travel. Kasey also discusses her husband's involvement in the business and the importance of balancing work and personal life. Kasey shares her experience of navigating the challenges brought by COVID-19 to her family's adventure travel business, Austin Adventures. She discusses the impact of the pandemic on the company, including the emotional toll it took on her family and the need to adapt and diversify. Kasey also talks about the decision to merge with Active Adventures and the benefits it brought, such as a better work-life balance and the ability to delegate and empower her team. She emphasizes the importance of in-person connections and the hope that adventure travel brings in a world that is becoming increasingly isolated.

Takeaways

• Growing up in the adventure travel industry can provide unique experiences and opportunities.
• Working in a family business means that work and personal life are often intertwined.
• Adventure travel involves both challenges and perks, including the risk associated with the industry.
• Balancing work and personal life is essential for maintaining a healthy lifestyle. The COVID-19 pandemic had a significant impact on the adventure travel industry, forcing businesses to adapt and diversify.
• Transitioning from a family business to a non-family business can provide opportunities for personal growth and a better work-life balance.
• Learning to delegate and empower the team is crucial for business success and personal well-being.
• Remote work presents both challenges and advantages, requiring new strategies for training and communication.
• In-person connections and the joy of discovering new experiences are the essence of adventure travel and provide hope in a world that is becoming increasingly isolated.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Sweden, Fishing, Tourism Business Development

Helen Lundgren
Founder & Administrator
Catch & Relax

I am married to my husband Bo, 2 daughters 22 and 17 and our dog Minnie.
Running Catch & Relax since 2005 and Business Improvement Consultants since 2002 and have my coaching Program Life On Your Terms for 1 year.

I live on an island in the Stockholm Archipelago and this life is what we want to share with our clients. I love nature adventures, creating adventure and experiences for our clients to create more balanced lives for people in my coaching business and help companies get better results through my consultant work.

I love fishing, boating, skiing, films, and books about personal development and my motto is "Obstacles are possibilities with thorns"

https://catchrelax.se/

Summary
Helen Lundgren shares her journey of starting Catch and Relax, a fishing tourism company in Stockholm Archipelago, Sweden. She discusses the unique geography and nature of Sweden, as well as the challenges and rewards of living on an island. Helen emphasizes the importance of mindset and taking control of one's life through entrepreneurship. She also highlights the potential of AI and technology in business and the impact of entrepreneurship on family dynamics. Helen's passion lies in helping others create their own businesses and live life on their own terms.

Takeaways

• Sweden's geography and nature offer diverse opportunities for tourism and outdoor activities.
• Entrepreneurship provides the freedom to live life on your own terms and create a balanced lifestyle.
• Mindset plays a crucial role in achieving success as an entrepreneur.
• Utilizing AI and technology can enhance business operations and create new opportunities.
• Entrepreneurship can have a positive impact on family dynamics and create a more balanced environment.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Africa

Julia Nesbitt
Director
African Safari Company

Julia’s summers as a child were spent exploring her grandparent’s farm in Zimbabwe, game parks throughout the region and visiting family in South Africa. These experiences shaped her more than she could have imagined, and in her early 20s she packed her bags and headed to Zambia to manage a camp in the South Luangwa Valley. After running the Africa department for another Seattle-based travel company for a few years, Julia re-joined African Safari Company as Director of Sales in 2011 and has been an integral part of the company ever since.

https://africansafarico.com/

Summary

Julia Nesbitt, the director of the African Safari Company, shares her background and love for Africa. She discusses the misconceptions about Africa and the importance of promoting the continent as a destination. Julia also talks about the challenges and joys of working in the tourism industry, as well as the importance of customization and making clients' dreams come true. She provides advice for those interested in pursuing a career in the travel industry and discusses the difference between a travel agent and a tour operator. Julia shares her favorite aspects of Africa and her ideal month-long trip in the continent. In this conversation, Julia Nesbitt shares her experiences and insights from her travels in Africa, specifically in Rwanda. She highlights the incredible wildlife experiences, including encounters with gorillas, golden monkeys, and chimpanzees. Julia also discusses the conservation efforts in Akagera National Park and the revitalization of parks across the continent by organizations like African Parks. She delves into the diverse and delicious African cuisine, emphasizing the quality of ingredients and regional specialties. Julia addresses concerns about security and safety in Africa, emphasizing the importance of using common sense and listening to local guides. Finally, she encourages listeners to empower themselves to travel and explore the world.

Takeaways

• Africa is a diverse and beautiful continent with unique wildlife and cultures.
• Working in the tourism industry requires a passion for travel and a desire to make clients' dreams come true.
• Customization and personalization are key in creating memorable travel experiences.
• Finding a good fit and having a strong network are important for success in the travel industry.
• Rwanda is a hidden gem in Africa, with a rich culture and beautiful landscapes. Rwanda offers incredible wildlife experiences, including gorilla trekking, golden monkey sightings, and chimpanzee encounters.
• Conservation organizations like African Parks are working to revitalize national parks in Africa, such as Akagera National Park in Rwanda.
• African cuisine is diverse and delicious, with regional specialties and high-quality ingredients.
• Security and safety in Africa can be ensured by using common sense, listening to local guides, and avoiding risky situations.
• Traveling is an empowering experience that allows individuals to expand their horizons and overcome fears.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Worldwide, Fly Fishing, Photography, Travel Writing

Jess McGlothlin
Freelance Photographer and Writer
Jess McGlothlin Media

Jess McGlothlin sees her mission as a simple one: tell stories. Working as a freelance photographer and writer in the outdoor industry, while on assignment in the past few years she’s learned how to throw spears at coconuts in French Polynesia, dodge saltwater crocodiles in Cuba, stand-up paddleboard down Peruvian Amazon tributaries and eat all manner of unidentifiable food.

She is a passionate writer and photographer who brings a unique, energetic perspective and approach to her work. Her written word is bright, bold, and honest. She’s worked with some of the largest brands in the outdoor sector, in roles ranging from staff copywriter to annual campaign photographer to marketing consultant.

Subject coverage ranges from Western rodeos to fly fishing far above the Arctic Circle in Russia. She has proven competence covering everything from international advertising campaigns to multi-day survival training sessions in remote, challenging environments to exploratory fishing trips. Her work has been featured in gallery shows from Germany to Israel, and she has received international awards / recognition for both her writing and photography.

Jess is available for contract, editorial, and assignment work, and is currently based in Missoula, Montana, USA. She's an FAA certified sUAS pilot, and has experience working in environments from the Wadi Rum to the Arctic.

https://www.jessmcglothlinmedia.com/

Summary

Jess McLaughlin, a freelance photographer and writer, shares her journey from equestrian to photography and writing. She discusses the power of words and images in storytelling and the importance of human connection in travel photography. Jess emphasizes the value of capturing candid moments and relatable experiences, as well as including people in lodge and travel photos. She also talks about the challenges of budget and timing in photography and the benefits and challenges of drone photography. Jess concludes by sharing her favorite part of the business: being able to choose her clients. In this conversation, Jason Elkins interviews Jess McGlothlin, a professional photographer specializing in outdoor and adventure travel. They discuss the importance of teaching guides to take better photos, the limitations of in-person teaching, and the value of good photos in enhancing the customer experience. They also explore how photos can be leveraged to generate reviews and promote businesses. Jess shares her insights on the challenges of running a photography business and the essential travel items she always carries. She concludes with advice for lodge operators on working with photographers.

Takeaways

• Teaching guides how to take better photos can enhance the customer experience and result in better tips for them.
• Photos can be leveraged to generate reviews and promote businesses.
• Running a photography business involves challenges such as managing expectations and invoicing.
• Essential travel items for a photographer include a battery bank for their phone and electrolytes for staying hydrated.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
South America, Destination Management, Career

Dalia Gibu
Regional Sales and Marketing Director
Abercrombie & Kent Latin America

Born and raised in Lima, with grandparents from Peru and from Okinawa.

Dalia always had a love for geography and arts. She studied Tourism management in Lima's San Martin University and afterwards two Master Degrees -one from the University of Alicante in Spain. She has over 20 years of experience in the fascinating field of tourism, including working in Mexico as a wedding planner for a five-star resort and later as Sales Manager for top luxury lodges and Amazon boats in Peru. She has been with A&K for over 13 years as their Regional Sales Director, but what she loves the most is creating new experiences along with her teams in Latin America. She is an adventurous traveler who loves hiking in the mountains, trying every local dish and new flavor and who loves blending with locals and more so if that involves music. In her free time, she loves singing, dancing and riding her bike around her hometown Lima.

https://www.akdmc.com/

Here the link to watch all the University videos (6) A&K South America University 2023 - 2024 | 15-Minute Instant-Expert Webinars | English - YouTube

Summary

In this episode, Dalia Gibu, the regional sales and marketing director for Abercrombie and Kent, Latin America, shares her journey in the adventure travel industry. She discusses her early interest in travel and hospitality, her passion for learning languages through music, and the impact of technology on language learning. Dahlia emphasizes the importance of different personalities in a team and the role of destination management companies (DMCs) in ensuring smooth operations and providing expert knowledge of the destination. She also introduces the University program, a series of webinars and informational sessions that educate travel agents and operators about South America. Dalia highlights the charm and resilience of Medellin, Colombia, and the generational perspective on travel and safety. In this conversation, Dalia Gibu shares her insights and experiences about Latin culture, dancing, and her passion for travel.  Dalia also highlights the beauty of South America and the experiences she recommends, such as hiking in El Chalten and exploring the culinary scene in Lima. She emphasizes the empowerment of women in the tourism industry and the positive impact they can make. Dalia concludes by discussing the diverse and delicious food experiences in Latin America, particularly in Lima, Buenos Aires, and Bogota.

Takeaways

• Learning languages through music can be an effective and enjoyable way to practice and improve language skills.
• The role of destination management companies (DMCs) is to provide expert knowledge of the destination, ensure smooth operations, and work closely with travel agents and operators.
• The University program by Abercrombie and Kent offers educational resources and inspiration for travel agents, operators, and anyone interested in learning more about South America.
• Medellin, Colombia, is a vibrant city with a resilient and welcoming community, offering a wide range of cultural, culinary, and natural experiences. Latin culture is rich and diverse, with a strong emphasis on dancing and community.
• South America offers a wide range of experiences, from hiking in El Chalten to exploring the culinary scene in Lima.
• Women play a significant role

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Area/Topic
New Zealand, Maori, Spirituality

Jean-Michel Jefferson
Owner
Ahipara Travel

Jean-Michel Jefferson is the founder and CEO of Ahipara Luxury Travel.  Educated at various schools in North Africa and the Middle East (son of a diplomat), then Rugby School, and the universities of Exeter and Sheffield, Jean-Michel spent 9 years with Price Waterhouse as a Management Consultant and Aviation Strategist in London and Moscow before ditching the corporate life and starting Ahipara in New Zealand.  He grew up with authentic and meaningful travel and this is what he enjoys creating for our clients.  He has mentored promising tour providers for a number of years and is always looking for a way to push boundaries, particularly with regard to transformational experiences.  Jean-Michel has a special interest in Maori culture and spirituality.

https://www.ahipara.com/

Summary

Jean-Michel Jefferson, owner of Ahipara Travel, shares his journey in the adventure tourism industry and the unique experiences his company offers in New Zealand. He emphasizes the importance of going deep in tourism, creating meaningful connections with local communities, and respecting indigenous cultures. Jean-Michel highlights the significance of Maori culture in New Zealand and the openness of the Maori people in sharing their stories. He also discusses the safety considerations and the advantages of both guided tours and independent travel in New Zealand. Overall, Jean-Michel's passion for creating authentic and immersive experiences shines through in this conversation.

Takeaways

• Going deep in tourism involves creating meaningful connections with local communities and respecting indigenous cultures.
• Maori culture plays a significant role in New Zealand, and the Maori people are open to sharing their stories and traditions.
• New Zealand offers a range of experiences, from helicopter tours to exploring off-the-beaten-path locations.
• Safety is a priority in New Zealand, and the country is known for its accessibility and ease of travel.

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Area/Topic
Chile, Chiloe Island

Cyril Christensen
Director
Chiloe Natural

Cyril is originally from Santiago de Chile. With a bilingual background he studied forestry and his first job was as a Park Ranger for the Chilean Forest Service. He then worked in the cruise industry as a Photographer and met his wife in the city of La Serena in Chile. Together they moved to the remote island of Chiloe as English teachers and offered experiences to visitors visiting their beloved country. Today, after a decade of running unique tours they run one of the most important tour operators in Chiloe focusing on local communities, nature, and sustainability.

https://www.chiloenatural.com/

Summary

Cyril Christensen, founder of Chiloe Natural, shares his passion for Chiloé Island and the unique experiences it offers. He discusses the history and significance of the wooden churches in Chiloé, which have been declared World Heritage sites by UNESCO. Cyril also highlights the adventure travel opportunities in Chiloé, including kayaking, horseback riding, and culinary experiences. He advises travelers to dress in layers due to the unpredictable weather in Chile and shares tips for dealing with insects in the area. Cyril emphasizes that Chiloé is a destination worth exploring and offers both guided and self-guided options for visitors.

Takeaways

• Chiloé Island is known for its wooden churches, which have been declared World Heritage sites by UNESCO.
• Chiloé offers a wide range of adventure travel opportunities, including kayaking, horseback riding, and culinary experiences.
• Travelers to Chiloé should be prepared for the unpredictable weather and dress in layers.
• Chiloé is a destination that can be explored independently or with the assistance of a tour operator.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Southeast Asia, Vietnam, Myanmar, Thailand

Elodie Courzadet
Senior Business Development Manager
Vivu Journeys part of TMG

Hi ! My name is Elodie. I was born and raised in France, got a BA in foreign applied languages and a Master’s degree in tourism management.

Having difficulties finding a job in the tourism industry right after uni, I decided to look for something in Asia and left a few months later (I did an internship in Thailand prior to that so I thought this could be a pretty decent place to live in!).

I dedicated myself to Destination Management Companies (DMC) and spent many years in Asia working for several companies in Thailand and in Myanmar. I started in the leisure side of the business for the French market before moving into the corporate side. I specialized myself into incentives’ spaces for different markets such as the Australian one.

After nearly 10 years in Asia, I took a break to explore the world for most of 2019. Far away from Asia, I discovered Mexico, Belize and Guatemala for the last piece of the trip and this was just extraordinary. I returned to France with a job in hand and happily started working for Vivu Journeys DMC, part of TMG group, in a purely commercial role.

Initially, I was responsible for business development for the French-speaking markets for Vivu Journeys. Today, I am not only working on the DMC part of TMG but I also support all the assets of the group such as hotels, cruises just to name a few.

https://tmgroup.vn/

Summary

Elodie Courzadet, a travel industry professional, shares her experiences working for Vivo Journeys, a Destination Management Company (DMC) in Asia. She discusses the role of DMCs in the travel industry and the importance of building relationships with tour operators and travel agents. Elodie also reflects on her personal journey and connection with Asia, as well as the challenges and cultural differences she encountered while working abroad. She emphasizes the need for trust, connection, and collaboration in the workplace, and highlights the desire of French travelers for unique and local experiences. Elodie concludes by discussing the impact of COVID-19 on the travel industry and the future of travel in Asia.

Takeaways

• Destination Management Companies (DMCs) play a crucial role in the travel industry, working with tour operators and travel agents to create unique and tailored experiences for travelers.
• Building trust, connection, and collaboration are essential in the workplace, especially when working with local teams and tour operators in different countries.
• French travelers have a strong desire for unique and local experiences, and value immersion in the local culture and interaction with locals.
• The COVID-19 pandemic has had a significant impact on the travel industry, but there is optimism for the future as travel gradually resumes and safety measures are implemented.
• The need for connection and interaction has become even more important in a post-pandemic world, and travelers are seeking meaningful experiences and connections with locals.

Learn more about Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Marketing and join our private community to get episode updates, special access to our guests, and exclusive adventure travel offers at bigworldmadesmall.com.

Area/Topic
Patagonia, Fly Fishing

Pablo Negri Edwards
Associate Director
Palatine by Viajes Temixco

With over three decades of professional luxury travel experience, I hold a BA degree and an MBA in International Business.

I'm a well-known ecologist, active conservationist, fly fisherman, high-seas sailboat captain, and professional photographer, with top-notch expertise in Patagonia.

Former world-famous Nomads of the Seas, Sales and Marketing Director - since it launched, and over a decade - I hosted two well-known fly fishing + sustainable tourism TV shows (ESPN and later FOX Sports) for years.

I joined Palatine by Viajes Temixco, over 6 years up to date.

http://www.viajestemixco.com/

Summary

In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Pablo Negri Edwards, the Associate Director of Palatine by Viajes Temixco. They discuss Pablo's background in hospitality and fly fishing, his current work in luxury travel, and his experiences with Nomads of the Seas in Chile. Pablo shares his passion for fly fishing and the joy he finds in creating tailor-made trips for clients. They also touch on the beauty of fishing in Chile and the impact of Nomads of the Seas on the fishing industry in the country. In this part of the conversation, Pablo Negri Edwards discusses his love for Montana and the beauty of nature. He also talks about fly fishing as an art and a way of life, emphasizing the importance of enjoying every moment. Pablo shares his passion for photography and the role it plays in capturing experiences. He explains that luxury is not about expensive commodities but about creating unique and memorable experiences. Finally, he discusses the benefits of artificial intelligence in the travel industry and his work in headhunting for the tourism sector. In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Pablo Negri Edwards discuss the value of hiring a guide, their experiences living and fishing in Montana, the connections they've made in the fishing community, and the best fishing spots in Chile. They also mention the opportunity to book fishing trips with Pablo.

Takeaways

• Pablo has a background in hospitality and grew up in a hotel in Chile.
• He is currently working in luxury travel, organizing tailor-made trips for clients.
• Pablo is passionate about fly fishing and has extensive experience in the industry.
• Nomads of the Seas, a fishing operation in Chile, had a significant impact on the fishing industry in the country. Montana offers breathtaking natural beauty and is a favorite destination for Pablo Negri Edwards.
• Fly fishing is more than a sport; it is an art and a way of life that allows for a deeper connection with nature.
• Luxury is not about expensive commodities but about creating unique and memorable experiences.
• Photography is a powerful tool for capturing and preserving memories.
• Artificial intelligence can enhance the travel industry by providing personalized recommendations and streamlining processes.
• Headhunting plays a crucial role in finding the right talent for the tourism industry. Hiring a guide can greatly enhance the fishing experience and provide a different perspective.
• Montana offers excellent fishing opportunities and has a tight-knit fishing community.
• The fishing world is small, and connections can lead to unexpected opportunities.
• Pablo Negri Edwards is a knowledgeable resource for booking fishing trips in Chile and other locations.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Luxury Travel Trends, Remote Bespoke Camps

Sam Bradley
Finance and Operations Director
Cookson Adventures

Sam is a travel and adventure enthusiast. He works for Cookson Adventures organising luxury holidays to remote parts of the world, and most of his spare time is spent travel writing for various websites and magazines. He's a devoted husband and dad to three mischievous daughters, and his hobbies include sport, being part of his local church, and more travelling if possible.

https://cooksonadventures.com/

Summary
Sam Bradley, the Finance and Operations Director for Cookson Adventures, shares his journey in the adventure travel industry and the challenges and rewards of balancing work and family life. He discusses the importance of flexibility and the behind-the-scenes work that goes into creating memorable experiences for clients. Sam also highlights the shift to remote work in the travel industry and offers advice for those interested in pursuing a career in adventure travel. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the value of adventure travel and the joy of sharing these experiences with loved ones.

Takeaways

• Balancing work and family life in the adventure travel industry requires flexibility and effective communication.
• The behind-the-scenes work of guides and operators often goes unnoticed by clients, but it is crucial for creating memorable experiences.
• The shift to remote work in the travel industry has allowed for more flexibility and diverse team dynamics.
• Getting into the travel industry requires networking, starting in entry-level positions, and seeking opportunities with reputable companies.

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Area/Topic
Sweden, Fishing, Spirituality, Sami People

Per Jobs
Owner/CEO
Fish Your Dream

Per Jobs is the jazz composer with a fishing passion that almost 20 years ago turned his love of nature into a full time business. While operating lodges on several locations in Sweden, he tries to push the boundaries of sustainable tourism and conservation of the fisheries, local people and nature. While having fun.

https://fishyourdream.com/

Summary
Per Jobs, owner and CEO of Fish Your Dream in Sweden, shares his experiences in operating fishing lodges and offering winter activities. He discusses the challenges and benefits of operating lodges in different seasons and the importance of conservation efforts. Per also reflects on his childhood and love for nature, as well as his passion for music and creativity. He highlights the connection between fly fishing and music, emphasizing the importance of curiosity and education in the tourism industry. In this conversation, Per Jobs discusses the importance of conservation and sustainability in the context of adventure travel. He also talks about his partnership with indigenous peoples, specifically the Sami community in Sweden, and the impact of a high court verdict on hunting and fishing rights. Per shares how his company has found a way to benefit nature and connect with the Sami community through a mutually beneficial agreement. He highlights the challenges of uncontrolled tourism and the need for better organization. The conversation also touches on the management of fishing resources and the overview of the Sami people. Per emphasizes the importance of understanding different cultures and solving problems in adventure travel.

Takeaways

• Operating lodges in different seasons allows for year-round operations and provides opportunities for diverse activities.
• Curiosity and a passion for nature are common traits among adventure tour operators.
• Fly fishing offers a unique experience of being in the present moment and fosters a connection with nature.
• Conservation efforts and educating guests about the environment are crucial for sustainable tourism.
• The connection between music and fly fishing lies in the creativity and focus required for both activities. Conservation and sustainability are crucial in adventure travel to protect natural resources and support local communities.
• Partnerships with indigenous peoples can lead to mutually beneficial agreements that benefit nature and preserve cultural heritage.
• High court verdicts can have significant impacts on hunting and fishing rights, leading to conflicts and changes in resource management.
• Uncontrolled tourism can lead to pollution and conflicts in natural areas, highlighting the need for better organization and management.
• Understanding different cultures and long-term perspectives on land management can enhance the adventure travel experience and promote sustainability.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Guide Stories

Kaitlyn Shinney & Lainie Reisman
Adventure Guides
Adventures in Good Company

Kaitlyn lives just south of Boston along the ocean with her husband and rescue pup GoodGirl. She first became part of the AGC family in 2007 with backpacking the Grand Canyon, Northern Cascades, Kilimanjaro and Greece. She was hired in 2017 and led trips to Acadia, Martha’s Vineyard & Nantucket, Newport RI, Vermont, Adirondacks, Utah, Montana, Virginia, Georgia, Minnesota, Wyoming, U.S.V.I., Ireland, and Portugal to name a few. Her friends and family love when she returns from a trip and talks about all the inspirational women she met.

Kaitlyn is an 18 year Professional Firefighter Paramedic with a Masters in Public Administration and Emergency Management as well as a certificate in Labor Studies.

Love of the ocean, kite surfing, hiking, camping, cooking and attending the theater making lifelong memories collecting passport stamps.

Kaitlyn just returned from stunning safaris in Sri Lanka and sunrise over Mount Everest at 18,500 ft.

2024 will start with an AGC trip snorkeling & kayaking the Paradise Islands in Belize learning about the flora and fauna that inhabit this unspoiled marine environment. Then exploring inland Belize including world class birding, lagoons, waterways, and a Mayan ruin.

She hopes to check the Galapagos and her final continent Antarctica off her bucket list sooner than later.

Lainie currently lives in Washington D.C. with her husband, two teenagers, and two adopted street dogs. She has spent most of her adult life overseas (UK, Papua New Guinea, Guatemala, Kenya, Turkey, and Mexico) so is a very seasoned international traveler and adventurer.

When not guiding hiking trips, Lainie continues to work on international aid programs (thus the living overseas!), specializing in youth violence prevention.

Lainie loves meeting new people and learning about their diverse experiences, and is an avid hiker, having done many of the AGC itineraries on her own over the years (e.g. Kilimanjaro, Everest Base Camp, etc.). She recently summited a pair of 19,000 foot peaks in Peru with her 18 year-old son (and they got matching tattoos, a first for both!).

She started guiding with founder Marian Marbury close to 20 years ago after writing her an impassioned 10-page letter (this was before email of course) and has been hooked ever since!

https://www.adventuresingoodcompany.com/

Summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, Jason Elkins interviews Lainie Reisman and Kaitlyn Shinney from Adventures in Good Company. They discuss their personal journeys into adventure travel and the impact it has on participants. They also explore the unique dynamics of women's only groups and the power of connection. The conversation concludes with an overview of the various trips offered by Adventures in Good Company. In this conversation, Kaitlyn and Lainie from Adventures in Good Company discuss the unique trips and experiences they offer. They highlight a winter adventure in Minnesota, where participants can enjoy dog sledding, cross-country skiing, snowshoeing, and hiking. They emphasize the thorough planning and organization of their trips, ensuring that participants have all the necessary information and equipment. The conversation also touches on the importance of empowering women to be present and enjoy the moment without worrying about the details. Kaitlyn shares her passion for adventure and the unique com

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Tuk-Tuk Adventure Travel, Challenge Travel

Julian Carnall
Co-founder
Large Minority Ltd

Born and raised in Kenya, Julian began travelling at a very young age and has never looked back.  He has always harboured a great fascination for discovery, and it was while in the early years of his career that he discovered his true passion - adventure travel.  This led to Julian co-founding his own adventure travel company, Large Minority, in 2009 which he has been running ever since.

Large Minority provides adventure experiences across Asia, South America and most recently Europe! Most of their adventures use the humble tuk-tuk, or auto-rickshaw, as a platform for adventure, allowing participants to immerse themselves in the destination from behind the handlebars of one of the most versatile vehicles known to man. Whatever the destination, Large Minority adventure challenges are sure to quench the thirst of adventure seekers by getting them off the beaten path, pushing their comfort boundaries and guaranteeing an adventure like no other.

Julian is also extremely passionate about making positive difference within the travel industry and giving back has always been a very big part of everything he does. In his spare time, he loves climbing the odd mountain, riding motorbikes and, when possible, simply heading out into the bush.

https://www.largeminority.travel/

Summary
Julian Carnall, co-founder of Large Minority, discusses the unique travel experience offered by Tuk Tuk Adventures. He shares his background growing up in Kenya and how his love for travel and exploration led him to start the company. Julian explains the process of learning to drive a Tuk Tuk and the challenges involved. He also highlights the benefits of traveling in a Tuk Tuk, including the access it provides to remote areas and the interactions with locals. Julian discusses the legalities and licensing requirements for Tuk Tuk Adventures and how interested individuals can rent a Tuk Tuk. He emphasizes the responsible tourism aspect of their trips and the challenges they incorporate to immerse participants in the local culture. Julian describes the types of participants they attract, including solo travelers, couples, families, and groups of friends. Finally, he shares the journey of developing Large Minority and Tuk Tuk Adventures, from the initial idea to the present day. Julian Carnall, the founder of Tuk Tuk Adventures, shares his experiences and insights into running a unique tourism business. From the chaotic first adventure to the joy of creating memorable trips, Julian discusses the challenges and rewards of his work. He also talks about the importance of differentiating your product in a crowded market and the value of direct experiences with locally owned and operated businesses. Julian shares exciting plans for future destinations, including Italy and Pakistan. He addresses the misconceptions about visiting Pakistan and highlights the stunning beauty of the areas they explore. Overall, Julian's passion for tuk tuk adventures shines through as he encourages listeners to embrace new experiences and appreciate the wonders of the world.

Takeaways

• Tuk Tuk Adventures offer a unique and immersive travel experience, allowing participants to explore remote areas and interact with locals.
• Learning to drive a Tuk Tuk can be challenging but rewarding, and it provides access to places that larger vehicles cannot reach.
• Renting a Tuk Tuk and embarking on a self-guided adventure is possible in many coun

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Area/Topic
Jordan, Mixing Culture & Adventure

Bader Abdel Jawad
Founder
B Adventure

Meet Bader, the adventurous soul behind B Adventure, a true explorer with an unquenchable thirst for the extraordinary. Bader's deep love for creating personalized journeys in Jordan, combined with a heartfelt connection to the country's hidden gems, is nothing short of heartwarming. With a genuine commitment to sustainability and a heartfelt mission to reveal the safe, welcoming, and breathtakingly beautiful side of Jordan, my team and I are on a mission to make the world better through adventure tourism.

https://badventure.net/

Summary
Bader Abdel Jawad, founder of B Adventure, shares his journey into adventure travel and the importance of pursuing a career that brings joy. He discusses the challenges of societal expectations and the support he received from his family. Bader emphasizes the importance of inspiring children to follow their dreams and create a life they enjoy. He also addresses safety concerns in the Middle East and highlights Jordan as a safe and welcoming destination. Bader emphasizes the shared humanity among people from different cultures and the need to challenge preconceived ideas. In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Bader discuss the power of travel and the importance of experiencing different cultures firsthand. They also explore the lesser-known attractions in Jordan, beyond the popular sites of Petra and Wadi Rum. From the hidden gems of Eastern Jordan to the highlights of Western Jordan, they highlight the diverse landscapes and historical sites that the country has to offer. They also delve into the thrilling activity of canyoning and the safety measures taken during such adventures. Ultimately, they emphasize that Jordan is a destination for everyone, with something to offer for all types of travelers.

Takeaways

• Follow your passion and pursue a career that brings you joy.
• Inspire children to follow their dreams and create a life they enjoy.
• Challenge preconceived ideas and stereotypes about different cultures and destinations.
• Focus on the shared humanity among people from different backgrounds.

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Area/Topic
Guatemala, Bicycling & Trekking

Matt Hartell
Owner, Lead Guide
Old Town Outfitters

Matt originally from North Carolina moved to Antigua, Guatemala in the late 90's after a brief visit to Guatemala.  Drawn by the vibrance, color, history and seemingly endless singletrack, he Knew Guatemala was the place that needed to be explored more deeply.  He packed up the car, drove down and hung a shingle on the wall, and the rest is history.  Old Town Outfitters has grown to become the top adventure travel operator in Guatemala.

https://adventureguatemala.com/

Summary
Matt Hartell from Old Town Outfitters in Antigua, Guatemala shares his journey of starting a tourism business and the growth of adventure tourism in the region. He discusses the changing landscape of travelers in Antigua and the importance of embracing adventure and spontaneity while traveling. Matt highlights the unique cultural experiences and diverse landscapes that Guatemala offers, including the Acatenango Volcano trip and mountain biking tours. He encourages travelers to explore beyond Antigua and immerse themselves in the rich culture and natural beauty of Guatemala.

Takeaways

• Embrace adventure and spontaneity while traveling
• Guatemala offers diverse landscapes and cultural experiences
• Explore beyond Antigua to fully experience Guatemala
• Language barriers should not hold you back from traveling

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Climbing, Personal Discovery

Oliver Browne
Founder
True Summit Adventures

Professional guide, adventurer and coffee lover.
I am the founder of True Summit Adventures and I love travelling - typically to high mountain arenas but I am up for all sorts of adventures - in January I rowed the Atlantic.

https://www.truesummitadventures.com/

Summary
Oliver Browne from True Summit Adventures discusses mountain climbing and adventure travel. He talks about his experiences in Albania and the potential for backcountry and heliskiing. Oliver shares his journey from being a professional polo player to becoming an adventurer and mountaineer. He discusses the lessons he learned from rowing across the Atlantic and the importance of preparation and coaching. Oliver recommends climbing Mount Kilimanjaro as a great adventure for people of various ages and abilities. In this conversation, Oliver discusses the importance of giving yourself ample time to prepare for mountaineering expeditions. He emphasizes the need for consistency and patience in training, as well as the importance of finding the right people to climb with. He advises against trying to talk someone into going on an expedition if they are not already driven to do it. He also provides insights into finding reputable operators and the ethical considerations in adventure tourism.

Takeaways

• Albania is becoming known for backcountry and heliskiing due to its pristine mountains and lack of infrastructure.
• Adventures like rowing across the Atlantic provide opportunities to learn about oneself and develop confidence.
• Preparation and coaching are key to success in adventure sports.
• Climbing Mount Kilimanjaro is a highly recommended adventure for people of various ages and abilities. Give yourself enough time to prepare for mountaineering expeditions, but not too much time that you lose interest or get distracted.
• Consistency and patience are key ingredients in training for mountaineering.
• It's important to find the right people to climb with, especially if it's a family member or close relationship.
• Don't try to talk someone into going on an expedition if they are not already driven to do it.
• When choosing an operator, try to speak directly with the expedition guide or outfitter to ensure they adhere to ethical and sustainable practices in adventure tourism.

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Area/Topic
New Zealand, Nomadic Lifestyle, Travel Writing

Lisa Jansen
Modern-Day Nomad & Writer
Life Done Differently

Lisa Jansen is a writer and digital nomad based in beautiful New Zealand. She spent almost five years travelling full-time in her RV, meeting amazing people, challenging society's norms and exploring the great outdoors of New Zealand. Lisa shares her journey in her latest book, Life Done Differently: One Woman's Journey on the Road Less Travelled.

https://www.lifedonedifferently.com/

Summary
Lisa Jansen, a digital nomad and author, shares her journey of reimagining her life and traveling around New Zealand. She initially came to New Zealand for a study abroad program but ended up staying and pursuing a career in marketing. However, at the age of 33, she started questioning her path and decided to take a summer off to travel in a camper van. This summer adventure turned into six years of traveling around New Zealand. Lisa emphasizes the importance of doing what makes you happy and not conforming to societal expectations. She also discusses the challenges of forming connections and community as a nomad. Lisa discusses her experience of writing books while living in a van and traveling in New Zealand. She talks about the value of time and clarity that she gained from van life. She also discusses her books, 'One Size Does Not Fit All' and 'Life Done Differently,' which emphasize the importance of understanding oneself and building a life plan based on personal happiness. Lisa highlights the uniqueness of individuals and the need to accept and embrace different desires and needs. She also provides travel recommendations for exploring New Zealand.

Takeaways

• Don't be afraid to question your path and explore alternative lifestyles.
• Start small and test the waters before committing to a long-term nomadic lifestyle.
• Forming connections and community can be challenging as a nomad, but there are opportunities to connect with like-minded individuals.
• Do what makes you happy and don't feel pressured to conform to societal expectations. Living in a van and traveling can provide valuable time and clarity for self-reflection and personal growth.
• Understanding oneself and building a life plan based on personal happiness is more important than following generic societal expectations.
• Accepting and embracing individuality and different desires and needs is crucial for personal fulfillment.
• New Zealand offers diverse natural landscapes and experiences, making it an ideal destination for adventure travel and exploration.

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Area/Topic
South Africa, Hot Air Ballooning

Dale de Klerk
CEO
Bill Harrop's Original Balloon Safaris

Dale de Klerk is a passionate aviator!

Having developed an interest in aviation at the age of 7 he has not stopped learning, embracing new opportunities and …becoming fully involved in all aspects of aviation from hang gliding, microlights, gliders, power flying, paragliding and holding ratings for over 140 types of aircraft it was merely a matter of time before he found himself in a hot air balloon!

Dale’s passion for flying led him to build, develop and grow his successful flying school Alpi Aviation. When the opportunity as CEO arose in Bill Harrop’s “Original” Balloon Safaris, he knew that this was his next adventure in aviation. He stepped up right away with passion and excitement and, as was predicted by all who knew him, he immediately committed to start gaining his hot air balloon licence!

In his spare time, he enjoys spending time with “the best thing that ever happened to him”, his lovely wife Maggie! Together they have travelled to all corners of the globe, including North America, Europe and Africa.

His 3 greatest aspirations are to fill Bill’s shoes as best he can and continue to make the company a huge success, to provide an unforgettable experience to all of our passengers and guests, and to obtain his hot air balloon pilot’s license.

https://balloon.co.za/

Summary
Dale de Klerk, from Bill Harrop's Original Balloon Safaris, shares his journey in aviation and how he got involved in ballooning. He grew up with a passion for flying, starting with model airplanes and hang gliding. Eventually, he became a glider pilot, flew in the Air Force, and became a fixed-wing pilot and instructor. After the owner of Bill Harrop's Original Balloon Safaris passed away, Dale and his wife took over the company. They now have a team of experienced balloon pilots and offer balloon rides in South Africa. The conversation also touches on the history of ballooning and the tradition of serving champagne after a balloon flight. Bill Harrop's Original Balloon Safaris is the first commercial balloon operation in Africa and possibly the southern hemisphere. They offer balloon flights in the Machaliz Valley, which is known for its beautiful landscapes and wildlife. The company caters to both local South Africans and foreign tourists, with a focus on adventure seekers. They have a range of balloon sizes to accommodate different group sizes and weight limits. Safety is a top priority, and flights may be canceled if weather conditions are not suitable. Passengers are encouraged to arrive early to witness the balloon inflation process and feel more at ease. Ballooning in South Africa offers a unique and breathtaking experience.

Takeaways

• Dale de Klerk grew up with a passion for flying and pursued various aviation activities, including model airplanes, hang gliding, glider piloting, and fixed-wing flying.
• After the owner of Bill Harrop's Original Balloon Safaris passed away, Dale and his wife took over the company and now offer balloon rides in South Africa.
• To fly commercially in a hot air balloon, pilots need to obtain a hot air balloon private pilot license and accumulate a minimum of 100 hours of piloting command.
• Ballooning requires monitoring weather conditions and wind currents to navigate, as balloons cannot be steered directly.
• The tradition of serving champagne after a balloon flight originated with the Montgolfier brothers, who used it as a gesture of goodwill w

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Area/Topic
Chile, Bicycling

Fernando Padilla
Co-Founder
Cicloaustral Chile

Fernando, is 34 years old. He was studying Ecotourism when he started Cicloaustral as a school project for a marketing and entrepreneurship class, and now runs one of the most respected cycling tourism companies in the Chilean Patagonia. In 2012 he traveled 2.200 km by bicycle in the Carretera Austral route, and fell in love with the area's natural environment and people. His trip inspired him to design a comprehensive self-guided trip that includes rental bikes, support services, and a detailed itinerary, in addition to their very popular fully guided tours. Fernando is currently living in Japan, studying for his Masters degree in Tourism and Hospitality Ritsumeikan Asia Pacific University. Among other things, he's working to understand cycling tourism and the impact it has both on participants and the local communities. To date, he's ridden more than 1.000 km while exploring cycling destinations in Japan.

https://www.cicloaustralchile.com/

Summary
Fernando Padilla, founder of Cicloaustral, discusses the transformative experience of cycling in Patagonia's Carretera Austral. He highlights the collaboration with local communities and the slow tourism concept. The route offers a challenging yet controlled adventure, allowing travelers to connect with nature, culture, and themselves. Fernando also mentions the potential for e-bikes in the future and the importance of sustainability in cycling tourism.

Takeaways

• Cicloaustral offers a transformative experience of cycling in Patagonia's Carretera Austral, connecting travelers with nature, culture, and themselves.
• The route is challenging yet controlled, allowing individuals to push their limits and experience personal growth.
• Collaboration with local communities is essential to provide logistics and interpretation of the destination.
• Cycling tourism in Patagonia promotes slow tourism, enabling travelers to fully immerse themselves in the landscape and connect with locals.
• The potential for e-bikes in the future may make cycling more accessible and sustainable.
• Cycling in Patagonia contributes to the local economy and fosters a positive relationship between cyclists and the community.

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Area/Topic
Ecuador, Galapagos, Luxury Cruising

Fernando Diez
Marketing Director
Quasar Expeditions

Born and raised amidst the natural wonders of the Galapagos Islands, Fernando Diez is a proud Ecuadorian who has dedicated his adult life to sharing the unique beauty and rare wildlife of this enchanting archipelago with adventurous travelers from every corner of the globe.

Fernando is the proud son of the founders of Quasar Expeditions, a high-end expedition cruising company that pioneered small group travel in the Galapagos Islands 38 years ago. His parents dream? To show this precious eco system to the world, ensuring its preservation for future generations through responsible tourism.

Beyond his role as the head of Marketing at Quasar Expeditions, Fernando is loving father of 3, a proud husband and a man of many passions. He is a skilled photographer, an avid scuba diver, a high-altitude climber and overall just a lover of nature and the outdoors.

A natural storyteller at heart, Fernando has an ability to bring the stories of this unique archipelago to life, connecting listeners with the magic of the place that possessed Charles Darwin's mind.

https://www.quasarex.com/galapagos

Summary
Fernando Diez, Marketing Director for Quasar Expeditions, shares the story of how his parents founded the company and their love for the Galapagos Islands. Quasar Expeditions offers high-end yacht expeditions in the Galapagos, with a focus on small group exploration and intimate experiences with nature. The company is known for restoring vintage yachts and providing a sense of charm and elegance in the Galapagos. Fernando discusses the challenges of running a tourism operation in a remote destination, including logistics, crew management, and maintaining a positive work environment. He emphasizes the importance of selecting the right crew members and creating a strong team dynamic. In this conversation, Fernando discusses the behind-the-scenes challenges of running an adventure travel business and the impact it has on personal relationships. He emphasizes the importance of sustainable and responsible tourism in preserving destinations like the Galapagos. Fernando also shares his perspective on the involvement of family members in the business and the need for succession planning. He encourages travelers to research and support companies that prioritize environmental and community initiatives.

Takeaways

• Quasar Expeditions offers high-end yacht expeditions in the Galapagos Islands, focusing on small group exploration and intimate experiences with nature.
• The company is known for restoring vintage yachts and providing a sense of charm and elegance in the Galapagos.
• Running a tourism operation in a remote destination like the Galapagos comes with challenges, including logistics, crew management, and maintaining a positive work environment.
• Selecting the right crew members and creating a strong team dynamic is crucial for the success of the operation.
• The leadership of the captain plays a significant role in creating a cohesive and harmonious crew.
• Quasar Expeditions prioritizes small group sizes and intimate experiences to minimize the impact on the fragile visitor sites in the Galapagos. Running an adventure travel business involves behind-the-scenes challenges that may not be apparent to guests.
• Sustainable and responsible tourism is crucial for preserving destinations like the Galapagos.
• Family members in the travel industry often face unique ch

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Area/Topic
Canada, BC, Paddleboarding

Pamela Martin
Owner
Blue Jellyfish SUP Adventures

Pam tried paddleboarding for the first time in 2010 and fell in love! She is now is a certified Paddle Canada SUP Basic & Advanced Flatwater Instructor, as well as a Coastal Touring 1 Instructor.

​Pam studied Marine Biology at the University of Guelph & Commercial Photography at Sheridan College. Her love of the water has led her to many aquatic pursuits - canoeing as a child, competitive sailing, sprint canoe/kayak racing and long-distance Outrigger Canoe racing before discovering the sport of Stand Up Paddleboarding.

https://www.bluejellyfishsup.ca/

Summary
Pam Martin from Blue Jellyfish Stand Up Paddle Board Tours shares her journey in the adventure tourism industry. She has always been drawn to the water and pursued a career in marine biology. After discovering stand-up paddleboarding, she started incorporating it into her tours and adventures. When her business partner had to step away due to illness, Pam focused more on lessons and courses, but now she is bringing back the culinary and music components. She plans to expand her business to warm destinations like Costa Rica and Ireland, where she has already explored and paddled. The food scene in Ireland has evolved to include healthy farm-to-table options, and there is a strong emphasis on community and connection. In this conversation, Pam discusses the different types of paddleboards and their pros and cons. She explains that inflatable paddleboards are not a gimmick and that high-quality inflatables can feel just as solid as hardboards. Pam also mentions that inflatables are a great option for those who don't have storage space for a hardboard and are easy to travel with. She emphasizes that paddleboarding is a sport that can be enjoyed by people of all ages and fitness levels, and that it offers a low-impact workout that engages the core. Pam encourages people to give it a try and experience the magic of being out on the water.

Takeaways

• Pam Martin's love for the water and the outdoors led her to pursue a career in adventure tourism, specifically in stand-up paddleboarding.
• She values the connection and community that can be created through adventure tourism experiences.
• After her business partner had to step away, Pam shifted her focus to lessons and courses, but she is now reintroducing the culinary and music components to her tours.
• Pam plans to expand her business to warm destinations like Costa Rica and Ireland, where she has already explored and paddled.
• The food scene in Ireland has evolved to include healthy farm-to-table options, and there is a strong emphasis on community and connection. Inflatable paddleboards are not a gimmick and can feel just as solid as hardboards.
• Inflatables are a great option for those who don't have storage space for a hardboard and are easy to travel with.
• Paddleboarding is a sport that can be enjoyed by people of all ages and fitness levels.
• It offers a low-impact workout that engages the core.
• Paddleboarding allows for a magical experience of being out on the water.

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Area/Topic
Turkey, Anatolia

Aydin Kudu
Travel Designer & Documentary Filmmaker
Turkishmoon

I traveled in my native country, Turkey, on a bike and hitchhiking back in 80s when I was a university student. During those trips I preferred not to reveal that I was local, speaking anything but Turkish, to find out people's approach to travelers. I found people all over the country very welcoming, warm, hospitable, curious about other countries and with no expectation in return. Towards to my graduation I realized this reality becoming a strong motivation to start working in travel. That was back in 1987 and I still enjoy taking guests around Turkey on custom designed various programs.

https://www.turkishmoon.com/

Summary
Aydin Kudu, a travel designer and documentary filmmaker, shares his journey from growing up on a hazelnut farm in Turkey to becoming a travel experience creator. He describes his summers spent in the highlands above the timberline, where his family would take their cows to graze. Aydin emphasizes the importance of elevation in shaping culture and how it influences people's way of life. He also discusses the significance of interacting with locals during travel experiences and how it enhances the overall trip. In this conversation, Aydın Kudu and Jason Elkins discuss their experiences with connecting and conversing with people from different backgrounds. Aydın shares his experiences as a tour guide in Turkey and how he developed a passion for storytelling and documentary filmmaking. They also discuss the importance of personal connections and interactions in the tourism industry. Aydın emphasizes the value of being open to different perspectives and interests of travelers, and the importance of enjoying the experience as a guide. Overall, the conversation highlights the power of human connection and the joy of sharing experiences with others.

Keywords

Aydin Kudu, travel designer, documentary filmmaker, Turkey, hazelnut farm, highlands, timberline, elevation, culture, locals, travel experiences, tourism, tour guiding, documentary filmmaking, human connection, personal interactions

Takeaways

• Aydin Kudu grew up on a hazelnut farm in Turkey and spent his summers in the highlands above the timberline.
• Elevation plays a significant role in shaping culture and people's way of life.
• Interacting with locals during travel experiences is crucial and enhances the overall trip.
• Aydin emphasizes the importance of exploring beyond the main roads and engaging with people in rural areas. Tour guides play a crucial role in creating personal connections and interactions with travelers.
• Being open to different perspectives and interests of travelers can enhance the travel experience.
• Enjoying the experience as a guide can have a positive impact on the travelers' experience.
• Human connection and storytelling are essential elements in the tourism industry.

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Area/Topic
Ecuador, Adventure Sports

Santiago Granda
Cofounder
Amazing Ecuador DMC

I am passionate about traveling and enjoying the big outdoors. And having the Andes, the Amazon, the Galapagos and the Pacific Coast as my backyard opens limitless possibilities to enjoy nature, wildlife and local encounters all day, everyday.

https://amazingecuador.com.ec/

Summary
Santiago Granda, from Amazing Ecuador, shares his journey into guiding and the importance of connecting with people and communities in adventure tourism. He was inspired by his mother, who informally guided tourists in Ecuador when he was a child. Santiago realized his natural talent for languages and connecting with people, which led him to become a guide. He believes that the best guides are teachers at heart, eager to share their knowledge and experiences with others. Santiago's first experience as a guide was taking a group to Cotopaxi and Otavalo, and he was hooked from then on. In this conversation, Santiago explains the role of a Destination Management Company (DMC) and how Amazing Ecuador serves as a local partner for travel agents around the world. He emphasizes the importance of respecting the local communities and their ways of life when traveling. Santiago also highlights the value of learning a few words of the local language to enhance the travel experience. He discusses the potential negative impacts of mass tourism and the need to keep it under control to preserve the relationships and natural landscapes in the visited communities. Santiago concludes by expressing his love for the tourism industry and the connections it fosters.

Keywords

Santiago Granda, Amazing Ecuador, guiding, adventure tourism, connecting with people, communities, natural talent, languages, teaching, first guiding experience, DMC, local partner, travel agents, respect, local communities, language, mass tourism, negative impacts, connections

Takeaways

• Guiding is about connecting with people and sharing experiences.
• Being a guide is a natural talent that involves teaching and sharing knowledge.
• The outdoors and adventure activities can help with personal growth and overcoming challenges.
• Being present in the moment is important in adventure tourism.
• Connecting with communities and learning from locals enhances the travel experience.
• Adventure tourism is about the connection with people, not just the destination. Destination Management Companies (DMCs) like Amazing Ecuador serve as local partners for travel agents around the world, handling logistics and providing personalized itineraries for travelers.
• Respect for the local communities and their ways of life is crucial when traveling, including being mindful of cultural norms, learning a few words of the local language, and appreciating different ways of doing things.
• Mass tourism can have negative impacts on communities and natural landscapes, so it is important to keep it under control and prioritize sustainable and responsible travel.
• Learning from and connecting with local people and cultures can enhance the travel experience and foster meaningful connections.
• The tourism industry plays a significant role in promoting understanding, empathy, and peace by bringing people from different cultures together.

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Area/Topic
Southeast Asia, Sailing, Competitive Rowing, Family Adventure

Rob Hamill
Captain
The Cruising Kiwis

Marathon rowing champion Rob Hamill represented New Zealand in rowing for 16 years. Rob's numerous rowing achievements include a silver medal at the World Championships, Commonwealth gold and a world record on the indoor rowing machine.

Rob rowed for New Zealand at the Atlanta Olympics and published The Naked Rower on how he and Phil Stubbs captured headlines around the world winning the gruelling and inaugural Atlantic Rowing Race in 41 days. He then led teams to successful defences in the next two editions making it a three-peat of victories for New Zealand.

Together with his wife Rachel and their teenage sons they are attempting to circumnavigate this gorgeous planet by sail boat. They have taken their children out of school to educate outside the classroom and learn from nature and new cultures.

They’ve only begun to scratch the surface with plenty more to explore. They hope to inspire others to explore different ways to live and educate while having a truckload of fun along the way.

https://thecruisingkiwis.com/

Summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small Adventure Travel Podcast, Jason Elkins interviews Rob Hamill, a boat captain and sailor with the Cruising Kiwis. Rob shares his journey of sailing around the world with his family and the challenges and adventures they have encountered. The conversation covers topics such as Rob's childhood introduction to sailing, the tragic loss of his brother, and his own experiences in the Atlantic Rowing Race. Rob emphasizes the importance of following your passions and taking calculated risks in life. Rob Hamill shares his experience of pursuing his passion and overcoming naysayers, including the loss of his brother. He discusses the support he received from his parents and the impact of grief on his mindset. Rob also talks about the financial aspects of his adventures and how he transitioned from in-person speaking engagements to online platforms. He highlights the importance of timing and the enthusiasm of his teenage sons in embracing the sailing lifestyle. Rob emphasizes the sense of community and the joy of exploring different cultures and cuisines along the way. In this conversation, Rob Hamill and Jason Elkins discuss their love for food and different cuisines, as well as their experiences with traveling and exploring new places. They also talk about the importance of exposing children to different cultures and experiences. Rob shares his journey following his brother's footsteps in Cambodia and the emotional impact it had on him. They touch on the challenges and excitement of sailing and the unexpected mishaps that can occur. The conversation ends with a discussion on the value of embracing adventure and avoiding boredom in life.

Takeaways

• Rob Hamill shares his journey of sailing around the world with his family and the challenges they have faced.
• The tragic loss of Rob's brother had a profound impact on his life.
• Rob emphasizes the importance of following your passions and taking calculated risks.
• The Atlantic Rowing Race was a significant milestone in Rob's life, and he learned valuable lessons from the experience. Don't let naysayers discourage you from pursuing your passion.
• Grief can have a profound impact on one's mindset and desire to prove mortality.
• Timing is crucial when embarking on new adventures.
• Transitioning from in-person events to online platforms can b

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Desert Island Survival, Extreme Adventure

Tom Williams
Founder
Desert Island Survival

Tom founded Desert Island Survival a company that maroons people on uninhabited desert islands. He has walked to the north pole and most recently look part in the survival TV show Alone in an effort to survive as long as possible in the Canadian Wilderness.

https://www.desertislandsurvival.com/

Summary
Tom Williams, founder of Desert Island Survival, shares his journey and the concept behind his adventure travel company. Desert Island Survival offers castaway experiences on uninhabited tropical islands, where participants learn survival skills and live out a survival adventure. Tom was inspired by TV shows like Bear Grylls and his desire to be disconnected from society. He started the company in 2017 and has since run about 20 expeditions a year. The trips attract a diverse range of participants, but the typical guest is a mid-30s individual who feels the need for adventure and a break from their regular routine. In this conversation, Tom Williams discusses his experiences with adventure travel and survival training. He talks about the importance of mindset and pushing one's limits to build self-confidence and mental resilience. Tom also shares how his journey has impacted his relationships and personal life. He mentions the risks involved in his expeditions, such as encounters with bears and moose. Additionally, Tom discusses his plans for a new company that focuses on bushcraft adventures and a potential experience called the Primal Reset, which aims to reset the gut biome and improve overall well-being.

Takeaways

• Desert Island Survival offers castaway experiences on uninhabited tropical islands, where participants learn survival skills and live out a survival adventure.
• The company was inspired by TV shows like Bear Grylls and the desire to be disconnected from society.
• The typical guest is a mid-30s individual who feels the need for adventure and a break from their regular routine.
• The trips attract a diverse range of participants, including professionals, students, and even billionaires.
• The experience of living in nature and practicing survival skills can be transformational and lead to personal growth. Pushing your limits helps change your limits and build self-confidence.
• Mindset is crucial in survival situations and adventure travel.
• Building mental resilience is important for overcoming challenges.
• Tom's expeditions involve risks such as encounters with bears and moose.
• Tom's experiences have positively impacted his relationships and personal life.
• Tom plans to launch a new company focusing on bushcraft adventures and a potential experience called the Primal Reset.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Womens Trips, Group Travel

Janet Scalzo
Chief Adventurer & Owner
Canyon Calling Adventures for Women

With a passion for female empowerment, an endless sense of curiosity, and over thirty years of experience in the travel industry, Janet found herself innately drawn to Canyon Calling’s mission. She followed the call of her adventuresome spirit and acquired the company back in 2014. She’s been leading it with vigor ever since!

https://www.canyoncalling.com/

Summary

Janet Scalzo, the owner of Canyon Calling Adventures for Women, shares her journey of acquiring the business and the unique experiences they offer to women on active vacations. The company was originally founded by a woman who noticed that female-only groups had a different dynamic and stronger bonding. Janet acquired the business in 2014 and has since expanded it to offer soft adventures, retreats, and international travel. The trips provide a space for women to be themselves, connect with others, and reinvest in themselves. The focus is on empowerment and creating lasting friendships. In this conversation, Janet discusses the concerns and hesitations that some women may have about joining a group trip. She addresses the fear of rooming with strangers by offering single rooms as an option. She also suggests starting with a shorter trip or a soft adventure for those who are unsure or not very fit. Janet emphasizes that the trips are about having fun and encourages anyone with concerns to reach out to her. They also discuss the variety of trips offered, including domestic trips in the US, international trips to places like Greece and Croatia, and trips to South America and Central America. Janet addresses the issue of safety in Mexico and emphasizes the importance of staying together and following organized itineraries. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the transformative power of travel and the importance of embracing new experiences.

Takeaways

• Canyon Calling Adventures for Women offers active vacations for women, providing a space for empowerment and connection.
• The company was originally founded by a woman who noticed the unique dynamic and bonding in female-only groups.
• Janet Scalzo acquired the business in 2014 and has expanded it to offer soft adventures, retreats, and international travel.
• The trips provide an opportunity for women to reinvest in themselves, connect with others, and create lasting friendships. For women who are hesitant about joining a group trip, Janet suggests starting with a shorter trip or a soft adventure and offers single rooms as an option.
• Janet emphasizes that the trips are about having fun and encourages anyone with concerns to reach out to her.
• The trips offered include domestic trips in the US, international trips to places like Greece and Croatia, and trips to South America and Central America.
• Janet addresses the issue of safety in Mexico and emphasizes the importance of staying together and following organized itineraries.
• Travel has the power to open minds, hearts, and eyes, and can be a life-changing experience.
• Even when unexpected or challenging situations arise during travel, they often become great stories and memorable experiences.

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Area/Topic
Mexico, Culture, Food, Family

Alex Vizcaino
General Manager
Authentic Mexico Tours

I was born and raised in a small city in western Mexico. During my childhood, my parents took me to many different sites in Mexico, and I fell in love with the sense of discovery that can only come with travel.

I got a bachelor's degree in tourism management which included a semester in NZ, and my past experience includes trip planning, operations and management positions at Expedia, TUI, and other nation-wide and international companies.

After the life in the big corp world, I decided to launch Authentic Mexico Tours, a project born out of a passion for Mexico. The real Mexico. The authentic Mexico. I leveraged the wide network of connections and the deep experience in tourism I have, and set off to create unique experiences designed to awe travelers.

I am the proud father of two little girls, aged 8 and 2 years old, who share my wife's and my love of travel - they both took their first "long" trip in the first couple of years of their lives.

https://authenticmexicotours.com/

Summary
Alex Vizcaino, the general manager of Authentic Mexico Tours, shares his love for travel and adventure in Mexico. He grew up road tripping with his family and exploring neighboring states, which sparked his passion for travel. His uncle played a significant role in his love for adventure, taking him on trips to remote and undiscovered parts of Mexico. Alex studied tourism management and eventually started his own tour company, Authentic Mexico Tours. He emphasizes the importance of a mix of planning and serendipity in travel experiences, creating opportunities for unexpected connections and authentic moments. Alex Vizcaino launched Authentic Mexico Tours in February 2020, but the COVID-19 pandemic forced him to put his plans on hold. However, he used the downtime to polish his product, build relationships with suppliers, and improve his website. When travel restrictions eased, he was able to greet his first guests in February 2021. Alex encourages parents to travel with their young children, as it creates bonding experiences and exposes them to new cultures and foods. He advises those interested in working in the travel industry to find a job with a well-known brand and to choose a niche that aligns with their passion.

Takeaways

• Road tripping with family as a child sparked Alex's love for travel and adventure
• His uncle introduced him to remote and undiscovered parts of Mexico, fostering a deep connection with his country
• Alex studied tourism management and started his own tour company, Authentic Mexico Tours
• He believes in the importance of a mix of planning and serendipity in travel experiences, creating opportunities for authentic moments The COVID-19 pandemic forced Alex Vizcaino to put his tour company, Authentic Mexico Tours, on hold, but he used the downtime to improve his product and build relationships with suppliers.
• Alex encourages parents to travel with their young children, as it creates bonding experiences and exposes them to new cultures and foods.
• For those interested in working in the travel industry, Alex advises finding a job with a well-known brand and choosing a niche that aligns with their passion.
• Alex believes that travel is a beautiful industry and encourages aspiring entrepreneurs to start their own tourism business, even if they don't have extensive experience or connections.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Sailing

Jon Bilger
Managing Director
PredictWind Ltd

Olympian, two-time America’s Cup winner, and New Zealand National Champion in multiple classes, PredictWind Founding Director Jon Bilger spent years accessing the very best private wind and marine forecasting tools in the world. Jon founded PredictWind in 2010 to share this potentially life-saving technology with the public at large, and today PredictWind provides the world’s most accurate and reliable forecasting technology to more than a million users. A lifelong competitive yachtsman, Jon lives in Auckland with his wife and two daughters, who share his passion for the ocean and competitive sailing.

https://www.predictwind.com/

Summary
Jon Bilger, from PredictWind, shares his sailing journey and experiences in this episode. He grew up in a sailing family and developed a passion for sailing at a young age. He navigated for Chris Dixon in the 95 America's Cup and later worked with the Swiss team for 10 years. Jon explains the financial and time commitments involved in participating in the America's Cup. He also discusses the motivation behind competing in the America's Cup and the prestige associated with winning. Jon shares his experiences of teaching others to sail and offers advice for those interested in getting into sailing. In this conversation, Jason Elkins and Jon Bilger discuss their experiences with sailing and the importance of weather forecasting in the sport. Jon shares a story about a challenging sailing trip to Hawaii where they had to deal with a broken mast and injuries on board. He also talks about the founding of PredictWind, a weather forecasting company for sailors, and how their technology has helped prevent disasters at sea. They discuss the safety features of PredictWind, including the ability to track commercial vessels and avoid potential collisions. Jon emphasizes the importance of safety in sailing and how technology has made it easier for inexperienced sailors to navigate the seas.

Takeaways

• Growing up in a sailing family can ignite a passion for sailing at a young age.
• Participating in the America's Cup requires a significant financial investment and a multi-year commitment.
• Winning the America's Cup gives the team the opportunity to write the rules for the next event.
• Teaching others to sail can be a rewarding experience and a way to share your passion.
• Joining a local yacht club is a great way to get involved in sailing and learn from experienced sailors. Weather forecasting is crucial for sailors to ensure their safety and plan their routes effectively.
• PredictWind is a weather forecasting company that provides accurate and detailed forecasts for sailors.
• The technology developed by PredictWind has helped prevent disasters at sea and has made sailing safer for both experienced and inexperienced sailors.
• The ability to track commercial vessels through AIS technology is a valuable safety feature for sailors, allowing them to avoid potential collisions.
• Jon Bilger and his team at PredictWind are passionate about keeping people safe at sea and continue to innovate and improve their services.

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Area/Topic
South America, Ecuador, Peru, Patagonia, Trekking

Macarena Iturralde
CEO
Senderos Naturales Cia. Ltda.

Macarena Iturralde is the General Manager and Trip Designer in the office.

As a formerly naturalist guide in the Galápagos Islands, Peru and the Amazon rainforest she has developed a huge love for nature and it’s conservancy.

In the present she is a member of the General Assembly of the Charles Darwin Foundation and a fellow of the Shackleton and Selous Society.

All this vast experience allows her to create unique itineraries for each group. Clients can count with her services as trip leader to make sure everything goes perfect in their journey.

https://www.senderosnaturales.com/

Summary
Macarena Iturralde, CEO of Senderos Naturales, shares her journey into the adventure travel business. Growing up in a family that loved spontaneous adventures, Macarena developed a passion for travel and exploration from a young age. She became a Galapagos guide at 18 and later studied biology in Ecuador, immersing herself in the country's rich biodiversity. After working in research and interpretation, Macarena opened her own travel agency, offering unique and adventurous experiences to clients. Despite the challenges of divorce and balancing motherhood with a career, Macarena remains grateful for the opportunities and experiences she has had. Macarena Iturralde, CEO of Senderos Naturales, shares her personal journey of balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship. She discusses the challenges she faced as a single mother and CEO, and how she found stability and happiness in her life. Macarena also talks about the impact of the pandemic on her travel agency and how she managed to refund her clients while keeping the business afloat. She emphasizes the importance of freedom, happiness, and peace in life and shares her experiences of teaching yoga and finding solace in nature during the pandemic. Macarena also addresses the safety and security concerns in Ecuador and reassures listeners that the country is functioning normally and taking measures to combat drug cartels. She highlights the diverse natural beauty of South America and the personalized tailor-made trips offered by Senderos Naturales.

Takeaways

• Macarena Iturralde's passion for adventure travel was sparked by her childhood experiences of spontaneous family trips.
• She became a Galapagos guide at 18 and studied biology in Ecuador, immersing herself in the country's biodiversity.
• After working in research and interpretation, Macarena opened her own travel agency, offering unique and adventurous experiences to clients.
• Despite the challenges of divorce and balancing motherhood with a career, Macarena remains grateful for the opportunities and experiences she has had. Balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship can be challenging, but finding stability and happiness is possible.
• The pandemic had a significant impact on the travel industry, but with careful management, businesses can survive and even thrive.
• Freedom, happiness, and peace are essential in life, and finding solace in nature can contribute to overall well-being.
• Ecuador is functioning normally, and while there are some safety concerns in certain areas, the country is taking measures to combat drug cartels and ensure the safety of its residents and visitors.
• Senderos Naturales offers personalized tailor-made trips to South America, allowing travelers to explore the diverse natural beauty of the continent.

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Area/Topic
Sailing, Personal Development, Adventure Education

John Ensley
Sailing School Owner / Sailing Instructor
Cruise and Learn Sailing International

John Ensley has been sailing since he was 11 years old (he was 11 in 1980) and has been sharing his knowledge, experience and passion for sailing and cruising as a professional sailing instructor since 2016, with hundreds of aspiring sailors learning to sail and cruise on his watch.

He is the owner and founder of Cruise-n-Learn Sailing International, the home of the one-of-a-kind "Cruise-n-Learn Sailing Immersion Program."

John feels strongly that it isn’t just about learning sailing skills and getting certifications, it’s really about becoming a competent sailor and experiencing an amazing lifestyle and philosophy that’s simple, fun, challenging, clean, green, beautiful, peaceful and thrilling, all at the same time…

https://cruisenlearnsailing.com/

Summary
John Ensley, owner of Cruise and Learn Sailing International, shares his journey into sailing and adventure travel. He started sailing at a young age and developed a passion for it. After attending a boat show and taking sailing courses, he realized he wanted to pursue sailing as a lifestyle. He eventually started his own sailing instruction business and now spends several months a year in Mexico, teaching and sharing his love for sailing. John values freedom, adventure, and service, and finds joy in sharing his experiences with others. John Ensley shares his journey of awakening and finding his passion for sailing. He emphasizes the importance of taking action and pursuing your dreams. He also discusses the Cruise and Learn Sailing International program, which offers a 12-month sailing immersion program that combines online theory training, virtual reality training, networking, and a one-week cruise and learn adventure. John encourages listeners to find a way to experience their dreams, even if it's starting small in their local waters.

Takeaways

• Sailing can be a fulfilling and adventurous lifestyle
• Sharing experiences with others is a rewarding part of adventure travel
• Personal values can guide career choices
• Taking small steps towards your goals can lead to big changes
• Finding a balance between work and personal passions is important Take action and pursue your dreams
• The Cruise and Learn Sailing International program offers a 12-month sailing immersion program
• The program includes online theory training, virtual reality training, networking, and a one-week cruise and learn adventure
• Find a way to experience your dreams, even if it's starting small in your local waters
• Crew finder sites can be a way to volunteer and gain sailing experience

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Area/Topic
Latin America, Asia, Slow Travel, Trip Planning

Steve Wilson
Founder
LiNGER Travel

I have spent the last 25 years travelling the world, from journeying overland through every country in Latin America to studying and working in Belize, Bolivia, Canada, Mexico and Nicaragua. I took a sabbatical in 2010 to spend a year researching and travelling through South East Asia, China and India.

I became involved with complex trip planning for South America specialist operators in the early 2000s and this formed the basis of my career. The more complex the better. One of my initial projects was for a renowned landscape photographer and his mission to capture images of the extreme cardinal points and edges of the continent – part of a global project with a 104-year-old camera.

https://www.linger.co.uk/

Summary
Steve Wilson, founder of Linger Travel, discusses his unique approach to sabbatical planning and complex trip planning. He defines a sabbatical as a longer than normal period of time to travel, emphasizing that it doesn't have to be an epic adventure or a traditional academic pursuit. The duration of a sabbatical can vary depending on the individual, with trips ranging from a month to up to a year. Steve highlights the importance of attention to detail in trip planning and the need for a strong connection between the travel planner and the client. He also shares his own personal journey from a career in finance to founding Linger Travel. 

In this conversation, Steve Wilson discusses the importance of proper planning and pacing when embarking on long-term travel. He emphasizes the need to slow down, avoid travel fatigue, and find a balance between must-see attractions and slower-paced, simpler experiences. Wilson also highlights the significance of understanding individual preferences and interests when creating travel itineraries. He advises against rushing through countries and ticking off boxes, instead encouraging travelers to go deeper within a country and explore off-the-beaten-path destinations. Wilson also shares insights on traveling in India and the importance of planning a diverse itinerary to fully appreciate the country's culture and landscapes.

Takeaways

• A sabbatical is a longer than normal period of time to travel, providing an opportunity to break away from routine and have new experiences.
• Linger Travel specializes in complex trip planning, focusing on longer and more adventurous trips.
• There is no hard and fast rule for the duration of a sabbatical, as it depends on the individual's preferences and previous travel experiences.
• Attention to detail is crucial in trip planning, and a strong connection between the travel planner and the client is important for a successful trip.
• Family travel can be a rewarding experience, and introducing children to travel at a young age can have educational and personal growth benefits.
• Long-term travel can have its challenges, such as loneliness and missing familiar comforts, but strategic planning and finding opportunities for meaningful experiences can help overcome these challenges. Proper planning and pacing are crucial for long-term travel to avoid travel fatigue.
• Finding a balance between must-see attractions and slower-paced experiences is essential for an enjoyable trip.
• Understanding individual preferences and interests is key when creating travel itineraries.
• Exploring off-the-beaten-path destinations can lead to unique and rewarding experiences.
• India offers diverse c

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, SCUBA Diving, Responsible Tourism

Marjanna Akhtar
Owner
Great Expeditions Travel

Marjanna’s interest in international travel began in the late ‘80s while pursuing her BA in animal biology at the University of Colorado, and she took her first underwater breath on scuba!

That was the beginning of a travel career that spans over three decades; beginning in 1990 with a specialization in the niche market of scuba diving and the destinations found in the South Pacific.

Over the ensuing years, she has evolved the business to reflect the diverse interests of the company’s growing clientele base, as well as her own style and passion for world-wide travel. Destinations in Africa, Central & South America, SE Asia and Europe now feature strongly in the company's portfolio and incorporating authentic experiences into customized itineraries for individuals, families and small groups of friends are the foundation of Great Expeditions Travel.

Throughout her travel career, exploring the world did not halt when motherhood arrived and her son, now a young adult, has been immersed into international travel since the age of 9 months.

When not on her desk, you can often find Marjanna on the back of her horse, enjoying the rural small communities of western Colorado with her dogs and husband.

https://greatexpeditionstravel.com/

Summary
Marjanna Akhtar, owner of Great Expeditions Travel, discusses her background in adventure travel and the importance of responsible and sustainable tourism. She shares her personal experiences and the impact of travel on her own life. The conversation also touches on the challenges of over-tourism and the role of tour operators in promoting responsible travel. Marjanna emphasizes the need for travelers to support local communities and conservation efforts, and the importance of connecting with people and cultures while traveling. Marjanna Akhtar discusses the benefits of being a member of the Adventure Travel Trade Association (ATTA) and the importance of networking and connecting with responsible tour operators. She highlights the role of ATTA in bringing together all the components of the travel industry to grow the market in sustainable ways. Marjanna also emphasizes the challenges and rewards of running a tour operation business, including the need for extensive knowledge and education in the industry. She discusses the value of human contact in travel and the importance of personalized experiences. Marjanna shares the satisfaction of creating life-changing experiences for clients and the pride she feels in her work.

Takeaways

• Adventure travel can be a means to explore a destination and connect with local communities and nature.
• Responsible tourism involves supporting local communities, conservation efforts, and distributing income to the people on the ground.
• Over-tourism is a concern, and it is important to find ways to minimize the negative impact of mass tourism.
• Tour operators play a crucial role in promoting responsible and sustainable tourism and educating clients about their choices.
• Travel can help break down prejudices and foster understanding and connection among people from different cultures and backgrounds. Being a member of ATTA provides networking opportunities and connections with responsible tour operators.
• ATTA brings together all components of the travel industry to grow the market in sustainable ways.
• Running a tour operation business requires extensive knowledge, edu

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Adventure Travel, Tourism Business

Monika Sundem
CEO
Adventure Life

As a Pacific Northwest native I grew up playing in the mountains and lakes of the Cascades. I now enjoy living near Glacier National Park and am learning how to master the adventure called 'motherhood'. I have been an Adventure Lifer for over 18 years during which time I've worn many hats from operations to trip planning to marketing. I have traveled the world, but hold a special place in my heart for Latin America in particular. I love opportunities to interact with indigenous and local cultures and always glean valuable lessons as a result of off-the-beaten travel. I feel honored to be a part of creating similar life-changing moments for our travelers and grateful to work with the dedicated and amazing team at Adventure Life.

https://www.adventure-life.com/

Summary
Monika Sundem, CEO of Adventure Life, shares her journey from bookkeeping to leading a travel company. Her passion for Latin culture and travel inspired her to join Adventure Life. She emphasizes the importance of personal connections and building relationships with clients. The company transitioned to a fully remote team, which has its challenges in terms of training and communication, but also offers the flexibility to hire the best candidates regardless of location. The team's collective travel experience and ability to customize trips based on clients' preferences are key factors in their success. Monika Sundem, the CEO at Adventure Life, discusses the importance of human connection in travel. She emphasizes that it's the people, both the staff and the travelers, that make the experience meaningful and fulfilling. Monika shares personal stories of connecting with travelers and forming deep connections with them. She also highlights the value of cultural connections and the joy of interacting with locals in different countries. Monika acknowledges the challenges of running a travel business, including the weight of decision-making and the responsibility towards employees. Overall, she emphasizes the significance of human connection in the travel industry.

Takeaways

• Passion for Latin culture and travel led Monika Sundem to join Adventure Life
• Building personal connections and relationships with clients is crucial in the travel industry
• Transitioning to a fully remote team has its challenges, but also offers flexibility in hiring
• The team's collective travel experience and ability to customize trips are key factors in their success The people, both staff and travelers, are what make travel experiences meaningful and fulfilling.
• Cultural connections and interactions with locals enhance the travel experience.
• Running a travel business comes with challenges and responsibilities, including decision-making and the well-being of employees.
• Human connection is essential in the travel industry and contributes to memorable experiences.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide Trekking, Sweden, Outdoor Events

Sofie Jugård Löfgren
Outdoor Event Producer & Outdoor Guide
Aktivut

Passionate outdoor guide & ski instructor from the very north of Scandinavia. Since 20 years back managing the trekking event Fjällräven Classic Sweden that has grown to be 7 events world wide, attracting thousands of trekkers. Also into conscious breathing and connecting it to outdoor life.

https://aktivut.se/

Summary
Sofie Jugård Löfgren, an outdoor event producer and adventure guide, shares her journey into the outdoor industry and the importance of outdoor experiences. She discusses the abundance of sunlight in Sweden during the summer months and the challenges of living in a place with extreme daylight variations. Sofie highlights the value of outdoor activities in team building and creating connections, whether it's through incentive trips for companies or family adventures. She emphasizes the equalizing effect of the outdoors, where everyone can contribute their unique skills and abilities. Sofie also mentions the importance of introducing teenagers to outdoor experiences and the positive impact it can have on their independence and personal growth. Sofie Jugård Löfgren discusses her involvement in event organizing and outdoor event producing, specifically the Fjällräven Classic. She shares how she got into the event industry and the success of the Fjällräven Classic, which started as a running event but later shifted to a trekking event. Sofie explains that the event is not a race but a trekking experience where participants can walk at their own pace and enjoy the nature. She also mentions the growth of the event, with editions now taking place in multiple countries. Additionally, Sofie talks about her new venture in conscious breathing and Ayurveda, aiming to combine these practices with outdoor activities.

Takeaways

• Outdoor experiences can have a profound impact on personal growth and team building.
• Incentive trips that include outdoor activities provide a unique opportunity for colleagues to connect and get to know each other in a different setting.
• Teenagers often benefit from outdoor experiences that allow them to gain independence and connect with peers.
• The outdoors can create a level playing field where everyone's skills and abilities are valued and contribute to the group dynamic.
• Introducing children to outdoor activities at a young age can foster a love for nature and adventure. Sofie got into event organizing and outdoor event producing through a collaboration with the outdoor brand Fjällräven
• The Fjällräven Classic started as a running event but later shifted to a trekking event
• The event is not a race but a trekking experience where participants can walk at their own pace and enjoy the nature
• The Fjällräven Classic has grown over the years and now has editions in multiple countries
• Sofie is also involved in conscious breathing and Ayurveda, aiming to combine these practices with outdoor activities

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Area/Topic
Extreme Adventure, Storm Chasing, The Explorers Club, Nature Documentary Filmmaking

George Kourounis
Explorer In Residence
Royal Canadian Geographical Society

George Kourounis has a passion for the world’s extremes. As an explorer, storm chaser, TV presenter, and Explorer-In-Residence for the RCGS, he’s travelled to 80 countries on all 7 continents to document extreme forces of nature so that others can appreciate the power of Mother Nature’s temper tantrums.  For 25 years he has chased tornadoes on the Great Plains, driven into the eye of hurricanes along the Gulf Coast, rappelled deep in the crater of active volcanoes in the Congo & South Pacific, climbed mountains in North Korea, and earned a Guinness World Record for become the first person to set foot at the bottom of the Darvaza flaming gas crater in Turkmenistan while leading an expedition for National Geographic.

http://furiousearth.com/Stormchaser.html

Summary
George Kourounis, an explorer in residence at the Royal Canadian Geographical Society, shares his journey from being a musician and sound engineer to becoming a full-time storm chaser and adventurer. He specializes in traveling the world and documenting extreme forces of nature and natural disasters. George discusses the changing media landscape with the rise of social media and YouTube, and how it has both made it easier and more difficult for aspiring explorers and filmmakers. He also talks about his involvement with the Explorers Club and the Royal Canadian Geographical Society, and his passion for documenting extreme places and natural phenomena, particularly volcanoes. George Kourounis shares his fascination with volcanoes and his experience of getting married on top of an exploding volcano. He discusses the concept of adventure travel and the importance of stepping outside of one's comfort zone. George also talks about his expedition to Turkmenistan's flaming crater, known as the 'Doorway to Hell,' and his mission to study the microbes living at the bottom of the crater. He describes the challenges of obtaining permission and the intense experience of being at the bottom of the flaming pit. In this final part of the conversation, George Kourounis discusses the intentional efforts of Turkmenistan to put out the fire in the Darvaza gas crater and reclaim the gas for profit. He also talks about the unique architecture and empty streets of the capital city, Ashgabat. George shares his experiences connecting with locals in Turkmenistan and other countries he has visited. The conversation then shifts to the topic of food, with George sharing his most bizarre food experience of eating a piece of a 10,000-year-old woolly mammoth in Siberia. The importance of being cautious with food and water while traveling is also emphasized.

Takeaways

• George Kourounis specializes in traveling the world and documenting extreme forces of nature and natural disasters.
• The media landscape has changed dramatically with the rise of social media and YouTube, making it easier for anyone to create and share content, but also increasing competition.
• George is involved with the Explorers Club and the Royal Canadian Geographical Society, organizations that promote discovery, exploration, and conservation.
• His passion lies in documenting extreme places and natural phenomena, particularly volcanoes. Volcanoes are fascinating and beautiful natural phenomena that can be both destructive and awe-inspiring.
• Adventure travel is about stepping outside of one's comfort zone and

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Latin America, Tourism Business

Staci Steele
Commercial Manager
SA Expeditions

Staci has dedicated a significant part of her life to globetrotting, especially across South America. She's embraced exploration not just as a hobby but as a disciplined endeavor to understand and facilitate connections between the English-speaking world and countless communities in South America.

Her journeys, which began with just a backpack and a sense of wanderlust, have evolved into a professional capacity for executing experiences that are as refined and remarkable as anyone else in her industry niche. Staci has been with SA Expeditions since 2012, and her journey has been one of growth and evolution, starting as a Destination Expert, advancing to Sales Manager, and now Commercial Manager overseeing global partnerships and destination development.

The economic impact of the travel services purchased for her clients reaches into the millions across the developing economies of Latin America and now expands worldwide. Countless guides, drivers, muleteers, rural communities, hotels, and national economies (to name just a few) have benefited from her daily and meticulous efforts.

https://www.saexpeditions.com/

Summary
In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Staci Steele, the commercial manager of SA Expeditions. They discuss Staci's role as a commercial manager and her responsibilities in managing relationships with partners and overseeing the sales team. They also talk about the expansion of SA Expeditions worldwide and the meaning behind the company's name. Staci shares her travel inspirations and how she developed a passion for learning languages, particularly Spanish. They discuss the importance of language in understanding different cultures and connecting with people on a deeper level. Staci also shares her experience of living in the US and the decision to move back to Latin America. In this conversation, Staci Steele, Commercial Manager at SA Expeditions, discusses the importance of building relationships with local communities and guides in the travel industry. She emphasizes the value of personal connections and the impact they have on the overall travel experience. Staci also highlights the company's commitment to responsible tourism and supporting local communities. She shares insights into the hiring process at SA Expeditions and the qualities they look for in destination experts. The conversation concludes with a discussion on the challenges and pressures faced by travel professionals and the satisfaction that comes from creating memorable experiences for clients.

Takeaways

• The role of a commercial manager involves managing relationships with partners and overseeing the sales team.
• SA Expeditions has expanded worldwide and is not limited to South America, despite the name.
• Learning a language, such as Spanish, allows for a deeper understanding of different cultures and better connections with people.
• Living in different countries can provide unique experiences and perspectives.
• Moving back to Latin America allowed Staci and her family to be closer to their roots and experience a different lifestyle. Building relationships with local communities and guides is crucial in the travel industry
• Personal connections enhance the overall travel experience
• SA Expeditions is committed to responsible tourism and supporting local communities
• The hiring process at SA Expeditions focuses on travel experience, sales background, and language

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Transformational Travel, Sustainability

Mary Stange
Owner
Ponte Travels

My passion for world travel was first sparked through a study abroad semester in Limerick, Ireland when I was 19. Since then, I have traveled to numerous countries — many of those with my two kids by my side. A career serving in the U.S. Navy inspired me to seek an advanced degree in International Relations from American University with a focus in Development. My work since then has further instilled my characteristic global mindset and dedication to encourage others to experience the world first-hand and support local economies. After separating from the Navy in 2015, my family began a new life chapter traveling the world, allowing them the opportunity to live overseas in countries such as Armenia, Colombia, and Cyprus.

I believe in the transformative nature of travel; that experiencing the world with respect and humility develops our tolerance, empathy, and most of all understanding of the world and ourselves. I also believe in sustainable tourism; and that in order to be true global citizens, we must take care of the world around us including local communities, wildlife, and the environment. I am passionate about creating unforgettable trips for the constantly curious and allowing space for exploration and wonder.

https://www.pontetravels.com/

Summary
Mary Stange, owner of Ponte Travels, shares her travel experiences and how she got into the travel industry. Her love for travel began at a young age when her father, a merchant marine, would send trinkets and postcards from his travels. She later had the opportunity to study abroad in Ireland, which opened her eyes to living in a new country and experiencing different cultures. Mary then joined the Navy as an officer and had the chance to see the world during her deployments. After leaving the Navy, she and her husband decided to pursue a life of travel and adventure, joining the Foreign Service of the State Department. They lived in Armenia and Colombia, immersing themselves in the local cultures and exploring the countries. Despite the challenges of language barriers and mundane tasks like grocery shopping, Mary found joy in the adventure and the connections she made with people. The COVID-19 pandemic brought unexpected challenges, but they persevered and continued to embrace the travel lifestyle. Mary discusses her experiences living in different countries, including Colombia and Cyprus. She highlights the unique aspects of each place and the opportunities for exploration and growth. Mary also shares her journey of starting a travel business during the COVID-19 pandemic and the challenges and successes she has encountered. She emphasizes the importance of travel and encourages listeners to embrace new experiences and cultures. Mary expresses her passion for the North Andes region, particularly Colombia, and her desire to showcase its beauty and diversity.

Takeaways

• Travel experiences can shape a person's perspective and inspire them to explore the world.
• Living in a new country provides a deeper understanding of different cultures and everyday life.
• Challenges like language barriers and mundane tasks can be part of the adventure and create unique experiences.
• The COVID-19 pandemic brought unexpected challenges to travel, but it also provided opportunities for connection and resilience. Embrace new experiences and cultures through travel
• Start a travel business during challenging times by adapting and planning ahead
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Area/Topic
Brazil, Ecotourism, Destination Management, Luxury Travel

Mikael Castro
Co-founder and GM
Journey Brazil

Sustainable Tourism Strategist | 20+ Years of Global Experience | Conde Nast Top Travel Specialist 2023

As a seasoned manager with over 20 years of experience in the tourism industry, I am focused on providing unique and sustainable travel experiences. Throughout my career, I have worked with tour operators, non-profits, and international associations in over 25 countries and visited over 76 countries. I am an expert luxury and adventure travel professional with the ability to design, market and operate complex itineraries in unique locations. I thrive creating experiences that connect people profoundly with the places they visit and people they meet.

I have a passion for photography and sharing through storytelling.

https://journeybrazil.com/

summary
Mikael Castro, the former country manager for Brazil for Abercrombie & Kent DMC, shares his journey from growing up between Brazil and the United States to working in the tourism industry. He discusses his passion for travel, his experiences exploring different cultures, and the impact of his father's work in conservation. Mikael also talks about his decision to leave his corporate role and embark on a nine-month expedition with his father in Africa, which led him to pursue a career in tourism and hospitality.

In this episode, Mikael shares his love for Brazil and the surprises that visitors often encounter when they experience Rio de Janeiro. He highlights Brazil's vast diversity, with landscapes and attractions that extend far beyond popular spots like Rio and Iguazu Falls. Mikael also discusses Brazil's leadership in renewable energy and the abundant opportunities for sustainable travel across the country.

He emphasizes the importance of hospitality in Brazil, where guides play a crucial role in fostering authentic connections with travelers. From sharing meals with locals to participating in cultural traditions like soccer, these personal interactions create lasting memories. With its rich natural resources and diverse biomes, Brazil is an ideal destination for transformative and sustainable travel experiences.

Since recording this episode, Mikael has gone become the cofounder of Journey Brazil, a luxury DMC with a focus on creating unique travel experiences that have a positive impact.

takeaways

• Mikael Castro's upbringing in a family passionate about travel and conservation shaped his love for exploring different cultures and the natural world.
• His decision to embark on a nine-month expedition with his father in Africa led him to pursue a career in tourism and hospitality.
• Mikael's deep connection to Brazil and its unique identity influenced his decision to work in the tourism industry and promote the country's natural beauty and outdoor experiences.
• Visitors to Rio de Janeiro are often surprised by the city's stunning landscapes, friendly people, and opportunities for outdoor adventures. Brazil is a vast country with diverse landscapes and attractions beyond the popular destinations of Rio de Janeiro and Iguazu Falls.
• There are many opportunities for sustainable travel in Brazil, with the country leading the way in renewable energy sources.
• The hospitality gene is essential for guides in Brazil, as they not only provide information but also create authentic connections with travelers.

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Area/Topic
Conservation, Voluntourism, Human Connection

Chris Braunlich
Board Chair and CEO
Conservation Volunteers International Program

Chris is Board Chair and Chief Executive Officer of Conservation Volunteers International Program. She has a bachelor's degree in economics and an MBA in finance from the University of California at Berkeley. Prior to retirement, she spent her career working in banking and in finance in the corporate world.

How did a person with degrees in economics and finance "end up" volunteering as CEO for an environmental conservation nonprofit? She always loved the outdoors, she has volunteered since she was in high school, and she prefers doing to talking.

Brought up in a time when children were free-range, Chris rode her bike, climbed trees, scrambled among the rocks along the ocean cliffs - outdoors was fun, freedom, inner peace. In college her husband introduced her to backpacking, and once they figured out how a 5'3" woman could happily hike with a man who had a 6'3" stride, hiking in the mountains with her husband became her favorite getaway.

https://conservationvip.org/

summary
Chris Braunlich is the board chair and CEO of Conservation Volunteers International Program (Conservation VIP), a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping sustain landscapes, cultural heritage sites, and biodiversity. The organization focuses on international volunteering and runs programs in various destinations. They rely on revenue from volunteers who participate in their trips and also accept donations. Conservation VIP aims to preserve and protect important places and projects, and they align volunteers with tasks that match their skills and abilities. The organization emphasizes the importance of good trails and the responsibility of global citizens to contribute to conservation efforts. Public lands, such as national parks, are precious places that are increasingly appreciated as urbanization limits access to natural spaces. The maintenance of national parks is a significant challenge, with an estimated $22 billion needed for maintenance in US national parks alone. National parks play a crucial role in protecting biodiversity and preserving natural habitats. However, it is important to balance human access with the need to protect and preserve the natural environment. There is an opportunity for tour operators to partner with conservation organizations to offer trips that incorporate volunteer work and conservation efforts.

takeaways

• Conservation VIP is a nonprofit organization dedicated to sustaining landscapes, cultural heritage sites, and biodiversity.
• The organization relies on revenue from volunteers who participate in their trips and also accepts donations.
• Conservation VIP aligns volunteers with tasks that match their skills and abilities.
• The organization emphasizes the importance of good trails and the responsibility of global citizens to contribute to conservation efforts. Public lands, such as national parks, are valuable and should be appreciated and protected.
• The maintenance of national parks is a significant challenge, with a large amount of funding needed.
• National parks play a crucial role in protecting biodiversity and preserving natural habitats.
• Balancing human access with the need to protect and preserve the natural environment is important.
• Tour operators have the opportunity to partner with conservation organizations to offer trips that incorporate volunteer work and conservation efforts.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Trip Planning, Shared Adventures

Richard Campbell
Founder & CEO
10Adventures

Richard is the founder and CEO of 10Adventures, a platform to book customizable and private active vacations. With trips in 85+ countries and travellers from 35+ countries, 10Adventures is a global platform that enables people to create meaningful travel experiences with the people that matter most in their lives. These shared experiences end up as the photos on their walls, the stories that are told at family reunions, and the memories that last a lifetime.

Richard has spent his 25-year career in high-growth start-ups and scale-ups, having worked across three continents, and worked in English, French, and Spanish.  In addition, Richard is an adventure traveler himself, and now spends his weekends exploring the Rocky Mountains with his wife and 3 children.

https://www.10adventures.com/

summary
Richard Campbell, founder and CEO of 10 Adventures, shares his journey from running a consulting company to starting a hiking website and eventually launching 10 Adventures. He discusses the importance of travel and the joy of exploring different cultures and places. Richard explains how technology has impacted the travel industry, with an abundance of information and options available to travelers. He highlights the value of simplicity and personalized experiences in adventure travel, where local tour operators can provide insider knowledge and create unique trips. Richard also emphasizes the benefits of slow travel and immersing oneself in a destination. The conversation explores the phenomenon of the 'Instagramization' of travel, where people are influenced by popular travel photos on social media and seek to visit the same places. However, this often leads to overcrowding and a lack of authentic experiences. The speakers discuss the importance of getting off the beaten track and exploring lesser-known destinations to have more meaningful and unique experiences. They also highlight the benefits of adventure travel, such as walking or cycling holidays, which provide opportunities for physical activity, mental health benefits, and quality time with loved ones. Overall, the conversation emphasizes the power of travel to create lasting memories and connections.

takeaways

• Richard Campbell started 10 Adventures after running a consulting company and realizing his passion for creating and helping people.
• Technology has provided travelers with an abundance of information, but it has also made travel planning more complex and overwhelming.
• 10 Adventures simplifies adventure travel by offering personalized trips planned by local tour operators, providing insider knowledge and unique experiences.
• Slow travel allows for a deeper connection with a destination and a more authentic experience.
• Adventure travel offers the opportunity to explore off-the-beaten-path locations and engage with local cultures. The 'Instagramization' of travel can lead to overcrowding and a lack of authentic experiences.
• Getting off the beaten track and exploring lesser-known destinations can provide more meaningful and unique experiences.
• Adventure travel, such as walking or cycling holidays, offers physical and mental health benefits.
• Travel provides an opportunity for quality time with loved ones and the creation of lasting memories and connections.

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Area/Topic
Guiding, Costa Rica, Ecuador, Artificial Intelligence for Tour Operators

Jason Halberstadt
Founder and CEO
MyTrip.AI

Jason Halberstadt has been helping tour operators innovate online and grow their businesses since the dawn of the Internet in the 1990's when he moved to Ecuador from the US and started a digital marketing agency specialized in travel. He launched MyTrip.AI in 2023 to develop AI software and services to help small and medium-sized travel companies innovate in order to compete with industry giants.

https://mytrip.ai/

summary
Jason Halberstadt, founder and CEO of MyYrip.AI, shares his journey from being a guide and outdoor instructor to moving to Ecuador where he then transitioned to offering internet services to tour operators and eventually ventured into AI assistance for travel businesses. The AI assistant helps engage website visitors in personalized conversations, providing value and building trust before asking for contact information. This approach has resulted in a high conversion rate and improved customer satisfaction. The conversation with Jason Elkins focused on the importance of personalized and timely service in the travel industry. He emphasized that the first company to develop a relationship with a prospective traveler often wins the business. However, many tour operators struggle to provide quick responses and customized attention. This is where AI assistants can play a crucial role. AI assistants can greet travelers immediately, understand their preferences, recommend suitable products, and even schedule meetings with human trip planners. By combining AI technology with human expertise, tour operators can enhance the customer experience and improve their sales process.

takeaways

• Jason Halberstadt started as a guide and outdoor instructor before starting a tour operator marketing business in Ecuador.
• He began by offering internet services to tour operators and eventually ventured into AI assistance for travel businesses.
• The AI assistant engages website visitors in personalized conversations, providing value and building trust before asking for contact information.
• This approach has resulted in a high conversion rate and improved customer satisfaction. In the travel industry, the first company to develop a relationship with a prospective traveler often wins the business.
• Tour operators often struggle to provide quick responses and customized attention, which can lead to missed opportunities.
• AI assistants can greet travelers immediately, understand their preferences, recommend suitable products, and schedule meetings with human trip planners.
• By combining AI technology with human expertise, tour operators can enhance the customer experience and improve their sales process.

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Area/Topic
Africa, Safaris, Conservation, Business

Alan Feldstein
Founder & Owner
Infinite Safari Adventures

For two decades, Alan Feldstein worked as a successful entertainment and marketing/advertising attorney in Los Angeles. In 2000 after racking up 450,000 frequent flyer miles he asked his wife where she wanted to go in the world.  She replied “I have always wanted to go on a safari in Africa”.  That trip to Africa it changed his life.  In 2005 he summited Mt. Kilimanjaro and then tracked chimps in the Mahale Mountains.  It was there he met his future East African Ground Partner who shared a love of kayaking.  In 2008 he took his children to Africa and on that trip became one of the first people to kayak off the coast of Tanzania.  It was there and then that he decidedto leave the practice of law and share his passion for Africa and adventure to create Infinite Safari Adventures.

Alan is a member of the Adventurer’s Club of Los Angeles and the international Explorers Club where he was the Southern California Chapter Chair. He also sits on the boards of the Cheetah Conservation Fund, Saving The Survivors, and The Bird School Project. In 2023 he and his wife, Journalist Diane Haithman, founded the Infinite Safari Foundation which is dedicated to humanitarian, educational and conservation initiatives in Africa.  It is funded, in part, from a donation of the cost of each Infinite Safari Adventure safari that is created.  He is also the author of The Best African Safari - Tips from an Obsessive Planner a definitive guide to help people plan their best safari.

https://www.infinitesafariadventures.com/

summary
Alan Feldstein, founder of Infinite Safari Adventures, shares his journey from being a lawyer to starting a safari company in Africa. His passion for travel and adventure led him to explore different parts of the world, including Africa. He fell in love with the wildlife and the people of Africa, which inspired him to start his own safari company. Alan emphasizes the transformative experience of visiting Africa and the importance of unplugging from technology to fully immerse oneself in the beauty of the continent. He also highlights the positive impact of tourism on local communities and the need for responsible travel. The conversation explores the importance of tourism in Africa for conservation and community development. It highlights the role of tourism in inspiring governments to prioritize conservation and the economic benefits it brings to local communities. Human-wildlife conflict is identified as a major challenge, and various solutions such as education, community involvement, and innovative technologies are discussed. The conversation also touches on the issue of overtourism and the need for responsible tourism practices. The personal connections and cultural experiences that travelers can have in Africa are emphasized, along with the reminder to seize the opportunity to visit Africa now.

takeaways

• Passion for travel and adventure can lead to unexpected opportunities and career paths.
• Africa offers a transformative experience for travelers of all ages.
• Unplugging from technology allows for a deeper connection with nature and the local culture.
• Tourism plays a crucial role in supporting local communities and economies in Africa. Tourism plays a crucial role in inspiring governments to prioritize conservation and in providing economic benefits to local communities in Africa.
• Human-wildlife conflict is a major challenge that needs to be addressed

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Central Asia, Middle East

Marc Leaderman
Product & Operations Director
Wild Frontiers Adventure Travel

When I was younger we never journeyed anywhere as a family, so my love of travel really started at university when I spent one summer teaching English in Romania, in what turned out to be one of the most transformative trips I have ever experienced. It was just after the fall of communism and it was a real eye-opener for me to see people, the same age as me, living such different lifestyles - something I’d only really glimpsed on the news. They had all lived through the turmoil and violence of the events of 1989, so meeting them and hearing their stories really piqued my interest in the wider world.

After graduating, I taught English in Japan and then I went to Australia, where I spent some time as a door-to-door salesman. When I eventually came home, it was short-lived - I spent the next ten years as a UK tax-exile, tour-leading in over 60 countries from North Korea to Mali. On one occasion where I returned to London, I met Jonny. I thought I’d been to some of the most adventurous places out there before I met him! I attended one of Jonny’s talks on Afghanistan and he thought I was spying for a rival travel company, but I was just interested in what Wild Frontiers did and now I head up the Product and Operations department (and also, regrettably, have to pay tax!)

With my product hat on, I’m always looking at new areas to which we can travel - a role which is endlessly exciting, especially as the world changes. It’s important that we keep that Wild Frontiers’ edge on emerging destinations. But it’s also about visiting familiar places in new ways.

From the operational side, it’s really about managing the constant challenges that come up on tours, the ever changing rules and regulations and just making sure that everything on the road happens as planned. It’s no easy task and assuredly a 24/7 job as we will almost always have several clients travelling at any given time to one of the 90+ destinations we offer.

https://www.wildfrontierstravel.com/

summary
In this conversation, Jason Elkins interviews Marc Leaderman, the product and operations director for Wild Frontiers Adventure Travel. Marc shares his journey from a childhood with limited travel experiences to becoming a tour leader and exploring different countries. He talks about the importance of pushing boundaries and trying new things, as well as the impact of travel on one's perspective and happiness. They also discuss the changes in the travel industry over the years, including the use of technology and the challenges of staying present with clients. In this conversation, Marc shares his experiences as a tour guide and the challenges of balancing customer expectations with sustainable tourism practices. He discusses the importance of finding a balance between popular tourist attractions and off-the-beaten-path experiences. Marc also highlights the impact of technology and social media on the rapid growth of new destinations and the challenges of over-tourism. He emphasizes the need for respect and collaboration with local communities and the responsibility of tour operators to provide a positive and sustainable travel experience. Marc concludes by sharing the power of travel in fostering understanding and breaking down cultural barriers.

takeaways

• Travel experiences can have a profound impact on one's perspective and happiness.
• Pushing boundaries and trying new things can lead to personal gro

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Trekking, Lifestyle

Jim Young
Founder & Director
Adventurous Ewe

From the heart of Snowdonia in North Wales, Jim founded Adventurous Ewe after years of guiding  overland expeditions and trekking through many remote patches of the planet. This combined with his profound passion for and knowledge of the world’s diverse environments, wildlife, cultures, and customs have equipped him with many stories to share.

Having lived and led expeditions across the rugged terrains of Africa, the mystical landscapes of Asia, and the vibrant locales of South America, Jim's experiences are as rich and varied as the destinations he explores. His charisma and familiarity with these regions, especially Morocco, make him something of a local celebrity, greeted warmly with endless handshakes and the familiar chants of "Jim!" echoing through the dusty streets of Imlil.

An accomplished high altitude guide, Jim holds a plethora of certifications, including Mountain Leader, Mountain Bike Leader, and Advanced Wilderness First Aid. He is also a certified 4-Star Level 2 Kayak Instructor, Rescue Boat Operator, and skilled bike mechanic. Despite his extensive qualifications, Jim is equally known for his hearty laughter and the occasional 'really bad' joke, bringing lightness and joy to every expedition.

At the heart of Jim's philosophy is a commitment to crafting unique, thrilling travel itineraries that go beyond standard travel packages. He thrives on creating experiences that are not only adventurous but also deeply connective, allowing travelers to explore the soul of each destination. When he's not scaling mountains or charting new, unexplored routes, Jim indulges in his love for sea kayaking, kite surfing, and journeying through the world’s wildest places. Accompanying him on many of his adventures is his beloved dog, Moshi, a steadfast companion in both spirit and adventure. Jim's life is a testament to the belief that travel should be more than just visiting a place; it should be an immersive journey that transforms and inspires.

https://www.adventurousewe.co.uk/

summary
Jim Young, founder and director of Adventurous Ewe, shares his journey from working in the family business to becoming an adventure travel leader. He started with overland trips in Africa and then expanded to South America, the Middle East, and Asia. Jim recounts some of his most challenging adventures, including driving on the Friendship Highway from Kathmandu to Beijing and getting stuck in the Tibetan Plateau. He also discusses the transformative experiences of his guests, who often start out nervous and unsure but grow in confidence and resilience throughout the trip. Jim emphasizes the importance of breaking down challenges into smaller parts and enjoying the journey. Jim Young shares his experiences in the travel industry, including the challenges and rewards of running a travel business. He emphasizes the importance of following your passion and pushing yourself out of your comfort zone. Jim also discusses the impact of travel on mental health and the value of experiencing different cultures. He shares his excitement for new trips and itineraries, including cycling in Rwanda and treks to K2 Basecamp and Norway/Sweden. Overall, Jim's message is to embrace adventure and take the leap to explore the world.

takeaways

• Adventure travel can be a transformative experience, allowing individuals to grow in confidence and resilience.
• Breaking down challenges into smaller parts can help manage feelings of overwhelm

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Area/Topic
Africa, Safaris, Conservation, Guiding

Ant Kaschula
Founder
Private Guided Safaris

I am a born & bred, fourth generation Zimbabwean who's professional guiding career spans more than two decades. I have travelled the length and breadth of the African continent and I have guided or lead safaris or expeditions in twenty-one different African countries.

As the holder of the most highly respected professional guiding qualification in the world coupled with a Masters degree in Ecology and interests ranging from Botany, Bushcrafts & Fly Fishing to Entomology & Recreational Flying, provides me with the background to impart an incredible breadth & depth of knowledge to my guests.

I am an ExCo member of the Zimbabwe Professional Guide's Association and am involved in ensuring the high levels of training and examining of the next generation of professional guides is maintained.

I have a ceaselessly questioning mind and as per one of my mentor’s sayings – have, eyes for seeing and not just looking, which means that very little goes undetected by my radar and no stone is left unturned in my quest to provide my guests with that 'perfect moment’.

In terms of being a specialist, I am most happy whilst leading walking safaris through big game areas and particularly enjoy spending time with elephants on foot.

Having had the privilege of spending much of my adult life exploring the continent’s wildest landscapes, what has become more and more apparent are the threats faced by these rapidly diminishing refuges. Truly passionate and dedicated to the long term safeguarding of these areas, I tend to direct my support, and that of some of my  philanthropic guests, towards protected areas which are managed by organizations that are moving the needle in terms of protecting Africa’s remaining wild spaces.

https://www.privateguidedsafaris.com/

summary
Ant Kaschula, founder of Private Guided Safaris, shares his journey and passion for the African wilderness. He explains why he chose the name Private Guided Safaris instead of using his own name, highlighting the importance of providing a high level of service rather than focusing on an individual. Ant discusses his early experiences in the bush and how they shaped his career as a safari guide. He also talks about the boarding school experience and the strong bonds formed with friends during that time. Ant emphasizes the unique opportunities for walking safaris in Zimbabwe and the intimate and personal experiences they offer. Ant Kaschula emphasizes the importance of having a private guide on a safari trip, as they provide personalized service and create a unique and unforgettable experience. He highlights the value of staying in remote and exclusive locations, where guests can have a more intimate and authentic wildlife encounter. Ant also discusses the benefits of direct communication between the travel agent, the guide, and the clients, as it allows for better coordination and customization of the itinerary. He encourages travelers to be open-minded and trust the expertise of their guide when planning their safari adventure.

takeaways

• Choosing a business name that focuses on providing a high level of service rather than an individual can be beneficial for future growth and scalability.
• Early experiences in the bush can have a profound impact on shaping a career in safari guiding.
• Boarding school can provide unique opportunities for personal growth and strong friendships.
• Zimbabwe offers exceptional oppor

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Area/Topic
Mexico, Latin America, Business

Alex Veka
Founder
Vibe Adventures

Passionate traveler, entrepreneur, and lifelong learner on a mission to make authentic, responsible, and mind-broadening travel accessible to adventurers and curious souls worldwide.

"Originally from Belarus, I've lived, studied, and worked in seven countries before finding my second home in Mexico. With over 50 countries visited and counting, I'm a perpetual learner, speaking several languages and deeply interested in history, geography, and cultures. Armed with a formal Ph.D. and countless lessons from the "university of life," I'm now channeling my passion into running Vibe Adventures, a travel startup offering a simpler way of booking adventure holidays worldwide."

https://vibeadventures.com/

summary
Alex Veka, founder of Vibe Adventures, shares his journey from being a passionate traveler to starting his own travel company. He was inspired by childhood experiences, including participating in programs for Belarusian kids affected by the Chernobyl disaster and traveling to the Netherlands. Alex's love for geography and his desire to explore the world led him to study tourism and eventually work in the travel industry. He met his Mexican wife in China and they embarked on a road trip from Mexico to Argentina, which laid the foundation for Vibe Adventures. Alex's passion for travel and technology drives his goal of making booking experiences easier. Alex Veka discusses his experiences in travel and tourism, from working in hospitality to starting his own adventure travel company, Vibe Adventures. He shares his love for Mexico and the vibrant life it offers. Alex also talks about his mission to simplify and make it easier for people to book adventure holidays worldwide. He highlights the importance of providing authentic local experiences and the need to cater to the changing preferences of millennial and post-millennial travelers. Alex mentions his future plans to add an agent portal to his platform and create a dynamic packaging feature that combines flights with multi-day adventures.

takeaways

• Childhood experiences, such as participating in programs for Chernobyl-affected kids and traveling to the Netherlands, sparked Alex's passion for travel.
• Alex's love for geography and his desire to explore the world led him to study tourism and work in the travel industry.
• Meeting his Mexican wife in China and embarking on a road trip from Mexico to Argentina inspired the creation of Vibe Adventures.
• Alex's goal is to make booking experiences easier through the use of technology. Traveling to different countries and experiencing different cultures can be a dynamic and exciting adventure.
• The hospitality industry can be limiting in terms of career growth and flexibility.
• Starting your own business in the travel industry allows for more freedom and the opportunity to create unique experiences for travelers.
• There is a need for simplifying the booking process for adventure holidays and providing authentic local experiences.
• Millennial and post-millennial travelers prefer independent and customizable travel experiences.
• The future of travel booking involves combining flights with multi-day adventures through dynamic packaging.

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Area/Topic
United Kingdom, Career, Sustainable Tourism, B Corp, Human Connection

Claire Copeman
Co-founder
Adventure Tours UK

Born in the UK, Claire grew up in the rolling countryside of north west England, always outdoors and usually riding horses. After studying Equine Science at university, she set off backpacking around South East Asia and fell in love with travel - real travel. The kind of travel that gets you under the skin of a place, hanging out with the locals and learning as much about yourself as the place you’re in.

Returning to the UK she left the outdoors to pursue a corporate career in marketing. Realising how much she missed the outdoors and riding during this time, this is when Claire discovered a love for mountain biking in the hills of North Wales and how she met her husband.

England is Claire’s place of birth, Wales is her home and Scotland is her favourite escape, from the mountains of the Highlands to the beaches of the Outer Hebrides and everywhere in between. Always looking for adventure and new challenges, Claire has taken part in many long distance events around the UK, including Oxfam’s TrailWalker 100km charity hike in the South Downs, mountain biking across England on the famous Coast to Coast route, and a multi-activity race across across Scotland from Nairn to Glencoe.

Today she lives in the beautiful Welsh hills. Claire has left the corporate world behind, setting up Adventure Tours UK to pursue her love of welcoming like-minded people from around the world to explore the incredible wild spaces of the UK. In line with her own values, Adventure Tours UK has been committed to responsible travel from the outset, becoming the first UK inbound operator to carbon label their tours way back in 2020, and now proud to be a B Corp certified business.

https://adventuretoursuk.com/

Summary

Claire Copeman, co-founder of Adventure Tours UK, shares her journey into adventure tourism and highlights the beauty of Wales as a travel destination. She discusses the misconception about the weather in Wales and emphasizes the stunning landscapes and outdoor activities that make it a great place to visit. Claire also talks about the challenges of promoting Wales as a tourist destination and the need for more exposure and marketing. She shares her passion for creating tailor-made trips and the joy of connecting with people through shared experiences. Adventure Tours UK is a B Corp certified tour operator that focuses on providing genuine and authentic outdoor experiences in the UK. They are committed to working for the benefit of people and the planet, as well as profit. They prioritize connection and believe that shared experiences and connections with others are what make trips memorable. Adventure Tours UK offers a range of activities, including hiking, mountain biking, and trail running, and they cater to both individual travelers and group tours. They also work with trade clients as a destination management company. Their goal is to put the UK on the global adventure travel map.

Takeaways

• Wales is a beautiful travel destination with stunning landscapes and a wide range of outdoor activities.
• The weather in Wales is often misunderstood, but it offers pleasant and enjoyable conditions for outdoor adventures.
• Promoting Wales as a tourist destination is challenging due to limited funding and the dominance of London and other popular locations in the UK.
• Tailor-made trips provide a personalized and unique travel experience, allowing travelers to explore

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Area/Topic
Technology Trends & Tourism

Sebastian Riedel
CEO
Oasis Travel Platform

Sebastian is the CEO of the Oasis Travel Platform, a company dedicated to streamlining travel operations for businesses. From an early age, Sebastian’s life was shaped by his passion for travel, which led him to transition from a successful career in technology to the travel industry. He co-founded Global Basecamps, an international tour operator that offers unique, authentic travel experiences.

Through Oasis, Sebastian combines his expertise in technology with his love for exploration, offering a solution that simplifies travel logistics while enhancing the overall experience for companies. His focus remains on the human connections and meaningful experiences that make travel a powerful force for personal and professional growth.

https://myoasisapp.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, Jason Elkins interviews Sebastian Riedel, CEO of the Oasis Travel Platform. They discuss Sebastian's journey from a childhood filled with travel to his career in the travel industry. The conversation explores the evolution of travel experiences, the importance of human connection, and the challenges of maintaining relationships while pursuing a travel-centric lifestyle. Sebastian shares insights on starting Global Basecamps and the development of Oasis, a platform designed to streamline travel operations for companies. The episode emphasizes the significance of creating meaningful travel experiences and the impact of technology on the travel industry.

takeaways

• Travel has been a significant part of Sebastian's life since childhood.
• Sebastian transitioned from a tech-heavy career to the travel industry.
• The excitement of travel has changed with technology.
• Human connection is a vital aspect of travel experiences.
• Traveling is about creating memories rather than accumulating things.
• The challenges of a travel lifestyle can impact personal relationships.
• Finding a travel partner who shares your wanderlust is crucial.
• Global Basecamps was founded to provide unique travel experiences.
• Oasis was developed to streamline travel operations for companies.
• The importance of adapting to changes in the travel industry.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide, Expedition Cruises, Adventure Tourism Industry, Business

Todd Smith
Founder & President
AdventureSmith Explorations

Inspired by his grandfather to camp and travel the world, Todd’s wanderlust started early. A cancer diagnosis and subsequent treatment changed his outlook on life, instilling at an early age a precious perspective to live life to the fullest. Launching his career as a naturalist guide in Alaska and Baja California, Todd gained firsthand experience operating expedition cruises and learned what it takes to exceed traveler expectations. He was instrumental in pioneering early adventure cruises with Zodiacs, kayaks and professional expedition leaders. Connecting travelers to the wilderness and conservation became his lifelong passion and the foundation of his successful adventure travel company, AdventureSmith Explorations, established in 2003.

Todd has been named a Top Travel Specialist on Condé Nast Traveler’s annual Top Travel Specialists List 11 times, and has been featured on television shows such as Lonely Planet and Jack Hanna’s Animal Adventures. He’s an elected board member of IGTOA (International Galapagos Tour Operators Association) and an advocate for sustainable travel initiatives worldwide.

https://adventuresmithexplorations.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Todd Smith, founder and president of Adventure Smith Explorations. Todd shares his journey from the ski industry to adventure travel, discussing the evolution of expedition cruising and the importance of small ship experiences. The conversation delves into the changing dynamics of the cruise industry, personal influences that shaped Todd's career, and the significance of relationships in the travel business. They also explore current trends in expedition cruising, including the appeal of the Arctic and Northern Lights, and the benefits of working with Adventure Smith for planning travel adventures.

takeaways

• Todd's journey into adventure travel began after college in the ski industry.
• The evolution of expedition cruising has created a niche market for small ship experiences.
• Small ships allow for deeper exploration of destinations compared to large cruise ships.
• Relationships with clients, staff, and partners are crucial for success in the travel industry.
• The pandemic taught the importance of maintaining strong relationships in business.
• Diversification in travel offerings can help mitigate risks associated with regional conflicts.
• The Arctic and Northern Lights are becoming increasingly popular travel destinations.
• New luxury expedition ships are changing the landscape of adventure travel.
• Adventure Smith offers personalized service without additional costs compared to booking directly.
• The auroral cycle's peak presents unique opportunities for travelers to experience the Northern Lights.

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Area/Topic
West Africa, Business, Culture, Food, Scooter Trips

Phil Paoletta
Co-owner
Scoot West Africa

Formerly a middle school teacher in Washington, DC, Phil Paoletta is now a semi-nomad based in West Africa.

An obsession with highlife music originally drew him to Ghana in 2005. Once he arrived there, he found other things — groundnut stew, the Twi language, mapouka (both the dance and the liqueur), orange-headed lizards — that he also liked. In 2010, he quit his job to travel back to West Africa. He figured he had enough money for a 6-month trip. He didn’t know it at the time, but that trip would never actually end.

Fourteen years later, Phil finds himself based in Senegal, leading scooter trips around the region with Scoot West Africa, and making frequent stops in Bamako, Mali, where he is part owner of the Sleeping Camel hotel and restaurant. Since 2016, he has been collaborating with former tourist guides in Timbuktu on Postcards from Timbuktu, an e-commerce project that supports the guides and their families following the collapse of Mali’s tourism sector.

When he is not moving around, he enjoys relaxing on the beaches of Senegal’s Petite-Cote with his wife and two kids.

https://scootwestafrica.com/

summary
In this episode, Jason Elkins interviews Phil Paoletta, co-owner of Scoot West Africa, who shares his journey from a transformative concert experience to living in West Africa since 2010. Phil discusses the cultural richness of the region, the importance of music and food in social interactions, and the unique travel experiences offered by his company. He emphasizes the need for open-mindedness in travel and encourages listeners to explore West Africa despite common misconceptions. Phil also shares insights on starting a business in a challenging environment and the rewarding connections made through travel.

takeaways

• Phil has been based in West Africa since 2010.
• A concert sparked Phil's interest in Afrobeat music.
• Traveling in West Africa offers immersive experiences.
• Food is a significant part of social interactions in West Africa.
• Phil started Scoot West Africa in 2017.
• Clients should be open to spontaneous experiences.
• West Africa is an under-visited region for tourism.
• Cultural connections are vital in travel.
• Phil emphasizes the importance of community in West African life.
• Traveling is about discovering places on their own terms.

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Area/Topic
Colombia, Incentive Travel

Bruce McLean
Founder
BnB Colombia Tours

I’m a Kiwi who found a home in the heart of the Colombian Coffee Zone after falling in love with this incredible country (and a girl) back in 2009. Now settled in a small town here, I’ve had the adventure of traveling across Colombia, discovering its breathtaking diversity, and connecting with amazing people. It’s these experiences that inspired me to start BnB Colombia Tours, where I get to share my love for this vibrant country by creating unforgettable travel experiences.

Building on the success of BnB, I launched Incentive Travel Colombia to focus on the amazing world of MICE travel. We design flexible, personalized experiences that bring teams together in ways that not only inspire but leave a lasting positive impact on company culture.

https://bnbcolombia.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Bruce McLean, founder of B&B Colombia Tours. Bruce shares his journey from New Zealand to Colombia, detailing his experiences in hospitality and tourism. The conversation explores the beauty and challenges of traveling in Colombia, including safety concerns, cultural insights, and the importance of understanding local customs. Bruce emphasizes the friendly nature of Colombians and the diverse experiences the country offers. He also discusses his business, which provides customized travel packages for visitors to Colombia, ensuring they have safe and memorable experiences.

takeaways

• Bruce McLean is a Kiwi who fell in love with Colombia during a visit in 2009.
• His background in hospitality has greatly influenced his approach to tourism.
• Colombia is known for its friendly and helpful people, especially outside of Bogota.
• Travelers should be aware of safety concerns and avoid certain areas.
• Understanding local culture and customs enhances the travel experience.
• B&B Colombia Tours offers customized travel packages for various types of travelers.
• The importance of speaking Spanish when traveling in Colombia is emphasized.
• Colombia has a rich diversity of experiences, from nature to history.
• Traveling in Colombia requires patience and acceptance of a slower pace.
• Bruce's goal is to share the beauty of Colombia with the world.

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Area/Topic
Women's Group & Independent Travel

Doni Belau
Founder & CEO
Girls' Guide to the World

Doni Belau founded the women-only tour company Girls’ Guide to the World in 2009. With a mission to empower women of all ages to explore the world, Girls’ Guide to the World now offers 60 tours to 40 countries.

As an intrepid traveler who has explored over 80 countries, Doni has used her destination knowledge to curate a diverse portfolio of trips catering to a wide range of interests, from cultural immersion and culinary tours to active adventures and wellness retreats. Each itinerary is thoughtfully crafted to spark curiosity, foster authentic connection, and create lasting memories.

Doni's diverse experiences, from television production to humanitarian work in South Africa, have fueled her passion for creating transformative journeys that blend personal growth with the joy of exploration.

With over 15 years of experience in the travel industry, Doni’s in-depth understanding of destinations, travel trends, and evolving consumer desires ensures that each tour offered prioritizes connection, personal growth, and unforgettable experiences.     

When not leading trips, she divides her time between France, New Orleans, and a sailboat named Relish – a testament to her adventurous spirit.

https://www.girlsguidetotheworld.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Doni Belau, founder of Girls' Guide to the World, about her journey from the non-profit sector to creating a unique travel experience for women. Doni shares her insights on empowering women through travel, the importance of taking action, and the dynamics of women-only tours. The conversation also addresses common concerns women have about traveling solo, emphasizing the importance of community and connection in enhancing the travel experience.

takeaways

• Doni Belau transitioned from a non-profit career to founding Girls' Guide to the World.
• The business started as a passion project without a formal business plan.
• Empowering women through travel is a core mission of the organization.
• Women over 45 represent a significant portion of solo travelers.
• Taking action is crucial for pursuing dreams and starting a business.
• Traveling in small groups fosters bonding and connection among participants.
• Safety is a primary concern for women traveling alone, which is addressed through group travel.
• The experience of traveling can be life-extending and rejuvenating.
• Community and support are essential for women to feel comfortable traveling.
• Travel is not a luxury but a necessary investment in one's well-being.

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Area/Topic
Colombian Amazon, Indigenous Communities, Ecotourism

Maria Samper
Co-Owner
Calanoa Amazonas

Maria is a global humanitarian, artist, and singer who has lived in 14 countries, embracing the diversity of cultures and experiences. Maria also facilitates healing workshops, inspired by deep roots in the Amazon, channeling the wisdom and magic from her early years spent with indigenous communities and shamans. Passionate about reconnecting people with their pure human essence, Maria is deeply involved in the Calanoa Project, her family's initiative that invites visitors to explore their true nature in harmony with the natural world. Her life's work is a fusion of art, spirit, and the beauty of human connection.

https://www.calanoaamazonas.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Maria Samper, co-owner of Calanoa Amazonas, about her journey, the importance of responsible tourism, and the deep connection between the Amazon rainforest and the indigenous communities. Maria shares insights into her family's commitment to environmentalism, the cultural exchanges facilitated by Calanoa, and the transformative power of travel. The conversation highlights the significance of understanding local perspectives and the impact of tourism on communities and ecosystems.

takeaways

• Calanoa Amazonas is more than a lodge; it's a project of love.
• Maria's upbringing in Colombia shaped her connection to nature.
• Responsible tourism can provide economic benefits to local communities.
• Cultural exchange is vital for preserving ancestral traditions.
• The Amazon rainforest is a unique and generous ecosystem.
• Traveling helps individuals discover themselves and their values.
• Community involvement is essential for sustainable tourism.
• Maria's family has dedicated 40 years to environmental education.
• The importance of listening to local voices in tourism.
• Traveling with purpose can lead to meaningful experiences.

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Area/Topic
Worldwide Travel, Travel Writing, Photography, Podcasting

Gary Arndt
Podcaster
Everything Everywhere Daily

Gary Arndt is the host of Everything Everywhere Daily.

Before launching Everything Everywhere Daily in July 2020, he spent the previous 13 years traveling around the world. His travels have taken him to over 200 countries/territories, and all 50 US states….twice!

His blog Everything Everywhere was named one of the Top 25 Blogs in the world by Time Magazine. He has also appeared in USA Today, the New York Times, the BBC, and National Geographic.

He is also one of the world’s most accomplished travel photographers. He was named Travel Photographer of the Year in 2014 by the Society of American Travel Writers and in 2013 & 2015 by the North American Travel Journalists Association. He is also a 3-time Lowell Thomas Award winner, which is considered to be the Pulitzer Prize for Travel Journalism.

Gary currently hosts and produces the “Everything Everywhere Daily” podcast. It features stories of people, places, and things covering a wide variety of topics, including history, science, and geography.

The podcast gets over one million monthly downloads and has accrued over 20,000,000 downloads since 2020.

https://everything-everywhere.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins interviews Gary Arndt, a seasoned podcaster and extreme world traveler. They discuss Gary's journey from a childhood influenced by National Geographic to becoming a digital nomad and travel blogger. The conversation explores the impact of social media on travel trends, the psychology behind wanderlust, and the challenges of full-time travel, including burnout. Gary shares insights on the power of podcasting, the realities of starting a podcast, and offers advice for aspiring travelers. The episode concludes with reflections on the importance of enjoying the journey and the evolving nature of travel in a post-pandemic world.

takeaways

• Gary's childhood was influenced by National Geographic, sparking his love for travel.
• He sold his home to travel around the world, embracing a digital nomad lifestyle.
• Social media has significantly impacted travel trends, often leading to overtourism.
• Travel is not just a vacation; it's a lifestyle choice that requires commitment.
• Podcasting allows for deeper connections with audiences compared to traditional media.
• Burnout is a real challenge for full-time travelers, as it's not always a vacation.
• Gary emphasizes the importance of enjoying the day-to-day grind of podcasting.
• He encourages aspiring travelers to take at least one extended trip in their lives.
• The average podcast listener spends significantly more time engaged than website visitors.
• Travel can be more affordable when you eliminate the costs of maintaining a home.

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Area/Topic
Africa, Safaris

Sara Kearns
Owner
Travels with Sara

I am a dedicated passionate seller of Africa.  My highly regarded private safaris are customized, tailored to the client.  I travel with them to give the very best safari experience.  Always looking for new adventures in the splendor of Africa.  I have also published a very successful guide book "Ultimate Sourcebook East Africa" and a memoir about me and my life.

https://sarassignaturesafaris.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Sara Kearns, a seasoned travel expert and owner of Travels with Sara. They discuss Sara's journey into the world of travel, her early influences, and her extensive experiences in Africa. The conversation delves into the importance of the journey over the destination, the misconceptions surrounding travel in Africa, and the joy of sharing travel experiences with family and friends. Sara shares insights on customizing travel experiences for clients and addresses common safety concerns about traveling in Africa. The episode is filled with personal anecdotes, travel tips, and a deep appreciation for the beauty of exploration.

takeaways

• Travel is about the journey, not just the destination.
• Early influences shape our passions and careers.
• Personal experiences in travel lead to growth and understanding.
• Africa offers diverse travel experiences and adventures.
• Safety concerns about Africa are often based on misconceptions.
• Traveling with family can create lasting memories.
• Customizing travel experiences enhances enjoyment and connection.
• The importance of connecting with locals while traveling.
• Traveling can be a transformative experience for individuals.
• Adventure travel can be tailored to individual preferences.

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Area/Topic
Exploration, Whales, Indigenous Communities

James Michael Dorsey
Author & Explorer

James Michael Dorsey is an award-winning author, explorer, and lecturer who has spent three decades researching remote tribal cultures in fifty-nine countries. His personal narratives give a small voice to those who otherwise would vanish from the earth with few people ever knowing they existed. His separate passion is working as a cetacean naturalist on whale boats in California and Mexico, a parallel career he has pursued for three decades. These combined journeys have resulted in over 800 published essays and articles and four books.

He returns annually to lecture about gray whales in the sanctuary lagoon of San Ignacio in Baja, Mexico, where he was the resident naturalist for twenty-two seasons. His latest book “The Lagoon,”is a definitive study of gray whales and the indigenous peoples of Baja where he was resident naturalist for 22 years.

He is a former contributing editor at Transitions Abroad and has written for United Airlines, The Christian Science Monitor, Lonely Planet, Perceptive Travel, California Literary Review, Colliers, Los Angeles Times, BBC Wildlife, BBC Travel, Geo Ex, Wanderlust, and Natural History, plus several African magazines.

He is a member of the American Cetacean Society, a fellow of the Explorer’s Club, and member emeritus of the Adventurer’s Club.

https://www.jamesmichaeldorsey.com/

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, Jason Elkins interviews renowned explorer and author James Michael Dorsey. They discuss Dorsey's journey from a mail carrier to an adventure traveler, his experiences with indigenous cultures, and the unique relationship between humans and whales in Baja. Dorsey shares captivating stories from his travels, including a harrowing encounter with a baboon in Tanzania and the challenges of leading group tours. The conversation also touches on the impact of tourism on indigenous communities and the importance of cultural preservation.

takeaways

• James Dorsey's journey into exploration began with a kayaking trip in British Columbia.
• Dorsey has spent decades documenting vanishing tribal cultures in Africa and Asia.
• The connection between whales and indigenous cultures is profound and intertwined.
• Traveling with a partner can enhance the adventure experience, but it also presents challenges.
• Dorsey's experiences in Ethiopia included a dangerous volcano expedition that resulted in a broken leg.
• Whale watching in Baja is unique because the whales actively seek human contact.
• The ethics of whale watching are complex, with differing opinions on human interaction with wildlife.
• Dorsey leads tours to Baja, but prefers to engage with participants rather than manage logistics.
• Cultural immersion is key to understanding and respecting indigenous societies.
• Dorsey is concerned about the over-reliance of indigenous communities on tourism for survival.

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Erin Carey
Director
Roam Generation

Erin Carey is the founder of Roam Generation, a PR agency dedicated to helping brands and experts in the travel, adventure, and lifestyle sectors grow. Roam Generation was originally founded on a yacht as Erin and her family sailed around the world. Despite having no prior sailing experience, Erin and her husband and three boys pursued their dream of leaving the rat race, bought a yacht on the other side of the globe, and crossed the Atlantic Ocean just 18 months later.

With her adventurous spirit, lived experience, and sheer determination, Erin and her team share their clients' stories with media outlets in both Australia and the US. They boost brand awareness, elevate credibility, and generate a buzz, transforming brands from unseen to unstoppable through a fresh approach to traditional PR. Roam Generation’s mission is to share the gift of travel and adventure with as many people as possible because, for Erin and her team, travel has been life-changing.

summary
In this episode, Erin Carey shares her incredible journey from a suburban life in Australia to sailing around the world with her family. She discusses the pivotal moment that inspired their adventure, the challenges they faced while preparing for and living on a boat, and the lessons learned along the way. After returning to land, Erin reflects on the importance of community, the power of storytelling through PR, and how she built her own PR agency. The conversation emphasizes the significance of identity, taking action, and the belief that anyone can achieve their dreams with determination and the right mindset.

takeaways

• The decision to sail was inspired by a documentary.
• Both Erin and her husband were fully committed to the adventure.
• Preparation for sailing took over two years.
• Life on the boat was filled with challenges and learning experiences.
• Returning to land was an adjustment for the family.
• Community and connection are vital for travelers.
• PR is about sharing stories to grow brands.
• Building a PR agency was a journey of self-discovery.
• Everyone has a story worth sharing.
• Taking action and setting a date can lead to achieving dreams.

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Jean Zunkel
President & Co Owner
BJ Adventures, Inc.

At the age of 13, I knew that I wanted to travel the world. I designed my life to make that possible. I was in the textile world for 45 years, married to an International Banker and then started a travel business. I have been to over 195 countries and have new ones on the agenda for every year going forward. I love art, food, great wine (first choice is South African), and meeting people all over the world. My daughter and her family come first in my life. She is now my business partner and we work really well together. At the age of 79 I bought a small heritage cottage in a village in South Africa and love spending time there. The balance is spent in Lamy, New Mexico or traveling. I write over 1,000 postcards each year to stay in touch with friends and people I have met all over the world.

summary
In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Jean Zunkel, president and co-owner of BJ Adventures. Jean shares her inspiring journey from a small town in the South to becoming a successful travel entrepreneur. She discusses her early aspirations to travel, the evolution of her career from fashion merchandising to travel, and the challenges and joys of leading group trips. Jean emphasizes the importance of personal connections in travel, the role of her daughter Adina in the business, and the significance of creating memorable experiences for travelers. The conversation also touches on the necessity of travel insurance and the future of the travel industry.

takeaways

• Jean knew at 13 that she wanted to escape her small town.
• Traveling has been a lifelong passion for Jean, leading her to 197 countries.
• Her career in fashion merchandising opened doors to travel opportunities.
• BJ Adventures was born from a passion for travel and adventure.
• Mother-daughter bonding is a key aspect of their safari experiences.
• Reading the room is crucial for leading successful group trips.
• Personal connections enhance the travel experience for clients.
• Adina's analytical skills complement Jean's adventurous spirit in the business.
• Surprises in itineraries create memorable travel experiences.
• Travel insurance is essential for peace of mind during trips.

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Jorge Salas
CEO and Founder
New Paths Expeditions

Jorge Salas, the visionary CEO and founder of USA based New Paths Expeditions, is guiding the celebrated tour operator into its milestone 10th anniversary in 2024. With a lifelong passion for wildlife and exploration, Jorge has extensive experience in the travel industry, having led expeditions across South and Central America, Africa, Asia, Oceania, and the polar regions. He has served on the board of leading U.S. travel brands, including International Expeditions as Product Developer, Operations Director, Crisis Handler, Director of Safety, and Senior Expedition Leader, while creating personalized journeys for clients worldwide. His commitment to conservation and community development shines through his work with organizations in the Peruvian Amazon. Jorge’s expertise in travel logistics and safety, combined with his passion for transformative experiences, has established New Paths Expeditions as a premier provider of immersive journeys to over 65 exotic destinations.

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In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, Jason Elkins speaks with Jorge Salas, the CEO and founder of New Paths Expeditions. Jorge shares his journey from a young boy inspired by his grandfather's National Geographic collection to becoming a leader in the adventure travel industry. He discusses the importance of connection in travel, the shift towards private trips post-pandemic, and the unique cultural experiences offered in destinations like Papua New Guinea. Jorge emphasizes the value of small group travel and the careful curation of trips to provide enriching experiences. He also shares exciting plans for family-oriented travel experiences with his daughter, Josefina, as they aim to create memorable adventures for families.

takeaways

• Jorge's passion for travel began at a young age, inspired by his grandfather's National Geographic collection.
• He has over 32 years of experience in the travel industry, starting as a guide in Chile.
• New Paths Expeditions focuses on small group travel to remote destinations.
• The pandemic has shifted traveler preferences towards private trips and family experiences.
• Cultural immersion is a key aspect of Jorge's travel philosophy.
• Papua New Guinea is highlighted as a unique and fascinating travel destination.
• Travel is about connection and sharing experiences with others.
• Jorge emphasizes the importance of expert guides in enhancing travel experiences.
• The company has grown to offer 58 destinations over 10 years.
• Future plans include family trips tailored for children, enhancing the travel experience for families.

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Pilar Osorio
Communications Advisor
Ancestral Travel Colombia

As a Communication Advisor, I channel my passion for storytelling into sustainable tourism and purpose-driven projects, fostering experiences that respect both people and the planet. I am also a literature professor with a PhD in Literature and Film, for whom literature has always been a way of journeying—a portal to new worlds, emotions, and perspectives.

For me, travel is about connecting with the emotions, people and stories that shape our world. My consulting work allows me to merge my passions for justice, nature, and storytelling, creating experiences that emphasize harmony and respect. I find great joy in connecting my storytelling expertise with communication for business, helping to develop purpose-driven projects that make a meaningful impact. I am committed to living in balance with the world, honoring the land, its people, and the powerful narratives we share.

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In this episode of the Big World Made Small podcast, host Jason Elkins speaks with Pilar Osorio, a communications advisor for Ancestral, about her journey through travel, literature, and the importance of effective communication in tourism. Pilar shares her early experiences traveling as a child, the influence of literature on her travels, and how she now helps travel companies communicate their unique stories and values. The conversation delves into cultural differences, the significance of authenticity, and the challenges of cross-cultural communication in the tourism industry. Pilar emphasizes the power of storytelling and the need for businesses to connect with their audiences through genuine narratives.

takeaways

• Pilar's love for travel began in childhood due to her father's diplomatic career.
• Literature has a profound impact on Pilar's travel experiences and connections.
• Cultural differences significantly affect communication in tourism.
• Authenticity is crucial for travel companies to connect with clients.
• Effective communication can empower businesses and enhance their impact.
• Pilar emphasizes the importance of storytelling in conveying a company's values.
• Egos can be a challenge in both small and large businesses.
• Language plays a vital role in tourism and client interactions.
• Pilar's work focuses on helping small businesses communicate effectively.
• Travel and literature share a deep connection that enriches experiences.

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